I Gave My BMW M Handling With This!
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- Опубліковано 4 гру 2020
- In this video I show you how to upgrade your E9X or E8X BMW with M3 control arms.
This is only for RWD models. I show you the kit and show you how to install it.
Your car will have a sportier ride and have more on center steering feel and more precise handling.
I install this kid on my E90 335i but this kit fits all RWD E90s. If you want to give your car more of an M car feel this kit is a nice upgrade.
It costs less then piecing together the original control arm bushings for your car so if you have over 100K miles this would be a nice upgrade just for maintenance.
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Teach your kids this and they will never have money for drugs.
Eh not true. I'm do both. Although it's just weed
@@JackRR15 Buy more car stuff.........there, problem solved 😉
@@JackRR15 same
@@dennisanglin1116 Ayyy . Holy shit 2 years ago I made that comment.... time flies.
@@JackRR15 Did you quit smoking weed tho?
Again my friend. The e90 series content is world beating. Hat's off to you
Thank you!
No cap
What a coincidence! I also just did this upgrade along with the rear control arms as well and m3 subframe bushings. After the alignment it’s crazy how glued to the road the car feels. Ride isn’t harsh at all in fact even better than before since the stock stuff was all worn out. Turn in and handling has gotten siginificantly better. And the car feels planted even switching lanes at highway speeds. If your in doubt of this upgrade don’t be! It’s worth it!
Hey Great video!! This is the kit I JUST bought and was preparing to do over the Christmas break. I think I'll post mine once I get done too. Great work and you should have 100K subs by now with the quality of workmanship in just the videos. The info quality you provide, you should have 1M subs! Keep up the great work.
I am watching this with my set of front and rear trw arms sitting next to me in their boxes.... This video couldn't be any more well timed!!! So stoked to get mine on!!
For future reference I'd like to encourage a road test after you do such phenomenal work and detail thank you very much
Thanks for the feedback.
@@VehicularDIY hey is there any disadvantage to spraying my intercooler in a different color than it originally came in
@@lukelmiller2489 I don't think so people paint it I paint mine with vrsf logo
@@lukelmiller2489 no lol.
@@lukelmiller2489 might car mods done a whole video on how painting affects the cooling of an intercooler, u should check it out
Seriously, thank you for making these videos. SO much help.
Here I am still in the process of reassembling my subframe after replacing the turbos (and assorted related maintenance) on my '09 E82 - with my struts and hubs sitting on my garage floor here. I was preparing to clean-up and reuse the original factory arms this weekend... until I saw this video! I actually was holding off on upgrading to M3 arms next year, but when I saw the price for these TRWs, and the fact that they are the OE manufacturer - well damn, it made too much sense to grab a set now. Besides it would probably have taken me a sh*tload more time to clean the crud off the originals than it would to just swap them out. 😉 I got to say once again, the ideas, information and content you present here are excellent. Much appreciated!
I'm gonna do this to mine. Top quality video. The hits just keep on coming.
I need to tell you, I appreciate all of your videos. Without your video series going over your serpentine belt explosion and aftermath, I would never have taken this task on myself. I just finished the task on a 2006 530XI. Even though you had an N54, and I have an N52, your help proved to me - priceless. I also had the extra complexity of having the differential and drive shafts going through the oil pan. I think it is your camera quality and the soothing tone of your voice throughout that set me at ease before starting the task.
Again, I say thank you for your videos. Please keep making them.
so theres a set for E60/61 aswell?
We fitted these to our E82 135i and also fitted the rear TRW M upgrade and it all makes a MASSIVE difference.
You have the best UA-cam Channel! I have a 2011 Bmw 328i Xdrive 4dr sedan! If I have any questions I hope to hear from you! You give so much knowledge out for free & that’s the best part about it!
Good stuff, another project to add on my list. Thanks!
You certainly know your BMW`s.......Well Done, Keep up the Great reviews ! !
Was waiting for you to do a DIY on this! Thank you!
Very cool vid, cheers, was hoping you'd complete the video with a test drive and your thoughts on the difference if there was any.
I bent my stock control arm from race track so i decided to upgrade it to this and let me tell you guys this will change your car handling so much that it felt like i am driving a different car, the steering is so much better than before, its really ideal for windy road like mountain pass or complex race track.
If u guys have not upgrade yet to this control arm i would highly recommend it specially doing a high speed corner.
You're killing my bank account! :)
wish I'd seen this in the summer. Ill have to do this next year for track days.
Hi.
Thanks for your efforts. This is very helpful for me and I will follow you further. I have a Z4 E89 with N54 engine. Most of your mods apply for me as well. Thanks
Great find! Thanks for bringing this up. I would like you to make a follow up review of how the car feels after the upgrade. I am thinking that I'll have to do my suspension some time down the road...but would be mightful not to add more harshness to the ride...as the roads in my region are not the best :)
Yeah I'll definitely give you guys my driving impressions once I get it aligned.
I changed front and rear arms to M3 and Dinan suspension parts including all subframe bushings a few years back and it does make a difference. Less boaty.Currently running Koni Active Shocks with Eibach ProKit Springs... Perfect balance.
sounds awesome mate
Vehicular DIY video series on BMW convinced me after 3-4 years of constipating getting myself an N54 powered 335i. Most others I watched before finding this channel were just kids only going fast. Once I started shopping I went through videos showing his work with technical explanation and in depth review of each maintenance fix or upgrade, I know now I have good references to use as guides as I spend the next year going through my car. Three weeks into ownership and only driven the new ride once, then tore into cooling system rebuild. Was going to be my first task, but a pinhole leak appeared during delivery. But will be wrapped up tomorrow. Now finish buying parts to redo the entire turbo system. Bought a second set of factory turbos, Turbo Lab rebuild kits and waste gate kits. New outlets and relocate inlets from ARM Motorsports. Will finish buying the rest while I rebuild the turbo assemblies and plan a time to test it down, clean the engine compartment completely before installing. Hopefully within a year or so I will have a like new 2009. My only worry is maybe I shouldn't have gotten the Xdrive version.
Thank you including the torque specs in you videos! So many forget that.
You have probably saved me 10k In labor following your channel.
You really know your shit. I Hope my subscription helps, and UA-cam is taking care of you 👍🏼
So crazy how a part that I need to replace on my e90, you always come out with a video for it the next day lmao
Best upgrade I've done on my E82..car is on rails through corners...so solid and positive.
Looking forward for you to get that alignment done and make the update video!
I have the same TRW kit coming in from FCPEuro, can't wait to put them on!
Man what a great channel for E90s
I literally just did this the other day but with upgraded bushings. Definitely get a sway bar w/black powerflex bushings ties EVERYTHING together
did you get the bushings on ECS?
Better to do both ends and rear subframe bushings and both anti-sway bars at once.
@@machtschnell7452 people say you shouldn't touch rear subframe at all until you're about to install a proper LSD. Front's okay.
great video . Thanks!
You could also pre-align the toe, theres some predetermined turns on the tie rods to make the toe as before so you can dry safely until a real alignment. On E90post forum I think. Dont remember but worked fine on my car after this upgrade 👍
3.5 turns in I think
I have also upgraded to these arms and got 1.9 degree front camber with the strut tower placement pins removed.
On xi you can modify the M3 tension strut bushings to fit into your stock arms. Its cheaper than both buying new arms or new oem bushings
This would be a nice upgrade with the kw suspension v1 i got. Already have powerflex bushings in the rear. (I will eventually also do subframe). I had some wheel hop issues which is kind of solved for now.
After that im going to do the shifter, mine has become worn out. Need to change the oil in the transmission to, doing the diff also
Another great video
Great video thank you!
Watching all your videos and paying a shop to do the work ;)
I just received mine for my 2009 335I coupe...Will installing them during the week.
Did they fit
I did this upgrade so worth every penny
I did the upgrade this year, set to -1° of camber.
245 tires on a square setup, handling is fantastic
I'm stock at -1.1 lol
The real difference is the rear axle...
You could easily go 255 all around
Having an impact would of helped me so much. I just finished doing this 3 days ago.
FYI, the ball joints on the M3 control arms are not "more robust", in fact they are identical to the standard 3-series control arm ball joints. I just did this conversion on my 330i, thanks to this video.
This set up with bilstein OE 4 shocks n struts. And OE spring coils. Will work with out any suffering to ride quality. Which should be done first control arms or shocks n struts.
I did front and rear, with rogue engineering rear tie arms. Very great investment
a little tight?.. dang I had to get diesel on those lower control arms.. Thanks for tips.. most appreciated.
Great tutorial. I was debating between this and SPL and eded up on the ladder, but both are great options.
I did this on my E90 335i and it made such a huge difference. The steering is more precise and turn in is faster and funny enough throttle response is faster too which i think it because my original bushings were toast and had so much play.
Yeah I didn't realize how bad mine were until I removed them. I'm expecting a huge difference. I'll give my driving impressions after I get it aligned.
@@VehicularDIY yea the difference was night and day and my friend who also has an E90 was just as surprised lol definitely needs an alignment after though it was undrivable lmao.
@@OTechnology By undrivable, do you mean it had like excessive play when turning? I just finished this job and need to get it aligned badly. After I turn my wheels 20° or so, I have to make I have two hands on the wheel, because the car feels like it wants to keep pulling to that side
ANOTHER ONE!. dude you make your car even more reliable. What's next?
Awesome thank you!!!!!
Do the rear subframe bushings too. I went with the bimmerworld solid aluminium, one of the best upgrades on these cars. Keep up the good work 👏👏
I did the whiteline racing bushings for the body/chassis on my 135 a couple year ago. They are rubber but feel as if they are solid. In my opinion its way to stiff now lol, feels like a stiff box. But thats ok because... racecar!
@@Spirited_Driver I love mine, I also use the car for road course racing but I still have full interior. It makes the car more predictable/safe and easier to correct when losing control.
This man should have over a million subs.
He’d have more views & subs if he actually titled his vids to match the content rather than the generic titles like “This one thing transformed my BMW!”
Very few of his videos come up in searches because of it. As an example, search “E90 control arm replacement” or “E90 upgraded control arm” or even any combination of words for what is going on in this video and it doesn’t even enter the list despite it being so superb.
@Purple Troll in my opinion talking about 335i he is the best like #1 nobody creates a better content than him
Nicee cant wait to receive the kit, what is the right torque?
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! I was just wondering which bushings to replace on my 135, this is amazing. Too bad i just got an alignment last week
Generally you have 30 days to get it realigned for free... maybe?
@@Objectional_Opinion good to know
if u need much more camper at the front, buy M3 e36 3.2
suspension strut top mount and install it sideways :)
Nice. Great work. Respect. Hey if anyone knows any lmk please. I'm having a hard time getting my secondary air to get ready on my BMW drive cycle so I can go get this smog emissions test finished and passed. Any info on WTH I can do to get the secondary air ready is appreciated. Thanks
I gotta ask, what do you do for a living? Or maybe I should ask, what did you do for a living before this channel? I've been watching your vids a lot, deciding if I want to buy an N54 project car and you have given me a lot of confidence to take the plunge. Thanks for taking all of the extra time/thought to do the videos for the rest of us.
Thanks! I work on the IT power industry.
Remove the pins from the strut tops, to give more neg camber
E9x also? Thought that was just an e46 thing
Got this done over the summer front and rear control arms. Ohlins coilovers and ground control camber plates. The difference is night and day. Still a bit splashy in the rear, next upgrade will probably be swaybars.
Big sway bar in the rear will make the rear more drift friendly. If you don't want it to feel so lose try aluminum rear subframe bushings👍🏽
@@iG4MERs I was thinking about the swaybars. The aluminum subframe bushing are new to me. A gentleman had mentioned aluminum subframe inserts helped too. Either way you have to drop the sub, not completely, to even get the swaybar in and out.
Did you get Swift springs also? Do you recall your spring rates and damper settings?
@@machtschnell7452 I have no idea that information. I got the kit from modbargins if that helps any.
Do a video on the rear end m3 arms
continuously video on N54..we still need you...thanks and apprecite
0:30 will it definetly fit the 1 series e87 m47? I checked on the site and it doesn't have that model on the list. Great vid!!
when are you going to do a phoenix intake and PI vid install and tuning i am doing the install right now on my 335i
Great video stumbled onto your channel. Would you recommend this upgrade on a 428i convertible? Of course with f series parts. I say this cause it's a convertible not sure if it would.d be optimal thanks
Thanks, if they offer a similar upgrade package for the f series cars and you want a little more on center feel and immediate turn in it could be a good option. You would need an alignment after and you would go through tires a little quicker after the upgrade.
Would have liked to see the stance after install.
Great video! What it’s the song at the very end?
Be careful. My lower front control arms gave me bump steer. Had to buy original and replace those, because it was very dangerous with bump steer. For example my car steering into opposite side traffic when running over manhole covers that were slightly dipped.
All the other arms are changed though except two in the back. Ok mine is an E91, but its very similar to an E90 in a lot of ways.
Take care, and thanks for awesome videos!
Thanks, are you running stock suspension?
It meants your alignment isnt correct. happened first time in installed them, then i adjused the toe and it was fine. nothing wrong with m3 control arm upgrade :)
Oh damn, I want this..
Hi and thanks for the video. I was just starting to look into this as I'm doing a suspension refresh.
Can you post a part number for the headlights sensor arm? I can buy the arms cheaper separately and I can't find the xenon arm:(
You can also try upper camber plates for more camber and for the rear, whiteline subframe bushing inserts. There's a bloke in England on the forums names Ian(THETYRANT) that manufacturers the camber plates.
Sure this link has the arm and the two nuts you would need. The nuts are designed to not vibrate loose. bit.ly/2L4QQn0
I know you say pretty much all E8x and E9X models buy I wanna double check, will it fit an E88 ? Mine it's 2008 135i convertible, I hit a bump yesterday and my lower control arm bend so I'm planing in do this upgrade right now
Did you just remove the headlight level sensor? If I understood that correctly, how does that impact your headlights when driving up or down the hill?
dont forget to do the m3 rear upgrade as well :)
Yeah I'm afraid to go back there and see how worn everything probably is lol.
@@VehicularDIY I second the motion to see a future video on upgrading the rears. I already have TRW M3 rear arms on my wishlist for next year...
Would these parts be an upgrade, to my 2011 335IS?
I also didn't see you how you hooked up the headlight bracket
Just curious if you replaced the control arm bolts and nuts or reused them? Let me know, thanks!
Great mod! I did those along with ECS upgraded front and rear sways and definitely made the car feel solid 👊
Did this upgrade get rid of the rear feeling loose?
@@tecitez16 it tightened the whole car overall but the best mod I did to get rid of the rear slop was aluminum subframe inserts 😁 they're easy to install and made a HUGE difference!
@@micraw714 cool. I'll look into that. I figured all the stuff I had done would get rid of that, does to an extent but not like I would want. I appreciate it.
@@tecitez16 you're welcome and good luck! They make all of the bushings so dang soft to accommodate the run flat tires so tightening the rear helps tremendously 🙂
what about the tilt angle? as far as I know, after such an exchange, the angle is negative and you need to mount the cambers
Hi I have a bmw 325xi 2006 will this work thank u great vid …
Can you fit the control arms, bushings, etc. from the 1M to the 128i ??
What is your driving experience after change this suspension parts?
Did you need to remove or drill out the alignment pin of the strut assembly to get your car properly aligned after installing these parts?
What kind of alignment needs to be done after this? Some people say get m3 spec alignment
TAKE TO THE TRACK
Will this work with 15mm spacers? If it doesn’t, will it feel weird to have 20mm and none in the front with these control arms? Ty
Can this be done on a F30? Would I just buy a M control arm and that’s how you do it??
Does this with stock 335i suspension make a difference??
I have a 2011 335is with stock suspension and its just too bouncy when I floor the car and in corners for my taste having had a E93 M3 before.
Would you rechnend just doing M3 control arms alone? Will that make a dramatical difference by itself?
Hello :) why didn't you raise both hands and then tighten ? And if I understood correctly, those new shoulders lowered him?
got these a week ago still waiting to receive
this guy is a better version than chrisfix!!
Can anyone clarify what alignment to get? I've been getting various answers. Just installed m3 control arms for front and rear. 335i spec or M3?
no post-install impressions?
Hi I don’t suppose you have the part number for the headlight adjuster arm ? I did the arms but forgot the adjuster
Also I think you need to extend the tie rods about 2 turns to get it close enough to drive to the alignment place
I made a link that includes the arm and the two nuts : bit.ly/2IhpcCr
Sweet does this work for xdrive?
Nice. Is there anything available for f chassis cars? I.e., f80 m3 control arms
I believe on F series 3 series you can upgrade the control arms but you'd be only upgrading the lowers.
Have you done your rear control arms yet? Best done when you replace your subframe bushings too for stiffer ones.
No yet but I'll be looking into it.
Did you have any issues because you have active steering?
You should get some style 359m wheels for the 335i
The 359M looks nice for sure.
I love how my adaptive headlights work so well, but can you comment on if there is any difference you noticed after this install?
I'll chime in soon in an future video on how the car feels with this upgrade.
This guy should move to florida
So he can be my neighbor
I have a e90 N54 but I have bc racing extreme low on the car can use that kit
Hi there. Are the corresponding parts you mention in this vide the same on the E46 M3 and can be used on the E46 non-M to obtain the same enhanced M series performance?
I don't believe there is a similar retrofit available for the E46 but I'll take a look.