It is interesting to note that in Star Trek: Online, the Breen wholeheartedly supported the signing of the Temporal Accords, citing time travel as a "coward's tool"
The Breen attack on Earth was crazy, the attacking forces were nearly wiped out and they didn't even damage anything of strategic importance, it was just a blow to Federation morale. Damar saw it as a pyrrhic victory, but the Breen just don't give a sh*t.
A propaganda victory can be a lot more valuable than a military victory. In the Vietnam war the Tet offensive was a complete failure in terms of strategy for the North Vietnamese army, in fact it left them severely depleted and overextended. If anything the US was closer to winning the war than ever, however, it was such a blow to US morale that the public demanded an end to the war.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Vietnam isn't a communist nation though? As well, you simply don't have the right to dictate how another nation plots the course of its destiny.
@@judaegekikamen4223 It has though! Those successful societies were either annihilated by the West or were just forgotten. Easy enough to do considering they were never superpowers or geopoliticking heavy weights.
Funny how the Romulans are usually hyped up as the ultra secretive, isolationist faction... Then there's the Breen who make the Romulans seem like an open book by comparison.
Well the federation had a 200 years history with them. The Breen were discovered much later. And unlike the Romulans, they do not share a border with them.
I love the Breen because they're such an outlier to the setting, they just showed up one day and rocked everybody's shit. They didn't even really care that they lost, they just went back home and suffered few if any repercussions for bombing Earth.
Kira and Dukat saw a Breen because they stole "refrigerator suits" when they rescued Ziyal. Nor did they freeze to death wearing them suggesting that they're not refrigerated at all. Canonically, everything we know of the Breen comes from the Breen, so can be assumed to be a lie. In the real world, despite playing a major role in DS9 for three seasons, the writers never fleshed them out for some reason.
I was thinking the same thing about the Ziyal rescue episode, kind of a plot hole there. Also, with all the battles during the Dominion War, you'd think Starfleet would have had ample opportunity to inspect Breen corpses.
@@jdcrosier2682 They also could've just simply turned off the refrigeration function of their suits or they merely serve a temperature regulation function, in which case would match the body temperature of anyone that wears them. They could also have been just pretending to be breen and merely used their suits to remain comfortable in the hot desert conditions.
I'm not surprise. Remember the episode when Worf, Bashir were imprisoned. The Jem'Hadar were testing alpha Quadrant species, everyone fought Jem'Hadar, the Breen didn't look like he was injured at all.
I liked the idea posed in the Post-Nemesis Pocket Books series that the Breen aren't actually one species, but several united under the same banner, like a secretive, militarised Federation.
I loved how unknowingly powerful the Breen were, the fact that just them entering the war turned it single handily in the Dominions favour, it made them seem so powerful which when combined with their enigma made them so terrifying.
Most species with access universal translators: Normal speech Breen: Electric Garbling The Breen are indeed an enigmatic faction, with their full body suits, asymmetric warships, and astropolitical choices. In apocryphal Star Trek lore, the Breen may consist of multiple species. This is a rather *_"cool"_* video.
I love the theory that the Breen is not a single species, but multiple brought together for survival. And why they are so against the Federation for it counters their culture in almost every way it is consider subersive.
The Breen are one of my favorite science-fiction races of all time. I absolutely love the Breen and wished we got more of them because of how awesome they were.
The quote regarding Russia made by Winston Churchill applies perfectly to the Breen: "A riddle, wrapped inside of a mystery, wrapped inside of an enigma."
The breen always fascinated me becuase i knew nothing about them and i love the suits. Not sure if any of the books expand on them, maybe the comics? idk but i should check it out......... Man, i want a good star trek game, id take one like jedi fallen order and in order to make hand to hand combat make sense, id love to play as a Klingon, so going swords out would make sense. That would be so great How the hell do we not have a modern amazing trek rpg yet?
Star Trek: Elite Force existed and I think a game similar to that would work. Where you play as a Star Trek "experimental" squad using personal energy shields and teleporter technology to switch out phasers and weapons. Could take place during the Dominion War explore what it means to be Starfleet in an uncertain galaxy.
Its been a while but from what I remember, the Books go with the intepretation that teh Breen are a collection of several species that shun individuality and wear the suits to enforce conformity. Also, I think they live in underground cities so its harder for people to spy on them. One of the main races under the suits are indeed, hairy wolf men.
@@27volt one of the species has to use refrig tech and disolves when exposed to oxygen atmospheres. this species is one of the two species that makes up of the bulk of Breen that other species encounter. the other is a four lobed species immune to telepathy.
I always like the theory that the Breen are the aliens from “Dear Doctor”, an ENT episode where the main characters have a cure to their species wide genetic disease, but refuse to give it to them because they’re “destined” to be wiped out, The Romulans gave them suits to survive and told them what the humans did, that’s why they hate the Federation.
@@charlesford7887 The thing that irritated me the most was about that episode was the fact they try to force you to agree with the Doctor. I think that episode could have been good if it was more ambiguous. Like have the doctor conflicted and point out the reason he decides to not give the cure is not some nebulous "its the way things are supposed to be" but more of the fact that he feels that giving the cure will forever force that other race on the planet into servitude and he can't make the choice that would end up forcing this species into slavery. Then have Archer feel conflicted over that as well and ends with him deciding its above his pay grade and sends the info to the Vulcans and Starfleet HQ for them to make the final decision; with hints that this is where the seeds of the Prime Directive were planted
@@Nostripe361 It was meant to be written more ambiguous, hence the scene with Archer helping him to decide. I think the higher ups didn’t want such a independent ep from Archer so early.
@@Nostripe361 The thing is, there could've been other options for that second race, potentially they could've had a rights movement form over time (perhaps starfleet and the Federation could've supported it). Also, even if they continued to live as a servant race, they'd still survive, which is more than could be said for the other species. The point being, the doctor tried to paint the situation as a zero sum game, when it really wasn't. This just felt contrived and annoying to me
I've always wondered if the breen are shape shifters this could be the reason why we are unsure how they actually look, it would also explain why no one finds the body as it breaks down too quickly. It could also explain how the founders formed the alliance as they would have have similar common grounds.
the eu books state the Breen are a confederacy of species that confirm to one model. the suits are a combination of the various features of the species. one species is four lobed and immune to telepathy. one species is ammonia based and disolves in oxygen environments and requires refrig. another is a hairy wolfman hence the snouted helmets.
An enemy you know little about is an enemy you won't be able to defend against or anticipate the strategies. I think the Breen should replace the Borg as the overall "Big Bad " of the Star Trek franchise. Plus Garak used a Breen suit in one episode. Could always study it and the wreckage of their ships from the Dominion War. Buy the info from the Ferengi. Have the defeated Dominion and Breen turn it over as terms for the Armistice. I think the term "Confederacy " is a ruse so they can disavow their raiding operations. The suits could mask several different types of species that live under the term of Breen. The Alpha Quadrant version of The Dominion that uses the suits to mask what they truly are from outsiders. Like Vorlons do.
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Damn, the Breen are better at Isolationism than North Korea. With NK there's at least people who escape the system and tell the rest of the world what goes on in there, but the Breen don't seem to have that at all
An awkward comparison: North Koreans are still humans, not a completely different species, ;). And they share a single planet with the other involved powers and nations...
Breen physiology cannot be than much of a mystery. Kira and Dukat killed some Breen when rescuing his daughter. They could have seen what was underneath the helmet of the dead Breen. On Cardasia, Kira kills a breen and actually wears his suit. She must know what they look like. Likewise, during the Dominion war, there must be cases where the allies came across dead Breen and saw what was inside their suits. So the physiology must be known to some extent. If they have a physical form, then there will be knowledge what that could be. If there is nothing under the helmets, this is also an indication that they have no physical form or one that can't stay stable without the suit.
If the Breen truly did come from a super cold planet, it's possible that their bodies contain chemicals that are only liquid or solid at freezing temperatures. And they will be damaged beyond recognition when they're removed from their suits as their "blood" boils and their skin melts.
Well they could have had disintegration tech in the suit to destroy the body. I believe that is used to explain the reason no one sees a Romulan in the Romulan Earth war in Beta Canon due to the war happening after Star Trek Enterprise. Basically the suit will destroy the body if the suit is opened on the battlefield or the user is dead.
@@KingOfMadCows That's indeed possible. But surely the other races would know that the Breen, or at least some of them, have a physiology that disintegrates when the suits is removed. The video suggests that Breen physiology is a total mystery. But that can't be the case as we know that Kira at least has seen underneath a Breen suit. And we can be sure that the Breen casualties would be studied. Of course there is another possibility that has not been suggested. Perhaps the suit itself produces chemicals to disintegrate the body on death of the wearer. But even then, there would surely be cases where the process does not work.
@@Nostripe361 I posted the same suggestion just after you did. But again, surely this would have been at least raised as a theory, as there would surely be some sort of bio-chemical residue that could be studied. Another possibility is that is is a combination of physiology and disintegration tech. The latter would be facilitated by the former.
@@hoplitethirtynine1487 That is a good point. I always thought it was similar to the tech used in replicators where energy is turned into matter. So the tech could do the opposite and turn the flesh into energy but this would leave a detectable spike in radiation or so other energy. I know there is also the issue of why no one has mentioned this tech being in any of the suits they captured or worn. I think that is why most people go with them being some form of gaseous or volatile matter that is lost when you open the suite.
Man does anyone besides me find it funny that the helmets worn by the Breen reminds anyone of the helmet worn by Princess Leia in the Return of the Jedi.
Nice of my favorite factions in StarTrek! sooo cool & mysterious! and i really like their "off" ship designs! (specially in ST:O, Breen ships are glorious to fly!)
for me the Breen will always be akin to the wolves in Saki's brutally elegant "The Wolves of Cernogratz" they are ever so delightfully eerie and terrifying, aren't they? ;) their mere entry into the Dominion war very nearly turned the tide of the war in the Founder's favours just like (snaps fingers) that
It's assumed that after the Dominion War, the Breen resumed their isolationism, which lasted for at least several more centuries and possibly up until the time of the Burn, and didn't reveal their presence until the Emerald Chain had sufficiently established a presence in the expanded galaxy in the wake of the Federation's near-total collapse. Not until 3191 was anything significant learned about the Breen, and even then not much was verified. The Breen civilisation seems to have been revealed as a stratocracy, a civilisation in which all have a military role to fill,and a military purpose to serve -- there are no civilians among the Breen of the 32nd Century, only soldiers. They are organized into "flights", each of which is commanded by their most senior officer, called a Primarch. Only a very few, possibly couriers, have ever seen the face of a Breen and lived to tell the tale, but they have confirmed that the Breen appear to have a humanoid body structure, they require no refrigeration, and are polymorphic, though their ability to modify their bodily appearance,though it appears to be limited to two distinct forms, ome gelatinous, the other appearing more solid and humanoid.
It's telling that even in the comedy-focused Lower Decks, the Breen are treated with the utmost seriousness with nothing light-hearted or joking made of their showing up.
@@Robert_Douglass Lower Decks has managed to poke fun at some pretty niche and unexplored parts of Star Trek before. I'm inclined to think they could have made comedy of them if they wanted to. I think this was an intentional move, to maintain the menace of the Breen.
It's supremely silly to maintain that there's nothing known about breen physiology even after they've been in a major war. There _would_ have been bodies to study. There would have been wreckage of ships telling alliance engineers a lot about the internal environment they were built to support. And even before the war, breen weapons were traded on the black market. You can learn a _lot_ about the conditions under which an item was manufactured by looking at it on a molecular or atomic level even today, and we're talking about the 24th century here.
I think The Breen are aquatic based life forms that live within the oceans of the M class home world which explains not only the colder climate they prefer but the Algae paste that were served to Worf and DAX while they were prisoners. It is also my theory that their heads resemble an octopus which explains the long snout protruding from the helmets it’s to contain their tentacles on their faces
I remember hearing a theory that the Breen are actually a collection of species, hence 'Confederacy', who wear the suits to maintain the facade of a single, united species.
And somewhere in the late 20th / early 21st century a pair of Breen doing a long-term observational project on the planet Earth decided to take on a musical career in synth-pop and techno collaborating with numerous native pop artists as well as creating their own material, and they settled in France which is known for quick surrenders on the battlefield, taking the name Daft Punk.
No, they came to Earth to win the award for the most shit sounding computer narration on UA-cam, but after five years of failure they gave up and went home.
As much as I think that showing what the brain actually look like would ruin them, I swear that if I was operating in the Star Trek universe as an independent, the first thing I would do is crack a few of those suits open whether they liked it or not.
I wonder if we might see more of the Breen in a future storyline from Picard or maybe Lower Decks. Meanwhile, I'm just waiting for a new version of the lost video on the Dominion.
I haven't looked very far into it but I like the headcanon that there is no Breen species, they're just a very tight guild of various bipedal seperatists
It's a pity the series finale of DS9 saw a quarter million cut from their budget at the last minute, it didn't just cause some.reused footage to be used, the Breed where supposed to retreat before the assault on Cardassia.
Heard a creepy theory that Breen soldiers my be animated cadavers that use refrigeration kits to keep them from decaying. If true then they would be a scary enemy to deal with.
@@pendragon0905 The idea, as I was told it, was that the Breen civilization is normal living beings; at least normal for the Star trek universe. However they use their dead or the dead of their enemies with some rudimentary life support systems or AI program running the body instead of the original brain. I admit it was not my theory so I don't remember all of the details but the basic idea was that they use puppeteered dead bodies for their foot soldiers.
so one think i have always thought is that they could be a synthetic race also their ships do have a similar look to the borg only with an eye for style, it would be an interesting idea if these guys were a distant offshoot of the race that would become the borg, maybe a colony ship entered a wormhole and found itself on the other side of the galaxy with no way to get home so they settled a world and thousands of years later we have the Breen.
I've always thought that maybe the Breen were related to or descended from the aliens that seeded the galaxy millions of years ago. Their tech is completely different and far more advanced than the rest of the powers which indicates they developed it along a non-traditional path and they have no interest or desire to interact with anyone else. Almost like they simply don't need to in the same way we don't have a need to interact with deer.
I remember in the books post war , the Breen became very worried about federation technology superiority, and they attacked and destroyed utopia fleetyard ( like in Picard except yhem not androids) and form an alliance with all the federation enemies and stolen federation slipstream technology from the delta quadrant. The typhon pact . ( breen , tholians, zhenkety , and a couple of other worlds) after a post war borg invasion, the federation, romulus and Klingons never being weaker.
Even if they are surrounded by the Federation, we have seen FTL that doesn't use warp. Such technology or even a wormhole (natural or created by the Breen) could connect them to a far larger nation than is known. We also have seen the possibility of a transporter used to beam a person through more than half the galaxy as well as Voyager beamed into another ship. The Breen known so far could be just an outpost to keep an eye on this part of the galaxy. One of so many abandoned things in Star Trek they could have built an entire show around.
I like to imagine the Breen are either non-corporeal organics or a robotic race akin to a swarm intelligence. Rather than a hive intelligence like the Borg, the individual "selves" could each have a voice in the Breen Confederacy but their external politics is using the entire swarm's voice. As for why they are using the suits, two ideas come to mind: Camouflage and optimal processing. To interact with other species, they likely determined they had to look similar enough to them and thus created the suits to serve as avatars of the swarm. In order to quickly process both the will of the swarm and the strategic situation in normal "biological" environments they would need to keep cool to maximise processing speed. It's entirely possible the ultra-cold suits is to keep biological species from looking too close as it's clearly incredibly dangerous for them if the suit is breached. This would take up vast amounts of resources, but given organic species tend to react badly to synthetic ones it is safer than the other choice until the Dominion comes along promising to unite all regardless of species, finally giving the Breen a path out of their self-imposed restrictions.
I guess with all the dead Breen laying around after the battle of cardasia no one thought to take one of their helmets off. Or when kira snuck in in a Breen suit she must of closed her eyes when she took it off of the Breen. Maybe she found it in a closet, who knows?
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Wait? No one has seen one with out their suit? Maybe I am misrembering but didn't Kira and Dukat beat up some and steal their uniforms to rescue his daughter?
The Federation would never have developed a countermeasure to the Breen energy dampner, if the Breen _had not joined the Dominion._ Starfleet were only able to obtain a Breen dampner due to failings in Cardassian security on Jem'hidarr ships being retrofitted with the Weapons. … If the Dominion did not insist on having Breen weapons installed in their own ships, and the Founders didn't have a "traitor", the Breen's enigmatic nature means Starfleet would never have been able to get one. So in some parallel universes where the wormhole was never discovered, the Breen have this ace which they'll use someday - and perhaps a lone Bird of Prey won't make certain reactor adjustments at just the right time?
It is interesting to note that in Star Trek: Online, the Breen wholeheartedly supported the signing of the Temporal Accords, citing time travel as a "coward's tool"
Well it is
@@michaelandreipalon359 they should
@@michaelandreipalon359 ?
@Michael Andrei Palon Hello? How else are we gonna stop the Mirror Universe invasions?
@Michael Andrei Palon Or even better: isolate their universe from everyone else
The Breen attack on Earth was crazy, the attacking forces were nearly wiped out and they didn't even damage anything of strategic importance, it was just a blow to Federation morale. Damar saw it as a pyrrhic victory, but the Breen just don't give a sh*t.
A propaganda victory can be a lot more valuable than a military victory.
In the Vietnam war the Tet offensive was a complete failure in terms of strategy for the North Vietnamese army, in fact it left them severely depleted and overextended. If anything the US was closer to winning the war than ever, however, it was such a blow to US morale that the public demanded an end to the war.
@@michaelandreipalon359 it's because communism hasn't been done right 🤣🤣🤣 jkjk
@@michaelandreipalon359 Vietnam isn't a communist nation though? As well, you simply don't have the right to dictate how another nation plots the course of its destiny.
@@judaegekikamen4223 It has though! Those successful societies were either annihilated by the West or were just forgotten. Easy enough to do considering they were never superpowers or geopoliticking heavy weights.
@@michaelandreipalon359 How very authoritarian of you. Sounds like you have more in common with past communists than you think.
Funny how the Romulans are usually hyped up as the ultra secretive, isolationist faction...
Then there's the Breen who make the Romulans seem like an open book by comparison.
Well the federation had a 200 years history with them. The Breen were discovered much later. And unlike the Romulans, they do not share a border with them.
I love the Breen because they're such an outlier to the setting, they just showed up one day and rocked everybody's shit. They didn't even really care that they lost, they just went back home and suffered few if any repercussions for bombing Earth.
I love how they just never seem to give a shit about anything, victory, defeat, they just don’t care
Kira and Dukat saw a Breen because they stole "refrigerator suits" when they rescued Ziyal. Nor did they freeze to death wearing them suggesting that they're not refrigerated at all. Canonically, everything we know of the Breen comes from the Breen, so can be assumed to be a lie. In the real world, despite playing a major role in DS9 for three seasons, the writers never fleshed them out for some reason.
The fact they where never fleshed out is for the better.
I prefer them remaining mysterious and the information about them contradictory.
I was thinking the same thing about the Ziyal rescue episode, kind of a plot hole there. Also, with all the battles during the Dominion War, you'd think Starfleet would have had ample opportunity to inspect Breen corpses.
My head canon in that episode is that the Breen either melted or sublimated in the desert conditions, so neither of them saw it’s face.
@@jdcrosier2682 They also could've just simply turned off the refrigeration function of their suits or they merely serve a temperature regulation function, in which case would match the body temperature of anyone that wears them. They could also have been just pretending to be breen and merely used their suits to remain comfortable in the hot desert conditions.
I think it's telling that when Kira confronted a pair of Jem'Hadar in a Breen suit, the Jem'Hadar looked scared.
Dude which episode was that again I can't remember
@@snakeking101 "What You Leave Behind"
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I'm not surprise. Remember the episode when Worf, Bashir were imprisoned. The Jem'Hadar were testing alpha Quadrant species, everyone fought Jem'Hadar, the Breen didn't look like he was injured at all.
I liked the idea posed in the Post-Nemesis Pocket Books series that the Breen aren't actually one species, but several united under the same banner, like a secretive, militarised Federation.
Can confirm we are different but united!
I loved how unknowingly powerful the Breen were, the fact that just them entering the war turned it single handily in the Dominions favour, it made them seem so powerful which when combined with their enigma made them so terrifying.
They only turn it around because of their energy dampening weapon technology.
I just think they had a gimmick that, once figured out, eliminated their benefit.
Most species with access universal translators: Normal speech
Breen: Electric Garbling
The Breen are indeed an enigmatic faction, with their full body suits, asymmetric warships, and astropolitical choices. In apocryphal Star Trek lore, the Breen may consist of multiple species. This is a rather *_"cool"_* video.
So something like the Borg?
There was also a moment when they played a Breen nursery rhyme without the mask (for the uniform)
@@Flint_Inferno more or less like the federation but more smaller and more strict
I love the theory that the Breen is not a single species, but multiple brought together for survival. And why they are so against the Federation for it counters their culture in almost every way it is consider subersive.
The Breen are one of my favorite science-fiction races of all time. I absolutely love the Breen and wished we got more of them because of how awesome they were.
The quote regarding Russia made by Winston Churchill applies perfectly to the Breen: "A riddle, wrapped inside of a mystery, wrapped inside of an enigma."
The breen always fascinated me becuase i knew nothing about them and i love the suits. Not sure if any of the books expand on them, maybe the comics? idk but i should check it out......... Man, i want a good star trek game, id take one like jedi fallen order and in order to make hand to hand combat make sense, id love to play as a Klingon, so going swords out would make sense. That would be so great How the hell do we not have a modern amazing trek rpg yet?
Star Trek: Elite Force existed and I think a game similar to that would work. Where you play as a Star Trek "experimental" squad using personal energy shields and teleporter technology to switch out phasers and weapons. Could take place during the Dominion War explore what it means to be Starfleet in an uncertain galaxy.
Its been a while but from what I remember, the Books go with the intepretation that teh Breen are a collection of several species that shun individuality and wear the suits to enforce conformity. Also, I think they live in underground cities so its harder for people to spy on them. One of the main races under the suits are indeed, hairy wolf men.
@@27volt one of the species has to use refrig tech and disolves when exposed to oxygen atmospheres. this species is one of the two species that makes up of the bulk of Breen that other species encounter. the other is a four lobed species immune to telepathy.
I always like the theory that the Breen are the aliens from “Dear Doctor”, an ENT episode where the main characters have a cure to their species wide genetic disease, but refuse to give it to them because they’re “destined” to be wiped out, The Romulans gave them suits to survive and told them what the humans did, that’s why they hate the Federation.
that episode was kind of fucked up lmao
@@charlesford7887 The thing that irritated me the most was about that episode was the fact they try to force you to agree with the Doctor. I think that episode could have been good if it was more ambiguous. Like have the doctor conflicted and point out the reason he decides to not give the cure is not some nebulous "its the way things are supposed to be" but more of the fact that he feels that giving the cure will forever force that other race on the planet into servitude and he can't make the choice that would end up forcing this species into slavery. Then have Archer feel conflicted over that as well and ends with him deciding its above his pay grade and sends the info to the Vulcans and Starfleet HQ for them to make the final decision; with hints that this is where the seeds of the Prime Directive were planted
@@Nostripe361 It was meant to be written more ambiguous, hence the scene with Archer helping him to decide. I think the higher ups didn’t want such a independent ep from Archer so early.
@@charlesford7887 It was incredibly fucked up, the Doctor was literally playing God
@@Nostripe361 The thing is, there could've been other options for that second race, potentially they could've had a rights movement form over time (perhaps starfleet and the Federation could've supported it).
Also, even if they continued to live as a servant race, they'd still survive, which is more than could be said for the other species.
The point being, the doctor tried to paint the situation as a zero sum game, when it really wasn't. This just felt contrived and annoying to me
I've always wondered if the breen are shape shifters this could be the reason why we are unsure how they actually look, it would also explain why no one finds the body as it breaks down too quickly. It could also explain how the founders formed the alliance as they would have have similar common grounds.
This would be a better idea story wise
the eu books state the Breen are a confederacy of species that confirm to one model. the suits are a combination of the various features of the species. one species is four lobed and immune to telepathy. one species is ammonia based and disolves in oxygen environments and requires refrig. another is a hairy wolfman hence the snouted helmets.
I personally like the idea that they are wolf like
>barges into the dominion war
>attacks your home world
>refuses to elaborate further
>leaves
An enemy you know little about is an enemy you won't be able to defend against or anticipate the strategies. I think the Breen should replace the Borg as the overall "Big Bad " of the Star Trek franchise.
Plus Garak used a Breen suit in one episode. Could always study it and the wreckage of their ships from the Dominion War. Buy the info from the Ferengi. Have the defeated Dominion and Breen turn it over as terms for the Armistice.
I think the term "Confederacy " is a ruse so they can disavow their raiding operations. The suits could mask several different types of species that live under the term of Breen. The Alpha Quadrant version of The Dominion that uses the suits to mask what they truly are from outsiders. Like Vorlons do.
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@1:50 While rescuing Ziyal, Kira and Dukat killed two Breen and wore their suits as a disguise, so they've definitely seen what they look like.
OrangeRiver released a fantastic video about the Breen about two months ago.
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Damn, the Breen are better at Isolationism than North Korea. With NK there's at least people who escape the system and tell the rest of the world what goes on in there, but the Breen don't seem to have that at all
An awkward comparison: North Koreans are still humans, not a completely different species, ;). And they share a single planet with the other involved powers and nations...
Breen physiology cannot be than much of a mystery. Kira and Dukat killed some Breen when rescuing his daughter. They could have seen what was underneath the helmet of the dead Breen.
On Cardasia, Kira kills a breen and actually wears his suit. She must know what they look like.
Likewise, during the Dominion war, there must be cases where the allies came across dead Breen and saw what was inside their suits.
So the physiology must be known to some extent. If they have a physical form, then there will be knowledge what that could be. If there is nothing under the helmets, this is also an indication that they have no physical form or one that can't stay stable without the suit.
If the Breen truly did come from a super cold planet, it's possible that their bodies contain chemicals that are only liquid or solid at freezing temperatures. And they will be damaged beyond recognition when they're removed from their suits as their "blood" boils and their skin melts.
Well they could have had disintegration tech in the suit to destroy the body. I believe that is used to explain the reason no one sees a Romulan in the Romulan Earth war in Beta Canon due to the war happening after Star Trek Enterprise. Basically the suit will destroy the body if the suit is opened on the battlefield or the user is dead.
@@KingOfMadCows That's indeed possible. But surely the other races would know that the Breen, or at least some of them, have a physiology that disintegrates when the suits is removed.
The video suggests that Breen physiology is a total mystery. But that can't be the case as we know that Kira at least has seen underneath a Breen suit. And we can be sure that the Breen casualties would be studied.
Of course there is another possibility that has not been suggested. Perhaps the suit itself produces chemicals to disintegrate the body on death of the wearer. But even then, there would surely be cases where the process does not work.
@@Nostripe361 I posted the same suggestion just after you did. But again, surely this would have been at least raised as a theory, as there would surely be some sort of bio-chemical residue that could be studied. Another possibility is that is is a combination of physiology and disintegration tech. The latter would be facilitated by the former.
@@hoplitethirtynine1487 That is a good point.
I always thought it was similar to the tech used in replicators where energy is turned into matter. So the tech could do the opposite and turn the flesh into energy but this would leave a detectable spike in radiation or so other energy. I know there is also the issue of why no one has mentioned this tech being in any of the suits they captured or worn. I think that is why most people go with them being some form of gaseous or volatile matter that is lost when you open the suite.
Damn, Neil Breen has moved up in the world...and galaxy.
Man does anyone besides me find it funny that the helmets worn by the Breen reminds anyone of the helmet worn by Princess Leia in the Return of the Jedi.
Nice of my favorite factions in StarTrek! sooo cool & mysterious! and i really like their "off" ship designs! (specially in ST:O, Breen ships are glorious to fly!)
for me the Breen will always be akin to the wolves in Saki's brutally elegant "The Wolves of Cernogratz" they are ever so delightfully eerie and terrifying, aren't they? ;)
their mere entry into the Dominion war very nearly turned the tide of the war in the Founder's favours just like (snaps fingers) that
It's assumed that after the Dominion War, the Breen resumed their isolationism, which lasted for at least several more centuries and possibly up until the time of the Burn, and didn't reveal their presence until the Emerald Chain had sufficiently established a presence in the expanded galaxy in the wake of the Federation's near-total collapse. Not until 3191 was anything significant learned about the Breen, and even then not much was verified. The Breen civilisation seems to have been revealed as a stratocracy, a civilisation in which all have a military role to fill,and a military purpose to serve -- there are no civilians among the Breen of the 32nd Century, only soldiers. They are organized into "flights", each of which is commanded by their most senior officer, called a Primarch. Only a very few, possibly couriers, have ever seen the face of a Breen and lived to tell the tale, but they have confirmed that the Breen appear to have a humanoid body structure, they require no refrigeration, and are polymorphic, though their ability to modify their bodily appearance,though it appears to be limited to two distinct forms, ome gelatinous, the other appearing more solid and humanoid.
Right off the bat, a vessel with green lights looming menacingly in the darkness.
It's telling that even in the comedy-focused Lower Decks, the Breen are treated with the utmost seriousness with nothing light-hearted or joking made of their showing up.
Because not enough is known about the Breen for them to joke about, would be my guess.
@@Robert_Douglass Lower Decks has managed to poke fun at some pretty niche and unexplored parts of Star Trek before.
I'm inclined to think they could have made comedy of them if they wanted to.
I think this was an intentional move, to maintain the menace of the Breen.
Those helmets are the same one Leia wore in ROTJ.
There's big differences between the two if you put them side by side.
Basically the Mandalorians of Star Trek.
Id still like to see a 40k lore video on Ciaphas Cain.
I second that! Or the Valhallan regiment.
Very deadly and mysterious during the dominion war.
They sound almost as much of an enigma as our own Breen, of first name Neil
I love how the Breen look like princess Leia's disguise from ROTJ
I really like your WarHammer 40k videos.
It would be great if you make a on Alpha Legion.
Ambitious episode given the lack of information on this civilization.
Factions to be covered in the future:
1. The Borg (Star Trek)
2. Confederacy of Independent Systems (Star Wars)
3. Equestria (My Little Pony)
4. Umbrella Corporation (Resident Evil)
5. The Mavericks (Mega Man)
6. Allied Nations (Command & Conquer)
7. Tau Empire (Warhammer 40.000)
8. Global Relief Effort (Dying Light)
9. Autobots (Transformers)
10. Union Aerospace Corporation (DOOM)
11. Arasaka Corporation (Cyberpunk)
12. 3rd Street Saints (Saints Row)
13. The Fourth Reich (Metro)
14. Hunter's Guild (Monster Hunter)
15. Empire of Orlais (Dragon Age)
16. Coalition of Ordered Governments (Gears of War)
17. Terran Republic (PlanetSide)
18. House Harkonnen (Dune)
19. Decepticons (Transformers)
20. The Grineer (Warframe)
21. The Hive (Destiny)
This list go on if you wanted to
resident evil two are Federal Bioterrorism Commission and the bsaa in game
With the fall of the Romulan star Empire I want the Breen to be the new mysterious adversary to the Federation.
It's supremely silly to maintain that there's nothing known about breen physiology even after they've been in a major war. There _would_ have been bodies to study. There would have been wreckage of ships telling alliance engineers a lot about the internal environment they were built to support.
And even before the war, breen weapons were traded on the black market. You can learn a _lot_ about the conditions under which an item was manufactured by looking at it on a molecular or atomic level even today, and we're talking about the 24th century here.
I think The Breen are aquatic based life forms that live within the oceans of the M class home world which explains not only the colder climate they prefer but the Algae paste that were served to Worf and DAX while they were prisoners. It is also my theory that their heads resemble an octopus which explains the long snout protruding from the helmets it’s to contain their tentacles on their faces
I find it hard to believe that Starfleet hasn't come across a dead Breen and studied it.
I remember hearing a theory that the Breen are actually a collection of species, hence 'Confederacy', who wear the suits to maintain the facade of a single, united species.
Love the been ships have the most "alien" aesthetic on Star Trek.
TLDW: We have very little idea what the Breen are, or what they want, but they played a devastating role during the Dominion War.
And somewhere in the late 20th / early 21st century a pair of Breen doing a long-term observational project on the planet Earth decided to take on a musical career in synth-pop and techno collaborating with numerous native pop artists as well as creating their own material, and they settled in France which is known for quick surrenders on the battlefield, taking the name Daft Punk.
No, they came to Earth to win the award for the most shit sounding computer narration on UA-cam, but after five years of failure they gave up and went home.
How come the Breens outfits look like Princess Leias bounty hunter disguise in return of the Jedi?
Neil Breen Confederacy
No foreigner has ever seen the Breen without their suits and lived? On two occasions Kira killed a Breen and took their suit.
They might not be physical. Removing their suits may just reveal a cloud of gas that dissipates upon release.
Orions: Well at least you lasted longer against the Federation than we did.
The Breen have no hair and exist as a gelatinous and in solid form. La'K is breen in star trek discovery
A little similar to the Changelings.
The Breen from STD IS NOT CANON!!!!!
@@Howyaduing I didn't know that. Is it mentioned anywhere why they're not cannon because the rest of the STD is cannon
For other mass effect fans, it really seems like the Batarians share many similarities with the Been, right?
I'd love to see a video on Babylon 5 empires like the Vorlon
As much as I think that showing what the brain actually look like would ruin them, I swear that if I was operating in the Star Trek universe as an independent, the first thing I would do is crack a few of those suits open whether they liked it or not.
It would be interesting to find out if the Borg would be able to assimilate a Breen.
I wonder if we might see more of the Breen in a future storyline from Picard or maybe Lower Decks.
Meanwhile, I'm just waiting for a new version of the lost video on the Dominion.
I haven't looked very far into it but I like the headcanon that there is no Breen species, they're just a very tight guild of various bipedal seperatists
Thank you the English subtitle.
I hope you guys do one on the full length of the Dominion War
It's a pity the series finale of DS9 saw a quarter million cut from their budget at the last minute, it didn't just cause some.reused footage to be used, the Breed where supposed to retreat before the assault on Cardassia.
that's still mentioned in dialogue.
What if the Breen are like the Cylons of Star Trek. Interesting 🤔
Heard a creepy theory that Breen soldiers my be animated cadavers that use refrigeration kits to keep them from decaying. If true then they would be a scary enemy to deal with.
So, the Breen are zombies?
@@pendragon0905 The idea, as I was told it, was that the Breen civilization is normal living beings; at least normal for the Star trek universe. However they use their dead or the dead of their enemies with some rudimentary life support systems or AI program running the body instead of the original brain. I admit it was not my theory so I don't remember all of the details but the basic idea was that they use puppeteered dead bodies for their foot soldiers.
@@Nostripe361
Zombie avatars
Perhaps the Dominion offered them genetic engineering techniques that would allow them to live on Minshara class planets without environmental suits.
Starfleet Reimagined!
You had me with the title
so one think i have always thought is that they could be a synthetic race also their ships do have a similar look to the borg only with an eye for style, it would be an interesting idea if these guys were a distant offshoot of the race that would become the borg, maybe a colony ship entered a wormhole and found itself on the other side of the galaxy with no way to get home so they settled a world and thousands of years later we have the Breen.
Little known fact, The Breen were also welcome at Jabba the Hutt's palace.
I wish st disco would reveal the secrets of the Breen.
Could you do the Terran empire next?
I have an idea for an Atlas investigation: Wellington Wells from We Happy Few. The narrator has a voice fitting enough for it
I've got an idea for a series of videos you could do. How about the 24 factions of Twilight Imperium?
"This is intolerable! They have us caged up like animals!" -- WORF
I've always thought that maybe the Breen were related to or descended from the aliens that seeded the galaxy millions of years ago.
Their tech is completely different and far more advanced than the rest of the powers which indicates they developed it along a non-traditional path and they have no interest or desire to interact with anyone else. Almost like they simply don't need to in the same way we don't have a need to interact with deer.
I remember in the books post war , the Breen became very worried about federation technology superiority, and they attacked and destroyed utopia fleetyard ( like in Picard except yhem not androids) and form an alliance with all the federation enemies and stolen federation slipstream technology from the delta quadrant. The typhon pact . ( breen , tholians, zhenkety , and a couple of other worlds) after a post war borg invasion, the federation, romulus and Klingons never being weaker.
Also in the novels, the Breen are not a single species. They wear identical suits to hide what species they actually are to prevent discrimination.
Thanks for sharing.
Nice work not alot of Breen lore vids out there, and i was hoping it would be this Narrator. 🤟
I thought The Breen were surrounded on all sides by The Federation, so the size of their empire would be constrained, not unknown.
@Thisis Gettinboring I did but every map is different, so they were no help.
Even if they are surrounded by the Federation, we have seen FTL that doesn't use warp. Such technology or even a wormhole (natural or created by the Breen) could connect them to a far larger nation than is known.
We also have seen the possibility of a transporter used to beam a person through more than half the galaxy as well as Voyager beamed into another ship.
The Breen known so far could be just an outpost to keep an eye on this part of the galaxy.
One of so many abandoned things in Star Trek they could have built an entire show around.
@@grayscribe1342 Yeah, fair point.
Can you do a video on the Autobots?
I like to imagine the Breen are either non-corporeal organics or a robotic race akin to a swarm intelligence. Rather than a hive intelligence like the Borg, the individual "selves" could each have a voice in the Breen Confederacy but their external politics is using the entire swarm's voice. As for why they are using the suits, two ideas come to mind: Camouflage and optimal processing. To interact with other species, they likely determined they had to look similar enough to them and thus created the suits to serve as avatars of the swarm. In order to quickly process both the will of the swarm and the strategic situation in normal "biological" environments they would need to keep cool to maximise processing speed. It's entirely possible the ultra-cold suits is to keep biological species from looking too close as it's clearly incredibly dangerous for them if the suit is breached. This would take up vast amounts of resources, but given organic species tend to react badly to synthetic ones it is safer than the other choice until the Dominion comes along promising to unite all regardless of species, finally giving the Breen a path out of their self-imposed restrictions.
I would love to see you guys conquer the tholian assembly for your next trek race. Btw why did your dominion episode dissappear?
I guess with all the dead Breen laying around after the battle of cardasia no one thought to take one of their helmets off. Or when kira snuck in in a Breen suit she must of closed her eyes when she took it off of the Breen. Maybe she found it in a closet, who knows?
Breen are my favorite
Suggestion: Ambassador Kosh's Ship please
.....CRM-114 ?!
Factions I would like to see next:
1. Ice Nation | The 100
2. The Gorn Hegemony | Star Trek
3. The peacekeepers | Dying Light 2
4. Order of the Ancients | Assassin's Creed
5. The Ferengi Alliance | Star Trek
6Earth Federation from mobile suit Gundam
Isnt that breen ship called the Chell Gret or something like that?
Wait? No one has seen one with out their suit? Maybe I am misrembering but didn't Kira and Dukat beat up some and steal their uniforms to rescue his daughter?
They just stole the lone suits from a storage compartment. They otherwise didn't see a sXXt.
@@subraxas What are you talking about? Kira stole the suit off of one that she either killed/knocked out cold. It's literally in the show.
The Federation would never have developed a countermeasure to the Breen energy dampner, if the Breen _had not joined the Dominion._
Starfleet were only able to obtain a Breen dampner due to failings in Cardassian security on Jem'hidarr ships being retrofitted with the Weapons. … If the Dominion did not insist on having Breen weapons installed in their own ships, and the Founders didn't have a "traitor", the Breen's enigmatic nature means Starfleet would never have been able to get one.
So in some parallel universes where the wormhole was never discovered, the Breen have this ace which they'll use someday - and perhaps a lone Bird of Prey won't make certain reactor adjustments at just the right time?
I only just noticed that Breen helmets look rather like a certain character from Star Wars...
In short: The Breen Confederacy is a land of contrast
So that’s where Neil Breen comes from…
We now know what they look like.
Weyoun #8 was my fave.
Kira took a Breen suit and wore it on Cardassia Prime, so she would have seen one.
Isn’t there an episode of DS9 where Worf steals a Breen uniform from a knocked out Breen soldier?
I don't know if Worf does but Kira does. Twice.
Please tell me that Neil Breen is their God.
Earlier than my Notification 🔔
Pretty awesome. next something about South Park?
Breen would be a much better base for a new Star Trek series than Discovery or the corrupted Federation of Picard.