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@@Dan-uf2vh Sure, but Trek isn't hard sci-fi. It's not soft sci-fi either, but there are plenty of things in Trek that are so beyond the capabilities of today that they are effectively space magic. Sounds in a vacuum in sci-fi are common enough that criticizing it is like criticizing every other franchise that isn't 100% realistic.
You say that and I’m a Trekkie but I really can’t place the sound, I had to look it up. It’s certainly a nice sound but there are far more iconic sounds in Star Trek; sliding doors, torpedoes firing, phase beams.
@@Dan-uf2vh First of all space isn’t a true vacuum. Secondly electromagnetic shear forces that would also marginally affect you at your current point in space while close to them would cause a sound to emerge - you know - within your suit. You don’t know how a fictional visual cloak works. So don’t assume what it sounds like in space.
_Always have an air of caution around those who march beneath the Raptor's wings, for they are allied with the shadows and the void._ The D'Deridex is what happen when you mix a battleship with a submarine and put it in space. A deadly effective combination.
@@Cdre_Satori The Romulan D'Deridex class Warbird/Battleship in a truly symbolic, extremely powerful, sneaky, SLEEK, and ICONIC Warship design that would in my opinion be a worthy opponent to the Imperial Star Destroyer (despite the two ships being from two very different franchises.
"...to be unknown is to be unconquerable" It's extremely significant that neither Starfleet nor the Klingons (much less any other power in the Milky Way) have any idea how many Warbirds the Romulans have. They have an enormous Empire and can't get along with less than say one to each ten subject worlds to keep them subject to their Empire. The fleets we saw in the Dominion War must be a small fraction of the power they could bring to bear at any one place ff they truly felt the need.
@@silentdrew7636 Federation Plot Armor Is Strong In Star Trek- Calculating the Azz whooping the Dominion was giving the Federation In The first 4 months of the War, manpower and resources should have stretch to their limits. I mean even the Cardassins were losing troops at 500k every few weeks, Federation and Klingons should have been in the Millions by the 3rd week, The Romulans join in the Final months after all.
The D'Deridex warbirds used by the Tal Shiar to attack the Founder homeworld were illegal warbirds and were built using Tal Shiar "black" accounts. The Romulan government didn't even know they existed until they were on their way to the Gamma Quadrant.
The D'Deridex was one of my absolute favorite designs in all of science fiction. Huge and horrifying and powerful, with just enough of a familiar feel that it leaves you uneasy at the sight of it. The sounds of the cloak, the music when they were in TNG.. just absolutely brilliant concepting from start to finish. Thank you for sharing your analysis with us!
Please, please, please consider making a video about the federation's Akira-class starship. It's beautiful, my favourite and hideously underrated and underrepresented outside of it's circle of fans.
That space has to deal with Warp technobabble. Warp nacelles need line of sight of at least 50%. Fewer obstructions allow for faster speeds. This is one of the few ship designs that is not rendered Warp incapable by losing a pylon. Yes, the Defiant does not follow these rules.
@@optimuseprime7887 But on the other hand it makes the ship look very big without needing the enormous amounts of resources if it were to be solid. And from a romulan perspective. The idea of having a bigger ship that looks more menacing is perhaps more important then a smaller solid ship. Because we do know that romulans like to be intimidating.
For me the coolest ship is the Klingon bird of prey generations version or the little one out of deep space 9 wat captain sisko flyns around in defiant class
This video isn't just another video describing the ship's dimensions and capabilities. The background that's given puts another well layered texture on it. Well done.
This was easily the most interesting design in Star Trek outside of the Federation ships that appeared more than once. As for newer designs, yeah, the way I see it the Romulans are even worse off than the Cardassians now and are still struggling with resource and manpower shortages. That, and we've seen that smaller ships are the way to go in the Dominion conflict. Big Ships should only be used occasionally and are just big targets :cough: Odyssey :cough:
pretty much like what happened irl whit bog boat battleship have been replaced whit cruiser and destroyer to escort there carrier seeing that bigger ship are just more expensive and easier to hit
The Romulan Star Empire is one of my all time favorites and the D'Deridex is an awesome and thrilling example of all the things that make the Romulans such interesting antagonists. Marvelous investigation by the Institute, look forward to the next one!
These kinds of videos is what made me like this channel in the first place and it seems that starting to watch Star Trek was a sensible decision. Looking forward to these.
As a warship it's effective as to pound said target with damage and still take it. As a ship wise it's a Galaxy class romulan style. The main roal of this ship is fighting with power projection to make you fear it. Is there any doubt that I would fear this ship no. Well done video and content.
A truly iconic ship from the Star Trek mythos. One can only imagine how long it might be before someone decides to forcibly unite the Romulan successor states into a new empire, complete with an armada of D'deridex Warbirds suddenly emerging out of nowhere as a symbol of Romulan rebirth.
Singularity drives do use on dilithium according to a diagram made by one of TNG's technical designers. They also mine dilithium on the Romulan moon Remus. None of the shows or movies say they don't use dilithium.
a small matter/antimatter reaction is needed to spark the quantum singularity also most regular equipment/shuttlecraft/personal vehicles still use dilithium
@@toomanyaccounts The shows/movies never say that. According to one of the tech guys on TNG, dilithium is used in the drive to focus the energy created by the singularity. So yes it isn't used the maintain it, but it is used to help distribute the power created by it.
@@brothersgt.grauwolff6716 Dilithium is used to focus the energy created by the the singularity according to one of the tech guys on TNG. So the singularity isn't maintained by dilithium, it is still used as part of the power system.
Actually, the D'Deridex has no impulse engines. According to the designer, they were simply forgotten the show. My gues was always, that the singularity they use for power also provides a different kind of sub-light propulsion, which does not need any emission mechanism. Some kind of gravitation devise.
If we extrapolate from other scifi that uses gravity drives such as Babylon 5. They generate a small gravitational field off the bow of the vessel, so instead of pushing the ship forwards with engines, the ship simply 'falls' forwards for as long as the drive is active. Which would be a very Romulan way to propel a ship invisibly and without showing off any impulse signature.
Always loved the D'Deridex class, its design stuck with me through the years. And kudos for the opening quote from the largely forgotten turn based strategy ST game, "birth of the federation"!
The outro gave me Goosebumps.. Another fantastic video & on my favorite Trek ship, besides the Scimitar. & an rare treat covered by my favorite Sci-Fi channel!
I always imagined the huge space between a DD's wings could be used to house additional pods of various types and roles that could be slotted in. Due to the DD's mysterious nature we may never know.
Don't forget the Remans who also were involved in the war used in 'The Most Violent Encounters' as mentioned by Commander William T. Riker of the Sovereign Class Enterprise E and 'Cannon Fodder' as commented by Captain Jean-Luc Picard.
I like the Valdore(screw the half assed Picard designs though), but the D'Deridex will always be my favourite Romulan ship, and one of Trek's most iconic designs.
Such a cool ship design! My favourite in Star Trek! The Romulans are so interesting, it's a shame they're mostly just squandered as an unoriginal bad guy race.
My go-to starship. Powerful to be a frontline warship but capable of long term covert operations as well. The ship is also large and adaptable enough to cover a huge range of mission types when acting as the center of fleet operations or alone on missions requiring high endurance.
The Romulan D'Deridex and Valdore class warbirds are my favorite Star Trek ships. As awful as Nemesis is, it at least provided us with an awesome Warbird and the Scimitar, which I think is the best villain ship of the franchise.
The Battleship Yamato Universe equivalent of this would be the space submarine, a ship that literally hides and navigates in subspace and only pops out when it needs to directly observe real space or attack ships in real space.
Makes you think: all those episodes of TNG where they are back and forthing over the neutral zone, but how many of these ships would actively be inside Federation Space having a cheeky look around?
I like the design of the D'Deridex Class Romulan Warbird, it is every bit as dangerous as it looks. You know when one of these things decloaks in front of you, you're gonna have a bad day.
i have to say, the "Quantum Core" behind that panell was my biggest disapointment in Star Trek when you had the cool engine rooms on the star fleet given that it was just a short scene, but why had CBS cheap out on a Matte Painting so it could look like ... anything Glad that STO used the chance to give them a really good looking room
@@GothicLightingQueen oh yeah, a more complex Room or CGI would be out of the question for a one of set, that why i've gone with the "cheap and simple" solution of a matte painting. Compared to a Warp Core, the Singularity looked quite boring
- Federation asked Ni'Var to investigate alternate methods to Dilithium. - So you offered to restore and perfect Quantum Singularity Drives right. -.... -RIGHT?!
Something I always wondered was what would have happened if one of these ships had been stranded in the Delta quadrant in place of Voyager. This ship would have mopped the floor with the Kazor, and the Romulans wouldn't have been afraid to go on the offensive either.
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The sound of a GCS' phaser array letting loose disagrees.
The sound of a Romulan Warbird decloaking is one of the most iconic sounds in all sci-fi.
of course! imagine if you couldn't propagate sounds in vacuum, that would ruin the fun
@@Dan-uf2vh Sure, but Trek isn't hard sci-fi. It's not soft sci-fi either, but there are plenty of things in Trek that are so beyond the capabilities of today that they are effectively space magic.
Sounds in a vacuum in sci-fi are common enough that criticizing it is like criticizing every other franchise that isn't 100% realistic.
You say that and I’m a Trekkie but I really can’t place the sound, I had to look it up.
It’s certainly a nice sound but there are far more iconic sounds in Star Trek; sliding doors, torpedoes firing, phase beams.
Yup right up there with the sound of proton packs charging up
@@Dan-uf2vh First of all space isn’t a true vacuum. Secondly electromagnetic shear forces that would also marginally affect you at your current point in space while close to them would cause a sound to emerge - you know - within your suit. You don’t know how a fictional visual cloak works. So don’t assume what it sounds like in space.
_Always have an air of caution around those who march beneath the Raptor's wings, for they are allied with the shadows and the void._
The D'Deridex is what happen when you mix a battleship with a submarine and put it in space. A deadly effective combination.
Thats why I always loved Romulan ships, sans the shoulderpads and too many officers standing on the bridge.
@@Cdre_Satori I like the Nemesis era uniforms the best, they dropped the shoulder pads but kept the cool checkered pattern..
@@Cdre_Satori The Romulan D'Deridex class Warbird/Battleship in a truly symbolic, extremely powerful, sneaky, SLEEK, and ICONIC Warship design that would in my opinion be a worthy opponent to the Imperial Star Destroyer (despite the two ships being from two very different franchises.
Does your nickname derive from a Hogwarts School incantation?
Loved that last bit showing space where the D'Deridex COULD be.
But how many are there
"There are 14 D'Deridex warbirds in this image. None of them can be seen."
"...to be unknown is to be unconquerable"
It's extremely significant that neither Starfleet nor the Klingons (much less any other power in the Milky Way) have any idea how many Warbirds the Romulans have.
They have an enormous Empire and can't get along with less than say one to each ten subject worlds to keep them subject to their Empire. The fleets we saw in the Dominion War must be a small fraction of the power they could bring to bear at any one place ff they truly felt the need.
Or, more likely, they have far fewer ships than they have fooled us into thinking they have.
its Sun Tzu the master at doing more with less through deception
@@silentdrew7636 Federation Plot Armor Is Strong In Star Trek- Calculating the Azz whooping the Dominion was giving the Federation In The first 4 months of the War, manpower and resources should have stretch to their limits. I mean even the Cardassins were losing troops at 500k every few weeks, Federation and Klingons should have been in the Millions by the 3rd week, The Romulans join in the Final months after all.
The D'Deridex warbirds used by the Tal Shiar to attack the Founder homeworld were illegal warbirds and were built using Tal Shiar "black" accounts. The Romulan government didn't even know they existed until they were on their way to the Gamma Quadrant.
The D'Deridex was one of my absolute favorite designs in all of science fiction. Huge and horrifying and powerful, with just enough of a familiar feel that it leaves you uneasy at the sight of it. The sounds of the cloak, the music when they were in TNG.. just absolutely brilliant concepting from start to finish.
Thank you for sharing your analysis with us!
yes,
"Those who march underneath the raptors wings"
are a truly fascinating society and people
Please, please, please consider making a video about the federation's Akira-class starship.
It's beautiful, my favourite and hideously underrated and underrepresented outside of it's circle of fans.
Plus one was named Thunderchild, that's got to curry favour alone!
Watch the episode about the NX class and turn your monitor upside down.
@@jack1701e
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The D'Deridex Warbird is one of the best ship designs in all of science fiction!
One of the most beautiful ships ever designed..
The D'Deridex-class - one of the coolest, most powerful, and the most inefficently designed ships ever.
It’s one of those ships that tries to do everything. Mainline Battleship. Troop Transport. Cargo Transport. Stealth Vessel.
@@Gothic7876 I'm talking about that incredibly unnecessary spacing between warp nacelles.
That space has to deal with Warp technobabble. Warp nacelles need line of sight of at least 50%. Fewer obstructions allow for faster speeds.
This is one of the few ship designs that is not rendered Warp incapable by losing a pylon.
Yes, the Defiant does not follow these rules.
@@optimuseprime7887 But on the other hand it makes the ship look very big without needing the enormous amounts of resources if it were to be solid. And from a romulan perspective. The idea of having a bigger ship that looks more menacing is perhaps more important then a smaller solid ship. Because we do know that romulans like to be intimidating.
And gives their ships an unmissible targeting profile.
The greatest ship in the Trek universe, even without cloaking it's visage and weapons are perfect. The Romulan Empire is awesome
The greatest ship in the Trek universe is the Enterprise.
While I love this warbird, it's hard to top the Enterprise-E.
For me the coolest ship is the Klingon bird of prey generations version or the little one out of deep space 9 wat captain sisko flyns around in defiant class
One of my favorite ships in Star Trek. I love the D'Deridex war birds, and I especially love using them in video games.
This video isn't just another video describing the ship's dimensions and capabilities. The background that's given puts another well layered texture on it. Well done.
Such a beautiful ship, my favorite ship design in Star Trek.
This was easily the most interesting design in Star Trek outside of the Federation ships that appeared more than once.
As for newer designs, yeah, the way I see it the Romulans are even worse off than the Cardassians now and are still struggling with resource and manpower shortages. That, and we've seen that smaller ships are the way to go in the Dominion conflict. Big Ships should only be used occasionally and are just big targets :cough: Odyssey :cough:
pretty much like what happened irl whit bog boat battleship have been replaced whit cruiser and destroyer to escort there carrier seeing that bigger ship are just more expensive and easier to hit
Romulans. The Dark Elves of Star Trek. I love their ships, technology, and philosophy.
Actually never thought about it that way. Thanks for that comparison.
I’ve long called Vulcans space elves (for their attitude as much as the ears), how did I not link Romulans to dark elves all this time?!
Genuinely made Romulus more scary than any episode of Star Trek ever did! Especially that final comment, great stuff!
One of my favourite starships in Trek
The Romulan Star Empire is one of my all time favorites and the D'Deridex is an awesome and thrilling example of all the things that make the Romulans such interesting antagonists. Marvelous investigation by the Institute, look forward to the next one!
These kinds of videos is what made me like this channel in the first place and it seems that starting to watch Star Trek was a sensible decision. Looking forward to these.
As a warship it's effective as to pound said target with damage and still take it. As a ship wise it's a Galaxy class romulan style. The main roal of this ship is fighting with power projection to make you fear it. Is there any doubt that I would fear this ship no. Well done video and content.
I don't know about you guys, but the Romulans always struck me as being the Dark Elves of Star Trek.
Just because they're pointy-eared.
Sure, because the Vulcans are the Elves - longer lived older race, haughty, seen as "wise", extra bonuses, an air of looking down at others.
My absolute favorite Star Trek ship. And probably the reason why I love the Romulans.
A truly iconic ship from the Star Trek mythos. One can only imagine how long it might be before someone decides to forcibly unite the Romulan successor states into a new empire, complete with an armada of D'deridex Warbirds suddenly emerging out of nowhere as a symbol of Romulan rebirth.
Singularity drives do use on dilithium according to a diagram made by one of TNG's technical designers. They also mine dilithium on the Romulan moon Remus.
None of the shows or movies say they don't use dilithium.
a small matter/antimatter reaction is needed to spark the quantum singularity also most regular equipment/shuttlecraft/personal vehicles still use dilithium
they don't use dilithium to maintain the singularity.
@@toomanyaccounts The shows/movies never say that.
According to one of the tech guys on TNG, dilithium is used in the drive to focus the energy created by the singularity. So yes it isn't used the maintain it, but it is used to help distribute the power created by it.
@@brothersgt.grauwolff6716 Dilithium is used to focus the energy created by the the singularity according to one of the tech guys on TNG. So the singularity isn't maintained by dilithium, it is still used as part of the power system.
It doesn't mean they don't use Dil in other capital ships, runabout-scale craft, shuttles, fighters, etc.
Actually, the D'Deridex has no impulse engines. According to the designer, they were simply forgotten the show. My gues was always, that the singularity they use for power also provides a different kind of sub-light propulsion, which does not need any emission mechanism. Some kind of gravitation devise.
If we extrapolate from other scifi that uses gravity drives such as Babylon 5. They generate a small gravitational field off the bow of the vessel, so instead of pushing the ship forwards with engines, the ship simply 'falls' forwards for as long as the drive is active. Which would be a very Romulan way to propel a ship invisibly and without showing off any impulse signature.
@@VallornDeathblade Exactly.
The great Romulan Warbird is awesome! Beware the might of Romulus
The D'Deridex was designed by Andrew Probert to be 1,341 meters or slightly more than twice the Galaxy-class starship's length.
Probert also wanted the bird head to pop off and fly around by itself, presumably while "Yakety Sax" played
Always loved the D'Deridex class, its design stuck with me through the years.
And kudos for the opening quote from the largely forgotten turn based strategy ST game, "birth of the federation"!
One of my favorite ships growing up. I had a large plastic model of it with buttons that would make either the cloaking or disruptor fire sound.
LOL, I remember that. A friend of mine had it, along with a Vor'cha and Enterprise-D that did the same thing.
I had the Enterprise-D…
Such a classic ship design 😊
My favourite Star Trek ship. I love that quote from Star Trek: BOTF. Romulans are the masters of bluff.
Perfect timing. I just started watching TNG again. Always nice to get some more info.
Love the playback speed reduction of the D'Deridex withdrawal from Derna along with the music at 1:38 - really shows the force projection aspect
Nice of you to release this alongside the launch of the STO anniversary alliance carrier based on the Dderidex
The outro gave me Goosebumps.. Another fantastic video & on my favorite Trek ship, besides the Scimitar. & an rare treat covered by my favorite Sci-Fi channel!
My favorite sci-fi ship of all time
I always imagined the huge space between a DD's wings could be used to house additional pods of various types and roles that could be slotted in. Due to the DD's mysterious nature we may never know.
I do not rember where it was but once I read that unique shape of romulan warbird is designed to contain powering singularity
Love the D'deridex!!!
It's my favourite trek ship
There is a bunch of similiar channels on UA-cam, but I would say nobody reached your level of tens and immersive presentation. Keep up the great work!
Thank you very much!
Don't forget the Remans who also were involved in the war used in 'The Most Violent Encounters' as mentioned by Commander William T. Riker of the Sovereign Class Enterprise E and 'Cannon Fodder' as commented by Captain Jean-Luc Picard.
If I could command one ship in the entire Star Trek universe, this is it
I like the Valdore(screw the half assed Picard designs though), but the D'Deridex will always be my favourite Romulan ship, and one of Trek's most iconic designs.
I love seeing the Double-D's!!
The D'Deridex is one of my absolute favorite starships!
(Obligatory 'we're being scanned!')
Such a cool ship design! My favourite in Star Trek! The Romulans are so interesting, it's a shame they're mostly just squandered as an unoriginal bad guy race.
My go-to starship. Powerful to be a frontline warship but capable of long term covert operations as well. The ship is also large and adaptable enough to cover a huge range of mission types when acting as the center of fleet operations or alone on missions requiring high endurance.
The Romulan D'Deridex and Valdore class warbirds are my favorite Star Trek ships. As awful as Nemesis is, it at least provided us with an awesome Warbird and the Scimitar, which I think is the best villain ship of the franchise.
That was a great discussion. You made the emotional urgency very real.
A truly iconic warship, and one not belonging to the goody-goody Federation.
Beautiful Video and Beautiful Presentation
Love the Birth of the Federation quote
I think the D'Deridex would perfectly classify as a Multirole Battleship
This is one of the coolest ships in all Trek.
Was that the Romulan intro of Birth of the Federation? Oh Templin, you know my heart's desires ...
YESSSS a ship breakdown!
that Birth of the Federation Quote at the start *NICE*
This was outrageously enjoyable.
Great ship, great video and very much looking forward to building one for you!
D'Deridex's are probably some of my favourite ships in Star Trek.
I love the quote you used from the intro of the romulan campaign in star trek tng birth of the federation
Nice Iconic Starship!
nice colab with Spacedock!
Imagine a future Star Trek series:
"Why is this critical world so under-defended?"
*Dozens of Warbirds decloak.*
*Stunned silence.*
Knowledge is power, guard it well.
The Battleship Yamato Universe equivalent of this would be the space submarine, a ship that literally hides and navigates in subspace and only pops out when it needs to directly observe real space or attack ships in real space.
Really enjoyed hearing the lines from the old Botf game in this episode. I still play it once in a while
This was great. I loved the quote at the beginning. Was that from the “Birth of the Federation” game?
The design states it all. Power has arrived.
I have the Hallmark series of Star Trek Christmas ornaments, and the D'deridex is my favorite of them.
Federation captains when empty space starts speaking Romulan:
That intro was such a deep cut. As flawed as it was, I loved Birth of the Federation.
Definitely one of the most unique designs of Trek. Nothing that shade of green should be so imposing.
absolutely love the opening
Makes you think: all those episodes of TNG where they are back and forthing over the neutral zone, but how many of these ships would actively be inside Federation Space having a cheeky look around?
Good video. Thanks. Jolan Tru!
Absolutely badass ship!
I like the design of the D'Deridex Class Romulan Warbird, it is every bit as dangerous as it looks. You know when one of these things decloaks in front of you, you're gonna have a bad day.
8:14 Where is that from ? Ive never sen that clip before.
Excellent video, well researched as always. xx
I"ve always been interested in their singularity drives. Wish there was more information on them.
Thank you so so much!
Thank you the English subtitle.
Nice video. I will respond with the Klingon adage "That which does not grow,dies"...
One of the most badass spaceship designs in science fiction history.
This dude’s geeky dorky voice as the narrator makes me think he does dope cosplaying on the side outside of the Templin Institute
i have to say, the "Quantum Core" behind that panell was my biggest disapointment in Star Trek when you had the cool engine rooms on the star fleet
given that it was just a short scene, but why had CBS cheap out on a Matte Painting so it could look like ... anything
Glad that STO used the chance to give them a really good looking room
Could also be that they didn't have the budget, room space or time to build it in that episode
@@GothicLightingQueen oh yeah, a more complex Room or CGI would be out of the question for a one of set, that why i've gone with the "cheap and simple" solution of a matte painting.
Compared to a Warp Core, the Singularity looked quite boring
Paramount back then, not CBS
@@JCtechwizard oh sorry, my bad
Imagine a first order-esc reveal of the true romulan fleet
Would be wild
ah the D'Deridex Class one of two star trek ships I actually like the look of
My absolute favorite ship in all of Star Trek. I love to pilot it in ST:O
D'deridex warbird is still my all time favorite design for a starship.
This was beautiful.
- Federation asked Ni'Var to investigate alternate methods to Dilithium.
- So you offered to restore and perfect Quantum Singularity Drives right.
-....
-RIGHT?!
Remans.. never heard of them :p
Beautifully designed craft
The "head" section of the Warbird always reminds me of the faceplates from the old Silverhawks cartoons. 🙂
Something I always wondered was what would have happened if one of these ships had been stranded in the Delta quadrant in place of Voyager. This ship would have mopped the floor with the Kazor, and the Romulans wouldn't have been afraid to go on the offensive either.
Great narration.
Outstanding video! 👍
Terrific video. 10/10.