406sbc GM
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- Опубліковано 19 кві 2024
- Disclaimer on mistakes I made in video.
406 small block Chevy's.Have 3.75 inch crank.
I did not mention the engine has Approximately 9.5 to1 compression with iron ,186 cast# heads and a 9.73 to 1 with aluminumT.F. heads
406 currently for sale With trick flow heads as seen on this video $5800 I deliver to most of the USA for A additional$500 . text 816 213 7204 if interested Roller cam upgrade Available.
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That a perfect street motor. People forget torque is the winner on the street in a daily hot rod.
Yes, I believe that's correct. You can put this engine in a car with a 3.08 gear and it would be great. /A lot of fun to drive
@@dzperformance7360 and 50 pounds lighter
thats big at race track you unbolt inner fender wells on that Camaro
Thats almost 200 pounds that Camaro will kick ass
Big HP Dont mean squat Torq makes GForce
any good racer will shift while he has tork lin last gear you stand on but its faster to shift up if you have gear
I have 97 6 speed stock lt1 3130 no gas and driver 3440
350 horse 420 torq 11 second Quarter mile
Camaros Hook like no other I beat 600 horse cars all day and twice on friday
most let off peddle or keep it pegged
Half clutch to clear linkage and lift 1 inch and hit it
almost doubles the tork and gforce I hit 690 ft pounds of tork
with 3-4 shift with gutted cats and stock exaust manifolds
that are ported out Stock 2 1/2 inch 2 into 1 muffler 2 outlets
its factory Hooker Superformance system.
TB is 807 cfm
lol just took on new cobra with crank what a gutless piece
sound like indy car but cant get to high rpm before i am in other state lol
SBCs Forever
The modern heart shaped combustion chamber in the Trick Flows do not work well with dished pistons.
Never even thought about that ,,thanks for sharing that information
I’d really like to see the newer Trick Flow 200cc double humps on a 406.
Message trick flow and tell thim to loan me a set and I'll do it
You would? Why?
I thought this test / comparison was very interesting. I really like walking through different components/combos to understand what the fruits of your labor would be for each option.
Thanks for your positive comment
Great video! Great combination. 👍 Forget the critics. You do you. Your channel is awesome and it's about discovering things that work well for different applications. It's not for everyone. There are other channels out there to stroke people's egos. Too many magazine heros back in the 90s and early 2000s that made everyone think making 400 HP with a 350 and Vortec heads was child's play. It's not. A dyno cell is not the real world. The correction numbers you showed prove that! Thank you for showing those! Keep on keepin' on, man! You're doing great! 👍
You made my day with that comment!!!.Thank you so much
Great results. Keep testing. I want to buy a motor from you someday. 😎😎😎😎⚡⚡⚡⚡👌👌👌👌👌👌👍👍👍👍
I wish I could build all my friends Chevy' hp out there
Good information
Makes me want to rebuild the '70 L46 engine that's been in storage for the last 30 years
Thanks for doing this. I think your 3 hours per head of porting work made the 186 much better than stock. The test would have more significant I think if they were bone stock.
You're right I discount my head porting abilities because I never took official training, and yes my experience tells me the 186's would have been killed if they were bone stock
Cool test. Those heads flow well all the way to .600” lift. The cam definitely held the motor back. I had these heads CnC ported by Straub technologies to 200 cc’s. With an off the shelf xtreme energy comp cam I made 525 with my 406. I had mine ported before the 200 cc ere available.
I would love to see what it would do with a slightly more aggressive cam.
The aftermarket heads would probably take off and shine with a bigger cam
Well it's for sale, you can own it and do just that
The real question is how much room for improvement do the TrickFlow heads have?
What would 3 hours of work in each of those heads net you? Widening and raising the short turns and opening up the pushrod pinch? 3 hours in aluminum could be some major changes!!
I know they are CNC chamber and "bowl blend" but the valvejob usually leaves a pretty good "Step" above and below the seats. That alone is a major killer.
The Cam shaft peaked the 186 double hump out at5800 rpm but TrickFlow deserved more Cam which would've peaked at about 6500 would've equate to between 450 to 500 hp going with a bigger Cam.
I like the Trick Flows but, my personal opinion is that the 175CC runner is a little restrictive for a 400/406. Especially when you get up in the 5500 RPM range. I think that a cheapo AFR Enforcer 195CC head would make 15 to 20 HP more with the same combo and money spent. However, these Trick Flows would work like magic on a smaller cubic inch engine. My two cents worth...
I believe you are correct
But in defense on testing these 175cc heads on a big smallblock,, I knew I was going to use this small flat.Tap
. cam and it wasn't going to produce a lot of horsepower but really good tq.
Small cam here folks, almost dinky. Custom Mike Jones cam surely would've woke it up. But decent power for that small of an off the shelf camshaft.
how can anyone be mad with what parts you put on your moter its yours dude
I appreciate the support !! but I'd had to delete a few comments on that test, because they felt like I wasted there two minutes watching my vide.
Good work 👍
Wow that's quite the correction.😯😎👍
Every race part I have is for sale, 408 sbc with performer heads, 292 angle plug heads, 375 turbo Trans now a 400, 823 ls3 heads, Kinsler fuel injection plus pump gas or alcohol
Amen brother I would sell any of my motors right now
That's exactly what I expected out of the test.
You and me are the only ones that expected that!! Everyone else read the magazine that says +70 horsepower
@@dzperformance7360 We both have seen more than most people I think about cylinder heads and small block Chevys.
@@dzperformance7360 The only magazine articles that have real testing is from DV. He has done alot of work and testing especially on the 186 castings.
@@dzperformance7360 good power out of that cam. You could put a 236/242 at 108 lca. And sure it would make more but that's probably what your are after. Yours makes some good low-end torque. Great for a heavy street car or truck.
It's actually just what I had in stock.When I put it together,, is the way it happened
Great video and enjoyed the knowledge. The 186 heads maybe hard to find, but what about the 492 heads? Aren't they the same as the 186, and I see them around. Same head but GM's off the shelf model from the same years. I have a set on a 1970 LT 1 now. Thanks
Not sure
Great test
Thank you!
I would love to know how the 2 sets of head would do with a better cam. I am really contemplating. Getting my self a set of these trick flows.. Awesome video, thank you.
Thanks.
For the insightful comments,, I'm beting with a bigger Cam the spread between the two sets of heads would get wider,, The trick flows would do better and the factory heads would fall off.
Very cool 🤙 I'm building a 406 now for a turbo tpi setup which will eventually get the 462 sbc
Great heads bud, not sure for boost, I have a set of 200 cfm 292 heads intake and valve covers, 292 heads came on 69 4 speed stingray, heads have 40k miles on them, they totaled everything they were in
@@ChrisMcCutcheon-wj2pp The 292 "turbo" castings were never on a production vehicle, ever. Nor do they hold a candle to even the cheapest offshore sold, except perhaps anything marketed by Slowmaster.
@@yarrdayarrdayarrda 292 heads off a 69 375 hp 327, stingrays, solid lift were 200 cfm
The 400’s claim to fame was 400 ft pounds of torque with a 2 barrel carb in 1970. The hp was 245-265 gross hp. That’s not really impressive.
For comparison the 1970 Camaro Corvetter LT-1 350 made 360-370 gross hp.
In 1974 the Z28 350 9:1 engine made 245 hp net, so still around 330hp gross.
So for the 400 with some stock small valve heads to make 330 hp gross, pretty decent. But it had a 770 carb and better intake and probably headers on the dyno.
And the aluminum heads probably flow more than that small cam is allowing, that’s why you are only seeing 430hp.
The double heads made 422 hp. Pretty decent since they are just cleaned up heads with minor port work.
I really appreciate you taking the time to show us all the info!! 3 hrs on a gasket match and a general cleanup?! Wow your a ninja..lol
Another great vid! I’m so curious, just like in your bbc vids, how much better the torque could be with a proper sized header for the application!
I'm going back to the shop today and going to do another video on a different 406 sbc I got that i'm fond of, just because we've had such good conversations about this one
@@dzperformance7360 We’ll be waiting impatiently! Good work bud!
I think the test is very realistic
@@Dan-d7n thanks for your input, thanks for watching
One thing not taken into account- aluminum heads require a point more compression to make the same power and require the same octane. Both are good heads though.
Didn't know that
@@dzperformance7360 You didn't know that because it's not true
Yeah that's what I was thinking
@@dzperformance7360 Engine Masters proved that on a specific episode. I highly recommend it. Great educational video. 👍
The trick flow heads with 175 cc intake ports probably made more than a set of overrated Vortec heads.
That’s a small port, not much bigger than stock.
Still a good street engine.
If you want more rpm’s, get a 350. You could spin the 400, but stock rotating parts in 350’s will go past 6500 all day long.
Upgrade the 400 with better rods and you can have rpm’s.
Amen to the vortec being overrated,, I'm not gonna argue.They're good heads, but so many people believe they're just the fix .Everything/ best horsepower on a small block possible..
Well heck I've got a set of 186,461& 462 heads just sitting😮
Sounds like you got some good parts laying around
Did you mention what intake your running? I missed it.
Edelbrock ESP
Ñeeds 210 or 220 heads for sure...
Yes it probably put out better power, I'm just testing what I got on the Shelf
Hey nick what was the compression of that stock bottom and how far down in the hole was the piston?
He goes through that, including mentioning the cc volume of the stock pistons. Just listen
@lollipop84858 not one thing was said about the compression the ccs was the heads and combustion chamber volume nothing said about compression ratio
About 9.5 to 1
Pistons on this block , even after surfacing the block,, is about. 022 in the hole
The cam is way wrong, you can run a stock crank stock bottom end to 6k rpm no problem. This engine can make 515 hp 530 torque with nothing more than a cam swap
The cam was just what I had on the shelf,
Yes your statements true, I'm just testing what I got in stock.Most of the time I don't want to go buy parts
3 3/4 stroke not 4 3/4, even with the stock bottom end that engine should make close to 500 . Those heads don't flow enough for a big engine, if you would have went with 200cc heads even world sportsman's 8t would be much stronger.
Yeah, I wasn't going to record the whole thing over again.There's a correction in the Video description, Most of the world know what I was talking about.
And the five hundred horsepower you're exactly right for a hydraulic roller cam, This is a flat tappet hydraulic.
@dzperformance7360 I could be off, but I wouldn't expect it to make 500 horse with a 224° at .050 cam in 406, especially with those heads. I don't think you could with any head and that duration really.
Nearly every engine can make more power with bigger heads than this. 🙄
They werent stock 186 heads either.
No they weren't stock
Nobody said they were stock
186 double humps arent hard to find. At all.
I've been having trouble finding them,, I'd pay three hundred dollars for a nice core set,
If you
Got some and you're in the Midwest.Contact me
I'm from around the Quad cities area, I had some luck finding them. #186, 041, 461, 461x, 462 and 1 set 292 angle plug.