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Review - CarPro Reset vs Bilt Hamber Autofoam - which is the better cleaning snow foam?
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- Опубліковано 4 бер 2021
- I'd love to simplify the number of products I use when cleaning a car. CarPro Reset is a phenomenal LSP safe cleaning shampoo that can be foamed....but is it as good as Bilt Hamber Auto Foam? Let's find out.
Kit and Products in this detail:
- Bilt Hamber Auto Foam amzn.to/3bPLbvJ
- CarPro Reset amzn.to/3MRtEnk
- Autobrite Direct Foam Lance
- Nilfisk C130
- Direct Hoses 15m hose and Short Gun
Filmed on a Pixel 4 XL with Moment 18mm wide lense and Rode Videomicro.
I wish all introductions were as succinct as yours. Short, sweet, and to the point.
Thank you for that, I appreciate you taking the time to comment on top of what you said 👍 I still refuse to ask people to "like and subscribe" in the opening of a video, it drives me mad when people do that.
I like to go pre-wash with CP lift in a snow cannon and then CP reset using the two bucket method. Works well that way.
I love CP Reset as a shampoo, absolutely mega. And the combination of Auto Foam first and then that...yup, nothing comes close. I've only had one experience of Lift and my impression was that it doesn't do anywhere near as good a job as autofoam, but some further testing is required before making a conclusion there, I could have got dilution ratio's wrong etc etc etc
Im so glad auto foam is available in the USA now. I was so tired of the high foam products that are only good to post pictures on social media but didnt clean at all.
Agreed. You always have to add some sort of APC to them to get any cleaning at all.
Do you have most of the Bilt Hamber range available to you?
@@SuperchargedLlama fortunately yes, i get it via the clean garage.
@@Deviantsoundz if you ever need a new APC I can't recommend Surfex HD enough! We don't have Purple Power here so maybe that's as good, but in general I've not found anything get close to it.
@@SuperchargedLlama I got surfexhd, autofoam, their soft clay, auto wash and korrosol also trying out some koch chemie products
@@Deviantsoundz man that sounds like a gooooood haul there! I've been eyeing up some of the Koch products too, what did you go with there?
Bilt hamber auto foam is just that good my go to pre wash on every valet. Nothing beats it
Agreed, and not just "for the price" either. I guess the downside is how much product you use to get 4% PIR...but then the other ones just foam a lot and don't really clean, so they aren't really worth it.
Full-time valeter here… BH Is great as a time-saver unless something stronger like citrus or TFR is really needed 👍
Try rinsing your prewash off bottom to top though when there’s traffic film to remove - no doubt I’d get criticism from the weekend warriors for that but if you have an actually dirty vehicle then that’s the best way. Then a quick chase back down from the top with the jet wash ensures no grit left for the contact wash while ensuring as much traffic film as possible is removed
Can you explain the rationale behind rinsing bottom to top? I can't work that one out in terms of benefit; unless it's the idea that there's more water flowing over the bottom part so it's rinsing away more of the grime?
Sorry, as I was typing it I was thinking that could well be the answer. Tricky when you're mobile too isn't it as you're balancing water usage from your tank.
@@SuperchargedLlama firstly, you can see where you’ve been much easier
Secondly, if you apply a prewash at your chosen dilution and start rinsing from the top then the solution at the bottom where it’s dirtiest is either being diluted or taken off the panels by the rinse water coming from above, rendering it next to useless
Give it a go 😀
@@MrMcol2012 I've got a neighbour with a white car that would be a great candidate. It's the first car I did on my channel actually and it hasn't been done since.
It comes across on the camera very well, when it zooms in at the end it even looks like you trails dirt from the carpro side onto the BH side, I would have thought that the CP would have performed much better from the way paracetamol about it, but then it is designed more for the contact wash from what I’ve seen.
Excellent comparison though.
Yeah I think you're completely right, and I guess the dilution is far lower than the BH too, but you'd never use it at the same dilution because it would be so expensive?
Cracking wash shampoo though, I really like using it.
@@SuperchargedLlama yeah the car pro is on my “next purchase” list as I’ve got the BH auto wash at the moment, when they all run out I’ll be trying different brands that I’ve reviewers use, touchless and reset are the next 2 to try out, although I can’t see touchless being as good as auto foam for removing the road film.
@@WEZ4136 it isn't in my experience. I will say that Garage Therapy Snow V2 is the sweet spot. Almost as good as AutoFoam all the time (matching and exceeding it in some cases), better than Touch-Less and a thicker foam, which is more satisfying.
Thank you for this comparison. Before watching I’ve just … pre-washed with CarPro reset rather than BH AF! Oops hehe.
You can know that you didn't do anything harmful, that's good isn't it?
Reset is a lovely shampoo, regardless of it's cleaning power (it isn't that strong really, just a good shampoo, I wouldn't say it's especially potent - I thought it was previously, but now I've tried some of the more aggressive shampoos I now think of Reset as a good maintenance shampoo).
always find my b/h works better than anything else. snow foam with a bit of surfex hd works really well as cleaner. also saw the di filter is back in use. i have added a sediment and carbon filters to mine but haven't had the chance to use yet.
The sun made an appearance for the day I did this (I did another car previously and that was in the sun - that's next Friday's video) so the DI came out, I needed to use it again anyway for the resin's sake.
I completely agree with the Surfex HD in the snowfoam suggestion. When I really need more power I pre-spray the panel with Surfex at 20:1. It's a similar story with putting Koch Chemie Green Star in with their Gentle Snow Foam isn't it?
Bilt hamber AF is high alkaline so it's going to have more cleaning power. What some people don't realise is alkalines eat away and degrade rubber and plastic trim especially with frequent use. Hence why pH neutral foams and shampoos are ideal for regular use. It's not all about cleaning power but all safety for all exterior surfaces
@@KiranPatel-fk1pg you're right but it's not too much of an issue with AF as it's still a very mild solution at 4% PIR. Of course it's a good idea not to let it dry out of course but this stuff is generally a lot milder than what you get in the automated car wash machines. Apex Detailing have a recent video of a Purple Dodge Charger Shaker that's got the exact sort of damage you're talking about on the black vinyl stripes.
Another useful video , I think BH autofoam will take something really spectacular to topple it . Loving the short lance , where did you get it ?
My short lance and hose kit came from Directhoses. However, there customer services verges on the none existent so I can't recommend them. QWashwers are supposedly far far better in this regard, are are in2detailing.
@@SuperchargedLlama Thanks for the info , I got my hose reel setup from direct hoses but I've got the standard longer lance which can be a pain when the cars parked next to the fence . Luckily I don't live far from Direct hoses so I can call in when things get back to some normality .
Carpro Reset isn’t a dedicated snow foam solution though. Carpro Lift is.
I Just noticed I hadn't replied, apologies. You're absolutely right of course, but I was curious if a more potent shampoo could replace a snowfoam and therefore reduce the number of products you carry. Potentially I guess, but it'd be incredibly expensive to use Reset as a foam to get proper cleaning abilities. I wonder if Garage Therapy's Decon Shampoo fairs any better in that regard.
I'm also keen to compare Lift to the new formulation of Gyeon's Foam too, and put that up against Auto Foam...and maybe Garage Therapy's own snow foam.
@@SuperchargedLlama Yeah, I guess it comes down to how dirty the vehicle is to determine how much chemical you require in the cannon.
I personally use Reset as a pre-foam and of course for contact wash. 30ml:1000ml is sufficient for my application in a cannon. LIFT is where it can get expensive though. 100ml:1000ml. But I only use it once a month considering I wash my vehicle weekly.
Good comparison. More of these please!
I've got a comparison between Malco Break Off and Bilt Hamber Autowheel coming in two weeks! The issue with product reviews is the investment cost in the products - but I do want to do something for "cleaning snow foams" so I may well invest for that one 👍
I have to disagree. Reset isn’t a dedicated pre-foam solution. Carpro actually states this. It’s a contact wash solution. A proper comparison is Carpro Lift.
@@JJS432 I know what you're getting at, I was just curious to see if a contact wash solution that cleans so well and can be applied by foam lance (which CarPro say is possible) meant it would work as a pre-wash too. As we can see, it's about as effective at that as Lift is (or Gyeon Foam) at adding any real cleaning power to the foaming process, so it'll just lift off any loose surface debris. Great at the moment when you've got a tonne of dust and pollen around, less useful in the winter I find.
@@SuperchargedLlama Do a side by side with Lift and Bilt Hamber.
@@JJS432 I haven't got any Lift left (try saying that three times fast) 😂 but I do have some Gyeon Foam so I could do that one. Subjectively I've found that Lift and Gyeon Foam are very similar and much more like Valet Pro PH Neutral foam that I used to use, so a fair comparison I think...what do you reckon?
I definitely think there's a place for those products, if you're washing weekly and have a well protected car you very likely don't need the power of Autofoam...but then again I just run that at 2% PIR in those cases as it still helps clean a bit more.
good vid, cheers mate
Bh is a pre wash, carpro is a shampoo 😊
Correct! A great shampoo as well, but nothing like as potent as a proper pre-wash. I was seeing lots of people using it for both steps, which didn't seem like a good use of it.
Great video again, thanks! So on a ceramic coated car is BH AutoFoam safe to use in the foam canon, and then CP Reset in the bucket for the contact wash? What is the best combo on a ceramic coated car?
Yup Autofoam is perfectly safe through a foam canon, just don't go above 4%, PIR and you'll be fine. If you're unsure then run it at 2 or 3%. CP Reset is a lovely shampoo in the bucket, loads of lubrication. And you don't need to use it every time either, most of the time you just want a pure shampoo like Gyeon Bathe (not Bathe+) or Bilt Hamber's Auto Wash. I've forgotten what CP's one is but tbh every brand seems to have one. And that would be where I'd go really, the best combination is the mildest one, and occasionally a deep clean of your coating using something like Reset.
@@SuperchargedLlama ahhh I see, brilliant! Thanks for the detailed response again. I really appreciate your opinions and insight mate. ;) Ill grab some CP Reset and some BH Autowash and check the PIR on my BH AutoFoam.
@@cb8491 you're very welcome. Let me know how you get on.
What coating the vehicle you'll be washing have on? Or, if it's not coated yet, what will it have?
@@SuperchargedLlama I actually looked at a few, and was going to use the Gyeon Q2 Syncro but ended up settling on the Avalonking Shield ix which has great reviews. Reason I switched is I don't have inside space, so wanted something that is easy to apply and cures quickly. I'll use a car cover for the first 48 hours after application. The car just came back from a respray of most panels, the other panels were corrected and polished so need to get it coated ASAP really... But then this endless bout of "spring showers" came lol. So I haven't done it yet :(
@@cb8491 I feel that! With the fact that you've just had a respray i wanted to pass on some advice I'd been given and seen multiple times. Wait a month before coating; you want to leave the paint alone to properly cure before coating it (even with a wax) so that any gases/materials in the paint don't affect your coating, or so that the coating doesn't affect the paint.
BH snow foam is so good I now just use a standard shampoo from Carchem. It makes zero difference which I use as most of the dirt is already removed.
Yup I'm the same. Whenever I see people putting citrus on and then foaming over the top of it I always think "but....you could just use AutoFoam". And I tell you what Garage Therapy Snow Foam v2 at 3% PIR is even better than AutoFoam!
@@SuperchargedLlama ok that’s interesting, how much better can it get? Haha. I now use BH Touchless, it’s cheap and effective. I’m tempted by that other brand though
@@pfgdetailing the review will be in a few weeks I think, I'm waiting for one more car to do film the side by side comparison (and this one is always really grubby, so it'll be a fantastic final test candidate).
@@SuperchargedLlama I’ll make sure I watch it!
You must make comparsion Polar HP shampoo and BH autofoam.
In this sort of format?
I found only magifoam comes close to BH autofoam, only downside is it stays around forever.
A blessing and a curse isn't it. A good thick foam is nice in theory, the longer it dwells the longer it's got to work....but it can be unhelpful too.
I've heard Wax Planet 8 Below is also a great cleaning snow foam but neither are better than autofoam...just "as good as".
@@SuperchargedLlama Totally agree with you, only positive I can think of is using it in summer. You have more time to go around the car as its dwell time is longer.
can you use bilt hamber auto foam as wheel cleaner aswell if you are waiting for a product to arrive in post?
Yup you definitely can. It won't be as effective as a dedicated when cleaner of course, but it'll be far more effective than plain water, as well as being more effective than the water in your wash bucket. I'd still apply it at the same 4% PIR though - of course you could apply it neat...but would you want to do something that's completely untested, with something that's pH 13 in the bottle?
@@SuperchargedLlama i normaly use garage theropy decon for wheels thas arriving monday the bilt hamber auto foam is the only thing i got here i have a clints car this afternoon 🤦🏻♂️
@@garethdavies7564 probably worth nipping to Halfords or the like to get a more dedicated product, although I assume you've got some APC?
@@SuperchargedLlama i got no apc at all i think you are right cheers 👍
Hello...
I heard that the Reset shampoo both in the pre-wash and in the wash with the buckets, it is only for ceramic tiles, otherwise it will remove waxes in paste or spray sealants, is it true ?!
An interesting question. I can only answer based on my experiences and I can say in these instances I have round Reset really rejuvenated Optimum Opti-Seal and even Turtle Wax Rinse and Shine, both of which are sealants. I've not used it on carnauba based waxes so I can't comment there.
I'd say it's a given that it works well with ceramic coatings. A lot of sealants these days have very high chemical resistance so I can see them standing up to Reset with very few problems as it isn't too aggressive. It's probably not something you need to use on every wash if it's a car you clean frequently as well, but I will say that it's fantastic on really dirty cars.
@@SuperchargedLlama because my doubt really is this ...
I don't have a ceramic coating, but sometimes I change the wax, now I have seal in shine from the turtle wax, later on I am considering putting the fusion ....
I wash my car once a month, I do pre-wash and wash whenever I wash the car ...
My doubt was whether Reset would remove paste wax or ceramic spray waxes with every wash I do with it, as I always wanted to wash it with Reset every time I wash the car once a month, including pre-wash with 1 : 10 ....
@@eduardofolha8415 Seal and Shine is known for its chemical resistance so I can't see Reset having a detrimental effect on that over any other type of shampoo (if anything, it may help). I can't say for sure but I would suggest it is worth trying; there's nothing in your situation that makes me think it shouldn't be okay.
@@SuperchargedLlama ok thanks, so i will reset and not worry, in every wash that i do to the car i apply shine again, because it is easy to apply ...
Now, which shampoo would you recommend to clean protected cars ?!
@@eduardofolha8415 something that's a pure shampoo with no additives. Gyeon Bathe, Auto Glym UHD shampoo, Bilt Hanger Autowash etc etc
There is a major breakdown here...you need a new cannon, orifice or both. Both products will foam extremely well. The cleaning ability of reset is simply at another level.
You're quite right, there was an issue with the lance. It was actually where the fan blades are at the end of the nozzle. That took some tracking down as you can imagine as I expected it to be all of the things you mentioned.
However, the test is still valid as both product had the same problem to face, Reset is a fantastic shampoo but it isn't as effective as AutoFoam as a cleaning snow foam. It does foam up better than my lance was showing here of course, I quite agree, but then the same can be said of AutoFoam.
A manufacturer would most likely never make a bucket wash soap with heavy cleaning ability. Simply put, heavy cleaners require additional safety measures. Most people don't use rubber gloves/skin protection when they're doing something as simple as washing their car. Heavy cleaners are likely to cause serious skin irritation if you're constantly dunking your hand in the bucket. There's a reason why Bilt Hamber Auto foam isn't marketed as a bucket wash soap