In the case of Woodie, his curse has nothing to do with the Constant. Walter was trying to track the Werebeaver in their home world, indicating that Woodie had been cursed before he was pulled into the Constant. In addition, it's implied that Lucy transfers from Axe to Axe and only followed Woodie to the Constant after he crafted an axe there, there's an axe that Lucy abandoned in a log and covered in moss at Woodie's abandoned cottage somewhere in Canada.
Werebeaver that Walter tried to find could be just an urban legend. And Woodie could've became werebeaver according to legend only after entering the Constant just like Wigfrid became Valkyrie. So its not that certain
@@JukanellaWigfrid didn’t become anything upon entering the constant, she’s just playing a role. A newspaper article in her rework trailer implies her real name is Miah
I wonder -what- exactly that is though, since we have talking tool tech thanks to the Shadow Reaper, and the whole Moon Magic (trademark) messing with his curse. Personally, I feel it was a case of some Constant-influence (be it shadow/lunar) seeping out- somehow.
@@BiddoBamss well, we can assume that alter is the ACTUAL moon in the real world, so he would have a proper affect when considering lunar were transformations but shadow's don't really have an affect on woodie, he only gets ignored by shadow creatures, which can very easily just be charlie saying "ignore him' instead of it being a proper affect
Wolfgang’s loading vignette says “He considers the day he joined the survivors to be the moment his luck finally took a turn for the better.” and he considers the other survivors his friends, seemingly even Wendy, despite being afraid of her. I think he’s staying. The monsters are scary but he’ll face anything for his new friends. On top of that, Wes has absolute garbage can luck, but he actually likes being in the Constant to try to cheer up the others. Though Terraria Wes also sounds fun. Dying is half the progression in that game, ESPECIALLY in Expert & Master mode. He’d fit right in.
I absolutely love the idea of Wes escaping the constant and ending up in Terraria, it’s both hilarious and maybe he could find some heart crystals and get stronger for a change
i once emailed klei in a manic high begging for them to tell me that webber and warly can go home to their family. The cons of not taking your ssri's are apparently emailing the support team of a canadian gaming company.
Wagstaff probably: alright survivors, you helped me, I'm helping you, here's the portal out of- Warly: *BOLTS PAST ALL THE OTHER SURVIVORS* I'M COMING HOME MA!
Literally. All the other survivors: “Finally, we can go back to the real world. It’s been a pleasure knowing you al- wait where’s Warly?” Warly, already outside the portal and on a boat to the Caribbean: “Screw all of y’all and au revoir Constant!!!”
It absolutely broke my heart when I activated the archives for the first time as Warly, headed to the sealed portal and saw his dissapointment of it not being a functioning way back home...
Since most merms likely came from goat people, Wurt is probably their only hope to regain intelligence after the transformation. That lil' angel is literally the savior of an entire cursed race .
I think Wes would stay if there are still people left in the Constant I feel like it's his dream come true, actual friends, people he can torme.. I mean entertain, make them laugh He was an absolute nobody in a real world
Yeah, Wes is a good samaritan at heart. He ended up in the Constant because he tried to save somebody from Maxwell's portal, it makes sense for him to try and help the other survivors. I'd still like to run with the idea that he just ends up in some other dimension though, like Terraria, because Wortox "accidentally" sent him there.
i feel like thats something Wolfgang would abide with as well, he's absolutely not leaving if he knows he's leaving someone to fend for themselves behind, he is the mightiest because he's got the biggest heart to look out for the littler, less mighty guys
I like to imagine that if the survivors were somehow able to find their way out of the constant, they would all end up in Wilson's attic at the original portal he built. I think it'd be sweet if they were all able to say their final goodbye's before parting and traveling back to their original homes. This is totally not just because I feel bad for Wilson and the fact he'd be all alone in the real world
I really hope the gang is able to enjoy their time together in a hypothetical future outside of the constant :) I'm sure they've all grown well attached at this point
@@rudequartzmy HC is that wagstaff struck a deal with some sort of wortox/krampus to provide a bit of there stolen goods from the constant in exchange for some stolen goods from the real world
To add on to the point about Willow, it is implied that she is impoverished, maybe even homeless. She was living in a massive communal orphanage, and her Gorge skin shows her as a "street peddler".
I found myself shouting in agreement when you asked for more Wanda lore. Seriously, I don't think we have gotten anything new since she was released 2.5 years ago!
I'm loving these character-centric videos. The characters have always been my favourite part of Don't Starve, and I'm glad to finally find a channel that spotlights them.
On the bright side if Wes ever DO end up in Terraria, hed at least become a god or have Wortox accompany him since wortox can travel in terraria canonically
Funny how you mention webber keeping the spider half as a pet, when I'm pretty sure the spider half is more mature than the human half. Although considering the constant's spiders aren't exactly the brightest, maybe webber's spider half is only like that because it's sharing the brain with human webber? Makes me wonder whether the spider would lose or retain its intelligence if the two were somehow separated
I'd imagine the spider part would still be able to recognize Webber's human half as a "friend." Not sure if the spider part could comprehend his parents or friends, that would be interesting to watch play out.
@@BiddoBamss Some of Webber's dialogue is the child, some of it is the spider, so there appears to be some level of identity separation between the two.
way I see it Webber's spider half and human half would both be separate psyches of the merged one so if they were taken apart the result wouldn't be the same person
Yeah, i think that our friend focused too much on the kid part of webber and forgot about the spider part of weber, even more when his last event with his family was literally him being shunned away for being a literal monster kid.
Y'know what? Thanks for reminding me :) I honestly totally forgot the whole spider part of Webber is as much of a part of him as the boy part is. In that case, it would probably be a 50/50 shot on stay or go. Or: Go, but bring all of the spiders to the real world oh my gosh theres spiders everywhere
I think it’s a bit weird that Maxwell was able to make ‘deals’ with survivors like in Wigfrid’s short or is implied with Webber’s short, but he had to make Wilson build a portal. It’s like Maxwell had to use a loophole to get Wilson there, like someone didn’t want him
@@groundbird4904WX playing nice with alter's silly plant child just to gain the moon's favor and desperately failing to restrain their disdain for him cause they dont wanna blow their chance for cool moon powers like
Here's my theories/headcanons for what the Solo Don't Starve Characters would choose Walani - I feel like, knowing her, she would just want to leave simply because living and surviving in the Constant is too much effort for her. Walani would gladly return to the real world and go back to her mundane and chill life. Woodlegs - If we're going by my theory that Woodlegs is Don Quixote pirate edition, I'm placing my bets on staying. He feels at home most at the sea, so he would much rather stay on the waters of Shipwrecked. Wilbur - There's really no telling what he wants due to his lack of quotes. But if we're going by my theory that he was a circus monkey and was teased with freedom by Maxwell, he would likely want to stay with his loyal Prime Apes, not batting an eye to the real world. Wilba - The obvious answer is "She doesn't want to leave her momma, so she would stay" but the thing is, Wilba loves to adventure. Wilba even seems to recognize stuff outside of the Hamlet to some extent or at least isn't confused by them (Namely Maxwell's Tooth Trap, Ancient Pseudoscience Station, Dragonfly, Volcano Altar) so I wouldn't completely doubt it if Wilba wanted to go to the real world purely because she's curious and wants to explore it. Wheeler - Wheeler is kind of in the same boat as Wilba. On one hand, I wouldn't doubt it if she "had enough adventuring for one day" and wanted to return home, but she seems to eager on exploring the place that I wouldn't doubt it if she chose to make the Constant, or at least the Hamlet, her permanent home, so I'm leaning towards Staying. Warbucks - He doesn't seem all that interested in staying, especially since he claims to have a manor back in the real world. I didn't bother looking too deep into him though because, well, it's Warbucks Wagstaff - He's not even in the Constant.
@@microwave_T.judas1997 A fictional Spanish novel about the titular Don Quixote, a crazy man who read so many chivalric romances that he chose to become a knight. The book is very well known, particularly the scene with the windmills. ("Sancho, I see the giants!") I believe Woodlegs is a schizophrenic who believes that he is a real pirate, which would explain why he knows about more modern things, such as frozen waffles.
Just remember, woodlegs had a pirate crew on the constant until they all became monkeys, so my man is definitely liked. Warbucks is dead lil bro, he's in hell now
@@JubileeCaptcha When does it mention that? I never found any source saying his pirate crew got turned into monkies. (The Powder Monkies seem to be their own thing.) After all, who's to say his crew wasn't just part of his imagination too? Granted, there's nothing to prove that either. Tough to say really. As for Warbucks? I just thought I'd include him anyways for fun, that's why I didn't talk too much about him.
I think one of 4 things would happen: They find a reliable way to travel between worlds They bring their love ones to the continent They receive a chance to see their family is ok They receive a way to communicate with their loved ones
Or maybe the eventual winner of the Shadow-Lunar conflict rips apart the Constant for good and then _maybe_ a portal will somehow open to take them to the real world.
@@HumanoidDerpling the shower side seems to be ruling over the constant so I don’t think it would have any reason to tear it apart and even possibly is the constant itself
I do ask for a video on the relationships of the survivors, who's friends, who tolqorates the others, who genuinely enjoys the others company ect ect. I think that might be fun
This list is a little inaccurate because it says in Wes’s description he wouldn’t change what had happen to him on the day he went to the constant, it also said “there is a part of him that is happy to be in the constant with the other survivors”. And “who could be in greater need of cheering up than these poor souls” suggesting that he likes making them smile too. I’m not trying to have leave a hate comment but him leaving is simple untrue!!! Also Wes’s luck isn’t BECAUSE of the constant, it’s because he broke an invisible mirror in the beginning of his short.
As far as i know, Woodie, his curse and his talking axe have nothing to do with the constant, so he leaving depends on whenever his life outside the constant would be any better, maybe he enjoys battling walking trees idk
Wanda isn't cursed with it, the reason she ages so quickly is BECAUSE she wasn't caught. They don't have the weird magic of the constant KEEPING THEM from aging quickly. I don't think it impacts anything, but I believe that if she were to leave, she would age like anyone else. (also It'd be in the present day because time flows super quickly)
I don't really like the idea of survivors preferring to stay in the constant if they could escape, even the more wacky ones. I don't see Willow preferring the be haunted by nightmares and giant seasonal monsters if that allows her to burn a couple of trees I see WX learning to tolerate humans, Wurt learning about her origins and how being a Merm is not her whole personality since merms are a curse from the gorge, Wortox becoming attached to the group and following them to their world, and Wormwood becoming some sort of pet for the group, tagging along wherever they go The only ones I see staying are Maxwell and Winona just to get Charlie away from this whole mess that wasn't even her fault, we always forget how Charlie was just a nice girl who wanted to help Maxwell before becoming the constant queen
According to "Willow" loading screen,Willow wanted to be in The Constant. "Willow always regarded entering The Constant as a new beginning,it allowed her to leave everythind behind,after all." So she probably would stay. Help i just got to the moment where they were talking about Willow in the video and the exact same loading screen lore text was in it.
I've always wondered if all these people aren't already dead. Their lack of pupils makes everyone appear somewhat corpse-like. The Constant would be a purgatory, caught between the battle of light v darkness.
Hi been watching your videos a lot glad to see someone talk about the characters for once :D Maybe Willow would be ok with leaving if she can like hang out/live with her friends. Like if all human survivors went back maybe she can stay at Wigfrid big ass mansion that seems like enough place! Got a fire place too. Wilson's House seems neat too pretty far away from any towns and such she could still do some arson there >:) Fun ideas, should draw some ideas of that eventually
Wagstaff can travel to and from the constant since in a recent animated short he s not a hologram like in all the others ( also he entered right before Winona according to an obscure sketch of the winnona animated short)
I heavily disagree with the Wolfgang. While he's scared of Constant stuff, he finds there also many things that he genuinely like, he likes his friends/co-survivors too, and he was doomed at his job in the main world, and also include that it was a shadow magic that gave him superhuman strength. Constant gave him more than take, so he definitely stays
My aim for this video was a hypothetical situation :) In reality, I don't see any of the survivors leaving any of the others behind, ESPECIALLY Wolfgang. He's a big lug who loves and cares for all of the survivors. It just would have been a short video if I just said "They ain't leaving." :D I really should have mentioned that in the video, so I apologise! I do agree fully :)
so far we have no real clue of what is wanda's deal, how she made those clocks? where she learn that? how old is she really? would leaving the powers of the constant behind kill her? we also dont know exactly what would happen to the constant, perhaps charlie stay as queen of the constant like some form of "there must always be a lich king" so the powers of the shadows remain but under control, wanda being able to access it with a limit, overall if leaving the constant means the powers and curses they bare are gone too? wanda cant leave if her clocks stop working or she dies.
Maybe she got the shadow clockwork pieces from some technology that was "infused" by the shadows, like the camera in Wagstaff's short, or maybe even (as par my Wagstaff theory video) one of his radios that may or may not have been using Constant-based materials :)
Wanda has been in the constant before, her backtreck watch only brings her to the places she's been in, and her time pieces are made of things that can only be found in the constant My theory is that she arrived there when she was (actually) younger, met all the survivors (that's why she recognizes them, even if they don't recognize her), made all her clocks and somehow escaped That's why the shadow creatures were so mad at her, she "stole" their power for her own benefit Also we've seen her clocks working outside of the constant, even the ageless watch to make her younger, so she wouldn't die
@@Dvd_d8 point being, are the powers part of the constant and if that is gone will they stop working? Or can for example willow continue using her fire magic outside the constant if the constant itself is gone? Sure the clocks worked before Wanda was in the game per se, but so did the magic tricks Maxwell pull of with the codex. If Wanda can leave the constant with the powers yes, if leave means the constant is gone but so are the powers...then that's dire for her, it is like the video point of Webber not being part spider if he leaves, that assumes the constant side is removed or detached
To be fair, it was less "Disowned by his family" and more "HOLY SHIT THERES THIS MONSTER IN OUR HOUSE GET OUTTA HERE" I don't think they knew it was their child until after the whole ordeal
You can’t say that without thinking what Webber’s parents thoughts were the moment they finally chased the human sized spider away only to realize their child was gone afterwards.
@@BiddoBamss at the same times, parents ins the 40 would send their children to get lobotomised if they where a bit to hyperactive. How do you think they would react to their son being a spider monster? If he is lucky and and has the opportunity to actually talk to his parents AND have them listen he might get to live the rest of his life locked up in their basement while they are scared as hell of him.
@@Fettucci most likely eaten or taken by the spider monster for all they care. It was early XX century, Webber was lucky to have lived as long as he did
Hot take, feel like knowing maxwells dialogue in the og dont starve (even though this mightve been desperation from being trapped on the nightmare thrown for so long) might be 50/50 on leaving with or without Charlie. While yes we know they were EXTREAMLY close we also know his desperation from the og game and his dialogue when trying to escape epilogue island that hes tried many times to escape prior. Though like I said it may have been a totally different mindset as being trapped on a throne for eternity would probably make a person be anywhere but there. Personally I agree with the Charlie take but just some food for thought.
I'd describe wanda less of being captured and more as ending up in the wrong place, I say this because in her short she ended up in the constant after using a broken watch, unlike others who were taken by the shadows. I also personally think the reason she ages is also because of her entering the wrong way.
5:21 *Wes after leaving a dimension of hellish reincarnation into another realm of hellish reincarnation:* ua-cam.com/video/UWHwZUvsPcc/v-deo.htmlsi=HHAFEnH9Hn6LMQK3
id love to see videos about the non dont starve together survivors its kind of a shame that most the hamlet and shipwrecked fellers are basically just banned from being lore relevant
bruh did anybody notice that in the video parts Biddo Misspelled Wortox to wox? anyway i dont mean to critisize i just like to find tid bits of details like this. Amazing video once again my friend!
For WX-78, hard disagree. He was put here by force by Wagstaff, and I think at the very least he wants some revenge against that inferior being of flesh for stopping his plans. For Woodie, as indicated in Walter's short his curse was pre-existing. As for Lucy, there's no indication that she has anything to do with the constant as he starts with her and his description seems to indicate Lucy herself is a bit of a mystery to the other survivors. I don't think he has any reason to stay, besides his curse not bothering anyone else. That's all I had to say though, I agree with you on all the other points. Also, Wurt best girl.
Okay, so a little SAD theory about Warly. If Warly's cooking made his mother remember who he was and such. Wouldnt 1 year of that mean his mother is dead? Thinking realistically. She's an old woman with little mobility. (probably) and a human normally can only survive some days without food. If warly wasnt there to feed her, Who would be there?
While I think the best thing for Wendy is Leaving. I don't think she would leave. She has a trauma even before coming to the Continente. It just worsen it with all the things there. For her to leave she would need first therapy or a arc of overcoming the death of her sister and the fact she alone now (something imposible to do with the literal sister in ghost form helping her, and beeing there for her)
Walani: Staying, this place is chill for her Wilbur: Staying. Monkey mmm bananb..a... Wheeler: Depends on if they've had their fill or not. They are an explorer afterall, and once they're done with this place, it's onto the next for her :) Wilba: Possibly stay, Possibly go and explore more of the real world instead of being forced into a life of royalty, despite her parents wishes.
i honestly feel like a lot of them don't have much to return to, webber probably feels his parents hate him, wilson seems the type who pushed others away before coming to the constant, one of the few I can really see leaving is warly, dude has his mother. but wilson? i don't think he has any loved ones back home. wigfrid? she was a one hit wonder who is consumed by her star role.
Lorewise, isn't the Constant just immortality, like you canonically respawn after you die, I feel like a ton more completely average people would pick immortality, AND completely awesome superpower. "Seems like many people got all sorts of cool and fun powers from the shadows,in exchange for being a pawn in the game"
I would not agree about wolfgang if you looked at the lore hints in the loading it says that and i qoute The day wolfgang joined the survivors was the day life turned for the better id say if most people would leave he might join them but if more stayed he would totally stay
Another really fun video here dude! You've been on a roll with these DST lore/theory vids they are very fun to see! Hope to see more interesting ideas come from ya in the future. And personally, I actually would like to hear some of your thoughts on the non DST/solo exclusive survivors as an extra if you're down with that.
I think woodie would leave, lucy is said to exist in the real world just like his curse. Willow now has a group to care for her, and she is shown to be quite liked among them, so she has a reason to stay as well. Maxwell was trapped in the constant for god knows how long and is shown to dislike surviving. Wendy i say would stay... maybe... She has a rather nilihistic view on life, she is definitely choosing abigail over her family. Warly would prob be depressed when he goes back home and find a skeleton on the chair, but he leaving, yeah. Wanda i think would leave even if the shadows were still after her. wx is the trickier, he hates humanity, but his lust for revenge seems to be strong. WURT PLEASE LEAVE WURT PLEASE LEAVE WURT PLEASE LEAVE WURT PLEASE LEAVE WURT PLEASE LEAVE
Since I (and many others) ship Wilson and Willow, I wonder how their relationship would affect if they want to leave or stay. Even if it doesn't change their final decision, I'm sure they'll miss each other.
Well, ship is fine, but like treating like canon, uh... Also, I would try to leave and find the person EVEN if they are in 1910. Staying in the Constant for bitches? Hell nah
As I understand it, BiddoBams' headcannon is that there is more than just friendship between Wigfrid and Willow... Simply put, BiddoBams thinks they are lesbians and love each other
So... They are canonically lesbians and love each other, am I right? If so, then I don't care, since I don't play them. If not... then I don't care either
In the case of Woodie, his curse has nothing to do with the Constant. Walter was trying to track the Werebeaver in their home world, indicating that Woodie had been cursed before he was pulled into the Constant. In addition, it's implied that Lucy transfers from Axe to Axe and only followed Woodie to the Constant after he crafted an axe there, there's an axe that Lucy abandoned in a log and covered in moss at Woodie's abandoned cottage somewhere in Canada.
Werebeaver that Walter tried to find could be just an urban legend. And Woodie could've became werebeaver according to legend only after entering the Constant just like Wigfrid became Valkyrie. So its not that certain
@@JukanellaWigfrid didn’t become anything upon entering the constant, she’s just playing a role. A newspaper article in her rework trailer implies her real name is Miah
I wonder -what- exactly that is though, since we have talking tool tech thanks to the Shadow Reaper, and the whole Moon Magic (trademark) messing with his curse. Personally, I feel it was a case of some Constant-influence (be it shadow/lunar) seeping out- somehow.
@@BiddoBamss well, we can assume that alter is the ACTUAL moon in the real world, so he would have a proper affect when considering lunar were transformations
but shadow's don't really have an affect on woodie, he only gets ignored by shadow creatures, which can very easily just be charlie saying "ignore him' instead of it being a proper affect
@@saehtnySthat also means Wormwood could leave the constant
Wolfgang’s loading vignette says “He considers the day he joined the survivors to be the moment his luck finally took a turn for the better.” and he considers the other survivors his friends, seemingly even Wendy, despite being afraid of her. I think he’s staying. The monsters are scary but he’ll face anything for his new friends.
On top of that, Wes has absolute garbage can luck, but he actually likes being in the Constant to try to cheer up the others. Though Terraria Wes also sounds fun. Dying is half the progression in that game, ESPECIALLY in Expert & Master mode. He’d fit right in.
Their only link to Terraria is Wortox though?
Fair point, but if/when they do find a way back, more than half of his new friends will be leaving.
I feel like WX would want to return just to get revenge on Wagstaff, then go back to the constant.
Main Character energy
Absolutely.
Oh for sure
you beat me to this comment 🥲
I absolutely love the idea of Wes escaping the constant and ending up in Terraria, it’s both hilarious and maybe he could find some heart crystals and get stronger for a change
I mean, they had the crossover, there is no good reason it could not be canon.
Knowing him they’d all be heart boulders
So he starts in no traps seed?
i once emailed klei in a manic high begging for them to tell me that webber and warly can go home to their family. The cons of not taking your ssri's are apparently emailing the support team of a canadian gaming company.
Did they respond?
Wagstaff probably: alright survivors, you helped me, I'm helping you, here's the portal out of-
Warly: *BOLTS PAST ALL THE OTHER SURVIVORS* I'M COMING HOME MA!
@yes_and_so_what very weird thing to say
Literally.
All the other survivors: “Finally, we can go back to the real world. It’s been a pleasure knowing you al- wait where’s Warly?”
Warly, already outside the portal and on a boat to the Caribbean: “Screw all of y’all and au revoir Constant!!!”
It absolutely broke my heart when I activated the archives for the first time as Warly, headed to the sealed portal and saw his dissapointment of it not being a functioning way back home...
Since most merms likely came from goat people, Wurt is probably their only hope to regain intelligence after the transformation.
That lil' angel is literally the savior of an entire cursed race .
I think Wes would stay if there are still people left in the Constant
I feel like it's his dream come true, actual friends, people he can torme.. I mean entertain, make them laugh
He was an absolute nobody in a real world
Failguy to bestie :) I like that outlook!
Yeah, Wes is a good samaritan at heart. He ended up in the Constant because he tried to save somebody from Maxwell's portal, it makes sense for him to try and help the other survivors. I'd still like to run with the idea that he just ends up in some other dimension though, like Terraria, because Wortox "accidentally" sent him there.
i feel like thats something Wolfgang would abide with as well, he's absolutely not leaving if he knows he's leaving someone to fend for themselves behind, he is the mightiest because he's got the biggest heart to look out for the littler, less mighty guys
I like to imagine that if the survivors were somehow able to find their way out of the constant, they would all end up in Wilson's attic at the original portal he built. I think it'd be sweet if they were all able to say their final goodbye's before parting and traveling back to their original homes. This is totally not just because I feel bad for Wilson and the fact he'd be all alone in the real world
I really hope the gang is able to enjoy their time together in a hypothetical future outside of the constant :) I'm sure they've all grown well attached at this point
Fun fact, the existence of webber at all means at least 1 person (wagstaff) has a way to go between the constant and the real world on command
other then Wortox, that is
@@rudequartzmy HC is that wagstaff struck a deal with some sort of wortox/krampus to provide a bit of there stolen goods from the constant in exchange for some stolen goods from the real world
Dude can travel to other dimensions
To add on to the point about Willow, it is implied that she is impoverished, maybe even homeless. She was living in a massive communal orphanage, and her Gorge skin shows her as a "street peddler".
I found myself shouting in agreement when you asked for more Wanda lore. Seriously, I don't think we have gotten anything new since she was released 2.5 years ago!
lore: she was THERE!!! when wilson threw an oar at a pig guard....
I'm loving these character-centric videos. The characters have always been my favourite part of Don't Starve, and I'm glad to finally find a channel that spotlights them.
On the bright side if Wes ever DO end up in Terraria, hed at least become a god or have Wortox accompany him since wortox can travel in terraria canonically
I want a wes npc mod
Same with Wortox
Wx being stuck with wormwood but tolerating him would be the best story. 😊
Funny how you mention webber keeping the spider half as a pet, when I'm pretty sure the spider half is more mature than the human half. Although considering the constant's spiders aren't exactly the brightest, maybe webber's spider half is only like that because it's sharing the brain with human webber? Makes me wonder whether the spider would lose or retain its intelligence if the two were somehow separated
I wonder how much of Webber is the human and how much is the Spider, thinking wise?
I'd imagine the spider part would still be able to recognize Webber's human half as a "friend." Not sure if the spider part could comprehend his parents or friends, that would be interesting to watch play out.
@@cktooshortwell I mean IN GAME the spiders they are tamed don't attack other players soooooo
@@BiddoBamss Some of Webber's dialogue is the child, some of it is the spider, so there appears to be some level of identity separation between the two.
way I see it Webber's spider half and human half would both be separate psyches of the merged one so if they were taken apart the result wouldn't be the same person
i feel like webber would at least be very split on going for the fact hes leaving his spider friends
Yeah, i think that our friend focused too much on the kid part of webber and forgot about the spider part of weber, even more when his last event with his family was literally him being shunned away for being a literal monster kid.
Y'know what? Thanks for reminding me :) I honestly totally forgot the whole spider part of Webber is as much of a part of him as the boy part is. In that case, it would probably be a 50/50 shot on stay or go. Or: Go, but bring all of the spiders to the real world oh my gosh theres spiders everywhere
@@BiddoBamss I think its better for both him and wurt to stay on the constant... for the safety of the world.
wanda be like: what if i didn't run? what if i wanted Them to kill me? **what if i wanted to see Them try?**
I think it’s a bit weird that Maxwell was able to make ‘deals’ with survivors like in Wigfrid’s short or is implied with Webber’s short, but he had to make Wilson build a portal. It’s like Maxwell had to use a loophole to get Wilson there, like someone didn’t want him
Its probably a retcon
Wormwod and WX being besties is so (probably not) real
It IS real!! I wish!!!
wormwood isn’t human or mammalian. Plus, they are a moonchild, so WX will make nice just for the moon association, probably.
The only reason they aren't besties is because wx hates poop and wormwood is all about it.
WHAT THEY HAVE IS REAL, NO ONE CAN CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE
@@groundbird4904WX playing nice with alter's silly plant child just to gain the moon's favor and desperately failing to restrain their disdain for him cause they dont wanna blow their chance for cool moon powers like
7:12 I KNOW WHAT YOU MEANT BY IT AND I STAND BY THAT POINT WITH MY WHOLE SOUL
Here's my theories/headcanons for what the Solo Don't Starve Characters would choose
Walani - I feel like, knowing her, she would just want to leave simply because living and surviving in the Constant is too much effort for her. Walani would gladly return to the real world and go back to her mundane and chill life.
Woodlegs - If we're going by my theory that Woodlegs is Don Quixote pirate edition, I'm placing my bets on staying. He feels at home most at the sea, so he would much rather stay on the waters of Shipwrecked.
Wilbur - There's really no telling what he wants due to his lack of quotes. But if we're going by my theory that he was a circus monkey and was teased with freedom by Maxwell, he would likely want to stay with his loyal Prime Apes, not batting an eye to the real world.
Wilba - The obvious answer is "She doesn't want to leave her momma, so she would stay" but the thing is, Wilba loves to adventure. Wilba even seems to recognize stuff outside of the Hamlet to some extent or at least isn't confused by them (Namely Maxwell's Tooth Trap, Ancient Pseudoscience Station, Dragonfly, Volcano Altar) so I wouldn't completely doubt it if Wilba wanted to go to the real world purely because she's curious and wants to explore it.
Wheeler - Wheeler is kind of in the same boat as Wilba. On one hand, I wouldn't doubt it if she "had enough adventuring for one day" and wanted to return home, but she seems to eager on exploring the place that I wouldn't doubt it if she chose to make the Constant, or at least the Hamlet, her permanent home, so I'm leaning towards Staying.
Warbucks - He doesn't seem all that interested in staying, especially since he claims to have a manor back in the real world. I didn't bother looking too deep into him though because, well, it's Warbucks
Wagstaff - He's not even in the Constant.
What is Don Quixiote
@@microwave_T.judas1997 A fictional Spanish novel about the titular Don Quixote, a crazy man who read so many chivalric romances that he chose to become a knight. The book is very well known, particularly the scene with the windmills. ("Sancho, I see the giants!")
I believe Woodlegs is a schizophrenic who believes that he is a real pirate, which would explain why he knows about more modern things, such as frozen waffles.
Just remember, woodlegs had a pirate crew on the constant until they all became monkeys, so my man is definitely liked.
Warbucks is dead lil bro, he's in hell now
@@A_Different_Name oh i know that novel just didn't know the English name
@@JubileeCaptcha When does it mention that? I never found any source saying his pirate crew got turned into monkies. (The Powder Monkies seem to be their own thing.)
After all, who's to say his crew wasn't just part of his imagination too? Granted, there's nothing to prove that either. Tough to say really.
As for Warbucks? I just thought I'd include him anyways for fun, that's why I didn't talk too much about him.
I think one of 4 things would happen:
They find a reliable way to travel between worlds
They bring their love ones to the continent
They receive a chance to see their family is ok
They receive a way to communicate with their loved ones
I hope so :)
Or maybe the eventual winner of the Shadow-Lunar conflict rips apart the Constant for good and then _maybe_ a portal will somehow open to take them to the real world.
@@HumanoidDerpling the shower side seems to be ruling over the constant so I don’t think it would have any reason to tear it apart and even possibly is the constant itself
I do ask for a video on the relationships of the survivors, who's friends, who tolqorates the others, who genuinely enjoys the others company ect ect. I think that might be fun
wolfgang wants to leave after fighting fuelweaver for the 1 millionth time💀 (if you dont know im talking about speedrunners)
woldgang would probably actually stay, as according to some sources, the constant is the best thing that has happened to him
Wormwood and WX being best buds is delightful
This list is a little inaccurate because it says in Wes’s description he wouldn’t change what had happen to him on the day he went to the constant, it also said “there is a part of him that is happy to be in the constant with the other survivors”. And “who could be in greater need of cheering up than these poor souls” suggesting that he likes making them smile too. I’m not trying to have leave a hate comment but him leaving is simple untrue!!! Also Wes’s luck isn’t BECAUSE of the constant, it’s because he broke an invisible mirror in the beginning of his short.
you forgot one of these characters: wood legs, wheeler, Wilbur, Walani, Wilba, and last but not least Warbucks.
what other characters should stay or leave ,let me know
yes, Wendy should go but I think wouldn't
Wes likes the Constant. It is much better then his life because he was able to make friends.
10:18 seriously, as a longtime wanda fan, PLEASE KLEI GIVE US LORE!
As far as i know, Woodie, his curse and his talking axe have nothing to do with the constant, so he leaving depends on whenever his life outside the constant would be any better, maybe he enjoys battling walking trees idk
Wanda isn't cursed with it, the reason she ages so quickly is BECAUSE she wasn't caught. They don't have the weird magic of the constant KEEPING THEM from aging quickly. I don't think it impacts anything, but I believe that if she were to leave, she would age like anyone else. (also It'd be in the present day because time flows super quickly)
I don't really like the idea of survivors preferring to stay in the constant if they could escape, even the more wacky ones.
I don't see Willow preferring the be haunted by nightmares and giant seasonal monsters if that allows her to burn a couple of trees
I see WX learning to tolerate humans, Wurt learning about her origins and how being a Merm is not her whole personality since merms are a curse from the gorge, Wortox becoming attached to the group and following them to their world, and Wormwood becoming some sort of pet for the group, tagging along wherever they go
The only ones I see staying are Maxwell and Winona just to get Charlie away from this whole mess that wasn't even her fault, we always forget how Charlie was just a nice girl who wanted to help Maxwell before becoming the constant queen
According to "Willow" loading screen,Willow wanted to be in The Constant.
"Willow always regarded entering The Constant as a new beginning,it allowed her to leave everythind behind,after all."
So she probably would stay.
Help i just got to the moment where they were talking about Willow in the video and the exact same loading screen lore text was in it.
In my heart I'd like to believe the majority of them all go home, I hate it when found family splits up at the end
I've always wondered if all these people aren't already dead. Their lack of pupils makes everyone appear somewhat corpse-like. The Constant would be a purgatory, caught between the battle of light v darkness.
thats on purpose i'm pretty sure, the constant does feel like an endless cycle but at the same time it may not be.
It’s just art style. See the willow and Wendy shorts that show them before the constant
Hi been watching your videos a lot glad to see someone talk about the characters for once :D
Maybe Willow would be ok with leaving if she can like hang out/live with her friends.
Like if all human survivors went back maybe she can stay at Wigfrid big ass mansion that seems like enough place! Got a fire place too.
Wilson's House seems neat too pretty far away from any towns and such she could still do some arson there >:)
Fun ideas, should draw some ideas of that eventually
I'd love to see that! Thank you :)))
Youre welcome :) @@BiddoBamss
4:17 this made me emocional ok
Wagstaff can travel to and from the constant since in a recent animated short he s not a hologram like in all the others ( also he entered right before Winona according to an obscure sketch of the winnona animated short)
Oh I would love if you did non dst characters too
Next time, I will :)
WX-78 is the constant's best enby😎
I heavily disagree with the Wolfgang. While he's scared of Constant stuff, he finds there also many things that he genuinely like, he likes his friends/co-survivors too, and he was doomed at his job in the main world, and also include that it was a shadow magic that gave him superhuman strength. Constant gave him more than take, so he definitely stays
My aim for this video was a hypothetical situation :) In reality, I don't see any of the survivors leaving any of the others behind, ESPECIALLY Wolfgang. He's a big lug who loves and cares for all of the survivors. It just would have been a short video if I just said "They ain't leaving." :D I really should have mentioned that in the video, so I apologise! I do agree fully :)
so far we have no real clue of what is wanda's deal, how she made those clocks? where she learn that? how old is she really? would leaving the powers of the constant behind kill her? we also dont know exactly what would happen to the constant, perhaps charlie stay as queen of the constant like some form of "there must always be a lich king" so the powers of the shadows remain but under control, wanda being able to access it with a limit, overall if leaving the constant means the powers and curses they bare are gone too? wanda cant leave if her clocks stop working or she dies.
Maybe she got the shadow clockwork pieces from some technology that was "infused" by the shadows, like the camera in Wagstaff's short, or maybe even (as par my Wagstaff theory video) one of his radios that may or may not have been using Constant-based materials :)
Wanda has been in the constant before, her backtreck watch only brings her to the places she's been in, and her time pieces are made of things that can only be found in the constant
My theory is that she arrived there when she was (actually) younger, met all the survivors (that's why she recognizes them, even if they don't recognize her), made all her clocks and somehow escaped
That's why the shadow creatures were so mad at her, she "stole" their power for her own benefit
Also we've seen her clocks working outside of the constant, even the ageless watch to make her younger, so she wouldn't die
@@Dvd_d8 point being, are the powers part of the constant and if that is gone will they stop working? Or can for example willow continue using her fire magic outside the constant if the constant itself is gone? Sure the clocks worked before Wanda was in the game per se, but so did the magic tricks Maxwell pull of with the codex.
If Wanda can leave the constant with the powers yes, if leave means the constant is gone but so are the powers...then that's dire for her, it is like the video point of Webber not being part spider if he leaves, that assumes the constant side is removed or detached
Biddobams is officially the best DST youtuber (consistently uses the correct pronouns for WX and ships Willowfrid.)
bro look at the time staps 💀
ah yes: WONDER
Webber was literally disowned by his family and had to own away, no way he is going back lmao
Yeah i really think that webber found a new home with the spiders... and also he can play with wurt, who seems to be alright with the spooder boi
To be fair, it was less "Disowned by his family" and more "HOLY SHIT THERES THIS MONSTER IN OUR HOUSE GET OUTTA HERE" I don't think they knew it was their child until after the whole ordeal
You can’t say that without thinking what Webber’s parents thoughts were the moment they finally chased the human sized spider away only to realize their child was gone afterwards.
@@BiddoBamss at the same times, parents ins the 40 would send their children to get lobotomised if they where a bit to hyperactive.
How do you think they would react to their son being a spider monster? If he is lucky and and has the opportunity to actually talk to his parents AND have them listen he might get to live the rest of his life locked up in their basement while they are scared as hell of him.
@@Fettucci most likely eaten or taken by the spider monster for all they care.
It was early XX century, Webber was lucky to have lived as long as he did
Depending on the circumstances surrounding being able to leave, my assumption would be Wes attempts to leave and ends up on the shadow throne.
Hear me out. Simply give Abigail a Taletell heart and walk out with both sisters.
Wormwood and wurt could definitely leave just like the spider but they would get captured and dissected as soon as anyone saw them
Wx and wormwood are besties for real yea yeasyes
Hot take, feel like knowing maxwells dialogue in the og dont starve (even though this mightve been desperation from being trapped on the nightmare thrown for so long) might be 50/50 on leaving with or without Charlie. While yes we know they were EXTREAMLY close we also know his desperation from the og game and his dialogue when trying to escape epilogue island that hes tried many times to escape prior. Though like I said it may have been a totally different mindset as being trapped on a throne for eternity would probably make a person be anywhere but there. Personally I agree with the Charlie take but just some food for thought.
If they can return to the constant later i think Walter when he fully grows up would someday return
I'd describe wanda less of being captured and more as ending up in the wrong place, I say this because in her short she ended up in the constant after using a broken watch, unlike others who were taken by the shadows. I also personally think the reason she ages is also because of her entering the wrong way.
5:21 *Wes after leaving a dimension of hellish reincarnation into another realm of hellish reincarnation:* ua-cam.com/video/UWHwZUvsPcc/v-deo.htmlsi=HHAFEnH9Hn6LMQK3
Imagine if wes ended up in terraria as an npc and his dialogue was just *miming*
I gotta say, you have very good opinions :)
5:24 good thing the Terraria world is mostly safe (at least before the ancient spirits awaken)
now do the shipwreck, hamlet, and warbucks next
id love to see videos about the non dont starve together survivors
its kind of a shame that most the hamlet and shipwrecked fellers are basically just banned from being lore relevant
me combing even in the motion with my father and uncles we need the deer now in the maghdeah
bruh did anybody notice that in the video parts Biddo Misspelled Wortox to wox? anyway i dont mean to critisize i just like to find tid bits of details like this.
Amazing video once again my friend!
For WX-78, hard disagree. He was put here by force by Wagstaff, and I think at the very least he wants some revenge against that inferior being of flesh for stopping his plans.
For Woodie, as indicated in Walter's short his curse was pre-existing. As for Lucy, there's no indication that she has anything to do with the constant as he starts with her and his description seems to indicate Lucy herself is a bit of a mystery to the other survivors. I don't think he has any reason to stay, besides his curse not bothering anyone else.
That's all I had to say though, I agree with you on all the other points. Also, Wurt best girl.
Wes vanity in terraria when
im over here youing my tube i got biddo on my bams right now im just watching this video im watching as fuck man im a viewer man like
1:54 my senses detect a caddicarus fan
I havent watched the video yet, I wonder where warly will be!
Okay, so a little SAD theory about Warly. If Warly's cooking made his mother remember who he was and such. Wouldnt 1 year of that mean his mother is dead? Thinking realistically. She's an old woman with little mobility. (probably) and a human normally can only survive some days without food. If warly wasnt there to feed her, Who would be there?
Wanda prob wanted a way to gather more clock pieces
While I think the best thing for Wendy is Leaving.
I don't think she would leave. She has a trauma even before coming to the Continente. It just worsen it with all the things there.
For her to leave she would need first therapy or a arc of overcoming the death of her sister and the fact she alone now (something imposible to do with the literal sister in ghost form helping her, and beeing there for her)
I think webber would somehow get wurt back into the real world and force the parents to adopt her
yeah i think webber is either not leaving or going to live with wilson, i dont think his parents would want him back as a spider
what about Walani, Wilbur, Woodlegs, Wheeler and Wilba?
Walani: Staying, this place is chill for her
Wilbur: Staying. Monkey mmm bananb..a...
Wheeler: Depends on if they've had their fill or not. They are an explorer afterall, and once they're done with this place, it's onto the next for her :)
Wilba: Possibly stay, Possibly go and explore more of the real world instead of being forced into a life of royalty, despite her parents wishes.
i honestly feel like a lot of them don't have much to return to, webber probably feels his parents hate him, wilson seems the type who pushed others away before coming to the constant, one of the few I can really see leaving is warly, dude has his mother. but wilson? i don't think he has any loved ones back home. wigfrid? she was a one hit wonder who is consumed by her star role.
Lorewise, isn't the Constant just immortality, like you canonically respawn after you die, I feel like a ton more completely average people would pick immortality, AND completely awesome superpower. "Seems like many people got all sorts of cool and fun powers from the shadows,in exchange for being a pawn in the game"
Ah yes. Wez
I feel like wx78 would leave for no other reason than to hunt down and kick wagstaffs ass
I would not agree about wolfgang if you looked at the lore hints in the loading it says that and i qoute
The day wolfgang joined the survivors was the day life turned for the better id say if most people would leave he might join them but if more stayed he would totally stay
I love watching some LLLOOOOOOORRREEEE videos
Another really fun video here dude! You've been on a roll with these DST lore/theory vids they are very fun to see! Hope to see more interesting ideas come from ya in the future.
And personally, I actually would like to hear some of your thoughts on the non DST/solo exclusive survivors as an extra if you're down with that.
3:55 mwickerbottom time
In all fairness terraria isn’t all that bad assuming the terrarian has already defeated moon lord it would be a pretty peaceful life for Wes
*GASP*
I called this in the last video! ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
Yes new dont starve video!
Wormwood and wortox both hit the nail on the head, the others are either complicated or just want to GTFO
I think woodie would leave, lucy is said to exist in the real world just like his curse.
Willow now has a group to care for her, and she is shown to be quite liked among them, so she has a reason to stay as well.
Maxwell was trapped in the constant for god knows how long and is shown to dislike surviving.
Wendy i say would stay... maybe... She has a rather nilihistic view on life, she is definitely choosing abigail over her family.
Warly would prob be depressed when he goes back home and find a skeleton on the chair, but he leaving, yeah.
Wanda i think would leave even if the shadows were still after her.
wx is the trickier, he hates humanity, but his lust for revenge seems to be strong.
WURT PLEASE LEAVE WURT PLEASE LEAVE WURT PLEASE LEAVE WURT PLEASE LEAVE WURT PLEASE LEAVE
YEEAHHH BIDDOBAMS UPLOAD
Since I (and many others) ship Wilson and Willow, I wonder how their relationship would affect if they want to leave or stay. Even if it doesn't change their final decision, I'm sure they'll miss each other.
Wtf
🤨 Ayoooo????
this just screams 2015
Well, ship is fine, but like treating like canon, uh... Also, I would try to leave and find the person EVEN if they are in 1910. Staying in the Constant for bitches? Hell nah
Nah, he'd GTFO
Du ju think that wee goona get some new charakters
Wdym wigfrid and willow……..
As I understand it, BiddoBams' headcannon is that there is more than just friendship between Wigfrid and Willow... Simply put, BiddoBams thinks they are lesbians and love each other
I hope Wagstaff leaves😠
I like wagstaff 😎
Same, I don't want freakstaff in my world making everything freaky 😰😰
Wagstaff was never in the constant to begin with
@@user-bn4cs6zu6r op likely means wagstaff's influence
why are you they/themming wigfrid?
why do you refer to wigfrid with "they"?
7:12 I understood immediately
So... They are canonically lesbians and love each other, am I right? If so, then I don't care, since I don't play them. If not... then I don't care either
@@dutchvanderlinde8467 they're canon to me...
@@gqaso I don't care
@@dutchvanderlinde8467 oh...kay?
RiP Wurt