Amazing Trick for Removing a Paint Run
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- In this video I will show you an Amazing Trick for removing Big Paint Runs in 2 Pac Paint. It is a method that is not well known but very effective.
If you doubt the technique, I have made a 40-minute video going into much more detail on the same method, see the video through this link.
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The Gunman what kind of filler was it again? I think I heard you say polyester, all I have in the garage is basic Bondo brand. Will i have to specifically go get polyester type?
The Gunma
Mr. Gunny please help, I don't understand how you don't burnthrough the clear on those sharp body lines at 1:00, any time I sand over body lines, even with like 800 grit, I go clean through it within 3 passes or less
@@boberson33 paint is too thin
This is magic i will keep this in mind chears gunny
Got three or four runs on a BMW I painted yesterday and put this trick to the test today for the first time. I was out of fine polyester filler so I used a 1K spot putty instead and it worked a treat. The guys at work thought I was crazy...until they saw the end result. Awesome tip dude. Thanks for posting this video!
Fun fact: spraying your first ever clear coat at night in the dark is a _bad_ idea, but on the upside I found this sweet channel!
lol, same!
lmao, same
Oh the good old days...I’ll be spraying again here in about a month
I like your attitude!!! People who don't take themselves too seriously, can more easily get down to serious business when they, admit folly, learn from it and share a laugh about it with others!
*Improvise, adapt and overcome!!!*
I cleared my roof at night with not much light with spray cans...I was spewing coz it looked milky after I finished but was all good in the morning 😊
Fantastic! Very simple yet 100 effective technique, those are the reasons i love youtube, not the stupid videos, but knowledge spreading, this is priceless
Well said..thank you
That was very cool of you to show us that. A lot of people are dicks about sharing secrets like that.
I hear you but sometimes shops ive worked at just hire dumb asses who don't give a fuck so why bother telling him stuff you figured out your self because you're not a dumb ass.Its a competitive area of work.
That is the smartest thing I've seen in awhile!
U neeed 2 geet out more
been painting for 30 years that's a great tip
Now this is how you do it. He correctly started with a relatively coarse grit (320) to get the runs out. Too many people start with grits that are too fine and end up either not getting the run out completely or rubbing thru the clearcoat. The worst the run is, the coarser the grit you start with and then work up from there...320, 600, 1000-1200, 1500 works perfectly. Some use razor blades initially, which also works if you are careful.
I like using razor blades, however, it takes a steady hand and not going to deep, or you're screwed.. If you're careful it can save a great deal of time..
I figured out in about 2min that I couldn't use a razor blade or I was screwed 😅
This worked great
Thanks for the tip man, worked great on a motorcycle fairing! Will say however to anyone doing it, you really got to watch your sanding grits and really make sure you go through the grits well or else you will leave small scratches when you polish it up. I find that 400 to take down most of the filler then moving to 600 to take the last bit off helped reduce sand scratches later when working with the finer grits before polish. Thanks again! :)
Wow, I've been a painter for over 35 years now, and I've always said there's something new to learn in the trade.
Thanks for sharing this trick, I'll be giving it a go the next time I get a bad run (hopefully never have to use this trick though) :) Gary (UK)
Man Ive been painting since 72, but I've never been afraid to learn. That is a great tip,man. Thanks from Cali. My son just taught me the cardboard trick to knock down deep scratches on plastic bumper covers. Great vid,thanks much
JOE BLOW Thanks for watching man, I'd love to make it over to the US one day maybe we can do some killer paintwork together :-)
Worked great, thank you. I've used the curved razor blade for many years and it was always nerve wracking. I tried this yesterday and it worked great , isolating the run and protecting the surrounding surface. Great thing to know.
Its great to hear you have benefited from this vid, You just made my day with that comment. Thanks for letting me know.
I've done this method many years back. it always works for me. I used to practice on old doors or fenders,run the crap out of them then fix them with this technique . you'll get the hang of it.
well done gunner!!
I would get it like 99 percent gone and burn through at the end LOL
Lol
I am glad I am not the only one thinking that!! watched the lot thinking I would burn through a good bit whilst focusing on a bad bit
i would just lob the laquer on and allow it to flow to the bottom of the panel
Always
I would end up with solvent pops in the run and have to respray, and then with the clear being so fresh, I would risk more solvent pops in the respray.
A true professional who shares his techniques and tips is a person with confidence and great self asteem. You did us all a tremendous service on this tip.....thanks
You'd get a top rate education apprenticing with this man.
Nice tip, thx. I have been painting for around 10 years. Never thought of fixing a run this way. Not getting many of them anymore. Keep your helpful videos coming, great job.
Chris
Yeah its not a very well known method so I thought I'd share, thanks for watching mate.
gunman is the best at removing paint runs you would never know that it happened. plus I like the hail repair job he did on his own car two thumbs up
Thanks man
your welcome mate your the top dawg on doing the job right me old school we would end up striping the pannel and start again which prove you can teach an old dawg new tricks..cheers
rock dawg
Gunman have you run into any color match problems Toyota 1E7 I can't get the color to blend it's coming out a shade lighter I used dark gray prime
rock dawg yea the problem is its Toyota 1e7, try using a 50/50 blend of transparency enhancer and your color ,this makes colors blend much easier,
This trick is old school.
I was tought the same one 20 years ago...
Keep up the good work👍
I've got bad runs on my bumber, everyone says it's better to get a new bumber but I'd probably still have to paint it since my cars old. This is something it looks like i can do myself. A big thank you mate.
Would have been nice to know this trick when I sprayed my first car 40 years ago. Thank you for sharing!
The difference between a professional and a skilled professional. I'm impressed.
There had to be at least 10 coats of clear on that car to not have rubbed through the edge of that door wet sanding with 320.
Thank you for your video. After watching it I spent a few hours removing paint runs from my motorbike frame that I had “professionally painted” & they’re all completely gone. Saved me the hassle & expense of having it shot blasted & painted again. 🤝
I know quite a few professional painters here in Jamaica that need to subscribe to your channel.
I'm slowly watching all your vids in preparation to do my car .
I've painted houses, cabinets, bicycles, rims, everything but a car and I definitely anticipate some runs so this is good knowledge thank you brother man
Not your fault at all. While frustrating to have to start over, it's been a great learning experience. Thank you!
My older brother and myself are both painters he told me about this trick ... he says it actually works I will definitely try
3:15 'NAH MATE YOU HAVNT SEEN THIS TRICK YET' LOOOL WHAT A LEGEND
I've got one run on the side of my Beamer that's been there since last year cause I've been dreading sanding it out. Thank you for revealing this magic trick!! David Blaine would be amazed!
thats a wow from me heard of this but your the first to to demonstrate ,thanks
Yeah its an awesome trick.
this guy has the best tips paints ever I watched the years ago on an episode of different spray guns now I work for a body shop all from watching the gunman videos
You can do this same trick with rattle can paint. With this you can start with 600 grit. Works great. I've got 25 years in the business and I love watching your videos.
what did u apply to the runs?
Just cheap black spray can paint. Put 4 to 6 coats over the run, let it dry completely and start blocking. 600 until the worst is out, then move to 1000, 1500, 2000. Take your time and you will be surprised at how well it works.
+BOBBY G so u don't use the glaze?
+Michael Hinchey also if I use the rattle can paint, it won't settle into the clear coat?
Not if it is fully cured. If it is dry enough to sand it will not hurt it. It's an old shop trick.
Iv been painting cars for over 40 years and Iv never seen this before, but in this game you are always learning so on the off chance I do get a run I will use this method, after all I have nothing to lose as it still has to be sanded out.
Just shave it with a Stanley blade first - takes about 5 minutes.
Been doing it for 35 years - never let me down
Gary Allen
😂😂
I've had my fair share - mostly sorting out other people's though.
And I did pack it in - retired at 50 👌
Gary Allen
I know - good one too 👍
Exactly..... This guy's method is time consuming and pointless !!!
My best advice would be.... If you get more runs in your paintwork than Don Bradman could get in a cricket match, you should find another profession...... Lol
This is Bush mechanics at best !!!
This is the difference from a painter and an applicator. A painter can fix his own mistakes
@@richf2834 well he did say his apprentice did it but yeah I agree with you.why hasn't anyone commented on the top of the door? See all the waves in the bodywork below The door handle.
I used to work in a full time bodyshop, and this tip would have been gold
Use a single blade razor and tape both ends with a single layer of tape. angle the razor and scrape and cut the run out. takes about 5 mins. to do what he did here.
Hold blade 90 degrees and take 80% of the run. Block the rest.
Excellent idea! Thanks!
yeah he could have just used the same amount of sanding to get rid of the runs and saved himself some putty.
THE MEDIC also if you bend the blade you avoid the corners
The Filler seems safer and it takes just 5-10 minutes if you use glazing putty.
From a panel beater this really does work , I’m pretty sure it’s only if the run is in the lacquer ( top coat). its a rare occasion when someone other then a panel beater needs filler (dolphin glaze), so when the polisher asked for it I was so intrigued I asked him about it and he showed/taught me. Like you said it’s worth trying if your gonna repaint it anyway. Very good tip
'uck yeah. Just used this and it worked. Gunny I'm having a beer in your honour tonight!
Haha cheers mate 🍻
A body file with the edges ground off is superb for removing runs. Shocked a few people with it. Works every time
Learned the same trick with the file years ago from an old German painter. I wouldn't have believed until I saw it work. Fact is the coarse file shaves the run without hitting the surrounding area.
heard of this trick before never knew how well it actually worked until watching this, ill have to give it a try next time i encounter a run
I've been painting almost 17 years. I heard about this a couple weeks ago and I just ran a black quarter. It's not real bad but I'm gonna try this just to see how it works. It's kinda obvious but I never thought of it. ;)
Its an awesome trick but if it was a real nice car then I'd just re paint because obviously it will be a flat spot without any peel when its finished.
The Gunman I had to wet sand the whole quarter any way because of some trash...and I was thinking about it.. I've never had a customer complain because a paint job was too flat...and when they picked up the car tonight they said "it looked better than factory"...any way...this is one of the best tricks I have ever used...I cannot believe how god this worked!!!
Thanks for the video! I would have done it anyway, but it's nice to have a reference! Again..I cannot believe how good this worked!!!! THANKS!!! I wish I'd know this trick 15 years ago...wow what a giant pain it would have saved me. I also think thios will make my jobs turn out better because I won't be so worried about runs or sags!
+ClausenLT yeah that's how my shop is.They don't care how much orange peal is in the rest of the car they want the repaired parts flat.Doesnt make sense but when do bosses do?lol
brynlpz83 See to me that's silly and I'd argue the point with them saying that our job is to make it look like it's never been in an accident, better than factory yes but to the trained eye it is so obvious that it's been done. Why have 3 panels that would win the concourse de elegance and the rest peely as a factory Mazda finish? It's not the aim of the game.
+The Gunman Yeah ill get in arguments once in a while about it but I'm just like whatever it's your shop.Still pains me everything I see the buffer DA entire panels with no dirt in them.
Night shift can leave some nasty runs ! Thank GOD for the GUNMAN !
Absolutely lovely technique! Works good.
That's an interesting trick. I'm almost excited to get a run again to try it! Almost.
Wow as someone who started painting cars and doing auto-body repair in 1957 I was impressed.At first I was a little bit confused but then it became all to clear. I wis I had known this trick when clear coating started to become the norm in the late 70s. Great info video.
40+ years painting show cars , never seen this before, you always see something new ..
You don't paint dick pal, just shut up! So sick of idiots like you making comments people might like so you can have some kind of attention, FUCK OFF MATE!!
@@Ryan-iw8yw what's up your ass?
Ryan you’re kind of a jerk! Are you aware of that?
If you paint 40 years of "shouwcars" why would you wanna use this trick?! A pro dont paint runners like that .. next time be homble en just leve the word "shouwcars" en use "cars" now go paint some runners on youre "cars"
@@crazyharis Ok, As you say I probably have never seen this because I don't get issues like this because of the way we paint, we don't have to paint for a finish as such because everything is wet sanded and polished, painting a standard road car working back in the garage doing insurance work then you have to go for a finish straight from the gun no time really for corrections and then of course there can be a fine line between a good finish and a run(runners) .. It was not meant to be a "look at me " because my job involves painting "showcars" it is just something I do.
I do not think there is a painter on this planet that has never had a run and no body is perfect, I would like to go and paint but the covid issue is preventing this.
In paint if you have an issue then the way of correcting it is the key.
This method in the video is a great idea, and if the time comes (which I am sure it will :-) ) I will bear this in mind..
I was a bit concerned at first until I realized what you were doing. This definitely helps visualize the area rather than gauging by feel only. Nice job on the demo.
I have always used spot putty to sand sags and runs out. I usually start with 400/600/1000/1500/Trizact
Yeah its the best, it got me out of trouble again today.
Spot putty is harder to sand isn't it? Is that why it would work better? Curious for my next fender/bumper run lol
I've done this before !!! It's worth mentioning that you may want to let the entire job "flash off" then apply another coat to effected area. This is purely so there is enough build. Otherwise you could be wasting your time. Also use an infra red lamp on the run prior to applying any stopper :)
Gman the apprentice didn't get a sag, that was a cascade : )
Thanks for the impressive tutorial.... Cheer's
No probs mate
The Gunman what brand of poly did you use? thanks
I call those curtains!
Couple commenters say, ya that is an old trick. When I'm an old body man and I have not seen it before. Huge thanks. And don't be shy and not put something in video cause you think it may obvious. That is why I like your channel. It has a lot of great stuff for all us.
Ever try the razor blade trick?
Be brave it does work, but one wrong move ......
hey, yet again another great video, i watch alot of people paint on youtube as i fell you can never know enough when it comes to painting, but your channel is by far the very best by a mile, not only is your videos quality but its they way you speak to people in them, your informative and do your best to teach i find the other youtube channels the only reason they put videos up is to show how good they are and to try and lord it over people and nearly no amateur would try it there way at they haven't spoke to them in lay mans terms and nearly puts they off trying something themselves as they make it out to be so difficult im a painter and they nearly make me think its difficult what there doing even though i do it everyday, keep up the good, massive fan all the way from ireland.
When you got the shine on that door I could still see a run in the body line under the handle right by the edge
Yeah I saw that too. I guess he just wanted to record the complete procedure without making a long boring video then fixed it later.
ya I also saw this but its still a pretty impressive way to mask out the clear you dont want brought down ill def be trying this
i have done that trick a few times when is was working as a truck painter ,, it allways worked like a charm 👌🏻
I did this on a black mercedez benz and it is extremely effective. I wasn't too ballsy so i started with 400 so as not to cut into it too fast.
Fabio Miguel fk 400 way to harsh. you could start with 800 and run through 1200-1500-2000
best just to stick with 1200-1500-2000
thanxx Wrong, 400 is perfect for a run this size
shoot I would have started out with 220 for a couple of strokes just to knock down the polyester filler a bit.
Damn that method with the glace worked well, I will remember this one. Thanks for the information it's now in my bag of tricks!
Man that apprentice must have been on acid or something,they were some mountains on that job.
Pretty easy to do under an edge like that. New people tend to rotate up to hit it without realizing the bottom of their spray pattern will be a few inches closer to the work. Better to run and learn than be a total newbie and hit the edge straight on for an uneven coating. Anybody can paint, but a painter knows what causes mistakes and can fix them.
This is always worth a try. If it fails you are only back to where you would have been anyway. In the day of using "Jam" it was always that last hurried wet coat that would send you nuts with the run and slump, but then I used to use knifing putty and lots of elbow grease and patience, never tried using bog, but obviously it works too. Good to see that elbow grease is still used and hasn't been replaced.
It's cold snowing outside in UK at the mo..painted in the cold got a small run in a door... Gonna need this trick... Thanks Gunny to the rescue 👍
wow, awesome job!
Thanks :-)
i tried this today on some heavy runs. They came out and everything buffed out nicely.It was on something I didn't want to repaint too, Very helpful video.
So does this remove the clear coat?? I just got my truck painted and there are 5-7 runs all over it. They said they were gonna wet sand and buff it out, but does it remove the clear coat??
no it does not remove the clear coat its just to make it even with the rest of the clear
+alomonas1450 Yes, James is right, it protects the low spots from being sanded so only the run or "high spot" where the paint has built up is exposed, preventing you from going too far and cutting through the clear.
Well thank yall both for the reply.
Well thank yall both for the reply.
If they did that, get a new painter, because runs like this should never happen
Grew up in an autobody shop. This is the best trick i have ever seen.
Yeah,you have to get runs to learn how to not get runs!!
Use fast activator, not medium lol
Yet another brilliant tip from the Gunman, I'm turning into a gunman groupie. Your vids and how-to's are brilliant, through watching and listening to your advice, I know which gun to go for (for a DIY-er) and which refinishing option.
Thanks so much.
I've been painting since the late seventies and only within the last couple of years and learn this trick. it's a good thing because I just ran the living s*** out of a Suburban
You have bin painting fore over 30years and jou still paint runners? Man you suck
@@crazyharis ....least he can spell......👏👏
@@nemohoes007 i speak German English Greek Belgium and little bit franch i am Belgium so English is not my language so what do you speak mister "you thought you had me on the spelling card" 😎 swim on Nemo smimmmmm onnnnnn and go look some Nickelodeon and shit 😁
@@crazyharis Lol salty much....and its PIXAR
Best thing I’ve ever saw to remove a run thanks so much I thought I would have to repaint a whole fender you saved my life
Do you put hardner in the filler?
Yes mike you must put hardner in the filler then allow 10~ min to dry. The heat that the filler generates helps the run to dry out a bit too.
Ok thanks
Yes it sure does, This car I did it on was painted the same day but we dried it with infrared lights for about an hour
can anyone tell me what type of filler this is?
@@MilushkaLaChula You use just standard glazing putty like evercoat
Hey Gunman
Did my apprenticeship in 1988-92, then left the trade. We used that technique back then. I always had mixed experiences, sometimes it would work, sometimes not. A lot had to do with the location of the run. How dry the paint was and the amount of coats, and of course the size.
Experience is the key to this trick. Knowing when to try to rub it out, or respray. It's learnt via trial and error.
Exactly, I have had lots of practice put it that way lol. But this method does work well on a car like this, it's an old 90's Corolla with average paint all over it so perfect for it and saved a booth cycle.
The Gunman And a great learning experience for your apprentice! If you don't stuff up your not learning, I believe. I always worry about the people I have mentored who never come to you with a problem or issue and ask for your advice. Usually means they're hiding something. Not a great thing in the medical profession!? Caught out one person I was mentoring, try to push a large amount of air through an IV line that went straight to the heart ❤️, would have killed them on the spot. Your apprentice did the right thing, sounds like they'll turn out alright if they are asking for help, showing you their mistakes and learning how, why and what.
prunejuicepower you can educate people but you can't make them any smarter.
I have a trade and 2 Uni degrees, as I said there's smart & educated.
I prefer to think of myself as being in the smart category.
I've worked with Neuro surgeons who can't even open a bonnet.
Garszy some people know a little bit about a lot of things others know a lot about a few things
U can use nitro puty then can remove him with thiner.. ;)
Filler
Yeah its a pretty neat trick, thanks for watching mate :-)
The Gunman thx for ur vids ;))
Thinner moisturize paint and damage other area. This method is time taking but result is pretty fine...
Good god that’s a fantastic trick. So the filler is actually protecting the good clear until the run is sanded flat. Brilliant
catch it wet, remove with masking tape. fast and easy as fuck.
thats exactly what i do, just let it flash off ever so slightly, wipe the run away, its 10 times easier flatting a smear than it is snotters!
yea m8 wot most normal people would do
Michael Drum ... i do that also, tho im no longer a body guy im a house painter and i still is that trick
Just like for primer
That’s pretty smart. It takes away the guess work and you can clearly see the progress as you go to finer grits. Great for beginners as well as pros, I guess.
Been a painter for 15 years,I don't usually find "tricks" that really work ,most of the time it just ppl full of bs,but this seems like it will actually work,going to gave to try this for sure
Dude ur a painting god...lol I went to college for custom painting and I absolutely love this kinda work. ..I'm thinking about going back to college for a refresh course....I'm just looking to become a apprentice somewhere
Very nice. I've seen some great paint jobs ruined by a run that then had to be re-painted. Wish I'd known about this back in 1983
You did a great job fixing that run you couldn't see where the run was? Great video Gunman
Used this technique on a vw caddy last weekend, worked great, thanks Gunman
Which vw caddy mate what year
What a great tip! Definitely giving this one a try next time I have a run
Bad ass man thats an awsome tip been painting for 10 years and this is def one i want to try myself!
Unbelievable...I watched this 3 times and still dont believe it...I am going to have to put some runs in a panel just to try this out!
Yeah man its awesome, I wouldn't do it on a real nice car but on the old ones when an apprentice does something like this its the best.
These old vids are packed with useful knowledge!!
Exellent tip.... Thanks for sharing your technique and explaining by demonstration.
Painting for 20 yrs and allways willing to learn more. Recommend your channel to all the young lads who think the old bloke (me) is talking crap when suggesting fixes.
PS Gti pro lite awsome
+phill b ...I get the same crap from the younger ones...then I show them...Who's laughing now
What a great idea just another form of a guide coat i guess . 10/10 for this one Mr GUNMAN . Hard to find tradies with pride today.
This video came up as a recommended video. I have used this trick for years. Would love to say I've never had to do it, lol, but I have. Saves so much time. I've tried the blocking with a paint stick, taking off the area and always had to declare until I came up with, what in thought was a unique idea. Haha. Awesome job.
I learn this from the guy who taught me to paint he was also from the west coast! Your videos are great pal greetings from the UK!
Hi mate, Thanks :-)
This looks a great trick , need to try it today . Just changed guns and and taking some getting used to . Can't believe I get better finish with a deltalyo than my new Sri pro!!. Keep up the awesome videos mate
I wish I'd known about this trick 20 years ago when I got runs all the time! Great trick since I've learned it it has saved me a paint job or two😁👍
Oh Gunman you just saved my Bacon I have a run on a door and it is just as lovely as yours was. I can't wait to try this the best idea I have seen in years. Thanks again
Gunman you are truly a awesome painter! I watched almost all of your videos and have u on FaceBook.... I must say that the body filler trick is pretty neat, I will try it myself! But also I have to be honest I can still see the Run. If you watch your video and pause at 5:16 you can tell the run is still there especially when the light wiggles on the panel that's a give away... a run that long I would suggest repainting. The untrained eye probably won't see it but most painters will.Please don't take it personal. I still recommend upcoming painters and experienced painter to watch your videos.
Thanks for watching all my vids mate, I do know what you mean and if it was a real nice car then we would have re painted it but it was just an old 90's corolla beaten up ol thing. So thought it would be a perfect opportunity to show off the trick. To be honest I'm sure that paint will out last the rest of the car lol. But as you obviously know doing this also runs the risk of not being left with much clear, But its all good mate thanks for your comment.
That sounds like a great trick using filler as a guide coat to remove the runs. I will definitely try it when I get a run.
Gunman!!! Your the best!! Got a big run in a xk150 jaguar I did Saturday and was pulling my hair out thinking what the hell was I going to do. Saw this video and god damn it it work got it out and looks like it was never there. Cheers again and keep up the great videos.
This will save me a ton of time. I don't paint, but I do cut and buff for several local body shops that don't like to do it themselves.
appreciate the knowledge. mechanic by trade fixing a wrecked car and I layed a fat run all the way down the molding line. worked great.
This man is Brilliant, he really knows what he's doing, love these videos👌👍👍
love this trick I've been painting over 30 years and never tried this one I've used the back side of 3/4 tape many times many thanks for this tip!!
No problems, I'm glad you found the vid.
Awesome video man...i wish I would have known this trick 30 years ago. It makes prefect sense can't believe I never thought of it. Thanks for putting this out there
this is a good trick. i will use this in the future. ive been painting for 15years. and i dont care how long a painter has been painting. runs happen even to the best. thanks