As someone who lives and regularly drives un-maintained mountain roads through all manner of conditions, this video is a perfect example of "what not to do" - especially in what is possibly the most capable production pickup truck ever released. Statements like "I'm going down in 4-High so I have traction control" and not using 4-low with manual gearbox down-shifting while on a steep icy descent show a lack of knowledge for how to handle a vehicle in conditions like this. Airing the tires down to 26 psi when you originally intended to go to 20 because of laziness and time constraints are further examples of misguided, uneducated decision making. Not having chains, a winch or proper recovery gear when venturing out in these conditions not only puts your life and property at risk, but the lives of those who may be mobilized to rescue you when you can't get out. This is a perfect example of creating media content with personal gain as the priority instead of prioritizing safety. It's all about the clicks anyway right?
BRO-very well said. i was thinking the same thing regarding the rescue team sent to retrieve his vehicle and potentially his corpse. you're not just putting yourself at risk, but others as well. thank you for so eloquently stating the hard truth!
@@brendonjames3193 yes 1st gear would just crawl down the hill in low range. Traction control is only effective when you are pressing the throttle so not sure why he was thinking about it when he was going down hill
When going up hill never let your momentum down folks , biggest lesson here. Most realistic offroad review I have seen to date, GREAT JOB with this video
I loved this video. "It's up to my skills as a driver, no get out of jail free cards here!" Then he gets stuck on a little bit of ice. You see these other videos of ZR2s bombing through frozen mud, snow, and ice with the same tires no issue. He pussyfoots it numerous times where momentum would have saved him. He also says he's experienced, but didn't bring a winch, another vehicle with a buddy, no chains, no air compressor, nothing. A cheap kodiak that plugs into his cigarette lighter would have been able to (slowly) pump him up so he could safely air down his tires to ~10psi when he was stuck in the ice. Instead he didn't want to air down further. Worst yet, he says "I'm going to go get a mocha" like it's some well-deserved prize for being a dipshit and getting a ZR2 Bison stuck and taking what seems like hours to dig himself out.
1-) You should not go alone offroading especially in winter 2-) You need to go much lower psi on your tires(bellow 20) 3-) When you going down on icy hill, do not slam the brakes. You need to put your transfer case to low range, engage the diff lockers and let it go down it self.(no need to push the brakes) 4-) I highly recommend you to get chains. Thats the best you can do in deep snow/icy conditions.
What do you think for those tires and that weight vehicle? Should be 20% distance loss between the rim and the ground. Id guess 8psi for the back and 15psi for the front. Of course I'd also prefer winter tires but hey work with what you got right?
@@90FirstGenPGT No he didnt but if you are going out where you might need to deflate you sure should have a way to reinflate. I have two compressors. One is a 5 cfm aftermarket unit in tandem with an OEM ride height compressor of an escalade or some such car. Needless to say, I can reinflate fairly quickly not to mention reinflate everyone around me as well. Of course, airing down is going to depend on your tire size and the weight of the vehicle. It's always fun to try and guess what the ideals would be.
Nice to see a respectful critical reply among all the other armchair dick quarterbacks in other posts. The guy sure pushed the limits. Ice under snow is no fun and add in the grade.... I would have turned around without spiked chains and a better shovel. Even with turnaround time coulda been sooner.
Thank you for posting this video. Very brave of you showing what really happens and not editing out everything. I have had to use a shovel and a frisbee to get unstuck. It took hours and I was embarrassed to share that with anyone.
Eight years ago, I was 16 and just got my license and my first car. I took my $300 '81 Subaru GL wagon (dual range 4WD) up to the mountains to drive in deep snow for the first time. I took exit 38 and found myself on this exact road going up the same hill in almost just as much snow. I made it up to the John Wayne Trail and tried going further up, only to find myself starting to slide sideways next to the cliff. Somehow the 175/70R13 all seasons found some traction and got me down. Very nostalgic watching this, exactly why I love the roads around here. I love doing the Stampede Pass run, great endurance test especially on transmission/coolant temps (more so on older vehicles); open season is short on it though. Found your channel from the 2020 Outback offroad review and have been hooked since; great knowledge, honesty, and best of all, I have driven on all the roads you drive on so I know exactly what it's like in person. I like watching these new cars struggle/manage to drive places all 6 have my Subarus have traversed. Keeping my eye out for you when I go to the mountains now, keep up the great work!
This is actually an awesome demo of what the ZR2 bison is capable of in oem stock trim. So in my opinion I would change out the tires, get a slightly more aggressive tire, and I would get the winch installed from day one. Awesome vid.
This is one of the best reviews I watched. Real life situation. I was in the similar situation on a steep hill with my 2018 Tacoma TRD-off road. It was icy covered with snow. Not fun. I had to dig myself out a few times too. Finally I bought tire chains. They do wonders on roads like this. If you don't have traction, 4wd, crawl control, dif. lock, nothing can help you.
KUDOS for having the balls to make then publish this video! Not all are experienced in driving extreme conditions and what you have done here gives us that perspective.
Great review with real life situation. That brought back memories when I worked in the forests. Back in the day when you had to get out of the truck and turn the hubs. I would carry old strips of carpet to help get traction. Of course I had chains for all wheels.
I love how thorough the video is touching on aspects of the vehicle. I'm weighing between another Jeep Wrangler (I've owned 5 Jeeps in my life), a Tacoma and this, primarily. As far as your inquiries for input, the biggest thing with hills, whether snow, mud or really loose gravel or sand, is don't lose momentum. Once you break that surface traction, it's a lot of work to get it back. Another is don't get too confident in your equipment. It comes with experience in those conditions AND knowing what you're driving can do. I never once got my Jeeps into situations I couldn't get out of easily, but I have with the stupid F-150 I have at the moment (I'm too use to Jeeps and have gotten myself into situations where it took A LOT of work and "accessories" to get out with, in snow and mud). I've also had much better success in snow with 4-high over 4-low. That's over a decade in Montana and Alaska. I think I've made four trips in the winter up and down the ALCAN too. A biggie is also registering a issue is about to happen before it does. The vehicle and conditions will let you know before shit goes down if you are paying attention, and as I said before, know the vehicle well in a lot of conditions.
@Driving Sports TV Thanks for posting this video; Stumbled upon the ZR2 because of the RAV4 Prime. I learned a lot from watching you and then reading all 800+ comments. I look forward to watching more reviews!!
You strap the truck to a tree to prevent it from sliding down the mountain and then lock it up and have an uber meet you at the bottom of your winter hike. Call chevy and let them know where their demo truck is.
Lots of know-it-alls here. Everybody knows what to do sitting on the toilet and watching others take the risks. This was a great video overall. The point was to show the capabilities and the limits of the stock form of this truck in a real world situation.. To that end, you did a great job. It was also instructive and illuminating, not to mention uncharacteristically transparent for a professional review channel, to take that much time to show what goes wrong and how to remedy it In a most unglamorous way. The best drivers have all been there. That's how they got to be the best drivers. Start out to find the limits of our vehicles, and along the way, we find our own, and grow. I guess the only disappointment for me is that at the end, you never told us why the Bison was the first of the off-road trucks you've reviewed that you actually wanted afterward. Maybe in the quest, to... I don't know... 𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘷𝘪𝘷𝘦, you forgot where you started. I understand. Other than that, though, much appreciated!
Not a great video.... ascent should have been in 4wd high with traction control and decent should have been in 4wd low and manual control of the trans to control speed. Top that with the guy didn't NEED to go there and he risked needing a rescue operator to risk themselves and equipment in potential recovery efforts. All in some effort for monetary gains it is disgusting. Even sadder the fact us saying anything in the comments helps the YT algorithms to bring his video closer to the front thus make more money.
How convenient to criticize other having zero to contribute yourself. It is pride and arrogance in those who don't provide any constructive input. Thank you for your video and showing real struggles of snow driving so others can learn and benefit from your not so perfect experience.
Here's some constructive help for those of you who OWN a ZR2: In order to avoid power loss like what caused him to not make it up the hill requires turning off the traction control and stabilitrack ALL THE WAY by holding down the button for 10 seconds. This allows you to actually get your tires spinning and not slow down. The only thing I would say about the getting stuck part when trying to go up the road without previous tracks in deep snow like that is don't do that without all tires having chains on it AND having another vehicle to yank you out ALSO have full size shovels.
Yup. Surprised you were the first comment that I saw mention this. Lots of other good points mentioned, but it seems like most have missed this. You aren't climbing rocks, bro.
It started with "lets stop near the top of the hill, what could go wrong", and later on "lets try making a new road, what can go wrong"... very daring spirit he has..
Fan of the channel. It was irresponsible to venture somewhere like that without chains (or, ideally, dedicated snow tires plus chains, if the terrain weren't too rough). I don't mean cables either, or weaker chains made for on-road use, but real ladder-style chains (boron steel), of a thicker gauge, that you can take off-road (though the on-road style chains that have a built in tensioner system you can sometimes put on once you are already stuck, since you don't have to drive over them, so there is an advantage to having those as well to get unstuck, and then switch to heavier gauge chains when you can. Ideally though, you want to chain up BEFORE you might get stuck, ). V-bar chains would be best for ice on inclines and more challenging situations. Studded snows would get you far but you'd still need chains for steeper/slicker situations, especially when temps are higher, as you noted (the colder it is, the less slippery the ice). Hopefully you at least told someone where you were going, and had a radio or satellite phone. Other things: you need a full-size shovel (which you could also use to break up ice, potentially, otherwise a tool for that as well), a hi-lift jack with a stand for the snow (or another jack solution, such as an inflatable bag), a few bags of sand (that alone can get you out of ice sometimes), a couple bags of salt (which can also act as grit for traction), an axe and/or chain saw (to clear trail or chop wood for traction, as well as for fire building for survival purposes), and full-size maxtrax (don't skimp on off-brand products or buy the baby ones - in fact, you need multiple sets so you can create a length of track). If you had 3 or 4 sets (the more the better) you could have gone up and down the hill more easily, albeit slowly, stopping to re lay the track as you go over it. The biggest traction aid you could have had, however, besides tire chains, would have been a winch (ideally 2, front and rear), and the biggest thing for safety would have been going out in a team (at minimum one other car, also well-equipped). Lots of cars with lots of maxtrax also means longer tracks you can build. Also hope you had a full-size spare. It would be ideal to have all those things, but in reality, just a few of them would have given a lot of insurance. Additionally, you should always be properly dressed (synthetics or wool only - no cotton, waterproof boots and gloves, layers, change of clothes, etc.) and take some basic survival supplies in case you have to spend the night (wool blanket or sleeping bag, food, water, fire-making materials, first aid, etc.). One tip next time you're climbing a hill: get a stone or log (again, an axe can be helpful here, though you could probably find something just lying on the ground) to place behind your tires as a backstop so you don't keep sliding if you can't climb (sand can also help in these situations when on you're on ice). Thinking a little more fantastically, while it would have to be done intelligently (making sure they would stop you without rolling, and without causing a crash), you might be able to lay log across the trail to give stops for going down hill so you can only slide so far (would be a lot of work, but if you thought you would die otherwise, maybe worth it). Even some brush might do the trick, and be easier. Maxtrax might be best. Also to create a barrier for the spots with the steepest cant where you might slide off. It would be experimental, and I'm not sure if it would be safe, but I was also thinking about dragging a log behind you as a brake (if you had good rope or chain and the right attachment points), so long as it wouldn't roll forward (if properly shaped, like a snow anchor, and attached securely at both ends). A rear winch (and a snow anchor, if no suitable tree) might also let you lower yourself down. Of course, all that crazy thinking mostly goes away with simple tire chains, or maybe even good snow tires. I think you handled yourself well. You stayed calm (especially when back-sliding) and mostly knew what to do. Although going up/down that hill and trying to break trail were foolhardy - it's not at all impossible that you would have slid into the ditch into an un-recoverable situation, given your gear, or, worse, slid off the cliff. There are a few other things you could have tried (like cutting brush when your traction boards weren't working, creating a backstop to not roll down the hill, or airing down a little bit more), though, more to the point, LOTS of other equipment you should have had - mainly, by a large margin, snow tires/chains, which probably would have meant you wouldn't have gotten stuck or been sliding down the icy hill. Again, I hope you always tell someone where you're going in case you don't come back, and next time, take a buddy vehicle, or at least a buddy in your vehicle (you can reach out to local 4x4 clubs). My 2 cents (pretty long post, for youtube anyway, so maybe 20 cents).
This is some awesome advice!! Thanks for taking the time! As a noob off-roader this is some great stuff! Personally, I would've stopped when he first started sliding down the hill and definitely would've brought a recovery vehicle.
@@RugbyLock2668 Sure thing! And me too, unless I had other vehicles with me or the right recovery gear and someone knew my position (though even then it could lead to injury in the worst case scenario). Nothing is zero risk, it's just a question of mitigating the risk to a level where you're comfortable. He could do that 10 times and would probably be fine, but the 11th, or 50th, or 100th time, something terrible could happen. He probably realized it was sketchy but maybe felt pressure to get the footage for his channel rather than have to come out and shoot another day with the greater overhead and logistics of more equipment and people. For me though, once I saw that level of slip, and knowing I'd have to come back down, I probably would have turned back and come back with chains and my usual basic level of gear.
I knew it was going to be a shit show when he started the video stating the “gladiator” was a package vice a specific vehicle. The “rubicon” is the package that competes with the TRD Pro package and the others. 🙄
I definitely don't have the experience to go up a mountain full of snow during a blizzard. But the guy got himself out of a very hairy and stressful situation. I'm certain it initially takes a lot of mistakes to build up good experience for these situations. The Chevy Colorado ZR2 Bison is definitely an excellent mid size pick up truck for extreme off road conditions. But an excellent off road driver is definitely a necessity.
Agree that airing down generally helps in the snow. Dont think he would have been any better off in this case though as it appeared that he was stuck due to getting the chassis hung up on the snow due to lack of ground clearance. Airing down would have made his clearance matters worse.
It's worth mentioning that the Duratrac is a studable tire, though perhaps chains would be the best tool for the icy slope you came across. Nice video, and glad you made it out ok.
Great video! Absolutely real and authentic. you were alone right? You could clearly see your facial features derail as it went down. That was tough! Thank you for such great films.
you did what you could with the knowledge that you had, no one can blame you for that! But I know I occasionally stop where I am near turn around points to see how much grip I really have vs how much momentum is carrying me, and whether or not its worth it to continue forward with the gear I have at the time. Just something to consider for the future, but I'm sure you already know this. Just a PSA!
Having driven in the snow up here in Canada, and going camping in the wilderness every once in a while. First things first. Always bring someone with you, or if you're confident enough at the very least let someone know where you're going to be just in case. For extras I would say a shovel is great, and bring possibly a hatchet or small saw at the minimum for trail running. Recovery gear of course such as your tow strap. To have in your glove compartment always a lighter, and something that could help you start a fire incase you do get stuck. For this kind of thing as well, couple cans of soup because you just never know.
Sir; as someone who lives in mountains I completely understand your wanting to go down the hill in forwards. Good decision to attempt again so you went back down forwards. Single scariest thing is to try and back down with cliffs on the side.
Great real world review. Sometimes things can go awry very quickly, it takes some thinking to get out of bad situations like that and I’m glad you did. Driving in snow is a whole different animal, it takes some skill to get through it.
@@americanparser He literally talks about it at the beginning of the video. He even discussed controlling the speed via the plus and minus in his shift lever. Crazy!
Well done. The comments are a little tough, but at the end of the day , you showed what the truck can do and truthfully what you can do under pressure alone in the snow. I tip my cap to you. And Chevy too. 👍🏼
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. I think when you ran into the ice when going to uphill you should have avoided the trail made by previous vehicles. Usually the snow melts a bit and refreezes into ice. And nothing is worse than ice. You should have only driven on the part where there is fresh snow. Aside from that, there wasn't much you could do besides get proper snow tires which would have given you more grip all around.
This is true to a point. Sugar snow that results from freeze thaws sometimes build up in the middle of the road due to other vehicles packing it down and you don't dare get off of it. I ended up rescuing some jeeps a few years ago that made that mistake on a pretty good grade. Took a bit to get them back on the tracks. They were in danger of going over the edge. In cases like this where the whole center isn't packed I like getting off the beaten part of the track when going down hill. Helps slow you down. Hopefully not deep enough to mess up your steering too much.
Tires should have been aired down much lower than 26psi. In those conditions it would be a huge improvement. And slowing down/ losing momentum on that up hill was crazy. Also on the descent I understand your arguments for using 4hi to get stability control working maybe that's the better way but on steep slippery downhills I was taught to use 4low with the transmission in low 1st gear. U get an incredibly low gear doing that and descend at a very slow controled speed. Only commenting because you wanted to hear what we thought. Great video.
Yah, you beat me to the punch. I was picturing what the bird was thinking watching these "human" fools try to conquer nature. Does that chevy fly? fools.
So, I'm at 25:16, and having been in this situation a few times myself, I can tell you that the problem is the snow that is packed underneath the vehicle. You want to reach the shovel underneath the truck to pull the snow out that is high centering the truck. Focus on underneath the engine and the front control arms, and underneath the rear axle. If that isn't enough, then start digging out more under the center of the truck. I was in this situation myself yesterday, actually, in my Tundra. I had the bright idea of driving through a deep, packed snow drift, and ended up stuck hard. I self recovered in about 15 minutes by digging out underneath of the truck with the shovel that I always keep in there. BTW, I've got Blizzaks on my Tundra in the winter, and they do a great job of churning through deep snow like you saw in the Colorado.
@@pokor5791 I've got Blizzaks on my Tundra, and they work wonders. They would have definitely gotten him up that hill with no issues. Still doesn't help you if you frame out, though. Especially here in Manitoba, where the drifts can be rock hard.
@@chrisgleeton6823 I agree, we had 24 inch storm with heavy snow temp right at freezing. Nothing but a plow was getting me out of my uphill rural driveway.
Two thoughts, It seamed like you put the transmission in 1st gear, when in snow or ice you want to start in 2nd. Also, when descending, if you try to limit wheel speed too much for the conditions then it the same as locking the brakes and you slide.
Man I hate it when it snows that much and you get stuck like that. That’s how I fried my transmission, trying to get out of the snow and digging myself into a deeper hole. The shifting going back and forth costed me almost $4,000. It was a AWD suv though. This was an entertaining video to watch. Very scary stuff when you start sliding down hill like that. Very easy to spin out of control. Like the content, Subscribed! 👍
I've been in almost the exact same situation 40km up a snowy logging road in BC. As I climbed higher the snow got deeper and deeper until i couldnt move forward anymore. It would have been fairly easy to back out, but i got really stuck when I attemped to turn around and started to shovel (just like in this video). Oddly enough a logger had snow shoed past where I was stuck and was driving a big excavator out of the bush and was able to clear a pad and then hook his bucket to a toe rope to drag me around so i was pointed down hill. I was with a friend and we had xc skiis, winter sleeping bags, and a few days of food, but i bet it would have taken hours to shovel enough waste deep snow to be able to turn around.
I don’t understand why people on here are trash talking this test..did you want a fake test or a real world test. It just shows that these trucks with tough names aren’t going to save you like you think. You live in la la land if you believe it. Great video. Eff the people on here crying
Ok, at first I thought cool, driving in lots of snow, but then I said, I am so glad I live in the South. We don’t get much snow, but we do sometimes get ice. Forget the snow. Warm beach sand for me.
Joe Larson First thing I thought is where are the winter tires... duratracs are ok in winter but still dont even come close to a proper set of winters. I run cooper discoverer m+s with the 3 peak and studs and ive never had a problem in snow up to 4 feet.
friskycrewgerrusty Yep!! Ive been using them in BC for 10 years now. This year I had to buy new ones again so I got the motomaster total terrain w/t which is made by cooper and the tread is almost identical but its slightly deeper. So far so good with 2 months of snow and ice.
I thought it was a very good video. Nice to see what the Colorado ZR2 can do in some pretty challenging conditions. The tires could probably be better but that's what the truck comes with. Thanks Ryan enjoyed the ride! I have 2018 ZR2 but haven't challenged it yet like this.Ryan seems so calm and collected, I would love to see the unedited version lol
I'm sure others have said this. But I can't help it. - If I was going to take on these type of conditions, I'd make sure I had studded snow tires. - All terrain tires or ones that say mud and snow are NOT snow. There is a difference.
I have a Falken Wildpeak A/T3w. There are good in snow but on ice is not much. Studded winter tires would be much better as you mentioned but regular winter tires wouldn't do much. When you offroading in deep snow and ice, you need a chains to get most grip :)
Man I'm sorry, been there in the snow. Three times stuck, I don't fool around with it any more without another rig. Liked your review though, been thinking of these and I'm pretty sure I'll be getting one now. Thank you.
It has an actual front locker. Based on this guys "skill" im guessing it wasnt engaged / he didnt engage it properly. Dude should not have been out there with 1 vehicle / by himself
I have the ZR2 and I noticed the same thing at 16:21. When you go above a certain wheel speed, the front lockers will disengage automatically. I had a 2004 Jeep Rubicon that did the same thing.
Kerry Martin you need to hold the button down to turn off esp and stability control it will lock the brakes before it kicks the lockers it will over run 4-low and smoke your diff otherwise
He didn't have off-road mode engaged. You have to go slow or engage off-road mode to have lockers stay engaged over 25mph. So a little wheelspin and they could turn off without off-road on.
Not gonna lie. When I first moved to Utah from Georgia I found myself in one of these situations up Bountiful Peak in a stock F150 after a snow storm. Never again.
I laughed way too hard watching this video!😂 Perfect example of what not to do!🤪 Hey at least he had the balls to post this! If I were him, I would had waited for better weather for a re-do! Better than looking like an inexperienced moron! Had the deer in the headlights look on his face when it began to slide!🦌😯😂😂😂
Have you ever done this before? This looks like an offroad trip to me, just tough when your solo. He should have brought chains, but he said in the beginning he wasn't expecting so much ice from the thaws.
@@solen1849 no I have not. I do know I wouldn't have gone alone. If I were to ever go on an off road adventure like this, it would be in a group of experienced people.
Proper snow tires or 3 peak rated tires would've made a difference for sure. Not night and day...but enough to help. Can't believe I'm just now seeing this video. Nice job Ryan!
I noticed at 16.22 youve got all lockers on and of road mode and gunning it but your front drivers wheel is not spinning, is this a breaking mechanism?
Ahh, that Pacific Northwest wet snow. People don't really understand it until you've experienced it. A TJ Jeep Wrangler got stuck when it was trying to get me out.
As someone who lives and regularly drives un-maintained mountain roads through all manner of conditions, this video is a perfect example of "what not to do" - especially in what is possibly the most capable production pickup truck ever released. Statements like "I'm going down in 4-High so I have traction control" and not using 4-low with manual gearbox down-shifting while on a steep icy descent show a lack of knowledge for how to handle a vehicle in conditions like this. Airing the tires down to 26 psi when you originally intended to go to 20 because of laziness and time constraints are further examples of misguided, uneducated decision making. Not having chains, a winch or proper recovery gear when venturing out in these conditions not only puts your life and property at risk, but the lives of those who may be mobilized to rescue you when you can't get out. This is a perfect example of creating media content with personal gain as the priority instead of prioritizing safety. It's all about the clicks anyway right?
BRO-very well said. i was thinking the same thing regarding the rescue team sent to retrieve his vehicle and potentially his corpse. you're not just putting yourself at risk, but others as well. thank you for so eloquently stating the hard truth!
Why on earth would he want traction control in the snow going DOWN HILL??? LOW Gear all the way.
So would you reckon Low Range 1st or 2nd for the descents in the snow is the way to go? Traction control off? This is my take on it..
Sounds likes a good old scolding!😂🏔️!🍻
@@brendonjames3193 yes 1st gear would just crawl down the hill in low range. Traction control is only effective when you are pressing the throttle so not sure why he was thinking about it when he was going down hill
Only certain people know how it feels to slide backwards on a steep icy hill. The cheeks come together w quite a force!
😂😂👍
Lmao😂
I'm sure this pavement queen knows the feeling well
I'm guessing that you're sucking some padding up as well!!
Yep and going backward doing 40mph on Ice in middle of town, not smart
When going up hill never let your momentum down folks , biggest lesson here. Most realistic offroad review I have seen to date, GREAT JOB with this video
"i have a lot of experience driving in conditions like these"
minute later- slows down on a hill losing momentum for a tiny baby branch......lol
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😂😂😂
Clearly he lied on his resume to get this job...
I thought the same. Momentum is everything.
On 26 psi
You're not gonna catch me stopping in the middle of a snowy uphill climb lol momentum is the only way sometimes lol
I loved this video. "It's up to my skills as a driver, no get out of jail free cards here!" Then he gets stuck on a little bit of ice. You see these other videos of ZR2s bombing through frozen mud, snow, and ice with the same tires no issue. He pussyfoots it numerous times where momentum would have saved him. He also says he's experienced, but didn't bring a winch, another vehicle with a buddy, no chains, no air compressor, nothing. A cheap kodiak that plugs into his cigarette lighter would have been able to (slowly) pump him up so he could safely air down his tires to ~10psi when he was stuck in the ice. Instead he didn't want to air down further.
Worst yet, he says "I'm going to go get a mocha" like it's some well-deserved prize for being a dipshit and getting a ZR2 Bison stuck and taking what seems like hours to dig himself out.
@@xtanon5540 thanks for the heads up before I wasted 36 mins watching the video with all these ads 🤣
1-) You should not go alone offroading especially in winter
2-) You need to go much lower psi on your tires(bellow 20)
3-) When you going down on icy hill, do not slam the brakes. You need to put your transfer case to low range, engage the diff lockers and let it go down it self.(no need to push the brakes)
4-) I highly recommend you to get chains. Thats the best you can do in deep snow/icy conditions.
What do you think for those tires and that weight vehicle? Should be 20% distance loss between the rim and the ground. Id guess 8psi for the back and 15psi for the front. Of course I'd also prefer winter tires but hey work with what you got right?
@@consaka1 I wouldn't go that low if you have no way to re-inflate them. He didn't mention if he had a compressor built into the truck.
@@90FirstGenPGT No he didnt but if you are going out where you might need to deflate you sure should have a way to reinflate. I have two compressors. One is a 5 cfm aftermarket unit in tandem with an OEM ride height compressor of an escalade or some such car. Needless to say, I can reinflate fairly quickly not to mention reinflate everyone around me as well.
Of course, airing down is going to depend on your tire size and the weight of the vehicle. It's always fun to try and guess what the ideals would be.
Nice to see a respectful critical reply among all the other armchair dick quarterbacks in other posts. The guy sure pushed the limits. Ice under snow is no fun and add in the grade.... I would have turned around without spiked chains and a better shovel. Even with turnaround time coulda been sooner.
I love that there are people here both saying that he should've aired down more and that he shouldn't have aired down at all.
OMG. 18:03 ... "If I have to go all the way down this hill and try it again, I will."
Makes a big mistake, then doubles-down. Brilliant.
Too much operator error to call this a valid review of a capable off-roader.
Thank you for posting this video. Very brave of you showing what really happens and not editing out everything. I have had to use a shovel and a frisbee to get unstuck. It took hours and I was embarrassed to share that with anyone.
Eight years ago, I was 16 and just got my license and my first car. I took my $300 '81 Subaru GL wagon (dual range 4WD) up to the mountains to drive in deep snow for the first time. I took exit 38 and found myself on this exact road going up the same hill in almost just as much snow. I made it up to the John Wayne Trail and tried going further up, only to find myself starting to slide sideways next to the cliff. Somehow the 175/70R13 all seasons found some traction and got me down. Very nostalgic watching this, exactly why I love the roads around here. I love doing the Stampede Pass run, great endurance test especially on transmission/coolant temps (more so on older vehicles); open season is short on it though. Found your channel from the 2020 Outback offroad review and have been hooked since; great knowledge, honesty, and best of all, I have driven on all the roads you drive on so I know exactly what it's like in person. I like watching these new cars struggle/manage to drive places all 6 have my Subarus have traversed. Keeping my eye out for you when I go to the mountains now, keep up the great work!
"I decided to attempt some power maneuvers"
*aggressively spins wheels*
I mean he did say POWER lol
@@joelramdhan405 it’s been 9 months
Yes I can read
@@joelramdhan405 well I assumed that but thanks for clarifying
@@burnttoastdan9270 you’re welcome
This is actually an awesome demo of what the ZR2 bison is capable of in oem stock trim. So in my opinion I would change out the tires, get a slightly more aggressive tire, and I would get the winch installed from day one. Awesome vid.
What tire would you get?
5:13 this is the important stuff I want to know, the exact methods in which the driveline operates. Keep up the good work!
Same!
This is a good example for the rookies to view. This video says "don't do what this guy does!"
Your first mistake was putting on a track suit to go in the snow!! 🤣🤣
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21:31 "this may be the dumbest thing I've ever tried"
You forgot to mention "this week" :)
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😂😂😂
Think he forgot to mention "in the last 5 minutes". lol
This is one of the best reviews I watched. Real life situation. I was in the similar situation on a steep hill with my 2018 Tacoma TRD-off road. It was icy covered with snow. Not fun. I had to dig myself out a few times too. Finally I bought tire chains. They do wonders on roads like this. If you don't have traction, 4wd, crawl control, dif. lock, nothing can help you.
27:47 Crow comes to watch silly human stuck in snow, but so am I, lol
KUDOS for having the balls to make then publish this video! Not all are experienced in driving extreme conditions and what you have done here gives us that perspective.
Great review with real life situation. That brought back memories when I worked in the forests. Back in the day when you had to get out of the truck and turn the hubs. I would carry old strips of carpet to help get traction. Of course I had chains for all wheels.
I appreciate your calm demeanor and verbalization of what's happening and your thought process. That was some adventure!
WOW, glad you made it back safe! Snow like that, on a mountain like that, is no joke! Otherwise thanks for the video! Great job!
I love how thorough the video is touching on aspects of the vehicle. I'm weighing between another Jeep Wrangler (I've owned 5 Jeeps in my life), a Tacoma and this, primarily.
As far as your inquiries for input, the biggest thing with hills, whether snow, mud or really loose gravel or sand, is don't lose momentum. Once you break that surface traction, it's a lot of work to get it back. Another is don't get too confident in your equipment. It comes with experience in those conditions AND knowing what you're driving can do. I never once got my Jeeps into situations I couldn't get out of easily, but I have with the stupid F-150 I have at the moment (I'm too use to Jeeps and have gotten myself into situations where it took A LOT of work and "accessories" to get out with, in snow and mud). I've also had much better success in snow with 4-high over 4-low. That's over a decade in Montana and Alaska. I think I've made four trips in the winter up and down the ALCAN too. A biggie is also registering a issue is about to happen before it does. The vehicle and conditions will let you know before shit goes down if you are paying attention, and as I said before, know the vehicle well in a lot of conditions.
I was full of anxiety watching this video LOL
@Driving Sports TV Thanks for posting this video; Stumbled upon the ZR2 because of the RAV4 Prime. I learned a lot from watching you and then reading all 800+ comments. I look forward to watching more reviews!!
“You should always have a tow strap”. What good does a tow strap do you when you’re the only one on the mountain?
Chris Thomason lol
You strap the truck to a tree to prevent it from sliding down the mountain and then lock it up and have an uber meet you at the bottom of your winter hike. Call chevy and let them know where their demo truck is.
This is the best vehicle review I’ve ever seen great work
You need to test all the vehicles in the snow this year my friend excellent video!!!
Lots of know-it-alls here. Everybody knows what to do sitting on the toilet and watching others take the risks.
This was a great video overall. The point was to show the capabilities and the limits of the stock form of this truck in a real world situation.. To that end, you did a great job.
It was also instructive and illuminating, not to mention uncharacteristically transparent for a professional review channel, to take that much time to show what goes wrong and how to remedy it In a most unglamorous way. The best drivers have all been there. That's how they got to be the best drivers. Start out to find the limits of our vehicles, and along the way, we find our own, and grow.
I guess the only disappointment for me is that at the end, you never told us why the Bison was the first of the off-road trucks you've reviewed that you actually wanted afterward. Maybe in the quest, to... I don't know... 𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘷𝘪𝘷𝘦, you forgot where you started. I understand.
Other than that, though, much appreciated!
Not a great video.... ascent should have been in 4wd high with traction control and decent should have been in 4wd low and manual control of the trans to control speed. Top that with the guy didn't NEED to go there and he risked needing a rescue operator to risk themselves and equipment in potential recovery efforts. All in some effort for monetary gains it is disgusting. Even sadder the fact us saying anything in the comments helps the YT algorithms to bring his video closer to the front thus make more money.
I love when you see reviews of vehicles really being tested 👍🏻
How convenient to criticize other having zero to contribute yourself. It is pride and arrogance in those who don't provide any constructive input.
Thank you for your video and showing real struggles of snow driving so others can learn and benefit from your not so perfect experience.
Here's some constructive help for those of you who OWN a ZR2: In order to avoid power loss like what caused him to not make it up the hill requires turning off the traction control and stabilitrack ALL THE WAY by holding down the button for 10 seconds. This allows you to actually get your tires spinning and not slow down. The only thing I would say about the getting stuck part when trying to go up the road without previous tracks in deep snow like that is don't do that without all tires having chains on it AND having another vehicle to yank you out ALSO have full size shovels.
And, bring your wife so she can dig you out, LOL.
Great Video!! I could feel my stress level rising as though I was right there with you! You handled yourself very well!!
I knew we were in trouble when he said Starbucks. Then he puts in in 4L in 6” of snow. He needed to stay at the coffee shop in his chevy spark
Yup. Surprised you were the first comment that I saw mention this. Lots of other good points mentioned, but it seems like most have missed this. You aren't climbing rocks, bro.
It started with "lets stop near the top of the hill, what could go wrong", and later on "lets try making a new road, what can go wrong"... very daring spirit he has..
Yeeesh. Lost me @ 54K price tag for a mid size truck....How times have changed.
Where others would have stopped. You continued. That’s what makes your videos one of my favorite off road reviews
Had me stressed the whole time lol
I QUESS WILL NEVER KNOW HOW IT WOULD HANDLE TAKING A 30 FOOT DROP OFF THE CLIFF
Fan of the channel.
It was irresponsible to venture somewhere like that without chains (or, ideally, dedicated snow tires plus chains, if the terrain weren't too rough). I don't mean cables either, or weaker chains made for on-road use, but real ladder-style chains (boron steel), of a thicker gauge, that you can take off-road (though the on-road style chains that have a built in tensioner system you can sometimes put on once you are already stuck, since you don't have to drive over them, so there is an advantage to having those as well to get unstuck, and then switch to heavier gauge chains when you can. Ideally though, you want to chain up BEFORE you might get stuck, ). V-bar chains would be best for ice on inclines and more challenging situations. Studded snows would get you far but you'd still need chains for steeper/slicker situations, especially when temps are higher, as you noted (the colder it is, the less slippery the ice).
Hopefully you at least told someone where you were going, and had a radio or satellite phone.
Other things: you need a full-size shovel (which you could also use to break up ice, potentially, otherwise a tool for that as well), a hi-lift jack with a stand for the snow (or another jack solution, such as an inflatable bag), a few bags of sand (that alone can get you out of ice sometimes), a couple bags of salt (which can also act as grit for traction), an axe and/or chain saw (to clear trail or chop wood for traction, as well as for fire building for survival purposes), and full-size maxtrax (don't skimp on off-brand products or buy the baby ones - in fact, you need multiple sets so you can create a length of track). If you had 3 or 4 sets (the more the better) you could have gone up and down the hill more easily, albeit slowly, stopping to re lay the track as you go over it. The biggest traction aid you could have had, however, besides tire chains, would have been a winch (ideally 2, front and rear), and the biggest thing for safety would have been going out in a team (at minimum one other car, also well-equipped). Lots of cars with lots of maxtrax also means longer tracks you can build. Also hope you had a full-size spare.
It would be ideal to have all those things, but in reality, just a few of them would have given a lot of insurance. Additionally, you should always be properly dressed (synthetics or wool only - no cotton, waterproof boots and gloves, layers, change of clothes, etc.) and take some basic survival supplies in case you have to spend the night (wool blanket or sleeping bag, food, water, fire-making materials, first aid, etc.).
One tip next time you're climbing a hill: get a stone or log (again, an axe can be helpful here, though you could probably find something just lying on the ground) to place behind your tires as a backstop so you don't keep sliding if you can't climb (sand can also help in these situations when on you're on ice).
Thinking a little more fantastically, while it would have to be done intelligently (making sure they would stop you without rolling, and without causing a crash), you might be able to lay log across the trail to give stops for going down hill so you can only slide so far (would be a lot of work, but if you thought you would die otherwise, maybe worth it). Even some brush might do the trick, and be easier. Maxtrax might be best. Also to create a barrier for the spots with the steepest cant where you might slide off. It would be experimental, and I'm not sure if it would be safe, but I was also thinking about dragging a log behind you as a brake (if you had good rope or chain and the right attachment points), so long as it wouldn't roll forward (if properly shaped, like a snow anchor, and attached securely at both ends). A rear winch (and a snow anchor, if no suitable tree) might also let you lower yourself down. Of course, all that crazy thinking mostly goes away with simple tire chains, or maybe even good snow tires.
I think you handled yourself well. You stayed calm (especially when back-sliding) and mostly knew what to do. Although going up/down that hill and trying to break trail were foolhardy - it's not at all impossible that you would have slid into the ditch into an un-recoverable situation, given your gear, or, worse, slid off the cliff. There are a few other things you could have tried (like cutting brush when your traction boards weren't working, creating a backstop to not roll down the hill, or airing down a little bit more), though, more to the point, LOTS of other equipment you should have had - mainly, by a large margin, snow tires/chains, which probably would have meant you wouldn't have gotten stuck or been sliding down the icy hill.
Again, I hope you always tell someone where you're going in case you don't come back, and next time, take a buddy vehicle, or at least a buddy in your vehicle (you can reach out to local 4x4 clubs).
My 2 cents (pretty long post, for youtube anyway, so maybe 20 cents).
This is some awesome advice!! Thanks for taking the time! As a noob off-roader this is some great stuff! Personally, I would've stopped when he first started sliding down the hill and definitely would've brought a recovery vehicle.
@@RugbyLock2668 Sure thing! And me too, unless I had other vehicles with me or the right recovery gear and someone knew my position (though even then it could lead to injury in the worst case scenario). Nothing is zero risk, it's just a question of mitigating the risk to a level where you're comfortable. He could do that 10 times and would probably be fine, but the 11th, or 50th, or 100th time, something terrible could happen. He probably realized it was sketchy but maybe felt pressure to get the footage for his channel rather than have to come out and shoot another day with the greater overhead and logistics of more equipment and people. For me though, once I saw that level of slip, and knowing I'd have to come back down, I probably would have turned back and come back with chains and my usual basic level of gear.
Dam u over here preaching lml
I would have needed a pack of diapers and wipes as well
26PSI... So Painful to watch this level of inexpeirence....
Coulda figured once I seen what state license plate is on the vehicle :)
Trevor S , still... snow wheelin requires low pressure in those conditions.
I knew it was going to be a shit show when he started the video stating the “gladiator” was a package vice a specific vehicle. The “rubicon” is the package that competes with the TRD Pro package and the others. 🙄
I definitely don't have the experience to go up a mountain full of snow during a blizzard. But the guy got himself out of a very hairy and stressful situation. I'm certain it initially takes a lot of mistakes to build up good experience for these situations. The Chevy Colorado ZR2 Bison is definitely an excellent mid size pick up truck for extreme off road conditions. But an excellent off road driver is definitely a necessity.
Agree that airing down generally helps in the snow. Dont think he would have been any better off in this case though as it appeared that he was stuck due to getting the chassis hung up on the snow due to lack of ground clearance. Airing down would have made his clearance matters worse.
It's worth mentioning that the Duratrac is a studable tire, though perhaps chains would be the best tool for the icy slope you came across. Nice video, and glad you made it out ok.
The factory Duratracs on the zr2 are sadly not studable
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None of those fancy modes matter on ice. Will people ever learn that? lol
Great video! Absolutely real and authentic. you were alone right? You could clearly see your facial features derail as it went down. That was tough! Thank you for such great films.
"I'm gonna go get myself a mocha" should have been "I'm gonna go change my shorts now"
you did what you could with the knowledge that you had, no one can blame you for that! But I know I occasionally stop where I am near turn around points to see how much grip I really have vs how much momentum is carrying me, and whether or not its worth it to continue forward with the gear I have at the time. Just something to consider for the future, but I'm sure you already know this. Just a PSA!
Lost me at Starbucks
Right! Now if he would have said the local tavern we're good!🍻😂
Brian Carrier lmaoooo
Thanks for uploading reality. I love it, that you kept a genuine!
this was hard to watch. wow man I can't believe you posted this
Exactly the same reason why I got a Zr2 Duramax is for the snow. Nice video keep up the work and bringing us more outdoor stuff.
27:46 that crow...we've all seen one at a moment like this lol.
Funny. I just saw the crow.
Having driven in the snow up here in Canada, and going camping in the wilderness every once in a while. First things first. Always bring someone with you, or if you're confident enough at the very least let someone know where you're going to be just in case. For extras I would say a shovel is great, and bring possibly a hatchet or small saw at the minimum for trail running. Recovery gear of course such as your tow strap. To have in your glove compartment always a lighter, and something that could help you start a fire incase you do get stuck. For this kind of thing as well, couple cans of soup because you just never know.
Sir; as someone who lives in mountains I completely understand your wanting to go down the hill in forwards. Good decision to attempt again so you went back down forwards. Single scariest thing is to try and back down with cliffs on the side.
do it in a loaded semi backing in the dark! its sheer puker power
Great real world review. Sometimes things can go awry very quickly, it takes some thinking to get out of bad situations like that and I’m glad you did. Driving in snow is a whole different animal, it takes some skill to get through it.
Why didn't you try hill descent control?
CarGuy11 my thoughts exactly
Does he have it? I didn't hear him mention that as a feature.
He does. At start he shows the button and talks about it.
@@americanparser He literally talks about it at the beginning of the video. He even discussed controlling the speed via the plus and minus in his shift lever. Crazy!
@@speedRacer05 Yup, I missed it. Could be insanity. Or, it could have been a simple human oversight. I don't know. Tough to call.
Well done. The comments are a little tough, but at the end of the day , you showed what the truck can do and truthfully what you can do under pressure alone in the snow. I tip my cap to you. And Chevy too. 👍🏼
Good lord man. Buy an EZ deflator. My hands froze just watching you.
or KEYS!
Yes exactly
Omg 😱 that’s how I was. So scary. Glad you made it. Thanks for the helpful tips. (Tow ropes, shovel and traction board) purchasing now!
I thoroughly enjoyed this video.
I think when you ran into the ice when going to uphill you should have avoided the trail made by previous vehicles. Usually the snow melts a bit and refreezes into ice. And nothing is worse than ice. You should have only driven on the part where there is fresh snow.
Aside from that, there wasn't much you could do besides get proper snow tires which would have given you more grip all around.
I speak from my own experience with a 4WD vehicle in the winter.
This is true to a point. Sugar snow that results from freeze thaws sometimes build up in the middle of the road due to other vehicles packing it down and you don't dare get off of it. I ended up rescuing some jeeps a few years ago that made that mistake on a pretty good grade. Took a bit to get them back on the tracks. They were in danger of going over the edge.
In cases like this where the whole center isn't packed I like getting off the beaten part of the track when going down hill. Helps slow you down. Hopefully not deep enough to mess up your steering too much.
The ZR2 Bison is a god damn beast.All other trucks is just child's play
Tires should have been aired down much lower than 26psi. In those conditions it would be a huge improvement. And slowing down/ losing momentum on that up hill was crazy. Also on the descent I understand your arguments for using 4hi to get stability control working maybe that's the better way but on steep slippery downhills I was taught to use 4low with the transmission in low 1st gear. U get an incredibly low gear doing that and descend at a very slow controled speed.
Only commenting because you wanted to hear what we thought. Great video.
There's no feeling like getting out of snow after getting stuck in the snow for some time that feeling is such a relief
27:43 That bird showed up to watch how stupid this guy is! Haha same reason I'm still watching at 27 mins in.
Yah, you beat me to the punch. I was picturing what the bird was thinking watching these "human" fools try to conquer nature. Does that chevy fly? fools.
That bird showed up cuz it thought it had a potential meal in store for it.
That front locker was doing a great job at 16:30 lol
I was thinking he forgot about the front locker as he does not mention activating it and by the looks of the tire spin it's not activated.
So, I'm at 25:16, and having been in this situation a few times myself, I can tell you that the problem is the snow that is packed underneath the vehicle. You want to reach the shovel underneath the truck to pull the snow out that is high centering the truck. Focus on underneath the engine and the front control arms, and underneath the rear axle. If that isn't enough, then start digging out more under the center of the truck. I was in this situation myself yesterday, actually, in my Tundra. I had the bright idea of driving through a deep, packed snow drift, and ended up stuck hard. I self recovered in about 15 minutes by digging out underneath of the truck with the shovel that I always keep in there. BTW, I've got Blizzaks on my Tundra in the winter, and they do a great job of churning through deep snow like you saw in the Colorado.
He needed Blizzaks, big time.
@@pokor5791 I've got Blizzaks on my Tundra, and they work wonders. They would have definitely gotten him up that hill with no issues. Still doesn't help you if you frame out, though. Especially here in Manitoba, where the drifts can be rock hard.
@@chrisgleeton6823 I agree, we had 24 inch storm with heavy snow temp right at freezing. Nothing but a plow was getting me out of my uphill rural driveway.
This was a excellent video about the awsome and the danger, and how to deal with offloading situations. Thanks great job Ryan.Eric
This was fun to watch👍
Two thoughts, It seamed like you put the transmission in 1st gear, when in snow or ice you want to start in 2nd. Also, when descending, if you try to limit wheel speed too much for the conditions then it the same as locking the brakes and you slide.
This guy just proved how inexperienced he is in the mountains, and I bet he felt pretty proud for getting out of there alive. LMFAO street queens...
I've been 4 wheeling in the snow since 1987 and I've had the same butt pucker moments you had. Thanks for sharing!
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If you had a real off-roader like a Rubicon, you would’ve had way less of those pucker moments.
@@danr3545 And way more repair bills!
ZepG or way more gas bills with that whale of yours! 😂😂
@@danr3545 Lay off the alcohol and give me a coherent response later.
Man I hate it when it snows that much and you get stuck like that. That’s how I fried my transmission, trying to get out of the snow and digging myself into a deeper hole. The shifting going back and forth costed me almost $4,000. It was a AWD suv though. This was an entertaining video to watch. Very scary stuff when you start sliding down hill like that. Very easy to spin out of control. Like the content, Subscribed! 👍
I've been in almost the exact same situation 40km up a snowy logging road in BC. As I climbed higher the snow got deeper and deeper until i couldnt move forward anymore. It would have been fairly easy to back out, but i got really stuck when I attemped to turn around and started to shovel (just like in this video). Oddly enough a logger had snow shoed past where I was stuck and was driving a big excavator out of the bush and was able to clear a pad and then hook his bucket to a toe rope to drag me around so i was pointed down hill. I was with a friend and we had xc skiis, winter sleeping bags, and a few days of food, but i bet it would have taken hours to shovel enough waste deep snow to be able to turn around.
I don’t understand why people on here are trash talking this test..did you want a fake test or a real world test. It just shows that these trucks with tough names aren’t going to save you like you think. You live in la la land if you believe it. Great video. Eff the people on here crying
Goes without saying, your best video ever!
Now that’s what you call putting it to the test! Good job
epic, Ryan, just epic
Ok, at first I thought cool, driving in lots of snow, but then I said, I am so glad I live in the South. We don’t get much snow, but we do sometimes get ice. Forget the snow. Warm beach sand for me.
“I come prepared”
Wears jeans in the snow
comptonassimps
What are supposed to wear?
Agent. K. Ski pants? Nylon? Anything water-proof, because you know when snow melts it turns to water right?
Agent. K. Gortex
Agent. K. Swim trunks and a bra
At least he had an adidas track jacket lol
My 6.2 AT4 has no issues in that kind of snow. Chains and low tire pressure will work wonders in that stuff. Great review!
Love that color! Can’t believe it didn’t melt the ice and snow for you bc it’s FIRE! Edit: LOVE the Colorado btw!! Great truck! Best in segment!
So much practical to watch for a new buyer on truck like me . thanks
I wonder how much snow tires would have helped.
Joe Larson not as much as tire chains
Joe Larson First thing I thought is where are the winter tires... duratracs are ok in winter but still dont even come close to a proper set of winters. I run cooper discoverer m+s with the 3 peak and studs and ive never had a problem in snow up to 4 feet.
Same here, Coopers are the way to go, 12 years using them in Canadian Winters
friskycrewgerrusty Yep!! Ive been using them in BC for 10 years now. This year I had to buy new ones again so I got the motomaster total terrain w/t which is made by cooper and the tread is almost identical but its slightly deeper. So far so good with 2 months of snow and ice.
Duratracs are 3 peak mountain rated.
The Bison is definitely an exciting truck for anyone with serious plans for off-road. Looks good and performs good!
Tom Gill Chevrolet yeahh... this video was very convincing...did you buy one?
There’s a point in thus video where you go from being entertained to feeling really and for thus guy
What a great lesson on mountain blizzard driving. Good to know here in Colorado.
Why didn’t you lock the front wheels @16:30 one of the front wheels wasn’t spinning.
There is no front locker. That's the main reason.
American Parser yeah there is
@@zz-hj9zi z z I guess you're right. At 1:27, he mentions "locking differentials, and I confirmed front and rear on a Car and Driver review.
American Parser ohh there was never a chance I was wrong so keep your mouth shut next time
@@zz-hj9zi Wow. Maybe I wasn't clear, Z.
I said I was wrong, you were right, and, by implication, I apologize for jumping the gun on that one.
I thought it was a very good video. Nice to see what the Colorado ZR2 can do in some pretty challenging conditions. The tires could probably be better but that's what the truck comes with. Thanks Ryan enjoyed the ride! I have 2018 ZR2 but haven't challenged it yet like this.Ryan seems so calm and collected, I would love to see the unedited version lol
Don't head for that Starbucks, Steve. There's ALWAYS a looong line. :)
Love it when these city locals try to head up to the mountains. Also love pulling them out of ditches lol
I'm sure others have said this. But I can't help it. - If I was going to take on these type of conditions, I'd make sure I had studded snow tires. - All terrain tires or ones that say mud and snow are NOT snow. There is a difference.
I have a Falken Wildpeak A/T3w. There are good in snow but on ice is not much. Studded winter tires would be much better as you mentioned but regular winter tires wouldn't do much. When you offroading in deep snow and ice, you need a chains to get most grip :)
Hey man, nice trip! I like that you went alone and worked hard to get out. Your way and mine might be different, but nice video!
Great truck review!
Man I'm sorry, been there in the snow. Three times stuck, I don't fool around with it any more without another rig. Liked your review though, been thinking of these and I'm pretty sure I'll be getting one now. Thank you.
16:21 Lockers? dont seem like they really lock, lol
It has an actual front locker. Based on this guys "skill" im guessing it wasnt engaged / he didnt engage it properly. Dude should not have been out there with 1 vehicle / by himself
He didn’t hold the front locker button so it still had stability control and the other bs on so it’s still torque vectoring to single wheels
I have the ZR2 and I noticed the same thing at 16:21. When you go above a certain wheel speed, the front lockers will disengage automatically. I had a 2004 Jeep Rubicon that did the same thing.
Kerry Martin you need to hold the button down to turn off esp and stability control it will lock the brakes before it kicks the lockers it will over run 4-low and smoke your diff otherwise
He didn't have off-road mode engaged. You have to go slow or engage off-road mode to have lockers stay engaged over 25mph. So a little wheelspin and they could turn off without off-road on.
Not gonna lie. When I first moved to Utah from Georgia I found myself in one of these situations up Bountiful Peak in a stock F150 after a snow storm. Never again.
Good lesson learned!🍻🤘
Ahhh. The "B" .
I need to get up there soon. 😁
I laughed way too hard watching this video!😂 Perfect example of what not to do!🤪 Hey at least he had the balls to post this! If I were him, I would had waited for better weather for a re-do! Better than looking like an inexperienced moron! Had the deer in the headlights look on his face when it began to slide!🦌😯😂😂😂
Have you ever done this before? This looks like an offroad trip to me, just tough when your solo. He should have brought chains, but he said in the beginning he wasn't expecting so much ice from the thaws.
@@solen1849 no I have not. I do know I wouldn't have gone alone. If I were to ever go on an off road adventure like this, it would be in a group of experienced people.
Idk but right in the beginning him telling me it’s not a push start was like the icing on the cake for the truck to me
I could watch your snow videos all day long. Any chance of a Chevy Trax AWD Snow Review coming?
Don't have a Trax on the schedule yet.
@@drivingsports How do you think a Subaru with X-Mode will perform in those conditions?
Proper snow tires or 3 peak rated tires would've made a difference for sure. Not night and day...but enough to help. Can't believe I'm just now seeing this video. Nice job Ryan!
Duratracs are 3 peak rated.
I noticed at 16.22 youve got all lockers on and of road mode and gunning it but your front drivers wheel is not spinning, is this a breaking mechanism?
Only rear locker was engaged at that time I think.
@@RyanRKJ He said a few moments earlier that he was going to engage both lockers and offroad mode. When he said "break out all the guns".
Yup, I just reviewed the footage from that section (unedited) and the front locker was enabled at that point.
@@drivingsports Wow, that seems like something is wrong on the Bison.
@@drivingsports So then this shouldnt happen? im confused
Great video and review as always but be CAREFUL man!!! Those hills are no joke.
I have wheeled these types of conditions for decades.. You have Far to much air pressure in those tires. Should be in single digits.
Ahh, that Pacific Northwest wet snow. People don't really understand it until you've experienced it. A TJ Jeep Wrangler got stuck when it was trying to get me out.