1 of the best build videos ive seen. Especially because your show the entry level version at the end. How have i mever come across your videos before? Subbed! Cheers lurkin
Great build!!! Was initally trying the full lightning spear, but with out the ubers, struggling. Even with the hybrid version of this build, doing so much better!! Thanks!
This is the most fun build I have played on Diablo 4 yet. The guide goes in depth where it needs to and stay simple for other parts. I tried fireball and chain lighting which were good for early and mid game, but this build takes it to another level for T8 Hordes. Today I solo'd a 3 man horde with ~600 Aether. The only problem I have is high level pits. I am abled to get to the 125+ bosses in no time but proceed to only tickle them... haha Thank you for this build Lurkin, please keep them coming for future seasons!
Found your written guide on Mobalytics first and just here to thank you for the build and well written guide out there! Blasting through the t7 hordes even without ubers rn, which my prev fireball sorc was too squishy for 💥
Good morning! Congratulations on the constructions. I'm using Hybrid because I haven't found any Mystics so far, but I'm really enjoying it. He gained a follower. Hugs!!! - Sorry my English, it's google translation
I just finished this build last night, I got everything on it and for the first time ever I beat Lilith and I can get past a T8 relatively easy. First time ever I got the Shako with 2 affixes and cooldown is one of the great affixes and I farmed the Winterglass with the +6 conjuration mastery great affix with 0.3 cooldown. I love this build so much.
This build is so much fun. I was struggling to enjoy Lightning builds (can't stand the cadence of Axial Conduit pants + no Ubers for Spear), & then I tried the Jon Snow variation. Wow!! I love it because it plays like a melee character, & it has great survivability too. This was my 4th alt in Season 5 but I think it will be my starter for VoH; I'll play a Spiritborn after that =)
This build is really good. I've done a 144 pit with it and my buddy with a mirrored build as mine has done 145 Pit. We think 146 may be on the table. Some changes to the build, not one for one, but a mash up of multiple Jon Snow builds, lol.
Found you through Petra. Great build. Way better than the fireball. Although I don't love how much of the play style is simply flood screen with things, rather than aim. Was finding myself very squishy as fireball and got a doombringer (only second uber this season) so I swapped out Storm Swell. Been great so far. Loving the DR from doombringer. Thanks for your work.
fireball didn't win the race, but it won our hearts. I would not remove storm swell. remove shredding blades (that has replaced accel in the guide). i did damage testing. storm swell is bugged and double dipping with ice armor active. triple damage when enemy is also frozen
Hi, can I run this build without Fractured Winterglass or is it essencial? I am lvl 80 flamewall/hydra and thinking about swap to your build. Thank you :)
What if you replaced snowveiled with orange herald and then used "The oculus" wand for the free teleport stack. Wouldn't you get more conjurations from unstable currents? Curious to hear your thoughts!
I don’t think spam casting oculus evades count for UC procs. If you just meant for teleporting more, I don’t think any gain you could get would outweigh the loss of a damage aspect. You’d need to make 41 conj versus the 30 I can get to make up for just the 30% aspect loss
Hi Lurkin, I saw your paragon board for Uber (Hybrid for Horde) On the Ceaseless Conduit board, Galvanic Catalyst's bonus 10% lightning dmg requirement is not met. It was updated from 480 dex requirement to 540. We only have 520 dex total. Is it by design? thank you.
We don’t need the 10% lightning damage it doesn’t really matter. You can move some points around to meet the dex if you want. Its really not a big deal
Hi friend, what is the definitive build? I don't understand it in Mobalytics. Uber (Tankier) Endgame Starter Uber (Max Damage) in the skill tree they are different?
Hi Lurkin, did you remove Flame Shield from the Uber (Tankier) variant on mobalytics? EDIT: I'm sorry. Misread a line in the build. • Can run Flame Shield over Unstable Currents or Ice Blades If i run Flame Shield over Ice Blades, is there any changes in skill points distribution?
In the endgame build you said we can drop flame shield for ice blade in order to have more conjurations out. If I do that, where do you recommended using it? Thanks in advance!
hey sorry i am a full on beginner and maybe you explained it but i don‘t get it. So my question is: I can build by my sorc after your starter build until i have the fractured winterglass? Then i use the endgame guide and switch my skill tree. I hope i got that right (your build on the mobalytics website)
Yeah I believe everything works like that. I’d use fireball or something easier until you have esus and Tal Rasha tho. They add a lot of damage but are very easy to get from varshan
It definitely can from the endgame version. Starter would be a longer solo because missing a lot of crit and ranks. But yeah pre Ubers this thing still does T8s as showcased in a video I put out after rhis
Hey there, the aspects slotting on moba are different from what you have in the video, regarding the uber setup. Which one should we follow? Thanks for you hard work as always
Newbie here. Still running the hybrid version as I can’t yet triple MW everything well enough to get the CDR down to permacast LS. It’s insanely expensive to get there. For survivability I use temerity pants and a single affix of Life on Hit on any other gear. I never die even on T8, lol. Been doing 110+ pits without too much trouble except for the freaking ling and boring boss fights.
@@Lurkin17 yeah the hybrid feels very powerful indeed. I think in the end it’s either holding FO down and smashing LS as soon as it’s out of CD, or holding LS down and smashing FO to get the maintain the conjuration stacks up and the self perpetuating loop going.
Without snowveiled in the uber version you only become unstoppable during a teleport (not after iirc) so the power/aspect from Tibault's is essentially wasted right? Or am I missing something about the idea to use them for more damage? With snowveiled you would get both DR and damage from them, so I think I'd prefer to run orange herald pants or even snowveiled just to be constantly unstoppable while spamming ice armor, etc. Thoughts?
yeah its wasted, which is why I masterwork life on it. you can drop tyrael's and run snowveiled chest if you get GA damage reduction which is shown in the endgame version
@@Lurkin17 Yeah, that's a good option, thanks. I got Tyraels for the first time so I'll try it first but will do snowveiled pants and see how stable currents uptime is. Orange herald second option and then drop Tyraels and equip Tibaults. Thanks
This is awesome, it's very similar to the build I'm running... 1 question though, i have a GA DR Tyreals so do i still need Axial pants? I would much rather use Tibaults... Thoughts?
I actually like using regular legendary pants with concentration aspect or orange herald for better unstable uptime. Tib is nice early game when you have mana problems but if you have starless I’d drop it.
Is Andariels worse than shako here? It seems its an attack speed focused build, so I thought more attack speed and 15% more damage if you use Tal Rasha might be stronger?
andys is cool to solve attack speed, but i feel super squishy and the build stacks crit not vuln. you can certainly run andariels and rasha if you want. but a good chunk of the power does come from splinter. its like 40% of the damage on single target, and way more if enemies are clumped
Just got my first fractured winterglass, but with a 0.1 cooldown reduction. Is it that bad or is the build still playable ? Should I stick to something else like fireball ? Thank you!
For frozen orb, the 0.1 cooldown is basically irrelevant because most of your conjurations are made by casting. You’ll just miss 2-4 on the top end because of less casts. But my personal build has a 0.2 roll there with no MW hits and I still can get 35 out of
Sir ty for the build and i have a question, going to swap from fireball to this one.. i dont have shako still but i have tyrael and starless ring.. what helm i can use for this build? I wanna Build probably the tankiest one (with vyr) is a big problem with no shako?
no shako no problem. you cast a lot which gives you back your ice armor by spending mana. You could do Snowveiled helmet and Tibault's pants for the DR unstoppable
@@Lurkin17 Ty for the reply legend! Ill follow your advices! Started to build it yesterday and did tier 7 in no time with no optimized gear! Beast build ❤️
You were in the kitchen with hydra + tyraels I will have to revisit that video... Just got a tyraels in hardcore and leveling with it sounds heavenly@@Lurkin17
Hey question for your endgame fireball build can I sub the pants for tibs I have a nice 2 GA of it is it important to have tempers of warmth and freeze and the conjugation aspect?
I run similar with wand and focus. I never considered NOT using tal rasha. Is the attack speed better than having 4 stacks? (I have a poison temper on the wand) I do have other ubers, shako, tyreals, starless. What do you think? I don’t have an atk spd GA ring to try it with If you think it’s amazing, I’ll find one Also I can’t run tibaults, my current pants have all the frickin armor. Soon as take them off it’s like 6500. Ugh
why do you have a poison temper on a frozen orb build? you really want the cast twice temper. thats the whole issue with rasha. going from60 to 80% is 12.5% more damage. but going from 30% more casts to 60% more casts is 23% more damage. frozen orb also scales with attack speed because the more attacks, the more conjurations. i dont understand why every build has starless and tal rasha. attack speed is king. tal rasha is out unless you can afford the lhc poison temper, use andariels, or dont need attack speed like on meteor or incinerate
sorry if i missed it but yoyr build breakdown shows tal rasha and then the other ring is cd chc and att spd. what is the other ring and aspect. currently in running fireball but i plan to switch as a have a near perfect hourglass i want to try out. @Lurkin17
i’m somewhat confused i have similar gear to your no uber build but the most conjurations i can get out is 13 before they start dropping. what am i doing wrong?
Whats the biggest differnce from 2hand vs 1 hand 1 offhand setup? Im early build dad gamer i have staff with FO enchant is that ok to start early / mid endgame with?
I second this! Scored a Tyreal's and immediately farmed my first tier 7 last night. That build slaps! Have a Shako and ROSS too. @Lurkin are you saying that the build can be better with a Lucion vs Shako?
Even if i have the full gear requirement for the pure lightning build i prefer this one, idk what im doing wrong but pure lightning spear feel weaker for me. Full mw x2 ga on all items (i try all the variant)
Pure spear requires crazy masterwork hits to feel good. I’ve built it at 48% CDR and felt terrible. Mekuna makes the strongest sorc builds on the planet, but the gear reqs are always insane
Great build! I’ve been having the most fun and the most bad luck this season haha I am not finding any of my uniques despite me target farming them. I don’t even have a fractured winter glass yet🙂↕️
When you evade it gives 125% move speed which will convert to the full 40% or when you have all your conjuration up it will also go up to 40% without the need to evade for the ms buff
Is this viable with a 0.1 CDR Winterglass, I already found 3 Winterglasses but the game trolls me, all are 0.1 CDR (other stat rolls very good though). Hope it does not rely on LS CDR as much as a pure LS build.
So i tried this but im hard stuck tier 5. No mythic uniques and im pretty much the 0/12 gear example. I have a few 4/12 on. The issue is not damage, but surviving. I can usually make it into 3 waves before dying out. Its really unfortunate but i somehow need to get my hand on a shako and tyrael so i can actually survive 😢
This is something that happened to me when I was playing fireball. I jumped a tier the second I got Shako. Try mage-lord, concentration, and everliving. Warmth tempers help. Shako helped because of keeping ice armor up really. That’s the whole issue
I felt the same, then I masterworked everything I had to 8/12 and could barely do a tier 7, but after barely getting through 2 tier 7s I could masterwork the amulet to 12/12, which helped a whole lot.
I just finished a 2 man tier 8 Horde with this build. Swapped accelerating for Shredding Blades, still have 20+ conj out, ramped on a beefy target, hitting 30 plus mils, staggered damage hit 44 mil. This build is sick, and it's not fully MW on the hits I want, but all gear is 12/12. Don't use Unstable Currents on my build, only diference really.
yeah thats what i like about it. the masterworks dont really matter. there are no CDR checks or anything. the build does its thing. getting better MW hits just makes it slightly better
@Lurkin17 Yeah for sure. The build is nuts. Clesred tier 8 counsel in a minute. Now I just need a GA conj mastery, .03 conj CDR and max bottom stats Fractured Winterglass, lol.
@@HYPURRDBLNKLdo you have any tips for a hardcore player who's a lil scared about tier 7 and 8? I could virtually afk in tier 5, only scary thing in tier 6 is poison (when is that not scary), and I have even tried tier 7. I did drop a tyraels, no shako. Been rocking temerity up to this point and it does help keep tyraels up in tandem with Warmth. Side note, I'm currently fireball but have a 79 frozen spear alt that I'm gathering gear for, ty in advance
@droid5785 Not really, you HC cats are a different breed, lol. It's very rare I die, but it can happen. I use Shako, and Tyreals and ROSS. MY build is a little different than what Lurkin is showcasing here. I'm using his OG skill tree and Paragon, for season 5, and I don't use Unstable Currents. I dropped Accelerating for Shredding Blades. The build is solid. I farm tier 7's, 8's aren't super hard but the chance to get nuked with AOE goes up, so for you I'd probably stay at 7.
Bro...Fractured winterglass + snowveiled + tibaults is cheating. I switched to this build at 77.. it was alright until i added on tibaults. Then it just got stupid. It was like leveling a barb lol For the record.. i dont have any ubers currently
tried it and i really like 1h + focus combo, with 100% attack speed its really satisfying to watch, on boss i switched to staff, so i can kill elite/boss faster before they kill me bec im too lazy to dodge lol
How so. I hit 60 on the dot. Then 40 from esus. The 85 rule is only to proc splintering. Once splintering is procced, the chains have their own crit chance that is not able to utilize the +15 from lightning spear. And frozen orb wants 100 as well. Splintering aspect is NOT lightning spear. They are separate entities the same way blizzard and glacial are separate
Low gear required LMAOF 3 Ubers and one of the hardest Uniques to get and with damn you’re perfect Mastercrafting 😂 I’m sorry but low gear required as a joke.
looks like you didn't watch the fucking video. go to the T6 run idiot. you really think the way i smashed that T8 if i slapped on decent 8/12 legendaries in those slots i wouldnt have done the same fucking thing. you people annoy the living shit out of me. see 3 mythics, comment to complain and stop watching. i am the only goddamn content creator that makes sure the builds perform at a high level through all stages of the gearing process.
We stand with u, also infinite rep for sparks is a thing so realistically mythic uniques are the only guaranteed part of the build!!! Fk this guy and the D4 badders @@Lurkin17
@@Lurkin17I get what you’re saying but no way would you be blasting t8 with decent rolls on 8/12 with no mythics. It’s just not gonna happen. Just don’t have the survivability without a % damage reduction tyreals. I have a giga chain lightning build sorc, no winter glass though and I can nuke the though t6 but I have 23k health and I can still get 1 tapped through like a half or quarter barrier and I’m full 8/12 rolled
@@mikeiscoo2This! From what I’ve seen the use of mythical in all these builds is mainly for survivability or to add a bit more DPS to kill things faster. Yeah sure these builds are functional w/o them , but you WILL die a lot easier as a result of not having them. Which, if you can’t even complete content then what’s the point
1 of the best build videos ive seen. Especially because your show the entry level version at the end.
How have i mever come across your videos before?
Subbed! Cheers lurkin
Great build!!! Was initally trying the full lightning spear, but with out the ubers, struggling. Even with the hybrid version of this build, doing so much better!! Thanks!
Glad I could help! I take in all the spear refugees. Content isn’t hard enough to warrant how hard it is to build
This is the most fun build I have played on Diablo 4 yet. The guide goes in depth where it needs to and stay simple for other parts. I tried fireball and chain lighting which were good for early and mid game, but this build takes it to another level for T8 Hordes. Today I solo'd a 3 man horde with ~600 Aether. The only problem I have is high level pits. I am abled to get to the 125+ bosses in no time but proceed to only tickle them... haha Thank you for this build Lurkin, please keep them coming for future seasons!
Hahahah I’m trying 140 right now on my trust fund gear, and I also tickle the bosses!!! It’s just the way pit is it’s terrible
Pits are just brutal. I can do 137-150 but my gear is wild
Found your written guide on Mobalytics first and just here to thank you for the build and well written guide out there! Blasting through the t7 hordes even without ubers rn, which my prev fireball sorc was too squishy for 💥
just updated it to
@@Lurkin17Cool, thanks for the heads-up and your efforts! Gonna check it out soon🙌
I tried several sorcerer starting builds and this is the best one by far my friend, and so much fun to play it! Thank you!
thanks appreciate it. shes a ripper
Good morning! Congratulations on the constructions. I'm using Hybrid because I haven't found any Mystics so far, but I'm really enjoying it. He gained a follower. Hugs!!! - Sorry my English, it's google translation
glad to hear! I love this build and have zero plans to make Lightning Spear
I just finished this build last night, I got everything on it and for the first time ever I beat Lilith and I can get past a T8 relatively easy. First time ever I got the Shako with 2 affixes and cooldown is one of the great affixes and I farmed the Winterglass with the +6 conjuration mastery great affix with 0.3 cooldown. I love this build so much.
Isn’t it great!!!! I am collecting all of the lightning spear refugees hahaha
This build is so much fun. I was struggling to enjoy Lightning builds (can't stand the cadence of Axial Conduit pants + no Ubers for Spear), & then I tried the Jon Snow variation. Wow!! I love it because it plays like a melee character, & it has great survivability too. This was my 4th alt in Season 5 but I think it will be my starter for VoH; I'll play a Spiritborn after that =)
spiritborns looking super juicy. maybe start on sorc and see how the Spiritborn meta unfolds!
@@Lurkin17 Yep I see you've updated the build for S6 already, thanks for that!!
This build is really good. I've done a 144 pit with it and my buddy with a mirrored build as mine has done 145 Pit. We think 146 may be on the table. Some changes to the build, not one for one, but a mash up of multiple Jon Snow builds, lol.
That’s awesome to hear. Made it farther than me
Found you through Petra. Great build. Way better than the fireball. Although I don't love how much of the play style is simply flood screen with things, rather than aim. Was finding myself very squishy as fireball and got a doombringer (only second uber this season) so I swapped out Storm Swell. Been great so far. Loving the DR from doombringer. Thanks for your work.
fireball didn't win the race, but it won our hearts. I would not remove storm swell. remove shredding blades (that has replaced accel in the guide). i did damage testing. storm swell is bugged and double dipping with ice armor active. triple damage when enemy is also frozen
What I don't get is in the Pit variant, it says dropped Ice Blades for Flame Shield, but on the ring there is Shredding Blades aspect. Why is that?
Never mind, just understood that Ice Blades are also randomly cast conjurgation skills
Awesome build. Mega fun to play. I think its number 1 in this season
#2 for damage, but #1 in my heart after fireball :D
Going to give this a try as my LS has hit a wall. Only thing I don't have is Starless Skies, what should I use in the interim?
Rasha is fine
Hi, can I run this build without Fractured Winterglass or is it essencial? I am lvl 80 flamewall/hydra and thinking about swap to your build.
Thank you :)
you need winterglass sry for delayed response
I guess I've missed some basic understanding .... how are your hydras coming out when not on cast bar or enchant?
Winterglass makes hydras when you cast frozen orb
I used fist of fate and applied gloves aspect to orb and core atack speed for ring i guess its better this way a lot of CC
What if you replaced snowveiled with orange herald and then used "The oculus" wand for the free teleport stack. Wouldn't you get more conjurations from unstable currents? Curious to hear your thoughts!
I don’t think spam casting oculus evades count for UC procs. If you just meant for teleporting more, I don’t think any gain you could get would outweigh the loss of a damage aspect. You’d need to make 41 conj versus the 30 I can get to make up for just the 30% aspect loss
@@Lurkin17 You're the man!
Hi Lurkin, I saw your paragon board for Uber (Hybrid for Horde)
On the Ceaseless Conduit board, Galvanic Catalyst's bonus 10% lightning dmg requirement is not met. It was updated from 480 dex requirement to 540. We only have 520 dex total.
Is it by design? thank you.
We don’t need the 10% lightning damage it doesn’t really matter. You can move some points around to meet the dex if you want. Its really not a big deal
@@Lurkin17 Alright, just double checking. I love playing your build! Thank you
I have all the mythics for this build is this build good for tormented bosses as well?
Oh yeah. Nuked em
Hi friend, what is the definitive build? I don't understand it in Mobalytics.
Uber (Tankier)
Endgame
Starter
Uber (Max Damage)
in the skill tree they are different?
slight. very slight until the pit variant. It's mainly pants and chest combos
Hi Lurkin, did you remove Flame Shield from the Uber (Tankier) variant on mobalytics?
EDIT:
I'm sorry. Misread a line in the build.
• Can run Flame Shield over Unstable Currents or Ice Blades
If i run Flame Shield over Ice Blades, is there any changes in skill points distribution?
if you have shako no. you will only make 3 ice blades instead of 6 now, but tbh that isn't an issue at all if you are just doing hordes
@@Lurkin17 thank you, appreciate your reply :)
I think I'll try this build. If I can do T6 with affordable gear I'm all for it.
I have a T8 uberless 910 aether run dropping at 6 PM Est
@@Lurkin17 with sorc? Im down. Looking forward to it!
In the endgame build you said we can drop flame shield for ice blade in order to have more conjurations out. If I do that, where do you recommended using it? Thanks in advance!
its a really tough question. you want spear, and ice blades, and teleport is teleport. you either drop teleport or unstable currents
hey sorry i am a full on beginner and maybe you explained it but i don‘t get it. So my question is: I can build by my sorc after your starter build until i have the fractured winterglass? Then i use the endgame guide and switch my skill tree. I hope i got that right (your build on the mobalytics website)
Yeah I believe everything works like that. I’d use fireball or something easier until you have esus and Tal Rasha tho. They add a lot of damage but are very easy to get from varshan
@@Lurkin17thank you for your answer, this video and build helps me a lot
3 Mythic Uniques... But can it get from the "starter" version in the build guide and do the Tormented bosses solo with that gear to progress?
It definitely can from the endgame version. Starter would be a longer solo because missing a lot of crit and ranks. But yeah pre Ubers this thing still does T8s as showcased in a video I put out after rhis
Hey there, the aspects slotting on moba are different from what you have in the video, regarding the uber setup. Which one should we follow? Thanks for you hard work as always
the moba one is supposed to be splintering on the non uber guides. we are having database issues right now and I cannot change any gear
@@Lurkin17 got it, thanks!
Great video! Thank you! I want to try this build and the CL you put up earlier. Is the CL significantly less powerful than this one?
yeah this is stronger than CL by a bit. CL kills the bosses in like 1:30 - 2:15, this is like 35-1:15
@@Lurkin17 Thank you for your quick reply! Love your channel!
Newbie here. Still running the hybrid version as I can’t yet triple MW everything well enough to get the CDR down to permacast LS. It’s insanely expensive to get there. For survivability I use temerity pants and a single affix of Life on Hit on any other gear. I never die even on T8, lol. Been doing 110+ pits without too much trouble except for the freaking ling and boring boss fights.
Glad to hear. I never bothered to go off the hybrid version. Didn’t feel necessary to do so
@@Lurkin17 yeah the hybrid feels very powerful indeed. I think in the end it’s either holding FO down and smashing LS as soon as it’s out of CD, or holding LS down and smashing FO to get the maintain the conjuration stacks up and the self perpetuating loop going.
Without snowveiled in the uber version you only become unstoppable during a teleport (not after iirc) so the power/aspect from Tibault's is essentially wasted right? Or am I missing something about the idea to use them for more damage? With snowveiled you would get both DR and damage from them, so I think I'd prefer to run orange herald pants or even snowveiled just to be constantly unstoppable while spamming ice armor, etc. Thoughts?
yeah its wasted, which is why I masterwork life on it. you can drop tyrael's and run snowveiled chest if you get GA damage reduction which is shown in the endgame version
@@Lurkin17 Yeah, that's a good option, thanks. I got Tyraels for the first time so I'll try it first but will do snowveiled pants and see how stable currents uptime is. Orange herald second option and then drop Tyraels and equip Tibaults. Thanks
This is awesome, it's very similar to the build I'm running... 1 question though, i have a GA DR Tyreals so do i still need Axial pants? I would much rather use Tibaults... Thoughts?
nah use tibs
@@Lurkin17 Thank God, I hate those pants 😅 thanks for answering bud, gonna respec into this build today, cheers, ggs 😊
I actually like using regular legendary pants with concentration aspect or orange herald for better unstable uptime. Tib is nice early game when you have mana problems but if you have starless I’d drop it.
Did the nerfs to sorc affected this build too ? or this build is still fine ?
Was actually a buff to this build. It only nerfed Lightning spear in high tier pits. We benefitted from the higher aspect value
Is Andariels worse than shako here? It seems its an attack speed focused build, so I thought more attack speed and 15% more damage if you use Tal Rasha might be stronger?
andys is cool to solve attack speed, but i feel super squishy and the build stacks crit not vuln. you can certainly run andariels and rasha if you want. but a good chunk of the power does come from splinter. its like 40% of the damage on single target, and way more if enemies are clumped
Just got my first fractured winterglass, but with a 0.1 cooldown reduction. Is it that bad or is the build still playable ? Should I stick to something else like fireball ? Thank you!
For frozen orb, the 0.1 cooldown is basically irrelevant because most of your conjurations are made by casting. You’ll just miss 2-4 on the top end because of less casts. But my personal build has a 0.2 roll there with no MW hits and I still can get 35 out of
Sir ty for the build and i have a question, going to swap from fireball to this one.. i dont have shako still but i have tyrael and starless ring.. what helm i can use for this build? I wanna Build probably the tankiest one (with vyr) is a big problem with no shako?
no shako no problem. you cast a lot which gives you back your ice armor by spending mana. You could do Snowveiled helmet and Tibault's pants for the DR unstoppable
@@Lurkin17 Ty for the reply legend! Ill follow your advices! Started to build it yesterday and did tier 7 in no time with no optimized gear! Beast build ❤️
Thanks for the great video!
Glad you liked it!
Hi sir! Can you recomand a pure hydra build?
I have one. I haven’t built it yet tho
Thank you very much sir! Really apreciate
You were in the kitchen with hydra + tyraels I will have to revisit that video... Just got a tyraels in hardcore and leveling with it sounds heavenly@@Lurkin17
Good job, as always 🤝
Thank you! Cheers!
Hey question for your endgame fireball build can I sub the pants for tibs I have a nice 2 GA of it is it important to have tempers of warmth and freeze and the conjugation aspect?
You can sub the pants for tibs. I just air on the side of defensives. I probably mentioned it beneath the gear section
my fault I might have not seen it thank you :)
I run similar with wand and focus. I never considered NOT using tal rasha.
Is the attack speed better than having 4 stacks? (I have a poison temper on the wand)
I do have other ubers, shako, tyreals, starless.
What do you think? I don’t have an atk spd GA ring to try it with
If you think it’s amazing, I’ll find one
Also I can’t run tibaults, my current pants have all the frickin armor. Soon as take them off it’s like 6500. Ugh
why do you have a poison temper on a frozen orb build? you really want the cast twice temper. thats the whole issue with rasha. going from60 to 80% is 12.5% more damage. but going from 30% more casts to 60% more casts is 23% more damage. frozen orb also scales with attack speed because the more attacks, the more conjurations. i dont understand why every build has starless and tal rasha. attack speed is king. tal rasha is out unless you can afford the lhc poison temper, use andariels, or dont need attack speed like on meteor or incinerate
sorry if i missed it but yoyr build breakdown shows tal rasha and then the other ring is cd chc and att spd. what is the other ring and aspect. currently in running fireball but i plan to switch as a have a near perfect hourglass i want to try out. @Lurkin17
@@Lurkin17 I’m going to try and find a GA attack speed ring and get cast twice and crit dmg maybe. Thanks man
No entiendo como en la primer run comienza con el efecto del sagrario del arco, que es lo que lo activa? perdon por no hablar ingles.
Hello Lurkin. Can i ask is first of fate with summury lacie hit chance 100 percent can boost damage of frozen orb with lightning spear sorc?
yeah you can use fists of fate. drop accelerating and move splinter onto the ring
@@Lurkin17 i can only have one aspect in ring what better frozen orbit or storm swell?
Because i use starless
Maybe I’m counting wrong but following your guide on mobalytics I noticed I had three extra skill points at the end.
The planners are a bit weird right now because of the future updates regarding skill points. I am done for the season, just do your best
i’m somewhat confused i have similar gear to your no uber build but the most conjurations i can get out is 13 before they start dropping. what am i doing wrong?
you attack speed is poo poo most likely
@@Lurkin17 okay thanks for replying
Whats the biggest differnce from 2hand vs 1 hand 1 offhand setup? Im early build dad gamer i have staff with FO enchant is that ok to start early / mid endgame with?
Staff is fine. Slap storm swell on there. It’s just slower casting and harder time getting crit chance and less cooldowns
Love your fireball build
If they fix Lucion to work with illuminators fireball will rise up
@@Lurkin17 I have one at 925 if they do I can't wait
I second this! Scored a Tyreal's and immediately farmed my first tier 7 last night. That build slaps! Have a Shako and ROSS too. @Lurkin are you saying that the build can be better with a Lucion vs Shako?
Even if i have the full gear requirement for the pure lightning build i prefer this one, idk what im doing wrong but pure lightning spear feel weaker for me. Full mw x2 ga on all items (i try all the variant)
Pure spear requires crazy masterwork hits to feel good. I’ve built it at 48% CDR and felt terrible. Mekuna makes the strongest sorc builds on the planet, but the gear reqs are always insane
@@Lurkin17 i have 58cdr tho, idk
If i have starless Ring, is it better to still use tal rasha Ring til i got shako? If Yes which aspect should i drop?
yes, because you want the CDR, drop shredding blades
@@Lurkin17 ok thanks 😃
Great build! I’ve been having the most fun and the most bad luck this season haha I am not finding any of my uniques despite me target farming them. I don’t even have a fractured winter glass yet🙂↕️
Glad you like them! thanks
I'm having mana issues, I have starless though? anything missing?
You can always drop accel or shredding blades whatever I have on stage of the planner you are at, and use a prodigy ring. Tibaults helps a lot
You said you only need 60% crit chance cause esu's is giving 40% but yours says 18.9% or am i just missing something?
When you evade it gives 125% move speed which will convert to the full 40% or when you have all your conjuration up it will also go up to 40% without the need to evade for the ms buff
@@rickastley4141 thanks!
Is this viable with a 0.1 CDR Winterglass, I already found 3 Winterglasses but the game trolls me, all are 0.1 CDR (other stat rolls very good though). Hope it does not rely on LS CDR as much as a pure LS build.
Yeah this build doesn’t care about 0.1 CDR!!! Mine is 0.2 and I pump
@@Lurkin17 For mid game MW 8/12, I still don't have Starless yet, Accelerating vs Shredding Blades, which one you think is better ?
what are those ice "needles" firing from you ? 1:21
those are the artillery bolts from the Uber unique tyraels might. they dont add much damage but its something
@@Lurkin17 Thanks !
3 min ago this build was S tier on mobalitics now it's A tier... is this based on kill speed on T8 boss kill ?
reload maybe. I see S. i killed T8 boss in 23 seconds recently
@@Lurkin17 yea now its back to S but it was for a few min on A tier
I'm trying this out now to replace the Fire Ball Bouncing.
same, hopefully its stronger
oh she is. much much stronger
how you can proc tbaults pants?i
Telport makes you unstoppable for a brief moment
@@Lurkin17 seconds?
Tibaults damage last for 5 seconds after unstop. You simply don’t get the unstoppable
Can I run fist of fate instead of reg gloves?
you can run fists of fate. replace accel with splintering
@@Lurkin17 I do have both but my gloves don’t have frozen orb. Is there a big dmg difference? This build so much more fun than LS lol
So i tried this but im hard stuck tier 5. No mythic uniques and im pretty much the 0/12 gear example. I have a few 4/12 on. The issue is not damage, but surviving. I can usually make it into 3 waves before dying out. Its really unfortunate but i somehow need to get my hand on a shako and tyrael so i can actually survive 😢
This is something that happened to me when I was playing fireball. I jumped a tier the second I got Shako. Try mage-lord, concentration, and everliving. Warmth tempers help. Shako helped because of keeping ice armor up really. That’s the whole issue
I felt the same, then I masterworked everything I had to 8/12 and could barely do a tier 7, but after barely getting through 2 tier 7s I could masterwork the amulet to 12/12, which helped a whole lot.
where can i get fractured winterglass....
Lord zir using blood. I have some extra drop your tag I’ll add you tomorrow
@@Lurkin17 thank you! i'm new, still figuring out this game, my battlenet is Zachy0514 #1988
@@Lurkin17 i just got to lvl 79 and tier 4, i don't know what blood is
I just finished a 2 man tier 8 Horde with this build. Swapped accelerating for Shredding Blades, still have 20+ conj out, ramped on a beefy target, hitting 30 plus mils, staggered damage hit 44 mil. This build is sick, and it's not fully MW on the hits I want, but all gear is 12/12. Don't use Unstable Currents on my build, only diference really.
yeah thats what i like about it. the masterworks dont really matter. there are no CDR checks or anything. the build does its thing. getting better MW hits just makes it slightly better
@Lurkin17 Yeah for sure. The build is nuts. Clesred tier 8 counsel in a minute. Now I just need a GA conj mastery, .03 conj CDR and max bottom stats Fractured Winterglass, lol.
@@HYPURRDBLNKLdo you have any tips for a hardcore player who's a lil scared about tier 7 and 8? I could virtually afk in tier 5, only scary thing in tier 6 is poison (when is that not scary), and I have even tried tier 7. I did drop a tyraels, no shako. Been rocking temerity up to this point and it does help keep tyraels up in tandem with Warmth.
Side note, I'm currently fireball but have a 79 frozen spear alt that I'm gathering gear for, ty in advance
@droid5785 Not really, you HC cats are a different breed, lol. It's very rare I die, but it can happen. I use Shako, and Tyreals and ROSS. MY build is a little different than what Lurkin is showcasing here. I'm using his OG skill tree and Paragon, for season 5, and I don't use Unstable Currents. I dropped Accelerating for Shredding Blades. The build is solid. I farm tier 7's, 8's aren't super hard but the chance to get nuked with AOE goes up, so for you I'd probably stay at 7.
BEST BUİLD
Why jon snow
i went with a game of thrones theme last season and it just stuck
Sick build
She rips. Runs the same broken amulet pure splintering does 😂 makes it the second best build
Bro...Fractured winterglass + snowveiled + tibaults is cheating. I switched to this build at 77.. it was alright until i added on tibaults. Then it just got stupid. It was like leveling a barb lol
For the record.. i dont have any ubers currently
The amulets busted. Frozen orb is super fun and eating good. The tibaults snowveiled combo is insane
tried it and i really like 1h + focus combo, with 100% attack speed its really satisfying to watch, on boss i switched to staff, so i can kill elite/boss faster before they kill me bec im too lazy to dodge lol
yeah i love that we can gear swap in hordes
Too much crit% but good
How so. I hit 60 on the dot. Then 40 from esus. The 85 rule is only to proc splintering. Once splintering is procced, the chains have their own crit chance that is not able to utilize the +15 from lightning spear. And frozen orb wants 100 as well. Splintering aspect is NOT lightning spear. They are separate entities the same way blizzard and glacial are separate
Low gear required LMAOF 3 Ubers and one of the hardest Uniques to get and with damn you’re perfect Mastercrafting 😂 I’m sorry but low gear required as a joke.
did you not watch the T6 with 0/12? its insane the build can even do that. also stay tuned. 6PM Est i have an uberless 910 aether T8 run. hush
3 Mythics = low gear requirement. I wonder what's "high gear".
looks like you didn't watch the fucking video. go to the T6 run idiot. you really think the way i smashed that T8 if i slapped on decent 8/12 legendaries in those slots i wouldnt have done the same fucking thing. you people annoy the living shit out of me. see 3 mythics, comment to complain and stop watching. i am the only goddamn content creator that makes sure the builds perform at a high level through all stages of the gearing process.
We stand with u, also infinite rep for sparks is a thing so realistically mythic uniques are the only guaranteed part of the build!!! Fk this guy and the D4 badders @@Lurkin17
@@Lurkin17I get what you’re saying but no way would you be blasting t8 with decent rolls on 8/12 with no mythics. It’s just not gonna happen. Just don’t have the survivability without a % damage reduction tyreals. I have a giga chain lightning build sorc, no winter glass though and I can nuke the though t6 but I have 23k health and I can still get 1 tapped through like a half or quarter barrier and I’m full 8/12 rolled
@@mikeiscoo2This! From what I’ve seen the use of mythical in all these builds is mainly for survivability or to add a bit more DPS to kill things faster.
Yeah sure these builds are functional w/o them , but you WILL die a lot easier as a result of not having them. Which, if you can’t even complete content then what’s the point
I fucking love this comment lol@@Lurkin17