I really hope that that little boy who was with the fishermen and thought the suitcase was treasure is okay... it breaks my heart he had to experience something so traumatic like that and he was so innocent thinking they found treasure and to open it and find a dismembered body is just so heartbreaking and I cannot begin to imagine the pain his parents must have felt for him and what he experienced when he opened that bag... that poor boys innocence was lost that day 😢I hope he is doing okay and that his family got him some counseling after that event...
My sister has been the lead wildlife biologist on Fishermans Island for years. It was her and her intern (student) that found the suitcase with the torso and head. I remember her telling me when it happened. Thanks for this story Annie!
That must have been seriously traumatising for them both!!! How do you get past something like that!!! It’s horrendous for all the people who found the body parts - just think of that poor little boy!!
@@vickywildman4937 It bothered her, but has said it isnt really uncommon on refuges.I think she found a drowned boy another time. She has been to conferences from all over the states with other refuge biologists and she has seen the least deceased. Its common on wildlife refuges as they are desolate places, suicide as well. She has been a refuge bio all her life. 40 some years.
She had the affair. The day they closed on their brand new $800,000 home, he disappeared. He was found in her suitcases, with their blanket, and their pillow fibers, she was seen on Rite Aid cctv picking up a script to put him to sleep. It’s all there, she is a monster!
Right! I’m not seeing where the confusion is.. when you look at all the details together it’s beyond a reasonable doubt that Melanie was at least involved.
P.s. my personal opinion is that there is too many loopholes to say that she did it !! So that has a person I would say I'm in a limbo until something else has been proven that she did it 😮😮😮
I do find it almost unbelievable that she cleaned the death scene so perfectly, much less where he was supposedly dismembered him with an electric saw. There would be SO MUCH splatter in so so many places (inside the working of the saw, the ceiling, the "human sawdust" would be literally everywhere that couldn't be seen with the human eye)
Even someone from an FBI Crime Lab tech or agent wouldn't be that good. I could not believe that the murder could have occured in any way like the way the prosecution claimed,
@@mollagwenchana6372 she'd have to completely take an entire electrical saw apart, every piece & clean & put it back together! And even then, it'd still be almost impossible to not leave a trace luminol couldn't see.
I totally agree there is no way there would not be some sort of evidence left behind I cut up a large bag of frozen chicken with a circular saw not long ago outside for a bbq and the amount of chicken dust left behind would have been an impossible task to pick up every single piece of dust and to clean every microscopic piece off the saw without acid is not possible it gets into everything.I don't believe she did it .
I don't really like how this argument is worded. What is a red flag is how QUICKLY she gave away his belongings, in a SIMILAR bag to what the body was found in. I donate and give way clothing using trash bags all the time, as far as I'm concerned of that isn't unusual. What is unusual to me is how quickly things were given away, and the possibility of the trash bags being similar. That's why I say the wording of your argument is what I didn't like, I obviously agree with the overall statement I'm just being picky with my words because I don't believe the state proved beyond a reasonable doubt. A way to prove that to me is verifying that there are no other possible suspects. The wife having an affair is, by all accounts, the more obvious suspect. Yet I didn't hear much evidence from the state on why they didn't believe the run away gambling addict story. Like I didn't hear anything about police checking the casinos in the area to verify that he was never there, lack of bank statement for the area at said point in time (yeah the argument can be made he paid in cash); like this is the tip of my question iceberg. Do I think she did it? I think OJ did the crime he was acquitted of, yes I think she did it. Do I think the state proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt? No, I'm still left with questions. Even in cases where there is no body, there is better circumstantial evidence than this case. I don't think enough was done.
@@spamachuchan8824OH MY Goodness! I just left a comment and then I started to read the comments, then I found your comment and it's very similar to mine! I mean right down to OJ! Lol...great minds think alike 😊
I once oped a heavy suitcase I found in an abandoned area, next to a larger city. I was convinced it must be remains, what else could it be, I thought! Opened it ready to call the police. But it was like a 150 cd's and dvd! Like original, not something susp made at home. Still don't get it! Why leave the case there?! Still a mystery...
She absolutely did it! How does she explain the forged prescription? Her driving to another state to buy furniture shows me that she was making the need to replace the furniture (namely the green couch) was just an attempt to complicate any potential investigation after the crime. Her dropping off her husband’s car as a prank is such a crock! And how convenient that the husband was murdered immediately after the closing on the new house that he never wanted in the first place. The ‘grieving’ widow would then have a nice home to live in with her lover, assuming she could figure out some way to get him to leave his wife, which I’m sure she felt confident she could do. The fact that the murder weapon was never located means pretty much nothing. Oceans and rivers are mighty big places to conduct a search for something as small as a gun in. That woman can stick to her BS story for the rest of her life, but that doesn’t make it true. Besides, how would it benefit her to tell the truth? Certainly not to ease her conscience, as psychopaths don’t possess one. She wanted to be with that doctor so badly, she probably enjoyed plotting out her husband’s demise.
WHY WOULD AN ABUSED SPOUSE GO PURCHASE A GUN FOR THE ABUSER for "his" protection? This alone makes me believe she's guilty af & with her body language, tone of voice calm, soothing vs hysterical. She didnt ask how bill was killed. Shes right where she belongs.
@@IbelongtoJesus.she’s saying that if she’s not lying about her husband as an abuser, why purchase a gun to protect the abuser (husband)? Doesn’t make sense. She’s an expert liar. Sherry Pepini (?so?) is a great example of some people who lie like this convicted nurse.
She was my nurse at RMA. She was actually amazing. She was the one who called to tell me I was going to be a momma for the first time, after years of struggle. I remember packing my house as we were moving across country back to Oregon and seeing her face on the front of the newspaper and almost falling over from shock. I believe she did it, but I don’t believe she worked alone (though I don’t think it was Dr Miller) I find it suspect that she had her parents pick up her kids and had them stay the night the day after he “walked out” on them. Gave her plenty of time to take care of the body and drive down the Virginia Beach and back. It’s just all crazy.
@@sha2596 I went thru IVF in Aug/Sept 2001. We actually had our egg retrieval on Sept 10th 🫣 I was waiting for my embryo update when the towers went down 😢. It was such a hard time. On one hand, we were so excited to be pregnant, but on the other hand, it felt like the world was falling apart 🥺. That IVF baby is now 21 and amazing ( and my ex and I also managed to have another baby naturally, after everyone said we wouldn’t and she’s now 16 ❤️)
My ex- husband was an RN in the ICU. His patients ADORED him and his coworkers said he was an amazing nurse.. At home, he was a totally different person- he was verbally abusive, cheated endlessly, and spent money to the point that we were in serious financial trouble.
@@caseyjones9214 this exactly and I meant to put that in my original post and spaced it. I remember originally being so shocked and thinking there’s no way she could’ve done this, but as I watched her OUTSIDE of work you could see a clear change in her. She often wore a smirk before and even during the trial of someone who did something and just knew they were going to get away with it. This really just goes to show you have no idea what people are really like outside of work, etc. You only know what they chose to reveal.
As an RN I can assure you that affairs that start in the medical settings are fairly high. Especially between doctors and nurses. We work closely together more than we see our significant others in most settings.
Its mostly bc they are highly sociopathic professions. Same stats with cops, military and lawyers. Abuse, cheating, high stakes divorces. No empathy. No thanks
The medication and the blanket did it for me. If I was on the jury, I would have voted guilty. She is just a good, consistent liar. How would those two females at the end explain that away? She is guilty. If she didn't ACTUALLY do it, she DEFINITELY had a hand in making it happen and, as such, she is guilty.
Despite the horrific reality of these cases, I still love seeing and hearing Annie Elise! One of my favorite true crime youtubers. Keep up the good work!
Hey Annie, so happy u covered this case, I’m a NJ Girl & lifelong Morris County resident where this case took place. It was HUGE around here! My Dr.’s were located in the building she worked, my husband worked for the hospital associated w/this practice right across the street, it was crazy this could b happening in our small community. I have mixed emotions on this case, I have always leaned more towards her guilt. The human sawdust element for me personally was a lot to overcome. All in all very sad kids lost both parents, I know they r doing well, live about 40min from me.
I honestly believe she thought the suitcases would never show up and she never gave her shoes a second thought. She is evil, not a genius, which is why she is behind bars. She committed the crime or she had an unnamed accomplish. Someone killing him due to gambling debt would have killed him straight up and not go to all the trouble to dispose of him the way it was done and then set her up. When she was asked if she is innocent her eyes shifted to the left and she slightly flinched. I saw a liar and a guilty woman. Just my experience as a paralegal that you can take with a grain of salt.
Yes. As someone who grew up in a shady area & had family members on the outskirts of moblike activity, they make a point with their bodies so other debtors know what they face if they don't pay back their debts.
The wildest story I've learned about my life relates to this case! I was born from IVF treatments at the hospital Melanie worked at as a nurse. The doctor who she had been having an affair with routinely saw my parents. It was only one or two years after that when the murder took place which shocked my parents. They had unknowingly been around this woman who had been plotting to kill her own husband while she was helping people to conceive. It was pretty wild to only have heard about all this as an adult when a documentary about her happened to come on while with my parents.
I wouldn't have filed a missing person report on my ex-husband if I hadn't heard from him for days. He would leave and call me from the airport and tell me he was on his way to (wherever), so I definitely wouldn't make a report.
🚩starting an affair at 38 weeks…who does that? 14:00 she thought buying a house in NJ would help their marriage? Stopping the affair might have been a better idea, I’m just saying.sounds like she wanted to stay in NJ in order to keep having her affair. I really feel like she did it. There are too many coincidences and she had the most to gain. I’m not sure if her boyfriend helped, but I do think that someone must have. Annie, loving serialously…listened to your podcast prior to this 😉❤️!
She may have already made up her mind that her husband would go forever, when she had an affair at 38 weeks with the doctor. She was biding time, perfecting her plans to murder her husband and then go back to her doctor lover post Morten. Yep, don’t underestimate her strength because she’s not large. I had seen many nurses who were less than 5 feet tall and small framed, who could turn morbidly obese patients to their sides alone or with help from similar tiny women with EASE. She was using electric saw, that would make such tasks easier in partitioning her husband’s body parts. She probably thought she had committed the perfect murder, but the “human dusts” served as her husband’s angel dusts, sprinkling them back to her. She didn’t hear of this phenomenon until the dusts helped to convict her.
I know right. I’ve never been pregnant but I would imagine that far along in your pregnancy the only thing on your mind is getting this baby out of you because you’re likely very uncomfortable at that stage. Swollen feet, back pain, etc.
She probably didn't think they'd ever find the body. She used their personal luggage and a medical blanket because she just didn't believe his body would be found. Or she believed they couldnt definitively link them to her. She is basically a smart woman, but not that smart. Too much circumstantial and actual evidence. If it walks like a duck.
This woman is an extreme psychopath. There’s nobody else to blame. Thanks for all you do Annie! Also got the Drift you recommended and I love the car freshener and the candle.
I had to pause this video to say wow! Love your new look! And always loved your videos since the beginning. But you are on your way UP! Amazing editing, so eloquent and just speak facts. Truly a great true crime guru. Respect! ❤
This is difficult because I can see both sides. I'll start with how I perceive the cold attitude. I was in a DV relationship and he threatened stuff all the time and had certain patterns of behavior that I just got the point of rolling my eyes when he had his temper tantrum. It also sounds like they were also living different lives, so she had probably already "moved on" to a certain extent. It's hard for people to understand just how much it wears you down when it's a bad relationship. I wish I could remember the names, but there was a case many years ago about a husband and wife that kind of had a similar situation to this. They wanted to stay married and live in the same home because they had two small children. They were both dating. Anyway, the wife went out on a date and it was actually with a serial killer. They had the body though and the evidence that went along with that to know that the husband had nothing to do with it. As for the funeral, again, if you haven't been around people that are just awful to you, you have no point of reference. My grandmother drove a wedge between everyone. When she finally passed away my aunts did a similar f you kind of funeral. They asked everyone to send donation to the Alzheimer's foundation instead of flowers. That's what her husband died of and I know for a fact if she had seen that, furious wouldn't even begin to describe how angry she would have been. No one bothered with the online funeral registry and the people at the funeral home tried to get something started. They didn't understand she drove everyone away and no one had anything nice to say. All that being said, I've seen cases that looked totally like someone was r4esponsible and even spent time in prison to find out 20 years later that had zero to do with it. I know what things look like but at the same time this evidence was circumstantial. I'm also surprised they convicted her. They did say things were left out that could have made a difference. I guess the last case I remember that was extremely messed up, was a DV case. She did in fact kill her husband. The thing is he assaulted her so bad she had to have a colostomy bag at like 24. He did everything to disfigure her and make it so no one else wanted her. They refused to allow those facts in court because the judge said it would sway the jury too much in her favor. I wish I could remember the names. What I remembered was the fact the abusers always seem to get the benefit of the doubt. This is why we don't bother reporting things. No one cares until we are dead.
@@bgqueens6635 forged medicine that’s in his system 😂. The blanket. Moving the car and having his bone dust there. Plus there’s much more. Nothing steers her away from this crime. She’s a deadly woman.
I hate behavior analysts. People react differently to things based on how they grew up how they internalise and process things and just culture in general. People can’t just say how someone should be have in a situation. I have no idea if she’s guilty or not but I had a friend who’s husband had died when they were going through temporary separation and she found out that he was having an affair with her coworker even before the separation and she ended up with so many conflicted feelings but for her it was important to be cool calm and collect during the funeral and she avoided the after funeral gathering because she didn’t want to be the subject of gossip and be there for people to watch and wait for her approached his mistress. Many couldn’t understand her not showing up with his kids but for her that was her way of dealing with it.
I completely agree with you... especially with what we know now about neurodivergent people .. we just can't know for certain! I also feel sometimes ppl can do no right, once they're under the microscope.
Don’t hate all of us. As a BCBA and now clinical psychologist, I would have def considered any ND behaviors, traumas and upbringing. I myself come off as very stoic when I’m upset yet I will not eat and become severely depressed behind closed doors. Childhood trauma caused that.
Almost EVERYTHING about this woman's side of the story is so friggin UNBELIEVABLE!!!!..... CANNOT even take her seriously 😂😮😮...... she is just SOOOO obviously lying about alot of things that SUPPOSEDLY happened in their marriage 😢😮😮
Annie! You killed this story in a great way!!!!! You are absolutely my favorite you tube crime channel! Thank you again. And I personally don't believe she did it. Just not enough evidence for me.
If you just do all your ads in the beginning and get them out of the way early I won't skip them, they really distract from the story. Thank you and you will always be my favorite true crime best friend ❤️
Just a major shoutout to you, @annieelise for always providing us with content! Literally everyday I come to UA-cam to listen to true crime as I go about my day, and it never fails that you have something new for us to binge! Hope you are well! I’m sure I speak for all of your subscribers when I say I’m grateful for your consistent effort in providing us with new information and videos. You deserve some praise for doing all the things! 🎉
She is absolutely guilty. All of the things she's saying now is her just trying to cover herself for the mistakes she made in hindsight. Also, I would ask you, hpw would it benefit her to admit that she killed him? Nobody with a life sentence is going to admit to the crime that got them there.
I’ve made that joke many times too, but in reality, only a very small minority still claim innocence after conviction, even less after appeals start to be exhausted. And, obviously some of those that still claim innocence are undeniably guilty, but we also convict way too many actually innocent people. I have no clue how to fix that, but it is pretty awful for those people and their friends and families.
Started an affair at 9 MONTHS PREGNANT?! I have never had children so I don’t really know but everyone I have ever spoken to says at 9 months they don’t even want to be in their own skin, that lying down is uncomfortable! Never mind feeling up to having an affair!! Wow….
Not necessarily. I was attacking my husband at 38 weeks…but that’s also bc they say sex can help induce labor..and I was literally SO over being pregnant in 110 heat, in the south! I tried all of the old wives tales. I walked our block early every morning before it got so hot, worked 12hr+shifts as a RN in the hospital up until 37 weeks, ate spicy food/peppers, bounced on an exercise ball, drank egg yolks, just craziness…lol.
I can't imagine having the energy to have an affair at 9 months. I just wanted my body back and to see my child. I barely had the energy to take care of business, much less have sex. I didn't want to be touched, didn't want to share air with anyone...I guess some women are up to it, but nobody I know. Lol
Aphrodisiac? Lol. I read all the books and yes it happens for many women. My wife had zero interest in intimacy during any of her pregnancy. I actually found this to be as big disappointment. As for This lady, I think she was planning this way before she even got pregnant. Dr. Brad was a perfect patsy. All her phone calls were completely odd and not at all like normal conversations. Her comments were blunt, short and meant to hide anything going on. Dr. Brads entire conversation with her seemed to be full of key words to indicate he was wired. This is just my opinion of course, but what woman talks to her lover like that. Now her Dad was just too obvious in his stupid attempts to hide her involvement. Very child like comments, " if you know what I mean"
@@ronhall5395 I was ummm, really into sex the first 6-7 months I was pregnant, but by the 8th month or so, I was over the whole thing and ready for the baby to get here. What amazes me is that he was that attracted to a woman who was that far along with another man's child, who she went home to every night, etc.. It just seems strange to me. Maybe because I never would have cheated on my husband. Idk. This bish is just strange all the way around.
I get so annoyed at a spouse who claims the other was such a terrible so and so when the other is in pieces and cannot defend the atrocious accusations!! With NO witnesses or evidence!!!!
I'm a new sub and I just wanna pop in to say Thank you Annie Elise for all your hard work and all your content, it's so refreshing to have a true crime channel that doesn't hype up the drama,that really feels like your listening to a friend explain the case and facts clearly without it sounding patronising or misleading ❤ So massive Thank you and keep up the good work,you are amazing and I can tell by the comment section and follower count I ain't the only one that thinks 💖
So Idk if she did it or not but, there does seem to be a awful lot of evidence that was just overlooked. There also is a whole lot of coincidences as well. Idk I think it deserves a new trial with today's technology that much I do think 🤔🤔. Great job as always Annie love you and your channel and podcast so much..❤
Can we just take a minute to praise Annie for how many videos she puts out, with complete truths, completely laid out, so un-biased (unless a few snarky moments are necessary 😏😉) and sooooo down to earth. You just want to be best friends with her......and its such a stark contrast to Illuminati who puts out so much content but is an awful human being, unprofessional, biased like crazy and many times not even truth is shared!!! Being a professional UA-camr, while putting out lots of content AND being an amazing human is POSSIBLE!!! ❤🎉
Funny you mentioned Illuminati, because I could bet my whole life savings that Annie is gonna be the next illuminati in 5 years. After she made fun of a person’s name, who was just a witness to a crime, she lost me. Plus the fact that she still takes sponsorship money from Better help? I automatically get grossed out when influencers take their money. Better health has been blasted by so many people for being a shitty, HARMFUL, service and I know damn well Annie knows this. She is not an unbiased source. She gives off MAJOR Illuminati vibes.
Not everyone is seen killing their husband or wife. Not everything is on Camera. Most cases are circumstantial. The over bearing evidence here is beyond anything. Totally guilty and you only need common sense to come to this conclusion
Annie! My mom & I watch your vids religiously and it’s so cool to hear you covering a local legend story. I hope you’ll also cover the case of the 4 sex workers found years ago in Atlantic City.
I came from an abusive childhood. My dad was awful to my mom. And verbally abusive to us kids. And then my first boyfriend was very abusive (I guess the saying is true, that girls find someone like their dad!! Even tho I swore that would never happen to me!! He was prince charming on the outside and a manipulative nasty human on the inside.) But, I just will never understand why when women are threatened by their significant other, that their famous words are always "I didn't really believe him/think he was serious/would really hurt me". If you're threatened by ANYONE PLEEEEEASE assume they mean it!!! It's better to err on the side of being too cautious than being dead or injured!!
Can I add to your asute comment if they have conned you once with money or faked anything else expect for it to happen again. Be really careful who you choose to have children with.
She told Brad that she was in the video in her husband's car because she didn't want him to know that she was planning on getting back together with her husband, but she told the cops that she was on the tape because she was playing a prank. You're right she did have answers to questions, just not the right answers. I could put 5 as the answer to 2+2, it's just not correct.
I discovered 10 to life during the gabby petito case…oh how you’ve grown since then ! Well done annie, you’re still the same girl, unlike some others who have let their fame go to their heads….
@@gigiarmany That compliment was made for Annie, I believe. Not for "gigiarmani" (honestly, it's just a little disgraceful to have this type of name, of all the names/nicknames in the world that are given to you to choose from. 🤪 🤭 🫣
when he left, he could've taken the blanket, the lougage, the gun, and have been killed by someone else who used his things to wrape him. they didn't find the green couch or had evidence that they had one. the trash bag are not conclusive, also how did she cleaned the house so perfectly? but, on the other hand, the google search looks guilty, also the flesh on the car. if she moved the car, how did the killer knew where it was and used it, for what? because of the latter, i think she did it. people saying "how could she cheat being 37 month pregnant"... it's the same as not being pregnant. it doesn't make it worst.
Girl! I’m lovin’ that tan! Such a horrific case. Keep up the amazing work! I always look forward to your videos and give you a thumbs up before it even starts.
Would love to see you cover the case of Virginia Vertetis out of NJ. She shot her cop boyfriend in the back 6x and tried to claim self-defense. I spent a few years incarcerated with her. Wild case.
@maritzasanmartin7775 For the entire state of NJ, there's only one women's prison, so most of them are in the same place, lol. I can't speculate on Melanie's case, but after spending 3y with Virginia, I fully believe she's guilty af. She was the only one who thought otherwise.
Love your vids ,all the hard work you put in to each one. So interesting and the detail and background info is superb.. Thank you and well done. Amazing,💖👌🇮🇪☘️💖
Really enjoy your true crime videos. Appreciate how you provide a lot of background detail on the victims and the in-depth coverage you give on the cases and trials like the Lori Vallow case and trial. Keep doing what you’re doing. I haven’t been disappointed in any of the materials you have shared to date.
She says: "I don't get to be an evil genius and an idiot at the same time.", As she darts her eyes. Yet, every case I watch, they ARE evil and they ARE idiots. GUILTY.
She had help after the fact. Including cutting the body up. Probably on a property. That person was likely a male. He drove her car also. Someone helped move 2 cars. My guess is it’s the father.
This was one of the first true crime stories that got me into true crime. I swear I can remember Bill Kurtis on American Justice covering this way back then but I could be wrong. Thanks for a great video.
1st time hearing of this case & it's a hard one for me... but I think I'm with you on this, I don't think there's enough for conviction & I'm not sure if she did it or not... also I'm surprised this didn't get a lot more media at the time!
Anyone evil with determination can do anything doesn’t matter the size or gender children commit Heynis crimes smaller then her!! 💯💯 she did it everything points to her & they why she did it!! 💯💯 very sad!!
Where there is a will there is a way. Look at Taylor Shabusiness ( or however you spell her name). Recently cut up her boyfriend and chopped him up downstairs at his house while his mom was home. And brought his body parts with her and left his head in a bucket. I think if someone is determined enough, they can do it.
@@amandanicole0214 Taylor Shabusiness is a good example. Plus in this case ^ she'd clearly been planning it for ages, with those google searches and the prescription forging, she had steely determination.
@@joannajamerson35gross is an understatement. I'm disgusted. Like they both cared about themselve not the kids. Definitely not a environment to raise two small kids.
Melanie had the nerve to say they "always put the children first." So, is that what you were doing when you gave Doc a blowjob? I can't stand that woman.
The Prosecution 1000% got it right. She has provided no information on how someone else would have gotten blankets and suitcases from her house for the murder 😅 You can't tell me someone from Atlantic City just had easy access to his home to get all of that without running in to Melanie. Like Nancy Grace said, she should have just posted a Billboard that said "I killed my husband" lmao
If he left the house with plans to stay gone he would have never grabbed suitcases... The blanket could be questionable... But we leave blankets in our vehicles especially if it's cold because if you breakdown you can stay warm until help comes. Black trash bags can come from anywhere... While I agree there is evidence that suggests she could have been a part, it's supposed to be convinced beyond a reasonable doubt. I can't say that I was. I could not put someone away for life if I didn't know for a fact they did it. Especially a mother with 2 young children. Because the questions of "what if" would eat at me. I feel like while not letting go that she was a possibility they should have looked at loan sharks and bookie's, You never know the things they will do if you don't start paying up like you are supposed to. How easy would it be to frame her. Use their suitcases he packed because he was leaving and a blanket he brought with him.
@@IbelongtoJesus.I am not finished with this video but there is a podcast that deep dives into this case and actually talks to experts. It’s really well done. But if I remember correctly her husband had been caught stealing rx pads. I can’t remember all the details but it brought convincing question to this.
Great case AE, wonderful presentation!! Yep, the medication is hard to trip over and the dead husband's tox screen came back positive; didn't get there by osmosis. Too many coincidences, too many explanations...something stinks!
I'm confused... he had "shot gun" wounds to his torso and head.... but the gun Melanie bought in a PA was a 38 special... how could they use that as evidence against her? The wounds don't match! Also the animal hairs.. sus
@@hollydaugherty2620 . Oh my, did I touch a nerve? I'm asking because I can't believe that a grown woman wakes up with only Annie Elise on her mind. Don't be upset. If you like it girl, I love it.
Heck yeah she did it. And they proved it sufficiently. Atlantic City debtors are the alternative? And they went to her house, took trash bags, blankets and other supplies from there just to implicate her? LOL
Love Annie but this one she seems a little biased due to the podcast gals opinions, she was claiming Bryan Khoberger right off the bat and there was less solid evidence than this case. Which I’m not saying he didn’t do it, I’m just saying it felt a little biased on this one. No biggie since she’s already sentenced imo.
At 4:29 there is a picture of Melanie with a black & white dog? Were these her suitcases that she had when she younger when she had a dog? She was living with her parents then before she met Bill
Do you think Melanie is innocent or guilty?
Innocent.❤
Guilty. x10. Nothing is a coincidence & not that many times. We see this narrative from women who kill their spouses all the time.
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I really hope that that little boy who was with the fishermen and thought the suitcase was treasure is okay... it breaks my heart he had to experience something so traumatic like that and he was so innocent thinking they found treasure and to open it and find a dismembered body is just so heartbreaking and I cannot begin to imagine the pain his parents must have felt for him and what he experienced when he opened that bag... that poor boys innocence was lost that day 😢I hope he is doing okay and that his family got him some counseling after that event...
Agree
Murder doesn’t just affect the people in the immediate sphere but it ripples out to so many others.
My thoughts too 😢 poor little guy
I pray that he is ok
He probably got sick
He's about 29 now, however, I, too hope he received therapy.
I’m sure he’s fine
My sister has been the lead wildlife biologist on Fishermans Island for years. It was her and her intern (student) that found the suitcase with the torso and head. I remember her telling me when it happened. Thanks for this story Annie!
wow!! 😳 are you serious? that’s crazy!
That must have been seriously traumatising for them both!!! How do you get past something like that!!! It’s horrendous for all the people who found the body parts - just think of that poor little boy!!
Dr. Miller is currently a practicing IVF doctor in my area! My sister used him to have my niece 😳
@@vickywildman4937 It bothered her, but has said it isnt really uncommon on refuges.I think she found a drowned boy another time. She has been to conferences from all over the states with other refuge biologists and she has seen the least deceased. Its common on wildlife refuges as they are desolate places, suicide as well. She has been a refuge bio all her life. 40 some years.
She had the affair. The day they closed on their brand new $800,000 home, he disappeared. He was found in her suitcases, with their blanket, and their pillow fibers, she was seen on Rite Aid cctv picking up a script to put him to sleep. It’s all there, she is a monster!
Right! I’m not seeing where the confusion is.. when you look at all the details together it’s beyond a reasonable doubt that Melanie was at least involved.
Yep I am not understanding how there is any shadow of a doubt here.
For sure. Where's the doubt?
she is one sick one that's for sure
P.s. my personal opinion is that there is too many loopholes to say that she did it !! So that has a person I would say I'm in a limbo until something else has been proven that she did it 😮😮😮
I do find it almost unbelievable that she cleaned the death scene so perfectly, much less where he was supposedly dismembered him with an electric saw. There would be SO MUCH splatter in so so many places (inside the working of the saw, the ceiling, the "human sawdust" would be literally everywhere that couldn't be seen with the human eye)
Even someone from an FBI Crime Lab tech or agent wouldn't be that good. I could not believe that the murder could have occured in any way like the way the prosecution claimed,
Agreed
The tv show “Dexter” was not yet made at the time but as narcissistic, evil and conniving nurse as she is, she highly likely know how.
@@mollagwenchana6372 she'd have to completely take an entire electrical saw apart, every piece & clean & put it back together! And even then, it'd still be almost impossible to not leave a trace luminol couldn't see.
I totally agree there is no way there would not be some sort of evidence left behind I cut up a large bag of frozen chicken with a circular saw not long ago outside for a bbq and the amount of chicken dust left behind would have been an impossible task to pick up every single piece of dust and to clean every microscopic piece off the saw without acid is not possible it gets into everything.I don't believe she did it .
29:02 The fact that Melanie gave away all of Bill's belongings in trash bags is a red flag that he is not expected to return. 😮
I mean it's not like she could have put them in suitcases 🙊
I don't really like how this argument is worded. What is a red flag is how QUICKLY she gave away his belongings, in a SIMILAR bag to what the body was found in.
I donate and give way clothing using trash bags all the time, as far as I'm concerned of that isn't unusual. What is unusual to me is how quickly things were given away, and the possibility of the trash bags being similar.
That's why I say the wording of your argument is what I didn't like, I obviously agree with the overall statement I'm just being picky with my words because I don't believe the state proved beyond a reasonable doubt.
A way to prove that to me is verifying that there are no other possible suspects. The wife having an affair is, by all accounts, the more obvious suspect. Yet I didn't hear much evidence from the state on why they didn't believe the run away gambling addict story. Like I didn't hear anything about police checking the casinos in the area to verify that he was never there, lack of bank statement for the area at said point in time (yeah the argument can be made he paid in cash); like this is the tip of my question iceberg.
Do I think she did it? I think OJ did the crime he was acquitted of, yes I think she did it.
Do I think the state proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt? No, I'm still left with questions. Even in cases where there is no body, there is better circumstantial evidence than this case. I don't think enough was done.
@@spamachuchan8824OH MY Goodness! I just left a comment and then I started to read the comments, then I found your comment and it's very similar to mine! I mean right down to OJ! Lol...great minds think alike 😊
@@spamachuchan8824 I agree with you. Too many questions were left unanswered.
That is not evidence of murder! What if she was just glad he was gone after he abused her! It was not proved beyond reasonable doubt!
Just a suggestion y'all: if you find a suitcase in the water, near the water, under a bridge, etc ... DON'T open it 😂
You couldnt pay me enough to open a suitcase, totebin or ice chest lol
The Gannon Stauch case sealed that for me. 💙 RIP Gannon.
IKR!?
However, I think if I ever did find one my curiosity would overrun my common sense.
I once oped a heavy suitcase I found in an abandoned area, next to a larger city. I was convinced it must be remains, what else could it be, I thought! Opened it ready to call the police. But it was like a 150 cd's and dvd! Like original, not something susp made at home. Still don't get it! Why leave the case there?! Still a mystery...
And if you come across something that looks like a mannequin, don't approach it - because IT'S NEVER A MANNEQUIN!
She absolutely did it! How does she explain the forged prescription? Her driving to another state to buy furniture shows me that she was making the need to replace the furniture (namely the green couch) was just an attempt to complicate any potential investigation after the crime. Her dropping off her husband’s car as a prank is such a crock! And how convenient that the husband was murdered immediately after the closing on the new house that he never wanted in the first place. The ‘grieving’ widow would then have a nice home to live in with her lover, assuming she could figure out some way to get him to leave his wife, which I’m sure she felt confident she could do. The fact that the murder weapon was never located means pretty much nothing. Oceans and rivers are mighty big places to conduct a search for something as small as a gun in.
That woman can stick to her BS story for the rest of her life, but that doesn’t make it true. Besides, how would it benefit her to tell the truth? Certainly not to ease her conscience, as psychopaths don’t possess one. She wanted to be with that doctor so badly, she probably enjoyed plotting out her husband’s demise.
WHY WOULD AN ABUSED SPOUSE GO PURCHASE A GUN FOR THE ABUSER for "his" protection?
This alone makes me believe she's guilty af & with her body language, tone of voice calm, soothing vs hysterical. She didnt ask how bill was killed. Shes right where she belongs.
Was there proof of the husband abusing her?
@@IbelongtoJesus.she’s saying that if she’s not lying about her husband as an abuser, why purchase a gun to protect the abuser (husband)? Doesn’t make sense. She’s an expert liar. Sherry Pepini (?so?) is a great example of some people who lie like this convicted nurse.
You can’t say what an abused partner would or wouldn’t do. Move along.
@@hannahherrera4003it's a very Amber Heard move. You sound very triggered over someone's opinion.
@@DubsTV93 ignorant 🤣
She was my nurse at RMA. She was actually amazing. She was the one who called to tell me I was going to be a momma for the first time, after years of struggle. I remember packing my house as we were moving across country back to Oregon and seeing her face on the front of the newspaper and almost falling over from shock. I believe she did it, but I don’t believe she worked alone (though I don’t think it was Dr Miller) I find it suspect that she had her parents pick up her kids and had them stay the night the day after he “walked out” on them. Gave her plenty of time to take care of the body and drive down the Virginia Beach and back. It’s just all crazy.
I wonder when she was a nurse there. I did a consult at RMA during my infertility journey.😬
@habsmoves1971 I doubt it was a mistake.
@@sha2596 I went thru IVF in Aug/Sept 2001. We actually had our egg retrieval on Sept 10th 🫣 I was waiting for my embryo update when the towers went down 😢. It was such a hard time. On one hand, we were so excited to be pregnant, but on the other hand, it felt like the world was falling apart 🥺. That IVF baby is now 21 and amazing ( and my ex and I also managed to have another baby naturally, after everyone said we wouldn’t and she’s now 16 ❤️)
My ex- husband was an RN in the ICU. His patients ADORED him and his coworkers said he was an amazing nurse.. At home, he was a totally different person- he was verbally abusive, cheated endlessly, and spent money to the point that we were in serious financial trouble.
@@caseyjones9214 this exactly and I meant to put that in my original post and spaced it. I remember originally being so shocked and thinking there’s no way she could’ve done this, but as I watched her OUTSIDE of work you could see a clear change in her. She often wore a smirk before and even during the trial of someone who did something and just knew they were going to get away with it. This really just goes to show you have no idea what people are really like outside of work, etc. You only know what they chose to reveal.
As an RN I can assure you that affairs that start in the medical settings are fairly high. Especially between doctors and nurses. We work closely together more than we see our significant others in most settings.
To be fair, that's most coworkers.
Its mostly bc they are highly sociopathic professions. Same stats with cops, military and lawyers. Abuse, cheating, high stakes divorces. No empathy. No thanks
Annie, you work incredibly hard and I hope you know how much we all truly appreciate it and you.
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The medication and the blanket did it for me. If I was on the jury, I would have voted guilty. She is just a good, consistent liar. How would those two females at the end explain that away? She is guilty. If she didn't ACTUALLY do it, she DEFINITELY had a hand in making it happen and, as such, she is guilty.
EXACTLY
I have NO doubt she did it.
She is a good, consistent liar, but even she doesn't believe her own lies. She is guilty she's where she belongs...In my opinion.
100percent GUILTY. Did I mention GUILTY
I think she did it but I agree that it is room for doubt and they did not prove her guilt without a shadow of a doubt.
Despite the horrific reality of these cases, I still love seeing and hearing Annie Elise! One of my favorite true crime youtubers. Keep up the good work!
Me too!
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Annie’s the GOAT
I just found your page 2 days ago and I can’t stop watching!! I really love your coverage!!
Hey Annie, so happy u covered this case, I’m a NJ Girl & lifelong Morris County resident where this case took place. It was HUGE around here! My Dr.’s were located in the building she worked, my husband worked for the hospital associated w/this practice right across the street, it was crazy this could b happening in our small community. I have mixed emotions on this case, I have always leaned more towards her guilt. The human sawdust element for me personally was a lot to overcome. All in all very sad kids lost both parents, I know they r doing well, live about 40min from me.
I remember this case when it broke. She is guilty in my book. She just wants someone to listen to her lies all over again.
I honestly believe she thought the suitcases would never show up and she never gave her shoes a second thought. She is evil, not a genius, which is why she is behind bars. She committed the crime or she had an unnamed accomplish. Someone killing him due to gambling debt would have killed him straight up and not go to all the trouble to dispose of him the way it was done and then set her up. When she was asked if she is innocent her eyes shifted to the left and she slightly flinched. I saw a liar and a guilty woman. Just my experience as a paralegal that you can take with a grain of salt.
What kind of Paralegal?
Yes. As someone who grew up in a shady area & had family members on the outskirts of moblike activity, they make a point with their bodies so other debtors know what they face if they don't pay back their debts.
Thankyou for spoiling us like this, you’re on a roll, I hit the like button before I watch it, I just know it’s going to be good.
😊same here.
Sameeee bestie 😅
The medication prescription did it for me. I think she totally did it. Now I do think she had help.
The wildest story I've learned about my life relates to this case! I was born from IVF treatments at the hospital Melanie worked at as a nurse. The doctor who she had been having an affair with routinely saw my parents.
It was only one or two years after that when the murder took place which shocked my parents. They had unknowingly been around this woman who had been plotting to kill her own husband while she was helping people to conceive. It was pretty wild to only have heard about all this as an adult when a documentary about her happened to come on while with my parents.
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I wouldn't have filed a missing person report on my ex-husband if I hadn't heard from him for days. He would leave and call me from the airport and tell me he was on his way to (wherever), so I definitely wouldn't make a report.
🚩starting an affair at 38 weeks…who does that? 14:00 she thought buying a house in NJ would help their marriage? Stopping the affair might have been a better idea, I’m just saying.sounds like she wanted to stay in NJ in order to keep having her affair. I really feel like she did it. There are too many coincidences and she had the most to gain. I’m not sure if her boyfriend helped, but I do think that someone must have. Annie, loving serialously…listened to your podcast prior to this 😉❤️!
It's gross
She may have already made up her mind that her husband would go forever, when she had an affair at 38 weeks with the doctor. She was biding time, perfecting her plans to murder her husband and then go back to her doctor lover post Morten. Yep, don’t underestimate her strength because she’s not large. I had seen many nurses who were less than 5 feet tall and small framed, who could turn morbidly obese patients to their sides alone or with help from similar tiny women with EASE. She was using electric saw, that would make such tasks easier in partitioning her husband’s body parts. She probably thought she had committed the perfect murder, but the “human dusts” served as her husband’s angel dusts, sprinkling them back to her. She didn’t hear of this phenomenon until the dusts helped to convict her.
She probably thought that by purchasing her dream home, she could divorce Bill and be allowed to remain in the house with her new man.
I think it was the stepdad.
I know right. I’ve never been pregnant but I would imagine that far along in your pregnancy the only thing on your mind is getting this baby out of you because you’re likely very uncomfortable at that stage. Swollen feet, back pain, etc.
I saw this on 20/20 or Dateline years ago, either way, she gave me the absolute creeps! 😮
Yes
That time she looked at the camera without raising her head, so creepy.
@@miriamanderson6146 I KNOW, right!?! Ewww, she's scary!
Yep, it makes me glad I'm not married to her😆🥁😆
Yes it was on 48 Hours Mystery on CBS.
I always hit the like button immediately!!!! All of your content is amazing. Thank you very much for all of your hard work!!!
This episode was done very well. I love this channel. Fan for life
She probably didn't think they'd ever find the body. She used their personal luggage and a medical blanket because she just didn't believe his body would be found. Or she believed they couldnt definitively link them to her. She is basically a smart woman, but not that smart. Too much circumstantial and actual evidence. If it walks like a duck.
Thank you Annie! You are so dedicated to covering these cases and it’s incredible. Thank you. ❤
This woman is an extreme psychopath. There’s nobody else to blame. Thanks for all you do Annie! Also got the Drift you recommended and I love the car freshener and the candle.
i agree, she bought the gun a few days in advance which means it was premeditated
Please never stop covering these cases!!! I can't get enough!!!
I had to pause this video to say wow! Love your new look! And always loved your videos since the beginning. But you are on your way UP! Amazing editing, so eloquent and just speak facts. Truly a great true crime guru. Respect! ❤
This is difficult because I can see both sides. I'll start with how I perceive the cold attitude. I was in a DV relationship and he threatened stuff all the time and had certain patterns of behavior that I just got the point of rolling my eyes when he had his temper tantrum. It also sounds like they were also living different lives, so she had probably already "moved on" to a certain extent. It's hard for people to understand just how much it wears you down when it's a bad relationship.
I wish I could remember the names, but there was a case many years ago about a husband and wife that kind of had a similar situation to this. They wanted to stay married and live in the same home because they had two small children. They were both dating. Anyway, the wife went out on a date and it was actually with a serial killer. They had the body though and the evidence that went along with that to know that the husband had nothing to do with it.
As for the funeral, again, if you haven't been around people that are just awful to you, you have no point of reference. My grandmother drove a wedge between everyone. When she finally passed away my aunts did a similar f you kind of funeral. They asked everyone to send donation to the Alzheimer's foundation instead of flowers. That's what her husband died of and I know for a fact if she had seen that, furious wouldn't even begin to describe how angry she would have been. No one bothered with the online funeral registry and the people at the funeral home tried to get something started. They didn't understand she drove everyone away and no one had anything nice to say.
All that being said, I've seen cases that looked totally like someone was r4esponsible and even spent time in prison to find out 20 years later that had zero to do with it. I know what things look like but at the same time this evidence was circumstantial. I'm also surprised they convicted her. They did say things were left out that could have made a difference.
I guess the last case I remember that was extremely messed up, was a DV case. She did in fact kill her husband. The thing is he assaulted her so bad she had to have a colostomy bag at like 24. He did everything to disfigure her and make it so no one else wanted her. They refused to allow those facts in court because the judge said it would sway the jury too much in her favor. I wish I could remember the names. What I remembered was the fact the abusers always seem to get the benefit of the doubt. This is why we don't bother reporting things. No one cares until we are dead.
Agree with everything you said. ❤ Sadly you are so correct.
Yes, agreed. WAY too little evidence in this case for a conviction.
@@bgqueens6635 forged medicine that’s in his system 😂. The blanket. Moving the car and having his bone dust there. Plus there’s much more. Nothing steers her away from this crime. She’s a deadly woman.
Dear Annie today I looked at the subscribers number - Be proud Miss True Crime ! Great job ! Kisses from Portugal 😘
I hate behavior analysts. People react differently to things based on how they grew up how they internalise and process things and just culture in general. People can’t just say how someone should be have in a situation. I have no idea if she’s guilty or not but I had a friend who’s husband had died when they were going through temporary separation and she found out that he was having an affair with her coworker even before the separation and she ended up with so many conflicted feelings but for her it was important to be cool calm and collect during the funeral and she avoided the after funeral gathering because she didn’t want to be the subject of gossip and be there for people to watch and wait for her approached his mistress. Many couldn’t understand her not showing up with his kids but for her that was her way of dealing with it.
I completely agree with you... especially with what we know now about neurodivergent people .. we just can't know for certain! I also feel sometimes ppl can do no right, once they're under the microscope.
Don’t hate all of us. As a BCBA and now clinical psychologist, I would have def considered any ND behaviors, traumas and upbringing. I myself come off as very stoic when I’m upset yet I will not eat and become severely depressed behind closed doors. Childhood trauma caused that.
@@whoome1638 that's fair I can be more open minded that some are actually good.
My absolute favourite Podcaster! Love your content Annie Elise! Thx for always keeping it real 🌸
Wow! Another Series. Girl you just keep pushing. So excited and proud. Love your videos.
Almost EVERYTHING about this woman's side of the story is so friggin UNBELIEVABLE!!!!..... CANNOT even take her seriously 😂😮😮...... she is just SOOOO obviously lying about alot of things that SUPPOSEDLY happened in their marriage 😢😮😮
I just started literally binge watching your videos Annie, and this is the first time I caught a new episode so early!!!
Details please
Ha. Same
Great coverage as usual. Can't tell you how much your attention to detail and fair assessment of the case makes your channel my go to❤❤❤.
Annie! You killed this story in a great way!!!!! You are absolutely my favorite you tube crime channel! Thank you again. And I personally don't believe she did it. Just not enough evidence for me.
If you just do all your ads in the beginning and get them out of the way early I won't skip them, they really distract from the story. Thank you and you will always be my favorite true crime best friend ❤️
There is nothing more frightening than a person that’s guilty with a calm composure.
Annie! I appreciate that you put title cards announcing the ad break 😊 Actually, I appreciate your channel in general 😉💕
I love being here this early! Thanks for always giving us some of the best true crime coverage!!
I have been a member of your patreon for the past few months and I am so to still be a patreon of yours your my absolute 💯 favorite UA-camr ever ❤ ♥
Just a major shoutout to you, @annieelise for always providing us with content! Literally everyday I come to UA-cam to listen to true crime as I go about my day, and it never fails that you have something new for us to binge! Hope you are well! I’m sure I speak for all of your subscribers when I say I’m grateful for your consistent effort in providing us with new information and videos. You deserve some praise for doing all the things! 🎉
She is absolutely guilty. All of the things she's saying now is her just trying to cover herself for the mistakes she made in hindsight. Also, I would ask you, hpw would it benefit her to admit that she killed him? Nobody with a life sentence is going to admit to the crime that got them there.
Nope. They're all innocent in prison😆🥁😆
I’ve made that joke many times too, but in reality, only a very small minority still claim innocence after conviction, even less after appeals start to be exhausted. And, obviously some of those that still claim innocence are undeniably guilty, but we also convict way too many actually innocent people. I have no clue how to fix that, but it is pretty awful for those people and their friends and families.
I always hear the podcast first but always come here to see the pictures!!
Love love the Thursday highlights!!
Started an affair at 9 MONTHS PREGNANT?! I have never had children so I don’t really know but everyone I have ever spoken to says at 9 months they don’t even want to be in their own skin, that lying down is uncomfortable! Never mind feeling up to having an affair!! Wow….
Not necessarily. I was attacking my husband at 38 weeks…but that’s also bc they say sex can help induce labor..and I was literally SO over being pregnant in 110 heat, in the south! I tried all of the old wives tales. I walked our block early every morning before it got so hot, worked 12hr+shifts as a RN in the hospital up until 37 weeks, ate spicy food/peppers, bounced on an exercise ball, drank egg yolks, just craziness…lol.
Nope... being pregnant was an aphrodisiac for me and LOTS of women.
I can't imagine having the energy to have an affair at 9 months. I just wanted my body back and to see my child. I barely had the energy to take care of business, much less have sex. I didn't want to be touched, didn't want to share air with anyone...I guess some women are up to it, but nobody I know. Lol
Aphrodisiac? Lol. I read all the books and yes it happens for many women. My wife had zero interest in intimacy during any of her pregnancy. I actually found this to be as big disappointment. As for This lady, I think she was planning this way before she even got pregnant. Dr. Brad was a perfect patsy. All her phone calls were completely odd and not at all like normal conversations. Her comments were blunt, short and meant to hide anything going on. Dr. Brads entire conversation with her seemed to be full of key words to indicate he was wired. This is just my opinion of course, but what woman talks to her lover like that. Now her Dad was just too obvious in his stupid attempts to hide her involvement. Very child like comments, " if you know what I mean"
@@ronhall5395 I was ummm, really into sex the first 6-7 months I was pregnant, but by the 8th month or so, I was over the whole thing and ready for the baby to get here. What amazes me is that he was that attracted to a woman who was that far along with another man's child, who she went home to every night, etc.. It just seems strange to me. Maybe because I never would have cheated on my husband. Idk. This bish is just strange all the way around.
I get so annoyed at a spouse who claims the other was such a terrible so and so when the other is in pieces and cannot defend the atrocious accusations!! With NO witnesses or evidence!!!!
Excellent as always
I love your videos!! Can we request to use one or two adds per video, I hate all the interruptions. 😂
I'm a new sub and I just wanna pop in to say Thank you Annie Elise for all your hard work and all your content, it's so refreshing to have a true crime channel that doesn't hype up the drama,that really feels like your listening to a friend explain the case and facts clearly without it sounding patronising or misleading ❤ So massive Thank you and keep up the good work,you are amazing and I can tell by the comment section and follower count I ain't the only one that thinks 💖
So Idk if she did it or not but, there does seem to be a awful lot of evidence that was just overlooked. There also is a whole lot of coincidences as well. Idk I think it deserves a new trial with today's technology that much I do think 🤔🤔. Great job as always Annie love you and your channel and podcast so much..❤
So thankful you got your audio fixed!
You tell these stories perfectly! Great job! Love it! 😊
Love ya Annie! I love waking up to a new episode of Seriously. It’s part of my wake up routine
Can we just take a minute to praise Annie for how many videos she puts out, with complete truths, completely laid out, so un-biased (unless a few snarky moments are necessary 😏😉) and sooooo down to earth. You just want to be best friends with her......and its such a stark contrast to Illuminati who puts out so much content but is an awful human being, unprofessional, biased like crazy and many times not even truth is shared!!! Being a professional UA-camr, while putting out lots of content AND being an amazing human is POSSIBLE!!! ❤🎉
Funny you mentioned Illuminati, because I could bet my whole life savings that Annie is gonna be the next illuminati in 5 years. After she made fun of a person’s name, who was just a witness to a crime, she lost me. Plus the fact that she still takes sponsorship money from Better help? I automatically get grossed out when influencers take their money. Better health has been blasted by so many people for being a shitty, HARMFUL, service and I know damn well Annie knows this. She is not an unbiased source. She gives off MAJOR Illuminati vibes.
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I agree! Just found Annie a month ago and her videos are all I’m watching now. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Love it 💯💯💯
I'm curious to check out that other account you're speaking about. What's the youtuber's name? "Illuminati" is quite vast 😂
perfect timing! almost at 1 million!!
God help me if I'm ever put in jail on circumstantial evidence. A jury's gut feeling or just not liking her is not enuf to make her guilty.
Not everyone is seen killing their husband or wife. Not everything is on Camera. Most cases are circumstantial. The over bearing evidence here is beyond anything. Totally guilty and you only need common sense to come to this conclusion
Annie! My mom & I watch your vids religiously and it’s so cool to hear you covering a local legend story. I hope you’ll also cover the case of the 4 sex workers found years ago in Atlantic City.
I came from an abusive childhood. My dad was awful to my mom. And verbally abusive to us kids. And then my first boyfriend was very abusive (I guess the saying is true, that girls find someone like their dad!! Even tho I swore that would never happen to me!! He was prince charming on the outside and a manipulative nasty human on the inside.) But, I just will never understand why when women are threatened by their significant other, that their famous words are always "I didn't really believe him/think he was serious/would really hurt me". If you're threatened by ANYONE PLEEEEEASE assume they mean it!!! It's better to err on the side of being too cautious than being dead or injured!!
Can I add to your asute comment if they have conned you once with money or faked anything else expect for it to happen again.
Be really careful who you choose to have children with.
Her other mistake: having a great explaination for every question.
That's exactly what I thought she had an answer to every thing,every question.
@@preciousnhlabatsi2513 What would you think if she didn't happen to have an answer to every question she was asked?! Not guilty?
Well, she couldn't answer how someone would've gotten her suitcases and the blanket... so does that mean she's innocent?
Being to detailed yes
She told Brad that she was in the video in her husband's car because she didn't want him to know that she was planning on getting back together with her husband, but she told the cops that she was on the tape because she was playing a prank. You're right she did have answers to questions, just not the right answers. I could put 5 as the answer to 2+2, it's just not correct.
She absolutely did it! Melanie is responsible, glad she is being punished.
Thank you Annie. I love hearing your insight on cases. You’re beautiful. ❤
Well presented and researched
She also went on a toll road and was caught driving on the toll road, right where his body ashes up.
I discovered 10 to life during the gabby petito case…oh how you’ve grown since then ! Well done annie, you’re still the same girl, unlike some others who have let their fame go to their heads….
👀👀 I’m curious to know who.
a compliment will do, no need to bash others
@@gigiarmany no one “bashed”…as I haven’t named anyone…!
@@gigiarmany That compliment was made for Annie, I believe. Not for "gigiarmani" (honestly, it's just a little disgraceful to have this type of name, of all the names/nicknames in the world that are given to you to choose from. 🤪 🤭 🫣
when he left, he could've taken the blanket, the lougage, the gun, and have been killed by someone else who used his things to wrape him. they didn't find the green couch or had evidence that they had one. the trash bag are not conclusive, also how did she cleaned the house so perfectly? but, on the other hand, the google search looks guilty, also the flesh on the car. if she moved the car, how did the killer knew where it was and used it, for what? because of the latter, i think she did it. people saying "how could she cheat being 37 month pregnant"... it's the same as not being pregnant. it doesn't make it worst.
Girl! I’m lovin’ that tan! Such a horrific case. Keep up the amazing work! I always look forward to your videos and give you a thumbs up before it even starts.
Thank you so much Annie for all your hard work 🙃 bless you and yours
Hi Annie 👋 thanks for all the videos ❤
Loving your longer videos!! ❤ Just don’t overdo it girl! Your family comes first ❤
Same! ❤ Luckily, Annie has an awesome team behind her, so she's able to bring us the top-quality uploads we love.
Would love to see you cover the case of Virginia Vertetis out of NJ. She shot her cop boyfriend in the back 6x and tried to claim self-defense. I spent a few years incarcerated with her. Wild case.
Ha! I dated her x husband who was completely obsessed with that psychopath.
You have been incarcerated with a couple of loonies it seems. Do u think they were truly guilty?
@maritzasanmartin7775 For the entire state of NJ, there's only one women's prison, so most of them are in the same place, lol. I can't speculate on Melanie's case, but after spending 3y with Virginia, I fully believe she's guilty af. She was the only one who thought otherwise.
@@milano13ableNo way! THAT must have been interesting! She was a teacher, just 15 minutes outside of the town in which we both lived, too!
@pz83ftw wow..thanks for your response
Your reporting is amazing, Annie!
Love how you deliver a story
Thanks, Annie 🥰
Morning Annie and friends
This is so crazy i just watched a lifetime movie about this case last night... crazy weird
Wat is that movie called? So i can watch it . Thanx for your efford if you do 😊
Love your vids ,all the hard work you put in to each one. So interesting and the detail and background info is superb.. Thank you and well done. Amazing,💖👌🇮🇪☘️💖
Really enjoy your true crime videos. Appreciate how you provide a lot of background detail on the victims and the in-depth coverage you give on the cases and trials like the Lori Vallow case and trial. Keep doing what you’re doing. I haven’t been disappointed in any of the materials you have shared to date.
I was home during this trial (surgery) and was fascinated by it. I didn't know if she was guilty or not.
Hi all love both of Annie's true crime channels ❤
She says: "I don't get to be an evil genius and an idiot at the same time.", As she darts her eyes. Yet, every case I watch, they ARE evil and they ARE idiots. GUILTY.
This is true
I zeroed in on her eye roll there too….
No such thing as a perfect crime. She is 100% guilty. The devil woman
As a female paramedic who has experiences with many types of bodies, I’m not convinced that this small woman could have done what they said she has!
She had help after the fact. Including cutting the body up. Probably on a property. That person was likely a male. He drove her car also. Someone helped move 2 cars. My guess is it’s the father.
This was one of the first true crime stories that got me into true crime. I swear I can remember Bill Kurtis on American Justice covering this way back then but I could be wrong. Thanks for a great video.
1st time hearing of this case & it's a hard one for me... but I think I'm with you on this, I don't think there's enough for conviction & I'm not sure if she did it or not... also I'm surprised this didn't get a lot more media at the time!
I find it hard to believe she physically did all this herself.
How the body was cut up making it light
Anyone evil with determination can do anything doesn’t matter the size or gender children commit Heynis crimes smaller then her!! 💯💯 she did it everything points to her & they why she did it!! 💯💯 very sad!!
Where there is a will there is a way. Look at Taylor Shabusiness ( or however you spell her name). Recently cut up her boyfriend and chopped him up downstairs at his house while his mom was home. And brought his body parts with her and left his head in a bucket. I think if someone is determined enough, they can do it.
Women are far more darker than men but commit fewer crimes so she is absolutely did it. Search for Taylor Shaybusines she also did the same
@@amandanicole0214 Taylor Shabusiness is a good example. Plus in this case ^ she'd clearly been planning it for ages, with those google searches and the prescription forging, she had steely determination.
38 weeks pregnant and starts an affair 😮 shu, that's cold!!
He was having affairs as well so it just seems normal for their relationship
It's gross
@@joannajamerson35gross is an understatement. I'm disgusted. Like they both cared about themselve not the kids. Definitely not a environment to raise two small kids.
@@violetk8025I thought Annie said those cheating claims were unproven and only made by the wife?
Melanie had the nerve to say they "always put the children first." So, is that what you were doing when you gave Doc a blowjob? I can't stand that woman.
I really enjoy how you break things down.
Whether she did it or not, there was never enough evidence to convict her, she should not have been convicted, I hope the jury feel guilty
This happened in my town. It’s so weird seeing it publicized. She’s 10000% guilty.
I'm just alitte bit south of Woodbridge. I'm in Monmouth County
The Prosecution 1000% got it right. She has provided no information on how someone else would have gotten blankets and suitcases from her house for the murder 😅 You can't tell me someone from Atlantic City just had easy access to his home to get all of that without running in to Melanie. Like Nancy Grace said, she should have just posted a Billboard that said "I killed my husband" lmao
How did they get it 100% right? Bill had blankets in his car
If he left the house with plans to stay gone he would have never grabbed suitcases... The blanket could be questionable... But we leave blankets in our vehicles especially if it's cold because if you breakdown you can stay warm until help comes. Black trash bags can come from anywhere... While I agree there is evidence that suggests she could have been a part, it's supposed to be convinced beyond a reasonable doubt. I can't say that I was. I could not put someone away for life if I didn't know for a fact they did it. Especially a mother with 2 young children. Because the questions of "what if" would eat at me. I feel like while not letting go that she was a possibility they should have looked at loan sharks and bookie's, You never know the things they will do if you don't start paying up like you are supposed to. How easy would it be to frame her. Use their suitcases he packed because he was leaving and a blanket he brought with him.
She may have done it but either way they definitely didn’t have enough to prosecute her in my opinion.
What about the prescription for the drug. Wasn't the drug found in his body?
@@IbelongtoJesus.I am not finished with this video but there is a podcast that deep dives into this case and actually talks to experts. It’s really well done. But if I remember correctly her husband had been caught stealing rx pads. I can’t remember all the details but it brought convincing question to this.
I agree
Ga ga ga guilty😆🥁😆
they definitely had enough to charge/prosecute her - did they do enough to prove beyond a reasonable doubt? i could make an argument both ways
Great case AE, wonderful presentation!! Yep, the medication is hard to trip over and the dead husband's tox screen came back positive; didn't get there by osmosis. Too many coincidences, too many explanations...something stinks!
I'm confused... he had "shot gun" wounds to his torso and head.... but the gun Melanie bought in a PA was a 38 special... how could they use that as evidence against her? The wounds don't match! Also the animal hairs.. sus
No problem be said shot gun. Not sure who said that and of Annie did, then she’s mistaken.
Best part of waking up to AE’s true crime cases! 🙌🏼
Really? Don't you have a family?
@@jeanettehinds4253 What does that have to do with anything and why are you rude AF?
@@hollydaugherty2620 . Oh my, did I touch a nerve? I'm asking because I can't believe that a grown woman wakes up with only Annie Elise on her mind. Don't be upset. If you like it girl, I love it.
Heck yeah she did it. And they proved it sufficiently.
Atlantic City debtors are the alternative? And they went to her house, took trash bags, blankets and other supplies from there just to implicate her? LOL
Not to mention the forged prescription from her medical office. I don’t see any ounce of reasonable doubt in this. 100% guilty
Also the her shoes with the fiber... she's guilty
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She didn’t ask how he died.
Love Annie but this one she seems a little biased due to the podcast gals opinions, she was claiming Bryan Khoberger right off the bat and there was less solid evidence than this case. Which I’m not saying he didn’t do it, I’m just saying it felt a little biased on this one. No biggie since she’s already sentenced imo.
Was in prison with this looney toon. Favorite notification!
What was your experience like with her?!
No way!? Kinda cool in a weird way 😅
Ah! U can’t just leave that comment and NOT follow it up! Well, u can, but plz don’t!! Share more info plz!
Do tell. Lol😂
Spill it. What are the details. Please 🙏🏻
At 4:29 there is a picture of Melanie with a black & white dog? Were these her suitcases that she had when she younger when she had a dog? She was living with her parents then before she met Bill