@@ScreenTested it's OK. I watch this in Europe (Norway) love your videos and Shads videos as well (exept his political/religious coloured ones, but no one's perfect 🤗)
So as a throwing weapon it is very good. But it is even better then the other ones because you can hold and sort of use it like a knife unlike the other ones. It's Odd that you found a good random weapon.
If you wanted to stay with the festivities you could have waited for "spring break" since it is a break for religious reasons. Specifically Christian reasons. Still I think any time is fine to put an awesome video like this one.
@@donpimpon7293 Yeah that's a big one! Look one's the one's big targeted by Vampires, normal everyday people that aren't use to using weapons, so a weapon this deadly against Vampires that you can throw with such precision so easily is REALLY GOOD! Crosses can be easily made as you demonstrated, so you could have like 4-8 of these! So you could bombard a target by throwing a ton of crosses at them really hard, really fast, & pretty accurately. Plus it's not like the Vampire can pick it up & throw it back!
Actual historical weapon, the Wurfkreuz, there's actual images of this thing in medieval pictures that you can find. Also it can be made out of two sticks of wood tied together after you cut a pair of notches in the wood to make them fit together better and sharpen the ends. This wooden version was the actual version seen in the first NES Castlevania instruction manuals that came with the games for both the US and Japanese version. The Wurfkreuz has been around for a long....LONG time, if it ain't broke don't fix it. BTW, the name is German and means...well.."Throwing Cross", pretty simple lol.
To the best of my recollection the wooden version was popular (in a smaller form) in germanic areas for killing rats in town or hunting small game like rabbits.
As a performer in a juggling and knife throwing show said about a trick where one of the other performers was supposed to catch the knife he threw, "This is 1.5 pounds of steel hitting him at 35 miles per hour. Even if he catches the knife perfectly it is still going to hurt." So, as a throwing weapon even if all you did was bounce it off your target you have delayed the target reaching you giving you time to draw your main weapon. So, comfort is a subjective matter, the design is simple and gets the job done, it doesn't take much training to learn to use it, and as a throwing weapon its primary purpose is to impair the target which it appears to do quite readily. The Throwing Cross appears to be better than some other weapons that got lower scores but many of those weapons were meant to be more potentially lethal and didn't live up to that function.
@@JanWaltVesely Warhammer chaos god of Violence is Khorne, he sits on a throne of skulls which grows with every creature killed. His followers' battle cry is "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!" and the quip is khorne rhymes with corn hence the khorne flakes part.
make a heavier, sharper, even deadlier version of this, and reach out to a professional baseball or cricket pitcher to see just how insane it could be with professional throwing power behind it :D Love what you do and hope you keep having fun doing it.
Tyranth is overthinking his scoring system now... I feel you brother, it's a bit like writing an RPG System and one of your players breaking it with a cleverly built character... "Damn, i need to fix that..."
Discovered them recently, and i honsetly think that shad's videos are just too long and repeat the same point several times, tyrnth makes shorter videos that go to the point
@@GoldBenderr Shad was fun when they did some of their more adventurous stuff. If you just recently discovered them, watch the Shad videos with Nate in them. When all 3 of them were together it was great.
@@GoldBenderr Nah, I prefer longform content that I can throw onto a playlist and listen to for an hour or more. I'm not brainrotted to need something switching over every 30 seconds.
Shad does really well in long discussion focused content. Unfortunately, largely due to his health, I don't think he has the energy for the more active content as much anymore. It's been really nice to see his functional fantasy series come back as I think it really plays to his strengths.
It’s a good design: got pointy bits in all directions, and you don’t need edges unless you want to cut, avoids the awkwardness of holding a shuriken… I'd just like to see one that’s a little bigger and heavier for that added oomph on impact and emergency wieldability as a pig-sticker.
It is definitely capable in close combat. There are several records of throwing crosses from around the 16th century here in Germany. Was banned in several cities. The university students seemed to like it. There are even records of an expelled student using it to kill the principal...
If a cruciform sword that is? I was always more one for hacky choppy swords like a kopis, Hanger or langsaex. Technically not a sword though most mistake it as one is (Fausart) which is excellent at the chop & thrust as it performs like a short lance. Cruciform swords even in the middle ages of Europe were not as common as other types of sword though knightly & nobility swords tend to survive as these blades had status/aura around them while seen more as relics rather then old tools/weapons as many of the commoners weapnons doubled for tool usage. I like a cruciform swords but I very particular preferences as my arming sword has only 1 edge fully shapened with a false edge as I like a thick blunt pine to grab onto. The longer I have used stright cruciform guards I just want at least a U or V shape though knuckle bow/tie is the best on the cheap. Disc guards look like but they are bad for intersecting anything though they do stop the hand from riding up which is something!
Replace one of the side bars with an axe blade, and you have a hurlbat, and I always had a sneaking suspicion those were amazing weapons. They're little war hatchets until you throw one, then they behave like you've just seen. You can spin it around in your hand and use the other side like a little war pick too. Often users would put a stack of 5 or 6 of them in a sheath, so they could have spares to keep fighting until they were able to retrieve the ones they threw.
With a melee weapon in your main hand i bet it'd be great as a parrying dagger because of those wide cross arms. That way you'd get use out of it even when you're not throwing it.
"I am unhappy with this result." Same reaction that I had to stumbling across AI generated music that I like. "I like this, and I am offended that I like this."
Ya, I get like that with music too. I find a style I did not like 10 years ago then like it now and go "Huh? what ya know? its not as bad as I thought."
Add a plug weld to the middle of the cross section for additional strength. Do some engraving for aesthetics. A small hole near the top and a link designed to separate from the cross as needed. This could be a perfectly viable and yet decorative secondary weapon for a holy warrior.
@4:40 - you didn't allow for lost distance. Tony is half a meter closer, so you have to adjust your release, or take a step back - the spin number of rotations per throw sets what part is hitting. A knife at that distance sould be 1 or 1.5 depending which end you're holding.
Love the Castlevania weapons. Here are some suggestions. 1) Something easy that should be comfortable to use: Balsa Yonsa's short spear from 精霊の守り人 (Seirei no Moribito aka Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit). There's an episode where she has to repair it but I don't remember which one. I think episode 8. 2) Nakajima Youko's regal sword from 十二国記 (Juuni Kokki aka The Twelve Kingdoms). Simple yet elegant Chinese straight sword. 3) Entoma Vasilissa Zeta's insect blade from Overlord (Season 2 Episode 11). This one should be a fun challenge. I think something like a Katar with the appropriate design could work.
I love your channel man both of them...I used to make "props' but ones that were functional as well just like you I still have one of my makes, after being homeless for about 8 months and loosing my storage unit I had to leave a bunch but I may be getting back into it bc of you 🙏 inspiration to the fullest
Armor and supernatural resistance to the material would affect the effectiveness, but it's a pretty solid utility weapon. In melee range you have a decent stabbing implement akin to a dagger and for throwing you have a decent throwing knife-shuriken-miniature chakram thing. On the supernatural side of things, it would likely be silver coated and consecrated for effectiveness against the forces of evil that any hunter, exorcist, or slayer would face.
Not only is it a good throwing weapon and cross against vampires but I can see it being a useful tool. Right away I can see it being useful as a digging tool. It seems very simple to make even with minimal blacksmithing experience. Even if you don’t make it yourself keeping the points sharp is super simple. You just need a good file. Since you are mostly grabbing and throwing it from the long end I can see sharpening the other side to be more of a cutting blade instead of just a sharpened point.
As tools, they are right after something like a knife, a hammer or an small axe. It's also cheap, simple, thin and light enough to carry a set, and by having a set you can easily push them on ground or some surfaces for some nasty traps. Someone suggested adding a hole in the center, where you can pass from ropes to nylon lines, and now you can use it for a lot of things, probably even Levi Wand tricks.
I made a bunch of things like this as a teenager. I think the best ones were about the same size as this but made out of rebar. The extra weight meant it wasn't just sticking in my pallet target, it was splitting the boards
This is why I love weapons. They can look cool for display or can have really simple designs but be some of the most dangerous and efficient of their category.
A cross shaped Hurlbat. Quite effective.~ I'm a fan of any throwing weapon that doesn't require you to carefully measure distance in order to hit with the pointy bit. A pointy bit in every direction is the answer XD
Next week on Screen tested a 39 on an articulated weapon! LOL! Joking! Nice video. and ya its a beast of a weapon. I might shave down a bit of the hand hold to put a wrap on it, but not much else. Its pretty much what it needs to be.
Two things: 1. You might consider painting throwing weapons bright orange, so we can see them in the air more easily. 2. You scored it as a throwing weapon and it is great for that. If you scored it as a melee weapon, the score would have been a lot lower. Maybe a 5 effectiveness, so a total of 33.
@@marcogenovesi8570 Indeed. Otherwise, other weapons would need to be judged on how well they function as throwing weapons. I doubt the bec would do very well in that department.
For a future episode, is there a chance that we can see Sly Cooper's cane? If I recall correctly, it had enough handle to be both one and two-handed, and I wonder how effective a blunt weapon like that would be.
Remind me a bit of a weapon I'd ran across a while ago in a urban fantasy book. The main character fought demons, and lucky for her she was indestructible at night. Her main weapons was a pair of blades with no handle. There were just a stripper steel sharpened and pointed on both ends. I think the idea was that it could be thrown and because she was indestructible no one else could use it without hurting themselves.
Making the tips more concave might help with the piercing Tony part. Downside of course is more fragile tip. I wonder if you tried again with something more akin to the blades of an estoc or misericorde would be better at piercing, or if the small edges of the points are whats letting it do as good as it is
Love to see a comparison between this very thin sheet one and one made of say 1cm maybe even up to 2cm thick squareish cross section bar stock especially on tougher targets.. Add in some cosmetic twisting and make the top of the short side of the cross just that touch larger so you can use it as a handle and have the longer 'dagger' blade - should then be a good offhand parrying weapon that probably also throws pretty well. Though this version I could see still rating higher -as you can so easily have 5 thinner throwing crosses that work pretty well vs just the one 'better' one..
The version from the early games had all four arms symmetrical in length, in part because they were easier to animate that way. It's like a Cleric/Paladin version of a shuriken!
Even if it doesnt stick in through heavy duty leather, if you're whipping it at a creature that burns on contact with it and doesnt wear armour it seems like a damn fine weapon. The Lords of Shadow vampire killer whip cross would be an interesting weapon to test, I always thought the thing looked a little ridiculous with that massive grip but maybe it helps when you're swinging around what's essentially a giant flail
You validate so many fantasy weapons my NPC's get to flex on the players with; cool weapon, probably gonna link back to this when the "how practical is it REALLY discussion ensues.
So way back when we were young and dumb, my cousin would buy every crappy ninja weapon and dollar store survival knife he came across. Out of all the throwing stars and daggers and other tacti-cool dreck, the throwing cross was the only one that would reliably work. The axes were better, but so much harder to use. His cross had a second set of wings half way down, but you still had plenty of handle to hold onto, and it had enough heft to really hit hard.
Recommendation for further videos with small dark throwing objects, paint them bright white or some kind of neon color so that they can be seen better on video.
When we where kids we had big scissors with very loose rivets lying around at an old farmhouse. No matter how you threw them they always stuck right into the barns side and fenceposts, i feel like the one longer spike does the exact same thing
Now imagine forging it out of holly steel into one coherent piece, sharpening it with a holly stone, wrapping the handle with a holly string in a holly ceremony... 40/40 😁✝
Pretty damn cool and certainly effective. Only thing I would suggest is make it one piece construction from a rectangular piece of steel, wasteful yes with the amount of material cut off... But!! No chance of a weld failing then.
You know, something I haven't thought of before is if having more than two "arms" (so not a throwing knife) on a thin throwing weapon like this might act to stabilise it in flight. I would think that, with two "arms", there's room for more rolling, pretty much taking the edge off line. The more I think about it, the more that seems to likely be true. Likewise, a throwing axe will likely be more stable than a throwing knife as it has that wider head. I don't know if it's enough to matter over the short ranges that such weapons are thrown at, but it's kind of interesting.
Hi Tyranth. If I'm not wrong this weapon design existed in medieval period. Maybe that's the reason it felt so good. Look for Wurfkreuz. It's a litle bit different, but same idea. A trowing cross that can be used to stab in melee.
Throwing weapons need an extra category for armor. cloth seems to stop enough of them, could make some hidden gems stick out. Blade's glaives seemed to lever themselves in for a small penetration, and like this weapon, a little poke is all thats intended by the user.
I have a throwing weapon similar to that that I modify just slightly. One thing you don't seem to understand is how you gonna carry it. I'm only 8 minutes in your videos. So I might be wrong, however, if you want the grip to even be better, you can even just use an electric tape grip. Best case scenario to put this in and move situation. Would be like a backpack hooking it up to a side because any other way you're gonna get poke
Love this, though one thing I do think is worth considering is the practical aspect of carrying this around. How easy is it to safely carry, and how *many* of them can you reasonable carry without it being bothersome?
Historically, they didn't all have to be sharp or even metal. Ratcatchers in some areas carried blunt wood ones to stun rats or small game. Some could be not much more than fist sized but more solidly built for similar mass. I could see maybe one large one worn on a thong as a symbol, and a few more smaller ones on your belt or monastic rope with a simple quick release. You could probably get seven easily this way. Enough to get you dinner, or away from some bandit harassing you.
For effectiveness I would maybe put it a little lower, because it never got into Tony. But for the rest another really good video. Musical greetings from Belgium, Gunther (singer and lyrics writer of Gabriel Scar)
As someone who has played a lot of Castlevania games. I agree. The cross is indeed a top tier weapon. Holy water and bible is also pretty goddamn good, but making real life counterpart of those would basically just be a napalm and a yeah you can't recreate the spinning bible shield thingy well in real life, unless you just want to throw a heavy book at Tony.
Id love to see a video getting shads reaction to it, i don't remember if he was against throwing weapons or not. But wow that's probably better then a throwing axe
You should make a spring launcher so you can pull a rope and launch a water bottle into the air, if you plan on making more throwing weapons. Query: The long side of the cross increases the moment arm as you throw, so does that mean more spin, or is that leverage also going into its travel speed? And if it goes more into spin than into speed, does that help or hinder?
This thing looks so fun to throw! I wonder if there’s any chance a company would actually start making these cuz I would definitely consider buying a few.
Depending on which vampire lore you go by, a cross will cause harm to a vampire simply by touching them. IF that were the case, this weapon doesn't even need to stick to be effective for it's intended purpose.
So it seems I released this at the wrong time and missed everyone’s comments until now… well
@@ScreenTested it's OK. I watch this in Europe (Norway) love your videos and Shads videos as well (exept his political/religious coloured ones, but no one's perfect 🤗)
So as a throwing weapon it is very good. But it is even better then the other ones because you can hold and sort of use it like a knife unlike the other ones. It's Odd that you found a good random weapon.
If you wanted to stay with the festivities you could have waited for "spring break" since it is a break for religious reasons. Specifically Christian reasons. Still I think any time is fine to put an awesome video like this one.
Well like you just said... "Even on the miss, it still hits" haha
@@donpimpon7293 Yeah that's a big one! Look one's the one's big targeted by Vampires, normal everyday people that aren't use to using weapons, so a weapon this deadly against Vampires that you can throw with such precision so easily is REALLY GOOD! Crosses can be easily made as you demonstrated, so you could have like 4-8 of these! So you could bombard a target by throwing a ton of crosses at them really hard, really fast, & pretty accurately. Plus it's not like the Vampire can pick it up & throw it back!
It's a shuriken for when you have the powers of both God and Anime on your side.
So…. ranged weapon for Luce the pilgrim, the church’s anime mascot and Jesus’s adorable raincoat clad little girl
It really is just a better Shuriken
Ninja Crusader
Actual historical weapon, the Wurfkreuz, there's actual images of this thing in medieval pictures that you can find. Also it can be made out of two sticks of wood tied together after you cut a pair of notches in the wood to make them fit together better and sharpen the ends. This wooden version was the actual version seen in the first NES Castlevania instruction manuals that came with the games for both the US and Japanese version. The Wurfkreuz has been around for a long....LONG time, if it ain't broke don't fix it. BTW, the name is German and means...well.."Throwing Cross", pretty simple lol.
I was just about to comment that. Seemed to be a rather common weapon back then. Not surprising. I mean, easy to use, cheap to make, and effective.
To the best of my recollection the wooden version was popular (in a smaller form) in germanic areas for killing rats in town or hunting small game like rabbits.
Blast me, there's an old drawing of it in some duel. Awesome!.
You could say that the final score made you...cross.
You bastard. This was amazing!
_Ba dum tss!!!!_ 🥁
Take my like and leave!
@@Believer1980 A sheep, a drum, and a cobra go over a cliff.
Get out 😂
I learned a new technical term today - "the sticking in rate."
For the most intelligent among us
This seems like an extremely versatile term, capable of being applied to a wide variety of situations and at least one rule.
The SIR is very important but oft forgotten metric.
Shurikan: A minor inconvenience
Giant Shurikan from God: : " NOT THE GEOMETRY"
As a performer in a juggling and knife throwing show said about a trick where one of the other performers was supposed to catch the knife he threw, "This is 1.5 pounds of steel hitting him at 35 miles per hour. Even if he catches the knife perfectly it is still going to hurt." So, as a throwing weapon even if all you did was bounce it off your target you have delayed the target reaching you giving you time to draw your main weapon. So, comfort is a subjective matter, the design is simple and gets the job done, it doesn't take much training to learn to use it, and as a throwing weapon its primary purpose is to impair the target which it appears to do quite readily. The Throwing Cross appears to be better than some other weapons that got lower scores but many of those weapons were meant to be more potentially lethal and didn't live up to that function.
Blood for blood god
Skulls for skull throne
Milk for khorne flakes
And comment for the algorithm god's.
WTH are khorn flakes?
@@JanWaltVesely Warhammer chaos god of Violence is Khorne, he sits on a throne of skulls which grows with every creature killed. His followers' battle cry is
"BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!"
and the quip is khorne rhymes with corn hence the khorne flakes part.
@@JanWaltVeselyKhorne flakes are (corn) flakes of Khorne, Blood God from Warhammer 40k. 1st part is also battlecry of his followers
@ Cheers for explanation 🙂
Watching the difference between the tree and Tony's armor really makes you have to respect the value of even moderate armor.
make a heavier, sharper, even deadlier version of this, and reach out to a professional baseball or cricket pitcher to see just how insane it could be with professional throwing power behind it :D Love what you do and hope you keep having fun doing it.
that is a fun concept... local sportsguys should suffice though, at first.
I think an ax thrower would have better luck than a baseball or cricket player would.
Possibly even a darts player.
Reminds me of a certain giant-cross-wielding, chain smoking, anime priest for some reason.
Tyranth is overthinking his scoring system now...
I feel you brother, it's a bit like writing an RPG System and one of your players breaking it with a cleverly built character... "Damn, i need to fix that..."
I think I like this channel better than Shads now. Is that ok to admit?
Discovered them recently, and i honsetly think that shad's videos are just too long and repeat the same point several times, tyrnth makes shorter videos that go to the point
@@GoldBenderr Shad was fun when they did some of their more adventurous stuff. If you just recently discovered them, watch the Shad videos with Nate in them. When all 3 of them were together it was great.
@@GoldBenderr Nah, I prefer longform content that I can throw onto a playlist and listen to for an hour or more. I'm not brainrotted to need something switching over every 30 seconds.
@@shawnwolf5961 Thing is Shad is just repeating his point so even if it's longer you're not getting anything out of it.
Shad does really well in long discussion focused content. Unfortunately, largely due to his health, I don't think he has the energy for the more active content as much anymore. It's been really nice to see his functional fantasy series come back as I think it really plays to his strengths.
It’s a good design: got pointy bits in all directions, and you don’t need edges unless you want to cut, avoids the awkwardness of holding a shuriken… I'd just like to see one that’s a little bigger and heavier for that added oomph on impact and emergency wieldability as a pig-sticker.
It is definitely capable in close combat. There are several records of throwing crosses from around the 16th century here in Germany. Was banned in several cities. The university students seemed to like it. There are even records of an expelled student using it to kill the principal...
Like a large shuriken or Chakram shaped like a crucifix... Cool!
My inner Belmont is satisfied
Nice throws even when it's pretty windy. You can see the branches swaying. But he kept hitting his mark must be good at darts.
Using the Cross as a melee weapon is basically just swinging a sword handle minus the blade part
If a cruciform sword that is?
I was always more one for hacky choppy swords like a kopis, Hanger or langsaex.
Technically not a sword though most mistake it as one is (Fausart) which is excellent at the chop & thrust as it performs like a short lance.
Cruciform swords even in the middle ages of Europe were not as common as other types of sword though knightly & nobility swords tend to survive as these blades had status/aura around them while seen more as relics rather then old tools/weapons as many of the commoners weapnons doubled for tool usage.
I like a cruciform swords but I very particular preferences as my arming sword has only 1 edge fully shapened with a false edge as I like a thick blunt pine to grab onto.
The longer I have used stright cruciform guards I just want at least a U or V shape though knuckle bow/tie is the best on the cheap.
Disc guards look like but they are bad for intersecting anything though they do stop the hand from riding up which is something!
So essentially Aragorn in the books using a broken Narsil.
It's a holy weapon. That makes holes.
so does that mean "Unholy" weapons close up holes? LOL!
Replace one of the side bars with an axe blade, and you have a hurlbat, and I always had a sneaking suspicion those were amazing weapons. They're little war hatchets until you throw one, then they behave like you've just seen. You can spin it around in your hand and use the other side like a little war pick too. Often users would put a stack of 5 or 6 of them in a sheath, so they could have spares to keep fighting until they were able to retrieve the ones they threw.
If you increase the thickness of the middle part it will hit harder and fly much smoother. Cheers from a Belmont.
With a melee weapon in your main hand i bet it'd be great as a parrying dagger because of those wide cross arms. That way you'd get use out of it even when you're not throwing it.
Your welding is getting better! And good video
7:00 was serving WWDITS energy, for sure. :D Another great vid!
Ok, this episode, I actually like. You was genuinely funny. I dont like throwing weapons that much but this one was pretty good.
The "even on a miss it's a hit" applies the most to the biggest explosives lol
"I am unhappy with this result."
Same reaction that I had to stumbling across AI generated music that I like. "I like this, and I am offended that I like this."
Ya, I get like that with music too. I find a style I did not like 10 years ago then like it now and go "Huh? what ya know? its not as bad as I thought."
"Even on a miss, it still hits." - Tyranth, 2025
The instrumant for The Atonement for all sins AND an actually good throwing weapon? Sounds like a good deal to me!
2:43 don’t say that like it’s a bad thing, Tyranth. That’s the reason I subscribed
Add a plug weld to the middle of the cross section for additional strength. Do some engraving for aesthetics. A small hole near the top and a link designed to separate from the cross as needed. This could be a perfectly viable and yet decorative secondary weapon for a holy warrior.
@4:40 - you didn't allow for lost distance. Tony is half a meter closer, so you have to adjust your release, or take a step back - the spin number of rotations per throw sets what part is hitting. A knife at that distance sould be 1 or 1.5 depending which end you're holding.
Love the Castlevania weapons.
Here are some suggestions.
1) Something easy that should be comfortable to use: Balsa Yonsa's short spear from 精霊の守り人 (Seirei no Moribito aka Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit).
There's an episode where she has to repair it but I don't remember which one. I think episode 8.
2) Nakajima Youko's regal sword from 十二国記 (Juuni Kokki aka The Twelve Kingdoms).
Simple yet elegant Chinese straight sword.
3) Entoma Vasilissa Zeta's insect blade from Overlord
(Season 2 Episode 11).
This one should be a fun challenge. I think something like a Katar with the appropriate design could work.
1:15 I have the most compelling urge to press that button while the disk is rotating...
I love your channel man both of them...I used to make "props' but ones that were functional as well just like you I still have one of my makes, after being homeless for about 8 months and loosing my storage unit I had to leave a bunch but I may be getting back into it bc of you 🙏 inspiration to the fullest
Armor and supernatural resistance to the material would affect the effectiveness, but it's a pretty solid utility weapon. In melee range you have a decent stabbing implement akin to a dagger and for throwing you have a decent throwing knife-shuriken-miniature chakram thing. On the supernatural side of things, it would likely be silver coated and consecrated for effectiveness against the forces of evil that any hunter, exorcist, or slayer would face.
Beautiful work Tyranth
Not only is it a good throwing weapon and cross against vampires but I can see it being a useful tool.
Right away I can see it being useful as a digging tool.
It seems very simple to make even with minimal blacksmithing experience.
Even if you don’t make it yourself keeping the points sharp is super simple. You just need a good file.
Since you are mostly grabbing and throwing it from the long end I can see sharpening the other side to be more of a cutting blade instead of just a sharpened point.
As tools, they are right after something like a knife, a hammer or an small axe. It's also cheap, simple, thin and light enough to carry a set, and by having a set you can easily push them on ground or some surfaces for some nasty traps. Someone suggested adding a hole in the center, where you can pass from ropes to nylon lines, and now you can use it for a lot of things, probably even Levi Wand tricks.
How did I not know you had your own channel mate... Subbed.
Nice choice of background music for the build.
I made a bunch of things like this as a teenager. I think the best ones were about the same size as this but made out of rebar. The extra weight meant it wasn't just sticking in my pallet target, it was splitting the boards
This is brilliant! How come I have not seen a throwing cross until now? Well, guess I'll have to check out Castlevania.
This is why I love weapons. They can look cool for display or can have really simple designs but be some of the most dangerous and efficient of their category.
Always impressed with your skill in both building and practicing with the not weapon weapons.
A cross shaped Hurlbat. Quite effective.~ I'm a fan of any throwing weapon that doesn't require you to carefully measure distance in order to hit with the pointy bit. A pointy bit in every direction is the answer XD
Like a grenade
This is really satisfying.
Watching 4:01 frame by frame and seeing the longest blade be the one to spear straight through was so satisfying.
Next week on Screen tested a 39 on an articulated weapon! LOL! Joking! Nice video. and ya its a beast of a weapon. I might shave down a bit of the hand hold to put a wrap on it, but not much else. Its pretty much what it needs to be.
Two things:
1. You might consider painting throwing weapons bright orange, so we can see them in the air more easily.
2. You scored it as a throwing weapon and it is great for that. If you scored it as a melee weapon, the score would have been a lot lower. Maybe a 5 effectiveness, so a total of 33.
I mean it's a throwing weapon so it's fair to score it as what it is.
@@marcogenovesi8570 Indeed. Otherwise, other weapons would need to be judged on how well they function as throwing weapons.
I doubt the bec would do very well in that department.
For a future episode, is there a chance that we can see Sly Cooper's cane? If I recall correctly, it had enough handle to be both one and two-handed, and I wonder how effective a blunt weapon like that would be.
It’s the love child of a throwing dagger and a shuriken.
With throwing daggers you need to adjust for range, with that you don’t.
Funny enough, this would still make a serviceable dagger, especially if you wear gloves
Lmfao the moment he threw that bottle in the air and missed
Remind me a bit of a weapon I'd ran across a while ago in a urban fantasy book. The main character fought demons, and lucky for her she was indestructible at night. Her main weapons was a pair of blades with no handle. There were just a stripper steel sharpened and pointed on both ends. I think the idea was that it could be thrown and because she was indestructible no one else could use it without hurting themselves.
That tree is like "Ouch! Hey dude, that's my body."
Making the tips more concave might help with the piercing Tony part. Downside of course is more fragile tip.
I wonder if you tried again with something more akin to the blades of an estoc or misericorde would be better at piercing, or if the small edges of the points are whats letting it do as good as it is
Love to see a comparison between this very thin sheet one and one made of say 1cm maybe even up to 2cm thick squareish cross section bar stock especially on tougher targets.. Add in some cosmetic twisting and make the top of the short side of the cross just that touch larger so you can use it as a handle and have the longer 'dagger' blade - should then be a good offhand parrying weapon that probably also throws pretty well.
Though this version I could see still rating higher -as you can so easily have 5 thinner throwing crosses that work pretty well vs just the one 'better' one..
This feels like a holy ninja star that's easier to grip halfway-safely lol
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that tree puts up with a lot, the true mvp.
The version from the early games had all four arms symmetrical in length, in part because they were easier to animate that way. It's like a Cleric/Paladin version of a shuriken!
It is the K.I.S.S that helps it also. It also looks like you could keep a lot on you in a pouch or holder as they look flat.
Even if it doesnt stick in through heavy duty leather, if you're whipping it at a creature that burns on contact with it and doesnt wear armour it seems like a damn fine weapon.
The Lords of Shadow vampire killer whip cross would be an interesting weapon to test, I always thought the thing looked a little ridiculous with that massive grip but maybe it helps when you're swinging around what's essentially a giant flail
It's basically a lethal shuriken. Against an unarmed opponent, this thing is deadly. At the very least, you will injure them.
They are historical you see them in "Freydal". They used those in the Renaissance. I have one, too, it's great!
You validate so many fantasy weapons my NPC's get to flex on the players with; cool weapon, probably gonna link back to this when the "how practical is it REALLY discussion ensues.
Considering that it's just a hurlbat, that score is not surprising but I'm curious how good it is compared to an actual hurlbat.
Make two of them and attach them with a 18 inch chain...cross nunchucks. Gift it to Shad
Lmao Shad would lose his shit hahaha
So way back when we were young and dumb, my cousin would buy every crappy ninja weapon and dollar store survival knife he came across. Out of all the throwing stars and daggers and other tacti-cool dreck, the throwing cross was the only one that would reliably work. The axes were better, but so much harder to use. His cross had a second set of wings half way down, but you still had plenty of handle to hold onto, and it had enough heft to really hit hard.
Get a high-speed cam Ty. For the throwing weapons itd be perfect
Aeordynamic blessed vampire kryptonite that embeds itself in the target.
Recommendation for further videos with small dark throwing objects, paint them bright white or some kind of neon color so that they can be seen better on video.
When we where kids we had big scissors with very loose rivets lying around at an old farmhouse. No matter how you threw them they always stuck right into the barns side and fenceposts, i feel like the one longer spike does the exact same thing
Now imagine forging it out of holly steel into one coherent piece, sharpening it with a holly stone, wrapping the handle with a holly string in a holly ceremony... 40/40 😁✝
Anointed in holy oil, it not only kills your enemies but it saves them as well. lol
Coat a tempered steel piece is silver then immerse it in a strong disinfectant.
Isn't holly a wood, not a stone?
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@@JanoTuotanto Ilex. Beech is different.
he just made a throwing dagger with a low skill ceiling. VERY DOPE
Awesome job dude.
I really like the design of this throwing cross, its simpler but much more efficient as a throwing weapon.
Pretty damn cool and certainly effective.
Only thing I would suggest is make it one piece construction from a rectangular piece of steel, wasteful yes with the amount of material cut off...
But!! No chance of a weld failing then.
You know, something I haven't thought of before is if having more than two "arms" (so not a throwing knife) on a thin throwing weapon like this might act to stabilise it in flight. I would think that, with two "arms", there's room for more rolling, pretty much taking the edge off line. The more I think about it, the more that seems to likely be true. Likewise, a throwing axe will likely be more stable than a throwing knife as it has that wider head. I don't know if it's enough to matter over the short ranges that such weapons are thrown at, but it's kind of interesting.
Hi Tyranth. If I'm not wrong this weapon design existed in medieval period. Maybe that's the reason it felt so good. Look for Wurfkreuz. It's a litle bit different, but same idea. A trowing cross that can be used to stab in melee.
Throwing weapons need an extra category for armor. cloth seems to stop enough of them, could make some hidden gems stick out. Blade's glaives seemed to lever themselves in for a small penetration, and like this weapon, a little poke is all thats intended by the user.
When watching that car guy Doug do scores it looks like he figures out the end score first and then makes up the other numbers to fit that end score.
I have a throwing weapon similar to that that I modify just slightly. One thing you don't seem to understand is how you gonna carry it. I'm only 8 minutes in your videos. So I might be wrong, however, if you want the grip to even be better, you can even just use an electric tape grip. Best case scenario to put this in and move situation.
Would be like a backpack hooking it up to a side because any other way you're gonna get poke
Love this, though one thing I do think is worth considering is the practical aspect of carrying this around. How easy is it to safely carry, and how *many* of them can you reasonable carry without it being bothersome?
Historically, they didn't all have to be sharp or even metal. Ratcatchers in some areas carried blunt wood ones to stun rats or small game. Some could be not much more than fist sized but more solidly built for similar mass. I could see maybe one large one worn on a thong as a symbol, and a few more smaller ones on your belt or monastic rope with a simple quick release. You could probably get seven easily this way. Enough to get you dinner, or away from some bandit harassing you.
Well now I want one
For the darker weapons, maybe paint bright orange for better visibility in the shadows?
Vampire Hunter D 2 had 4 vampire hunters. One had a ton of cross shaped throwing daggers. You should look it up.
There's something about the symbol of Christ being almost perfect weapon.
For effectiveness I would maybe put it a little lower, because it never got into Tony. But for the rest another really good video. Musical greetings from Belgium, Gunther (singer and lyrics writer of Gabriel Scar)
It's like a tomahawk had a child with a shuriken... 🤣
When you throw it the arm that you have in your had is sharpened so you have to watch out as it leaves your hand.
You should make a video comparing the throwing cross against ninja stars, throwing daggers, etc.
As someone who has played a lot of Castlevania games. I agree. The cross is indeed a top tier weapon. Holy water and bible is also pretty goddamn good, but making real life counterpart of those would basically just be a napalm and a yeah you can't recreate the spinning bible shield thingy well in real life, unless you just want to throw a heavy book at Tony.
Id love to see a video getting shads reaction to it, i don't remember if he was against throwing weapons or not. But wow that's probably better then a throwing axe
You should make a spring launcher so you can pull a rope and launch a water bottle into the air, if you plan on making more throwing weapons.
Query: The long side of the cross increases the moment arm as you throw, so does that mean more spin, or is that leverage also going into its travel speed? And if it goes more into spin than into speed, does that help or hinder?
This thing looks so fun to throw! I wonder if there’s any chance a company would actually start making these cuz I would definitely consider buying a few.
Depending on which vampire lore you go by, a cross will cause harm to a vampire simply by touching them. IF that were the case, this weapon doesn't even need to stick to be effective for it's intended purpose.
If it sticks, then part of the weapon is touching the *inside* of the vampire.
@@randlebrowne2048 True. That would would cause max level damage in this case.
Liked this episode. I don't know if you ever thought about this but the gunblade from final fantasy 8 as a test.
Well I have to say that I love how frustrated you are about how good it is. It does it's own job nearly perfectly and a few more excellently.
@0:42 - Um... That's not a throwing cross, that's his whip.
9:12 you are correct.
That is not a whip