@@waynerichardson1051 Not enough, but yes it has worked up many, but I think most will fall back in line if it happens again, I was going to do a video about what covid has taught us, but a bit worried about getting kicked off UA-cam, half my videos are already flagged.🤣
@@aussie.prepper Do the video, stay authentic and genuine to yourself mate!! COVID changed everything and everyone, for ever!! It was a snap shot of what's probably coming our way in the near future!! On the base layer though, its the money that is broken!! It's been broken for years and years!! Inflation is Govt theft of our purchasing power!! Basically stealing off us!! We have to work harder and longer each year just to stay in the same place!! It's insane!! Fix the money fix the world!! COVID was a money grab, and a see how far they can push sheeple around!! And man sheeple can be pushed right up to the slaughter house doors in my opinion!! Farking hell!! The new world order is marching through, they're attacking us via a fear of loss mentality and a no hope approach! Look at how woke everyone is these days, again I say.... farking hell, what's happening here? Do this, Buy land away from big cities, have enough food and water for at least 6 weeks, (apparently toilet paper too) grow your own fruit and vegetables, have a freezer full of meat, a petrol generator and gas bottles full of lpg for the BBQ. Defend yourself and your family. Buy Gold, silver and Bitcoin!! Mostly Bitcoin!!
@@aussie.prepperwhat about the Injured One's that are thrown in the Bin, and the Boot comes down Harder and Harder with Every Step in a Fraudulent System. The Australian Government System, Where has the, Government OF Australia System Gone?
The cold hard fact is every highway patrol officer is expected to write 100 tickets a month. Just because the politicians and senior police don't want to refer to them as "quotas", is political semantics. "According to the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary, a quota is a limited number or amount of people or things that is officially allowed. It can also mean an amount that someone needs or expects to have or achieve. According to the Oxford Learner's Dictionaries, a KPI, or key performance indicator, is a measure used to evaluate how well an organization, employee, or other entity is meeting its objectives." Semantics.
@@Rainmain667... "making up numbers" ... you mean THE number I have heard numerous times by senior police, highway patrol sergeants & officers over decades. KPI=Quota Trying to argue different is semantics.
@@Rainmain667 Sure. The Highway Patrol Unit used to be attached to a patrol/district/command, along with GD's, detectives, parking patrol. admin & GSO's.Where they all serviced the local community. That started to change c.1996. The HWP Command has been an independent entity since about 2006. Meaning they 'might' be based at a local station, however they can be/are tasked anywhere in the state. Even though they are still considered as operational police, and technically 1st responders, their core duties since then are traffic laws/regs enforcement. That's it. As such, they are regarded as a specialist unit. Meaning, all they are meant to do is drive around looking for tickets to write. Did you read the definitions of quota and KPI's? To add to that, a considerable amount of hours are provided in the form of RMS Enhanced Funding. The State Government Department responsible for transport, registrations, licensing etc... funds the HWP Command to do additional traffic enforcement duties. So how likely or probable is it, do you think, that the HWP Command as a 'specialist unit', whose core function is to enforce traffic law, isn't going to have as it's main KPI, the issuing of a buttload of revenue raising infringement notices. From those numerous conversations, I am reliably informed that the expectation on a normal roster is ten (10) tickets per shift. As they work mostly 12 hour shifts (not counting overtime), it averages out to about ten shifts per month. Also not counting overtime, or RMS funded shifts. 10 x 10 = 100 per month. If you average each stop/ticket takes about 15min per stop (taking into consideration any checks, writing the ticket and bitching drivers), that's 150 minutes out of a 720 minute shift. Every HWP officer I've spoken to has indicated this isn't that fucking hard. Just driving around, how many offences do you commit? Or how many fuckwits do you see on the road every day. I'd be surprised if the KPI's were still only 100/month.
@HunterValleyDan have you ever used a mobi pol to give a ticket? That shit takes 15 minutes on its own once you are done fighting with trying to use its shitty interface to put the location in. Again, HWP have other duties these days in most of their offices. They have taken back responsibility for crashes and for anything that requires long stints (eg traffic control). You are correct that 10 tickets isn't hard to get and if you don't get a reasonable amount of tickets each 6 weeks (not monthly) that questions will be asked. But that is just, as outlined many times in this thread and others on this video, ensuring police actually do what is expected of them.. Their job.....
They dont have a quota of tickets but they do have a certain amount of "contacts" per shift. A few years ago a couple of cops in WA got busted driving around a shopping centre carpark taking down rego plates and saying they had stopped these vehicles for a rbt, the problem they had was one of the cars they said they stopped belonged to their sargent!
What ?? The cops don't work for me personally ?? There goes my plans of having them come paint my house 😛But seriously, we all know they work for the politicians, and while they can't make tickets go away, they are the only ones that can make tickets never be written. Just ask Teflon Dan
I worked in the mining industry in WA's Pilbara. I was driving from one site to another through the town of Roebourne at around midnight in a company 'mine spec'd' Land Cruiser with the company's logo plastered all over it when a cop went by the other way. He turned around and followed me for a short distance and stopped me for a 'random' breath test. In my job, the alcohol limit isn't 0.05, it's ZERO and blowing 0.01 will have you on the first plane out of there and out of one of the highest paying jobs there is and the cops know that. So, why stop a driver who you know for a fact will blow zero for a breath test? Either they were bored out of their brain or there is a quota. Maybe not a hard and fast number but when they go back to the station they can tell their sargent they did X breath tests. Also, stopping drivers who they know will blow zero is a really easy way of getting that number up without having to do any actual work like arresting and processing the person. If I'm being cynical and there's another reason they'd stop a mine worker in a company car, please tell me what it might be.
They were conducting RBT, which is part of their job, the entire premise of RBT is to stop any random vehicle and breath test the driver, if they only stopped cars that were likely to be over the limit then that would be targeted breath testing. By the same token if they just worked a 12 hour shift they would have to show that they did something, much like yourself and any other person with a job would have to show that they did some sort of work during their work day. Quotas make no sense, imagine the cop working in a town of 100 people having to issue 100 tickets every month compared to a cop working in a busy capital city station, the country cop would have to somehow book every person in town every month 🤣🤣
Thanks Prepper, Number 2 and 4, help to explain a lot about the current state of corruption in our Force. Is there a law that states a police officer must wear a working body cam, when on duty? I remember our courts were filled with claims of false arrests and missing body cam evidence back in 2021/22
@@FeetalsGizz it is a policy, but the bwv are really poor technology as far as being reliable goes, in that most the time they won't charge, or the machine goes on the fritz etc. It's worse than the maccas thickshake machine on a hot day
@@aussie.prepper phones a watch CCTV system was taken in a raid everything has been settled in cort now I personally wasn't involved in the situation but it is my property that was raided and some of my stuff taken
@@dylang1090 one thing that Dick has Educated Me on is; There is No CAN'T in Their System, it's NOT in Their Vocabulary, They do what They want, and are Unaccountable to Us, the People, because of One Main Fact, We are No Longer under the Supreme Law of the Land, We are actually under a Political Party Dictatorship, Their sovereign independent and federal nation which They created in Their Australia Acts. Where has the "Government OF Australia" gone? As the Australian Government is NOT the Government OF Australia! It's all in Black & White, Their Own Documents, if ONLY We would Read!
Actually police do have performance targets that they are "Encouraged" to meet. Consistently meeting these targets makes it easier for an officer to rise through rank or transfer to areas more to their liking. Failure to meet these targets regularly as you can imagine makes life less prosperous for the officer concerned. So while there is no target set in policy or legislation there is an unspoken requirement and deep seeded culture for officers to perform and target easier crimes like traffic violations and other minor infringements for instance... Point is while there is no target set in law there are still targets set within each department.
Yes they do have to work, l just like everyone else, but there are no quotas. If your days is taking up criminal investigation there is zero expectation to issue tickets. Obviously you hav ego doing some sort of work every day to justify your existence.
I know a long serving ex Qld cop and YES there are or were weekly/ monthly quotas or 'Kill sheets' as they're known in the service, at least there was in Qld 10+ years ago apparently. I also still remember the Courier Mail doing a big story on it back in the mid 2000's with the then QPS commissioner and Pete Beattie's Police minister both admitting to it but via the usual age old double speak technique of course.
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@@aussie.prepper True, so many bogans, so little time lol. strong minded men refuse to submit to their heightened emotional state and have a high regard for self-control. Submitting to one’s emotions rather than taking a deep breath, lowering one’s heartbeat and fighting calmly with a clear mind. doesn’t come naturally to the immature. “Be like water my friend” as Bruce Lee would say 😎
Yeah. Most cops are just people doing a job. They don’t want to make needless extra work for themselves for no reason, sometimes even for good reason. But if you give them a reason they will. Most of them just want to finish their shift, go home, and watch TV like everyone else. Even bad cops won’t usually do anything they aren’t allowed to do, but they will nitpick any little thing and apply the maximum penalty.
I am certain they don't, l I have several friends that are and were high profile highway patrol, they even been on TV and they tell me that they don't and having quotes would literally be illegal.
@@aussie.prepper And that would be incorrect, I’m giving you this information directly, not “my mates, cousins, sister” horseshit. NSW Highway Patrol have direct quotas, these differ per each Polica Area Command (PAC). They are even broken down into segments, such as so many fines need to be issued, so many vehicle searches performed and so on.
@@aussie.prepper Been told officially by a cop that Vicpol has to hit a financial target. Not necessarily each cop or dept. But the Govt has set targets which they need to hit dollar wise. It is true. So you are wrong.
Tell me one single thing I said that's not correct. I think you're just scared of the truth. Let's put a wager on it. How much money are you willing to hand me once you lost?? Put up or shut up.
@aussie.prepper they are both government departments and if one has an agenda of raising revenue it is only natural the other would also. All governments departments are responsible for paying for their existence in one way or another.
Is there any connection between the word 'Police' and the word polic -e (policy) ie. corporations have and can enforce policies. Individuals have to 'consent' to held to policies.
I have a couple of questions regarding my rights when asking if I’m being detained and why by a police member? (Vicpol specifically) When asked do the police have to answer your question about whether you’re being detained? If not, why not? Will you be arrested if attempt to leave if they’re refusing to answer?
Technically.....other than when under the road act. You are required to give your name and address only if the police can articulate reasonable suspicion of a crime. Under the road act (driving a vehical) you must give name and address on request regardless. Under all circumstances asside from name address you should NEVER talk to cops. A polite reponce to cops is "officer I'm not discussing my day" then STFU. And Under no circumstances ever consent to a cop searching your person, home, bags or car. No warrant no search.
I remember in back in the days you used to get a fine for jaywalking. Especially when there is a pedestrian crossing or traffic lights and you don't use them and the cops caught catch you jaywalking. I remember when you never wore your helmet you gotta find as well on your push bike or you got a warning. Well I remember the cars back in the days in the 80s and the 90s getting defected for having tail lights out headlights out so their car looks like a motorbike. Why are they doing that anymore? I see so many cars with no indicating lights working no headlights working so they look like motorbikes brake lights don't work. People not even using proper possession crossings or traffic lights you know. Why are they allowed a don't get into trouble for now in the 2020. Specially the cars with their the headlights are out globes blown dangerous and the brake lights don't work because the globes blown. Look after your cars when you drive them you would notice that are lights out.
I drive around my area all day for my work, the sheer amount of tickets I'd issue if I was a police officer would astound my boss 😂. Roundabouts are particularly interesting 😅. No one knows the law for roundabouts in Qld. Please do a video about roundabouts rules and other road laws in Qld
There are quotas. It's been revealed through insider information. It's not official but there were emails from higher ups to locations with veiled threats demanding more performance on fines. So no, strictly speaking, not a myth.
@@nihilistic7840 Bosses always want more performance, does not mean there is a quota, it just means that bosses want more results and want you to do more work. It's quite common for bosses to want more work done in all industries.
@@aussie.prepper yeah but the emails in question were clear they wanted more fine revenue. That's a quota. If you are giving your reports the high jump because they're not fining enough you get cops running out of the stations getting in their cars and driving off looking for excuses to fine people. It's the worst case scenario of why quotas are bad. They were comparing revenue from station to station and making sure the others catch up. So it doesn't matter if suburb A is more law abiding than suburb B they're going to get fined anyway.
@@aussie.preppera quota does not need to reflect a pay rate based on that quota. @aussie.prepper gotta ask are you a cop. Because if not you sure know how to boot lick!
Because it is unlawful and makes no sense. You tell me how a quota would work or even be possible. How could a cop working in a remote one man station in a town with 80 people fulfil his 'quota' compared to someone working in the Centre of Sydney?
as in anything, it's not what you know but who. in saying that, there are key milestones needed to progress ranks that are not widely talked about, and one of those is the number of fines and arrests made. as for the disappearing ticket, these don't actually disappear, they are converted to official warnings, and warnings unlike fines are removed from your driving record in 12 months not the three or five years for fines. as for the unroadworthy police vehicles, you can record and then send in that information and report that vehicle, if it is found true, those officers are often quietly reprimanded (reminded of their responsibilities behind closed doors) and sent out again in a different vehicle. unlike a civilian, no fines are issued against the driver. you can also do this with other diving offences, however having clear video footage does help. it is also a good idea to publicly release that footage to wider media for actual police action against their own in such matters.
You're creating more urban legends, fines can not get converted to warnings once they are issued, it's an impossibility, they are there FOR EVER, they never disappear ever as long as you live. Just because you got your points back does not mean the fines have disappeared from your record. Any fines you have ever received from day one of getting your license are on your record and can be looked up at any time.
Who employs the people that employ the police, the government? If so arnt they suppose to serve us the people ( public service) or am i missing something?
@@BillMoore-jt9gg You have a strange writing style that makes it impossible to work out what you're trying to say. 'Who employs the people that employ the police?' The state Government does .'If so arnt they suppose to serve us the people ( public service) ' - Its called a 'Police FORCE' not a 'police service', a change that was made a long time ago and it wasn't made by accident, they are a 'force' not a 'service'. 'am i missing something?' - yes you are missing that they work for the state government who sets out their orders and operations. Covid demonstrated that clearly, or did they look like they were working for the people when they enforced unlawful covid restrictions that were breaching basic human rights of free movement as well as many other rights.
@@aussie.prepper sorry never was all that good at writing or grammar, thanks for your response what i meant was we all as tax payers pay the police wages via the government that are elected to represent us so i cant seem to get my head around the coppers not working for the people, thanks again for the reply.
@@BillMoore-jt9gg Yes taxes pay the wages, but they also pay for lots of other stuff that does not benefit us directly. Police take their orders from government to protect the government interest. They showed that given the choice they are happy to follow unlawful orders against the people when push comes to shove. There will likely be videos about that in the future, just concerned that it will get my channel banned, half my videos are already flagged and I don't think I have said anything controversial.
What about your common law right to 'Travel' in you private conveyance, without a contract with government? As opposed to 'Driving', which Black's Law Dictionary states is using a coach or car for the purpose of Commerce on the roads, ie getting paid for your time.
Police actually do have a duty in nsw to protect life and property. It is different to the usa. If a cop failed to do so they would be charged with dereliction of duty.
I wanted to clarify as your title was "police have to protect you" as an urban myth, insinuating they don't have to. Police are legally required to step in and protect you if you are under threat, for example, someone is assaulting you they are obligated to protect you. Contrary to america.
@@Rainmain667 That's why I clearly explained it after the statement. Police working for the people is the urban legend, police work for the state that employs them not for the people. Covid overreach and breach of basic human rights during covid enforcing unlawful rules against the people is all the proof that you need. I will actually be making a video about that in the future as I personally had several human rights unlawfully abused. Australian Human rights include freedom of speech, opinion, religion, association and movement, I will let you guess which ones were breached till the video comes out.
It is also funny how they can and do drive around in unregistered police vehicle but yet we cant .i have proven this to many ppl by just putting in a police cars number plate and doing a simple check.
@@Rainmain667yes i know that but they are not leading any example at all by what they are doing.Even page 4 of the nsw police standards of professional conduct says upholds the rules of the law.I wonder if any other government agencys can drive there cars have no ctp,not pay road tax.
Tell us about Police Discretion. This is where they have the power. Also comment on them Threatening to Arrest. Surely they have an obligation to arrest an evildoer, else not arrest. What is the justification for threats to arrest? What is a lawful command and how does a normal person tell the difference? I only obey them because they are armed and can get away with murder by crying on television.
There is no quota, but there sure is the climate of an Officer getting high counts of fines that successfully get prosecuted, for the pursuit of a promotion. Outcomes signify an active officer. There are also blitzes on certain offences, and therefore a rally to fine. Police are meant to keep the peace for the King, that being the Crown, and the Crown being the Subjects, so there is a duty to act.
@@Rainmain667 I personally think some stations would have targets, and goals. Other words indirect quotas. Noting Constables are supposed to be intendant, and not directed/instructed on performance and actions.
@JimmyCall they don't. Your stats are merely looked at and if you have none , you get asked to explain what you did, and you do. If no explanation then what was the officer doing for that 6 week period......
You have a proclamation for the said law ? As it says that is how it is , it is in the constitution of the Commonwealth of Australia , no proclamation, it's a pretend law .
@@aussie.prepper any law that has no proclamation by Queen or King is not a law , we are all so free to travel on the king's and queens roads unhindered
Only the officer issuing the infringement can remove it by officially requesting the infringement be withdrawn.
100% correct and then it would require a very good reason why or it would not be approved.
@@aussie.prepper Usually only withdraw due to admin error and another is likely to be reissued.
A quota system may not be officially recognised however the gold stars on every cops record enhance the chance of promotion to a higher pay grade.
Harder workers get rewarded, I guess that's how it should work anyway.
@@aussie.prepperthe best Tyrrant wins? You calling it work is offensive.
Urban legend number 6 we live in a free country
That’s definitely an urban legend, Covid showed us that 🤬
Exactly
@@aussie.prepperCOVID woke up a lot of sheeple mate!! About time too!! Wakey wakey everyone!!
@@waynerichardson1051 Not enough, but yes it has worked up many, but I think most will fall back in line if it happens again, I was going to do a video about what covid has taught us, but a bit worried about getting kicked off UA-cam, half my videos are already flagged.🤣
@@aussie.prepper Do the video, stay authentic and genuine to yourself mate!! COVID changed everything and everyone, for ever!! It was a snap shot of what's probably coming our way in the near future!!
On the base layer though, its the money that is broken!! It's been broken for years and years!! Inflation is Govt theft of our purchasing power!! Basically stealing off us!! We have to work harder and longer each year just to stay in the same place!! It's insane!! Fix the money fix the world!! COVID was a money grab, and a see how far they can push sheeple around!! And man sheeple can be pushed right up to the slaughter house doors in my opinion!! Farking hell!! The new world order is marching through, they're attacking us via a fear of loss mentality and a no hope approach! Look at how woke everyone is these days, again I say.... farking hell, what's happening here?
Do this,
Buy land away from big cities, have enough food and water for at least 6 weeks, (apparently toilet paper too) grow your own fruit and vegetables, have a freezer full of meat, a petrol generator and gas bottles full of lpg for the BBQ. Defend yourself and your family.
Buy Gold, silver and Bitcoin!! Mostly Bitcoin!!
They may not have a quota but do they have. KPI,s key performance indicators.
Everyone does. It’s part of being a productive member of any business or organisation, people don’t get paid to not perform in their job.
@@aussie.prepperwhat about the Injured One's that are thrown in the Bin, and the Boot comes down Harder and Harder with Every Step in a Fraudulent System.
The Australian Government System,
Where has the,
Government OF Australia System Gone?
@aussieprepper92 call it what you want. We both know its nomclecture.
@@chaffcutter58. That's a new word for Me, I will look up the Definition and get back to You.
@@chaffcutter58. Is that English 😂😂😂
The cold hard fact is every highway patrol officer is expected to write 100 tickets a month. Just because the politicians and senior police don't want to refer to them as "quotas", is political semantics.
"According to the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary, a quota is a limited number or amount of people or things that is officially allowed. It can also mean an amount that someone needs or expects to have or achieve.
According to the Oxford Learner's Dictionaries, a KPI, or key performance indicator, is a measure used to evaluate how well an organization, employee, or other entity is meeting its objectives."
Semantics.
@@HunterValleyDan now you are flat out making numbers up in addition to saying there is a quota.
Stop spreading bullshit.
@@Rainmain667... "making up numbers" ... you mean THE number I have heard numerous times by senior police, highway patrol sergeants & officers over decades.
KPI=Quota
Trying to argue different is semantics.
@@HunterValleyDan over decades? Try talking about this decade. We aren't talking about history
@@Rainmain667 Sure. The Highway Patrol Unit used to be attached to a patrol/district/command, along with GD's, detectives, parking patrol. admin & GSO's.Where they all serviced the local community. That started to change c.1996. The HWP Command has been an independent entity since about 2006. Meaning they 'might' be based at a local station, however they can be/are tasked anywhere in the state. Even though they are still considered as operational police, and technically 1st responders, their core duties since then are traffic laws/regs enforcement. That's it. As such, they are regarded as a specialist unit.
Meaning, all they are meant to do is drive around looking for tickets to write. Did you read the definitions of quota and KPI's? To add to that, a considerable amount of hours are provided in the form of RMS Enhanced Funding. The State Government Department responsible for transport, registrations, licensing etc... funds the HWP Command to do additional traffic enforcement duties.
So how likely or probable is it, do you think, that the HWP Command as a 'specialist unit', whose core function is to enforce traffic law, isn't going to have as it's main KPI, the issuing of a buttload of revenue raising infringement notices.
From those numerous conversations, I am reliably informed that the expectation on a normal roster is ten (10) tickets per shift. As they work mostly 12 hour shifts (not counting overtime), it averages out to about ten shifts per month. Also not counting overtime, or RMS funded shifts. 10 x 10 = 100 per month.
If you average each stop/ticket takes about 15min per stop (taking into consideration any checks, writing the ticket and bitching drivers), that's 150 minutes out of a 720 minute shift. Every HWP officer I've spoken to has indicated this isn't that fucking hard.
Just driving around, how many offences do you commit? Or how many fuckwits do you see on the road every day.
I'd be surprised if the KPI's were still only 100/month.
@HunterValleyDan have you ever used a mobi pol to give a ticket? That shit takes 15 minutes on its own once you are done fighting with trying to use its shitty interface to put the location in.
Again, HWP have other duties these days in most of their offices. They have taken back responsibility for crashes and for anything that requires long stints (eg traffic control).
You are correct that 10 tickets isn't hard to get and if you don't get a reasonable amount of tickets each 6 weeks (not monthly) that questions will be asked.
But that is just, as outlined many times in this thread and others on this video, ensuring police actually do what is expected of them..
Their job.....
No car can stay road worthy for long in Vic,the roads are fucked
They dont have a quota of tickets but they do have a certain amount of "contacts" per shift.
A few years ago a couple of cops in WA got busted driving around a shopping centre carpark taking down rego plates and saying they had stopped these vehicles for a rbt, the problem they had was one of the cars they said they stopped belonged to their sargent!
Yes, they get paid to do work so they must do work.
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a copper told me they have quotas
Then he lied to you.
@@aussie.prepper how would you know
@@izaacbanks3337 Because they don't have quotas.
@@aussie.prepper possible they don't anymore but they did
And what sort of Ammunition do These Purported Police use against Unarmed Civilians?
Hopefully none if they are unarmed 🤷♂️
@@aussie.prepperso it's Okay for the Military to use specific Ammunition against Unarmed Civilians that have Committed No Crime, Created No Harm?
@@Dumbc-Nutcan you give me an example?
@@JayGuitars1 anyone for Hollow Points?
Yes my father would turn in his grave if Hey saw footage of police brutality during the vivid scamdemic
Informative Video thanks
Thanks for the feedback and comment.
There are firm instructions to target certain issues, Yes there is a quota it's just worded differently. I have friends in the job 😊
What ?? The cops don't work for me personally ?? There goes my plans of having them come paint my house 😛But seriously, we all know they work for the politicians, and while they can't make tickets go away, they are the only ones that can make tickets never be written. Just ask Teflon Dan
My house need painting as well.
Well said. I think number 4 would be a wakeup call for most people.
Good to know where you stand. 👍
Are the police allowed to stage stops?
Not sure what 'stage stops' are, never heard of such a thing.
I worked in the mining industry in WA's Pilbara. I was driving from one site to another through the town of Roebourne at around midnight in a company 'mine spec'd' Land Cruiser with the company's logo plastered all over it when a cop went by the other way. He turned around and followed me for a short distance and stopped me for a 'random' breath test. In my job, the alcohol limit isn't 0.05, it's ZERO and blowing 0.01 will have you on the first plane out of there and out of one of the highest paying jobs there is and the cops know that. So, why stop a driver who you know for a fact will blow zero for a breath test? Either they were bored out of their brain or there is a quota. Maybe not a hard and fast number but when they go back to the station they can tell their sargent they did X breath tests. Also, stopping drivers who they know will blow zero is a really easy way of getting that number up without having to do any actual work like arresting and processing the person. If I'm being cynical and there's another reason they'd stop a mine worker in a company car, please tell me what it might be.
They were conducting RBT, which is part of their job, the entire premise of RBT is to stop any random vehicle and breath test the driver, if they only stopped cars that were likely to be over the limit then that would be targeted breath testing. By the same token if they just worked a 12 hour shift they would have to show that they did something, much like yourself and any other person with a job would have to show that they did some sort of work during their work day. Quotas make no sense, imagine the cop working in a town of 100 people having to issue 100 tickets every month compared to a cop working in a busy capital city station, the country cop would have to somehow book every person in town every month 🤣🤣
I worked at dope downs and the pissheads driving buses full of people were the only ones who didn't get tested.WAPOL do have quotas.
Thanks Prepper, Number 2 and 4, help to explain a lot about the current state of corruption in our Force.
Is there a law that states a police officer must wear a working body cam, when on duty? I remember our courts were filled with claims of false arrests and missing body cam evidence back in 2021/22
I don’t think it’s a law, I think it’s policy, and it still seems to go missing as recent high profile court cases have shown.
@@FeetalsGizz it is a policy, but the bwv are really poor technology as far as being reliable goes, in that most the time they won't charge, or the machine goes on the fritz etc.
It's worse than the maccas thickshake machine on a hot day
@@Rainmain667 Thanks mate, even the followers on this site are helpful. Glad I found this channel.
@@Rainmain667 yet my hundred dollar dashcam works perfectly at all times
10100+ subs now.👍👍👍
Yes, it's crazy, let's keep it rolling to get the message out there.
@aussieprepper92 Did you delete a comment or two Mr Prepper or was it the algorithm? ... Just curious to know
A video id like to see is how to get your property back from police
They aren't Police!
What sort of property? Why do they have it? Might be difficult considering Andrew Tate still hadn’t got his property back 🤣🤣👍
An interesting video would be police drone usage, there's not a great deal of info to be found. @@aussie.prepper
@@aussie.prepper phones a watch CCTV system was taken in a raid everything has been settled in cort now I personally wasn't involved in the situation but it is my property that was raided and some of my stuff taken
@@dylang1090 one thing that Dick has Educated Me on is;
There is No CAN'T in Their System, it's NOT in Their Vocabulary, They do what They want, and are Unaccountable to Us, the People, because of One Main Fact, We are No Longer under the Supreme Law of the Land, We are actually under a Political Party Dictatorship, Their sovereign independent and federal nation which They created in Their Australia Acts.
Where has the "Government OF Australia" gone?
As the Australian Government is NOT the Government OF Australia!
It's all in Black & White, Their Own Documents, if ONLY We would Read!
Actually police do have performance targets that they are "Encouraged" to meet. Consistently meeting these targets makes it easier for an officer to rise through rank or transfer to areas more to their liking. Failure to meet these targets regularly as you can imagine makes life less prosperous for the officer concerned. So while there is no target set in policy or legislation there is an unspoken requirement and deep seeded culture for officers to perform and target easier crimes like traffic violations and other minor infringements for instance... Point is while there is no target set in law there are still targets set within each department.
Yes they do have to work, l just like everyone else, but there are no quotas. If your days is taking up criminal investigation there is zero expectation to issue tickets. Obviously you hav ego doing some sort of work every day to justify your existence.
@@aussie.prepper criminal investigators and traffic branch are 2 very different things as are the expectations on these roles.
@@AussieOutlaw82 Exactly my point.
Thanks Mate!
Thanks for the comment…
I know a long serving ex Qld cop and YES there are or were weekly/ monthly quotas or 'Kill sheets' as they're known in the service, at least there was in Qld 10+ years ago apparently. I also still remember the Courier Mail doing a big story on it back in the mid 2000's with the then QPS commissioner and Pete Beattie's Police minister both admitting to it but via the usual age old double speak technique of course.
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Emotions get high, especially in men (/bogans). Most police are ok. Remaining calm, assertive and polite goes a long way toward the best outcome. ☕️🍩
100% but many confuse polite with submissive.
@@aussie.prepper True, so many bogans, so little time lol. strong minded men refuse to submit to their heightened emotional state and have a high regard for self-control. Submitting to one’s emotions rather than taking a deep breath, lowering one’s heartbeat and fighting calmly with a clear mind. doesn’t come naturally to the immature. “Be like water my friend” as Bruce Lee would say 😎
@@Sluggo57 unlike most cops
@@nihilistic7840 Most cops are authoritarians \control freaks. It’s in their DNA ☕️🍩
Yeah. Most cops are just people doing a job. They don’t want to make needless extra work for themselves for no reason, sometimes even for good reason. But if you give them a reason they will. Most of them just want to finish their shift, go home, and watch TV like everyone else. Even bad cops won’t usually do anything they aren’t allowed to do, but they will nitpick any little thing and apply the maximum penalty.
I’m willing to bet that they have internal competitions to see how can issue the most fines.
Yep. And the one who can issue the most random, unusual infringement notice.😂
I doubt it, they are short staffed and struggling to get through tasks as it is.
#2 is incorrect, NSW highway patrol have monthly quotas!
@aussie prepper
I am certain they don't, l I have several friends that are and were high profile highway patrol, they even been on TV and they tell me that they don't and having quotes would literally be illegal.
@@aussie.prepper
And that would be incorrect, I’m giving you this information directly, not “my mates, cousins, sister” horseshit.
NSW Highway Patrol have direct quotas, these differ per each Polica Area Command (PAC). They are even broken down into segments, such as so many fines need to be issued, so many vehicle searches performed and so on.
@@aussie.prepper Been told officially by a cop that Vicpol has to hit a financial target. Not necessarily each cop or dept. But the Govt has set targets which they need to hit dollar wise. It is true. So you are wrong.
I stopped after 3. You’re off ya head
Tell me one single thing I said that's not correct. I think you're just scared of the truth. Let's put a wager on it. How much money are you willing to hand me once you lost?? Put up or shut up.
He' got 10100 more subscribers than you... How many you have......0..
Perhaps no one likes you coz of your attitude. Just a thought.
@@aussie.prepper replies like stoneys just show that IQ is on a bell curve.
Half the population are basically mentally disabled at under 90 IQ
Sooo no quotas for police! So no such thing as revenue raising either with speeding cameras?
How do police quotes relate to speed cameras which are not even run by the police and have no association with police??
@aussie.prepper they are both government departments and if one has an agenda of raising revenue it is only natural the other would also. All governments departments are responsible for paying for their existence in one way or another.
Always good information ✌️
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Is there any connection between the word 'Police' and the word polic -e (policy) ie. corporations have and can enforce policies. Individuals have to 'consent' to held to policies.
No connection, you're falling into a trap.
I have a couple of questions regarding my rights when asking if I’m being detained and why by a police member? (Vicpol specifically)
When asked do the police have to answer your question about whether you’re being detained? If not, why not? Will you be arrested if attempt to leave if they’re refusing to answer?
Technically.....other than when under the road act. You are required to give your name and address only if the police can articulate reasonable suspicion of a crime.
Under the road act (driving a vehical) you must give name and address on request regardless.
Under all circumstances asside from name address you should NEVER talk to cops. A polite reponce to cops is "officer I'm not discussing my day" then STFU.
And Under no circumstances ever consent to a cop searching your person, home, bags or car. No warrant no search.
I remember in back in the days you used to get a fine for jaywalking. Especially when there is a pedestrian crossing or traffic lights and you don't use them and the cops caught catch you jaywalking. I remember when you never wore your helmet you gotta find as well on your push bike or you got a warning. Well I remember the cars back in the days in the 80s and the 90s getting defected for having tail lights out headlights out so their car looks like a motorbike. Why are they doing that anymore? I see so many cars with no indicating lights working no headlights working so they look like motorbikes brake lights don't work. People not even using proper possession crossings or traffic lights you know. Why are they allowed a don't get into trouble for now in the 2020. Specially the cars with their the headlights are out globes blown dangerous and the brake lights don't work because the globes blown. Look after your cars when you drive them you would notice that are lights out.
Not really sure what you mean, you contradict yourself a lot.
I drive around my area all day for my work, the sheer amount of tickets I'd issue if I was a police officer would astound my boss 😂.
Roundabouts are particularly interesting 😅. No one knows the law for roundabouts in Qld.
Please do a video about roundabouts rules and other road laws in Qld
Haha roundabout rules are stupid.
My man at it again
Thanks for the comment 👍👍
There are quotas. It's been revealed through insider information. It's not official but there were emails from higher ups to locations with veiled threats demanding more performance on fines. So no, strictly speaking, not a myth.
@@nihilistic7840 Bosses always want more performance, does not mean there is a quota, it just means that bosses want more results and want you to do more work. It's quite common for bosses to want more work done in all industries.
@@aussie.prepper yeah but the emails in question were clear they wanted more fine revenue. That's a quota. If you are giving your reports the high jump because they're not fining enough you get cops running out of the stations getting in their cars and driving off looking for excuses to fine people. It's the worst case scenario of why quotas are bad. They were comparing revenue from station to station and making sure the others catch up. So it doesn't matter if suburb A is more law abiding than suburb B they're going to get fined anyway.
@nihilistic7840 in 13 years I never saw revenue being compared.
Stats yes, because cops are competitive, but revenue, nope.
Not even in highway
You can't compare a brick layer to a cop,unless there is quotas
I did not realise brick layers have quotas, but I guess that makes sense. I always wondered if they get paid by the brick or per hour.
@@aussie.preppera quota does not need to reflect a pay rate based on that quota.
@aussie.prepper gotta ask are you a cop. Because if not you sure know how to boot lick!
Not able to hit like for the video. You hit like and nothing happens.
Try harder 🤣🤣
@@aussie.prepper Tried several times, even went onto something else and opened it again. Same results.
how do you no that there is no quoter
Because it is unlawful and makes no sense. You tell me how a quota would work or even be possible. How could a cop working in a remote one man station in a town with 80 people fulfil his 'quota' compared to someone working in the Centre of Sydney?
The scum blue line are a disgrace 👎
Liking your very informative videos.
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as in anything, it's not what you know but who. in saying that, there are key milestones needed to progress ranks that are not widely talked about, and one of those is the number of fines and arrests made. as for the disappearing ticket, these don't actually disappear, they are converted to official warnings, and warnings unlike fines are removed from your driving record in 12 months not the three or five years for fines. as for the unroadworthy police vehicles, you can record and then send in that information and report that vehicle, if it is found true, those officers are often quietly reprimanded (reminded of their responsibilities behind closed doors) and sent out again in a different vehicle. unlike a civilian, no fines are issued against the driver. you can also do this with other diving offences, however having clear video footage does help. it is also a good idea to publicly release that footage to wider media for actual police action against their own in such matters.
You're creating more urban legends, fines can not get converted to warnings once they are issued, it's an impossibility, they are there FOR EVER, they never disappear ever as long as you live. Just because you got your points back does not mean the fines have disappeared from your record. Any fines you have ever received from day one of getting your license are on your record and can be looked up at any time.
@@aussie.prepperthe court can’t remove a wrongfully issued fine?
The coppers are employed by the state or government who the fuck employs them? Mabe the people that elected them and payes their wages.
?? I don’t understand what you mean, you say the state or government employs them, then ask who employs them? The state government employs them.
Who employs the people that employ the police, the government? If so arnt they suppose to serve us the people ( public service) or am i missing something?
@@BillMoore-jt9gg You have a strange writing style that makes it impossible to work out what you're trying to say. 'Who employs the people that employ the police?' The state Government does .'If so arnt they suppose to serve us the people ( public service) ' - Its called a 'Police FORCE' not a 'police service', a change that was made a long time ago and it wasn't made by accident, they are a 'force' not a 'service'. 'am i missing something?' - yes you are missing that they work for the state government who sets out their orders and operations. Covid demonstrated that clearly, or did they look like they were working for the people when they enforced unlawful covid restrictions that were breaching basic human rights of free movement as well as many other rights.
@@aussie.prepper sorry never was all that good at writing or grammar, thanks for your response what i meant was we all as tax payers pay the police wages via the government that are elected to represent us so i cant seem to get my head around the coppers not working for the people, thanks again for the reply.
@@BillMoore-jt9gg Yes taxes pay the wages, but they also pay for lots of other stuff that does not benefit us directly. Police take their orders from government to protect the government interest. They showed that given the choice they are happy to follow unlawful orders against the people when push comes to shove. There will likely be videos about that in the future, just concerned that it will get my channel banned, half my videos are already flagged and I don't think I have said anything controversial.
L now think you work with the cops
Hi Mike! :)
Hello there!
What about your common law right to 'Travel' in you private conveyance, without a contract with government?
As opposed to 'Driving', which Black's Law Dictionary states is using a coach or car for the purpose of Commerce on the roads, ie getting paid for your time.
Wow can I play spot the sovereign citizen? Do I win anything?😂🎉
@@JayGuitars1 he wasn't hiding you boof head you get a clip round the ear hole for being a twonk
Good luck with that. Under/over stand 😅
@@artmallory970 comments getting delete - prepper suspected
Love it when sovcits out themselves as morons
Police actually do have a duty in nsw to protect life and property. It is different to the usa.
If a cop failed to do so they would be charged with dereliction of duty.
That’s why I said it in the video 🤷♂️
I wanted to clarify as your title was "police have to protect you" as an urban myth, insinuating they don't have to.
Police are legally required to step in and protect you if you are under threat, for example, someone is assaulting you they are obligated to protect you.
Contrary to america.
Bullshit I have fist hand experience @@Rainmain667
@@Rainmain667 That's why I clearly explained it after the statement. Police working for the people is the urban legend, police work for the state that employs them not for the people. Covid overreach and breach of basic human rights during covid enforcing unlawful rules against the people is all the proof that you need. I will actually be making a video about that in the future as I personally had several human rights unlawfully abused. Australian Human rights include freedom of speech, opinion, religion, association and movement, I will let you guess which ones were breached till the video comes out.
Was once the police service, been the police force of so.e tume now ....public serpents we still pay their wages through taxation.
You pay for a lot of stuff through taxation, that does not mean you own it.
@aussieprepper92 As an Australian citizen we actually can own very little, the government has a monopoly over most .
So if you record them they can seize your phone if they deem you have evidence on it ? Don’t use facial recognition btw
Possible depending on what you are filming, however their exhibit officer will not be too happy with them.
What is the best way to learn my rights and responsibilities when dealing with police in Victoria? Any advice is appreciated .
Study criminal law, or read up about it but make sure sources are credible.
It is also funny how they can and do drive around in unregistered police vehicle but yet we cant .i have proven this to many ppl by just putting in a police cars number plate and doing a simple check.
@gav6808 the tickets would go to the police department anyway. Who then pay the government. So what's the point?
@@Rainmain667yes i know that but they are not leading any example at all by what they are doing.Even page 4 of the nsw police standards of professional conduct says upholds the rules of the law.I wonder if any other government agencys can drive there cars have no ctp,not pay road tax.
@@gav6808 I don't disagree
what about SAPOL being sprung for quotas?
No idea, obviously doing illegal practices.
Tell us about Police Discretion. This is where they have the power. Also comment on them Threatening to Arrest. Surely they have an obligation to arrest an evildoer, else not arrest. What is the justification for threats to arrest? What is a lawful command and how does a normal person tell the difference? I only obey them because they are armed and can get away with murder by crying on television.
There is no quota, but there sure is the climate of an Officer getting high counts of fines that successfully get prosecuted, for the pursuit of a promotion. Outcomes signify an active officer. There are also blitzes on certain offences, and therefore a rally to fine. Police are meant to keep the peace for the King, that being the Crown, and the Crown being the Subjects, so there is a duty to act.
If only. All that doing more work accomplishes is more complaints and more work for no reward.
It's who you know. Not what you do.
@@Rainmain667 I personally think some stations would have targets, and goals. Other words indirect quotas. Noting Constables are supposed to be intendant, and not directed/instructed on performance and actions.
@JimmyCall they don't. Your stats are merely looked at and if you have none , you get asked to explain what you did, and you do.
If no explanation then what was the officer doing for that 6 week period......
So people that work hard get promoted and those that do not don't?? Seems like that would be normal for most jobs.
@@aussie.prepper It's not a normal job.
I agree with what your saying BUT you said it's law of the land.that is a false statement!
Not sure what you mean by that, nothing false about it, it’s literally the job they get paid to do.
You have a proclamation for the said law ? As it says that is how it is , it is in the constitution of the Commonwealth of Australia , no proclamation, it's a pretend law .
What are you talking about? Do you even know what proclamation means? What pretend law?
@@aussie.prepper any law that has no proclamation by Queen or King is not a law , we are all so free to travel on the king's and queens roads unhindered
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It's not an Airport, you don't have to announce your departure.
#3 unless you are danny Andrews
Well someone needs to be out of a job for that one.
full of shit
Which part? Or are you just taking about your pants?
You talk way too slow, but that's okay, I put you on 1.75x speed... 😊
Doh!
Maybe you listen too fast
@aussie.prepper the police station is a public building it was paid for by the taxpayer. It is not their private property.
See how that works out for you.