I enjoyed your review. Because of you I installed the front Hyperpro springs. I was easy to install since you demoed it in your video. Might go cheap on the rear and get the basic shock from Hyperpro. I am jumping on the band wagon to get you to do a video on the fork extenders. I installed them then later removed it. I like that little bit of fork rake/trail it provided. However, I felt that the wiring harness on the right side was to taunt. I am concerned about chaffing the wire bundle. I look forward to review from you.
Totally agree on this Matt! I do have almost the same setup: Hyperpro progressive front springs, but I got the (cheaper) adjustable emulsion rear shock. The main goal is for me to lowering the bike, but keep -correction- improved the overall handling of the bike. It rides so much smoother and also hard breaking is fully controllable and actually gives shorter break distances on the road. I haven't ride off-road yet, but I'm confident it will do excellent. Fun fact is: I do live near the Hyperpro factory here in the Netherlands. World class springs and suspensions supplier!
Thank you for the video!! A couple of questions: How much do you weight? How tall are you? Did the installation of the suspension played into increasing the height of the bike or did it remain in stock height?
I am 5' 10", or 178cm, and I weigh 210lbs or 98kg. This upgrade does not change the stock seat height, however the seat will not sag as much with this setup.
@@advmatt Thank you. Struggling with making a decision on getting this bike or something else... 5'6" so seat height is a bit of an issue. I keep telling my wife that I am not fat, I am just too short for my weight, lol. 215lbs here... Thanks again!
Awaiting a review on the fork extenders. Saw your installation video and ordered a pair. Since it is still winter in this part of the world I haven't installed mine yet. Hoping that's gonna improve the overall geometry. I still don't understand why they haven't addressed the geometry question on the new 2023 model. (I am riding the 2020 model when it just came out).
Thanks for the video. I've been in contact with a local suspension shop about making my suspension better. If nothing pans out from them, I'm probably going to go with Hyperpro. I've also heard that T7 oem springs work great in the forks, and don't need any of the preload spacers. Are you still running the NiceCNC fork spacers, and if so, are you happy with them?
I do still have the fork extenders installed. I haven't came to a conclusion on them yet. I haven't ridden offroad enough. I am still formulating my on road opinion.
I did replace the bags. I put on Giant Loop possibility bags because I got them at a huge discount. My old ones had tears in them. I talk about the luggage in this video: ua-cam.com/video/czS7O-WN2fI/v-deo.html
Just did the springs (and fork extenders) matt. Thanks for the advice, I like the setup. One question, what do you find are the best settings for the front fork compression and rebound damping?
Glad this setup works for you. My compression setting is around 5 clicks from fully closed and my rebound is around 7 clicks from fully open. I like my suspension stiff and fast. I had the rebound more open but it had a resonate bounce on the highway. Let me know if you find these settings work for you.
New 390 ADV owner ... vet rider ... wondering if the stock shock has "NO" compression setting and only rebound? Am I missing something? I see "rebound" at the bottom, but don't see "compression"? I also don't see it in the manual ...
@@advmatt Thankfully no 30 second opening ad this week 😁. Fifteen and then a five! - Frank * I hope the 5K was fun, we missed you at the Palmetto ADV Rally!
@@advmatt OUCH, sorry I shorted you there! Congrats on a LOT of running! The first night was close to freezing, but it was OK after that. And warm when the sun was up. - Frank
@@advmatt Ok, so the answer to the question of whether it was worth installing fork extenders is not clear and you have doubts. What negative traits have you identified so far?
@@centruminzynieriidrogowej3275 I have noticed at slow speeds on tight turns the bike wants to fall into the inside of the turn. I need to see how this feels offroad and when the bike is fully loaded. I will start getting into the dirt in a few weeks.
The stock suspension seems to work well so far but I'm also much lighter at 170lbs. Maybe just the fork springs would be good enough for me? I do use most of the travel in the forks now. The rear seems fine; I believe I have the preload at 6/10.
If it's working for you use it the way it is. Fork springs will change the way the bike feels for the better. You can leave all the preload spacers out since your weight is more normal.
Matt, I am so far satisfied with how bike works offroad, but I hate the way it works on small grooves on old paved roads. Does new set up helped you to feel more comfortable on paved roads with lots of patches? I feel mine as too stiff in the shock, my butt kinda jumps up a bit each time I hit a groove. Im trying understand wether new shock going to help me anyhow.
Start with fork springs to balance out the suspension. Part of the problem is the stock forks are really soft causing the rear to feel really stiff. Also open up the damping screw at the bottom of the shock to soften it. Try that before replacing the shock.
I have 23k miles. I am planning to push 30k this year. I don't have a good answer on how many miles this bike will do before it needs a rebuild. My best guess is 45k to 50k miles. It might be pushing it, but that is what everyone wants to know.
Nice job I did the similar upgrades to my 1200GS last year a big different . I know you sold your GS and really like smaller bikes but if you were to buy a mid size bike what would you choose?
I am evaluating which of the mid size bikes will work for me. I am also looking at the KTM 690 Enduro again because of the weight and power. Availability of bikes is a problem right now. The Aprilla Tuareg is interesting but Yamaha is reliable. Tough choices.
@@maxflight777 it is a bike I am interested in trying out. It might be a bit too rally for me. I am also interested in swinging a leg over the CFMoto 450
Maybe, one year, ktm will make a 390ish with 21/18 and ground clearance. Who knows.... The closest thing to that unicorn bike I have seen is the ajp pr7 with proven motor and almost ready to ride/tour. I belive Frank's Bikes in WA makes them street legal for usa Worth a look....
Thank You so much for Your experience. I am looking for a solution to upgrade suspension for My weight (120kg). Maybe Your experience will fit for Me🤔?
No, they do have a rubber bushing and not roller bearings. I expected roller bearings not a rubber bushing. It had been awhile since I have looked at this, but that is what I remember.
Hi Matt, I'm currently looking for videos about the Hyperpro suspension because I'm thinking about replacing mine. The stock suspension on my bike is actually quite good, but as you said it's a pain in the butt to udjast the preload of the rear shock and after initial setup I've never adjusted it again... Now my bike is at 24k on the odometer and the oil in the fork needs replacement, first 15k the suspention feeled nice and stable but now the oil in the fork is degraded and the rebound adjustment can't compensate for the difference in the oil properties anymore, and I started to feel a boat on waves effect when cornering. So I'm thinking to either just replace the oil in the fork or to also upgrade the rear shock, because I want to have the hydrawlic preload udjuster. The main concern for me is the price. I have 2 questions: 1. Did you select a standard weight suspension which rated from 70 to 100 or did you order the custom weight rating? What is your weight? My own weight is 80, but with gear it will probably be like 95 and with luggage I think it's more than a 100. Do you know what they meant by the rating from 70 to 100? Is it with or without gear? 2. Do you know if the rear shock can be serviced? I don't want to buy an expensive rear shock every 24k, so if it's possible to service it I will probably invest more in the shock, if not I will either buy a cheaper one or maybe even keep my stock one.
OK, there are a lot questions in here. You need to get the seals replaced in your forks. When the seals are replaced the oil will be replaced but it is also a good time to upgrade the springs. I am using a progressive spring, which works great. The Hyperpro shock can be serviced. I also have a progressive spring on the shock. Since the springs are progressive you don't have to be as concerned about the spring rate. I weigh about 95kg as well, but with all my gear I am around 115kg on the bike. The shock has performed really well. The Hyperpro comes with a five year warranty and mine came with one service included, which I plan to use this fall. Hope this helps.
@@advmatt Thanks for the reply! So as I understood you bought the suspension with the standard rating of 70-100 and it fits you fine. It's great that the rear shock can be serviced, I'll probably do the upgrade then. Regarding the progressive springs I will probably get them for the front fork too, but to be honest my stock front suspension is fine, it only needs the oil change to perform well again.
@@Ringer1982 when you change the shock you will really notice the front forks with the stock springs are not up to the task. I recommend changing the fork springs when the shock is changed to keep the suspension front to rear balanced.
@@advmatt hey thanks for the reply, i have the stock one. I got the bike with the lower shock on it and this spring put the regular shock on, and it would seem to me there is no oil because the damper seems to do nothing, it springs back super fast and it is wallowing through corners like a harley on dirt tires. I'm wondering if this is just how it is, or am i correct in thinking there isn't any oil? Also would you know how to fill it with new oil?
@@hunterferrand-mcbay166 it sounds like it has no oil. It should not behave like that. You have to have the shock rebuilt by a suspension company. They can replace the seals, fill the oil and then charge the shock with nitrogen. This isn't any job to do at home if you don't have the right tools. It will cost around $200 here in the states for the rebuild.
Hello Matt Happy spring! Or is that happy springs. I absolutely love my Hyperpro setup. Hands down 100% better everything. Keep em coming. Scott
Wow that's really cool and awesome review on it my friend. Keep it up and more vidz to come
I just did the springs and it was totally worth it and big thanks to Adv Matt for showing how to do it!
Right on!
I enjoyed your review. Because of you I installed the front Hyperpro springs. I was easy to install since you demoed it in your video. Might go cheap on the rear and get the basic shock from Hyperpro.
I am jumping on the band wagon to get you to do a video on the fork extenders. I installed them then later removed it. I like that little bit of fork rake/trail it provided. However, I felt that the wiring harness on the right side was to taunt. I am concerned about chaffing the wire bundle. I look forward to review from you.
I want to get a few 1000 miles on the extenders before forming a final opinion. Hopefully a few months from now. A video will be coming.
Good informative video.
Long winter up your way, you must be keen to get on the trails again
Can't wait to get out.
11:43 THIS!
Totally agree on this Matt! I do have almost the same setup: Hyperpro progressive front springs, but I got the (cheaper) adjustable emulsion rear shock. The main goal is for me to lowering the bike, but keep -correction- improved the overall handling of the bike. It rides so much smoother and also hard breaking is fully controllable and actually gives shorter break distances on the road. I haven't ride off-road yet, but I'm confident it will do excellent. Fun fact is: I do live near the Hyperpro factory here in the Netherlands. World class springs and suspensions supplier!
The only downside to this upgrade is what it does to your wallet. Cheers.
Thank you for the video!! A couple of questions: How much do you weight? How tall are you? Did the installation of the suspension played into increasing the height of the bike or did it remain in stock height?
I am 5' 10", or 178cm, and I weigh 210lbs or 98kg. This upgrade does not change the stock seat height, however the seat will not sag as much with this setup.
@@advmatt Thank you. Struggling with making a decision on getting this bike or something else... 5'6" so seat height is a bit of an issue. I keep telling my wife that I am not fat, I am just too short for my weight, lol. 215lbs here... Thanks again!
@@Wachuko-1 I have the Hyperpro lowering kit; standard -30mm with front and rear springs, -50mm with their oil emulsion rear shock
@@DutchCountryBoy 👍Great to know! Thank you! Added to my list just in case it is needed.
@@Wachuko-1 😂
Awaiting a review on the fork extenders. Saw your installation video and ordered a pair. Since it is still winter in this part of the world I haven't installed mine yet. Hoping that's gonna improve the overall geometry.
I still don't understand why they haven't addressed the geometry question on the new 2023 model. (I am riding the 2020 model when it just came out).
I need a few 1000 miles on the extenders before doing a review but one is coming, hopefully in a few months.
Is the bike still wearing the extenders, then? Just trying to understand the static stance in this video.
@@Patryk_Luna the stance sag won't change a noticeable amou t with extenders. I do still have the extenders installed.
Thanks for the video. I've been in contact with a local suspension shop about making my suspension better. If nothing pans out from them, I'm probably going to go with Hyperpro. I've also heard that T7 oem springs work great in the forks, and don't need any of the preload spacers. Are you still running the NiceCNC fork spacers, and if so, are you happy with them?
I do still have the fork extenders installed. I haven't came to a conclusion on them yet. I haven't ridden offroad enough. I am still formulating my on road opinion.
Great review, thanks. It looks like you have replaced your Amazon crash bar bags with something heavier?
I did replace the bags. I put on Giant Loop possibility bags because I got them at a huge discount. My old ones had tears in them. I talk about the luggage in this video: ua-cam.com/video/czS7O-WN2fI/v-deo.html
@ADV Matt And I JUST bought the Amazon bags! LOL. Just teasing you. I'm happy with the Amazon bags as I'm sure they will last me quite a while.
Just did the springs (and fork extenders) matt. Thanks for the advice, I like the setup. One question, what do you find are the best settings for the front fork compression and rebound damping?
Glad this setup works for you. My compression setting is around 5 clicks from fully closed and my rebound is around 7 clicks from fully open. I like my suspension stiff and fast. I had the rebound more open but it had a resonate bounce on the highway. Let me know if you find these settings work for you.
New 390 ADV owner ... vet rider ... wondering if the stock shock has "NO" compression setting and only rebound? Am I missing something? I see "rebound" at the bottom, but don't see "compression"? I also don't see it in the manual ...
You are correct. The stock shock does not have adjustable compression damping.
I already know the answer, but I like your work so I will watch. 😁 - Frank
Thanks dude!
@@advmatt Thankfully no 30 second opening ad this week 😁. Fifteen and then a five! - Frank
* I hope the 5K was fun, we missed you at the Palmetto ADV Rally!
@@OneOldManRiding the Half marathon, 13.1 miles, was a challenge, but worth it. I don't think I missed being cold, but it would have been fun.
@@advmatt OUCH, sorry I shorted you there! Congrats on a LOT of running! The first night was close to freezing, but it was OK after that. And warm when the sun was up. - Frank
Hi Matt, do you still have the front fork extenders on? The front rake looks a bit changed...
I do still have the extenders on. I am still evaluating if I like them. I need a few 1000 miles to make a decision.
@@advmatt Ok, so the answer to the question of whether it was worth installing fork extenders is not clear and you have doubts. What negative traits have you identified so far?
@@centruminzynieriidrogowej3275 I have noticed at slow speeds on tight turns the bike wants to fall into the inside of the turn. I need to see how this feels offroad and when the bike is fully loaded. I will start getting into the dirt in a few weeks.
The stock suspension seems to work well so far but I'm also much lighter at 170lbs. Maybe just the fork springs would be good enough for me? I do use most of the travel in the forks now. The rear seems fine; I believe I have the preload at 6/10.
If it's working for you use it the way it is. Fork springs will change the way the bike feels for the better. You can leave all the preload spacers out since your weight is more normal.
@@advmatt That may be a good upgrade for me. Also debating whether or not to go spoked wheels but seems like the cast are holding up well.
Matt, I am so far satisfied with how bike works offroad, but I hate the way it works on small grooves on old paved roads. Does new set up helped you to feel more comfortable on paved roads with lots of patches? I feel mine as too stiff in the shock, my butt kinda jumps up a bit each time I hit a groove. Im trying understand wether new shock going to help me anyhow.
Start with fork springs to balance out the suspension. Part of the problem is the stock forks are really soft causing the rear to feel really stiff. Also open up the damping screw at the bottom of the shock to soften it. Try that before replacing the shock.
@@advmatt, that you, i will try to do this. Nevertheless, did your set up made it any comfortable on patchy roads?
@@vadimegoraev3912 yes, my suspension setup made the bike handle much better.
Top ! how many miles have you done with the 390 Adventure? and how many miles do you think it would be able to do? Thank you for your response!
I have 23k miles. I am planning to push 30k this year. I don't have a good answer on how many miles this bike will do before it needs a rebuild. My best guess is 45k to 50k miles. It might be pushing it, but that is what everyone wants to know.
Nice job I did the similar upgrades to my 1200GS last year a big different . I know you sold your GS and really like smaller bikes but if you were to buy a mid size bike what would you choose?
I am evaluating which of the mid size bikes will work for me. I am also looking at the KTM 690 Enduro again because of the weight and power. Availability of bikes is a problem right now. The Aprilla Tuareg is interesting but Yamaha is reliable. Tough choices.
@@advmattperhaps test ride the Kove 450?
@@maxflight777 it is a bike I am interested in trying out. It might be a bit too rally for me. I am also interested in swinging a leg over the CFMoto 450
Maybe, one year, ktm will make a 390ish with 21/18 and ground clearance. Who knows....
The closest thing to that unicorn bike I have seen is the ajp pr7 with proven motor and almost ready to ride/tour.
I belive Frank's Bikes in WA makes them street legal for usa
Worth a look....
Thanks, I will take a look at the AJP. It appears a rally version of the 390 is coming, but who knows when.
Thank You so much for Your experience. I am looking for a solution to upgrade suspension for My weight (120kg). Maybe Your experience will fit for Me🤔?
I think a custom spring for your weight will be really helpful in getting the suspension setup properly. It transformed my bike.
@@advmatt , You taking about HyperPro?
@@A613A yep.
@@advmatt Shock absorber from HyperPro too?
@@A613A you can start with springs, that will help the most. Fork and shock springs will improve the ride for you.
Matt's new suspension has really improved his handling.
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I was told they don't have a rubber bushing in the eyes. Are they cheaping out?
No, they do have a rubber bushing and not roller bearings. I expected roller bearings not a rubber bushing. It had been awhile since I have looked at this, but that is what I remember.
Hi Matt, I'm currently looking for videos about the Hyperpro suspension because I'm thinking about replacing mine. The stock suspension on my bike is actually quite good, but as you said it's a pain in the butt to udjast the preload of the rear shock and after initial setup I've never adjusted it again... Now my bike is at 24k on the odometer and the oil in the fork needs replacement, first 15k the suspention feeled nice and stable but now the oil in the fork is degraded and the rebound adjustment can't compensate for the difference in the oil properties anymore, and I started to feel a boat on waves effect when cornering. So I'm thinking to either just replace the oil in the fork or to also upgrade the rear shock, because I want to have the hydrawlic preload udjuster. The main concern for me is the price. I have 2 questions:
1. Did you select a standard weight suspension which rated from 70 to 100 or did you order the custom weight rating? What is your weight? My own weight is 80, but with gear it will probably be like 95 and with luggage I think it's more than a 100. Do you know what they meant by the rating from 70 to 100? Is it with or without gear?
2. Do you know if the rear shock can be serviced? I don't want to buy an expensive rear shock every 24k, so if it's possible to service it I will probably invest more in the shock, if not I will either buy a cheaper one or maybe even keep my stock one.
OK, there are a lot questions in here. You need to get the seals replaced in your forks. When the seals are replaced the oil will be replaced but it is also a good time to upgrade the springs. I am using a progressive spring, which works great. The Hyperpro shock can be serviced. I also have a progressive spring on the shock. Since the springs are progressive you don't have to be as concerned about the spring rate. I weigh about 95kg as well, but with all my gear I am around 115kg on the bike. The shock has performed really well. The Hyperpro comes with a five year warranty and mine came with one service included, which I plan to use this fall. Hope this helps.
@@advmatt Thanks for the reply! So as I understood you bought the suspension with the standard rating of 70-100 and it fits you fine. It's great that the rear shock can be serviced, I'll probably do the upgrade then. Regarding the progressive springs I will probably get them for the front fork too, but to be honest my stock front suspension is fine, it only needs the oil change to perform well again.
@@Ringer1982 when you change the shock you will really notice the front forks with the stock springs are not up to the task. I recommend changing the fork springs when the shock is changed to keep the suspension front to rear balanced.
8:52 I think I can see why you are having problems 😂
KTM "Ready to race", exept for our ADV 390 :P ...Good job Matt!
Hey i'd like some guidance on the shock on this bike, I'm having some trouble and there's not much info online
I do what I can. Which shock, the stock one or the Hyperpro? What information are you looking for?
@@advmatt hey thanks for the reply, i have the stock one. I got the bike with the lower shock on it and this spring put the regular shock on, and it would seem to me there is no oil because the damper seems to do nothing, it springs back super fast and it is wallowing through corners like a harley on dirt tires. I'm wondering if this is just how it is, or am i correct in thinking there isn't any oil? Also would you know how to fill it with new oil?
@@hunterferrand-mcbay166 it sounds like it has no oil. It should not behave like that. You have to have the shock rebuilt by a suspension company. They can replace the seals, fill the oil and then charge the shock with nitrogen. This isn't any job to do at home if you don't have the right tools. It will cost around $200 here in the states for the rebuild.
@@advmatt alright thanks for the help, i guess I'll finally be bringing it to the KTM dealer for some work. I appreciate the help!