Great 15K update on the bike. I believe it's safe to say your 390 has been ridden harder than the engineers intended! That it has up so well, is impressive. - Frank
I think adventure bikes in general are engineered to be much more road-biased than the marketing would have you believe. The fact that some of them CAN be ridden like a dirt bike occasionally and survive the ordeal is just a plus in my opinion. Anybody that really adventures on their adventure bike has broken stuff, and you have definitely ridden that thing for real. Seems like a modest amount of broken stuff considering the kind of life your bike has.
exactly, when i look at the 1150 - 1250 GS i see a road bike in dirt dress, which is no shock to anyone. But a good reminder that GS is top dog in the full size 'round the world' adventure bike, and most of the world is paved, but not all
Well, the true fact is that 99% of all ADV bike purchases are made by POSERS… an occasional dirt road with a 1 “ puddle is the extent of their “off roading” when they are not Armor All-ing their Jeep Mall Crawler Edition’s tires…
@@BERZERKERSV4 When you live in eastern Canada where the roads are beated by frost you appreciate the suspension of adventure bike it is not because I am a POSER I have an adventure bike. And we have much more gravel roads than good asphalt road, and the good asphalt roads are straight and boring. So it is much more enjoyable on bad asphalt road and gravel roads.
@@fb1532 yep exactly, depends where you live, I live in Vietnam, even on road riding here is like off-road riding in the US or Europe, we don't buy ADV to look cool, we buy cos we need it.
7600 miles on mine in its first season. On/off road. Zero problems. No stalling. No cracked fairings. Nothing leaks. My chain is not prematurely wearing either. Bike has some drawbacks, but reliability isn't one of them. Agree that durability (cracked plastic) may be a problem, but I haven't broken anything. I suggest a number of reasons for stalling other riders have, one is being unaccustomed to a high compression lean-tuned engine. The other is bouncing it off the rev-limiter which will trigger the ECU cut the spark off to the engine. An MC is like a beautiful woman, be gentle with her or she'll cut you off.
Just over 6,000 miles on my 2020, so far so good. Same annoyances as everyone else with the Traction Control and needed ergonomic improvements (bar risers, footpegs). Appreciate the valve adjustment tip, I recently started experiencing that stalling, it happens about once a tank full now. Overall, I can truthfully say it's been a good bike and hope it holds up as well as yours. Keep up the great work, your vids are exemplary.
We had a 390 adventure for about 6 months doing a lot of trails and we also suffered problems with the rear shock it wasn't massive amount but it was leaking! We're seeing it more and more on the newer bikes.
This video is almost spot on with the problems i've had with my 2020 Adventure 390. By 12K miles, i've replaced both fork seals, replaced the rear shock with an identical one from eBay, broke the fairing, stretched the chain to the max by 5K miles. Never had the kickstand switch or stalling issue but plan to get my valves checked ASAP. My only gripe with the bike so far has been suspension. Expected much more from WP but for the price I understand.
Great video and what fun you must be having. A guy like you that is operating the bike the way you have been, should be considered a "test pilot" and should be more than happy to get regular reports from you. The fountain of information you could supply should be very helpful in the R&D dept. I can only think a company like KTM would be more than happy to make their bikes better and especially reliable considering where riders like you take them, the bike needs to make sure you come back.
Thanks for the update as reliability is the one of the biggest questions with this bike. I'm definitely wondering if there is a software update for the older bikes like on the 2022. Keep up the good work and ride safe 👍
My ‘21 has been solid so far with around 6k miles. I did have a clutch switch fail (bike would start in gear!) and after replacing it the stalling issue went away completely. No clue on why, but that’s my observation… Super fun bike - it definitely makes you wanna explore and go anywhere, albeit a bit slower than a dirt bike as the ground clearance & suspension isn’t for bombing rock gardens. After installing the Coober ECU I like it even more - added just enough extra midrange to make it better offroad and I find myself looking for 7th gear on the highway - it pulls a lot harder and just adds to the fun. Great videos on the 390! keep ‘em coming!
Thanks Matt, I have a 2020 390 Adv and really like this bike. My riding is mostly highway, perhaps 80%. and with only about 7,000 miles. Its real winter here now so no riding again till March or April. I too have had plastic issues - broken tab on the r.front headlight side piece its small and cheap but the tab breaks in only about 4-500 miles and really vibrates at low engine speeds I have carefully loosened all the mounting points of the the faring and retightens carefully in an attempt to locate adjustment issues but it just keeps breaking. But, this is a most excellent all-round bike for my kind of riding and suits my king of fun perfectly. I read/watch your channel every bell ring and have found your suggests very useful. keep 'em coming Matt, all the best
Well if anyone is put a bike to the test it's you.. Remember back when the first real issue was the height of the handle bars. Which was the first thing I replaced after watching your video. Hyperpro rear shock. Hyperpro Progressive fork springs. 48 tooth rear sprocket and fuel programmer from Best duel sport bikes. Torque increase 13% huge difference. And all the other goodies make for a happy traveler. Awesome video Matt. Thanks for your presentations....
I've had my 390 Adventure for just over a year and have 12,000km on it. I have had the chain wear issue and a issue with low oil pressure at idle when the bike is warm. I fixed the oil pressure issue by adding more oil to the bike and mentioned it when I got it serviced and they put more oil in it when they did the change. It was spec'd at 1.7L but it now has 2L and the problem is mostly sorted and I might see it once a month at the most. I don't like the factory tyres. They are good on the road but useless in the mud. But they are lasting a long time. The windscreen is a bit low but an extended screen has sorted the airflow out there. This bike is my first KTM and the biggest bike I have ridden. I wanted a bike in the 400cc to 700cc range and within my price range and this bike fitted what I wanted and was still light enough to pick up if I drop it (160kg).
Thanks for adding information about the low oil light. That is really helpful. I think these are great bikes. Once you change your tires to a more offroad focused tire you will really feel a difference.
Great motorcycle. I've had problems with handlebar screws, headlight plastics and fairings. When I put the handlebar lift I replaced it all with good quality allen stainless steel, thus also unifying measures. My bike is from 2020 and one of the first to arrive in Spain. I also had problems with quickshifter fixed with reprogramming. I've been with her 12.000 kms. My previous BMW F800GS bike with these kilometers had passed through the workshop several times. I have been with motorcycles for 45 years and I am very happy with the little 390. I would only change it if they take out a 490 Adventure, with 60 hp, measured seat height and maximum 180 kilos of full weight. Greetings from Spain.
Great video Matt, thank you! I've had my 390 adv now for one year and about 7000 km. Very happy with it and it's perfect for almost everything. I had the same stalling issue and also a problem with cold start. It died every time and had to be started twice when the engine was cold. These issues were solved by the KTM dealer within the warranty and no cost for me. They adjusted the valves as you said and also completed a checklist from KTM, since this is a very known issue with this engine. I think the bike is very reliable and fun to ride. I upgraded the hard stock seat to the KTM Ergo seat, put on a bigger Givi windscreen and replaced the stock exshaust with an Akrapovic. This bike will stay with me for at least another season :-)
Very informative thanks! It appears that there are quite a few more problems then I expected for this bike. I was considering a smaller bike for my Asia to London overland ride and the 390 Adventure seemed to tick many of the boxes. Biggest concern for me is parts availability whilst crossing Mongolia, Kazakhstan and Russia and I guess I’ll have to see more reviews on the other bike of choice and that’s the Honda CRF300 Rally. You’re right in your videos that a smaller, lighter bike is probably the way to go and I guess the GS will have to stay at home. I appreciate the detail you go into on your videos on this bike and thanks for the heads up on these issues which I will certainly take into consideration before deciding which bike to make the trip with! By the way I do hope someone from KTM actually watches videos like yours and addresses some of the issues….here’s hoping! Cheers and stay safe!
Very interesting and accurate I’d say. I’ve only covered around 2500 miles mainly muddy green lanes but I’ve not experienced any major problem yet. Regarding the rear shock, I removed the horrible mid exhaust box so don’t have any heat near the shock now. I used the Verex pre muffler delete which is superb quality
I just removed the resonator myself. Video coming coming in a few weeks. Bike sounds much better and it feels more responsive, but that could be a psychological effect. Removing the heat from the shock makes me feel much better. The resonator weighs 7.2lbs as well. Dropped 5 pounds removing it.
Never been dropped with all those off road miles! For me that is the most revealing part of this video. Clearly you are a good rider. But equally importantly you have the right bike for you and the conditions you ride in. Even so if you’d dropped it half a dozen times I’d still be 🤷♂️, so? Normal! As with my comment on another recent video a few days ago I am all about people getting the right bike for them. It might be a BMW 1200 with so many bars and bags that she looks like an alien spacecraft moving across the landscape. If you have the talent budget and aptitude for such a beast go ahead, be my guest. I will applaud 👏 the rocky section negotiated with the poise of a trials rider. Most people are over biked, this audience will agree i am sure. My comfort zone is this little beauty, to the cb500x and the VStrom 650 (which I currently own and love) at the top end of the trio. Yer there’s a theme there, 19” front. Road bike based. Good fuel economy. At least for the bigger two extremely reliable and will be for well over the 100,000 mark for most people. I’m here because I love to explore and learn. I’m not brand loyal so can appreciate the pros and cons of all.
Thanks for the comments. Riding a small light bike has opened up so much. I am looking to get rid of my R1200GS. I don't enjoy riding such a huge bike. Can I do it? Yes. Is it as enjoyable as riding my 390 Adv? Not by long shot. You already figured this stuff out. Cheers.
Nice review. Thank you for doing it. Unfortunate the valve adjustment is per shims. If screw adjusters then we can do them easily at home. All motorcycles should have the valve clearances check after a few miles as some will tighten, loosen up or be OK. Every bike is different. I knew a Kawasaki ZX6 (sportbike) that would not start after about 3,000 miles and it turned out some of the valve clearances had changed to zero clearance. So some valves could not close (where being held open). If doing much off road riding then just like the full enduro and MX bikes the fork dust seal can be pulled down and a seal cleaning tool (only a few $$) can be slid up, into and around the seal to remove any dirt. Then some synthetic silicone grease (or lithium) can be placed in the cavity, then push the dust seal back up. I do it on my 2022 300 XC TPI. The 890 in 2023 I think it is had extra aluminum braces installed to help support the dash / headlight up better.
Thanks for this Video, its my next bike, even i am now trough Central Amerika with my 650 DR! You do not need more as 400 cc, everything is weight you do not need! When back in April in Austria i will oder this 390!
Hi Matt, This is Patrick from India. Based on all reviews I have seen of yours, I have booked a 390. Thanks to You. I own a Harley Street Bob, which has become a bit too heavy for me , a 1993 Buell and a Royal Enfield 500 CC bike, . I am very eager to get on to the 390. Have a great day riding👍.
hey Matt , yes i have bought a 2021 ktm390 adventure , so far awesome bike , i have also a 2011 ktm250exc 2 banger ,which i have had no problems with it , i have had a 2014 ktm50exc , no problems , my son has has a 2013 ktm 500 exc and 2020 ktm 300 exc all no problems . i enjoy them for being one of the easiest bike to work on . mods on my 390 is the exhaust , changed out from the header .yo the muffler sounds alot nicer and has not made any difference to the running . looking forward to getting some ks up on it . good fair assessment , keep them coming cheers Steve/Australia
I just got my 390 and am still watching reviews so I can make my parts list. It's my first brand new vehicle and first motorbike. I wanna buy all the recommended parts for what I plan to do with it and do a proper build out. In the past, I've always pieced these things together. I'm sure I'll continue to do so with this bike. However, I want the necessities in advance. I'm so excited to get her built up so I can go have fun on the trails!!! I appreciate the content and I will keep an eye on my rear shock since you pointed this out. I'm a heavier dude at 230lbs but feel like I'll quickly grow into this bike and probably never grow out except to the 390/490 R versions if they ever come out. Thanks!
You said that this was your first motorbike than a couple sentences later you say you've always piece these things together not sure what's going on this is really your first motorcycle?
Not my first vehicle in general and Im no stranger to turning wrenches. Ive just never had a proper bike before. I gues by piecing these things together I mean Ill typically buy parts as I go along rather than getting everything I need upfront
Glad to see it has held up quite well considering your use. Mine always concerned me while I had it (only had KTM 2 strokes prior) but it did leave me stranded at 998 miles. That is something none of my other 15 or so bikes had ever done over my 24 years of riding. It just shut down from overheating out of nowhere at 60 mph on a backroad. Turns out there was a random bolt in the water pump that must have been wedged for the prior miles. Worked loose then took out the impeller. Very odd but it was completely fine after it was fixed. Aside from that I had the starting issue where from cold start of the day it might take 3 or 4 attempts to get it to continue running. Read about someones little sequence of starting and it actually worked. Believe this is also due to being so corked up... much like the stalling issue after higher rpm. Sold the bike shortly after as the T7 I had pre-ordered finaly showed up. It was fun for sure and so much more capable than it's numbers potray on paper.
Thanks for sharing your experience on this bike. Enjoy that T7. Great bike. The 390 Adv will always be out there if you decide you need a 2nd bike or a return to small! Doubtful though. T7 is pretty good.
Sounds nice and reassuring. I'm just getting the feel for mine, and I love it. Just ordered the AX41 Adventurecross tyres (tires) for it, which will make it a total weapon offroad. Only things I reckon I've still to do to it is get a lower chain guide and some sort of headlight guard. @ around 13:18 in your video, there is a big rock that looks like a skull. Very cool.
I have been owning the ADV 390 here in India for the past 2 Years and have done around 20,000 (12,500 Miles aprox) kilometers and I have faced non of the issues you mentioned except the one with the clutch switch, in my bike the clutch switch was the issue and was replaced under warrenty by KTM around 2,000 Kilometers ago and I havent faced the issue since. other than that great video, small note- although the 390 is marketed as an offroader but its really not, its made for the highway and is a great bike at that, especially here in India we have a strict limit of 100km\ph or around 60 m\ph on the highways we really do not need a bigger bike than this and it just makes so much sense here. I love the ADV 390 and what it has to offer since here in India it is so much cheaper than in America, here it only costs 4 Lakh Indian Rupees which is around $4500 which makes it a no bargain deal
That is a bargain. I have only had a few issues, nothing like has been reported from others that I found through my research. I blew two rear shocks and the valves had to be adjusted. That's it. This bike, with a few modifications is excellent offroad. I have take it to some crazy places. Cheers.
Thats a good video, nice review. Thats a lot of stuff, I've been a lil more fortunate with mine. Its a KTM though, it comes with the territory. They're awesome and have spirit but they do require more attention.
Sounds like a ton of possible issues. Great informative video. Well done. I was interested in buying one of these bikes, but I think ill pass on it now. Be safe out there and have fun!
I have only had two issues. The stalling issue fixed through the valve adjustment and a blown shock, solved with an aftermarket shock. I have around 27k miles on mine and it's still going strong. It is only a single bike sample size.
I have a Mk2 390 Duke which has done 23,000 km, and it has always run perfectly. I didn't need a shim when it was checked at 20,000 km, which explains why I haven't had the cutting-out problem you describe. My chain is fine, but I don't go off-road. Ditto the rear shock or fork seal problems. Bikes get a much easier life on the tarmac. Does your engine use any oil between services? Mine uses none. I think my 390 is a great bike. I am in northern Thailand. This engine was developed for use in India under harsh road conditions. It is a tough engine. I used to have a 950 Adventure. I only used it on the road. I went from London to southwest Portugal via Spain and back twice. It never broke down. In London the clutch slave cylinder went. A known problem, but that is all. I am a KTM fan. Excellent video. Well-explained. I have subscribed even though I am not an off-roader, although I sometimes take the Duke on very easy off-road terrain. Regards, Nick
Good review Matt. I've had my 390ADV since May with 5K on it. I had my rear shock go just before storing for the winter. Had the screen condensation issue as well as the cracked trim piece. Still a fund bike but worried a little about long term reliability.
I have done 38000kms on this bike in India Matt, and barring the issue of bike stalling, this is a perfect light weight ADV. I will get the valves checked to sort the issue, thanks for the advice.. my travel is mostly 70% highways and 30% mountains, this bike has been bullet proof in terms of performance at the price... This comment is especially since I owned a Harley Davidson in India prior to changing over to a KTM 390 adventure... Happy with the adventure till date🎉
It has been an extremely reliable bike for me as well. I have 44k kms on mine and other than issues with the shock everything else has been flawless. I have found a few times where it has not performed well but it has been few and far between.
Awesome, very comprehensive review! When I took mine in for its first service a while ago they did replace the bolts on the front caliper with longer ones. It's the EU model.
Thanks for the honest reliability assessment from the real world. I considered the 390 ADV but my local KTM dealer only stocks their dirt bikes and wasn't interested in ordering me a KTM "road" bike, possibly because they sell other brands and are pushing those brands (although they didn't try to sell me on another bike) or maybe they have some marketing agreement with another manufacturer that prevents them from selling KTM street bikes. 390cc seemed a perfect size for me and I liked the performance and features but I was a bit put off by the KTM reliability reputation. Race Ready is less important to me than reliability. I got a very good deal on a BMW G310GS and I love it. I wish it had a larger fuel tank. It's been trouble free and maintenance has been easy to do, but I only put 2500 miles on it the first year. I have another two years left on the factory warranty, which is nice. I'm getting into ultralight motorcycle camping. Hopefully you can get a beefier rear shock and won't have any more problems.
New shock is on the way. I was real close getting a 310GS. Rally Raid in the UK has some great kits for those bikes. A Rekluse auto clu5ch is really great for those bikes. I installed one on a 310R. Moto camping is a blast!
@@advmatt - Glad you found an aftermarket shock. Good luck with it. Definitely doing the same thing and expecting different results isn't a viable strategy. You're probably doing the stuff that most 390 ADV riders only dream of doing, but the bike is marketed to do exactly what you're doing so KTM should fix that rear shock design. Rally Raid does manufacture a lot of nice after market stuff for the G310GS. So far, I've been doing some lower cost upgrades that are "good enough". I try to get value oriented equipment, neither the cheapest nor the most expensive. The rear shock from Rally Raid is on my maybe list. The standard rear mono shock has been good enough so far but I haven't had it loaded and ridden hard off road. I'll ride off road and loaded with camping equipment, but I won't be riding it hard so the BMW shock with maxed preload may be good enough.
Thanks for the video! It sounds like a lot of the hate for KTM is just noise and their past reputation. I have a buddy with a 300 XC and he loves that bike; has also had no reliability issues. Glad to see the 390 ADV is not as unreliable as they say. I test rode one of these yesterday (coming from a 650 Ninja) and I'm going to try and buy one this week. I also test rode a Kawi Versys 300-X and a KLX300. Did not like the Dual Sport feel on the road, and the Versys felt so incredibly slow. This still felt like it had enough power, and was plenty of fun during my test ride.
@@kalnwi2023 I try to use higher octane fuel in all my motorcycles but I used much lower grades of fuel when I was in Baja and when I have had no other choice. The bike performed fine on the lower grade of fuel. I recommend the higher grade but I have gotten away with the lower grade.
Hi Matt, I have 390Adv 2020 model ( the first batch) . I’ve done 7k mostly highways, no issues till now. Enjoyed all the rides till now. As someone mentioned in the comments people who are not used to high rev engines they face the stalling issues. I used to ride 2016 390 duke, in the beginning I used to stall a quite number of times but overcame that. So I had that experience,I never had issues of stalling in the 390 Adv. Cheers mate
About stalling, had the same problem with the Duke 390, it’s completely gone after adding a piggyback ecu that adds some fuel in the rpm range. The engine becomes smoother and cooler, the latter can be noticed because the fan is less frequently used. But even cheap options like Fuelx already make a big difference. I personally tested Coober LM, more than two times as expensive as the Fuelx, result is similar. I now run the Rabid bike evo and this is an extra step forward.
@@advmatt It might be even more applicable to a ADV than a road bike. Hot conditions, slower driving with less airflow, some countries even have lower fuel quality. The low emission mapping can cause heating problems if the circumstances get a bit rougher. And the smoother throttle, the small single cylinder can sometimes be a bit jerky at low rpm. Win win :)
Just got 2022 model, and soon after 1st service we have already hit 5k on the odometer. Absolute smile and yeah once i got my speedometer short circuted but thanks to road side assist everything was easy
Wow, $180 to adjust the valves. What a steal!!! I know a guy that just had the shim and bucket valves checked (not adjusted) on his Kawasaki Concours and it cost him $1200.
Great review! I’m about 8k miles into my 390 and the only real issue I’ve had is with the seals on the front suspension. Started leaking with about 1k miles on it, replaced then leaking again at 5k. I’ve replaced the stock pegs with the Black Dog pegs and that made a huge difference in how it rides. Will be upgrading the skid plate soon as I’m getting better off road and don’t trust the plastic one. Also changed out mirrors. What is the windshield extender you have on yours? I need to invest in one as that stubby windshield gets a bit nasty at freeway speeds! Other than that, been more than pleased with the little bike. Was planning to ride it a year and move up in size but I’m really happy with the handling, weight, and capabilities of this little thumper!
Here is a link to the windshield extension I use: amzn.to/48Vb2xv . I have really enjoyed this bike. At 27k miles it has been really fun. Your bike has a lot more to give. The more offroad riding you do on this bike the more you might not want to move to a bigger bike. I prefer this bike to all others I have ridden when you get offroad. Get the skid plate. I have beaten mine. The stock one is really only for road riding. Enjoy your bike, its great. Cheers.
Thanks for great video.. I have 2021 now running KM 62000 around 38000 mile.. very good motorcycle. I had same your issue like the chain very paid ,but I solve it .I bought chain from Italy name of company is CARPIMOTO very good, just clean it , reer suspension very expensive, $587 in my country, I bought it after marker . thanks
I've had mine for a year now, 3k miles On & off road... No issues at all. I suppose the exhaust down pipe is quite rusty, but that is probably due to my lack of cleaning it in a British winter!
Thanks for another great video on the 390 ADV. I have 2000 km on mine, do you think I could still change out the chain at this point? Also, what chain would you recommend?
Yeah, I think you could change your chain. I almost did the same at 8k miles. The new chain will wear a bit faster with the used sprockets but it will still last longer than the stock chain. I dont have a chain recommendation. I purchased one from Rocky Mountai ATV & MC. I think it was the SK brand or something like that. Just make sure you measure the old chain to new. You might need to remove a few links from the new chain.
Just over 6K miles and my 390 began overheating. It’s now been in the KTM dealership since early August and still don’t have it back. I’ve missed out on some great summer riding because of reliability issues. Looking to transition to Honda as soon as the new Transalp becomes available.
@@advmatt I totally get that perspective and seems like you're definitely on the mechanically inclined side considering how and where you ride. The marginal fun would not be a trade i'd make personally as i err towards more reliability and piece of mind.
I actually bought my bike after having watched some of your videos. I still bought one and am very happy with it. Only issues I've experienced is the stalling issue and the bike does drink a bit of oil. The oil situation is to be expected given that most of the mileage is from doing 80-90mph for an hour plus at a time on road. The stalling issue for me was exaggerated by the fact that my air filter had popped loose at somepoint. I noticed that they're kinda hard to get clipped in upon replacing mine. I used a flathead to press the clip in and pull it back into place. I'm thinking about trying the resonator delete you have as well as changing the stock end cap and a k&n filter. Im a little concerned about the bike running lean with those mods because mine does stall. I'm curious how the community's bikes are holding up and if any of you are tuning and or running additional parts to compensate for running lean
I was able to solve my stalling issue getting the valves adjusted. It's worth having it looked at regardless of mileage. After break in they could be too tight. Glad you are enjoying this bike. I am out on mine now and I really love it.
Great video. On the rear spring shock issue, the max payload capacity is only 400 lbs. Seems you have packed a lot on. And on rough terrian that could give it a pounding.
Great comprehensive review. You convinced me not to buy one. Plus my local dealer is horrible. I have a Harley Pan America that has not been reliable either 😢
Keep in mind most of what I spoke about were complaints I found through research. My personal experience has been different. Valve adjustment at 8k miles fixed the stalling issue and I blew two shocks, rising hard. That has basically been it. This has been a great bike for me.
@@advmatt I get software issues but mechanical problems on a new bike is a problem for me. Kyle from Big Rock Moto had a Norden 901 that blew a rear shock with less than a 1000 miles. There is virtue in simplicity, ride safe 😎
The only reason I don't have the 390 Adventure in my garage is because the dealer does not have one in stock yet. BUT...with all the issue you have had I need to rethink or see if the 2022 has less issues but I would imagine it is the same.
The biggest issue I have experienced is the shock failure, twice. The stalling issued was sorted pretty quickly and changing the chain at time of purchase will keep the drivetrain going much longer. Good luck finding a bike. These are super fun to ride.
Great video with lots of good info. I would appreciate any advice in choosing a new bike that you can give as I'm struggling with deciding between the 390 Adventure and a Crf 300 Rally. I plan on riding in a similar way as you but with less luggage as most of my trips will only be for the day on a 50/50 mix of pavement and off road. Lots of forestry, twin track and occasional single track. I'm a small guy with a bad back so weight is an issue. Thanks in advance
If you're not planning to carry camping gear and very little high speed riding I think the CRF300L Rally might be the better choice for you. Seat height is a little lower and it is a little lighter. Good luck and enjoy the great days of riding ahead of you.
Man I must be the luckiest guy in earth - I have about 60-70k miles on Ktm’s over the past ten years and not a single problem or repair that wasn’t a scheduled maintenance/wear item. In 30 years I’ve had bikes from every manufacturer under the sun, and for whatever reason ktm has been the single most reliable. Maybe it’s because I avoid the first year of a new revision, maybe it’s religious maintenance , maybe I’m just lucky as shit. Who knows.
@@nsparacino I have e heard the same from other owners. Those with issues are the most vocal. KTM sells more bikes than anyone else, there has to be a reason. Cheers.
I own a 2020 390 ADV and it has 3200 miles to date , 98% street. I own 4 bikes and I love this little bike especially in tight corners and canyon carving. Off road I do not feel totally comfortable with it without higher bars and knobbies. At 2000 miles my right fork started leaking and I had it fixed. Now at 3200 miles it started leaking again! The same side. Since I only weigh 180 and I am not traveling with gear and 98% on the road I am baffled regarding the problem I am having with a leaking fork seal. I keep my bikes clean and this bike has not been in the mud. This is my 4th KTM, most have been very reliable but NEVER as reliable as my Japanese bikes.
Hi Matt, Funny I don't have a KTM 390 but I enjoy the channel. I would recommend having the shock rebuilt by a good suspension guy or like Race Tech? I think new quality non-KTM seals and a rebuild run about $250? Try aftermarket seals and see what that does for you? Good tip to replace the stock chain right away while the sprockets are new. Keep the old one for later or resale. Other than that, it sounds like a solid machine.
Great suggestion on the suspension. I spoke with EPM Performance about the shock and it is a very basic shock. They rebuild a fair amount of these. After market offers more adjustment so I am going to spend the money and see what happens. It will be better suited for abuse.
Just bought mine a week ago. We're in the snow (no problem) and ice (problem) time of year here in eastern Washington, but I've gotten a couple of rides in so far. Fun little bike. For the MTC, I pulled the rear wheel sensor and cable tied it out of the way which results in an ECU failure warning upon starting the bike. Press the menu return button a couple of times and the warnings are gone. A little black tape over the warning lights to keep things from being annoying. Hopefully someone develops a software fix for this. Did an early oil change and found very little debris in the screens and none in the filter itself.
Good to hear from you. Glad the filter screens weren't all clogged up. Maybe they are flushing the engines now before selling them. My hope is the new firmware for the 2022 is backward compatible. Get out and ride,,,,,, when you can!
I did a video on what I carry and the weight. With all my camping gear and food the luggage is just under 60 pounds. ua-cam.com/video/NM-TpFewff8/v-deo.html
Thank you for the detailed review. I am planning to but this bike. Pease let us know if you have replaced the rear shock with after market one, and if so which one.
Hey Matt. How's it going? It's Been a while... Thanks for sharing all the issues this bike has all around the world. As I own the same bike in India so it's very informative and helpful for me. Cheers!!! I would like to know your thoughts on why didn't you go for Honda CRF300 rally? Though that bike has less power than 390 ADV but CRF has more capability for going off-road.
The CRF300 also has a smaller frame and really soft suspension. I preferred the suspension and extra power of the KTM. The CRF300 was released about six months after I bought the KTM, so I would have to settle for the CRF250.
Great Video Matt! I too have a GS and looking for something smaller to play with in Colorado. Do you still like the 390 over say a CRF 300L with a 21” front tire and a little lighter? Have an opportunity to pick up a 390 but just wondering your opinion. Ps. I’m not a seasoned off-road rider. Thanks!
I havent ridden a CRF300L. When I bought the 390 the 300 wasnt out, but I still would have chosen the 390 because of the engine, electronics, and suspension. Although I had to upgrade the suspension. I was concerned the CRF250L was underpowered for my weight and rising style. I still love my 390, the weight difference from the GS is huge and my 390 is more comfortable than my GS. The 390 is tall compared to other small adventure bikes, but still easy to manage.
6500km on mine, early on I had the TFT shut off a few times while riding, software update sorted it out. My foot brake switch might need replacing because my tail brake light doesn't work, luckily the hand brake works. It stalls if I come to a stop sometimes not often, but I found it only happened when the bike was cold. Once it warmed up not a problem. My only real bitch is I can't pick up spoked rims! But all in all I've really loved this bike and have had some great mini advetures on it, can't wait to get out further. The only thing I would trade up for at this point is the 490 Adv or maybe a Norden 501 if they happen and that would only happen if my bike was worn out lol. But that said I would get this bike again in a heart beat. I really hope you're right and the 2022 firmware is backwards compatible with the older bikes. Resetting the TC is a bit of a pain.
I am with you, only bike I would replace this with is the 490 or 501, and that depends on how much it weighs and costs. Rottweiler Performance has a custom set of spiked wheels for our bike. They are pricey but ultra heavy duty wheels. They are pricey, but an option. Not sure if they ship overseas.
The bike abruptly shutting off when leaving the throttle or pressing clutch at higher rpms was observed on my duke 390 2017 (first batch). I got the throttle body changed and this was resolved
I have a 2020 ,390 Duke . after 10k I have had 1 problem, I broke the clutch cable and put that down to the fancy after market clutch lever I put on ! at the first service the dealer upgraded the ECM and I never had any of your problems. as to the chain it has on been adjusted once as is like new ! But I have chain OCD and keep it WELL lubed and don't drive off road.
I just got a new 2021. It is winter here now, didn't expect to use it till spring but did get 25km on it one afternoon. It died twice in that time, like I hit the kill switch, and one time it took a while before I could get it to turn over. Dealer is picking it up to check over, I wonder if there is anything I should ask him to check in particular? Also, I have read of the soft chain issue, do you think they would still be using crap chains on recent stock? If so I'll replace it now. And one more question, did you do the front or rear sprocket change on yours? Would you do that now? Thanks (your videos are great, well done and full of good advice)
A couple of things. I dont know if KTM started using a better chain, but it is doubtful. I changed sprockets when I changed my chain at 8k. The sprockets looked pretty good, but as a rule, when you can, change it all at once. For you, you can just change the chain before the sprockets get too used. I have had my bike stall or die if the heel of my boots hits the kickstand. This usually only happens offroad when my foot is back on the pegs. Not sure what could cause your problems. Thanks for the feedback.
Excellent and very helpful content for my decision. Regarding the scheduled maintenance and valve adjustments, are they very difficult on this bike?...how about compared to a KLR650 or even BMW R1200GSA? I liked to know maintenance requirements... does it need to go to dealership often or can a basic to mid-skill fellow do most of it himself? Just finished reading every single comment and reply. You are classy guy with all the Japanese reliabiloty bike feedback, Matt. I saw something from 2020 that said KTM was added 3 additional years to the 2-year warranty. Are your aware if that is still true? I'm looking at buying a new 2021. Regarding that, any important changes from 2021 to 2022? I know you mentioned ABS ststus issue was resolved starting in 2022.
There is a lot to answer here. Let's start with the valves. The space to work in is much tighter than a KLR or GS. I have completed all of the maintainence myself except for valve clearance. I took the bike to the shop because I didnt have the time. The new 390 Adv holds the traction control setting when stalled or power cycles. The cast wheels for the new bike are different as well. It is a really fun bike to ride. Let me know if I missed something.
@@advmatt First off, you've been a huge help already to the community! Thank you. I believe I read you have a 2020, so when you say new bike are you referring to 2021+ or 2022+?
hi Matt, thank you for your opinion and all information that you mentioned in this video. If I am right, you had BMW F 800GS. Did you do any video that you compare those two motorbikes? I wanted to buy the BMW but now start thinking whether the KTM won't be a better option - so it would be nice to hear from an experienced riders.
I did have an F800GS. There are a lot differences and a few similarities. The F800GS Carrie's its engine weight high. I dropped that bike all the time. I also had an aftermarket seat that made it really tall. A shorter seat would have helped with the drops. The F800GS is a reliable bike and does everything as well as any other bike. I just found it to be a bit mehw. It's not exciting. The KTM is really fun, light weight and easy to modify. I like riding a bike nobody expects to see on the trail. I have found it to be more enjoyable, I dont completely understand why. It has way less lower, its smaller and is more road oriented, well before I got ahold of it. Hope this helps.
Had the stalling a few times took it in and they checked it out and never had it from that point on. The only thing I would like changed is a larger gas tank would like at least, 18 liter tank that would give over 550 Km per tank of gas., now I am getting over 400 Km per tank, and want to do Newfoundland and Labrador, and would have to carry to much spare gas, in some areas. This bike runs on high test and a lot of small stations do not have it, hear in Canada. Even hear on PEI when we picked a gas stop found out, no high test, so was cutting it close to make the next station for high test gas. Hopping KTN will come out with a tank that I can replace the one on the bike with. Did that on my DR650 to a 20 liter tank, and like having another bike no more having to plan gas stops on a morning ride. I know they like to keep the weight down but at least give us the option of a larger tank. To me having a little extra weight in much better than running out of gas in the middle of no where, and there a lot of places in Canada where you do not have cell phone service, and at 73 years old I do not want to have to push my bike to the next gas station, as I am sure others do not as well.
I am with you. I want a bigger tank. Maybe something aftermarket will emerge. I ran my bike on regular gas in Mexico with no issues. Gas mileage wasnt quite as good but the bike seemed to run fine. You can carry some octane booster for the times good fuel isn't available.
Thanks for the really great video from a longterm standpoint. I have a KTM 390 adv (2022 version). The ride by wire throttle keeps malfunctioning, ie for no reason it just stops working in the middle of a ride and the engine sits on idle rpm. Have you heard about this issue or any possible solution to fix it? I took it to the service centre where they changed the throttle under warranty, but the issue is repeating again after couple months of usage.
Where on earth did you pay $180 to get your valves done…? I just called around for the 600 mile maintenance and they wanted $280 to basically change the oil, tighten the chain and check the fluids. Anyway thanks for the video. It was informative.
Just an FYI I had the stalling issue, though very in frequently. Mine was solved after the valves, intake and exhaust were adjusted at 9K miles. My firmware was not updated. - Frank
Thanks for the update! Recently I had went to a off-road course and notice the bike suddenly stalking when I was fast down shifting from higher rev on gear 2 to gear 1, not releasing/engaging the clutch as I let the bike roll in while braking I notice a sudden cut off like you said on your issue. High rpm on gear and clutching in might cause it. So you said the valve? I’m new to the bike so I’m wondering what valve is that? I might need to ask the dealers if there’s any issue there. Also I’ve seen some people talking about bend fuel line, do all bike have that issue or maybe just India? Maybe I should go check my bike about that too. Haha Oh one issue I had also is when my bike is at gear one clutch in, rolling on slope. I didn’t throttle but suddenly my rpm auto Rev to 4k + for no reason for 1-2 Sec before dropping back to idle rpm at 1.8k-ish. Have you heard of this issue before? Maybe it’s the Coober ecu that I’ve installed. 😂
I think the 4k rev you experienced was from the Coober. The valves I am talking about are the intake and exhaust valves on the engine. They require routine checks for proper clearance to make sure your valves are opening and closing at the correct amount.
for a bike to be off road I expect to see different welded joints more support stronger material than on road bikes. I expect to see better corrosion protection. they know the bikes going to be dropped and hard. parts should be designed accordingly. sadly it looks like they tend to tweak road bikes and add stickers to then. there is no massive difference in apart little more ground clearance, but even then often the ground clearance isn't so special. And fork travel is slightly more but still not good enough everyone bottoms out their forks at least half dozen times in no time. we are sadly at the mercy of accountants and engineers that design these bikes are largely muzzled by them. KTM does it really need to only have to be orange paint? Do manufacturers realize one of the first deal breakers is color? nice movie. Any chance KTM make a decent seat one you could sit on for more than 15 minutes without thinking this seat hurts. that applies to every bike they have ever made. I have owned KTM for well over 40 years.
Everything is a compromise. Design for the average rider and those of use with special needs will modify to suit, which we do. KTM after market seat is great. After market money maker for them. The price add for a quality is so little for so many complaints. Thanks for commenting.
@@advmatt I agree with most of what your saying. my thoughts are on the seat no the seats are by far the worst compared to other manufacturers. this doesn't mean i will go and sell my KTM or drop them it just observation i can go out on Kawasaki and ride further without saddle issues. Kawasaki team green but not everything they sell needs to be green. Love the channel you make great movies I hope you will be able to nudge KTM along in the right direction. So the point everything is a compromise. Is particularly relevant, Why? Because BMW the masters of business and selling picked up on this so and use it to make a shed more money. How? When you buy a BMW car you must select each individual item rather like a buffet lunch. So each customer now gets the product they want. No more one size fits all. great channel no need to reply life to short to reply to everything - have fun love the work you do
That was very helpful. I've had Hondas for the past 4 decades, and 15k mi reliability is always 100%. I was considering this bike next time...and I don't think so. The components seem a bit cheap and unreliable...despite a very good motor.
Great 15K update on the bike. I believe it's safe to say your 390 has been ridden harder than the engineers intended! That it has up so well, is impressive. - Frank
If the engineers didn't intend this sort of use, they should probably drop the "adventure" moniker...
Oh !!! he has really pushed the bike so far. I think it was intended as 30-40% off-road...Makers of this bike would be so proud of you Matt.
Just bought a 2023. Appreciate this video. Very informative! Thank you.
Hopefully you know exactly what you are getting. I have a great time riding this bike. Its a blast.
how was your bike now mate? planning on getting the 2023 version
I think adventure bikes in general are engineered to be much more road-biased than the marketing would have you believe. The fact that some of them CAN be ridden like a dirt bike occasionally and survive the ordeal is just a plus in my opinion. Anybody that really adventures on their adventure bike has broken stuff, and you have definitely ridden that thing for real. Seems like a modest amount of broken stuff considering the kind of life your bike has.
I completely agree. We beat these things.
exactly, when i look at the 1150 - 1250 GS i see a road bike in dirt dress, which is no shock to anyone. But a good reminder that GS is top dog in the full size 'round the world' adventure bike, and most of the world is paved, but not all
Well, the true fact is that 99% of all ADV bike purchases are made by POSERS… an occasional dirt road with a 1 “ puddle is the extent of their “off roading” when they are not Armor All-ing their Jeep Mall Crawler Edition’s tires…
@@BERZERKERSV4 When you live in eastern Canada where the roads are beated by frost you appreciate the suspension of adventure bike it is not because I am a POSER I have an adventure bike. And we have much more gravel roads than good asphalt road, and the good asphalt roads are straight and boring. So it is much more enjoyable on bad asphalt road and gravel roads.
@@fb1532 yep exactly, depends where you live, I live in Vietnam, even on road riding here is like off-road riding in the US or Europe, we don't buy ADV to look cool, we buy cos we need it.
7600 miles on mine in its first season. On/off road. Zero problems. No stalling. No cracked fairings. Nothing leaks. My chain is not prematurely wearing either. Bike has some drawbacks, but reliability isn't one of them. Agree that durability (cracked plastic) may be a problem, but I haven't broken anything. I suggest a number of reasons for stalling other riders have, one is being unaccustomed to a high compression lean-tuned engine. The other is bouncing it off the rev-limiter which will trigger the ECU cut the spark off to the engine. An MC is like a beautiful woman, be gentle with her or she'll cut you off.
Just over 6,000 miles on my 2020, so far so good. Same annoyances as everyone else with the Traction Control and needed ergonomic improvements (bar risers, footpegs). Appreciate the valve adjustment tip, I recently started experiencing that stalling, it happens about once a tank full now. Overall, I can truthfully say it's been a good bike and hope it holds up as well as yours. Keep up the great work, your vids are exemplary.
We had a 390 adventure for about 6 months doing a lot of trails and we also suffered problems with the rear shock it wasn't massive amount but it was leaking! We're seeing it more and more on the newer bikes.
This video is almost spot on with the problems i've had with my 2020 Adventure 390. By 12K miles, i've replaced both fork seals, replaced the rear shock with an identical one from eBay, broke the fairing, stretched the chain to the max by 5K miles. Never had the kickstand switch or stalling issue but plan to get my valves checked ASAP. My only gripe with the bike so far has been suspension. Expected much more from WP but for the price I understand.
I agree with you and had all the same issues. The WP would have better if proper spring rates had been used.
Great video and what fun you must be having. A guy like you that is operating the bike the way you have been, should be considered a "test pilot" and should be more than happy to get regular reports from you. The fountain of information you could supply should be very helpful in the R&D dept. I can only think a company like KTM would be more than happy to make their bikes better and especially reliable considering where riders like you take them, the bike needs to make sure you come back.
Thanks for the update as reliability is the one of the biggest questions with this bike. I'm definitely wondering if there is a software update for the older bikes like on the 2022. Keep up the good work and ride safe 👍
What was corrected in 2022 software updates ?
My ‘21 has been solid so far with around 6k miles. I did have a clutch switch fail (bike would start in gear!) and after replacing it the stalling issue went away completely. No clue on why, but that’s my observation… Super fun bike - it definitely makes you wanna explore and go anywhere, albeit a bit slower than a dirt bike as the ground clearance & suspension isn’t for bombing rock gardens. After installing the Coober ECU I like it even more - added just enough extra midrange to make it better offroad and I find myself looking for 7th gear on the highway - it pulls a lot harder and just adds to the fun. Great videos on the 390! keep ‘em coming!
Here in India we don't get adjustable front suspension ... Any way we can make it adjustable ?
Nice! Did you notice any difference in fuel consumption?
Hi! I am a big fan of the 390A and glad that I came across your video. Well put together video, simple & straight and no drama. Thanks much.
Thanks for the feedback. It's a great bike, so much fun to ride.
Thanks Matt, I have a 2020 390 Adv and really like this bike. My riding is mostly highway, perhaps 80%. and with only about 7,000 miles. Its real winter here now so no riding again till March or April. I too have had plastic issues - broken tab on the r.front headlight side piece its small and cheap but the tab breaks in only about 4-500 miles and really vibrates at low engine speeds I have carefully loosened all the mounting points of the the faring and retightens carefully in an attempt to locate adjustment issues but it just keeps breaking.
But, this is a most excellent all-round bike for my kind of riding and suits my king of fun perfectly. I read/watch your channel every bell ring and have found your suggests very useful. keep 'em coming Matt, all the best
Thanks, really appreciate the feedback!
Great review. I appreciate the time and effort to share your experience.
Well if anyone is put a bike to the test it's you.. Remember back when the first real issue was the height of the handle bars. Which was the first thing I replaced after watching your video. Hyperpro rear shock. Hyperpro Progressive fork springs. 48 tooth rear sprocket and fuel programmer from Best duel sport bikes. Torque increase 13% huge difference. And all the other goodies make for a happy traveler. Awesome video Matt. Thanks for your presentations....
I've had my 390 Adventure for just over a year and have 12,000km on it. I have had the chain wear issue and a issue with low oil pressure at idle when the bike is warm. I fixed the oil pressure issue by adding more oil to the bike and mentioned it when I got it serviced and they put more oil in it when they did the change. It was spec'd at 1.7L but it now has 2L and the problem is mostly sorted and I might see it once a month at the most.
I don't like the factory tyres. They are good on the road but useless in the mud. But they are lasting a long time. The windscreen is a bit low but an extended screen has sorted the airflow out there.
This bike is my first KTM and the biggest bike I have ridden. I wanted a bike in the 400cc to 700cc range and within my price range and this bike fitted what I wanted and was still light enough to pick up if I drop it (160kg).
Thanks for adding information about the low oil light. That is really helpful. I think these are great bikes. Once you change your tires to a more offroad focused tire you will really feel a difference.
Great motorcycle. I've had problems with handlebar screws, headlight plastics and fairings. When I put the handlebar lift I replaced it all with good quality allen stainless steel, thus also unifying measures. My bike is from 2020 and one of the first to arrive in Spain. I also had problems with quickshifter fixed with reprogramming. I've been with her 12.000 kms. My previous BMW F800GS bike with these kilometers had passed through the workshop several times. I have been with motorcycles for 45 years and I am very happy with the little 390. I would only change it if they take out a 490 Adventure, with 60 hp, measured seat height and maximum 180 kilos of full weight. Greetings from Spain.
Appreciate your video and just about to make a purchase and am glad you took the time for this video! Cheers!
Great video Matt, thank you! I've had my 390 adv now for one year and about 7000 km. Very happy with it and it's perfect for almost everything. I had the same stalling issue and also a problem with cold start. It died every time and had to be started twice when the engine was cold. These issues were solved by the KTM dealer within the warranty and no cost for me. They adjusted the valves as you said and also completed a checklist from KTM, since this is a very known issue with this engine. I think the bike is very reliable and fun to ride. I upgraded the hard stock seat to the KTM Ergo seat, put on a bigger Givi windscreen and replaced the stock exshaust with an Akrapovic. This bike will stay with me for at least another season :-)
The 490 is about the only bike I can see coming out that might replace this bike, whenever it comes out.
Very informative thanks! It appears that there are quite a few more problems then I expected for this bike. I was considering a smaller bike for my Asia to London overland ride and the 390 Adventure seemed to tick many of the boxes. Biggest concern for me is parts availability whilst crossing Mongolia, Kazakhstan and Russia and I guess I’ll have to see more reviews on the other bike of choice and that’s the Honda CRF300 Rally. You’re right in your videos that a smaller, lighter bike is probably the way to go and I guess the GS will have to stay at home. I appreciate the detail you go into on your videos on this bike and thanks for the heads up on these issues which I will certainly take into consideration before deciding which bike to make the trip with! By the way I do hope someone from KTM actually watches videos like yours and addresses some of the issues….here’s hoping! Cheers and stay safe!
Thanks for feedback. Your trip sounds amazing. Good luck finding the right bike.
Hope you aren't near Ukraine! Yikes!
And how are you going to get into Russia or China/Mongolia 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Picking up my new zero mileage 2023 KT390 tomorrow morning and I can't wait.
Fantastic. So many great miles ahead for you.
how was the experience now mate? any major issues? planning on getting mine
Very interesting and accurate I’d say. I’ve only covered around 2500 miles mainly muddy green lanes but I’ve not experienced any major problem yet. Regarding the rear shock, I removed the horrible mid exhaust box so don’t have any heat near the shock now. I used the Verex pre muffler delete which is superb quality
I just removed the resonator myself. Video coming coming in a few weeks. Bike sounds much better and it feels more responsive, but that could be a psychological effect. Removing the heat from the shock makes me feel much better. The resonator weighs 7.2lbs as well. Dropped 5 pounds removing it.
Never been dropped with all those off road miles! For me that is the most revealing part of this video. Clearly you are a good rider. But equally importantly you have the right bike for you and the conditions you ride in. Even so if you’d dropped it half a dozen times I’d still be 🤷♂️, so? Normal! As with my comment on another recent video a few days ago I am all about people getting the right bike for them. It might be a BMW 1200 with so many bars and bags that she looks like an alien spacecraft moving across the landscape. If you have the talent budget and aptitude for such a beast go ahead, be my guest. I will applaud 👏 the rocky section negotiated with the poise of a trials rider. Most people are over biked, this audience will agree i am sure. My comfort zone is this little beauty, to the cb500x and the VStrom 650 (which I currently own and love) at the top end of the trio. Yer there’s a theme there, 19” front. Road bike based. Good fuel economy. At least for the bigger two extremely reliable and will be for well over the 100,000 mark for most people. I’m here because I love to explore and learn. I’m not brand loyal so can appreciate the pros and cons of all.
Thanks for the comments. Riding a small light bike has opened up so much. I am looking to get rid of my R1200GS. I don't enjoy riding such a huge bike. Can I do it? Yes. Is it as enjoyable as riding my 390 Adv? Not by long shot. You already figured this stuff out. Cheers.
Fantastic video, thanks Matt!
Matt, your videos are simple and awesome.
I am watching every video of yours.
Thanks!
Great update on the little ktm. Enough things to consider for someone like me whos thinking of buying this bike.
Glad you found useful.
Excellent review. I am in the market for a new bike and the 390 is on my short list. Very helpful assessment. Cheers
@@youngypaul it's a great bike. I have almost 30k miles on mine.
Love what you're doing... we are watching 👀...
We are new to the adventure lifestyle... 7000 km so fare... now in turkey 🇹🇷
We are also driving the 390 adventure
Wish I could join you out there for the riding. Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for your honest assessment. You are right, people post when they have issues.
Nice review. Thank you for doing it.
Unfortunate the valve adjustment is per shims. If screw adjusters then we can do them easily at home.
All motorcycles should have the valve clearances check after a few miles as some will tighten, loosen up or be OK.
Every bike is different. I knew a Kawasaki ZX6 (sportbike) that would not start after about 3,000 miles and it turned out some of the valve clearances had changed to zero clearance. So some valves could not close (where being held open).
If doing much off road riding then just like the full enduro and MX bikes the fork dust seal can be pulled down and a seal cleaning tool (only a few $$) can be slid up, into and around the seal to remove any dirt. Then some synthetic silicone grease (or lithium) can be placed in the cavity, then push the dust seal back up. I do it on my 2022 300 XC TPI.
The 890 in 2023 I think it is had extra aluminum braces installed to help support the dash / headlight up better.
Yep, most motos are shim and bucket valve designs, or at least all the ones I ride.
Thanks for this Video, its my next bike, even i am now trough Central Amerika with my 650 DR! You do not need more as 400 cc, everything is weight you do not need! When back in April in Austria i will oder this 390!
Thanks for the update. The 390 is on my short list.
Hi Matt, This is Patrick from India. Based on all reviews I have seen of yours, I have booked a 390. Thanks to You. I own a Harley Street Bob, which has become a bit too heavy for me , a 1993 Buell and a Royal Enfield 500 CC bike, . I am very eager to get on to the 390. Have a great day riding👍.
Awesome. It is a fun bike.
hey Matt , yes i have bought a 2021 ktm390 adventure , so far awesome bike , i have also a 2011 ktm250exc 2 banger ,which i have had no problems with it , i have had a 2014 ktm50exc , no problems , my son has has a 2013 ktm 500 exc and 2020 ktm 300 exc all no problems . i enjoy them for being one of the easiest bike to work on . mods on my 390 is the exhaust , changed out from the header .yo the muffler sounds alot nicer and has not made any difference to the running . looking forward to getting some ks up on it . good fair assessment , keep them coming cheers Steve/Australia
Glad to hear you have had such good experiences with KTM. Gives me hope my bike will hold up.
I just got my 390 and am still watching reviews so I can make my parts list. It's my first brand new vehicle and first motorbike. I wanna buy all the recommended parts for what I plan to do with it and do a proper build out. In the past, I've always pieced these things together. I'm sure I'll continue to do so with this bike. However, I want the necessities in advance. I'm so excited to get her built up so I can go have fun on the trails!!! I appreciate the content and I will keep an eye on my rear shock since you pointed this out. I'm a heavier dude at 230lbs but feel like I'll quickly grow into this bike and probably never grow out except to the 390/490 R versions if they ever come out. Thanks!
You are in for some really fun miles. Enjoy every minute. Thanks for commenting.
You said that this was your first motorbike than a couple sentences later you say you've always piece these things together not sure what's going on this is really your first motorcycle?
@@davidhprince first KTM. I have had lots of bikes over the years.
Not my first vehicle in general and Im no stranger to turning wrenches. Ive just never had a proper bike before. I gues by piecing these things together I mean Ill typically buy parts as I go along rather than getting everything I need upfront
An excellent assessment of the 390. Great job, Sir.
Glad to see it has held up quite well considering your use. Mine always concerned me while I had it (only had KTM 2 strokes prior) but it did leave me stranded at 998 miles. That is something none of my other 15 or so bikes had ever done over my 24 years of riding. It just shut down from overheating out of nowhere at 60 mph on a backroad. Turns out there was a random bolt in the water pump that must have been wedged for the prior miles. Worked loose then took out the impeller. Very odd but it was completely fine after it was fixed.
Aside from that I had the starting issue where from cold start of the day it might take 3 or 4 attempts to get it to continue running. Read about someones little sequence of starting and it actually worked. Believe this is also due to being so corked up... much like the stalling issue after higher rpm. Sold the bike shortly after as the T7 I had pre-ordered finaly showed up.
It was fun for sure and so much more capable than it's numbers potray on paper.
Thanks for sharing your experience on this bike. Enjoy that T7. Great bike. The 390 Adv will always be out there if you decide you need a 2nd bike or a return to small! Doubtful though. T7 is pretty good.
Mine has the opposite issue. Colder temperatures starts right up, but warmer days takes a few tries to keep it running.
Sounds nice and reassuring.
I'm just getting the feel for mine, and I love it. Just ordered the AX41 Adventurecross tyres (tires) for it, which will make it a total weapon offroad.
Only things I reckon I've still to do to it is get a lower chain guide and some sort of headlight guard.
@ around 13:18 in your video, there is a big rock that looks like a skull. Very cool.
Those tires will really make the bike come alive offroad.
I have been owning the ADV 390 here in India for the past 2 Years and have done around 20,000 (12,500 Miles aprox) kilometers and I have faced non of the issues you mentioned except the one with the clutch switch, in my bike the clutch switch was the issue and was replaced under warrenty by KTM around 2,000 Kilometers ago and I havent faced the issue since. other than that great video, small note- although the 390 is marketed as an offroader but its really not, its made for the highway and is a great bike at that, especially here in India we have a strict limit of 100km\ph or around 60 m\ph on the highways we really do not need a bigger bike than this and it just makes so much sense here. I love the ADV 390 and what it has to offer since here in India it is so much cheaper than in America, here it only costs 4 Lakh Indian Rupees which is around $4500 which makes it a no bargain deal
That is a bargain. I have only had a few issues, nothing like has been reported from others that I found through my research. I blew two rear shocks and the valves had to be adjusted. That's it. This bike, with a few modifications is excellent offroad. I have take it to some crazy places. Cheers.
Thats a good video, nice review.
Thats a lot of stuff, I've been a lil more fortunate with mine.
Its a KTM though, it comes with the territory. They're awesome and have spirit but they do require more attention.
These bikes require a lot of love in exchange for the "Ready to Race" personality.
@@advmatt It says something when a lot of people are willing to put up with it, myself included. Lol
Sounds like a ton of possible issues. Great informative video. Well done. I was interested in buying one of these bikes, but I think ill pass on it now. Be safe out there and have fun!
I have only had two issues. The stalling issue fixed through the valve adjustment and a blown shock, solved with an aftermarket shock. I have around 27k miles on mine and it's still going strong. It is only a single bike sample size.
Great stuff as always Matt.
Great advise Matt, thanks
I have a Mk2 390 Duke which has done 23,000 km, and it has always run perfectly. I didn't need a shim when it was checked at 20,000 km, which explains why I haven't had the cutting-out problem you describe. My chain is fine, but I don't go off-road. Ditto the rear shock or fork seal problems. Bikes get a much easier life on the tarmac. Does your engine use any oil between services? Mine uses none. I think my 390 is a great bike. I am in northern Thailand. This engine was developed for use in India under harsh road conditions. It is a tough engine.
I used to have a 950 Adventure. I only used it on the road. I went from London to southwest Portugal via Spain and back twice. It never broke down. In London the clutch slave cylinder went. A known problem, but that is all. I am a KTM fan.
Excellent video. Well-explained. I have subscribed even though I am not an off-roader, although I sometimes take the Duke on very easy off-road terrain.
Regards, Nick
I have been really impressed with this bike. I have over 23k miles on mine and it is still running strong. Thanks for tuning in!
Thank you for this great video Matt!! This was really helpful 🙌🏽
Good review Matt. I've had my 390ADV since May with 5K on it. I had my rear shock go just before storing for the winter. Had the screen condensation issue as well as the cracked trim piece. Still a fund bike but worried a little about long term reliability.
I will keep smashing miles on this bike and we will see how it does. You put your share of miles on it. Good on you. After market shock is on the way.
I have done 38000kms on this bike in India Matt, and barring the issue of bike stalling, this is a perfect light weight ADV. I will get the valves checked to sort the issue, thanks for the advice.. my travel is mostly 70% highways and 30% mountains, this bike has been bullet proof in terms of performance at the price... This comment is especially since I owned a Harley Davidson in India prior to changing over to a KTM 390 adventure... Happy with the adventure till date🎉
It has been an extremely reliable bike for me as well. I have 44k kms on mine and other than issues with the shock everything else has been flawless. I have found a few times where it has not performed well but it has been few and far between.
2022 version significantly more expensive than 2021. Ty for your long term review of this motorcycle.
Awesome, very comprehensive review! When I took mine in for its first service a while ago they did replace the bolts on the front caliper with longer ones. It's the EU model.
Thanks for the honest reliability assessment from the real world.
I considered the 390 ADV but my local KTM dealer only stocks their dirt bikes and wasn't interested in ordering me a KTM "road" bike, possibly because they sell other brands and are pushing those brands (although they didn't try to sell me on another bike) or maybe they have some marketing agreement with another manufacturer that prevents them from selling KTM street bikes.
390cc seemed a perfect size for me and I liked the performance and features but I was a bit put off by the KTM reliability reputation. Race Ready is less important to me than reliability.
I got a very good deal on a BMW G310GS and I love it. I wish it had a larger fuel tank. It's been trouble free and maintenance has been easy to do, but I only put 2500 miles on it the first year. I have another two years left on the factory warranty, which is nice.
I'm getting into ultralight motorcycle camping.
Hopefully you can get a beefier rear shock and won't have any more problems.
New shock is on the way. I was real close getting a 310GS. Rally Raid in the UK has some great kits for those bikes. A Rekluse auto clu5ch is really great for those bikes. I installed one on a 310R. Moto camping is a blast!
@@advmatt - Glad you found an aftermarket shock. Good luck with it. Definitely doing the same thing and expecting different results isn't a viable strategy. You're probably doing the stuff that most 390 ADV riders only dream of doing, but the bike is marketed to do exactly what you're doing so KTM should fix that rear shock design.
Rally Raid does manufacture a lot of nice after market stuff for the G310GS. So far, I've been doing some lower cost upgrades that are "good enough". I try to get value oriented equipment, neither the cheapest nor the most expensive. The rear shock from Rally Raid is on my maybe list. The standard rear mono shock has been good enough so far but I haven't had it loaded and ridden hard off road. I'll ride off road and loaded with camping equipment, but I won't be riding it hard so the BMW shock with maxed preload may be good enough.
Thanks for the video! It sounds like a lot of the hate for KTM is just noise and their past reputation. I have a buddy with a 300 XC and he loves that bike; has also had no reliability issues.
Glad to see the 390 ADV is not as unreliable as they say.
I test rode one of these yesterday (coming from a 650 Ninja) and I'm going to try and buy one this week. I also test rode a Kawi Versys 300-X and a KLX300. Did not like the Dual Sport feel on the road, and the Versys felt so incredibly slow. This still felt like it had enough power, and was plenty of fun during my test ride.
This bike is a lot fun. I rarely want more power and it is easy to ride offroad.
@@advmatt Only expensive high octane gas ?
@@kalnwi2023 I try to use higher octane fuel in all my motorcycles but I used much lower grades of fuel when I was in Baja and when I have had no other choice. The bike performed fine on the lower grade of fuel. I recommend the higher grade but I have gotten away with the lower grade.
@@advmatt IC , it is a high compression engine
after all but good to know it can use poor people gas ( me bein the poor person lol) .
Good info! Thanks. Mine is just over 600 miles and I had the stalling issue twice.
Great review, much appreciated
Love from India 🇮🇳🤟🏽 it was very informative and helpful
Hi Matt, I have 390Adv 2020 model ( the first batch) . I’ve done 7k mostly highways, no issues till now. Enjoyed all the rides till now. As someone mentioned in the comments people who are not used to high rev engines they face the stalling issues. I used to ride 2016 390 duke, in the beginning I used to stall a quite number of times but overcame that. So I had that experience,I never had issues of stalling in the 390 Adv. Cheers mate
Good review. Not a owner of a 390 but I subscribed for the adventure. Stay safe
About stalling, had the same problem with the Duke 390, it’s completely gone after adding a piggyback ecu that adds some fuel in the rpm range. The engine becomes smoother and cooler, the latter can be noticed because the fan is less frequently used. But even cheap options like Fuelx already make a big difference. I personally tested Coober LM, more than two times as expensive as the Fuelx, result is similar. I now run the Rabid bike evo and this is an extra step forward.
Looks like I might need to give a fuel controller a try. Thanks.
@@advmatt It might be even more applicable to a ADV than a road bike. Hot conditions, slower driving with less airflow, some countries even have lower fuel quality. The low emission mapping can cause heating problems if the circumstances get a bit rougher. And the smoother throttle, the small single cylinder can sometimes be a bit jerky at low rpm. Win win :)
Just got 2022 model, and soon after 1st service we have already hit 5k on the odometer. Absolute smile and yeah once i got my speedometer short circuted but thanks to road side assist everything was easy
Wow, $180 to adjust the valves. What a steal!!! I know a guy that just had the shim and bucket valves checked (not adjusted) on his Kawasaki Concours and it cost him $1200.
It helps that this is a single cylinder engine.
Now this is what I call a real assessment. Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
thanks Mate. I have a 390 Also and I love it. Cheers.
Great review! I’m about 8k miles into my 390 and the only real issue I’ve had is with the seals on the front suspension. Started leaking with about 1k miles on it, replaced then leaking again at 5k. I’ve replaced the stock pegs with the Black Dog pegs and that made a huge difference in how it rides. Will be upgrading the skid plate soon as I’m getting better off road and don’t trust the plastic one. Also changed out mirrors. What is the windshield extender you have on yours? I need to invest in one as that stubby windshield gets a bit nasty at freeway speeds! Other than that, been more than pleased with the little bike. Was planning to ride it a year and move up in size but I’m really happy with the handling, weight, and capabilities of this little thumper!
Here is a link to the windshield extension I use: amzn.to/48Vb2xv . I have really enjoyed this bike. At 27k miles it has been really fun. Your bike has a lot more to give. The more offroad riding you do on this bike the more you might not want to move to a bigger bike. I prefer this bike to all others I have ridden when you get offroad. Get the skid plate. I have beaten mine. The stock one is really only for road riding. Enjoy your bike, its great. Cheers.
Thanks for great video.. I have 2021 now running KM 62000 around 38000 mile.. very good motorcycle. I had same your issue like the chain very paid ,but I solve it .I bought chain from Italy name of company is CARPIMOTO very good, just clean it , reer suspension very expensive, $587 in my country, I bought it after marker . thanks
I've had mine for a year now, 3k miles On & off road... No issues at all. I suppose the exhaust down pipe is quite rusty, but that is probably due to my lack of cleaning it in a British winter!
Thanks for another great video on the 390 ADV. I have 2000 km on mine, do you think I could still change out the chain at this point? Also, what chain would you recommend?
Yeah, I think you could change your chain. I almost did the same at 8k miles. The new chain will wear a bit faster with the used sprockets but it will still last longer than the stock chain. I dont have a chain recommendation. I purchased one from Rocky Mountai ATV & MC. I think it was the SK brand or something like that. Just make sure you measure the old chain to new. You might need to remove a few links from the new chain.
Just over 6K miles and my 390 began overheating. It’s now been in the KTM dealership since early August and still don’t have it back. I’ve missed out on some great summer riding because of reliability issues. Looking to transition to Honda as soon as the new Transalp becomes available.
Sorry to hear that. I have heard of some others with the same problem. Hopefully the Transalp will be awesome.
Good lord, the issues just keep coming. Hope your ownership improves!
It hasn't left me stranded so I can deal with all, so far. It is so fun to ride it's probably too easy to overlook the issues.
@@advmatt I totally get that perspective and seems like you're definitely on the mechanically inclined side considering how and where you ride. The marginal fun would not be a trade i'd make personally as i err towards more reliability and piece of mind.
Thanks for the video. Helpful.
Glad it was useful for you.
I actually bought my bike after having watched some of your videos. I still bought one and am very happy with it. Only issues I've experienced is the stalling issue and the bike does drink a bit of oil. The oil situation is to be expected given that most of the mileage is from doing 80-90mph for an hour plus at a time on road. The stalling issue for me was exaggerated by the fact that my air filter had popped loose at somepoint. I noticed that they're kinda hard to get clipped in upon replacing mine. I used a flathead to press the clip in and pull it back into place. I'm thinking about trying the resonator delete you have as well as changing the stock end cap and a k&n filter. Im a little concerned about the bike running lean with those mods because mine does stall. I'm curious how the community's bikes are holding up and if any of you are tuning and or running additional parts to compensate for running lean
I was able to solve my stalling issue getting the valves adjusted. It's worth having it looked at regardless of mileage. After break in they could be too tight. Glad you are enjoying this bike. I am out on mine now and I really love it.
Great video. On the rear spring shock issue, the max payload capacity is only 400 lbs. Seems you have packed a lot on. And on rough terrian that could give it a pounding.
Yeah, your right about pounding the shock. The aftermarket shock is hanging in there. Thanks for watching.
Great comprehensive review. You convinced me not to buy one. Plus my local dealer is horrible. I have a Harley Pan America that has not been reliable either 😢
Keep in mind most of what I spoke about were complaints I found through research. My personal experience has been different. Valve adjustment at 8k miles fixed the stalling issue and I blew two shocks, rising hard. That has basically been it. This has been a great bike for me.
@@advmatt I get software issues but mechanical problems on a new bike is a problem for me. Kyle from Big Rock Moto had a Norden 901 that blew a rear shock with less than a 1000 miles. There is virtue in simplicity, ride safe 😎
The only reason I don't have the 390 Adventure in my garage is because the dealer does not have one in stock yet. BUT...with all the issue you have had I need to rethink or see if the 2022 has less issues but I would imagine it is the same.
The biggest issue I have experienced is the shock failure, twice. The stalling issued was sorted pretty quickly and changing the chain at time of purchase will keep the drivetrain going much longer. Good luck finding a bike. These are super fun to ride.
Might want to look at Ceramic coating the exhaust if you think that's the issue for the rear shock. Great video BTW
I removed the resonator and installed a straight through mid pipe. Video coming after new year.
@@advmatt did you keep the cat?
@@mionggg there are two catalytic converters and both are located in the header pipe. I did not change out the header pipe.
Great video with lots of good info. I would appreciate any advice in choosing a new bike that you can give as I'm struggling with deciding between the 390 Adventure and a Crf 300 Rally. I plan on riding in a similar way as you but with less luggage as most of my trips will only be for the day on a 50/50 mix of pavement and off road. Lots of forestry, twin track and occasional single track. I'm a small guy with a bad back so weight is an issue. Thanks in advance
If you're not planning to carry camping gear and very little high speed riding I think the CRF300L Rally might be the better choice for you. Seat height is a little lower and it is a little lighter. Good luck and enjoy the great days of riding ahead of you.
I’ve owned 6 KTM’s so I think it’s safe for me to say KTM stands for Keeps Tools Moving. I may be crazy but I’m looking at number 7.
We KTM owners love our bikes so much we are blind to their faults. I can't explain it but I hear it over and over. KTMs are just so dang fun.
Man I must be the luckiest guy in earth - I have about 60-70k miles on Ktm’s over the past ten years and not a single problem or repair that wasn’t a scheduled maintenance/wear item.
In 30 years I’ve had bikes from every manufacturer under the sun, and for whatever reason ktm has been the single most reliable. Maybe it’s because I avoid the first year of a new revision, maybe it’s religious maintenance , maybe I’m just lucky as shit. Who knows.
@@nsparacino I have e heard the same from other owners. Those with issues are the most vocal. KTM sells more bikes than anyone else, there has to be a reason. Cheers.
It stands for "keep taking money"
I own a 2020 390 ADV and it has 3200 miles to date , 98% street. I own 4 bikes and I love this little bike especially in tight corners and canyon carving. Off road I do not feel totally comfortable with it without higher bars and knobbies. At 2000 miles my right fork started leaking and I had it fixed. Now at 3200 miles it started leaking again! The same side. Since I only weigh 180 and I am not traveling with gear and 98% on the road I am baffled regarding the problem I am having with a leaking fork seal. I keep my bikes clean and this bike has not been in the mud. This is my 4th KTM, most have been very reliable but NEVER as reliable as my Japanese bikes.
Thanks for sharing your experience. It is a fantastically fun bike.
Hi Matt, Funny I don't have a KTM 390 but I enjoy the channel. I would recommend having the shock rebuilt by a good suspension guy or like Race Tech? I think new quality non-KTM seals and a rebuild run about $250? Try aftermarket seals and see what that does for you? Good tip to replace the stock chain right away while the sprockets are new. Keep the old one for later or resale. Other than that, it sounds like a solid machine.
Great suggestion on the suspension. I spoke with EPM Performance about the shock and it is a very basic shock. They rebuild a fair amount of these. After market offers more adjustment so I am going to spend the money and see what happens. It will be better suited for abuse.
Another good video, especially chain and valve information. I will be ordering a chain for my partners 390, which chain did you purchase?
I purchased a chain from Rocky Mountain ATV & MC. I think I purchased an SK branded chain. It was a mid priced chain with really good reviews.
@@advmatt cheers!
Just bought mine a week ago. We're in the snow (no problem) and ice (problem) time of year here in eastern Washington, but I've gotten a couple of rides in so far. Fun little bike. For the MTC, I pulled the rear wheel sensor and cable tied it out of the way which results in an ECU failure warning upon starting the bike. Press the menu return button a couple of times and the warnings are gone. A little black tape over the warning lights to keep things from being annoying. Hopefully someone develops a software fix for this. Did an early oil change and found very little debris in the screens and none in the filter itself.
Good to hear from you. Glad the filter screens weren't all clogged up. Maybe they are flushing the engines now before selling them. My hope is the new firmware for the 2022 is backward compatible. Get out and ride,,,,,, when you can!
Thank you for your excellent review. It looks like the 390 will be my choice for gravel and bitumen touring.
How much weight do you carry at the back?
I did a video on what I carry and the weight. With all my camping gear and food the luggage is just under 60 pounds. ua-cam.com/video/NM-TpFewff8/v-deo.html
Thank you for the detailed review. I am planning to but this bike. Pease let us know if you have replaced the rear shock with after market one, and if so which one.
I did replace the rear shock. All you need to know is here. ua-cam.com/video/GWzFrAGVHNs/v-deo.html
Hey Matt. How's it going? It's Been a while...
Thanks for sharing all the issues this bike has all around the world. As I own the same bike in India so it's very informative and helpful for me. Cheers!!!
I would like to know your thoughts on why didn't you go for Honda CRF300 rally? Though that bike has less power than 390 ADV but CRF has more capability for going off-road.
The CRF300 also has a smaller frame and really soft suspension. I preferred the suspension and extra power of the KTM. The CRF300 was released about six months after I bought the KTM, so I would have to settle for the CRF250.
Great Video Matt! I too have a GS and looking for something smaller to play with in Colorado. Do you still like the 390 over say a CRF 300L with a 21” front tire and a little lighter? Have an opportunity to pick up a 390 but just wondering your opinion. Ps. I’m not a seasoned off-road rider. Thanks!
I havent ridden a CRF300L. When I bought the 390 the 300 wasnt out, but I still would have chosen the 390 because of the engine, electronics, and suspension. Although I had to upgrade the suspension. I was concerned the CRF250L was underpowered for my weight and rising style. I still love my 390, the weight difference from the GS is huge and my 390 is more comfortable than my GS. The 390 is tall compared to other small adventure bikes, but still easy to manage.
@@advmatt thanks for that insight! Hope to see ya out there one day!
Thanks WOW THAT'S AWESOME 🙃
6500km on mine, early on I had the TFT shut off a few times while riding, software update sorted it out. My foot brake switch might need replacing because my tail brake light doesn't work, luckily the hand brake works. It stalls if I come to a stop sometimes not often, but I found it only happened when the bike was cold. Once it warmed up not a problem. My only real bitch is I can't pick up spoked rims! But all in all I've really loved this bike and have had some great mini advetures on it, can't wait to get out further. The only thing I would trade up for at this point is the 490 Adv or maybe a Norden 501 if they happen and that would only happen if my bike was worn out lol. But that said I would get this bike again in a heart beat. I really hope you're right and the 2022 firmware is backwards compatible with the older bikes. Resetting the TC is a bit of a pain.
I am with you, only bike I would replace this with is the 490 or 501, and that depends on how much it weighs and costs. Rottweiler Performance has a custom set of spiked wheels for our bike. They are pricey but ultra heavy duty wheels. They are pricey, but an option. Not sure if they ship overseas.
The bike abruptly shutting off when leaving the throttle or pressing clutch at higher rpms was observed on my duke 390 2017 (first batch). I got the throttle body changed and this was resolved
Good to know, thanks.
I love my 22 KTM 390 ADVENTURE. I have found it to be far more capable than I am.
Me too. I am approaching 30k miles on mine. It's is blast ride.
The coil and gear selector sensor seemed to be the issue on my 2014 390 Duke. it was stalling regularly.
Good to know for an extra item to keep in mind with stalling issues.
I have a 2020 ,390 Duke . after 10k I have had 1 problem, I broke the clutch cable and put that down to the fancy after market clutch lever I put on ! at the first service the dealer upgraded the ECM and I never had any of your problems. as to the chain it has on been adjusted once as is like new ! But I have chain OCD and keep it WELL lubed and don't drive off road.
I just got a new 2021. It is winter here now, didn't expect to use it till spring but did get 25km on it one afternoon. It died twice in that time, like I hit the kill switch, and one time it took a while before I could get it to turn over. Dealer is picking it up to check over, I wonder if there is anything I should ask him to check in particular? Also, I have read of the soft chain issue, do you think they would still be using crap chains on recent stock? If so I'll replace it now. And one more question, did you do the front or rear sprocket change on yours? Would you do that now? Thanks (your videos are great, well done and full of good advice)
A couple of things. I dont know if KTM started using a better chain, but it is doubtful. I changed sprockets when I changed my chain at 8k. The sprockets looked pretty good, but as a rule, when you can, change it all at once. For you, you can just change the chain before the sprockets get too used. I have had my bike stall or die if the heel of my boots hits the kickstand. This usually only happens offroad when my foot is back on the pegs. Not sure what could cause your problems. Thanks for the feedback.
Excellent and very helpful content for my decision.
Regarding the scheduled maintenance and valve adjustments, are they very difficult on this bike?...how about compared to a KLR650 or even BMW R1200GSA?
I liked to know maintenance requirements... does it need to go to dealership often or can a basic to mid-skill fellow do most of it himself?
Just finished reading every single comment and reply. You are classy guy with all the Japanese reliabiloty bike feedback, Matt.
I saw something from 2020 that said KTM was added 3 additional years to the 2-year warranty. Are your aware if that is still true? I'm looking at buying a new 2021.
Regarding that, any important changes from 2021 to 2022? I know you mentioned ABS ststus issue was resolved starting in 2022.
There is a lot to answer here. Let's start with the valves. The space to work in is much tighter than a KLR or GS. I have completed all of the maintainence myself except for valve clearance. I took the bike to the shop because I didnt have the time. The new 390 Adv holds the traction control setting when stalled or power cycles. The cast wheels for the new bike are different as well. It is a really fun bike to ride. Let me know if I missed something.
@@advmatt First off, you've been a huge help already to the community! Thank you. I believe I read you have a 2020, so when you say new bike are you referring to 2021+ or 2022+?
@@DudeGuyWho it is my understanding the electronics issue with the MTC was corrected for the 2022 models.
hi Matt,
thank you for your opinion and all information that you mentioned in this video.
If I am right, you had BMW F 800GS. Did you do any video that you compare those two motorbikes?
I wanted to buy the BMW but now start thinking whether the KTM won't be a better option - so it would be nice to hear from an experienced riders.
I did have an F800GS. There are a lot differences and a few similarities. The F800GS Carrie's its engine weight high. I dropped that bike all the time. I also had an aftermarket seat that made it really tall. A shorter seat would have helped with the drops. The F800GS is a reliable bike and does everything as well as any other bike. I just found it to be a bit mehw. It's not exciting. The KTM is really fun, light weight and easy to modify. I like riding a bike nobody expects to see on the trail. I have found it to be more enjoyable, I dont completely understand why. It has way less lower, its smaller and is more road oriented, well before I got ahold of it. Hope this helps.
Had the stalling a few times took it in and they checked it out and never had it from that point on. The only thing I would like changed is a larger gas tank would like at least, 18 liter tank that would give over 550 Km per tank of gas., now I am getting over 400 Km per tank, and want to do Newfoundland and Labrador, and would have to carry to much spare gas, in some areas. This bike runs on high test and a lot of small stations do not have it, hear in Canada. Even hear on PEI when we picked a gas stop found out, no high test, so was cutting it close to make the next station for high test gas. Hopping KTN will come out with a tank that I can replace the one on the bike with. Did that on my DR650 to a 20 liter tank, and like having another bike no more having to plan gas stops on a morning ride. I know they like to keep the weight down but at least give us the option of a larger tank. To me having a little extra weight in much better than running out of gas in the middle of no where, and there a lot of places in Canada where you do not have cell phone service, and at 73 years old I do not want to have to push my bike to the next gas station, as I am sure others do not as well.
I am with you. I want a bigger tank. Maybe something aftermarket will emerge. I ran my bike on regular gas in Mexico with no issues. Gas mileage wasnt quite as good but the bike seemed to run fine. You can carry some octane booster for the times good fuel isn't available.
Thanks for the really great video from a longterm standpoint.
I have a KTM 390 adv (2022 version). The ride by wire throttle keeps malfunctioning, ie for no reason it just stops working in the middle of a ride and the engine sits on idle rpm.
Have you heard about this issue or any possible solution to fix it? I took it to the service centre where they changed the throttle under warranty, but the issue is repeating again after couple months of usage.
That sounds terrible. I have not heard of this issue. Goodluck getting it repaired properly.
it s been 7300 miles. no issues at all. i love it but i feel like i need go for a higher cc bike for loong journeys.
I get that. Longer journeys take more effort on this bike.
Considering trying the 390 for my first adventure style
It's a great bike. I have almost 30k miles on mine. There are lots of aftermarket parts for getting it to fit you.
@@advmatt awesome thanks!
Where on earth did you pay $180 to get your valves done…? I just called around for the 600 mile maintenance and they wanted $280 to basically change the oil, tighten the chain and check the fluids. Anyway thanks for the video. It was informative.
Local KTM dealership in Bakersfield, CA. I am sure prices have gone up. I will be doing a 30k mile assessment in a few months.
Just an FYI I had the stalling issue, though very in frequently. Mine was solved after the valves, intake and exhaust were adjusted at 9K miles. My firmware was not updated. - Frank
Thanks for adding that bit. I really think it's a valve adjustment issue. Hearing you had the same experience helps confirm it.
Thanks for the update!
Recently I had went to a off-road course and notice the bike suddenly stalking when I was fast down shifting from higher rev on gear 2 to gear 1, not releasing/engaging the clutch as I let the bike roll in while braking I notice a sudden cut off like you said on your issue. High rpm on gear and clutching in might cause it. So you said the valve? I’m new to the bike so I’m wondering what valve is that? I might need to ask the dealers if there’s any issue there.
Also I’ve seen some people talking about bend fuel line, do all bike have that issue or maybe just India? Maybe I should go check my bike about that too. Haha
Oh one issue I had also is when my bike is at gear one clutch in, rolling on slope. I didn’t throttle but suddenly my rpm auto Rev to 4k + for no reason for 1-2 Sec before dropping back to idle rpm at 1.8k-ish. Have you heard of this issue before? Maybe it’s the Coober ecu that I’ve installed. 😂
I think the 4k rev you experienced was from the Coober. The valves I am talking about are the intake and exhaust valves on the engine. They require routine checks for proper clearance to make sure your valves are opening and closing at the correct amount.
for a bike to be off road I expect to see different welded joints more support stronger material than on road bikes. I expect to see better corrosion protection. they know the bikes going to be dropped and hard. parts should be designed accordingly. sadly it looks like they tend to tweak road bikes and add stickers to then. there is no massive difference in apart little more ground clearance, but even then often the ground clearance isn't so special. And fork travel is slightly more but still not good enough everyone bottoms out their forks at least half dozen times in no time. we are sadly at the mercy of accountants and engineers that design these bikes are largely muzzled by them. KTM does it really need to only have to be orange paint? Do manufacturers realize one of the first deal breakers is color? nice movie. Any chance KTM make a decent seat one you could sit on for more than 15 minutes without thinking this seat hurts. that applies to every bike they have ever made. I have owned KTM for well over 40 years.
Everything is a compromise. Design for the average rider and those of use with special needs will modify to suit, which we do. KTM after market seat is great. After market money maker for them. The price add for a quality is so little for so many complaints. Thanks for commenting.
@@advmatt I agree with most of what your saying. my thoughts are on the seat no the seats are by far the worst compared to other manufacturers. this doesn't mean i will go and sell my KTM or drop them it just observation i can go out on Kawasaki and ride further without saddle issues. Kawasaki team green but not everything they sell needs to be green. Love the channel you make great movies I hope you will be able to nudge KTM along in the right direction. So the point everything is a compromise. Is particularly relevant, Why? Because BMW the masters of business and selling picked up on this so and use it to make a shed more money. How? When you buy a BMW car you must select each individual item rather like a buffet lunch. So each customer now gets the product they want. No more one size fits all. great channel no need to reply life to short to reply to everything - have fun love the work you do
That was very helpful. I've had Hondas for the past 4 decades, and 15k mi reliability is always 100%. I was considering this bike next time...and I don't think so. The components seem a bit cheap and unreliable...despite a very good motor.
Understandable. If only Honda would make proper mid size adventure bike.
@@advmatt agreed.