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Hi Ian. Another great video! You've gained another subscriber, mate. Although it does not have the 'modern tech', (display, abs, riding modes, etc) and a modern look, would you say that the DR 650 would be a similar or even superior off road machine? It's got better suspension, higher ground clearance, almost twice the torque, and is 20 lbs lighter. Yes, it has a carb and old school forks, but with a tail tidy, LED lighting, Trail tech display and maybe a SMART carb 2, I think it may very well out perform this KTM. Your thoughts? Cheers!
Sorry my friend - but you are hopefully NOT going couple touring on this bike!?! You are able to bring a passenger, but it is not nearly powerful enough to go couple touring and not nearly strong enough to carry a couple with luggage! It is probably great a single rider or for a (skinny) couple going for a ride ending up back home again after the ride, not have to carrying luggage. For it's purpose it seem to be a really amazing bike!!!
After watching dozens of reviews on the 390 Adventure, I held out until I could hear your opinion because I knew it was coming soon. Going to put my deposit in on a 2022 model tomorrow morning when my local shop opens, my first motorcycle!
I can share some direct comparison input on the Kawasaki Versys-X 300 as I have both here at the house. I'll just say now that the KTM is a better bike but here are some pros and cons of the Versys. Pros: -Better to stand up when off road. -Very light as already mentioned. Makes for an easy bike to pick up -Oil changes and chain adjustments are very easy. Oil change is literally 3 or 4 screws to expose drain plug and filter is screw on and accesable from the front. -More stable on the highway (my experience is the KTM wobbles after 75. Maybe bad suspension adjustments on my part). -Revs to 12k rpm so you can rev it out like a little sport bike for some fun. -Lays down about the same as the KTM but the one I have has the T-Rex Racing engine guard and Barkbusters. Still easy to pick up. -Wind protection is better than on the KTM. -VERY smooth engine. I think it is a 180 degree crank and I know its a parallel twin. Same engine as the Ninja 300. -Comes with a 19 in front wheel while the Versys 650 and 1000 come with 17 in front wheels. -Great as a first bike. -No traction control but then again good luck trying to spin the rear wheel. -Over 70 mpg on the back roads and about 60 to 65 mpg on the highway. -Lower compression engine so it is happy with 87 octane. Although I've noticed that when its loaded down with gear, you do get better milage with the Premium fuel. -Comes with spoked wheels. -Not under sprung. Cons -Foot pegs on mine are metal, level and have spikes but I think the Stock pegs are rubber only. This is based on looking at an OEM parts catalogue for the sake of accuracy. -LCD display with analog tachometer. -More susceptible to cross wind influence. Almost makes you feel like you're going to be lifted off the road lol. -Less suspension adjustments. None for the front and only preload on the rear. Maybe there is compression but I never messed with it. -YOU WILL NOT GO FAST LOL. It will do 80 but you're at 10k rpm without any juice left. I tried a smaller rear sprocket for the street to see if it would help and all I get is an ABS light and unable to go more than 75 up hill lol. -Low end torque doesn't exactly exist and power doesn't come on until after 7000 rpm. -Suspension travel isn't as much as the KTM -Ground clearance is just a little less than the KTM but still pretty close. -Non switchable ABS. There are models that do and do not have ABS. Also changing sprocket sizes by too much of a ratio will trigger an ABS light. -I've heard the stock seat is uncomfortable but Seat Concepts make a Seat for this bike but I count it as a con since you have to buy something better. -Spoked wheels are not tubeless. My personal conclusion is that there isn't anything that the Kawasaki does compared to the KTM that makes it stand out against it. Maybe if you like low power and an angry mosquito sound and super easy maintenance, then perhaps this would be a suitable bike. Maybe you don't need any of the extra features that the KTM has and you want to save a few dollars, then the Kawasaki is a good choice. Maybe engine reliability is your thing then maybe the Kawasaki is better. They are both good bikes and I would probably buy the Kawasaki before the 310 GS or RE Himalayan or even the CB500X if I'm doing something like a BDR since its light, cheap, and tough enough to not break. The Versys-X 300 that's outside right now has done the MABDR twice in its life and numerous other offroad routes throughout Pennsylvania. It has also been down more times than I can count and only has a bent brake lever. Not once have I had a single issue with it. I look at it like this, if you're doing mostly highway and commuting, get the CB500X. If you want something more strictly for rugged offroad I'd look at something like the 300 rally MAYBE. I didn't know the suspension bottomed out so easy. If I want a good all-rounder with good tech, I'd go with (and did go with) the KTM 390 adventure. If I wanted something I could thrash on, mostly back country roads and only stuck to mostly forest roads for offroading, or wanted a good commuter bike with great milage and didn't mind being practically limited to 80 mph, I'd go with the Kawasaki Versys-X 300. I hope you found this information useful or insightful. I think when you do finally find one to review, you'll agree on a lot of what I mentioned here. Sometimes you just have to experience it yourself to know. I like your videos and how you conduct your reviews. You do an outstanding job at covering the details that matter. As I write this, someone shared this video in the KTM 390 Adventure page on Facebook about 20 minutes before completing this comment lol. I also hope that this comment helps anyone who is considering which bike to buy between the KTM and the Kawasaki. Y'all stay safe and keep the rubber side down.
Do you still have the stock gearing on the versys? There's a swap that makes the highway a bit less busy and doesn't give up much in first gear. I can't recall what the exact tooth counts are, but it's a common swap.
@@PureCountryof91 honestly I think if they did the 400 engine and gave it some suspension adjustability it would be a significantly better bike. Maybe not when compared to the 390 but it would definitely put it up there in between the 390 and the cb500x
Thanks for the awesome reviews Ian! Yesterday I signed on the dotted line for a 2023 KTM 390 Adventure. I know this video is older but I like your reviews and trust your opinion. I did tons of research and probably watched every video on this bike. It fits me really nicely and from what I can tell, will be perfect for my style of riding. Pick it up next week!
The Long Way Down/Round/Up/Sideways series did a lot to prop up the big adventure bike market. If you have a support and logistics crew who can help you pick the bike up when the cameras off they're great. For everyone else the smaller adventure bikes are the way to go.
Great review as always! I own a 2020 390 Adventure and I LOVE it! Did 2,000 miles in the PNW next to (2) 1290 SAR’s & an 890AR going average 80 -90 mph on the HWY + 225 miles of the Colorado BDR. Few notes I would have: 1 Black Dog Cycleworks even tho pricey has amazing foot pegs which removes the 15 degree street oriented angle + a huge platform for off road. IXIL has a great aftermarket exhaust that makes it sound like a dirt bike, drops weight and is $319 USD shipped. The Rally Seat for $179 USD is SUPER comfy and for 10+ hr days made it enjoyable. 2 For $6,699 I’m blown away that you get a TFT that’d be on a $15k+ bike, adjustable suspension, MTC + ABS, crash protection included, great aftermarket parts and bluetooth connectivity! 3 If you were doing primarily hwy pavement going 90 mph then you won’t love it and it’s not made for that. 4 I’m hoping the rumored 390 Adventure Rally comes to pass … I think it’d be an amazing bike with spoked wheels + better suspension and pegs! I find it to put a smile on my face, be crazy nimble, very sporty, fun to work on, reliable and something I love having in my garage and come on … a bike for that price?! Awesome.
We have some good YTers out there, but I could live with watching just your reviews and F9s informational videos. You never disappoint with just plain honest and relatable reviews. I've been watching the 390 for a year and I think this summer I will take the plunge. Thank you for what you do!
I have a 390adv. The suspension responds well to playing with the clickers. I can set it for a plush ride with no passenger or luggage through to a well balanced ride with myself and my wife on board. Great review. Agree with most of your opinions
Since your reviews are so in-depth, it would be pretty cool to have a BRM ranking system. Sprang to mind since you gave it a B for the drop/pickup test. Alex on Autos does something similar for cars and trucks. Acceleration, braking, comfort, features, etc. Great work you're doing, thanks.
That is a proper Adventure bike. It is not a dirt bike, but can do a little bit of everything. With just a two or three low budget modifications like pegs and bar raisers you have a great allrounder.
Watch a motorbike review is always entertaining but if the bike is the bike you own it is another level 😂 110% agree. I’ve already changed the seat, footpegs, windscreen, puppy grips, and she still lack something inexplicable… probably 21” front wheel and a different engine map with 15 hp more. However , I’ve enjoyed it since day 1 a lot. Fun fun fun❤
For anyone who needs/wants leveled out pegs with big offroad cleets - black dog cycle works. They're a bit expensive, but they are well worth it. I love the ones I put on my 390, dramatic improvement over stock for offroad.
Have a 1st gen Vstrom 650 that I absolutely love touring on, but it's getting more and more apparent how heavy (especially top heavy) it is for all other applications like parking, slow maneuvers, forest road riding, even just moving it around in the garage. And it's only a 650! The 390 is at the top of my list as a lightweight upgrade and potential BDR rig with some mods. I agree with your closing statement - I hope smaller ADVs are the future!
I had a Vstrom 650 and now have a KTM 390 and it was a good trade. The bike is so much lighter in weight and also all the controls and shifter. Love it.
So from a new rider that is also tall (6'5 195lbs) the '22 390 Adv has been a great first bike. I've had the bike for just over 1 month and 1k miles riding around town, commuting to work and trips out to the twisties in the mountains. As far as gas mileage, I've been averaging ~70mpg regardless of how aggressive or light on the throttle I've been. I guess my biggest issue would be the lack of wind protection as a taller rider. That said, I don't find it to terrible at highway speeds to the point of wanting to change the wind screen.
Thanks, much appreciated. How are you getting on a few months later? Also new & tall rider here and so far the bikes I’ve ridden to get my license (z650, MT09, Tiger 900, DL650 have been fairly heavy and powerful … and somewhat intimidating.
@@kristofferrydquist8384 I've been moving along on my motorcycle journey. I recently traded in the 390 Adv (no fault of the bike) for a Triumph Tiger Sport 660. The KTM was a great first bike for me and if my plans only included riding around town with short trips up to the mountains, I would have kept it. I evaluated what type of riding I realistically was going to do and off-road wasn't going to happening. On the other hand, I was wanting to plan some longer road trips which lead to the trade. As a testament to the 390 Adv though, the dealership sold it in less than a month.
I’ve got almost 8k miles on mine and it’s been a great bike. The foot pegs are crap, definitely change those, It’s better standing and sitting by a lot. I do wish the suspension was better off-road but for the money it’s pretty good. My front brake rotor warped at about 4k miles, other than that I’ve been problem free. Does ride a passenger decently well. For long hwy trips a 16t front sprocket is the way to go.
Once again, the go to reference point for sound, comprehensive, logical reviews that steer far clear of any marketing BS and go straight to the hearth of what's really important.
I've had a 390 Adventure for just over two years and your review seems very accurate to me. I've replaced the footpegs with pivot pegs which solve the angle problem. Another modification I've made which makes a huge difference is a set of spoked wheels. KTM used to sell them as a power part but they are no longer available unfortunately. They came with a nice serrated front disc and better cush drive rubbers and were pretty good value. The bike feels much better with them, not as stiff and more comfortable and forgiving off road. Excellent review thanks.
I put a FuelX lite on mine and the low end power is much improved. The best $150 you can spend in my opinion. 20 minute job with a hook tool to access the plug. It is so much better than my KLR650 was.
Another great review. I have owned a KTM 390 Adventure for around a year now and love it. I mainly use in on road with some light off road use e.g. mainly fire roads here in Australia. It's a bike that's great in the twisties. I previously owned a Honda CB500X but prefer the KTM as it is much lighter and better off road. Thanks again, love your channel and great content.
Is honda much better (if it is at all) on longer asphalt trips considering it's bigger engine with better low torque and probably lower rpm during same speed, better culture etc?
The bike we're all waiting for is a 490 Adventure R. A bike like that cold be really close to being the Unicorn. The rumours has it that KTM had one in the works but it got canceled, but we'll see.
Great review, I just got one to replace my Versys x300. Its a huge diffrence feels much better offroad. Cant wait for them to release the 390 Adventure R hopfully with stright footpegs.
I have owned this bike (2021 model) for a year and your review is spot-on. I've owned the KLR 650 as well as a MotoGuzzi Stelvio and for the money, this machine is hard to beat. One thing not mentioned is that the bike has anti-lock brakes and traction control - things you would not expect at this price point, not to mention the TFT display. I am interested in giving mine a more guttural sound, so if there's information on that muffler cap, would appreciate it.
Ian, once again, another Home Run moto video review! Bravo! I have the '23 KTM 890 Adventure and really like it since it is so much lighter and more fun off-road than my R1200GS I recently sold. My son moved 240 miles away for his job, and took his DR650 with him, so I have been considering an additional, and still lighter, lower cost bike for me to enjoy and for him to ride when he comes home to visit. The 2022 KTM 390 Adventure seems to check a lot of boxes for me, so thank you for that info. Finally, your report of the high 'fun factor' makes my decision much easier.
One of your best videos ever. Clear, direct, immediate and informative. You solidly make a compelling case for mid-small adv bikes (and I have a 2021 Tiger 850). I would love to see a one on one with you and ADV Matt. To have your broad motorcycle testing perspective set against his in- depth, long-term ownership and modification experience with the 390 Adventure would be a solid half hour of killer chat. As you both have 1200/1250 GS time as well, the value of your comparisons and contrasting experiences could not be overstated. Thanks again for this excellent video, and for Maggie’s cameo.
I have to agree with other folks on here, your reviews are getting better and better. I have ridden and owned some of the same bikes reviewed and you seem to nail the most important areas. Currently have a Harley and a versys x300 that i bought because it was available and under priced. I cant wait for you to get one and review. It may not be as good as the ktm but I'm loving it.
Great review as always. The 390 is a great little ADV, just not enough of what I want. I had a lightened and modded DR650 that came in at about 345 wet. Loved that bike but wanted more so got a 790 Adventure R. I love it but... the upcoming 490 twin will hopefully come in at the 390's weight but with the advantages of extra power. If they make an R version of it it, it may be the perfect bike for me and get me off my 790!
The best review I’ve seen of this bike. Great comparisons. I’ve been looking at the Himalayan for a second bike but now it has competition. I hope you’re right about the small ADV bikes being the future.
Excellent review! I think you are so correct about the future of the 400cc +/- class. I've been riding a small bike every day and now my V-Strom 650 feels like a big top-heavy machine. Three guys in our group ride the KTM 390...good luck keeping up them. If you would, please do a thorough review on the Triumph 400 when you can get your hands on one.
I have a Ducati Multistrada 1200S for my road touring - it's the best bike I've ever owned - but riding it on anything but groomed dirt roads is intimidating. I ride alone more often than not and to be honest picking it up on my own is close to impossible. I bought a KTM 390 ADV for touring where I expected the bulk of the miles would be off road. Because I knew that I would be skewing this bike for off-road use I bolstered its dirt capability: 60/40 offroad/road tires, barkbusters, flat foot pegs (easy to find; also I found having a stepped footbrake plate is good for the resulting new angle when standing), single piece seat, metal skid plate (probably could have waited until I needed it), Stomp Grip for the tank, and Doubletake mirrors. For an offroad rider with limited experience like me, I find the KTM is confidence-inspiring, and it has taken me places I would have never tried before.. And when I fall over, I don't have to worry about picking it up. I really recommend this bike!
Bought mine last year, it was my first bike and i feel it was the perfect bike for me to learn to ride on. Im 6 feet tall, about 225 lbs. I love it more everytime I ride it. I am looking to buy something a bit bigger for longer rides. Im thinking either 890 adventure r or ducati desert x. The footpegs on the 390 were super annoying but that was an easy fix. My only other real complaint is the lack of low end torque, but that was probably working in my favor those first few months of riding. I might be buying a larger bike but I won't be selling the 390.
Great review! One of if not the best/most complete out there. For the 390 owners/experienced, hearing a lot of mixed comments about reliability/quality. Anything you can share on this?
Just letting everyone know that fuelling issue has been sorted. New ECU mapping for 2020-2022 models has that issue resolved and you now get Ride modes as well. The traction control now has offroad setting as well.
I have a CRF250L and test rode one of these as I thought the Honda was a bit gutless. Everything about the KTM, the fit and finish, the controls, the screen, was so much better. But I couldn't get over the frenetic high revving of the motor. In the end I didn't feel like it was really an upgrade - FOR ME. YMMV....
I am looking for my first motorcycle, and the KTM 390 is on my list. My two biggest reservations are 1) are KTM's reliable, or should I go with a Kawasaki or Honda? I am virtually useless when it comes to fixing or even doing my own maintenance on vehicles. I would bring my bike into a professional regularly. From what I read and hear, KTM's commonly have little problems, and maybe someone like me should steer clear. 2) I don't really like the demo mode model they are doing with their larger bikes, and maybe I should spend my money on a different brand. Thoughts?
Thanks very much. I had anecdotally heard that the 'suspension wasn't as good at the 790' - this was the first reviewer who put some perspective on that, that its firm and not plush for off roaders. The comments I hear make sense now because on paper the suspension is very good - WP all round- and 43mm forks ffs. I've ridden 1000cc road bikes with skinnier forks than that.
I like the backlit switches, windscreen and color display. Comparing this to the gs 310. I’m feeling the bmw more, having watched the whole thing. Lots of plusses but this kinda falls on its face in some areas I’d expect more. Feels like it wants to be more of a ninja than an adventure bike.
i am LOVING my 901 (Tractive extreme suspension on std model) and am hoping i can keep riding it for many years but i think this bike or something similar will be my next bike trading down for less weight as i get older
I own 390 adv, I ride it pretty hard off road. Rear suspension leaked after about 6 months probably due to heat. Also left fork leaked too after couple of months, probably because of dirt. Other than that, the bike is so light and nimble, so fun to ride on and off road. Highways are ok but after an hour I get really tired because of wind buffeting. I also did a 900 mile trip with girlfriend on the back seat, it's doable but not recommended, especially on highways, not fun. Slap some fork extenders, rally seat, crash bars, adv mirrors, knobbies, and 390 turns into a really really capable machine. Would totally recommend as a light budget adv bike
Nice review ian. I was able to finish a 1200 km endurance ride on this bike. Lots of value for money. Replaced it with the 850 gs. One thing to note is that the gs offers a lower seat height option compared to the 390.
I like the idea of the KTM 390. My concern is reliability. I've read too many reports of fuel pumps going out on KTM bikes which makes me nervous. It does have a lot more power then the Himalayan or Scram. Looks like a nice all roads bike with the ability for some light off-road riding.
Good video review! I like the point you make about off road riding although I disagree with the part of “the way of the future” big bikes are for crossing countries even continents, I doubt this bike could hold a year of touring behind a GS. This KTM belongs to a different sector in the ADV riding, something local and fun in my opinion. Keep it up! I did really enjoy this review, thanks for the note about the foot pegs :)
I have had my 2022 390 ad. For 2 months and I am enjoying it more and more every time I ride it. Getting the fuelx to fatten up the mixture. That should help with low end.
I have a BMW sport tourer and have been looking for a small cc bike for back road running and gravel roads. This seems like a good choice. Most of the other bikes are so down on power.
These are great engines. I have a 390 Duke. I would imagine the 390 Adventure is the best of the small adventure bikes. Good-looking, as well. Cast wheels to safe money, maybe. I prefer them. My Duke has more low-down grunt than this. It pulls well from 4,000 rpm, despite having been geared-up. The reason is it has had an airbox mod. Excellent video. My wife is Thai-Chinese. Where is Maggie from?
Thanks for another great review. I really like the seating and picking up of the bikes portion of these. I am much older than you but the same height and inseam so it is even better
Great review. I have been on the fence about witch ADV to get. The CRF300 Rally was my pick till I saw this review. I would like to see and here you ride these bikes in deep dry sand as that is common in a lot of places. Dry sand can suck up the HP and can be hard to ride in if you go slow. Many of us can only afford one bike and are looking for the best light weight all around ADV. I am impressed with the KTM's road capability's. I am now rethinking my options as I can only afford one bike. My last bike was a KLX 250 duel sport and I had some likes and dis likes about it. The KLX 250 was just a bit under powered for my taste and was not as road worthy as I would have liked. But it was pretty good off road. I have to ride 70+ miles to get to any good trail's in my area, and I like to tour back tarmac roads and small towns as well as trail's.
Great review as usual. Thank you. For this size bike, I don’t see a big enough advantage over my DRZ to replace it. My DRZ is incredibly reliable, compared to the questionable KTM reliability.
@@murlyn2 eh.. once you get to a certain point, a single cylinder has diminishing returns. And I think that's part of why we have 400 twins now. And that in a light dirt bike chassis would be awesome
Thank you for including your wife on the review. If possible please do more of that. I'd appreciate it alot if we can get feedback from the pillion. Cheers!
I usually like and agree with your reviews but I didn't hear you address KTM's reliability. In the past they have not been very good. Its part of the reason I have not been able to bring myself to buy another one.
My father has been dispatching for that area of highway for the CHP for 30 years and he says now days officers won't bother pulling you over unless you're going 90+ and on bad days with a lot of speeding they have enough people driving over 100 to keep them busy.
I would be all over this bike but, more ride modes, traction control, and ABS. Although, it looks like its a lot less invasive with tech than Africa Twin or Transalp. You cant even climb a hill or cross a stream with the Hondas without traction control stopping you in your tracks.
I checked out the new 2023 390 KTM Adventure bike at my local dealership. Great looking bike with all the features l like but unfortunately the size doesn’t work for me as the seat is far too high off the ground. I’m 165 cm in height with a 76.2 cm inseam. I really wish KTM had made the seat lower on this bike and less wide to accommodate shorter riders who want to get into adventure riding. Being able to place one’s feet on the ground is important for both general use and adventuring riding. KTM had designed a very versatile bike but unfortunately this bike won’t work for smaller riders and even first time motorcycle riders. I’ll really hope KTM will consider making the seat on this bike lower in the near future.
Another awesome, objective, factual, concise and succinct review Ian, thanks. So, would you take it on the BDR or the GCDR if you say, changed out the footpegs for Pivotpegs or similar? Would letting a bit of pressure out of the tyres help with the bounciness?
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Hi Ian. Another great video! You've gained another subscriber, mate.
Although it does not have the 'modern tech', (display, abs, riding modes, etc) and a modern look, would you say that the DR 650 would be a similar or even superior off road machine? It's got better suspension, higher ground clearance, almost twice the torque, and is 20 lbs lighter. Yes, it has a carb and old school forks, but with a tail tidy, LED lighting, Trail tech display and maybe a SMART carb 2, I think it may very well out perform this KTM. Your thoughts?
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showing a passenger is amazing. Most reviewers dont do it. Pretty important for couple touring
yes that's a plus .. thanks Ian
Yes, please all bike reviewers show bike with passenger.
Sorry my friend - but you are hopefully NOT going couple touring on this bike!?!
You are able to bring a passenger, but it is not nearly powerful enough to go couple touring and not nearly strong enough to carry a couple with luggage!
It is probably great a single rider or for a (skinny) couple going for a ride ending up back home again after the ride, not have to carrying luggage.
For it's purpose it seem to be a really amazing bike!!!
On a 43 hp high Revving single with no low end…..not a good idea to have a passenger..
Ridenrolljulianne also does a pillion bit
After watching dozens of reviews on the 390 Adventure, I held out until I could hear your opinion because I knew it was coming soon. Going to put my deposit in on a 2022 model tomorrow morning when my local shop opens, my first motorcycle!
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Where did u buy? I can't see where I can. I live in belize😫
I can share some direct comparison input on the Kawasaki Versys-X 300 as I have both here at the house. I'll just say now that the KTM is a better bike but here are some pros and cons of the Versys.
Pros:
-Better to stand up when off road.
-Very light as already mentioned. Makes for an easy bike to pick up
-Oil changes and chain adjustments are very easy. Oil change is literally 3 or 4 screws to expose drain plug and filter is screw on and accesable from the front.
-More stable on the highway (my experience is the KTM wobbles after 75. Maybe bad suspension adjustments on my part).
-Revs to 12k rpm so you can rev it out like a little sport bike for some fun.
-Lays down about the same as the KTM but the one I have has the T-Rex Racing engine guard and Barkbusters. Still easy to pick up.
-Wind protection is better than on the KTM.
-VERY smooth engine. I think it is a 180 degree crank and I know its a parallel twin. Same engine as the Ninja 300.
-Comes with a 19 in front wheel while the Versys 650 and 1000 come with 17 in front wheels.
-Great as a first bike.
-No traction control but then again good luck trying to spin the rear wheel.
-Over 70 mpg on the back roads and about 60 to 65 mpg on the highway.
-Lower compression engine so it is happy with 87 octane. Although I've noticed that when its loaded down with gear, you do get better milage with the Premium fuel.
-Comes with spoked wheels.
-Not under sprung.
Cons
-Foot pegs on mine are metal, level and have spikes but I think the Stock pegs are rubber only. This is based on looking at an OEM parts catalogue for the sake of accuracy.
-LCD display with analog tachometer.
-More susceptible to cross wind influence. Almost makes you feel like you're going to be lifted off the road lol.
-Less suspension adjustments. None for the front and only preload on the rear. Maybe there is compression but I never messed with it.
-YOU WILL NOT GO FAST LOL. It will do 80 but you're at 10k rpm without any juice left. I tried a smaller rear sprocket for the street to see if it would help and all I get is an ABS light and unable to go more than 75 up hill lol.
-Low end torque doesn't exactly exist and power doesn't come on until after 7000 rpm.
-Suspension travel isn't as much as the KTM
-Ground clearance is just a little less than the KTM but still pretty close.
-Non switchable ABS. There are models that do and do not have ABS. Also changing sprocket sizes by too much of a ratio will trigger an ABS light.
-I've heard the stock seat is uncomfortable but Seat Concepts make a Seat for this bike but I count it as a con since you have to buy something better.
-Spoked wheels are not tubeless.
My personal conclusion is that there isn't anything that the Kawasaki does compared to the KTM that makes it stand out against it. Maybe if you like low power and an angry mosquito sound and super easy maintenance, then perhaps this would be a suitable bike. Maybe you don't need any of the extra features that the KTM has and you want to save a few dollars, then the Kawasaki is a good choice. Maybe engine reliability is your thing then maybe the Kawasaki is better. They are both good bikes and I would probably buy the Kawasaki before the 310 GS or RE Himalayan or even the CB500X if I'm doing something like a BDR since its light, cheap, and tough enough to not break. The Versys-X 300 that's outside right now has done the MABDR twice in its life and numerous other offroad routes throughout Pennsylvania. It has also been down more times than I can count and only has a bent brake lever. Not once have I had a single issue with it. I look at it like this, if you're doing mostly highway and commuting, get the CB500X. If you want something more strictly for rugged offroad I'd look at something like the 300 rally MAYBE. I didn't know the suspension bottomed out so easy. If I want a good all-rounder with good tech, I'd go with (and did go with) the KTM 390 adventure. If I wanted something I could thrash on, mostly back country roads and only stuck to mostly forest roads for offroading, or wanted a good commuter bike with great milage and didn't mind being practically limited to 80 mph, I'd go with the Kawasaki Versys-X 300.
I hope you found this information useful or insightful. I think when you do finally find one to review, you'll agree on a lot of what I mentioned here. Sometimes you just have to experience it yourself to know. I like your videos and how you conduct your reviews. You do an outstanding job at covering the details that matter. As I write this, someone shared this video in the KTM 390 Adventure page on Facebook about 20 minutes before completing this comment lol. I also hope that this comment helps anyone who is considering which bike to buy between the KTM and the Kawasaki. Y'all stay safe and keep the rubber side down.
Thanks for this amazing info
Awesome info. Thanks!
Do you still have the stock gearing on the versys? There's a swap that makes the highway a bit less busy and doesn't give up much in first gear. I can't recall what the exact tooth counts are, but it's a common swap.
I was hoping Kawasaki would build the versys x400.. here's hoping
@@PureCountryof91 honestly I think if they did the 400 engine and gave it some suspension adjustability it would be a significantly better bike. Maybe not when compared to the 390 but it would definitely put it up there in between the 390 and the cb500x
So glad you added freeway riding to your reviews. I can now say this is the best review channel on the web.
Thanks for the awesome reviews Ian! Yesterday I signed on the dotted line for a 2023 KTM 390 Adventure. I know this video is older but I like your reviews and trust your opinion. I did tons of research and probably watched every video on this bike. It fits me really nicely and from what I can tell, will be perfect for my style of riding. Pick it up next week!
The Long Way Down/Round/Up/Sideways series did a lot to prop up the big adventure bike market. If you have a support and logistics crew who can help you pick the bike up when the cameras off they're great. For everyone else the smaller adventure bikes are the way to go.
100%
Lightweight bikes are key offroad but most people’s ego will dictate they buy something much more powerful.
Ego or dick size…
My ego told me I’d be riding for 10 hours day on the highway for two weeks every summer so I bought a big bike
My ego told me that a 701 enduro is lighter, more capable off road, and better for packing my fat ass on the freeway.
Great review as always!
I own a 2020 390 Adventure and I LOVE it! Did 2,000 miles in the PNW next to (2) 1290 SAR’s & an 890AR going average 80 -90 mph on the HWY + 225 miles of the Colorado BDR. Few notes I would have:
1 Black Dog Cycleworks even tho pricey has amazing foot pegs which removes the 15 degree street oriented angle + a huge platform for off road. IXIL has a great aftermarket exhaust that makes it sound like a dirt bike, drops weight and is $319 USD shipped. The Rally Seat for $179 USD is SUPER comfy and for 10+ hr days made it enjoyable.
2 For $6,699 I’m blown away that you get a TFT that’d be on a $15k+ bike, adjustable suspension, MTC + ABS, crash protection included, great aftermarket parts and bluetooth connectivity!
3 If you were doing primarily hwy pavement going 90 mph then you won’t love it and it’s not made for that.
4 I’m hoping the rumored 390 Adventure Rally comes to pass … I think it’d be an amazing bike with spoked wheels + better suspension and pegs!
I find it to put a smile on my face, be crazy nimble, very sporty, fun to work on, reliable and something I love having in my garage and come on … a bike for that price?! Awesome.
We have some good YTers out there, but I could live with watching just your reviews and F9s informational videos. You never disappoint with just plain honest and relatable reviews. I've been watching the 390 for a year and I think this summer I will take the plunge. Thank you for what you do!
Great to see Maggie.. Thanks for bringing her into the show.
Especially her smile!
I don’t know how many times I’ve watched this video. Ended up getting a 390 yesterday. Thank you for helping in that decision.
I have a 390adv. The suspension responds well to playing with the clickers. I can set it for a plush ride with no passenger or luggage through to a well balanced ride with myself and my wife on board. Great review. Agree with most of your opinions
Since your reviews are so in-depth, it would be pretty cool to have a BRM ranking system. Sprang to mind since you gave it a B for the drop/pickup test.
Alex on Autos does something similar for cars and trucks. Acceleration, braking, comfort, features, etc.
Great work you're doing, thanks.
That is a proper Adventure bike. It is not a dirt bike, but can do a little bit of everything. With just a two or three low budget modifications like pegs and bar raisers you have a great allrounder.
Watch a motorbike review is always entertaining but if the bike is the bike you own it is another level 😂
110% agree. I’ve already changed the seat, footpegs, windscreen, puppy grips, and she still lack something inexplicable… probably 21” front wheel and a different engine map with 15 hp more. However , I’ve enjoyed it since day 1 a lot. Fun fun fun❤
For anyone who needs/wants leveled out pegs with big offroad cleets - black dog cycle works. They're a bit expensive, but they are well worth it. I love the ones I put on my 390, dramatic improvement over stock for offroad.
European made Bosley Pegs are great budget choice and a solid reputation in pegs engineering.
Have a 1st gen Vstrom 650 that I absolutely love touring on, but it's getting more and more apparent how heavy (especially top heavy) it is for all other applications like parking, slow maneuvers, forest road riding, even just moving it around in the garage. And it's only a 650! The 390 is at the top of my list as a lightweight upgrade and potential BDR rig with some mods. I agree with your closing statement - I hope smaller ADVs are the future!
I had a Vstrom 650 and now have a KTM 390 and it was a good trade. The bike is so much lighter in weight and also all the controls and shifter. Love it.
So from a new rider that is also tall (6'5 195lbs) the '22 390 Adv has been a great first bike. I've had the bike for just over 1 month and 1k miles riding around town, commuting to work and trips out to the twisties in the mountains. As far as gas mileage, I've been averaging ~70mpg regardless of how aggressive or light on the throttle I've been.
I guess my biggest issue would be the lack of wind protection as a taller rider. That said, I don't find it to terrible at highway speeds to the point of wanting to change the wind screen.
Thanks, much appreciated. How are you getting on a few months later? Also new & tall rider here and so far the bikes I’ve ridden to get my license (z650, MT09, Tiger 900, DL650 have been fairly heavy and powerful … and somewhat intimidating.
@@kristofferrydquist8384 I've been moving along on my motorcycle journey. I recently traded in the 390 Adv (no fault of the bike) for a Triumph Tiger Sport 660. The KTM was a great first bike for me and if my plans only included riding around town with short trips up to the mountains, I would have kept it. I evaluated what type of riding I realistically was going to do and off-road wasn't going to happening. On the other hand, I was wanting to plan some longer road trips which lead to the trade.
As a testament to the 390 Adv though, the dealership sold it in less than a month.
I’ve got almost 8k miles on mine and it’s been a great bike. The foot pegs are crap, definitely change those, It’s better standing and sitting by a lot. I do wish the suspension was better off-road but for the money it’s pretty good. My front brake rotor warped at about 4k miles, other than that I’ve been problem free.
Does ride a passenger decently well.
For long hwy trips a 16t front sprocket is the way to go.
Once again, the go to reference point for sound, comprehensive, logical reviews that steer far clear of any marketing BS and go straight to the hearth of what's really important.
I've had a 390 Adventure for just over two years and your review seems very accurate to me. I've replaced the footpegs with pivot pegs which solve the angle problem. Another modification I've made which makes a huge difference is a set of spoked wheels. KTM used to sell them as a power part but they are no longer available unfortunately. They came with a nice serrated front disc and better cush drive rubbers and were pretty good value. The bike feels much better with them, not as stiff and more comfortable and forgiving off road. Excellent review thanks.
3:26 😆
All the info is great. But this moment is why I come here. What a legend.
I put a FuelX lite on mine and the low end power is much improved. The best $150 you can spend in my opinion. 20 minute job with a hook tool to access the plug. It is so much better than my KLR650 was.
I wish you could have added the 790 adventure into the mix. It's the lightest of all these bikes at 189kg dry.
Another great review. I have owned a KTM 390 Adventure for around a year now and love it. I mainly use in on road with some light off road use e.g. mainly fire roads here in Australia. It's a bike that's great in the twisties. I previously owned a Honda CB500X but prefer the KTM as it is much lighter and better off road. Thanks again, love your channel and great content.
Is honda much better (if it is at all) on longer asphalt trips considering it's bigger engine with better low torque and probably lower rpm during same speed, better culture etc?
The bike we're all waiting for is a 490 Adventure R. A bike like that cold be really close to being the Unicorn. The rumours has it that KTM had one in the works but it got canceled, but we'll see.
Looks like itll be a GasGas 400 Adventure first before maybe moving to a 490.
Either that or bore up/ turbo kit for this engine!
The 390r adventure is out next year, there's spy photos online. I know its not a 490 but this might be the closest yet.
@@kens5871 turbos on single cylinders are a joke.
I know they were working on a smaller parallel twin..
Great review, I just got one to replace my Versys x300. Its a huge diffrence feels much better offroad.
Cant wait for them to release the 390 Adventure R hopfully with stright footpegs.
I have owned this bike (2021 model) for a year and your review is spot-on. I've owned the KLR 650 as well as a MotoGuzzi Stelvio and for the money, this machine is hard to beat. One thing not mentioned is that the bike has anti-lock brakes and traction control - things you would not expect at this price point, not to mention the TFT display. I am interested in giving mine a more guttural sound, so if there's information on that muffler cap, would appreciate it.
There are a number of slip ons you can put on that makes it sound ok
The pegs are for uphill only, bhahahah. Great video Ian, keep up the great work.✊️👊✊️👊
Ian, once again, another Home Run moto video review! Bravo! I have the '23 KTM 890 Adventure and really like it since it is so much lighter and more fun off-road than my R1200GS I recently sold. My son moved 240 miles away for his job, and took his DR650 with him, so I have been considering an additional, and still lighter, lower cost bike for me to enjoy and for him to ride when he comes home to visit. The 2022 KTM 390 Adventure seems to check a lot of boxes for me, so thank you for that info. Finally, your report of the high 'fun factor' makes my decision much easier.
Oh man... it feels like you made this video just for me! Thanks!
One of your best videos ever. Clear, direct, immediate and informative. You solidly make a compelling case for mid-small adv bikes (and I have a 2021 Tiger 850).
I would love to see a one on one with you and ADV Matt. To have your broad motorcycle testing perspective set against his in- depth, long-term ownership and modification experience with the 390 Adventure would be a solid half hour of killer chat. As you both have 1200/1250 GS time as well, the value of your comparisons and contrasting experiences could not be overstated.
Thanks again for this excellent video, and for Maggie’s cameo.
I have to agree with other folks on here, your reviews are getting better and better. I have ridden and owned some of the same bikes reviewed and you seem to nail the most important areas. Currently have a Harley and a versys x300 that i bought because it was available and under priced. I cant wait for you to get one and review. It may not be as good as the ktm but I'm loving it.
Great review as always. The 390 is a great little ADV, just not enough of what I want. I had a lightened and modded DR650 that came in at about 345 wet. Loved that bike but wanted more so got a 790 Adventure R. I love it but... the upcoming 490 twin will hopefully come in at the 390's weight but with the advantages of extra power. If they make an R version of it it, it may be the perfect bike for me and get me off my 790!
They should have made it 590 instead, to go up just 100ccm is lame.
1st comment Sixth view… love your work… please make a review on Moto Morini Xcape 650
I average 80 to 85 miles to the gallon with mine I don't know how you guys are driving yours this bike sips fuel
Big thanks for using metrics and kg, this makes your vids so cool to watch for everyone. Hi from Cambodia! Chris from Mototom.
Such a great review. I had a 390 Duke, and sold it during a move. I think I've found my next bike. Brilliant review...well done!
The best review I’ve seen of this bike. Great comparisons. I’ve been looking at the Himalayan for a second bike but now it has competition. I hope you’re right about the small ADV bikes being the future.
Superb review
This is one of the best reviews I’ve seen of this bike
Excellent review! I think you are so correct about the future of the 400cc +/- class. I've been riding a small bike every day and now my V-Strom 650 feels like a big top-heavy machine. Three guys in our group ride the KTM 390...good luck keeping up them. If you would, please do a thorough review on the Triumph 400 when you can get your hands on one.
I have a Ducati Multistrada 1200S for my road touring - it's the best bike I've ever owned - but riding it on anything but groomed dirt roads is intimidating. I ride alone more often than not and to be honest picking it up on my own is close to impossible. I bought a KTM 390 ADV for touring where I expected the bulk of the miles would be off road. Because I knew that I would be skewing this bike for off-road use I bolstered its dirt capability: 60/40 offroad/road tires, barkbusters, flat foot pegs (easy to find; also I found having a stepped footbrake plate is good for the resulting new angle when standing), single piece seat, metal skid plate (probably could have waited until I needed it), Stomp Grip for the tank, and Doubletake mirrors. For an offroad rider with limited experience like me, I find the KTM is confidence-inspiring, and it has taken me places I would have never tried before.. And when I fall over, I don't have to worry about picking it up. I really recommend this bike!
Bought mine last year, it was my first bike and i feel it was the perfect bike for me to learn to ride on. Im 6 feet tall, about 225 lbs. I love it more everytime I ride it. I am looking to buy something a bit bigger for longer rides. Im thinking either 890 adventure r or ducati desert x. The footpegs on the 390 were super annoying but that was an easy fix. My only other real complaint is the lack of low end torque, but that was probably working in my favor those first few months of riding. I might be buying a larger bike but I won't be selling the 390.
Great review! One of if not the best/most complete out there. For the 390 owners/experienced, hearing a lot of mixed comments about reliability/quality. Anything you can share on this?
Just letting everyone know that fuelling issue has been sorted. New ECU mapping for 2020-2022 models has that issue resolved and you now get Ride modes as well. The traction control now has offroad setting as well.
Is it just an update that you can bring it to the dealer and get?
What does this bike get for gas mileage if you ride it around 60-65 on the highway?
I have a CRF250L and test rode one of these as I thought the Honda was a bit gutless. Everything about the KTM, the fit and finish, the controls, the screen, was so much better. But I couldn't get over the frenetic high revving of the motor. In the end I didn't feel like it was really an upgrade - FOR ME. YMMV....
Thank you so much for the video. The way you explain, and judge things is very mature and appreciated.
You're reviews are so thorough and I appreciate it.
I am looking for my first motorcycle, and the KTM 390 is on my list. My two biggest reservations are 1) are KTM's reliable, or should I go with a Kawasaki or Honda? I am virtually useless when it comes to fixing or even doing my own maintenance on vehicles. I would bring my bike into a professional regularly. From what I read and hear, KTM's commonly have little problems, and maybe someone like me should steer clear. 2) I don't really like the demo mode model they are doing with their larger bikes, and maybe I should spend my money on a different brand. Thoughts?
I really enjoy your video !! the KTM is amazing, moreover, the view from your house is amazing congrats for it!!
At the 3:26 mark --- love your expression! Hilarious! "Put your feet on the foot pegs"!
Arguably the best review out there on this bike. A+ as usual
Thanks very much. I had anecdotally heard that the 'suspension wasn't as good at the 790' - this was the first reviewer who put some perspective on that, that its firm and not plush for off roaders. The comments I hear make sense now because on paper the suspension is very good - WP all round- and 43mm forks ffs. I've ridden 1000cc road bikes with skinnier forks than that.
This is gonna be my first bike. its aprox 8600usd in Norway where i live. but its by far the best bike for me
Really professional and informative, thx.
as a lady, i never minded people asking my weight / age ! great review 🙌🏻
Looking at bikes recently and really been loving all your content! Thanks for putting in all this work, it really helps
Glad you like them!
Love your reviews. i ride the idyllwild off road alot. i didnt recognize the trail you were on this time. any chance of letting me know where it is?
I don't bother watching any other bike channels for reviews now - just come to you
I like the backlit switches, windscreen and color display. Comparing this to the gs 310. I’m feeling the bmw more, having watched the whole thing. Lots of plusses but this kinda falls on its face in some areas I’d expect more. Feels like it wants to be more of a ninja than an adventure bike.
i am LOVING my 901 (Tractive extreme suspension on std model) and am hoping i can keep riding it for many years but i think this bike or something similar will be my next bike trading down for less weight as i get older
I own 390 adv, I ride it pretty hard off road. Rear suspension leaked after about 6 months probably due to heat. Also left fork leaked too after couple of months, probably because of dirt. Other than that, the bike is so light and nimble, so fun to ride on and off road. Highways are ok but after an hour I get really tired because of wind buffeting. I also did a 900 mile trip with girlfriend on the back seat, it's doable but not recommended, especially on highways, not fun. Slap some fork extenders, rally seat, crash bars, adv mirrors, knobbies, and 390 turns into a really really capable machine. Would totally recommend as a light budget adv bike
Nice review ian. I was able to finish a 1200 km endurance ride on this bike. Lots of value for money. Replaced it with the 850 gs. One thing to note is that the gs offers a lower seat height option compared to the 390.
I like the idea of the KTM 390. My concern is reliability. I've read too many reports of fuel pumps going out on KTM bikes which makes me nervous. It does have a lot more power then the Himalayan or Scram. Looks like a nice all roads bike with the ability for some light off-road riding.
The only problem I’ve had with mine in almost 8k miles is the front rotor warped
@@shortbusdog I wonder what caused that. Were you doing lots of heavy braking or something?
@@clonkex don’t know. Maybe just not the best quality. Replaced it with the full floating option and have been happy with that.
Great review. Everything you could want in a motorcycle review, including an honest opinion!
Good video review! I like the point you make about off road riding although I disagree with the part of “the way of the future” big bikes are for crossing countries even continents, I doubt this bike could hold a year of touring behind a GS. This KTM belongs to a different sector in the ADV riding, something local and fun in my opinion.
Keep it up! I did really enjoy this review, thanks for the note about the foot pegs :)
I have had my 2022 390 ad.
For 2 months and I am enjoying it more and more every time I ride it.
Getting the fuelx to fatten up the mixture. That should help with low end.
I still cant decide between the 500x and the 390. I wish i could test ride them both back to back.
I have a BMW sport tourer and have been looking for a small cc bike for back road running and gravel roads. This seems like a good choice. Most of the other bikes are so down on power.
This was a very nicely done video Ian. Thumbs up!
Glad you enjoyed it
These are great engines. I have a 390 Duke. I would imagine the 390 Adventure is the best of the small adventure bikes. Good-looking, as well. Cast wheels to safe money, maybe. I prefer them. My Duke has more low-down grunt than this. It pulls well from 4,000 rpm, despite having been geared-up. The reason is it has had an airbox mod.
Excellent video.
My wife is Thai-Chinese. Where is Maggie from?
One of the comprehensive reviews........ Good Work....👍
I love your reviews - thank you. Plus, you just convinced me that I need one of these 🙂
Thanks for another great review. I really like the seating and picking up of the bikes portion of these. I am much older than you but the same height and inseam so it is even better
The angled foot rest is to support for normal riding and quick shifting
Great review. I have been on the fence about witch ADV to get. The CRF300 Rally was my pick till I saw this review. I would like to see and here you ride these bikes in deep dry sand as that is common in a lot of places. Dry sand can suck up the HP and can be hard to ride in if you go slow.
Many of us can only afford one bike and are looking for the best light weight all around ADV. I am impressed with the KTM's road capability's. I am now rethinking my options as I can only afford one bike. My last bike was a KLX 250 duel sport and I had some likes and dis likes about it. The KLX 250 was just a bit under powered for my taste and was not as road worthy as I would have liked. But it was pretty good off road. I have to ride 70+ miles to get to any good trail's in my area, and I like to tour back tarmac roads and small towns as well as trail's.
GREAT review and truth ABOUT the wonderful machine ❤
Great review as usual. Thank you. For this size bike, I don’t see a big enough advantage over my DRZ to replace it. My DRZ is incredibly reliable, compared to the questionable KTM reliability.
If Suzuki would update it with a few things especially a 6sp it would be a literal unicorn
@@PureCountryof91 never has a truer motorcycle statement been made! But maybe just a splash more power too, factory 470 bore?
@@murlyn2 eh.. once you get to a certain point, a single cylinder has diminishing returns. And I think that's part of why we have 400 twins now. And that in a light dirt bike chassis would be awesome
keep up the great content. Best avd mc channel out there :D
Thanks, Great review you have rekindled my interest in these - haven't seen any here Ireland. RyanF9 did a Good review a while back too.
great review..many thanks!!👍
Thank you for including your wife on the review. If possible please do more of that. I'd appreciate it alot if we can get feedback from the pillion. Cheers!
Love your detailed content! you are not good but excellent at what you do! Keep up the good work! Cheers
BTW there is a 490 DUKE and Adventure on the way! great review though thanks a lot for the effort you put into these.
I want a KTM outfitted like this with the 690 motor, where is that?
3:27…I understand that look my friend. Married 15yrs myself. Great review(s). Very through 👍🏻 plus I’m 5’11” so if it fits you it’s gonna fit me
Great to see your video ! Please compare the CRF300 Rally and KTM390 adventure !
Thanks for the great review Ian!
I usually like and agree with your reviews but I didn't hear you address KTM's reliability. In the past they have not been very good. Its part of the reason I have not been able to bring myself to buy another one.
This is a great looking bike Ian, great review. Very suprised it has incandescent turn signals, but the rest of the bike is great.
I dont say this much but ...Great review - really informative
Would be cool if KTM came out with an "R" version featuring state-of-the art suspension and higher ground clearance.
My father has been dispatching for that area of highway for the CHP for 30 years and he says now days officers won't bother pulling you over unless you're going 90+ and on bad days with a lot of speeding they have enough people driving over 100 to keep them busy.
I would be all over this bike but, more ride modes, traction control, and ABS. Although, it looks like its a lot less invasive with tech than Africa Twin or Transalp. You cant even climb a hill or cross a stream with the Hondas without traction control stopping you in your tracks.
I checked out the new 2023 390 KTM Adventure bike at my local dealership. Great looking bike with all the features l like but unfortunately the size doesn’t work for me as the seat is far too high off the ground.
I’m 165 cm in height with a 76.2 cm inseam. I really wish KTM had made the seat lower on this bike and less wide to accommodate shorter riders who want to get into adventure riding.
Being able to place one’s feet on the ground is important for both general use and adventuring riding. KTM had designed a very versatile bike but unfortunately this bike won’t work for smaller riders and even first time motorcycle riders.
I’ll really hope KTM will consider making the seat on this bike lower in the near future.
Another awesome, objective, factual, concise and succinct review Ian, thanks. So, would you take it on the BDR or the GCDR if you say, changed out the footpegs for Pivotpegs or similar? Would letting a bit of pressure out of the tyres help with the bounciness?
I put on the Black Dog pegs. Totally changed the bike. I'm 6'1", made it much more comfortable sitting and standing possible.
He probably just needs to dial down the rebound lol. The suspension is adjustable.
@@jcschoen69 and probably cheaper than Pivotpegs Jason. Those things aint cheap!
@@gregbenage5864 true lol. Once you have some gear on it and the suspension dialled in it might be a nice ride
as a person drove all the worst way in Tibat. yes, you are right. I prefer a small ADV to BMW 1250
Seems like if we’re comparing sub 400lb ADV bikes we should also include the DR650.