Good info. I'm interested though, the knot I learned as the GT is the fig 8 with a 6 wrap uni on the other side. It's a low profile knot that has been 100% secure to date for me... Now, I don't suggest my small test results prove anything, but scrolling through the comments, I saw several people saying the same and liking that knot a lot. Thoughts?
I just did a test and the figure 8 (which was mono in my test) slipped loose from the braid uni knot. Just tie you up the knot, and then use some pliers (one on each end) and pull until something breaks. You don't want the line to break at the knot. I have still yet to find the perfect braid to other line knot that isn't super complicated or hard to tie.
I have been using the GT knot for years. It works fine good knot strength. I never had the opportunity to test the breaking point. I improved the tying by using the leader to go 9 times through the doubled loop of the main line, and then I tie a figure 8 with the tag end of the leader around and through the main line loop, just like the same way as the correct video #7 shows threading the double loop through the figure 8. My routine line sizes are 15- 20 lb main line, and 25-30 lb leader. I do find it works better with mono than fluorocarbon. When I use fluorocarbon leader for a GT knot, I usually try to heat the tag end of the leader line to make it a little thicker after cutting off the tag end, to prevent it from slipping through the figure 8 knot. When in the scenario of using 40 lb or above leader line, I would use FG knot, as it is difficult to make a snugly figure 8 knot with line thicker than 40 lbs.
Luke, thanks for getting into this GT Knot thing, I've seen these knots illustrated, tried them in my garage/workshop and they pull right out like you said or break quickly, still using the FG and it never fails, line breaks first, double uni is my second go to knot and it works good to but FG by far is the best...Tight Lines.
Strong Salt'ers, can you please answer this question for me.....why does the double uni knot keep breaking? When I tie these two knots (at least braid to braid), it will break at one of the knots most of the time. Its almost like under deep stress, one of the knots is cinching down on the other line to where it "saws" through it as it gets tighter and tighter. I've seen others mention this same problem on various forums (just a few people) but with no real solution to it. What gives? I know I'm tying the uni knot right. Maybe it could be certain braids? I've had this problem with suffix 832 line if that matters, which is like 8 strands I think.
At what tension load does this issue take place? All knots will fail once enough tension is applied, so you very well just be putting the max load of tension on it.
Hi. Question:your videos have made it possible for me to tie the FG knot. Thank you. Is the FG knot the right knot for lighter braid to fluorocarbon? Say 15# braid to 8# flouro. Thanks again!
Tried the FG and it came apart at the wrong times. Been using the GT for over 5 years. It works great for 5 lb smallmouth. Easy to tie and goes on the spool easy and through the guides all day long and half the next day. No problems at all and quick to tie.
Why all the videos on strength comparison of the FG vs GT vs other braid to mono. The result differences seem minor. My question would be which knot can compete with the FG on casting smoothly through the guides?
I used a GT last year tying 10lb leader to either 15, 20, or 25 lb braid and had literally zero issues. I fish 225-250 days a year. I dont fish saltwater but I had way less breaking issues than I did tying pretty well any other line to line knot.
On that rating sheet how can the bimini twist be ranked depending on number of twists at 60-80% if it's part of the official gt knot. Does that not mean weakest link is that? Further the bimini has been tested countless times as being in the 90s% how is it now so low?
OK so Im not using the actual GT knot. I learned the version where it's a figure 8 knot and a uni knot on the other end. It has never failed me lol. Whenever I get snagged, my hook with a trilene knot breaks off everytime and I get to save like 5ft of leader. Idk wat the knot I'm using is actually called tho. I've been thinking it was the gt. If u know please do share bc it is so good.
This knot was described and illustrated a few years ago in one of the leading Australian angling magazines. It is called Kaneit Knot. I actually liked it a lot to start with however had a mixed success, so stopped using it. I am fishing for bream and using thin diameter fluoro leaders: 3, 4, 5, 6, 8 and 10lb. I am yet to find the optimal knot for this type of thin lines.
@@alexfranchuk9608 So that's what it's called. Thank you! I use 6lb yozuri hybrid and have no issues with the knot. My leader either breaks off at the hook or somewhere in between. Yozuri hybrid 6lb's actual lb test is like 12lbs tho. It has a greater diameter compared to other 6lb line which doesn't make sense. Maybe a marketing thing by yozuri.
This is how I've tied it! It's been $$$$ but I'm open minded and will listen to all opinions before settling. I am fishing some heavy lines and some lighter, so it may require two different knots.
This whole time I thought I was using the GT knot. As many said, figure 8 on fluorocarbon and uni knot on the braided line 6-8 wraps. The only difference I make is 2 half clinch knots on the braided line after the uni knot. I fish SoCal and Catalina waters. I've caught barracuda, bonito and yellowtail. I'll update if it ever fails me. So it's been good. 17lb to 30 lb fluorocarbon with 20 lb to 80 lb braid.
The GT knot is a great knot when tied correctly looks like most people unfortunately don’t know how to tie it. I’ve been using it for about 15years now. Don’t worry I also love the FG knot as well I use FG for casting and GT knot for jigging. The GT knot lasts much longer before it starts to look shabby and needs re doing. And the natural taper of the knot is much better coming back through the guides if under tension from a fish. FG knot fouls up more coming back in through the guides. When tied correctly your line will always break at the start of the bimini twist never at the GT knot. And in regards to it pulling through well I don’t see how that is possible when your using a double/loop in your mainline. it has to snap to pull through when tied correctly.
Thanks for keeping us informed with good accurate information. I'm watching this video a year after you made it bt it's still good info to find. Thanks again and take care.
Sorry to see that you lost some fish due to the GT knot being weaker than advertised. I recommend testing knots out on the lines you're using before making any official changes to make sure they work well for the specific lines you're using (that includes before making a change based on any of our recommendations too if you're using different lines than we are).
Thank you man. I've looked at those GT Knot instructional videos you referenced and the knot looked like garbage. I hope people find your video and avoid the GT Imposter Knot.
The FG is amazing! The Rizzuto finish is optional... doesn't add to the knot's strength, but it can give some added peace of mind that the FG coils will stay in place. I personally haven't run into any issues with the more basic and quicker to tie half hitches, so I stick with them in place of the rizzuto.
Have used a GT not in recent years. FG knot just too hard to tie in fishing conditions. Line 4lb braid, 4lb and 6lb fluorocarbon lead. Figure 8 leader, single strand braid uni knot. Has never let me down. Including landing a 30lb mulloway after 1 hour under constant pressure.
I found out about the knot the hard way. Lost a good Tarpon that day. Looked into it and figured out that it wasn't a real GT knot. I went back to using a double uni ever since with zero problems.
I have been using this knot for over a year, and have not had a break or have i had this knot slip. Very interesting. I do like the slimmer profile of the FG but i'm not fixing something that isn't broke. Maybe people are just tying it wrong who knows . Just my .02
Based on how poorly the "GT knot" did in testing, you're better off going with the double uni knot if you want to save time. The FG knot only take about 30 seconds longer to tie after some practice, and that small amount of time is well worth the 20%+ added strength and the much slimmer knot.
@@Saltstrong I'm going to start tying that FG per your pinkie method, It's always good to have multiple knots in your arsenal. My only thing is fishing out of a kayak, and trying to tie that knot will pose a challenge, on the other hand i haven't had to re-tie or re-do a GT. Thanks for the insight. Tight Lines from a Salt Strong member
Please test the "modified" or double lined GT with 50lb braid to reproduce their 100% results. One forum user said they were not able to reproduce the same results in the Sportsfishing Mag test. I have been saying exactly what this video has said in forums. Good job...
I unfortunately don't have a device that can test 50 lb braid. But based on how that knot is designed, I don't see how it could possibly beat the other top contenders like the PR knot or the FG knot because those knots spread the tension load more evenly across a wider area which is what most often creates a stronger breaking strength when comparing knots.
Gonna have to disagree as I don’t throw anything heavier than 30lb braid/fluoro and I’ve had success getting in 40+lb cats, 20-30lb Striper as well. GT knot>FG knot for the simple fact a GT knot rig has never broken on me while I lost hundreds of dollars of baits with the FG Knot.
I don't know why people are intimidated by the FG. I have arthritis and I'm not very dexterous, but I learned to tie it well in 20 minutes. I can tie them from my main braid to heavy mono in about 2 min now.
The only "GT knot" that performed well in a knot test involved first doubling the line with a Bimini Twist before having to make some pretty tough turns. There are various knots floating around the internet labeled as "GT" that aren't very good at all, so I recommend being wary of using any GT Knot that's easy to tie.
Either of those will work great imo. I use both, except I have a variation in the double uni knot, I tie a jam knot in the main line and uni knot in the leader. Been using it for a very long time. Recently started using an Alberto knot for light tackle because it passes in and out of guides better. They may not be the strongest knots, but they’re plenty strong enough when tied correct. I horsed a 30 lb snook off a structure recently using 15 lb mono mainline and an Alberto knot tied to the leader. Bent a hook out on another larger snook recently with that same knot. Have landed countless tarpon well over 100 lbs from shore using my variation of the double uni knot. No knot holds 100% line strength. So for me, a knot that is reliable that can be tied very quickly and easily in the rain, the dark with no head lamp spooking fish, with sweaty hands, noseeums and mosquitoes gnawing on you, and other conditions is important. I’ve bended out and broken hooks with both knots in the past. Good enough for me.
That GT knot looks like a bad version of the old Huff Nagle Knot that was tied in the Keys & Homosassa by fly guys that were searching for world record tarpon on fly like Billy Pate caught in the 70s 80s
Luke, Thank You 🙏 I’ve seen 4 of these videos in the past 10 days and I’m just glad that I didn’t buy into it knowing I use lighter braids and leaders🎣🤟
Luke- I've had two (2) failures with the FG knot. It unraveled, in turn, losing expensive lures. I tied those half knots 3 or 4 times at the end on both failures. I am using 40 lb braid to 30 lb mono. Very upsetting. I watched your earlier remote control tutorial and then your much simpler updated version most recently. Thus, I've been using the GT knot. Probably the wrong one according to your public service announcement above. I got to tell you, I was mad at you. Just sayin.
So sorry to see that you lost two lures. Assuming they flew off during your cast, the issue had nothing to do with the half hitches because the issue was caused by the other side of the knot... the first coil closest to the lure is the most important one. And if you don't cinch it down hard enough and are casting your knot through the guides (which we don't recommend doing), then you run the risk of that first coil getting compromised which then will cause the knot to fail. Note: The risk of that first coil getting compromised is even greater when using a lighter leader compared to your braid mainline (another thing we don't recommend doing)... may I ask why you're using such a strong braid with just a 30 lb leader? Are you using spinning or bait casting reels?
I've had the fg knot fail on me too. I don't use it anymore. Just don't like the idea of Chinese finger trap on a nylon or watever line. They sure work better on fingers tho.
@@Saltstrong I based my use of 40 lb braid with a 30 lb leader off of your videos. You guys like using 20 lb braid with a 10 lb leader. Or something similar which you advise doing. Am I wrong?? So I have been Fishing around alot of boulders here in Martha's Vineyard off the beach. Thus the heavier braid for abrasion purposes and lighter leader for visual purposes (Stripper Bass, Bonito, Albie's)... To your points I was unaware that pulling the FG knot or any knot through the eyes compromised the reliability of it. I don't think you make that clear in your videos. Thank you for the updated advise.
@@kpnitrl38 We always use a stronger leader than our mainline because that enables the business end to be strongest where the most abrasion is likely to take place (next to the fish) while having a lighter mainline to achieve the best casting distance and feel of strikes. For most inshore fishing, we use 10 lb braid and a 20 to 30 lb leader. If fishing tight to docks/rocks/etc., we most often use 20 lb braid to a 30 to 40 lb leader. Here's a link to the main FG knot post on our website (the 2nd video talks about the "FG knot flaws"): www.saltstrong.com/articles/fg-knot/
How strange, the GT has never failed for me. Figure 8, and a 6 loop uni. Small and strong I use it from 65 braid/25 floro down to 10 braid and 6 floro- The FG knot is the bad knot- hard to tie and gets loose like a chinese finger trap, and the floro just pulls right out, plus its huge... GT knot is the real deal mates
@@alexfranchuk9608 Since you're using a weaker leader relative to your braid, I recommend using a knot that has better support for spreading the load on the fluorocarbon because that's going to be the weak point... the slim beauty just has the figure 8 for the fluoro which doesn't spread the tension load very well. Instead, I recommend going with a double uni with 7 turns for both sides.
@@Saltstrong thanks Luke. Would you recommend an FG for stronger braid and weaker fluoro? Like 10-14 lb braid to 6-8lb fluoro carbon? The double uni on a fluoro is chunkier than a figure 8 unfortunately, hence why I use a Slim Beauty. Love your channel, keep up great work!
@@alexfranchuk9608 I do not recommend the FG knot for connecting a stronger braid to a weaker fluoro (especially a thin fluoro like under 20 lbs) because the braid will have a very tough time digging into the outer layer of the leader line.
Here's the video showing the test of the GT knot vs. the FG knot: ua-cam.com/video/qHT44EdJ2Fg/v-deo.html Please know that we did not create the FG knot nor do we have any ties to it other than simply being impressed by how it has fared in knot tests... as soon as we find a knot that is stronger and easy to tie, we'll be quick to make the change.
@@Saltstrong your test still holds no water. The knots are pre tied. For the record I never claimed you did create the fg. I can think of 4 knots off the top of my head that are easier to tie than fg and perform well, and honestly I have had the fg to slip or break in the knot several times. That along with the time required to retie in a tourney scenario forced me to switch knots. Almost any test favors the opinion of the content creator, I prefer to base my opinion off of real life performance. The fg requires frequent re-ties or the knot fails due to damage caused by braid compromising the surface of the flourocarbon. The knot will fail where the flouro enters the braid. Frequent re-ties of a time consuming knot and tournies do not work.
@@dannylamb9041 You of course are welcome to use whatever knots you want. Just make sure to pick your two favorites and do some break tests on them so you know which one is stronger... all you need to do is tie them on a single strand of line and secure one end to a door knob or fence and pull on the other end until the weakest link breaks... my prediction is that the "GT knot" will break before other good knots like the crazy alberto or double uni. As for the FG knot having to be retied, I have not experienced that need for re-ties. What lines were you using when you had the fluoro getting damaged from the braid?
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Crazy, the FG knot is not that complicated to tie. Thanks for the tip!
The double uni isnt good for light lines either. The braid cuts the floro/mono. I tie the albright for the light line
Good info. I'm interested though, the knot I learned as the GT is the fig 8 with a 6 wrap uni on the other side. It's a low profile knot that has been 100% secure to date for me... Now, I don't suggest my small test results prove anything, but scrolling through the comments, I saw several people saying the same and liking that knot a lot. Thoughts?
I just did a test and the figure 8 (which was mono in my test) slipped loose from the braid uni knot. Just tie you up the knot, and then use some pliers (one on each end) and pull until something breaks. You don't want the line to break at the knot. I have still yet to find the perfect braid to other line knot that isn't super complicated or hard to tie.
I have been using the GT knot for years. It works fine good knot strength. I never had the opportunity to test the breaking point.
I improved the tying by using the leader to go 9 times through the doubled loop of the main line, and then I tie a figure 8 with the tag end of the leader around and through the main line loop, just like the same way as the correct video #7 shows threading the double loop through the figure 8.
My routine line sizes are 15- 20 lb main line, and 25-30 lb leader. I do find it works better with mono than fluorocarbon.
When I use fluorocarbon leader for a GT knot, I usually try to heat the tag end of the leader line to make it a little thicker after cutting off the tag end, to prevent it from slipping through the figure 8 knot.
When in the scenario of using 40 lb or above leader line, I would use FG knot, as it is difficult to make a snugly figure 8 knot with line thicker than 40 lbs.
in your opinion which would be the best knot to use braid to braid the double uni knot vs the blood knot which one would you choose
Luke, thanks for getting into this GT Knot thing, I've seen these knots illustrated, tried them in my garage/workshop and they pull right out like you said or break quickly, still using the FG and it never fails, line breaks first, double uni is my second go to knot and it works good to but FG by far is the best...Tight Lines.
Thanks for making time to leave the nice comment David!
If it's slipping and breaking then there is something wrong with how you're doing it. Been using it for years without issue.
Strong Salt'ers, can you please answer this question for me.....why does the double uni knot keep breaking? When I tie these two knots (at least braid to braid), it will break at one of the knots most of the time. Its almost like under deep stress, one of the knots is cinching down on the other line to where it "saws" through it as it gets tighter and tighter. I've seen others mention this same problem on various forums (just a few people) but with no real solution to it. What gives? I know I'm tying the uni knot right. Maybe it could be certain braids? I've had this problem with suffix 832 line if that matters, which is like 8 strands I think.
At what tension load does this issue take place? All knots will fail once enough tension is applied, so you very well just be putting the max load of tension on it.
Hi. Question:your videos have made it possible for me to tie the FG knot. Thank you. Is the FG knot the right knot for lighter braid to fluorocarbon? Say 15# braid to 8# flouro. Thanks again!
Tried the FG and it came apart at the wrong times. Been using the GT for over 5 years. It works great for 5 lb smallmouth. Easy to tie and goes on the spool easy and through the guides all day long and half the next day. No problems at all and quick to tie.
Thanks for sharing!
It would be helpful to have a link here or in the description for Get Fishing's video on the "real" GT knot. Is a good video.
I used 15lb main line to 40lb Leader line with the GT knot and it’s been working fine for me. Landed a slot snook that was pulling hella drag
Testing is definitely important. Espically for getting the right amount of amount of wraps and using the best knot for your line to line connection
That's for sure!
Why all the videos on strength comparison of the FG vs GT vs other braid to mono. The result differences seem minor. My question would be which knot can compete with the FG on casting smoothly through the guides?
I used a GT last year tying 10lb leader to either 15, 20, or 25 lb braid and had literally zero issues. I fish 225-250 days a year. I dont fish saltwater but I had way less breaking issues than I did tying pretty well any other line to line knot.
Thanks for sharing!
On that rating sheet how can the bimini twist be ranked depending on number of twists at 60-80% if it's part of the official gt knot. Does that not mean weakest link is that? Further the bimini has been tested countless times as being in the 90s% how is it now so low?
Luke you’re the boss dude. You pegged this one. Thanks for the FG knot tutorials. I haven’t lost a fish or lure since watching. Thanks for this info.
Thanks for making time to leave the nice comment Jody!
OK so Im not using the actual GT knot. I learned the version where it's a figure 8 knot and a uni knot on the other end. It has never failed me lol. Whenever I get snagged, my hook with a trilene knot breaks off everytime and I get to save like 5ft of leader. Idk wat the knot I'm using is actually called tho. I've been thinking it was the gt. If u know please do share bc it is so good.
This knot was described and illustrated a few years ago in one of the leading Australian angling magazines. It is called Kaneit Knot.
I actually liked it a lot to start with however had a mixed success, so stopped using it.
I am fishing for bream and using thin diameter fluoro leaders: 3, 4, 5, 6, 8 and 10lb.
I am yet to find the optimal knot for this type of thin lines.
@@alexfranchuk9608 So that's what it's called. Thank you! I use 6lb yozuri hybrid and have no issues with the knot. My leader either breaks off at the hook or somewhere in between. Yozuri hybrid 6lb's actual lb test is like 12lbs tho. It has a greater diameter compared to other 6lb line which doesn't make sense. Maybe a marketing thing by yozuri.
@@allennguyen3522 I might do some tests tying the Kaneit at one end and Slim beauty or a Double uni on the other and see which knot is weaker.
This is how I've tied it! It's been $$$$ but I'm open minded and will listen to all opinions before settling. I am fishing some heavy lines and some lighter, so it may require two different knots.
@@alexfranchuk9608 the Alberto knot works fantastic for really light leader
This whole time I thought I was using the GT knot. As many said, figure 8 on fluorocarbon and uni knot on the braided line 6-8 wraps. The only difference I make is 2 half clinch knots on the braided line after the uni knot. I fish SoCal and Catalina waters. I've caught barracuda, bonito and yellowtail. I'll update if it ever fails me. So it's been good. 17lb to 30 lb fluorocarbon with 20 lb to 80 lb braid.
Thanks for watching out for us luke !
We're here to help!
The GT knot is a great knot when tied correctly
looks like most people unfortunately don’t know how to tie it.
I’ve been using it for about 15years now.
Don’t worry I also love the FG knot as well
I use FG for casting and GT knot for jigging.
The GT knot lasts much longer before it starts to look shabby and needs re doing.
And the natural taper of the knot is much better coming back through the guides if under tension from a fish. FG knot fouls up more coming back in through the guides.
When tied correctly your line will always break at the start of the bimini twist never at the GT knot.
And in regards to it pulling through well I don’t see how that is possible when your using a double/loop in your mainline. it has to snap to pull through when tied correctly.
I've been using the GT knot for over 5 years on 10# braid to 12# flouro and have had zero issues. Love this quick and easy and "strong" knot.
Thanks for keeping us informed with good accurate information. I'm watching this video a year after you made it bt it's still good info to find. Thanks again and take care.
You guys have the best info!
Thanks for your support!
How did u test it, how do u test properly without proper professional equipment?
Never heard of a GT knot... Now I am glad I haven't.
Your knot missing anything lol
@@bradhartmeister2717 ngl I enjoyed reading your comment.
Sorry if this is off topic, but I loved the crazy Alberto knot video you did, isn't this better than GT?
Yes, the Crazy Alberto is better than the GT knot for light lines (under 50 lbs... it's debatable once it goes above 50).
I seen those video's too. All of the ones I've seem are different. Never the same knot. Thank you for pointing it out 💪👍🎣😎
Thanks for making time to leave the nice comment.
So would you say the double uni knot better
Well, that explains why I kept losing fish! Not for light line. Thanks for the research, Luke!
Sorry to see that you lost some fish due to the GT knot being weaker than advertised. I recommend testing knots out on the lines you're using before making any official changes to make sure they work well for the specific lines you're using (that includes before making a change based on any of our recommendations too if you're using different lines than we are).
Thank you. Cleared up the confusion.
Thanks for checking it out!
I use a tony pena knot but instead of using an overhand for the mono side I use a double uni. Use it for tuna fishing, never had it break
I fully agree with your comments. I use the gt knot a lot but with lighter lines i use the fg knot.
Gt is unnecessary in my opinion; friends told me to learn but my good old easy to tie double uni never failed me
Thank you man. I've looked at those GT Knot instructional videos you referenced and the knot looked like garbage. I hope people find your video and avoid the GT Imposter Knot.
I have pulled in quite a few cobia using the GT knot.
Never had a problem
Mostly fishing micro guides anyway so I’ve found a quick way of tying the FG that’s easy to do on the fly in the boat.
WHAT ABOUT THE FG with rizzuto finish? ALWAYS MY GO TO LINE TO LINE
The FG is amazing! The Rizzuto finish is optional... doesn't add to the knot's strength, but it can give some added peace of mind that the FG coils will stay in place. I personally haven't run into any issues with the more basic and quicker to tie half hitches, so I stick with them in place of the rizzuto.
Have used a GT not in recent years. FG knot just too hard to tie in fishing conditions. Line 4lb braid, 4lb and 6lb fluorocarbon lead. Figure 8 leader, single strand braid uni knot.
Has never let me down. Including landing a 30lb mulloway after 1 hour under constant pressure.
Thanks for sharing!
wow.. thanks for your information sir, I've been using d one dat i thought that it was d gt knot.. thank you
Thank you!
I found out about the knot the hard way. Lost a good Tarpon that day. Looked into it and figured out that it wasn't a real GT knot. I went back to using a double uni ever since with zero problems.
Sorry to hear about that... darn GT knot!
I have been using this knot for over a year, and have not had a break or have i had this knot slip. Very interesting. I do like the slimmer profile of the FG but i'm not fixing something that isn't broke. Maybe people are just tying it wrong who knows . Just my .02
Based on how poorly the "GT knot" did in testing, you're better off going with the double uni knot if you want to save time. The FG knot only take about 30 seconds longer to tie after some practice, and that small amount of time is well worth the 20%+ added strength and the much slimmer knot.
@@Saltstrong I'm going to start tying that FG per your pinkie method, It's always good to have multiple knots in your arsenal. My only thing is fishing out of a kayak, and trying to tie that knot will pose a challenge, on the other hand i haven't had to re-tie or re-do a GT. Thanks for the insight. Tight Lines from a Salt Strong member
Really useful info important to know. Thanks.
Thanks Luke
Welcome!
Thank u for educating me especially a noob
Please test the "modified" or double lined GT with 50lb braid to reproduce their 100% results. One forum user said they were not able to reproduce the same results in the Sportsfishing Mag test. I have been saying exactly what this video has said in forums. Good job...
I unfortunately don't have a device that can test 50 lb braid.
But based on how that knot is designed, I don't see how it could possibly beat the other top contenders like the PR knot or the FG knot because those knots spread the tension load more evenly across a wider area which is what most often creates a stronger breaking strength when comparing knots.
Yea, every knot I use is pretty much a uni knot. Works good for me.
The uni knot is one of the best all-round knots out there... rarely the absolute strongest for a given need, but it's always dependable.
Gonna have to disagree as I don’t throw anything heavier than 30lb braid/fluoro and I’ve had success getting in 40+lb cats, 20-30lb Striper as well. GT knot>FG knot for the simple fact a GT knot rig has never broken on me while I lost hundreds of dollars of baits with the FG Knot.
Absolutely correct
Thanks for making time to leave the nice comment Richard!
Thanks for the tip
@saltstrong Have you ever tried the Melville Island Knot?
FG is king 👑
I don't know why people are intimidated by the FG. I have arthritis and I'm not very dexterous, but I learned to tie it well in 20 minutes. I can tie them from my main braid to heavy mono in about 2 min now.
In a pinch, a GT with the braid doubled, is reasonably good, but not a FG by any stretch of the imagination
The only "GT knot" that performed well in a knot test involved first doubling the line with a Bimini Twist before having to make some pretty tough turns. There are various knots floating around the internet labeled as "GT" that aren't very good at all, so I recommend being wary of using any GT Knot that's easy to tie.
Double uni or Alberto for lighter lines?
Neither... the FG knot is all I use after doing a lot of testing. It beat both of those knots by 30%+ while being thinner too.
Either of those will work great imo. I use both, except I have a variation in the double uni knot, I tie a jam knot in the main line and uni knot in the leader. Been using it for a very long time. Recently started using an Alberto knot for light tackle because it passes in and out of guides better. They may not be the strongest knots, but they’re plenty strong enough when tied correct. I horsed a 30 lb snook off a structure recently using 15 lb mono mainline and an Alberto knot tied to the leader. Bent a hook out on another larger snook recently with that same knot. Have landed countless tarpon well over 100 lbs from shore using my variation of the double uni knot. No knot holds 100% line strength. So for me, a knot that is reliable that can be tied very quickly and easily in the rain, the dark with no head lamp spooking fish, with sweaty hands, noseeums and mosquitoes gnawing on you, and other conditions is important. I’ve bended out and broken hooks with both knots in the past. Good enough for me.
What you are saying totally makes sense. These new knots are really a glorified double uni
Thanks for watching!
Your right, that knot is not the gt I tie
That GT knot looks like a bad version of the old Huff Nagle Knot that was tied in the Keys & Homosassa by fly guys that were searching for world record tarpon on fly like Billy Pate caught in the 70s 80s
Great info...but you don't need to feed the leader through really...folloe the guys video you mentioned
Luke,
Thank You 🙏
I’ve seen 4 of these videos in the past 10 days and I’m just glad that I didn’t buy into it knowing I use lighter braids and leaders🎣🤟
Luke-
I've had two (2) failures with the FG knot. It unraveled, in turn, losing expensive lures. I tied those half knots 3 or 4 times at the end on both failures. I am using 40 lb braid to 30 lb mono.
Very upsetting. I watched your earlier remote control tutorial and then your much simpler updated version most recently. Thus, I've been using the GT knot. Probably the wrong one according to your public service announcement above.
I got to tell you, I was mad at you. Just sayin.
So sorry to see that you lost two lures. Assuming they flew off during your cast, the issue had nothing to do with the half hitches because the issue was caused by the other side of the knot... the first coil closest to the lure is the most important one. And if you don't cinch it down hard enough and are casting your knot through the guides (which we don't recommend doing), then you run the risk of that first coil getting compromised which then will cause the knot to fail.
Note: The risk of that first coil getting compromised is even greater when using a lighter leader compared to your braid mainline (another thing we don't recommend doing)... may I ask why you're using such a strong braid with just a 30 lb leader? Are you using spinning or bait casting reels?
I've had the fg knot fail on me too. I don't use it anymore. Just don't like the idea of Chinese finger trap on a nylon or watever line. They sure work better on fingers tho.
@@Saltstrong I based my use of 40 lb braid with a 30 lb leader off of your videos. You guys like using 20 lb braid with a 10 lb leader. Or something similar which you advise doing. Am I wrong??
So I have been Fishing around alot of boulders here in Martha's Vineyard off the beach. Thus the heavier braid for abrasion purposes and lighter leader for visual purposes (Stripper Bass, Bonito, Albie's)...
To your points I was unaware that pulling the FG knot or any knot through the eyes compromised the reliability of it. I don't think you make that clear in your videos.
Thank you for the updated advise.
@@allennguyen3522 What lines were you using when you had the failure?
@@kpnitrl38 We always use a stronger leader than our mainline because that enables the business end to be strongest where the most abrasion is likely to take place (next to the fish) while having a lighter mainline to achieve the best casting distance and feel of strikes. For most inshore fishing, we use 10 lb braid and a 20 to 30 lb leader. If fishing tight to docks/rocks/etc., we most often use 20 lb braid to a 30 to 40 lb leader.
Here's a link to the main FG knot post on our website (the 2nd video talks about the "FG knot flaws"): www.saltstrong.com/articles/fg-knot/
Keeping it simple....modified double uni or FG
Thanks!
Stick with the Albright
How strange, the GT has never failed for me. Figure 8, and a 6 loop uni. Small and strong
I use it from 65 braid/25 floro down to 10 braid and 6 floro-
The FG knot is the bad knot- hard to tie and gets loose like a chinese finger trap, and the floro just pulls right out, plus its huge...
GT knot is the real deal mates
This is what I tie, but it's not a GT knot according to this vid. I'd like to hear the opinion of Salt Strong on this knot.
I use this knot for all of my leaders, 10# braid to 20# fluorocarbon. I have never had a problem, i use 7 wraps on the uni side.
I lost a very nice grouper thanks to a gt knot
Lost a huge catfish today due to the FG knot unraveling and was 100% tied correctly with the tag end heated
Thanks for the info - I lost a fish yesterday because of those stupid videos.
Be wary of "viral videos".
Very true!
A Slim Beauty for fine lines 👍
What lines are you using? I tried it with 10 lb powerpro to a 30 lb leader, and the Slim Beauty didn't perform very well.
@@Saltstrong 10 lb braid to 4 - 8lb fluorocarbon. Fishing for bream.
@@alexfranchuk9608 Since you're using a weaker leader relative to your braid, I recommend using a knot that has better support for spreading the load on the fluorocarbon because that's going to be the weak point... the slim beauty just has the figure 8 for the fluoro which doesn't spread the tension load very well.
Instead, I recommend going with a double uni with 7 turns for both sides.
@@Saltstrong thanks Luke. Would you recommend an FG for stronger braid and weaker fluoro? Like 10-14 lb braid to 6-8lb fluoro carbon?
The double uni on a fluoro is chunkier than a figure 8 unfortunately, hence why I use a Slim Beauty.
Love your channel, keep up great work!
@@alexfranchuk9608 I do not recommend the FG knot for connecting a stronger braid to a weaker fluoro (especially a thin fluoro like under 20 lbs) because the braid will have a very tough time digging into the outer layer of the leader line.
It looks Ike it'll break guides
No fg knot cronie will ever admit there are better and easier knots. You said you performed a test...where's the video? What was your method?
Here's the video showing the test of the GT knot vs. the FG knot: ua-cam.com/video/qHT44EdJ2Fg/v-deo.html
Please know that we did not create the FG knot nor do we have any ties to it other than simply being impressed by how it has fared in knot tests... as soon as we find a knot that is stronger and easy to tie, we'll be quick to make the change.
@@Saltstrong your test still holds no water. The knots are pre tied. For the record I never claimed you did create the fg. I can think of 4 knots off the top of my head that are easier to tie than fg and perform well, and honestly I have had the fg to slip or break in the knot several times. That along with the time required to retie in a tourney scenario forced me to switch knots. Almost any test favors the opinion of the content creator, I prefer to base my opinion off of real life performance. The fg requires frequent re-ties or the knot fails due to damage caused by braid compromising the surface of the flourocarbon. The knot will fail where the flouro enters the braid. Frequent re-ties of a time consuming knot and tournies do not work.
@@dannylamb9041 You of course are welcome to use whatever knots you want. Just make sure to pick your two favorites and do some break tests on them so you know which one is stronger... all you need to do is tie them on a single strand of line and secure one end to a door knob or fence and pull on the other end until the weakest link breaks... my prediction is that the "GT knot" will break before other good knots like the crazy alberto or double uni.
As for the FG knot having to be retied, I have not experienced that need for re-ties. What lines were you using when you had the fluoro getting damaged from the braid?
Double uni is garbage
Thanks for the feedback!
The gt knot sucks