This guy absolutely gets it. He doesn’t just try to sell you a bike, he actually knows the bikes, and knows what people actually need to hear. Very solid. He’s honest enough to say that superports are incredible, but above his skill level, and so not particularly well suited to his street riding preferences. I know a lot of riders that could learn from that. The ZX-4RR is going to be an absolute banger for a street supersport. People say you have to get the fastest thing, but what about people who restore classic cars and bikes? Are those still not badass? I’d say most of us agree that they are, just for reasons other than being fast. Just because technology has progressed, or it’s not a supercar/bike doesn’t mean it can’t still be the best thing ever. Don’t let anyone tell you that you “need” a liter bike or something. You just might enjoy something like this more.
I appreciate your kind words! And yes, I agree. People get caught up buying bikes that are too fast for them because they think that fast equals fun. Fast CAN be fun, but a bike like this is fun at any speed, and if you're searching out fun, and want to have a bike that you can just become a better and better rider, this bike is a great option!
My wife is from the Philippines, the problem with a lot of Filipino reviews is they are not only very in depth (most seem to have no idea about key features or other useful information), they speak mixed English, Tagalog, and native dialect. This makes it impossible for most to follow everything they say 100%, even if you know Tagalog and English, you may not understand the native dialect, which is in her case Bisayan.
The problem with Pinoy content is generally shill concept. Conflict of Interest is rampant. This applies to most products, even as simple as food recommendations.
Back when the bike first came out in Asian markets all I could find were videos like "ZX4RR TOPS SPEED (in 3rd gear)" or something else that isn't the actual top speed.
@@ricsim78there was significant info to glean from those videos, but you have to understand they weren’t true reviews, they were no different than the English markets where companies give bikes to big names to check out. Also…they had the 250 already so they were interested in some pretty specific differentiators over and above everything else
Someone on the forums who's a tuner has an ECU and the general thought is that yes, it revs up to 16k (15.2k or so), but it starts cutting the throttle past 11.5k rpms. Without a dyno graph, this seems to point to them limiting the power to achieving max at 11.5k (exactly like they said it would be). However, this is still just a flash away from saying "no, let's keep the throttle open further past 11.5k".
Yeah... That's definitely a possibility. At the end of the day, it's possible this will need an ecu tune to unlock it's full potential. The reality is, if it's limited for regulations... The manufacturer likely won't be able to advertise, or potentially even offer, a solution. That being said, a solution will be out there.
@@PeterLoweOne The rumor mill around the track crew here is that according to a US-Spec, it revs to 16-ish, dyno's at 71 hp to the wheel. The crew dyno'ing it expects that with a full exhaust and ecu flash, they will see 80+ hp at the wheel.
yeah stock, power start to go down instead of keeping climbing after 11,500 but as you said with a simple ecu flash you can easily unlock full power. I've seen videos that went from 53 to 70 whp from ecu flash
@@JCintheBCC USA and CA models do not make 71 hp to the wheel stock no where close. ua-cam.com/video/9W8Dw8g4lSA/v-deo.html he only gets 53 whp before ecu flash
I'm silently watching a lot of your videos thinking about buying my second bike and i just want to thank You for amazing reviews and comparisons, it's rare to find someone so good at this.
Hey Peter, I've had mine for a year, and you couldn't be more right about any of it. I DARE you to find a more fun bike that goes like this one and cost almost nothing to insure. I'm so glad you made this video and got me pumped up to buy one. So happy I got mine.
Been thinking about trading in my Z650 on a ZX-4RR when they release them here in Australia later this year. Good to hear it’s not an overly committed riding position as that would be a deal breaker as I use my bike for the daily commute.
My thanks from us over in the UK, yours is the first real video I've seen of this bike. Out the gate, I was worried about how cramped the riding position would be, super that you answered that straight away. If you get a chance to ride the bike, then please film it for us. I understand of course a customer might purchase it before then. All the best. John
@@AnsenJudit-b3e Yes sir, nice bikes for sure. Was tough choice but ultimately feel in love with the black, the color is way better in person and didn't feel I needed adjustable shocks or quick shifter. I'd be lying if I said I didn't waffle back and forth though lol. The dealer I was at had all 3 to choose from; green RR, black RR, black R. When I learned I can add a quick shifter later if I wanted, I settled on the Black R. Don't regret it at all, can't go wrong with any of these ZX4s.
hey man i was gonna get the zx 4r and i wanted to know the good and bad in the bike is there anyway you can give me your number or something so we can talk about the bike?
Thanks for pointing out the paint colour issue with the ZX-4R. I prefer black bikes, but the ZX-4R just doesn't look as good as the 4RR in every photo and video I've seen. The KRT colours seem to complement the contours of the bike much better, but it's good to know the black version isn't as bad in person.
I miss my Ninja 400, but I caught the adventure bug and traded it for a KTM 390 Adventure. This ZX-4R looks like a very exciting new bike! Hopefully other manufactures follow suit and give it some competition!
I'm just happy that these exist now. I think the other manufacturers will be paying attention, but bluntly, they'll have to make a pretty great bike to compete. Kawasaki has set the bar sky high with this bike. It's better than I thought it would be!
Yeah it would be cool to see a cbr400rr and an r4. But I don't see if it might happen since out of the 4 Japanese manufacturers just kawasaki has been really keeping up with their superspots line, they're even updating the zx6r to follow euro 5 emissions! And what did the others do? Well yamaha just faired up their mt7 and called it an r7, completely ruining the name that was associated with the cool 750cc inline 4s of the 90s and completely gave up on the r6, and honda hasn't updated their 600 in 10 years. And suzuki has just given up entirely on supersports and racing. I just hope these bikes sell well, I don't want to see the middle weight supersports class go extinct.
You can add the quickshifter on the R. I spoke to my local dealer, and he said when the owners came in for the first service they added the quickshifter.
@PeterLoweOne cheers 😁 Currently watching your new Ninja 650 video, and I can't decide which to buy regarding heart (ZX4R) vs logic (Ninja 650). In Sweden they cost basically the same, 4R is just €130 more per year in insurance. If Kawasaki did a 375 cc 3 cylinder I wouldn't need to think this much 😂 Good quality videos mate 👌🏻
Luv your reviews Peter, always insightful and detailed 👍…I’m keenly awaiting this to arrive in Australia as it’s on my shortlist to upgrade to from my current Ninja 400, however I was concerned about the riding position being to extreme, but being similar height (6ft) to yourself, it didn’t look to bad….can’t wait for the on road review 🙂
The definition of "Its more fun to ride a slow bike fast then a fast bike slow!! Kawasaki ZX4RR. Go team green!! Nice vid yo, I was truly entertained!! 💚
Haha! Yeah, although I don't think this bike is all that slow, but you're right in that you can really enjoy this bike at any speed, where the fastest super bikes are less fun at slower speeds.
You’re putting out some great, unique content, and the deep dives are appreciated. I have only ever owned Kawasaki, and you seem to be a fan as well. Thanks for the honest videos! So a quick question; size wise, how much larger is the Ninja 650 ( I’ve owned many;) than this new ZX-4R? Is the seating positions at all similar? Thanks again for all you do, even for those of us “ down under” in the states🤓😉👍!
Thanks so much for your kind words, I appreciate the support. So the seating position is... different than the Ninja 650. The Ninja 650 would be more upright, and your hands are more curled in on the ZX-4RR. You also lean more forward. To some the ZX-4RR would be more uncomfortable, but to me it's just different. Probably a little more uncomfortable, but for me, I think I'd be happy to ride this on longer rides without an issue. It's not nearly as comfortable as my Z900RS SE, but of course, that bike is one of the more comfortable bikes in the Kawasaki lineup. If these stick around long enough, I'll try to do a comparison between a few different bikes.
Wow, a TFT dash that actually HAS a Fuel Gauge !!! Awesome. In that same area of the dash - on the zx-10r, they use it for something completely useless - unfortunately. Now we will need to wait and see if the zx-6r will (ever) get a nice TFT dash - and if they will be smart-enough to give us a fuel gauge, too. Thanks for your great review by the way.
@@JagMoto636 Yes, it does (now). Hope that when they finally update it with a TFT dash, that they give it a fuel gauge, because they did not do this on the zx10r. It is present on the other bikes.
@@iamtheicemanzx10r has a fuel gauge lol what are you saying ?? It’s a click away, you don’t need to stare at your gas every 2 seconds when temperature and lean angle is more important lol
This is the only super sport bike that I would consider recommending to a newer rider. It's still going to be a LOT of bike, but you'll never ever have to sell it, this thing is loaded with great engineering and quality components!
Excellent choice! Keep in mind it’s a lot more than just power that cause issues. Don’t do anything suddenly, be that breaking, turning, etc. Supersports are generally very sharp in every way. Also, the first year of riding is the most critical, and the first six months with each bike as well. It’s likely bigger than you might imagine. Take it as easy as you can, and be hyper aware.
So so excited for this. My first bike was a 1991 GSF250 Bandit (lovely rev-happy 4cyl), I've had much bigger bikes but there's such joy in having a small capacity high-revving sportsbike that you can really get the best out of in the real world. I hope this sells well and other manufacturers follow suit. 500cc parallel twins feel so flat and miserable by comparison
This is the bike I've been dreaming of ever since I bought my Ninja EX250R brand new in 2007. I've always wanted a small displacement 4-cylinder. That said... I'm moving away from the US for a couple of years. Really hoping that the ZX-4R still still be available in 2025, when I am back.
just took deliver today with the zx4rr in Vancouver BC, I can confirm that Canadian version can rev to redline. But, dealer told me that power does cut out on the go, so need to get it flashed.
As usual your videos are awesome. I've learnt so much from your vids. Yes im late to the party but now I have zx4rr and 500 ninjas both 40th anniversary so I'd cry if I drop one (new rider also but had crf300l, grom TNT 135). I didn't even realise there was an r version and different from rr
You're going to be SUPER happy with it, and from the sounds of it, you'll be able to sell it for what you paid for it in a number of years. I would LOVE to own one of these!
While I understand the benefits of new tech like the quick shifter up & down, I would still prefer the good old throttle blipping action while squeezing the brake lever on downshifts. Just like in a manual car, I don’t like using the auto-clip function (if it’s equipped with one). Speaking of that, can you turn off the quick shifter on this zx4rr?
I don't... on this type of bike it's really going to vary with riding style. I think we should see some good real world information popping up online soon as real riders begin to take delivery of these now.
Great video, but anyone who knows and has been into motorcycle knows that the 4 bangers are the way to go back in the late 80 early 90 they had 250cc 4 cylinder Reving to 20 000rpm I've had the chance to ride one a few times
Yeah. I think it had been hinted in some American news articles that this was going to be a cheaper way to get the bike (the R vs. RR) but in Canada, it's just a mild trim difference.
Watching everything I can and so couple of questions here.... 1) I did not see anyone above 6' on it yet, but because I am like 6'4" and Ninja for me was great for about 2 hours (just not so wide and it felt like CBR 125 on steroids :-)) so I suppose no problem here as it is wider and slightly taller. Surprise was YZF-R3 which feels really bigger compared to regular Ninja 400 2) Does RR version have USB socket included in price? It should as SE have it, right? 3) What is the useful weight you can put on the bike? Is it around 180kg or such? 4) What are the service intervals? 5) What is the procedure for first 1000 (or 1500km?)? Is it limited on revs (to which level) or you are supposed to use only rain mode (or road)?
Can a beginner start on this bike? I was looking at a ninja 500 but I really want the 4cyl engine. I want a bike i can grow into and enjoy for a long time. I dont need the speed of the zx6rr. I think the price for the zx4r is worth it in the ling run. What you guys think?
He did not have the data when he made this video. Flash it right out the gate if you want the full power. Full exhaust with no O2 sensor if you want the rest it can give. Flash fixes the top end. Full exhaust moves the whole power band up and substantially reduces weight.
Greetings from Ontario my friend! An excellent concise review, very good to know it does rev till the red line, now if only we can make sure if the peak bhp is the same as our European bros?
Thanks for the very detailed review. Please check the VIN plate and let us know where Kawasaki is assembling these machines…Japan, Thailand, or Malaysia.
The Ninja 400 is probably a little more upright, and comfortable, but a closer comparison would still be the Ninja 650. Even so, the ZX-4R is still the higher performing bike.
Depends on your preferences, for everyday use I'd buy a Ninja 400, it will be dirt cheap to own and maintain and can still give you fun. But if you're buying bike to have fun, pick the zx4r.
I see your comment. If you're interested, use the link in the description of this video and connect with the sales team at Jim Gilbert's PowerSports. They'll be able to help you. I know the black one is already sold. You'll have to check about the ZX-4RR. It was still in the showroom early yesterday afternoon. Tell them my video sent you!
Wow, been waiting for the regular zx4r. Wanted that instead of the zx4rr. Dealers are telling me that they are not making the regular zx4r for some time. Even on Kawasakis website they do not show the regular zx4r. Not sure how you even got one. You know the price of the regular zx4r?
No it's axial, pause the vid at 19.47 and if you look it has the metal res on the top. Rather than a plastic separate res that radial would have. I bet one could be got after market from brembo, no problem though.
I wonder if Kawasaki will offer that as an option, and if they don't, I'd rather have the Kawasaki factory option that ties into the TFT display than an aftermarket one.
cool so its here in NA (United States too)? All my dealerships are presold but they told me I can come sit on one when the first comes in as I am a short rider.
It's a little tall, but you'll have to see if it works for you. I've sat a number of people at Jim Gilbert's Wheels and Deals on it, and it has worked well for taller and shorter riders.
So I address that at 1:41 of this video. These bikes are NOT restricted as far as we can tell. I'll address this in future videos as we dig into things, but we film in Canada, and we don't have the EPA, we have a different regulating body, but we were expecting a limit of 11,500 rpm, and it doesn't appear that these bikes have that. So this is GREAT news for us!
@@life.of.hang711 I film in Canada. Jim Gilbert's PowerSports is the number one Volume Kawasaki Dealer in the country. They're in Fredericton, New Brunswick. Yes, Canada and the U.S. will be getting both models in this video.
Yeah, they're going to be pretty rare right now. If you live near Fredericton, New Brunswick, there is still have one in the showroom right now at Jim Gilbert's PowerSports!
Same, I would take the ZX-4RR if that's all I could get, but the ZX-4R is what I'm really after. I don't need the speed shifter or suspension adjustments for street use.
I would assume it's pretty good, but riding style, rider's weight and a while bunch of other factors make a big difference in real world fuel efficiency. So it would be tough for me to measure accurately on a test ride.
@@PeterLoweOne I figure that's why I can't find a single answer online. I'm much more interested in real world/spirited riding rather than manufacture numbers anyway
Kawasaki doesn't list horsepower specs, and there is some variance online right now. I know that people are starting to get these on the dyno's and we'll begin to see consistent numbers soon in a quick google search.
So the brakes they chose for the 4RR are better than Nissin ? Or is this cheap corner cutting they pulled to save money & have the buyer upgrade the brakes?
The radial mounted brakes are the style that you see on higher performing bikes. I would say that, as is, the ZX-4R has better brakes and the components are all there for simple high performance upgrades.
They're extremely limited production for the first year. You will likely have to fight to get your hands on one. Or you can just take one of these two at Jim Gilbert's PowerSports. No fighting at all! 🙂
i went to a dealer here in socal (the biggest kawi dealer in california) and they’re only getting 4. even the staff members who wanted the bikes are back ordered until 2025. there’s 25 deposits and only 4 bikes, so, not sure how that’ll work out.
@@KellerFkinRyan Yeah. I expect these to sell easily. They're better than I expected, and they fit what a lot of us have wanted in a sport bike. Kawasaki hit it out of the park with this.
@@PeterLoweOne a little disappointing for me, I wanted one as a first bike, but I dont want to wait multiple years for that. hopefully this wont be a super limited 3 year run or something, and I can get my hands on one in like 6 years or so when the hype has died down a bit.
Horsepower ratings aren't given by Kawasaki, and I've seen a wide variance of information online. I know that people are starting to get these on Dyno's so we'll see consistent results soon with a quick google search.
www.kawasaki.ca can show you the difference quicker and more accurately than I can describe here in the comments. I do talk about the differences in this video too.
I wouldn't think so. Keep in mind there is no naked version of the ZX-6 or ZX-10. These are true super sport bikes, so they don't have the geometry that easily translates to a naked bike.
@@PeterLoweOne I agree, however I can't think of something that has an inline 4 engine with somewhat naked bodywork, a non-supersport riding position, and an approachable amount of power. I think if someone wanted an inline 4 and a naked bike, that'd be the one to get.
Great video! Do you know if the KQS quick shift can be turned on and off? I love the RR color scheme but will usually always be doing clutch shifts so was wondering if it could be turned on and off?
Great question. The default position from the factory is to have it off. You need to turn it on in the menu system. When I do the video on the display of this bike, I'll be sure to show you how that works. Thanks for watching! Feel free to subscribe!
@@PeterLoweOneThanks for your quick answer! So ecu flashing/tuning should give the same results 😊 Anxious to get my hands on one😅 And "de-numb" it to its full potential like in Asia-europe.
@@fmjammofull So I can't speak to the ECU flash, or tune. I'm just guessing at this point. But that would be what I would begin to research, google, etc. It's a logical solution that puts the responsibility for extra noise etc onto the customer who approves the tune, instead of on the manufacturer who has to abide by the laws in order to sell the vehicle.
Reportedly the USA version which also revs to "16000" is actually 15200 as the tach is a little dishonest. ECU flash brings real revs to 16500 but indicates 17350 on the dash. Shades of Yamaha R6. I would assume Canada model is exactly the same wrt this detail.
This guy absolutely gets it. He doesn’t just try to sell you a bike, he actually knows the bikes, and knows what people actually need to hear. Very solid. He’s honest enough to say that superports are incredible, but above his skill level, and so not particularly well suited to his street riding preferences. I know a lot of riders that could learn from that.
The ZX-4RR is going to be an absolute banger for a street supersport. People say you have to get the fastest thing, but what about people who restore classic cars and bikes? Are those still not badass? I’d say most of us agree that they are, just for reasons other than being fast. Just because technology has progressed, or it’s not a supercar/bike doesn’t mean it can’t still be the best thing ever. Don’t let anyone tell you that you “need” a liter bike or something. You just might enjoy something like this more.
I appreciate your kind words! And yes, I agree. People get caught up buying bikes that are too fast for them because they think that fast equals fun. Fast CAN be fun, but a bike like this is fun at any speed, and if you're searching out fun, and want to have a bike that you can just become a better and better rider, this bike is a great option!
Congratulations on the content!!!! You showed in 30 minutes much more detail than thousands of Filipino and Indonesian videos did not show.
It's truly incredible how uninformative all the Asia-market videos are. It's almost like every buyer was sworn to secrecy.
My wife is from the Philippines, the problem with a lot of Filipino reviews is they are not only very in depth (most seem to have no idea about key features or other useful information), they speak mixed English, Tagalog, and native dialect. This makes it impossible for most to follow everything they say 100%, even if you know Tagalog and English, you may not understand the native dialect, which is in her case Bisayan.
The problem with Pinoy content is generally shill concept. Conflict of Interest is rampant. This applies to most products, even as simple as food recommendations.
Back when the bike first came out in Asian markets all I could find were videos like "ZX4RR TOPS SPEED (in 3rd gear)" or something else that isn't the actual top speed.
@@ricsim78there was significant info to glean from those videos, but you have to understand they weren’t true reviews, they were no different than the English markets where companies give bikes to big names to check out. Also…they had the 250 already so they were interested in some pretty specific differentiators over and above everything else
Someone on the forums who's a tuner has an ECU and the general thought is that yes, it revs up to 16k (15.2k or so), but it starts cutting the throttle past 11.5k rpms. Without a dyno graph, this seems to point to them limiting the power to achieving max at 11.5k (exactly like they said it would be). However, this is still just a flash away from saying "no, let's keep the throttle open further past 11.5k".
Yeah... That's definitely a possibility. At the end of the day, it's possible this will need an ecu tune to unlock it's full potential. The reality is, if it's limited for regulations... The manufacturer likely won't be able to advertise, or potentially even offer, a solution. That being said, a solution will be out there.
@@PeterLoweOne The rumor mill around the track crew here is that according to a US-Spec, it revs to 16-ish, dyno's at 71 hp to the wheel. The crew dyno'ing it expects that with a full exhaust and ecu flash, they will see 80+ hp at the wheel.
@@JCintheBCC Sounds realistic to me.
yeah stock, power start to go down instead of keeping climbing after 11,500 but as you said with a simple ecu flash you can easily unlock full power. I've seen videos that went from 53 to 70 whp from ecu flash
@@JCintheBCC USA and CA models do not make 71 hp to the wheel stock no where close. ua-cam.com/video/9W8Dw8g4lSA/v-deo.html he only gets 53 whp before ecu flash
I'm silently watching a lot of your videos thinking about buying my second bike and i just want to thank You for amazing reviews and comparisons, it's rare to find someone so good at this.
I appreciate your kind words! Thanks for watching!
Hey Peter, I've had mine for a year, and you couldn't be more right about any of it. I DARE you to find a more fun bike that goes like this one and cost almost nothing to insure. I'm so glad you made this video and got me pumped up to buy one. So happy I got mine.
Been thinking about trading in my Z650 on a ZX-4RR when they release them here in Australia later this year. Good to hear it’s not an overly committed riding position as that would be a deal breaker as I use my bike for the daily commute.
Yeah, that surprised me! It's not z650 levels of upright seating, but for a super sport, it's excellent!
My thanks from us over in the UK, yours is the first real video I've seen of this bike.
Out the gate, I was worried about how cramped the riding position would be, super that you answered that straight away.
If you get a chance to ride the bike, then please film it for us. I understand of course a customer might purchase it before then.
All the best.
John
Just pulled the trigger on a black ZX4-R, in love with it!!
A dealer near me has a zx4r but I’m still holding out for a rr
zx4rr all the way. quick shift is awesome up and down and the krt racing livery but obviously depends on your taste.
@@AnsenJudit-b3e Yes sir, nice bikes for sure. Was tough choice but ultimately feel in love with the black, the color is way better in person and didn't feel I needed adjustable shocks or quick shifter. I'd be lying if I said I didn't waffle back and forth though lol. The dealer I was at had all 3 to choose from; green RR, black RR, black R. When I learned I can add a quick shifter later if I wanted, I settled on the Black R. Don't regret it at all, can't go wrong with any of these ZX4s.
hey man i was gonna get the zx 4r and i wanted to know the good and bad in the bike is there anyway you can give me your number or something so we can talk about the bike?
Thanks for pointing out the paint colour issue with the ZX-4R. I prefer black bikes, but the ZX-4R just doesn't look as good as the 4RR in every photo and video I've seen. The KRT colours seem to complement the contours of the bike much better, but it's good to know the black version isn't as bad in person.
I ordered the black one with quick shifter for next season, I like the black Ninja look more than the wannabe racer look
@@ninja1970fin it’s a fuckin bike, not a car.. live a little 😂😂😂
@@X11CHASE haha :D I don't really see your point but maybe it is just me.
Man these bikes are so cool. Wish more small sport bikes had this philosophy. I hope consumers buy/support them
I miss my Ninja 400, but I caught the adventure bug and traded it for a KTM 390 Adventure. This ZX-4R looks like a very exciting new bike! Hopefully other manufactures follow suit and give it some competition!
I'm just happy that these exist now. I think the other manufacturers will be paying attention, but bluntly, they'll have to make a pretty great bike to compete. Kawasaki has set the bar sky high with this bike. It's better than I thought it would be!
Yeah it would be cool to see a cbr400rr and an r4. But I don't see if it might happen since out of the 4 Japanese manufacturers just kawasaki has been really keeping up with their superspots line, they're even updating the zx6r to follow euro 5 emissions! And what did the others do? Well yamaha just faired up their mt7 and called it an r7, completely ruining the name that was associated with the cool 750cc inline 4s of the 90s and completely gave up on the r6, and honda hasn't updated their 600 in 10 years. And suzuki has just given up entirely on supersports and racing. I just hope these bikes sell well, I don't want to see the middle weight supersports class go extinct.
You can add the quickshifter on the R. I spoke to my local dealer, and he said when the owners came in for the first service they added the quickshifter.
Yup. I mentioned this in a later video. I made this video when we really didn't have much information.
@PeterLoweOne cheers 😁
Currently watching your new Ninja 650 video, and I can't decide which to buy regarding heart (ZX4R) vs logic (Ninja 650). In Sweden they cost basically the same, 4R is just €130 more per year in insurance.
If Kawasaki did a 375 cc 3 cylinder I wouldn't need to think this much 😂
Good quality videos mate 👌🏻
Luv your reviews Peter, always insightful and detailed 👍…I’m keenly awaiting this to arrive in Australia as it’s on my shortlist to upgrade to from my current Ninja 400, however I was concerned about the riding position being to extreme, but being similar height (6ft) to yourself, it didn’t look to bad….can’t wait for the on road review 🙂
The definition of "Its more fun to ride a slow bike fast then a fast bike slow!! Kawasaki ZX4RR. Go team green!! Nice vid yo, I was truly entertained!! 💚
Haha! Yeah, although I don't think this bike is all that slow, but you're right in that you can really enjoy this bike at any speed, where the fastest super bikes are less fun at slower speeds.
Underated channel this guy can sell hundreds he has more knowledge than other dealers ✌️
Thanks for the kind words! I appreciate it!
I have been waiting for this review for so long! Let's goooo!
Haha! Me too!! Thanks for watching!
Your reviews are 🔥 the proper informative videos we need. 👍
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Thanks for the great review! Best reviews I’ve seen on UA-cam by far
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What is the price difference between the zx4r and the zx4rr?
ZX4R is right under 10k with almost all options, and the ZX4RR is right over 10K with almost all options, just depends on options, or ur price😃
You’re putting out some great, unique content, and the deep dives are appreciated. I have only ever owned Kawasaki, and you seem to be a fan as well. Thanks for the honest videos! So a quick question; size wise, how much larger is the Ninja 650 ( I’ve owned many;) than this new ZX-4R? Is the seating positions at all similar? Thanks again for all you do, even for those of us “ down under” in the states🤓😉👍!
Thanks so much for your kind words, I appreciate the support. So the seating position is... different than the Ninja 650. The Ninja 650 would be more upright, and your hands are more curled in on the ZX-4RR. You also lean more forward. To some the ZX-4RR would be more uncomfortable, but to me it's just different. Probably a little more uncomfortable, but for me, I think I'd be happy to ride this on longer rides without an issue. It's not nearly as comfortable as my Z900RS SE, but of course, that bike is one of the more comfortable bikes in the Kawasaki lineup. If these stick around long enough, I'll try to do a comparison between a few different bikes.
@PeterLoweOne should I upgrade from r3 to zx4r in india? Will it be sensible upgrade for mostly city commuting in city traffic in india?
Wow, a TFT dash that actually HAS a Fuel Gauge !!! Awesome.
In that same area of the dash - on the zx-10r, they use it for something completely useless - unfortunately.
Now we will need to wait and see if the zx-6r will (ever) get a nice TFT dash - and if they will be smart-enough to give us a fuel gauge, too.
Thanks for your great review by the way.
Zx6r has a fuel gauge
@@JagMoto636 Yes, it does (now). Hope that when they finally update it with a TFT dash, that they give it a fuel gauge, because they did not do this on the zx10r. It is present on the other bikes.
@@iamtheiceman oh wow that is dumb as hell
@@iamtheicemanzx10r has a fuel gauge lol what are you saying ?? It’s a click away, you don’t need to stare at your gas every 2 seconds when temperature and lean angle is more important lol
Planning on ZX4RR as my first bike on lower power mode! I can't wait!
This is the only super sport bike that I would consider recommending to a newer rider. It's still going to be a LOT of bike, but you'll never ever have to sell it, this thing is loaded with great engineering and quality components!
Excellent choice! Keep in mind it’s a lot more than just power that cause issues. Don’t do anything suddenly, be that breaking, turning, etc. Supersports are generally very sharp in every way. Also, the first year of riding is the most critical, and the first six months with each bike as well. It’s likely bigger than you might imagine. Take it as easy as you can, and be hyper aware.
So so excited for this. My first bike was a 1991 GSF250 Bandit (lovely rev-happy 4cyl), I've had much bigger bikes but there's such joy in having a small capacity high-revving sportsbike that you can really get the best out of in the real world. I hope this sells well and other manufacturers follow suit. 500cc parallel twins feel so flat and miserable by comparison
I'd love to see this class build out... don't know if it will happen, but I'm a huge fan of these bikes!
This is the bike I've been dreaming of ever since I bought my Ninja EX250R brand new in 2007. I've always wanted a small displacement 4-cylinder. That said... I'm moving away from the US for a couple of years. Really hoping that the ZX-4R still still be available in 2025, when I am back.
How to put the gearbox in racing mode? Need some adjustment on the quick-shifter?
just took deliver today with the zx4rr in Vancouver BC, I can confirm that Canadian version can rev to redline. But, dealer told me that power does cut out on the go, so need to get it flashed.
Yeah, we came to the same conclusion in the video that I made the day after this video. Thanks for watching! You're going to love that bike!
As usual your videos are awesome. I've learnt so much from your vids. Yes im late to the party but now I have zx4rr and 500 ninjas both 40th anniversary so I'd cry if I drop one (new rider also but had crf300l, grom TNT 135). I didn't even realise there was an r version and different from rr
Thank you for this... I actually thought both of them are one and the same.
this bike (zx4r with QS) has exceeded all my expectations! :)
Nice lil' bikes, thanks for your highly appreciated work with this VDO, Peter 🙏
Thanks for your support!
I ordered mine at my local Kawasaki dealer . Can’t wait for it to get here!!
You're going to be SUPER happy with it, and from the sounds of it, you'll be able to sell it for what you paid for it in a number of years. I would LOVE to own one of these!
While I understand the benefits of new tech like the quick shifter up & down, I would still prefer the good old throttle blipping action while squeezing the brake lever on downshifts. Just like in a manual car, I don’t like using the auto-clip function (if it’s equipped with one). Speaking of that, can you turn off the quick shifter on this zx4rr?
Yeah. I'm with you, but to answer your question, yes, you can turn it on and off, which is why I like the quick shifter, it's the best of both worlds.
Incredible content, very rich in details
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thank you for the videos ✨. do you have any info on fuel consumption, please?
I don't... on this type of bike it's really going to vary with riding style. I think we should see some good real world information popping up online soon as real riders begin to take delivery of these now.
Such beautiful bikes
Yeah! Give Kawasaki credit! They nailed it with this bike!
I'm just a little bummed that we don't get the 4R in the US. I'd rather save a bit of cash than have a quick shifter.
We are getting them next year right?
The single R is in the US now.
Great video, but anyone who knows and has been into motorcycle knows that the 4 bangers are the way to go back in the late 80 early 90 they had 250cc 4 cylinder Reving to 20 000rpm I've had the chance to ride one a few times
I was hoping for a large price differential but now I see that's not the case AT ALL
Yeah. I think it had been hinted in some American news articles that this was going to be a cheaper way to get the bike (the R vs. RR) but in Canada, it's just a mild trim difference.
@@PeterLoweOnewhen is the R coming to USA ?
they do rev to 15-16000 but power stop climbing at 11,500 rpm for canada and usa. They are detuned to about 55 hp to the wheel.
Yes, we did a second video the very next day and clarified this. Thanks.
Watching everything I can and so couple of questions here....
1) I did not see anyone above 6' on it yet, but because I am like 6'4" and Ninja for me was great for about 2 hours (just not so wide and it felt like CBR 125 on steroids :-)) so I suppose no problem here as it is wider and slightly taller. Surprise was YZF-R3 which feels really bigger compared to regular Ninja 400
2) Does RR version have USB socket included in price? It should as SE have it, right?
3) What is the useful weight you can put on the bike? Is it around 180kg or such?
4) What are the service intervals?
5) What is the procedure for first 1000 (or 1500km?)? Is it limited on revs (to which level) or you are supposed to use only rain mode (or road)?
do you think you would be able to add an up and down Quickshifter on the zx4r?
You can! I looked into it, it's available as a Kawasaki Accessory.
Can a beginner start on this bike? I was looking at a ninja 500 but I really want the 4cyl engine. I want a bike i can grow into and enjoy for a long time. I dont need the speed of the zx6rr. I think the price for the zx4r is worth it in the ling run. What you guys think?
My dream bikes ❤
Yeah, they're awesome!
Looking forward to one of these after my Ninja 300!! . Thanks for a great review.
You'll love this bike!
Hi mate I’m in the UK and have placed a small deposit on the ZX 4R just gotta wait wait till October- November now .
I think you're going to love it! I was really impressed with these two bikes!
AWESOME BIKE BRO
Thank you
He did not have the data when he made this video. Flash it right out the gate if you want the full power. Full exhaust with no O2 sensor if you want the rest it can give. Flash fixes the top end. Full exhaust moves the whole power band up and substantially reduces weight.
True. When I filmed the 2023 version, we had a lot to learn about the details. We know much more now.
Thank you for this bro really appreciate it 🤝
Thanks for taking the time to watch and say a few encouraging words!
Greetings from Ontario my friend! An excellent concise review, very good to know it does rev till the red line, now if only we can make sure if the peak bhp is the same as our European bros?
I hear you! Nice to hear from the Ontario crowd! I'm from there originally.
have you done any videos on the ZX-25R? quite interested in how it shakes up as a beginner bike vs the Ninja 400 and 650
I film in Canada, and we don't have the ZX-25R here. So I won't be able to film that.
Thanks for the very detailed review. Please check the VIN plate and let us know where Kawasaki is assembling these machines…Japan, Thailand, or Malaysia.
Oooh! Great question. That's something that I don't know. I'll try to include that information in a future video.
I heard it is Thailand.
Great review thankyou 👍
how many miles or km on full tank with easy driving ?
There is nothing like a bright green Kawasaki ninja with a green suit boot glove 🧤
I definitely might get this next I got a Kawasaki ZX6R 2007
I think it's going to be a super fun bike!
I have a 200 cc bike want to upgrade which one would be better zx4r or zx6r ???
Cant go wrong with either but the 6r is only slightly more than the 4, you might as well get the bigger bike and go 6r
I am caught between this bike and a ninja 400. I want to know if they are equally comfortable and upright?
The Ninja 400 is probably a little more upright, and comfortable, but a closer comparison would still be the Ninja 650. Even so, the ZX-4R is still the higher performing bike.
Depends on your preferences, for everyday use I'd buy a Ninja 400, it will be dirt cheap to own and maintain and can still give you fun. But if you're buying bike to have fun, pick the zx4r.
Genuine question, can you change the inline from 2 to 4? I mean is that possible?
By changing. Everything. Yes possible but impractical
can you install a quick shifter onto the zx4r or is the zx4rr the only bike that can have it?
Yes. It's listed as an accessory at www.kawasaki.ca
Hey man I hope you see my comment! Ill take both bikes and I can have my guy pick them up within a couple days if they are both available.
I see your comment. If you're interested, use the link in the description of this video and connect with the sales team at Jim Gilbert's PowerSports. They'll be able to help you. I know the black one is already sold. You'll have to check about the ZX-4RR. It was still in the showroom early yesterday afternoon. Tell them my video sent you!
Finally! Actually I’m into that bike and Is it sold already??
Haha! When I had finished filming these bikes yesterday morning, they were still available for sale. Not sure how long they'll last though!
Does it have the same positive neutral feature that was on the ninja 400 / z400 ?
Yes it does. I love that feature!
I love Kawasaki and Yamaha
Exciting!
They are! These are special!
Wow, been waiting for the regular zx4r. Wanted that instead of the zx4rr. Dealers are telling me that they are not making the regular zx4r for some time. Even on Kawasakis website they do not show the regular zx4r. Not sure how you even got one. You know the price of the regular zx4r?
Can't wait for these to drop in Europe.
They're worth the wait. They really impressed me!
What's the wide tyre that can fit on rear?
Good question, but I’m not completely sure.
Will those clip-ons fit a ZX-6R to make it more upright?
I'm not sure that it would be a simple swap. I would guess that you'd want to go to the aftermarket to get a more upright riding position on the ZX-6R
I like the radial calipers, do they come with radial master cylinders too?
Oooh! Good question. I assumed it does, but maybe not. I'll have to look into that.
No it's axial, pause the vid at 19.47 and if you look it has the metal res on the top. Rather than a plastic separate res that radial would have. I bet one could be got after market from brembo, no problem though.
@@shadowred1980 Oh yeah, I've been looking at their RCS Corsa Corta line recently, but it'd be a shame to have to do day one mods, y'know what I mean?
Ninja 400 is dirt cheap to buy and own in comparison to this and still quite fun. But this, is an amazing bike.
When is the Z400RS ( 4 CYLINDER ) arriving ??? Thanks.
I'd say never, we never saw a 4 cyl 250. But who knows, this is Kawasaki, they love to do some crazy shit.
Where are you located will the black zx4R be available in the US? @
Jim Gilbert's PowerSports is in Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada. I'm hearing that the U.S. may only be getting the ZX-4RR and not just the R.
"these are the only two we may get" 🤣🤣🤣
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Love from Canada! 🇨🇦
@@PeterLoweOne thank you....replying my comment ❤️
Will the zx400R be in the U.S? I’ve only seen the zx400RR in store and online so far
It seems that it won't be for 2023? I film in Canada, and I haven't heard of it showing up there.
Wonder how much the quick shifter is to add to the R
I wonder if Kawasaki will offer that as an option, and if they don't, I'd rather have the Kawasaki factory option that ties into the TFT display than an aftermarket one.
cool so its here in NA (United States too)? All my dealerships are presold but they told me I can come sit on one when the first comes in as I am a short rider.
It's a little tall, but you'll have to see if it works for you. I've sat a number of people at Jim Gilbert's Wheels and Deals on it, and it has worked well for taller and shorter riders.
@@PeterLoweOne my dealership told me they can lower it. I guess with Ninja 400 kit??
@@bakotako It can probably be lowered, but not with a Ninja 400 kit. They're completely different bikes.
So has EPA restricted the rpms to cut down the noise and HP?
So I address that at 1:41 of this video. These bikes are NOT restricted as far as we can tell. I'll address this in future videos as we dig into things, but we film in Canada, and we don't have the EPA, we have a different regulating body, but we were expecting a limit of 11,500 rpm, and it doesn't appear that these bikes have that. So this is GREAT news for us!
@@PeterLoweOne For the US market, I have heard through a friend that Graves Motorsport has dyno'd the US Spec, and it fully revs out.
When is the zx4r hitting the dealership? Are both models hitting at the same time?
These are currently at a dealership. I film these at Jim Gilbert's PowerSports!
@Peter Lowe One where r u located? If not the US, is north America at least getting both the zx4r/zx4rr ?
@@life.of.hang711 I film in Canada. Jim Gilbert's PowerSports is the number one Volume Kawasaki Dealer in the country. They're in Fredericton, New Brunswick. Yes, Canada and the U.S. will be getting both models in this video.
I wanna see the bike from behind. Too see how the 160 tire looks in ratio to the body. Sorry for my english. Thank you
I can do that in a future video. The tire is bigger than the 400, so to my eyes it looks very good.
Would love to see one of these but considering I've not yet seen an R7...
Yeah, they're going to be pretty rare right now. If you live near Fredericton, New Brunswick, there is still have one in the showroom right now at Jim Gilbert's PowerSports!
Is the zx4r coming to the states? I like the look of the zx4r more than I like the look of the double r
Same, I would take the ZX-4RR if that's all I could get, but the ZX-4R is what I'm really after. I don't need the speed shifter or suspension adjustments for street use.
Id like to know what kind of fuel economy this thing gets. A somewhat speedy bike with good fuel economy would be great
I would assume it's pretty good, but riding style, rider's weight and a while bunch of other factors make a big difference in real world fuel efficiency. So it would be tough for me to measure accurately on a test ride.
@@PeterLoweOne I figure that's why I can't find a single answer online. I'm much more interested in real world/spirited riding rather than manufacture numbers anyway
So how much power does the zx4rr make in stock form?
appears to be under 60 in stock trim...
Kawasaki doesn't list horsepower specs, and there is some variance online right now. I know that people are starting to get these on the dyno's and we'll begin to see consistent numbers soon in a quick google search.
@@fastaussie Unrestricted it's putting out 80-82
that's correct@@bfactor. after a pipe and unlocking it should be fun...
Nice comparison. ❤❤
Thanks for watching! I appreciate it!
Which one is better zx4rr or cb650r 2023?
Kawasaki. I'm biased, but I also think it's the right answer.
Thanks mate.
The price of this two bikes are somehow close and would like to hear the opinion of others. Thank you.
Zx4r top speed was 236kmh
Does zx4r have quick shifter like zx4rr
No but it can be an add on accessory
So the brakes they chose for the 4RR are better than Nissin ? Or is this cheap corner cutting they pulled to save money & have the buyer upgrade the brakes?
The radial mounted brakes are the style that you see on higher performing bikes. I would say that, as is, the ZX-4R has better brakes and the components are all there for simple high performance upgrades.
is the rr also available in black?
No, not in Canada.
How much are they. What’s the price difference between the R and the RR ?
I usually don't post prices online because the information stays forever and the prices could change, so you can find pricing at www.kawasaki.ca
Nice bike
Price difference between these two??
Up to date pricing can always be found at www.kawasaki.ca
Why getting only 2? I hope I don’t have to fight to get my hands on one.
They're extremely limited production for the first year. You will likely have to fight to get your hands on one. Or you can just take one of these two at Jim Gilbert's PowerSports. No fighting at all! 🙂
i went to a dealer here in socal (the biggest kawi dealer in california) and they’re only getting 4. even the staff members who wanted the bikes are back ordered until 2025. there’s 25 deposits and only 4 bikes, so, not sure how that’ll work out.
@@KellerFkinRyan Yeah. I expect these to sell easily. They're better than I expected, and they fit what a lot of us have wanted in a sport bike. Kawasaki hit it out of the park with this.
Money talks 😂
@@PeterLoweOne a little disappointing for me, I wanted one as a first bike, but I dont want to wait multiple years for that. hopefully this wont be a super limited 3 year run or something, and I can get my hands on one in like 6 years or so when the hype has died down a bit.
Did i miss it? what is the horsepower rating?
Horsepower ratings aren't given by Kawasaki, and I've seen a wide variance of information online. I know that people are starting to get these on Dyno's so we'll see consistent results soon with a quick google search.
What is the difference between zx4rr and zx4r ?
www.kawasaki.ca can show you the difference quicker and more accurately than I can describe here in the comments. I do talk about the differences in this video too.
Thank you ❤
Do you know if they will have a naked version of it? Great review!
I wouldn't think so. Keep in mind there is no naked version of the ZX-6 or ZX-10. These are true super sport bikes, so they don't have the geometry that easily translates to a naked bike.
if you want something similar in a naked version, get an fz6.
@@KellerFkinRyan I don't think that's as similar as you suggest. This is a special bike the FZ6 is more traditional and less special.
@@PeterLoweOne I agree, however I can't think of something that has an inline 4 engine with somewhat naked bodywork, a non-supersport riding position, and an approachable amount of power. I think if someone wanted an inline 4 and a naked bike, that'd be the one to get.
@@KellerFkinRyan It will be interesting to see if they use this engine in other bikes. It would be interesting for sure.
Great video! Do you know if the KQS quick shift can be turned on and off? I love the RR color scheme but will usually always be doing clutch shifts so was wondering if it could be turned on and off?
Great question. The default position from the factory is to have it off. You need to turn it on in the menu system. When I do the video on the display of this bike, I'll be sure to show you how that works. Thanks for watching! Feel free to subscribe!
I wonder if both have the same power/ power curve?
They're supposed to be identical.
@@PeterLoweOneThanks for your quick answer! So ecu flashing/tuning should give the same results 😊 Anxious to get my hands on one😅 And "de-numb" it to its full potential like in Asia-europe.
@@fmjammofull So I can't speak to the ECU flash, or tune. I'm just guessing at this point. But that would be what I would begin to research, google, etc. It's a logical solution that puts the responsibility for extra noise etc onto the customer who approves the tune, instead of on the manufacturer who has to abide by the laws in order to sell the vehicle.
@@PeterLoweOne Graves Motorsports got it.
Guess I'll have to move from the US to Canada to get the 4r.
Reportedly the USA version which also revs to "16000" is actually 15200 as the tach is a little dishonest. ECU flash brings real revs to 16500 but indicates 17350 on the dash. Shades of Yamaha R6. I would assume Canada model is exactly the same wrt this detail.
Yeah, Like I said in the video, we're still learning, but this doesn't appear to be restricted, so that's great news!