I have so much anxiety & stress about the pests on my orchids! The end of this video made me feel alot better though. Thank you for all that you share with us!!
450? Wow! I remember when you had 100 on your balcony! I thought 100! Now I have 200 and that is my limit. I admire you that you can take care of 450. No way too many! You are amazing. Thank you.
I've been using your recipe for non toxic diy oily solution for year and a half in my battle against mealy bugs and spider mites and it works absolutely great for me. Thank you very very much, Danny! 💖
Hi miss Dani, pests are inevitable for me, so outbreaks of meally bugs, spidermites, scales are a super headache, I try your oil solution on scales, it worked especially on spidermites. Here in Philippines harmful insecticides are a must and I do too unfortunately and it takes time and effort for us. Thanks for the vid😄, It helped me, it's just that for us, it still depends on environment and seasonal insects and pests😂
I found mealybugs on my Paphiopedilum. I sprayed it with ethanol-based hand sanitizer. Plant didn't seem to mind, but the mealybugs didn't like it at all.
My cat died from the dust of denaceauous earth your right about the lungs! Thanks for mentioning your right don’t need to be aa doctor to have some common sense! Your a great teacher ms orchid I like your style very informative
Hi Danny. My problem was mealy bugs. Constantly q-tipping the leaves was an impossible and unsuccessful task . Finally decided to use your soap, paraffin oil formula and worked great. But did take a month and half and couple of repeat applications and... this year didn’t have one outbreak at all. Where I used to rid the oil with simple soap solution, this time I didn’t and seems the oil didn’t affect my collection. Also am a slow learn but getting there and finding that watering with RO water is best when in doubt. Spring is just around the corner. Thanks for your many videos and always looking forward for your postings. You should patient your soap paraffin oil formulation. Is the best 😬
Leaf shine spray is brilliant! So much easier then paint brush application technique I’ve been using around the mealy bugs. Always worried about the temp change of alcohol when I use it for them. Awesome option to try...especially with the time I will save with a collection around 200 🤣
😊 just ordered to try out 💃 but was ok with brush vs q-tip technique currently. It’s easier with getting into crevices but with collection so big it’s still a time suck 😂 definitely excited to try it for time save 😊
I’m thinking it will too 😂 sorry to confuse tho. Plus I believe you have been using this technique for quite a while now so it’s nice to see an update on how it’s been working. Thank you for making things easier for the rest of us 🤗
I have a thrip infestation that I have been fighting for 6 months, as well as maybe something else, I’ve lost so many orchids. By the time I realized what it was it was too late. All my orchids are suffering. Any suggestions?
The sun started to come out in the last few weeks for spring, as did thrips on my new phals- am trying the leaf shine trick to see if it will hold them at bay until it's warm enough to properly treat my whole collection (hopefully!) Thanks!
Great video. I would love to see one about what you talked about with growing Orchids outside. I have killed every Orchid I have purchased. I didn't even know they were ok for me to grow outside.
I used the baby oil solution last year while my orchid was growing a flowet spike. After using that solution sll the baby buds dried off and the spike didnt produce anything. Now it has a new spike with gorgeous flowers though
I have thrips in my collection, and I've been controlling them with a combination of parafin oil and mechanical removal, but I'm worried that they'll just hide and reproduce in the media. Dani, do you manage to get rid of thrips just by spraying superficially (but thoroughly)? I imagine with a collection of 400+ orchids it's not feasible to repot all of them to get rid of thrips in the media...
Thank you sooo much for this video. You’re the best! I always wondered how you did it. I am so scared for my orchids to touch each other. I have over 100 myself. Once you find pests, can I ask you how long before treating them another time?
@@DannyTillotson what I’ve learned is that we should treat for pests weekly for a few weeks till we see no more evidence of them. You MUST rinse off the leaves after 2-3 days of spraying them.
Hi Danny! Thank you for the detailed explanation ! What do you use for the velvet leaf plants like jewel orchids and African violets? Also, have you tried leaf shine based on silicone and not paraffin ? Thank you!
Thanks for this. I' have unsuccessfully tried to grow orchids a couple of times. Indoor pests are always a problem for me. I live in Zone 2 and Have a number of "outside" plants that come in for the cold months. Lots of bugs come along.
It may also help to take those plants to the shower and shower them off really well when you bring them in. Make sure to dry the crowns off well or put a fan on them. That will probably eliminate many of the bugs you might bring in. Then you can follow up with Danni’s spray to get any that survived.
Thank you soo much for your tips!! I am so desperate my orchid leaves have yellow rings/spots. With this video I found out it might be because of the spider mites. Ive had it for about 4 years it wasn’t even my plant they were going to throw it away… every year it give me flowers. I am soo in love with this plant like you can’t imagine ❤️. But this year is my first time that it has this yellow spots I am soo sad a tiny leaf is growing like every year but unfortunately it has yellow spots on it too grrr. Wish me luck!! I am going to use all your tips.
Hi Dani, Love your videos, thanks so much for all of the info! I have a mealybug infestation.... I started out a few months ago by "quarantining" the 6/7 I had infested but the mealy bugs seemed to multiply overnight, and more and more orchids are now in quarantine. The mealybugs have also jumped onto a ponytail palm my husband and I have had for 25+ years. HELP! We put the palm out on the back steps as the weather in MD is warm now. My question is, how often and how long do I treat for the mealybugs? When do I know it's time to give up? My phal. orchids are in varying stages. They [mealybugs] have seemed to go for "higher ground" and have moved to the tips of the stems but for the ones that have what appear to be healthy buds, I'm trying not to snip the stems. Just need some advice, can send in picture {s} if it will help THANKS
I have a lot of orchids that are in my garden, but something seems to be eating my leaves 🍃 what do you suggest I should spray on them If you need any photos of the plants I can send some
Hi, there you go ua-cam.com/video/cjUSPLXThfU/v-deo.html if you type in the search bar 'missorchidgirl' followed by the subject you are intersted in you will find many of my videos on tons of subjects! I may have recorded an answer for most questions actually 😉
@@MissOrchidGirl Thank you for your suggestion! It really helped. Thank you for your videos, I actually sometimes binge watch your videos, because I find them so interesting!
I use compressed air cans which work great. They just blow the water right off the immediate area and the tube nozzle allows you to get it in tight places.
Hi Missorchidgirl, I own a Dendrobium dawn maree ( bought it as a mature plant) that is rootless and possibly dying. How can I save my plant and could you please make a complete care video for it. I am a beginner with orchids and really need your expert guidance
Hey, Dani! Thank you so much for the video! Can you please, please give me a brand of that spray - I want to search for it, because I suppose I have some pests in my orchids and I want to treat them, but as it is winter now I am really scared of crown rot! This spray seems to be a perfect choice! Thank you!
Thank you for this video Miss Dani> I have been using neem oil but i think I will try this out. My biggest issue tends to be Aphids because my orchids are sharing space with topicals such as perennial hot peppers, banana tress and citrus tress. I sometimes get outbreaks of spider mites. Do you think I could use this solution on my other plants?
Hello! I have a huge thrips issue, I already lost 2 of my orchids. I saw your comment and I'd really like to ask how did your thrips issue went when you sprayed with the solution mentioned in the video. Thank you and I hope all your plants thrive!
I would love to have a large orchid collection but I don't have space for an orchid collection. 6 is my collection size, that's about as big as I can accommodate. They sit on my kitchen windowsill, I might be able to squeeze in one more but that's about it.
Hi Dani! What I don't understand is if we should spray our plants even if they don't have any bugs. I don't have bugs buy I don't want any, so what do I do? Is that treatment with oil safe enough to use as a routine every ... I don't know, for example every month?
Would it be a good idea to take a big plastic plate and cut a hole in the middle and cut a slit from the edge of the plate to the centre hole so to put the plate under the leaves so not to get the oily soap on the roots and medium? Maybe not the best idea because of transfer of diseases and pests ?
Hi Danny, I wanted to try your DIY paraffin oil solution. But as I browsed online shopping sites I found that there are different kinds of paraffin oils- for lamps, for skin and some simply labelled as "liquid paraffin". Which one did you use for you DIY?
Hi I'm wondering this too? Did you find the answer to this? I bought some paraffin today and it says contains kerosene so I'm a bit worried. Anyway I've made a solution today and tested it on some very cheap houseplants I have. I care about them and I think this will work but I need to wait before using it on my expensive monstera albos. Fingers crossed 🤞
My collection has not gtown because of endless lockdowns and the fear of buying stuff online I decided to grow species that orchid weevils dont really attack like ceologyne and native dendrobiums. Orchis weevils are native and tend to be introduced when i buy bulbophyllums that has been infested with them
I wish I had watched your videos before I got rid of all my springtails!!! So bummed..saw them and thought they were mealy bugs. Thanks to you, I now know I had springtails! I'll use your tips to repopulate the orchid as I have another plant that has them still....WHEW!! Thanks Dani!!
I watch allyour videos and have gathered lots of information and tips on orchid growing. Iam from kerala.. India.. and we have a climate which is best suited for growing orchids. A have a good collection of dendrobiums. They do flower often. But recently all my flower spikes just dry off during the bud stage itself.I feel it is some pest doing it. Can you help me with this problem. Will the paraffin oil spray work for this.Now this is bothering other orchid growers too.. in the neighbourhood. I would be grateful if you could give me a solution to this problem.
Hi. I see you used leaf shine on some of your leaves to control pests. How do you remove it when it's done the job? Is there a solution to take it off?
Question: With the Leaf shine spray, are those safe for non-orchid plants like philodendrons/monsteras/syngoniums? Or do they react like the jewel orchids?
I would love to find a leaf shine with paraffin oil but haven’t had much luck online. I’m here in the US, would someone be able to drop a link or even just a product name of something similar? Thanks!!
I'm in Canada and I bought the Johnson's Baby Oil in a pink lid and pink labelled bottle. It says the ingredients are mineral oil and perfume but the type of mineral oil is actually paraffin oil based on my research. Seems to be working well for my battle with thrips so far!
Are Mineral Oil and Paraffin Oil the same? Anyone knows what the exact product to purchase in the US? Is Johnson's Baby Oil a suitable substitute? Thanks!
No info on soil bugs and how to fix problem (especially since roots are involved..guessing oils should not touch roots since they need to breath and eat, etc…. ☹️😞
Hi, 'soil bugs' are most probably beneficial springtails. Epyphitic mixes are usually too dry for fungus gnats and snails are not really bugs.. So I think you're alright 😊
Hi, I looked it up and it appears to have a substance called benzisothiazolone that is toxic to aquatic life and may produce an allergic reaction. I don't think it's leaf shine, my product has no toxicity warning on it, this Compo one is marketed as insecticide! So I would be cautious!
@@MissOrchidGirl You're lifesaver. I don't like toxic substance at home too. Especially, when all my orchids are in living room. Thank you very much. 😍😊
I have so much anxiety & stress about the pests on my orchids! The end of this video made me feel alot better though. Thank you for all that you share with us!!
450? Wow! I remember when you had 100 on your balcony! I thought 100! Now I have 200 and that is my limit. I admire you that you can take care of 450. No way too many! You are amazing. Thank you.
I've been using your recipe for non toxic diy oily solution for year and a half in my battle against mealy bugs and spider mites and it works absolutely great for me. Thank you very very much, Danny! 💖
Yaay happy to hear! 🧡
If I had to pick the most helpful video on UA-cam for houseplant care, it's this one. Thank you!!
Hi miss Dani, pests are inevitable for me, so outbreaks of meally bugs, spidermites, scales are a super headache, I try your oil solution on scales, it worked especially on spidermites. Here in Philippines harmful insecticides are a must and I do too unfortunately and it takes time and effort for us. Thanks for the vid😄, It helped me, it's just that for us, it still depends on environment and seasonal insects and pests😂
I found mealybugs on my Paphiopedilum. I sprayed it with ethanol-based hand sanitizer. Plant didn't seem to mind, but the mealybugs didn't like it at all.
My cat died from the dust of denaceauous earth your right about the lungs! Thanks for mentioning your right don’t need to be aa doctor to have some common sense! Your a great teacher ms orchid I like your style very informative
I'm so sorry to hear! 😔 Hugs! 🧡
Hi Danny. My problem was mealy bugs. Constantly q-tipping the leaves was an impossible and unsuccessful task . Finally decided to use your soap, paraffin oil formula and worked great. But did take a month and half and couple of repeat applications and... this year didn’t have one outbreak at all. Where I used to rid the oil with simple soap solution, this time I didn’t and seems the oil didn’t affect my collection. Also am a slow learn but getting there and finding that watering with RO water is best when in doubt. Spring is just around the corner. Thanks for your many videos and always looking forward for your postings.
You should patient your soap paraffin oil formulation. Is the best 😬
Haha thanks Thomas, but it's not my idea, it's just a DIY version if horticultural oils 😉
Leaf shine spray is brilliant! So much easier then paint brush application technique I’ve been using around the mealy bugs. Always worried about the temp change of alcohol when I use it for them. Awesome option to try...especially with the time I will save with a collection around 200 🤣
Glad to hear it helps out! 🧡
😊 just ordered to try out 💃 but was ok with brush vs q-tip technique currently. It’s easier with getting into crevices but with collection so big it’s still a time suck 😂 definitely excited to try it for time save 😊
Oooh I misread that lol sorry hope it works better than the brush then 😅
I’m thinking it will too 😂 sorry to confuse tho. Plus I believe you have been using this technique for quite a while now so it’s nice to see an update on how it’s been working. Thank you for making things easier for the rest of us 🤗
I have a thrip infestation that I have been fighting for 6 months, as well as maybe something else, I’ve lost so many orchids. By the time I realized what it was it was too late. All my orchids are suffering. Any suggestions?
The sun started to come out in the last few weeks for spring, as did thrips on my new phals- am trying the leaf shine trick to see if it will hold them at bay until it's warm enough to properly treat my whole collection (hopefully!) Thanks!
Super great video. Awesome tips. I enjoyed watching. Thanks for sharing 🤗💐
Great video. I would love to see one about what you talked about with growing Orchids outside. I have killed every Orchid I have purchased. I didn't even know they were ok for me to grow outside.
Oh wow, I'd never given pests a thought. You have great videos and super plants/ flowers.
I used the baby oil solution last year while my orchid was growing a flowet spike. After using that solution sll the baby buds dried off and the spike didnt produce anything. Now it has a new spike with gorgeous flowers though
I have thrips in my collection, and I've been controlling them with a combination of parafin oil and mechanical removal, but I'm worried that they'll just hide and reproduce in the media. Dani, do you manage to get rid of thrips just by spraying superficially (but thoroughly)? I imagine with a collection of 400+ orchids it's not feasible to repot all of them to get rid of thrips in the media...
Hi, I don't actually have thrips in the medium, not sure if they inflitrate the substrare actually 🤔 so just foliar treatment did the trick for me!
Dani, what is the name of the spray product you used for the thrips?
Such a great video, thanks! And love your collection! 😍
Very thorough & informative. Thank you for this~
Thank you sooo much for this video. You’re the best! I always wondered how you did it. I am so scared for my orchids to touch each other. I have over 100 myself. Once you find pests, can I ask you how long before treating them another time?
Did you find the answer to this question? I'm wondering this too? 🤔
@@DannyTillotson what I’ve learned is that we should treat for pests weekly for a few weeks till we see no more evidence of them. You MUST rinse off the leaves after 2-3 days of spraying them.
Hi Danny! Thank you for the detailed explanation ! What do you use for the velvet leaf plants like jewel orchids and African violets? Also, have you tried leaf shine based on silicone and not paraffin ? Thank you!
Thanks for this. I' have unsuccessfully tried to grow orchids a couple of times. Indoor pests are always a problem for me. I live in Zone 2 and Have a number of "outside" plants that come in for the cold months. Lots of bugs come along.
It may also help to take those plants to the shower and shower them off really well when you bring them in. Make sure to dry the crowns off well or put a fan on them. That will probably eliminate many of the bugs you might bring in.
Then you can follow up with Danni’s spray to get any that survived.
Thanks for your pest routine.🧡👊🏻🇨🇦
Thank you soo much for your tips!! I am so desperate my orchid leaves have yellow rings/spots. With this video I found out it might be because of the spider mites. Ive had it for about 4 years it wasn’t even my plant they were going to throw it away… every year it give me flowers. I am soo in love with this plant like you can’t imagine ❤️. But this year is my first time that it has this yellow spots I am soo sad a tiny leaf is growing like every year but unfortunately it has yellow spots on it too grrr. Wish me luck!! I am going to use all your tips.
I am veery glad not have had any pests worse than aphids in my collection so far😅
Can oil treatments be wiped onto the leaves instead of spraying ?
Hi Dani, Love your videos, thanks so much for all of the info! I have a mealybug infestation.... I started out a few months ago by "quarantining" the 6/7 I had infested but the mealy bugs seemed to multiply overnight, and more and more orchids are now in quarantine. The mealybugs have also jumped onto a ponytail palm my husband and I have had for 25+ years. HELP! We put the palm out on the back steps as the weather in MD is warm now.
My question is, how often and how long do I treat for the mealybugs? When do I know it's time to give up? My phal. orchids are in varying stages. They [mealybugs] have seemed to go for "higher ground" and have moved to the tips of the stems but for the ones that have what appear to be healthy buds, I'm trying not to snip the stems. Just need some advice, can send in picture {s} if it will help
THANKS
Please do a video about what to do with jewel orchids after bloom.
I have a lot of orchids that are in my garden, but something seems to be eating my leaves 🍃 what do you suggest I should spray on them
If you need any photos of the plants I can send some
Hi. Can you please do a video on how to check orchids for diseases and pests?
Hi, there you go ua-cam.com/video/cjUSPLXThfU/v-deo.html if you type in the search bar 'missorchidgirl' followed by the subject you are intersted in you will find many of my videos on tons of subjects! I may have recorded an answer for most questions actually 😉
@@MissOrchidGirl Thank you for your suggestion! It really helped. Thank you for your videos, I actually sometimes binge watch your videos, because I find them so interesting!
Thank for Yours videos. Lately I use hairdryer to eliminate water after Your antipests sollution. Of course very carefully. 😊
I use compressed air cans which work great. They just blow the water right off the immediate area and the tube nozzle allows you to get it in tight places.
@@renesonse5794 i think i ought to look at my husband's stuffs. 🤣
Hi Missorchidgirl, I own a Dendrobium dawn maree ( bought it as a mature plant) that is rootless and possibly dying. How can I save my plant and could you please make a complete care video for it. I am a beginner with orchids and really need your expert guidance
Hey, Dani! Thank you so much for the video! Can you please, please give me a brand of that spray - I want to search for it, because I suppose I have some pests in my orchids and I want to treat them, but as it is winter now I am really scared of crown rot! This spray seems to be a perfect choice! Thank you!
Yep it's called Spring Bladglans.. I think.. this is the name on the can I hope this is it!
I found Pokon Leaf Shine is based on vegetable oils
@@MissOrchidGirl Than you, Dani! You are awesome!
@@marinaz6224 Thank you!
What is your thought on this baby oil pest spray and other houseplants?
Thank you for this video Miss Dani> I have been using neem oil but i think I will try this out. My biggest issue tends to be Aphids because my orchids are sharing space with topicals such as perennial hot peppers, banana tress and citrus tress. I sometimes get outbreaks of spider mites. Do you think I could use this solution on my other plants?
How often do you spray the paraffin mixture on your plants during the summer?
I found thrips in my phal area yesterday so this video really helped
Hello! I have a huge thrips issue, I already lost 2 of my orchids. I saw your comment and I'd really like to ask how did your thrips issue went when you sprayed with the solution mentioned in the video. Thank you and I hope all your plants thrive!
I would love to have a large orchid collection but I don't have space for an orchid collection. 6 is my collection size, that's about as big as I can accommodate. They sit on my kitchen windowsill, I might be able to squeeze in one more but that's about it.
Hi Dani! What I don't understand is if we should spray our plants even if they don't have any bugs. I don't have bugs buy I don't want any, so what do I do? Is that treatment with oil safe enough to use as a routine every ... I don't know, for example every month?
Dani what do you think about the crushed extracts of red chili pepper? My pests here are black ants.
Would it be a good idea to take a big plastic plate and cut a hole in the middle and cut a slit from the edge of the plate to the centre hole so to put the plate under the leaves so not to get the oily soap on the roots and medium? Maybe not the best idea because of transfer of diseases and pests ?
Hi Danny, I wanted to try your DIY paraffin oil solution. But as I browsed online shopping sites I found that there are different kinds of paraffin oils- for lamps, for skin and some simply labelled as "liquid paraffin". Which one did you use for you DIY?
Hi I'm wondering this too? Did you find the answer to this? I bought some paraffin today and it says contains kerosene so I'm a bit worried. Anyway I've made a solution today and tested it on some very cheap houseplants I have. I care about them and I think this will work but I need to wait before using it on my expensive monstera albos. Fingers crossed 🤞
It should be for the skin😉
For skin so cosmetic grade paraffin. It also could be labeled liquid paraffin. I know amazon has some.
My collection has not gtown because of endless lockdowns and the fear of buying stuff online
I decided to grow species that orchid weevils dont really attack like ceologyne and native dendrobiums.
Orchis weevils are native and tend to be introduced when i buy bulbophyllums that has been infested with them
I wish I had watched your videos before I got rid of all my springtails!!! So bummed..saw them and thought they were mealy bugs. Thanks to you, I now know I had springtails! I'll use your tips to repopulate the orchid as I have another plant that has them still....WHEW!! Thanks Dani!!
What did you do to get rid of them?
I watch allyour videos and have gathered lots of information and tips on orchid growing. Iam from kerala.. India.. and we have a climate which is best suited for growing orchids. A have a good collection of dendrobiums. They do flower often. But recently all my flower spikes just dry off during the bud stage itself.I feel it is some pest doing it. Can you help me with this problem. Will the paraffin oil spray work for this.Now this is bothering other orchid growers too.. in the neighbourhood. I would be grateful if you could give me a solution to this problem.
Hi. I see you used leaf shine on some of your leaves to control pests. How do you remove it when it's done the job? Is there a solution to take it off?
Question: With the Leaf shine spray, are those safe for non-orchid plants like philodendrons/monsteras/syngoniums? Or do they react like the jewel orchids?
Good question. Did you find the answer to this? I'd like to try the leaf shine on my monstera albos and philodendrons too!
Beautiful plants😍👌🍀👍big like👍
I cannot find the aerosol paraffin leaf shine. Where can I purchase it in the USA?
How you can make your orchids bloom at all timr
Does anyone know what kind of spray she used in the video for the orchids?
I would love to find a leaf shine with paraffin oil but haven’t had much luck online. I’m here in the US, would someone be able to drop a link or even just a product name of something similar? Thanks!!
Spring Bladglans is the name on her can. Not sure if it's available in the US.
I'm in Canada and I bought the Johnson's Baby Oil in a pink lid and pink labelled bottle. It says the ingredients are mineral oil and perfume but the type of mineral oil is actually paraffin oil based on my research. Seems to be working well for my battle with thrips so far!
Thanks!
Have you tried natural oils (ie. oilve or coconut) rather than industrial Johnson's stuff?
Yes, vegetable oils are very heavy and risky in comparison to mineral oils ua-cam.com/video/8axf7L1o8dI/v-deo.html
Are Mineral Oil and Paraffin Oil the same? Anyone knows what the exact product to purchase in the US? Is Johnson's Baby Oil a suitable substitute? Thanks!
Johnson’s baby oil is mineral oil with fragrance. You can find mineral oil at Walmart. As for paraffin oil I’m not sure. Try amazon.
Thank you for the tips, very interesting
Has anyone in the US been able to find a comparable aerosol leaf shine spray?
What is the ratio of water and oil
I have the red spider mite on my noid oncidium 😭
Mam m from India . Here much of orchid has present 😊
No info on soil bugs and how to fix problem (especially since roots are involved..guessing oils should not touch roots since they need to breath and eat, etc…. ☹️😞
Hi, 'soil bugs' are most probably beneficial springtails. Epyphitic mixes are usually too dry for fungus gnats and snails are not really bugs.. So I think you're alright 😊
@@MissOrchidGirl They fly. Btw, you have a WONDERFUL CHANNEL!!!💞🥰👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻💐💐. Never thought you’d reply to a person like me. Wow!
Them spider mites gangsta
Is there anyone who used Compo Orchideen-spray? It should be anti pests and it looks like leaf shine. 🤔
Hi, I looked it up and it appears to have a substance called benzisothiazolone that is toxic to aquatic life and may produce an allergic reaction. I don't think it's leaf shine, my product has no toxicity warning on it, this Compo one is marketed as insecticide! So I would be cautious!
@@MissOrchidGirl You're lifesaver. I don't like toxic substance at home too. Especially, when all my orchids are in living room. Thank you very much. 😍😊
royalfamily
I hate Broad mites ☹️
Thank you so much for the videos. Will we ever see your face?
I've never hated anything in my life as much as I hate spidermites