[Baldur's Gate 3] 5 FUN Multiclasses for Baldur's Gate 3!
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
- Hello and Hey! Today we're going to be messing around with 5 different multiclass options for Baldur's Gate 3. From simple and straightforward to more complex and outside of the box. We have some fun options for you today.
Still waiting on how multiclassing spellcasting classes together actually works. Don't want to spend too much time theorycrafting something just for the speculation to be completely off.
0:00 Hello and Hey!
0:07 Disclaimers!
0:51 Dev Interview
1:58 Fighter/Barbarian
4:05 Paladin/Bard
6:31 Ranger/Fighter/Rogue
9:04 Warlock/Sorceror/Paladin
10:40 Monk/Rogue/Druid/Paladin
13:39 Thanks for watching! - Ігри
Your vocabulary is just vast enough so it sounds nice but doesn't make you sound pretentious, I love it
As a forever DM for the a few different groups, these look quite familiar lol. Triple charisma caster multiclasses are absolutely terrifying - especially when paladin smites get thrown into the mix.
Really excited to actually be able to give some of these broken things out in BG3 though 🤩
Haha. Same to a much lesser extent for me. I know a handful of people that are interested in playing, but if I don't run the game, it'll never happen. Haven't really gotten to stretch my legs as a player.
Not a replacement for a good session with friends, but at least with this you can do all the degenerate min-max power gaming you want without taking something away from anybody else.
@@Ghostzapper For real, that's a mood. Playing as a DM is better than not playing at all, or maybe I just comfort myself with that lmao
But yes for real, making a broken ass character without any fear is something I'm legitimately looking forward to about bg3
😌
what does the leveling progression look like for Sorcerer/Warlock/Paladin? Unsure which class to start with.
Giving serious thought to Warlock 9 Arcane Trickster 3. Not optimal but I bet it's gonna be fun
Can’t pick a sun class for your multi class in bg3
Sub class*
Wizard+Tempest cleric is gonna be a blast 😄
I keep wanting to draw up a Wizard/Cleric, but then get distracted by everything else I wanna cook up!
Your combo will be WILD if they do end up letting multiclassed casters keep up with spell level. Chain Lightning or Destructive Wave. So dang strong.
Would this be Wizard 11/ Cleric 1 or 6/6, 8/4?
Keeping in theme. Way of Shadows Monk 6/Assassin Rogue 3/Gloomstalker Ranger 3
As a bonus action you can teleport around to shadows, get 2 attacks in an action, a number of shadow/illusion spells fueled by Ki (so short rest to get them back)
Assassin Rogue gives the auto-crit on surprise and 2d6 damage there and a ton of skills/expertise
Goomstalker Ranger grants an extra attack on the first round that also does an extra D8, darkvision/boosted darkvision if you already have it, Hunters Mark and a fighting style.
Also, combat aside, this is a HELL of a skill monkey and effective rogue for traps/locks and, potentially, persuasion
The only thing giving me pause, and I do mean me playing it, not the concept itself. Is its reliance on being in dark places (for the teleport). There are already a lot of confirmed locations in Act 1 that are dark, but I would hate to go 6 Levels into Shadow Monk and not be able to use that feature for a lot of moments in the broader game. Which I obviously have no idea the frequency. But that's what is giving me pause! The unknown.
And I know I could just re-spec if needed, but there's so many things I want to play, too. So I probably need to stay off that screen as much as possible... lol. Sounds really fun, though! Good luck with it.
@@Ghostzapper With the Shadow Monk, at level 3, for 2 Ki use the following spells; Darkness, Dark Vision, Pass without Trace and Silence. Also the Minor Illusion cantrip if memory serves.
Now, you wouldn't be able to see through the magical darkness sadly, but if you are just trying to get around/hide it would be pretty useful. Gloomstalker also makes you invisible while in darkness to those that could normally see through it. Nice little bonus ^_^
@@Tillman581 I'd be on the lookout for items that grant a use of Misty Step to sorta accomplish the teleport things of the Shadow Monk, too. Don't get the spells you mentioned, obviously.
That's a price to pay for getting something fairly similar (if much more limited) to a 6th level feature, though.
Just sorta thinking 'out loud' with this comment. Sorry, haha.
@@Ghostzapper I cannot speak for the full game but in early access, shade from trees and other shadows out in the world appear to count as 'Dim-light' which would imply you can technically walk into a shadow in daylight and be able to tp to another shadow. I'm banking my whole playthrough on that factor lol.
8 Monk (Way of the Shadow) - 4 Ranger (Gloomstalker) is what I'm going to rock.
Ranger 2 (for Hunter's Mark), Druid Spores 2 (for Spreading Spores): you can get +2d6 extra damage per attack. Options:
A) Add Rogue 3 Thief (for Fast hands) and dual-wield, and you can attack 3 times per turn (often adding +3d6 sneak attack on top). Going Ranger up to lvl 5 gives you extra attack (thus 4 attacks total per turn while dual-wielding).
B) Fighter 2 allows action surge (1 extra attack(s) once per short rest). Fighter 3 Battle Master's Riposte can potentially give up to 4 extra attacks per short rest. As a perk, also gain a second passive fighting style (e.g. Defence). Fighter 5 gives extra attack (not cumulative with Hunter 5's)
So, I might try Astarion R3,H2,D2,F5.
Also maybe cool:
Barbarian 5 Berserker (for Frenzied Strike, Enraged Throw), Rogue 3 Thief (for Fast Hands). Pick Great Weapon Master (GWM) feat.
While in Frenzy, each turn you get: Attack, Extra Attack, Frenzied Strike, and Enraged Throw. Make the first attack Reckless Strike to get an advantage on all.
Due to GWM, If you crit in one of the first 3 attacks (26.5% chance or 27.6% if Halfling if started with Reckless Strike) or if you kill something, the 4-th can be another attack.
Add Fighter 3 Champion to make crit chance on first 3 strikes 46.8% or 48.6% if halfling.
Bonus: Fighter 2+ gives an action surge. This gives (once per short rest): Attack, Extra Attack, Attack, Extra Attack, Frenzied Strike, and Enraged Throw. Since you will likely crit, GWM likely will make the last one into an Extra attack.
So my main will likely be B5,R3. Maybe respect later to B3,R3,F6.
Flurry of Blows does work multiple times in a round provided you use an extra action to attack. The extra attack from a single action at lvl 5 doesn't count.
For the last one, maybe replace Paladin 2 with Ranger 2: Hunter's mark adds +1d6 per hit and can be re-cast at no extra cost. Also, Hunter gets to pick Two-Weapon Fighting Style :)
Could just pick up hex from warlock, so theres a bit of bit of redundancy there. But if you want 2 weapon fighting, then yes.
My Blade Warlok/Oathbreaker Paladin after stealing an eye and some lice ridden hair. "I am extremely likeable and if you disagree I will vivisect you!!"
LOL
Haste should only apply a hasted action which is only one attack. So the gloomstalker can only get a 7 attack nova round.
Edit: Apparently larian has house ruled haste to apply a full action; that's crazy, effectively action surge on demand for 10 rounds.
Yeah, just ridiculous. And if they do the thing with multiclassing that starts letting casters add levels of different classes together without falling behind on spell levels (like people are guessing, but I'm not sold). Then tough to consider bringing too many martials along at all. ;_;
@@Ghostzapperthe maintaining of spell level (not just slot) progression through Multiclassing is insane. It's the in built-in balance mechanic of the whole feature no point in going single class caster at all.
You can also twin a Haste on a Scor, so giving 2 full martial classes another attack for the 10 turns is nuts.
@@Steve121m its a full action not just attacks, you can cast spells with it.
Alchemy is confirmed a thing. I wonder if you can crank out potions of speed? Sure it only last 3 rounds but doesn't require concentration.
i want to make a half orc berserker/champion or battlemaster, kind of leaning towards champion since the extra crit goes well with orcs savage attacks but the battlemaster superiority dice mechanics sounds fun
You'll have a great time either way!
Worth noting that the Warlock's Pact of the Blade is not the same as a Warlock Hexblade, which will not be in BG3 at launch. The closest thing is the Lifedrinker Eldritch Invocation at level 12, but by that point you can't really do much multiclassing. If Larian ever does add more subclasses like the Hexblade into the game though, I'd recommend running a Hexblade Warlock 4/Oathbreaker Paladin 8. That way you automatically gain double your Charisma modifier on melee damage rolls, as well as providing your Charisma modifier as a bonus to all fiends and undead nearby. (Very useful since Pact of the Chain Imps can attack in BG3, and you can have Wyll/Gale adding to your army of heavy hitting cannon fodder.)
EDIT: Nevermind, Pact of the Blade is like a mini-Hexblade in BG3! I was working off of my DND knowledge here lol
It doesn't have all the goodness of Hexblade, but Pact of the Blade will use CHA instead of STR or DEX for weapons in the 'release' version.
The way your wrote the comment, I'm unsure if that's what you were contesting, or just differing on the viability of the substitution. Either way, fair play. I like the suggestion.
@@Ghostzapper Oh, my bad! I had no idea that they changed how Pact of the Blade works in BG3, I should have looked into that more beforehand. In that case, you have even more freedom for your Warlock patron! This could even be a great build for Wyll to use... Assuming party members can become Oathbreaker Paladins that is. If not, Paladin of Vengeance also works.
I would also like to add that multi-classing at level 12 is viable because respeccing characters is possible for cheap in-game at virtually any point. You could theoretically run the whole game leveling paladin until 11 for example, then at level 12 respec to paladin 9 / warlock 3, for only 100 gold. Something you can't do in tabletop
Hi, really liked the video. I wanted to ask if you think a dex fighter/rogue multiclass would be viable. I’ve been thinking of using finesse weapons and the dual wielding feat and taking 8 fighter/4 rogue or 6 fighter/6 rogue. The fighter would be a champion or battlemaster and the rogue would be a thief
Heck yeah. You'd be a blender with all those attacks. Sounds like a fun, versatile character!
@@GhostzapperThanks so much for the feedback!😊
Two question: 1. can you cast while Wearing Heavy armor in the Paladin/ warlock combo?
2. Can you cast while wearing a shield as a paladin?
1. Yes, you can cast while wearing Heavy Armor you are proficient with.
2. Up to the latest EA patch, you were still able to cast with "no free hands". Whether they roll that into the War Caster feat that D&D requires remains to be seen. But likely will continue to WORK.
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YOU ALREADY KNOW.
Unfortunately you can only multi class 1 other class in bg3 and can’t choose a subclass for your multi class pick
@@ToHonorKnowledge Oof. That's unfortunate. Where's that info available?
@@Ghostzapper in the game, full release is out now
@@Ghostzapper there’s also some weird things like if you start wizard and go fighter, say wiz10 fight2 for the heavy armor bonus from fighter, you can’t get it, you have to start as fighter to get that proficiency then go wizard
Alternative "Tough" human, Barbarian with 16 con for the start 1/2 + Druid of moon circle 10/11
Paladin 2 + Warlock 10
Cleric of storm 2 + sorcerer 10 (dragon magic on lightning or storm sorcery)
I like 'em. Super tanky once you're setup on the Barb/Druid.
Juicy smites for the Lockadin.
And what I'm sure will be a powerful, popular pick in Tempest/Sorceror. Hell, if they ended up adding caster levels for spells you can learn. Would be possible to do it with Chain Lightning. Which, is disgusting.
I'm planning to play Monk 5 OH/ranger 2/rogue 3 thief/fighter 2
the idea is to maximize hunter's mark damage from ranger by attacking as much as possible using flurry of blows. Should be 8 attacks with a 2nd action, or 5 without, 16d6/10d6 per round respectively.
I thought about the same type of stuff with going ranger for hunter's mark, or dipping to Warlock for Hex. I do hope we get to do flurry of blows twice and it's not locked out 'until next turn'. I did see your other comment. Was that confirmed to require an additional action on top of the 'additional' bonus action?
Otherwise Don't forget about the helm that gives an extra bonus action when you're below half HP, too! If you're feeling risky and wanna start a fight like that.
@@Ghostzapper not confirmed per se, just based on the wording of FoB, "Immediately after you take the Attack Action on Your Turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two Unarmed strikes as a bonus Action."
There is no round restriction on FoB as far as I'm aware, just that it can only be done after an Attack action, and that it costs a KI + Bonus Action.
Also definitely messing around with the Helm of Grit and Loviater's low hp bonuses early on before getting Thief :>
@@deathripperx1 Outstanding! Hope we get the most ridiculous, favorable outcome, haha.
I would assume that this works in BG3, as they have simplified the game a bit, but this doesn't work in 5e RAW.
Hunter's mark only procs on weapon attacks, and while monk's unarmed strike counts as a "melee weapon attack", that's different from a "weapon attack" (aka an attack with a weapon).
EDIT: Started doubting my knowledge and looked into this. At least according to a certain Crawford's tweet, melee weapon attack is indeed just a subcategory of weapon attacks.
TLDR; I was wrong, carry on
@@karisaparolampinen It does work in 5e raw, according to the lead DnD rules designer, Jeremy Crawford, in one of his tweets: "Every attack in D&D is either a weapon attack or a spell attack.
If an attack isn't one of those types, it's the other.
An unarmed strike isn't a spell attack. It is therefore a weapon attack."
as well as "An unarmed strike counts as a weapon attack, so hunter's mark works with it."
Excuse me, what would you recommend for a two weapon fighting build for most attacks in a turn? I'm new to 5e. I was thinking Fighter 8/Rogue 4.
Yours is a good one, have 4 attacks every turn starting from Fighter 5/Rogue 3! Which I think is the most you can consistently get without resources.
Other options, if number of attacks is purely the main focus, would be like... Gloomstalker Ranger 5/Fighter 2/Thief 3/Monk 2. If someone uses Haste on you, or you consume a Potion of Speed before. Then on the first turn of combat, if you action surge and dump both of your Ki points.. you could attack 13 times on a turn, (the last 4 being unarmed strikes, however).
I'll let you decide the practicality of that, LOL. Only get 1 Ability Score Improvement with that "build". Think Fighter 8/Rogue 4 does what you want as good as anything else that will get you that many attacks. 4 ASIs will feel real nice, too.
@@Ghostzapper Thank you very much for the input.
Moon druid 10 - Barbarian 2 !
Takes a bit of setup, but that'll be quite the tank!
3 fiend warlock, 9 bard
Would be helpful if you said the order to level them up and the problems that a non level 12 character will have.
Definitely hear you, but these also weren't meant to be guides. Is there a specific combo you'd like an order for?
Want to be a spellblade.
I wonder if they'll make ASI's tied to character level rather than class level. 🤔
Also possible. Big buff for dipping, rip to Fighter and Rogue's extra ASI if those aren't preserved. Interesting to think about.
1 Ranger (heavy armor)/ warlock hexblade pact
Stat for warlock. Can only do it in this game cause they took out the attribute requirements..
What split of levels are you thinking for that? Sounds fun already.
@@Ghostzapper 3 Ranger (favored enemy that gives heavy armor)/Gloomstalker/ Warlock Fiend (Get hp when killing enemies) with hexblade pact
Invocations- Devil sight to see thru magical darkness and invisible to creatures with dark vision.
Melee or eldritch blast since based off Charisma.
Charisma allows for dialog options
Just sounded fun to try
(could even dip 5 ranger for extra attack and finish with warlock)
If you pick drow you get insane increase to Darkvision range lol with Gloomstalker adding another 30ft
@@wickeddrac7489 I like it. Hope it's as fun as it sounds!
@@Ghostzapper My life outside is over once this game comes out as I am sure it is for many others hahaha
Does it matter which class you start as? Example, you have Ranger/Fighter/Rogue.
I know in actual TTRPG DnD it does but was curious if in BG3 does it carry.
@@MrKollossal Yeah. Same proficiency rules as tabletop. Depends what you want to start with for skills!
@@Ghostzapper ah okay so you recommend the list as in the video? Start with Ranger?
@@MrKollossal Don't think it has any weight on the effectiveness of the character as to which one you start with. Just a preference thing for when you re-spec!
It's a build that takes a little while to get rolling, so you can approach from any class as your starting point. As you'll probably want to respec it a couple times from Level 1 to 12.
@@Ghostzapper Understood. I appreciate the time and work.
warlock + paladin = padlock :D
lol, I like it
Im going to go gloomy 5, ass 3, fight 2, spore 2
I like it. Your enemies will not.
kinda dislike W5S5P2
make more sense for me if it is Paladin 6, and 3W 3S
could be wrong tho
still appriciate it ! dont get me wrong :3
No offense taken at all. Gotta play what you like. I will ask you what you're after with that split, though! Gives up a decent list of things.
@@Ghostzapper i think its the difference of a generally playstyle
6Pala gives the aura, 3 Warlock gives charisma-based attacks, at this point, sorcerer seems kinda not fitting at all… hmmm, unless i am doing some E.Blast (or maybe fireball?) on distance before it clashes
@@Ghostzapper :3 my bad i guess, all my playstyles are kinda melee based
But still, with this setup i do have a spellcaster level of 6, which gives some good spells i think
Wild magic sourcerer and wild magic barb?
Hmm. Random stuff going off everywhere all the time would be a blast. Shame about the anti-synergy of Barb's effects happening upon Rage, and not being able to cast or concentrate on spells.
Did you have anything in mind to skirt around that?
@@Ghostzapper idk if bolstering magic is in BG3, but have that up if possible start with a quicken misty or a shield/absorb elements if I can't get in range, move to melee and go ham until rage drops, then go back to spells to help get close again. Basically use magic to hit things.
I’m lost on what you’re saying…. 8/4 on one character? Or level 8 and 4 characters???????
On one character, yes! That's the number of levels you would take in a given class. Character Level 12, but with 8 levels of Fighter and 4 levels of Barbarian, for example.
@@Ghostzapper ok thank you. Just learning