I remember how Canon got a lot of flak when it released the 5Ds and 5DsR. So many big vloggers at the time went on ranting about it being Canon's pathetic way of answering Sony's feature packed cameras which were becoming really popular at the time. They even said Canon was going for quantity rather than quality. Years later. These cameras are now the cheapest ways to get very high high quality that can give even the latest cameras a good run for their money. BTW, these UA-cam channels, like Tony and so many others, thought us to go by specs first before getting out there and actually use the camera. Canon is like your boring mother. Sometimes you don't know why she does a lot of things. Then eventually you realize, she is right, always has been.
Yea but considdering that the R5 costs about 5 times what you can get a essentially new 5DR for. Combine that with the extra you have to pay for the new RF lenses. Unless you use it for its autofocus and extreme dark pictures. The 5DR is the clear winner
Using my 5dsR since mid 2015 release date, good investment. Has been my sole camera for causal commercial architecture shoots (always on a tripod & tilt shifts). Fear the shutter will give up one day on a shoot, so far, never any issues. Looking at the R5 now, where the stills king will become a backup / second camera. The GFX systems have been so tempting, but for a new allrounder with great ergonomics, and knowing the Canon camera systems, I think the soon to be R5 / Even the 5dsr will be with me for another 4-5 years.
@@stevenmeansphotography3861 Yes of course. For a high res sensor with no IBIS, I would at least double the focal length for the shutter speed. Eg for 50mm lens I would shoot at 1/100s
Not living off my camera, but been using the 5DSR ever since launch and as a pure consumer I’ve been having a ball, may it be travels or hikes or what have you, a little hard to get things right with the 85 f1.2 but ever so pleasing when it happens, I don’t have clients but I do have friends, and what some time on photoshop and RAW files from this camera do are just incredible, I’m a fan of SLR cameras myself, still occasionally use my F3 with the growing variety of films now more than ever, especially Fuji, but using the old Nikkor 50 1.4 on a digital camera, namely the 5DSR is just incredible
I already have the 5Ds, I do a lot of bird photography and the moire resistance at Pixel level with feathers is a winner. The ergonomics on a long shoot make a big difference to me, so the 5D wins there. The 5ds weight means I can hand hold my 85mm 1.2 (no IS) at 1/50 all day. But! low light shooting is not so much fun, still good, very good but noise is creeping in at iso 3200 and lifting detail from shadows is not as good as the others. The R5 is a beast, only the ergonomics with smaller body and dials is an issue and I noticeably get a tired hand after a time. The A/F is amazing, nothing to add to that it's near perfect, which is the single most important feature. The R I haven't used but I guess it's a very good travel camera with it's light weight, but beyond that for what I do has reached a limit. I have always liked the image quality and colours from the 5Ds and it's better than the R5 in good light. With all the above said and not having the R, the body I always tend to pick up first is the 5Ds.
Hey I followed your great advice and got the 5DSr . I'm still figuring out the settings, but I feel it's going to do the job I want. I have been a video guy for a long time, and the A7III has been great for a hybrid, but as I do more photos, I got some complaints from clients that the photos where not good enough, so I watched yours and others vids, and decided on the 5DSr, with no regrets. thanks for your insight.
the sony a7iii is perfectly capable of taking great photos, it has better autofocus, better dynamic range, better low light performance, I mean your gaining only in resolution, probably you'd be better to invest in some serious glasses
The bottom line is, if you don't need video you can still make a living with either the 5DsR or the R5 in 2021! I don't know what the R5 cost but I purchased my 5Ds new from B&H Photo a year ago for $1299 with free battery grip and I already had L lenses so no need for adapters or Rf lenses which is something else to think about.
Nice video! I like the way you speak slowly. For me 5DSR all the way. If the rumored R5-S comes out with a high MP sensor, I might upgrade. But until then image quality is king, and 5DSR has the crown. I know how to focus already, don't need the bells and whistles at the expense of image quality.
Hi Johnny, you've pointed out a fact that use of RF lenses is important to enable R5 producing pictures of higher image quality than 5DsR on EF lenses.
What I'm doing with any camera I can try?. I'm trying highest iso possible, then take images in low light conditions everything, animals, children that are completely unpredictable myself. 5DsR surprised me with everything. 12800ISO is great. Yes there is sometimes a kind of moire visible but easy to control , remove in app. 5 predefined AF programs works great even with action. Unfortunately LV is not so useful like in 6d mk2 . But the biggest surprise was Video quality. This camera takes so detailed and beautiful full frame video 1080 that most 4K devices can only dream about. There is no visible artefacts, grain is beautiful, like taken on 35mm negative. Most opinions about this camera are mistaken.5DsR t is not only for studio, landscape, well controlled condition. You can take any kind of photography with it under any condition. Possibility of cropping images is almost unlimited but to get the best quality best lenses is must have. But even 24-105 f4L with its lower resolution than 24-70 f2.8L have a new live. 5DsR will show to any photographer things that does not exist. Without a loupe;-) Can You compare Video quality? Unfortunately I can not do it right now personally.
Great video, I have a 5dsr and use it mainly for wildlife and bird photography. It’s amazing when the conditions are right and with a bit of luck! It’s getting too heavy for me now (65 yrs old) so I am planning an R5. I suspect it’s far superior for action shooting and lighter too, but I doubt I will prefer an evf
Don’t have the resources to drop for a new lens line, I have a small quality collection of EF lens so a 5DSR is a no brainer for me. Plus I have 5Dmk lll already and possibly eyeing a mklV before Canon decides to cut the product line. Besides, the image quality and pixel peeping on the DSR is fantastic
I believe you've done a great job comparing the 3 cameras, well done. For me it's the old one for so many reasons, if I was young I'd probably go for the R5. I have a lot of old excellent Canon lenses and am not going to change all that. My favourite cameras that I still treasure are my Linhof L with interchangeable 4X5, 5X7 inch standards, My wooden 5X7 Deardorf and my rosewood 4X5 Wista. You can't use one of these and not understand to the core the basics of photography. I treasure my 4X5 and 5X7 chromes. When analog photography died I wanted a large format digital back, but they were ridiculously expensive and not very good so a total flop. The 5SDr is the closest I'll get to a large format digital back. Not interested in speed. Always have been a firm believer in "Chi va piano va sano e va lontano" Today seems people are mostly into camera speed. For me follow focus if fun but not art. For video fun a $150 4k 20mp action camera and maybe a micro 4/3. If dogs run free, why not me Across the swamp of time? To each his own, it's all unknown If dogs run free. If dogs run free, then what must be Must be, and that is all. Bob Dylan
There's absolutely no doubt in my mind: The 5dsr is my choice. I'm photographing stills. I don't need video. I'm a photographer - not a videographer. I looove my 5dsr.
Picked up the R if I would have already had EF lenses the sdrs would have been amazing to try. Not sure if it's worth the investment this late in the game
I’ll take a 5DsR all day every day over the other two. If I need video I’ll use an actual video camera (Red, Arri, Sony Venice)
I remember how Canon got a lot of flak when it released the 5Ds and 5DsR. So many big vloggers at the time went on ranting about it being Canon's pathetic way of answering Sony's feature packed cameras which were becoming really popular at the time. They even said Canon was going for quantity rather than quality.
Years later. These cameras are now the cheapest ways to get very high high quality that can give even the latest cameras a good run for their money.
BTW, these UA-cam channels, like Tony and so many others, thought us to go by specs first before getting out there and actually use the camera. Canon is like your boring mother. Sometimes you don't know why she does a lot of things. Then eventually you realize, she is right, always has been.
Yea but considdering that the R5 costs about 5 times what you can get a essentially new 5DR for. Combine that with the extra you have to pay for the new RF lenses. Unless you use it for its autofocus and extreme dark pictures. The 5DR is the clear winner
Using my 5dsR since mid 2015 release date, good investment. Has been my sole camera for causal commercial architecture shoots (always on a tripod & tilt shifts).
Fear the shutter will give up one day on a shoot, so far, never any issues. Looking at the R5 now, where the stills king will become a backup / second camera. The GFX systems have been so tempting, but for a new allrounder with great ergonomics, and knowing the Canon camera systems, I think the soon to be R5 / Even the 5dsr will be with me for another 4-5 years.
Lol dude. Never. Still use my 5d mark 2 weekly. With 150k clicks. No issues. They are rock solid.
Can you shoot handheld with 5dsr
@@stevenmeansphotography3861 Yes of course. For a high res sensor with no IBIS, I would at least double the focal length for the shutter speed. Eg for 50mm lens I would shoot at 1/100s
i've heard of 600k shutter life on 70d
the camera was kept clean and the owner never shot fast series (!!!)
Not living off my camera, but been using the 5DSR ever since launch and as a pure consumer I’ve been having a ball, may it be travels or hikes or what have you, a little hard to get things right with the 85 f1.2 but ever so pleasing when it happens, I don’t have clients but I do have friends, and what some time on photoshop and RAW files from this camera do are just incredible, I’m a fan of SLR cameras myself, still occasionally use my F3 with the growing variety of films now more than ever, especially Fuji, but using the old Nikkor 50 1.4 on a digital camera, namely the 5DSR is just incredible
I already have the 5Ds, I do a lot of bird photography and the moire resistance at Pixel level with feathers is a winner.
The ergonomics on a long shoot make a big difference to me, so the 5D wins there.
The 5ds weight means I can hand hold my 85mm 1.2 (no IS) at 1/50 all day.
But! low light shooting is not so much fun, still good, very good but noise is creeping in at iso 3200 and lifting detail from shadows is not as good as the others.
The R5 is a beast, only the ergonomics with smaller body and dials is an issue and I noticeably get a tired hand after a time. The A/F is amazing, nothing to add to that it's near perfect, which is the single most important feature.
The R I haven't used but I guess it's a very good travel camera with it's light weight, but beyond that for what I do has reached a limit.
I have always liked the image quality and colours from the 5Ds and it's better than the R5 in good light.
With all the above said and not having the R, the body I always tend to pick up first is the 5Ds.
What camera did you use for this video? Color palette looks retro.
Definitely going for the 5DSR !!!
solid choice
Hey I followed your great advice and got the 5DSr . I'm still figuring out the settings, but I feel it's going to do the job I want. I have been a video guy for a long time, and the A7III has been great for a hybrid, but as I do more photos, I got some complaints from clients that the photos where not good enough, so I watched yours and others vids, and decided on the 5DSr, with no regrets. thanks for your insight.
You can't go wrong with the 5DSr files!
the sony a7iii is perfectly capable of taking great photos, it has better autofocus, better dynamic range, better low light performance, I mean your gaining only in resolution, probably you'd be better to invest in some serious glasses
The bottom line is, if you don't need video you can still make a living with either the 5DsR or the R5 in 2021! I don't know what the R5 cost but I purchased my 5Ds new from B&H Photo a year ago for $1299 with free battery grip and I already had L lenses so no need for adapters or Rf lenses which is something else to think about.
Nice video! I like the way you speak slowly.
For me 5DSR all the way. If the rumored R5-S comes out with a high MP sensor, I might upgrade. But until then image quality is king, and 5DSR has the crown. I know how to focus already, don't need the bells and whistles at the expense of image quality.
Excellent vids. Thank you~ 70D, 5dMKII and 5dsr. Too old to change a thing now~ ;-)
Hi Johnny, you've pointed out a fact that use of RF lenses is important to enable R5 producing pictures of higher image quality than 5DsR on EF lenses.
What I'm doing with any camera I can try?. I'm trying highest iso possible, then take images in low light conditions everything, animals, children that are completely unpredictable myself. 5DsR surprised me with everything. 12800ISO is great. Yes there is sometimes a kind of moire visible but easy to control , remove in app. 5 predefined AF programs works great even with action. Unfortunately LV is not so useful like in 6d mk2 . But the biggest surprise was Video quality. This camera takes so detailed and beautiful full frame video 1080 that most 4K devices can only dream about. There is no visible artefacts, grain is beautiful, like taken on 35mm negative. Most opinions about this camera are mistaken.5DsR t is not only for studio, landscape, well controlled condition. You can take any kind of photography with it under any condition. Possibility of cropping images is almost unlimited but to get the best quality best lenses is must have. But even 24-105 f4L with its lower resolution than 24-70 f2.8L have a new live. 5DsR will show to any photographer things that does not exist. Without a loupe;-) Can You compare Video quality? Unfortunately I can not do it right now personally.
Eos 5drs wins the battle , it’s the beast thanks for clarity
Great vid. I agree. I love my 5ds. It's fantastic. It's a beast.
How's the battery life on the 5dsr?
@@amorbukid5899 excellent. battery life is much like the 5d mark 4.
Great video, I have a 5dsr and use it mainly for wildlife and bird photography. It’s amazing when the conditions are right and with a bit of luck! It’s getting too heavy for me now (65 yrs old) so I am planning an R5. I suspect it’s far superior for action shooting and lighter too, but I doubt I will prefer an evf
@@mondujar279 it's definitely is a heavy camera. I hear ya on the evf. Not a fan of it at all.
Don’t have the resources to drop for a new lens line, I have a small quality collection of EF lens so a 5DSR is a no brainer for me. Plus I have 5Dmk lll already and possibly eyeing a mklV before Canon decides to cut the product line. Besides, the image quality and pixel peeping on the DSR is fantastic
I believe you've done a great job comparing the 3 cameras, well done. For me it's the old one for so many reasons, if I was young I'd probably go for the R5. I have a lot of old excellent Canon lenses and am not going to change all that. My favourite cameras that I still treasure are my Linhof L with interchangeable 4X5, 5X7 inch standards, My wooden 5X7 Deardorf and my rosewood 4X5 Wista. You can't use one of these and not understand to the core the basics of photography. I treasure my 4X5 and 5X7 chromes. When analog photography died I wanted a large format digital back, but they were ridiculously expensive and not very good so a total flop. The 5SDr is the closest I'll get to a large format digital back. Not interested in speed. Always have been a firm believer in "Chi va piano va sano e va lontano" Today seems people are mostly into camera speed. For me follow focus if fun but not art. For video fun a $150 4k 20mp action camera and maybe a micro 4/3.
If dogs run free, why not me
Across the swamp of time?
To each his own, it's all unknown
If dogs run free.
If dogs run free, then what must be
Must be, and that is all.
Bob Dylan
Ben detto.
Let it be known, I am Mr. McClung’s 1000th subscriber.
DUDE! Thanks for the SUB!
Sorry for the wrong name, bro. I was thinking about someone I sent your vid to, named Hart while I typed, and instead of your name, I typed Hart. Haha
No problem, my guy. Cheers!
you missed the point. i'm only interested in the final print . i like to print large 13x19 and crop is the r5 , 45 mp keep up with 5ds 50 mp
Wow. Thanks for the love!!!!
Dude, my pleasure. How is the 30" display working for you?
Image quality 5:51
Final thought 7:26
Great video Johnny!
Thanks my friend!
There's absolutely no doubt in my mind: The 5dsr is my choice. I'm photographing stills. I don't need video. I'm a photographer - not a videographer. I looove my 5dsr.
Comparing a camera launched in 2015 with a new camera? Is that useful?
You really can't put video stuff in a 5DS R evaluation. Not being negative, just that such wasn't any portion of why this camera was designed.
I love the color grading 🎥! would you mind sharing a little bit of your grading process?
Yes! I'll plan on doing a video on my grading process.
I absolutely went with the 5ds r.
I would love to play with the r5, yet the means aren't there yet.
5dsr ergonomics best for me. the r5 body too small and the lenses are huge.
You didn’t show eos r quality that’s why I can’t give you thumbs up… I was looking for that information
BestBuy sent me a 10% off any single item and 24 month financing. Only question is do I drive 2 1/2 hours to Delaware to save the sales tax ?
5DsR biggest bang for fashion portraits
How's the battery life on the 5dsr?
@@amorbukid5899 don't know . Still trying to get one
@@amorbukid5899 decent. two batteries last a long day of shooting for me and my batteries are getting old.
me too. something about those 5dsr files.
@@jdg6336 Got it and very happy with it.
Picked up the R if I would have already had EF lenses the sdrs would have been amazing to try. Not sure if it's worth the investment this late in the game
5Dsr, отличная, неубиваемая камера💪, тем более, что цена☝ очень манит ее приобрести👌😁Интересно🤔, а Canon до сих пор ее выпускают?📸
Do you need an adaptor for R5 to all the EF-L lenses?
Yes. With the adapter, they behave the same as a native lens.
@@NoahStephensthat's not really true. Lenses for mirror less do not re-expand the image to fill the full frame, since they don't have to.
I thought you were gonna say ridiculously small EOS R ('cos' it is).
I ordered a few days ago the 24-70 and the 85mm of sigma art for the canon r5. I hope it was a good decision
Yeah that's my go to combo in general. 28-70 on one body and and an 85mm on the other. ROCK ON!
Solution ! Buy the 5D mark IV
one tip
dont raise your shadows in these videos. it looks quite terrible
I think he is trying for a film simulation.
No more annoying soundtrack.. it is useless.