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Destiny Lore - The Iron Banner and The Iron Lords (Extra Lore)
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- Опубліковано 23 лют 2016
- The Iron Banner is a monthly feature in the crucible but did you know that there's a story behind all of its members and the guardians who fought for it? This episode of extra lore goes back to the days of the Battle of the Six Fronts and talks about how the legendary Titans, Hunters and Warlocks formed the Iron Banner.
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I love these videos. Destiny has such a rich story that is sadly sometimes neglected and scattered. So much that I love about Destiny is its incredible lore. Knowing all about the history and putting these weapons/armor into context is exactly what I need.
true story... just the god damn grimoire :(
10:16 it all makes sense now fell winters lie was that his shotgun was aculally a sniper rifle
this was excellent, I thought I knew most of this story but you added new components that I missed!
You're welcome, by the way
Byf is the Vaatividya of Destiny and I'm loving it!
Wow.. Hearing about The Iron Banner and The Iron Lords who started it.. Made it more entertaining. I was truly fascinated and taken into new lore, by your narrative, Byf. Awesome. Cheers mate.
I'd love to see you do extra lore on the Warlock and Hunter orders, Warlock mostly though. It would be interesting to learn about the different idealogies Warlocks align themselves with
Dear Byf, this video was beautiful. Please make more of this, I'm sure there are a lot of guardians who would love to hear Destiny's story with an amazing narration like this. I really hope to see and know more. Thank you!
your lore videos help fill the void of story and reason to playing this game. I love having a meaning in the game, not just mindlessly grinding for gear every few months. I wanted to say thank you for giving me purpose in this game.
Just did my first Iron Banner. I'm mostly casual, so after 2 years of play my Guardians were finally strong enough to compete. Some of the best Crucible I've ever played. and I was 285 against 305s and 315s.
I want to thank you, Byf, for your lore videos and crucible videos. especially the first one on the 'poker-face'. it's helped a lot.
Looking forward to info on the new 9 Iron Lords. Watch your Six, Guardian.
Great Video! You discuss the lore of Destiny in a way that also engages the player back to where, how and why the story matters in the game. It really makes the videos and the game itself better. Thanks Byf!
+Jared Boucher Also keeping with the PVP tournament style extra lore a Trials of Osiris video might be interesting although there is probably not a lot of lore on that either.
man, to be able to play alongside you Byf... I cannot describe in words how much of an honor that would be!
Byf, for lore, I suggest you discuss with Myelin games. He's come up with a bunch of Destiny lore.
+Ian Yoo g'day :) thanks for the shoutout!
+Myelin Games it's not a terrible idea. If we can co-ordinate between Australian time and British time i'd be ok with doing it.
+My name is Byf your awesome
+My name is Byf I am keen :) Would be great to chat some lore, even if it is not used for a video. DM on twitter?
+My name is Byf +Myelin Games
Thank you, gentlemen. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to scream into my pillow in joy.
Bungie how about for the first time you bring in a Iron Banner Exotic Quest Line where we have to reforge Rads Sword
This guy is byf, he is not bungie, your comment is literally pointless
+Erupt wow, thanks for taking time out of your day for replying. Good Job.
love the banner lore. great video dude!
An episode about the vault of Glass would be cool
13:45, this is why I sub and follow on twitter. When you go in, and try to make us feel YOU GO IN!!!! Another fantastic video Byf. Can't wait for more!
Absolutely fantastic story byf. I wish that was told in the storyline of the game. Fantastic lore and can't wait for more
Id love to see some lore on warlocks and some of their great feats
I think the Iron Lords and the Iron Wolves were separate people. The Iton Lords we're all killed due to infighting. The wolves came together under the red dawn (the infighting between them) to form a group that wouldn't turn against each other like the Iron Lords. Its backed up by the names of the weapons. Iron Lords: Felwinters Lie, Ghelons Demise, Skorris Revenge. Iron Wolves: Colovances Duty, Nirwens Mercy, Bretomarts Stand.
+DimondMine27 Maybe the infighting was a result from a difference in ideals yielding the two splinter groups; Wolves and Lords. Perhaps the current in game Iron Banner is for not only honour of the light but for the remembrance of the clash between the Lords and Wolves?
+Sam Barnes that's a new spin on it I like that theory
+Sam Barnes it's very much possible that could be it
+iHarriet Tubman not really my theory. I got it from Meylin Games. Check out his video it describes it much better then I do.
+DimondMine27 Myelin's stuff is great. But sadly even he admits as much as I do, we have nothing but theories and speculation.
Love it! Great job, Byf - always love hearing your take on these tales.
How about a hunter and warlock lore
really loving the lore byf thanks
love it BYF , keep doing these vids.
Please cover the lore on The Last Word, Thorn, and The First Curse, and their wielders, Dredgen Yor, and Shin Malphur. I know several youtubers have made good lore videos about this already, but your explanations, conjectures, and narrations are the best. Would love to hear your take on this story.
It it interesting that Byf was saying hopelessly "we may never know the story of Iron Banner"; that makes me more excited for rise of iron.
it would be cool to see an episode maybe on the falling out of zavala, shax, and Saladin. I guess that's assuming that there is enough existing lore. I don't know if that could be pieced together but if anyone can do it... it's you byf. thanks for the content. you make my day a little better every time I see your videos.
praedeth? also, i love your work so much! you do such a well job and i hope (but i know) you keep on making more videos! theyre just so helpful XP
+Delinera, Flower Princess Preadeth's Revenge wasn't a iron banner weapon and Praedeth wasn't a lord rather one of Kabr's companions and Praedeth's Revenge was also the vog sniper .
Hello Byf, i`ve played a heroic weekly strike with you this week. It was Omnigul :-) Keep on your good work
First of all love the extra lore videos. Wouldn't mind seeing one on the tales of TLW and thorn.
Great video Byford :)
Awesome video it makes me appreciate iron banner even more thank you My_Name_is_Byf.
coming back to this now that siva is a thing uncovers alot of new info
I love your vids!
You & Ms watts are my go to for Destiny.
already know all about them but its a very nice video dude
thank you so much for these videos
Love the vids! I was wondering if there is any Lore to be explored on the rest of Earth aside from the Last City - if there's anything to be explored in the removed stuff like Mumbai and Old Chicago? Keep up the amazing work!
Felwinter's lore then: This dude mighta been a bad guy who lied about things?
Felwinter's lore now: Pain.
Amazing content!!
Lore on warlocks and hunters. I'm assuming you are working on that since you did Titans :). Great work!
u got the best destiny lore videos
More more more love it keep up the good work
Great job as usual! You should repost this with the upcoming dlc on its way...
Jagi
Radegast
Silimar
Jolder
Gheleon
Efrideet
Perun
Skorri
Felwinter
Timur
Bungie really knows how to pic names
Great vid bro ;)
Perun's fire was a sick fusion rifle in year one, I used to use it all the time, severely underrated!
real interesting listening to this way after we know more about the Iron Lords.
A Lore video about the members of the Vanguard and how they came to be might be a cool subject.
great stuff!!!!
Am I the only one who is going to say this? That Stormtrance doe... Nice man, just nice!
Anyhow, that explains a lot about the Iron Banner. I always thought of Iron Banner as some weird thing that supposed to prove whether or not you have learnt something from the Vanguard and Shaxx. When you see Saladin, think of the Mortal Kombat theme in the background. lol Test your might in the Iron Banner.
Radgastes blade should be an exotic sword that would be sick
+Isaac Ford Bruh that would be epic too have as a Titan.
+Gavin McRae I know right, how do think u would be able to get it
Iron Banner quest chain given by Lord Saladin. Must complete it before the week is up and you have to be at least 300 Light to do it.You go to whole new destinations like Six Fronts that were assaulted by the Fallen and the actual battle site for the Twilight Gap. Maybe even go one on one with an AI Lord Saladin as the boss where you have to fight him with one of your Exotic Swords. Must be done solo, no fireteam.
I bet the Iron Lords never red-barred
because they had CBMM :/
I smell a whole bunch of short films that bungie needs to put out on the lore.
+Justin Hiryu I'm rather happy with byf
Fraisins *slow claps*
Justin Hiryu Oh?
Omg when I watched your videos last time it was during dark below.. and I really regret it xD
this is beautiful
If there hasn't been a Lore discussion about the Vault of Glass, about Atheon, times conflux. I feel that would be an interesting topic of where this machine originated. If you do read this Byf, I have always been one for the Vex so a suggestion like this doesn't sound out of the blue. Also, you've made a vid on the Fallen, the Hive (maybe a few with the lore behind Oryx and the Ahamkara) and the Cabal, so the only other main story faction of darkness is the machines of the Vex. If you read this Byf, I also would like to say you are doing a great job and would like to wish for more Lore in the future, but at your pace.
Great video Byf. Also, was K-Dub letting his cat play in these games?
Awesome. When is the next part of the book of sorrows coming out?
I'd love some Iron Banner PVE. No rehash material, new missions with bounties for a week.
I'm a Dark Souls Fan, and I seriously think Byf has another channel talking about Dark Souls lore. I really believe I've heard him before.
Could u do hunters pls this was really good I loved this video so much
Weapons of Sorrow episode? Necrochasm, Thorn, etc, or maybe the first battle for the Moon, our first encounter with Crota
Side note
I know that this vid was published a long time ago but the rise of iron confirms Saladin is the last iron lord and that they died either crusading or protecting and locking away Siva
Hi there Byf! Great video as always, and very inspiring. Maybe this has been suggested before, but how would this sound for a lore video: The Vanguard Leaders (and class mentors, of sorts), Zavala, Ikora and Kayde.
I mean... these are the guys that we, as Guardians, are supposed to look up to, our inspiration to keep the fight up. But there´s not much that we really know about them. TTK unveiled some more details here and there, but there are still so many mysteries about their past, their deeds and accomplishments or how they formed the Vanguard to begin with. For example: was Zavala an Awoken before he became a Guardian, or was he "transformed like the rest of them? How did Ikora form her Hidden? What is the famous Vanguard Dare that they put Kayde through to make him stay as the Hunter Vanguard leader?
Personally I think it´s a letdown that we know so little about them in the state that the game is now.
There is a pair of Exotic Guantlets in Destiny 2 that suggest that Felwinter wasn't actually Felwinter. That he was made to lie by a Ghost, and that he was an Exo who had knowledge of the Deep Stone Crypt and its ways. Very interesting.
WARLOCKS! WARLOCKS! WARLOCKS! But seriously please do an extra lore on warlocks.
How about a little bit of extra lore about The Vault of Glass?
lol who else is here in Year 3, going back to look at what we thought the Iron Lords were
Regarding Extra Lore topics, I'm quite curious to know more about The Battle of Twilight Gap, specifically its relation to the mysterious Ana and Elsie Bray, Ana who is speculated to be a Gunslinger of some legendary prowess who died there, and her sister Elsie, who others believe to be the Exo Stranger. But given the Stranger's relevance to the FWC and the immense amount of potential there, I'd understand if that's being held off for its own more in-depth video.
My Name is Byf, could you do a detailed video about the Vault of Glass?
this lore makes me feel honored to fight in iron banner.
i would really liketo hear about the hunter class(if there is anything). i feel like theymight have some pretty cool history. like how pahanin went down with kabr in the vault of glass and how there cloaking tech was "borrowed" from rasputin
nice vid
Good on you mate.
that 6-man at the end though damn
How about lore on shaxx and commander Zavala? That would be awesome since I'm a Titan and I love the titan stories in destiny! PS good job on lore!
There's some more lore I know about for lord saladin: him, shaxx and zavala were all the titans (as you can see) and they fought together in the battle of twilight gap, but sth happened beetween them, so zavala and saladin are still good friends, but shaxx has a problem with those two now. (Found in saladins grimoire card and in gjallahorn's card)
I wish there was more story about the other iron lords, like we know of lord paladin and we know of radegast and felwinter, but I wish we had some stories about the others. I do love the little extra lore bits we get from the weapons and such just wish there was more. God the iron lords are so cool lol
I wonder if Saladin ever thought about seeking out the remaining Iron lords, Shaxx always says their watching but I think he means the ones who have fallen, but what about any of them who still ring true to the light? There has to be descendants at least, or special burial grounds of which you can find them protecting, maybe I'm just getting my own hopes up but it would be nice to meet one of the Iron lords and perhaps have them return to the tower or something...
I think you should try and cover some of the odd things that other lore creators don't cover. I was looking at a record with CHASM in the name which led me to a space station A-113. Potential future location but sounds like interesting lore to be explored that might help tie story together later on. I though CHASM might be a reference to another warmind at first but seems like it is some testing facility/project along with eclipse.
the banner's weapons should have their own grimoire (not sure if spelled right) that give insight into the character of which the gun is named after.
There's some kind of trickery. Yes you could say that about felwinter
Maybe that's the point. So much time passed, could be that information is lost and that Saladin might want to create new legends to unite the iron banner.
I wonder if Shaxx is an Iron Lord. I think this as he comes across as a very honourable man, he's also the only other living character with the Lord title.
He Aparrently was, He left
I hope sooner rather than later in whichever dlc or in destiny 2, that there be a cut scene of feature cinematic of say destiny 2 first ever iron banner that there be a cinematic flashback of the battle of the six fronts and we get to see all the iron Lords and salad fingers and shags too each all holding the specificity named weapons and dealing some serious damage to the fallen
skorri has a weapon called skorri's revenge too, it was a lengendary pulse rifle in year 1
Weren't those lords (Deidris, Haakon, Finnala, Nirwen, etc.) the Iron Wolves? They emerged from the ashes of the original iron lords. In all of the class armor descriptions, it talks about how the Iron Wolves emerged from the ashes and from destruction, after the Iron Lords alliance fell apart.
Yes, the lords and wolves are different
The helmet says Felwinter stared into the void which is also what it says for the void walker subclass... Possibly he helped form it?
Hey man can you go into the lore between The Last Word and Thorn. Two of the hand cannons that pissed everyone off in year one.
In regards to the new iron lords (Haakon, Ashraven, Deidris, etc.) I have a theory. I believe I heard it in another lore video about this theory and I've come to believe it as pretty solid. I believe these new iron lords, like the ones mentioned earlier are the current lords of iron and that they along with Saladin helped reforge the iron banner in order to commemorate the previous lords of iron and also to continue their legacy. But that's just a thought
Something to keep in mind is what Lord Shax says in the beggining of every Iron Banner match. "The Iron Lords are watching". Does this imply they are dead and watching from some warrior afterlife (Vahallaesque), or literally watching is something that has me curious.
+Joshua Valentin Eh, there could be a Guardian afterlife we haven't really heard about. If you're a Star Wars fan, you've heard of "One with the Force." Maybe Guardians become "One with the Light" or something :/
Byf, if you're busy with your degree, we all understand. That's important, man. Don't worry about holding off on vids. Just take your time and get your degree, buddy! :)
Im sitting here imagining how much better Destiny would be if Byf's lore was in the game.
I'm come the year 2023. Felwinter is resputin. Rasputin is felwinter. Somebody stop me 😂😂😂😂
But being a casual of destiny I'm finally going through all the background stories. Iron lords has down the best part of destiny
Of course there's trickery going on with feltwinters.. The range and perks you can get cannot be beat between skilled hands.
How to spot a studio plant: The UA-camr will do the developers job and unfold the story that should have been in the game.
ghelons Demise and skorri's revenge has gotten me through some hard times. effrideet's spear hehe easy livin
Maybe you could do a video on theories as to what happened to the queen, is she still alive? (you may have already done a video on this, I'm new around here sorry)
Saladin survived because he was so much more reserved as a warrior, when most of the other iron lords died, I honor the iron lords almost as much as noble team now, never forget reach, never.
If you can find stuff on her I'm intersted in learning more about the Exo-Stranger and her purpose. I also would like to know more about the Festival of the lost if there is information about it. Just some ideas, whatever you want to talk about is fine by me Byf.
How about some extra lore about the Rangers? Take a look at the takonome rangers gear for hunters!
I've seen another, quite different theory wherein the Iron Lords of the Iron Banner and the Iron Wolves were two different sets of nine people. The original Iron Banner contained the people for whom the Iron Banner weapons in year 1 were named, but was broken by betrayal and they all died, hence the names of those year 1 items all being so negative- Felwinter's Lie, Gheleon's Demise, etc. Then, in the aftermath of the breaking of the Iron Banner, the Iron Wolves made the pact under the Ironwood Tree to forge a new Iron Banner- these are the nine for whom the year 2 weapons are named, all of which have much more positive names: Cholomance's Duty, Nirwen's Mercy, Weyloran's March, etc. Apparently the text on the actual weapons bears this theory out some. Someone did a video with that version of the Iron Banner lore, though I honestly don't remember where I saw it.
Was it Meylin where you heard it? This theory is the one I personally believe in.
+DimondMine27 Ah yes, that was it I think.
nice Vid