GOTHAM HAD THE BEST VILLAINS

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  • Опубліковано 21 гру 2022
  • Gotham is a pretty divisive series with an extended fanbase.
    The show which acts as an origin story or sorts for Batman and his rogues gallery had some really incredible interpretations of The Dark Knight 's villains.
    The Joker
    Harley Quinn
    Penguin
    They're all there.
    Even if some of them aren't supposed to be.
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  • @danielskrivan6921
    @danielskrivan6921 Рік тому +1481

    One thing I like about asking the cast members about "Jerome vs. Jeremiah" is that because it's the same actor, they don't have to throw one of them under the bus.

  • @LeoTheLion17
    @LeoTheLion17 Рік тому +1425

    Besides Jim Carrey, I think that Gotham has the best interpretation of the Riddler. I feel like that actor doesn't get enough love

    • @macmcleod1188
      @macmcleod1188 Рік тому +87

      I felt like ed was the riddler in ways Carrey wasn't allowed to be. Jim could have portrayed the human but wasn't allowed by the director and time constraints.

    • @avace917
      @avace917 Рік тому +20

      I actually love this Riddler most. Sadly I can't remember his name.

    • @SeasideDetective2
      @SeasideDetective2 Рік тому +52

      Paul Dano's Riddler was what disappointed me the most about this year's movie. The "real" Riddler would never fully cover his face, and DEFINITELY would never try to come across as physically intimidating. Even worse, I've always taken it for granted that Edward Nygma ENJOYED being the Riddler. Frank Gorshin, who I met shortly before he died, once said that the character was naturally confident and optimistic, and became a criminal simply for the fun of challenging others. But the Riddler I saw in this year's movie was bitter and miserable, and seemed to be taking perverse satisfaction rather than truly having fun.

    • @user-nb8tk6hh6x
      @user-nb8tk6hh6x Рік тому +7

      I hated Jim riddler

    • @twizted_goblin
      @twizted_goblin Рік тому +16

      That's Joke Right , I mean Love Jim Carry And Great insane Movie but Would Not Call It The best Version Of The Riddler
      It was Jim Carry Playing Some Random Guy in A Green Suit Nothing close a Interpretation of The Riddler , But Neither was Two-Face in that
      and i still Enjoyed it a Ton

  • @hawktalon7890
    @hawktalon7890 Рік тому +500

    I hope Cameron Monaghan gets cast as the Joker in something else. I think about his performance a lot.

    • @mohabalserafe3795
      @mohabalserafe3795 Рік тому +15

      I always wanted him to have his own movie as the joker hell he would be perfect as a canon version of him in the DCEU

    • @zeroattentiongaming820
      @zeroattentiongaming820 Рік тому +9

      Well without Kevin Conroy, Mark Hamill has officially retired from the role and I think it's safe to say it's for good this time. While I'd love to see Cameron in something live action, I'd be all for him taking over for animated and video game appearances. Cal Kestis is physically based on and moccaped by him, so why not let him do the mocap for Mr J too?

    • @l0sts0ul89
      @l0sts0ul89 Рік тому +1

      ​@@zeroattentiongaming820 who do you think could take over as Batman ?

  • @jestervaleska1806
    @jestervaleska1806 Рік тому +924

    I wish he had more Gotham and they didnt rush the ending, Gotham really had some of the best Batman content hidden behind some goofy sides.
    Not only villains, I feel like David Mazouz did such a good job as a young Bruce Wayne, he always seemed like the very awkward but most intelligent boy in the room which I believe is exactly what a young Bruce would be.

    • @shalindelta7
      @shalindelta7 Рік тому +47

      I feel the complete opposite. They did rush the last season but I'm happy they ended the show at 5 seasons. I like when shows know they've produced a satisfying product and choose to end it on their own terms rather than bloating it into an over saturated slog.

    • @jestervaleska1806
      @jestervaleska1806 Рік тому +17

      @@shalindelta7 I do agree on that regard, but I must say... I do want me some new Gotham

    • @shalindelta7
      @shalindelta7 Рік тому +5

      @jestervaleska1806 one of the best end credits scores ever. I listened to it every single time and hummed along

    • @kodykoolrocks
      @kodykoolrocks Рік тому +17

      right but he started to mature and embrace the playboy persona and gained some street smarts and combat skills while still being that intelligent boy.

    • @lifeisberserk9566
      @lifeisberserk9566 Рік тому +16

      And Sean partwee IS Alfred the best version of him and Ben was a great young Jim and Cameren was an amazing young catwoman

  • @macmcleod1188
    @macmcleod1188 Рік тому +238

    Gotham was not canon and yet somehow faithful to canon at the same time. It told the origin story of so many villains in such a good way. I saw them as human beings who could want and hurt and care. And yet also wired to be villains and basically evil.
    I treasure the show .

    • @brieuxbayot6823
      @brieuxbayot6823 10 місяців тому +4

      I think that despite being an origin story, Gotham is kind of its own thing. You could see the show at its own universe and its own take on the many characters of Batman's world. I agree tho, it's amazing (and incredibly dumb at the same time).

    • @higaiwokeru
      @higaiwokeru 4 місяці тому +2

      Scarecrow’s origin was my favorite
      Although I wish they could’ve done more with him, from a scared boy to Gotham’s boogeyman, like parents would tell their kids stories about how the Scarecrow would punish bad-behaving children

  • @colewrld901
    @colewrld901 Рік тому +1214

    Gotham started going way overboard with the villains in later seasons and they should've just kept Jerome as the joker instead of the dumb twin storyline

    • @stephenthedude4383
      @stephenthedude4383 Рік тому +16

      Fax homie

    • @helzbelle13
      @helzbelle13 Рік тому +173

      I liked the twin storyline at first; I just wish Jerome had’ve killed Jeremiah and continued being the Joker character of that world. He worked so much better as that character

    • @jarrodedson5441
      @jarrodedson5441 Рік тому +1

      @@helzbelle13 I never did

    • @dontemorgan1517
      @dontemorgan1517 Рік тому +34

      They should have stick with regular criminals instead of Batman's villains because most should not exist yet.

    • @avace917
      @avace917 Рік тому +86

      The biggest flaw in this show for me was the character of Barbara Kean. The actress was great, but the writers clearly didn't know what to do with her

  • @ObaREX
    @ObaREX Рік тому +260

    Penguin's storyline is exactly what I want from movies/shows about villains. We got a character who is every bit as fun and full of depth as any good protagonist. With his own trials and tribulations. His own work and personal life. His own goals and wants. But also just happens to be an evil piece of shit. Why? Because we like the character. Simple as that.
    We don't need to to constantly center their story around the morality of their actions. We just need them to be as they've always been, just now we're walking in their shoes.

    • @jewelaloo7831
      @jewelaloo7831 Рік тому +9

      Sorta reminds me of Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul where Walter White and Jimmy McGill, respectively, are both undeniably evil, twisted people.

    • @jordanmertens8972
      @jordanmertens8972 Рік тому +5

      And he was gay.

  • @rayven616
    @rayven616 Рік тому +391

    David Mazouz is my favorite version of Bruce Wayne. The delivery of his lines and his body language scream BATMAN! The onscreen chemistry between Cameron and David is perfect.
    It's just a shame they couldn't be Joker and Batamn respectively.

    • @dawudhinton5754
      @dawudhinton5754 Рік тому +11

      And 1 dollar

    • @antoineboone3951
      @antoineboone3951 Рік тому +2

      @@dawudhinton5754 🤣🤣🤣

    • @panonymousbloom5405
      @panonymousbloom5405 Рік тому +23

      David and Cameron were perfect - I only wish we got more Jerome and Bruce interaction instead of Jeremiah because I feel there was just more to them.
      First of all - they had history. Jerome tried to kill Bruce twice and then it feels like a greater set-up when Bruce... Punches his face off (ah context). With their later interactions just being more interesting to me. Like you can tell Bruce sometimes feels genuinely sorry for him, while also being absolutely disgusted and overall "wtf is wrong with you". And Jerome slowly developing obsessive tendencies towards him and shifting from seeing him as his victim, to even questioning if he wants him dead. It's just great relationship development and reminds me of Arkham Origins. I think, in a way, Jerome was the first one to really see Batman in him when he decided not to kill him. He also expresses Bruce was the only person to "help" him which intrigued him in the first place. Jerome presence also literally haunts him after his death - in the same episode where Bruce was hunting his parents' killer which felt super important for some reason?
      And secondly - they had a lot of interesting parallels that I'm pretty sure were not purposeful but still happened. I don't remember how many of them I caught at the time of watching but what mainly interested me is this; they both lost their parents to become what they are - the interesting difference being, Bruce lost his loving family to a criminal while Jerome killed his parents himself for all the abuse he went through. They both had been freaky outcasts. The weirdest and smallest thing I've caught was - they both had a weird little diary where they were doodling their own vision of the future. Like, huh.
      *tldr* Jerome and Bruce felt more like two sides of the same coin to me - incredibly similar while also being very obvious opposites which was ultimately way more interesting to me.

    • @HikrisDopl
      @HikrisDopl Рік тому +1

      @@dawudhinton5754 and 1 cent

    • @TheBombasticFatRat
      @TheBombasticFatRat 7 місяців тому

      Shame he looked fuckin horrible in the batsuit

  • @starwarsbinks6339
    @starwarsbinks6339 11 місяців тому +32

    Him being illegally the joker even more fits the character 😂😂😂

  • @cole6843
    @cole6843 Рік тому +304

    The Mad Hatter was pretty cool too

    • @shalindelta7
      @shalindelta7 Рік тому +17

      Yes one of the best

    • @darklight2803
      @darklight2803 Рік тому +34

      Yeah the actor did a great interpretation.
      Shame we haven't gotten any more Mad Hatter live action roles.

    • @thepubknight6144
      @thepubknight6144 Рік тому +2

      @bruhmanofyear2 I hope he's the villain in the Reeves' Batman sequel

    • @shadow_master7303
      @shadow_master7303 Рік тому +1

      Agreed

  • @joekerr5152
    @joekerr5152 Рік тому +335

    I watched from the start and when I saw the promo I said “really? A ginger joker? He looks like chucky😂” I was so glad to be wrong he was absolutely awesome as the joker

    • @thepubknight6144
      @thepubknight6144 Рік тому +16

      Joker is naturally a red head since his creation

    • @nocte.animam
      @nocte.animam Рік тому

      That Chucky part killed me HAHAHA

    • @MitzyDoodle13
      @MitzyDoodle13 Рік тому +6

      We Gingers are the craziest. How can you NOT think the craziest psycho in fictional serial killer history isn’t going to be a redhead?

    • @margarethmichelina5146
      @margarethmichelina5146 Рік тому +1

      Honestly, Cameron Monaghan could cosplay as Chucky.

    • @mohabalserafe3795
      @mohabalserafe3795 Рік тому

      @@margarethmichelina5146 yep that's true

  • @DigitalGamerPixel
    @DigitalGamerPixel 4 місяці тому +5

    What I love about Cameron Monaghan's portrayal is that he's not just ONE version of Joker, he's all of them. At various points you can see him portray Romero, Hamill, Ledger, Nicholson, and stuff from the comics. Someday I hope they'll officially give him the role on the big screen.
    Also, I know it's a take people don't like, but I enjoyed his portrayal of Jeremiah just as much as Jerome. Jeremiah is the version of Joker from the comics who's very cold and calculating, the madness boiling just under the surface. It was a really interesting direction while keeping true to the character.

  • @avlisdreams3427
    @avlisdreams3427 Рік тому +226

    Glad this show gets some appreciation, it is way too underrated. There has been put too much heart and care into it to not acknowledge.
    This Penguin was definitely someone you really root for, no matter what they do.

    • @yirl8732
      @yirl8732 Рік тому

      is it underrated? it was pretty popular during 1-4 seasons, and even tho 5 season had the lowest rating out of them every episode still trended

  • @lucascalise2213
    @lucascalise2213 Рік тому +122

    It is funny how Cameron went from Joker to Jedi

    • @__Black_Sheep__
      @__Black_Sheep__ Рік тому +38

      The opposite of Hamil

    • @tokyodeathghoul2313
      @tokyodeathghoul2313 Рік тому +4

      Seeing as if I'm not mistaken Fallen Order takes place the same year Luke and Leia are born, I'd love to see a scene with Luke and Cal down the road, where perhaps they even share a laugh?

    • @idk42187
      @idk42187 Рік тому +4

      Also funny how mark Hamill went from Jedi to joker

    • @vision4860
      @vision4860 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@tokyodeathghoul2313 Funny because I saw a clip of a Scooby Doo animated movie clip where Mark Hamill - yes animated Mark Hamill - does the Joker laugh.

    • @nota444tm2
      @nota444tm2 5 місяців тому +1

      i was WONDERING why he was so familiar.
      cal frikin kestis.
      two star wars actors. two joker actors.

  • @sjmhadsock4586
    @sjmhadsock4586 Рік тому +62

    And Taylor did so good as tge penguin I wouldn't mind if he played him again in some capacity

    • @Kimbie
      @Kimbie Рік тому +4

      Astonishing, really. Truly only topped by Danny Devito's portrayal of the Penguin.

  • @skullkrusher4078
    @skullkrusher4078 Рік тому +66

    Gotham was bonkers, off-the-walls, utter madness.
    My wife and I loved it.

  • @lorde_spooky
    @lorde_spooky Рік тому +43

    I think that the new penguin costume in the finale would have worked really well if not for the fat suit, it just looked like he had a pillow in his shirt and it really ruined it

  • @justinhockstead3551
    @justinhockstead3551 Рік тому +85

    So in DC canon, there is more than 1 joker. Jerome was true to the most popular version of joker from the comics and I feel Jeremiah was a more original take on the joker. One I personally enjoyed, I love the calm and controlled chaos of Jeremiah

    • @alwaysxnever
      @alwaysxnever Рік тому +4

      So glad it wasn't just me. I loved the monotone and stern stare.

  • @JP-1990
    @JP-1990 Рік тому +12

    Making Mad Hatter a hypnotist is such a fucking stroke of genius.

  • @daniahkitten
    @daniahkitten Рік тому +53

    I miss Gotham 😢 such a great show with amazing actors!

  • @gabrielwanjohi1425
    @gabrielwanjohi1425 Рік тому +53

    Best interpretation of Penguin, Catwoman, Riddler and Bruce Wayne

  • @callumdrage5889
    @callumdrage5889 Рік тому +125

    Gotham is actually a really great show! Seasons 1-4 were all so good! Season 5 was a bit rushed, but on the whole a great conclusion. It’s fantastic and deserves another look!

    • @lifeisberserk9566
      @lifeisberserk9566 Рік тому +3

      Facts one of my favorite shows ever

    • @yirl8732
      @yirl8732 Рік тому +2

      it was VERY rushed because they cancelled it early and had to cram everything

    • @11more40
      @11more40 11 місяців тому +2

      If the show hadn't been cancelled season 5 would've been amazing, I'm sure of it

  • @Joker-qq1oi
    @Joker-qq1oi Рік тому +82

    I honestly think the best version of joker would be a mix of Jerome and Jeremiah. Crazy but also cold and calculating when needed to be

    • @alwaysxnever
      @alwaysxnever Рік тому +2

      I think that is what we got towards the end. I did Love the cold calculated introduction. The long live me scene and then Infront of GCPD was amazing to me and was sorry to see it go.

    • @yirl8732
      @yirl8732 Рік тому +3

      jerome already was cold and calculated from time to time tho, especially while in arkham in season 4. this kind of thing gets boring fast, which is why we need jerome's humor

  • @avace917
    @avace917 Рік тому +75

    I'm would swear that Monaghan watched BTAS and listened to Ledger in preparation for this show because those are respectively the visual and vocal performances that I'm reminded of most. If he didn't, he sincerely knocked it out the park

    • @yirl8732
      @yirl8732 Рік тому

      he doesn't sound like ledger..

    • @LarrySwishamane
      @LarrySwishamane Рік тому

      imo,
      thats why iHATED him! we've seen this version before. done better. By superior actors. Who've won awards.
      PLAYING THE JOKER.
      I'll spare the pun about their level of commitment to character compare to his....
      like he never posed any real threat on his own AT ALL.
      So, they had to give him a long lost twin.

    • @avace917
      @avace917 Рік тому +2

      @@LarrySwishamane well, I guess it's safe to say that his portrayal wasn't for everyone. I respect your opinion

    • @avace917
      @avace917 Рік тому +1

      @@yirl8732 when he was Jerome, he did to me. I wasn't crazy about Jeremiah

  • @AnEdgyWeeb
    @AnEdgyWeeb Рік тому +18

    I love how much of a Batman nerd David is, you can really see the passion he has for the character, and it definitely shows in how amazing his performance is as Bruce Wayne.

  • @Kid_Spitfire
    @Kid_Spitfire Рік тому +26

    A memory I will forever have attached to this show was the first time I binge watched all of it with my stepdad ,we were both recovering from different surgery's at the time and I still remember at the end of Jerome's first episode watching him switch from fake crying to laughter I looked at my stepdad and asked if he knew who that was and he immediately said The Joker (His knowledge of Batman only goes as far as some of the movies)

  • @brianhobbs6533
    @brianhobbs6533 Рік тому +31

    I think Jeremiah was more akin to joker from the white knight run or even dark knight returns. Much more calm and calculated

  • @jerryreed6024
    @jerryreed6024 Рік тому +27

    Still waiting for Cameron to play a live action Joker

    • @alicat7633
      @alicat7633 Рік тому +9

      You mean officially?

    • @rumblefish9
      @rumblefish9 Рік тому +6

      I'd rather see him as Cal Kestis in the Jedi Fallen Order live action

  • @kianolson6950
    @kianolson6950 Рік тому +126

    I think David Mazouz would play a amazing Robin, he would fit in well in partnership with Robert Pattinson

    • @marlonclark1896
      @marlonclark1896 Рік тому +2

      agreed

    • @darkservantofheaven
      @darkservantofheaven Рік тому +13

      Mazous is too old to work with Robert, and Robert is to Young
      However, if Ben Affleck was around, Mazouz would be a great nighting
      Rather have Scott Adkins. over both
      Imagine Karate Kid with Bruce Wayne in the Miyagi role and Dick Grayson in the role of Daniel Larusso

    • @foxmulder8139
      @foxmulder8139 Рік тому +2

      Mazouz as Robin and Pattinson as Nightwing would be great.

  • @spelareNR14
    @spelareNR14 Рік тому +120

    Please! Make a video on the Riddler! He was one of the best performances in the show imo!

    • @frankalbert8285
      @frankalbert8285 Рік тому +6

      Facts bro

    • @Asylum_Vamp
      @Asylum_Vamp Рік тому +7

      I love that nerdy little freak

    • @jordanmertens8972
      @jordanmertens8972 Рік тому +1

      And he was bi.

    • @ChaosArchives667
      @ChaosArchives667 Рік тому

      ​@@jordanmertens8972 Who gives a fuck?

    • @LarrySwishamane
      @LarrySwishamane Рік тому +1

      Hallelujah!
      SEE THIS GUY GETS IT!
      PERFECT PERFORMANCE.
      Him & Sean Pertwee's Alfred, off the top of my head, only actor's felt genuine portraits thru-out the series.
      Lets be honest....there was ALOT TERRIBLE ACTING/OVERACTING since its initial debut. Like if iWasnt heavily invested into Nygma, Alfred, Falcone & Maroni, especially the blood curdler scream by David...
      i'd beg jim to put a bullet in my head too.
      but, yeah, CMS Riddler = FLAWLESS!!!

  • @benskywalker7
    @benskywalker7 Рік тому +19

    I think not enough comic fans have seen this show, it has the best portrayals of a lot of Batman characters especially with Jerome as the Joker

    • @yirl8732
      @yirl8732 Рік тому +2

      comic fans are pretty stubborn, they will wake up someday

  • @millionairesburner24
    @millionairesburner24 Рік тому +73

    Most underrated show in the galaxy!!!

    • @shalindelta7
      @shalindelta7 Рік тому +5

      Completely agree. I loved this show and every iteration of their villains were fun to watch.

    • @lifeisberserk9566
      @lifeisberserk9566 Рік тому +2

      Underappreciated for sure but it definitely has a good chunk of fans which makes me very happy

    • @nicolas._.2294
      @nicolas._.2294 Рік тому +2

      I agree and I love this show. It's my fav dc show

  • @bentarbuck6161
    @bentarbuck6161 Рік тому +7

    I always preferred jeremiah. I liked the seething evil over the scenery chewing jerome

  • @pysz6748
    @pysz6748 Рік тому +15

    When I saw Cameron Monahan(probably spelled his name wrong) show that first smile and laugh, I knew that would be the Joker.

  • @wruxiz6104
    @wruxiz6104 Рік тому +12

    Jerome isnt just up there, the Gotham Joker is the best interpretation of the joker in any show imo

  • @Player-10
    @Player-10 Рік тому +8

    I genuinely feel some genius felt the need to pitch a show entirely around the incredible origin story for the Penguin, and the casting is the perfect pairing to the writing. Penguin literally made that show, and was the one thing that really hooked me. A perfect example of fleshing out a character more fully

  • @andreipintea9333
    @andreipintea9333 Рік тому +6

    5:47 I still get goosebumps at this scene. I'll never forget the first time I saw it and how shockingly good this dude was and could be as a potential Joker.

  • @fireflow726
    @fireflow726 Рік тому +43

    As far as Brent Spiner's Joker goes, he was really great in the Audio Adventures. It was so subdued and fantastic

    • @SeasideDetective2
      @SeasideDetective2 Рік тому

      What did you think of Alyssa Milano's Poison Ivy on the same show? I didn't care for it. She didn't sound like Ivy. She sounded like Milano quoting Ivy in a court transcript during Ivy's sentencing.

    • @fireflow726
      @fireflow726 Рік тому

      @@SeasideDetective2 I havent gotten to Ivey yet actually. I'm keen to find out though!

    • @SeasideDetective2
      @SeasideDetective2 Рік тому +1

      @@fireflow726 What's ironic about the casting is that Milano is clearly not the counterpart to Poison Ivy, but to Harley Quinn. More than that - she IS Harley Quinn! She was even born in the Bensonhurst neighborhood of Brooklyn, which is also Harley's birthplace according to the recent animated series. What more proof does anyone need?
      That's why, in my imagination, a teenage/twentysomething Alyssa Milano was Harley Quinn in BATMAN: UNCHAINED (the fifth Burton/Schumacher film that was right on the cusp of going into production but never got made). In fact, a part of me hopes that film STILL gets made, this time with a 50-year-old Harley opposing Michael Keaton's 70-year-old Batman.

  • @lifeisberserk9566
    @lifeisberserk9566 Рік тому +15

    Gotham definitely has some of the best portrails of batman's villains and villains in general some were just so perfect the show is amazing all around forever will be one of my favorites

    • @lifeisberserk9566
      @lifeisberserk9566 Рік тому +4

      @@bruhmanofyear2647 yeah there clayface was unnecessary and wasted, but I did like how Riddler used him to trick Penguin in season 3 that was clever

    • @lifeisberserk9566
      @lifeisberserk9566 Рік тому

      @@bruhmanofyear2647 you gotta admit though it was AWESOME seeing scarface and ventriloquist in live action

  • @NetherCrafterSMC
    @NetherCrafterSMC Рік тому +18

    Jeremiah, Jerome and J take on the roles of each of the Three Jokers
    Jeremiah = Criminal
    Jerome = Clown
    J = Comedian (But god damn J really needs a redesign )

    • @yirl8732
      @yirl8732 Рік тому +2

      the "comedian" kinda struggled with comedy tbh

  • @Zeeblud-Music
    @Zeeblud-Music Рік тому +43

    I like how someone FINALLY put the ventriloquist in a live action batman adaptation.

    • @Zeeblud-Music
      @Zeeblud-Music Рік тому +9

      @bruhmanofyear2 live action I meant bro

    • @Zeeblud-Music
      @Zeeblud-Music Рік тому +1

      @bruhmanofyear2 calm down I wrote it wrong without thinking I changed it

    • @Zeeblud-Music
      @Zeeblud-Music Рік тому +1

      @bruhmanofyear2 u like ventriloquist?

    • @Zeeblud-Music
      @Zeeblud-Music Рік тому

      @bruhmanofyear2 nice

    • @Zeeblud-Music
      @Zeeblud-Music Рік тому

      @bruhmanofyear2 you like rap?

  • @pokezod7832
    @pokezod7832 Рік тому +29

    I dont think Jeremiah is a BAD performance, i think that its like you said - a different comics Joker, the silent, sane and calm Joker. I really like both performances but like most people i believe the Joker should be like Jerome but saying that Jeremiah isnt the Joker is wrong since he is a take on it that was present before the show. I think its still a GREAT performance just wasnt the one you wanted. Its like taking a very bad storyline from the comics and doing it PERFECTLY, you wont like it but its still a good performance.

    • @noin4223
      @noin4223 Рік тому +1

      "sane" are you sure about that because the show explicitly tells the opposite about him

    • @pokezod7832
      @pokezod7832 Рік тому

      @@noin4223 maybe it wasnt the best word to use lol

    • @superiorspider-nava1943
      @superiorspider-nava1943 Рік тому

      Jeremiah is more like TAS Joker to me, the pure top of hipocresy and a very high superiority complex that protect his fragil ego.

  • @lynnerose7891
    @lynnerose7891 Рік тому +22

    Barbara is underrated
    This is about VILLAINS, not just one, which is exactly why they didn’t use him.

    • @thepubknight6144
      @thepubknight6144 Рік тому +1

      The actor who played Mr Freeze was perfect too

    • @lynnerose7891
      @lynnerose7891 Рік тому +1

      @@thepubknight6144 Well idk who he was but the arc for Barbara was amazing to me.
      Took the bit role of Jim Gordon’s ex-wife-and it was MINOR-and crafted a full character. Kinda weird that she was rehabilitated by the end but still interesting that she made it though the entire show without dying.

    • @kyellverdonschot9922
      @kyellverdonschot9922 Рік тому +1

      @@thepubknight6144 I loved his character on the 2-part episode. Too bad he ended up being a jobber

  • @finishhim6663
    @finishhim6663 10 місяців тому +3

    I just finished Gotham AGAIN only a week ago and I already want to go back for Cameron

  • @arthurstadlin6110
    @arthurstadlin6110 6 місяців тому +2

    Can I just say how much I fucking love John Doman as Carmine Falcone? Such an amazing actor.

  • @nicoleyoho2835
    @nicoleyoho2835 Рік тому +10

    Tell me you're the Joker without telling me you're the Joker.

  • @yes-me6yg
    @yes-me6yg Рік тому +23

    Fun fact before being typecast as an iconic villain Mark Hamill actually played the hero in a series of little known scifi movies called Star Wars Original Triilogy Parts 4 to 6

    • @paulglover2778
      @paulglover2778 Рік тому +1

      You must be young lol

    • @thepubknight6144
      @thepubknight6144 Рік тому +1

      @@paulglover2778 right lol even my sons who are ages 16 and 18 knew Mark Hamill was Luke Skywalker and the voice of Joker in the original cartoon and the Arkham games since they played all three games

    • @paulglover2778
      @paulglover2778 Рік тому +1

      @@thepubknight6144 😂 right! Like pretty common knowledge if you’re a fan. Hamil is awesome though..

    • @theempire3141
      @theempire3141 Рік тому +1

      @@thepubknight6144 lmao I knew that when I was like 11 and I'm 13 right now

    • @petloverspy
      @petloverspy Рік тому +5

      Three people in a row not getting dripping sarcasm is actually quite impressive. Internet!

  • @jaxprid
    @jaxprid Рік тому +4

    38:01 David is so awkward, I love it.

  • @michaelahurt
    @michaelahurt Рік тому +33

    Gotham reminds me of Smallville. Both are kind of a hot mess in parts -- Gotham less so -- but the characterization is so freaking good.

  • @radiodemonswing5683
    @radiodemonswing5683 Рік тому +11

    Gothams joker was like the book the three jokers Jerome was a mix of the Clown and comedian where as Jeremiah was the criminal the mobster more calm cool collected joker. edit: David brought up the 3 jokers apparently but he didn't connect the versions.

  • @jordangibbish7701
    @jordangibbish7701 Рік тому +19

    I subscribed simply because you told the truth that I've known for years that a lot of people tried to deny, that Cameron Monaghan was the best Joker we have ever seen. Jerome and Jeremiah were the absolute best part of the show

    • @Justin-Rocco
      @Justin-Rocco Рік тому +1

      They don’t even come close to Heath. Not even close ahaha.

    • @MoojinBoi
      @MoojinBoi Рік тому +1

      ​@@Justin-Rocco heath is a horrible joker, should've been anarky

  • @ninaxwings
    @ninaxwings Рік тому +4

    The moment I saw Ecco in that red and black sweater skirt number I knew she would be the next Harley after Babs

  • @seanhagelbarger6801
    @seanhagelbarger6801 Рік тому +6

    He is the best live-action joker I absolutely loved Heath ledger but I also grew up reading the comics and watching Batman the animated series and Cameron is by far the closest we've ever had to a correct joker

    • @Wizardjones69
      @Wizardjones69 5 місяців тому

      Funny enough, the best live action joker cant use his name LOL

  • @dana1828
    @dana1828 Рік тому +2

    Amazing that you reached out to the actors!

  • @raidengoodman8754
    @raidengoodman8754 Рік тому +11

    I love spreading the under appreciation Gotham got. Did the final season get rushed and fall flat? Yes. Did they have a joker problem? Yes. Do i still love the show? Yes. The good outweighs the bad

  • @deangelopryor3757
    @deangelopryor3757 Рік тому +9

    I loved fish Mooney. Favorite part of the series.

  • @gabriel120300
    @gabriel120300 Рік тому +7

    David Mazouz deserve so much to appear in the big screen if he wants

  • @metalboy1986
    @metalboy1986 6 місяців тому +3

    Jeremiah’s makeover feels like it’s trying to be Batman animated series joker but also trying to be Nicholson joker and it doesn’t work but I still like the character

  • @vanceamania
    @vanceamania Рік тому +17

    This and smallville were greatly underrated

    • @lifeisberserk9566
      @lifeisberserk9566 Рік тому +7

      Smallville was definitely popular when it was on TV and even now it's getting more and more attention which I love that and Gotham are honestly my top 2 favorite shows love both so much

    • @vanceamania
      @vanceamania Рік тому +2

      @bruhmanofyear2 to each their own. I respect that

    • @nicolas._.2294
      @nicolas._.2294 Рік тому +1

      Fr

    • @nicolas._.2294
      @nicolas._.2294 Рік тому +1

      @@lifeisberserk9566 same

    • @thepubknight6144
      @thepubknight6144 Рік тому +1

      @@lifeisberserk9566 as Superman and Batman are my favorite two dc heros I of course love both shows

  • @whooll
    @whooll Рік тому +2

    Good to see you're still uploading. Love your videos. This topic is fantastic and I actually am in total agreement with your take on these portrayals by this actor lol.

  • @lulusun1086
    @lulusun1086 Рік тому +2

    All of the actors and actresses in Gotham took their respective roles so seriously is the reason why the show turned out SO GOOD.!I am so grateful for the young & talented pool of casts they have decided to select :)) I hope the casts know that they have so much potential and will accomplish great things in their acting career

  • @mirandakamphuis1326
    @mirandakamphuis1326 Рік тому +52

    The joker is CLEARLY a mix between Jerome and Jeremiah after falling in a bath of sludge

    • @JamesCPotter13
      @JamesCPotter13 Рік тому +4

      I think there was an ending where Jerome was resurrected with the Lazarus Pit and BOTH were supposed to be up there, after it breaks, one falls off and we don’t know which one it is.

    • @justsomeguywholikeshentai1939
      @justsomeguywholikeshentai1939 Рік тому +2

      @@JamesCPotter13 If both Jerome and Jeremiah fell into the bath of acid and only one comes out as The Joker, you would just have to see if Joker have his face reattached and has his smile streched to see if he's Jerome, and if he doesn't he's Jeremiah, also Jerome's brain was destroyed so even if Jerome came back to life again he would be braindead

    • @yirl8732
      @yirl8732 Рік тому

      @@justsomeguywholikeshentai1939 why would Jerome be the one with destroyed brain lol, lazarus pit heals you completely

  • @kevinkingslayer2450
    @kevinkingslayer2450 Рік тому +21

    The VILLAINS is what kept me watching this show...If I take the time to talk about all the great performances by all the villain actors this would be too long...The portrayals of Penguin and The Riddler are the best to me in my opinion....😎

  • @brandiepop
    @brandiepop Рік тому +7

    gotham got taken off uk netflix and i have never been sadder because its literally my favorite show ever and i watch it like every 2 months

    • @SyverReborn
      @SyverReborn 4 місяці тому

      Or buy the dvd box set like I did

  • @PhantomPain7778
    @PhantomPain7778 Рік тому +20

    Yes more Gotham videos please!

  • @epicc1o1official
    @epicc1o1official Рік тому +6

    Ahhh finally you come back to the villains of Gotham! FINALLY!

  • @JuggerToad
    @JuggerToad Рік тому +12

    I was very skeptical going into this show, and I just finished it a few weeks ago. Gotta say, it's got the best versions of most of Batman villains. The Joker from TDK is still the best, but Jerome is not far behind. And permanent cast members Penguin and Riddler were just amazing in this version.

  • @sierraking4312
    @sierraking4312 11 місяців тому +4

    Jerome is great! And Penguin WOW!!! No tv character has ever made me feel the way he made me feel. Penguin made me constantly laugh. He made me cry. And his relationship with the riddler made me believe in love.

  • @alexdinu589
    @alexdinu589 Рік тому +20

    Jerome was clearly the joker and I loved that for once joker was played and killed at first and his second death was pure joker style

  • @eol273
    @eol273 7 місяців тому +2

    Ian Gallagher so many joker scenes (as seen in the series) that he decided he will because the best version of Joker and he did. Good job Ian, we all are so proud of you 🩷

  • @r.jclark4641
    @r.jclark4641 10 місяців тому +2

    Weirdly enough, Barbara Kean is *also* present in Batman '89, but as an extra during the Wayne Manor party scene.

  • @christianmanka3884
    @christianmanka3884 Рік тому +7

    Monaghan is my favorite live action Joker. I even think Jeremiah makes for a menacing Joker as well. I even kinda like finale’s Joker stuff.

  • @maggiiopgott8975
    @maggiiopgott8975 Рік тому +4

    We also can agree Gothom brought us the best scarecrow ever

  • @SmokingDragon100
    @SmokingDragon100 Рік тому +7

    I was hoping they were gonna make Lee Harley Quinn. I always thought Morena Baccarin really resembles the character.

  • @garyoaks8749
    @garyoaks8749 11 місяців тому +2

    Cameron Monotone's performance as the Joker was A1 imo

  • @JBat-Gaming
    @JBat-Gaming Рік тому +9

    Two best Jokers, Mark Hamil and Cameron Monaghan. If I was to make a Batman movie or series, I’d cast Cameron as Joker

    • @thepubknight6144
      @thepubknight6144 Рік тому +3

      It's so ironic they both played the best jokers and both played great Jedi knights

    • @rumblefish9
      @rumblefish9 Рік тому +4

      The best Jokers are also Jedis.

    • @JBat-Gaming
      @JBat-Gaming Рік тому +2

      @@rumblefish9 how true

  • @_thethinker5557
    @_thethinker5557 Рік тому +6

    Exactly bro!! And in my opinion it feels like Hollywood is sceared of making batman villains ever so slightly goofy, but gotham, they make riddler a charismatic guy rather than an emo twitch streamer, gotham made characters like mad hatter feel look a million bucks.
    (Edit) I'm not saying Robert's batman movie wasn't good , it was great, and the Riddler they have is good but Gotham's riddler was perfect

  • @thehauntedfaust9827
    @thehauntedfaust9827 Рік тому +1

    omg just reilised its cal kestis i cant unsee it now

  • @DMTInfinity
    @DMTInfinity Рік тому +14

    Cameron was the best Joker, hands down.

  • @NetherCrafterSMC
    @NetherCrafterSMC Рік тому +4

    A redesigned J and Barbara Keen would be such a power duo

  • @jmatrooper
    @jmatrooper Рік тому +5

    I loved Jeremiah's Joker. It was refreshing they let the clown pass on the legacy to the criminal.

  • @GalahadTheSeeker
    @GalahadTheSeeker 11 місяців тому +3

    I don't think "at least they took a previously nothing character and made that character into something" being a good thing is very situational. So, here's the thing, Barbara doesn't need any sort of characterization. She was written to be Jim's wife, and that's all that she should be. No need to turn her into a thing. Additionally, I don't understand how Jim's gonna explain the nature of her name to his daughter in this universe. "Yes, Barbara, your mother was an insane fucking person whom I used to love very much. That's why I named you after her." Right.

  • @Tryin2StayAnonymous
    @Tryin2StayAnonymous 9 місяців тому +2

    Professor Pyg is in my opinion, the best villain of the show, he’s so wonderful and despite being a schizophrenic surgeon serial killer, he’s fuckin charming as all hell. Him singing during the pie scene is amazing and can’t be beat.

    • @cancanjaker1620
      @cancanjaker1620 6 місяців тому

      i agree to this. Feel like the Professor Pyg in the show didn't get enough mention.

  • @jolfer1334
    @jolfer1334 Рік тому

    Ur channel is making me want to rewatch this show. I loved it the first time so maybe il do it again.

  • @The_Infamous_Boogyman
    @The_Infamous_Boogyman Рік тому +2

    Watched this every week, and while they did eventually go overboard, all but the ending was pretty solid

  • @toughluck8012
    @toughluck8012 Рік тому

    Well made, thought out, passionate. Earned a sub

  • @suikodensenpai41
    @suikodensenpai41 Рік тому +7

    The riddler was great

  • @lionofdemise
    @lionofdemise Рік тому +5

    I think the Joker Cult was more of a statement of the Joker fans in real life. After Ledger, a lot of people dress up as the Joker. It hasn't slowed down.

  • @noface7842
    @noface7842 Рік тому +2

    I loved every single villain but my favorite was the Penguin, dude went from umbrella boy to the Godfather of Gotham. I also loved the weird admiration he had for Ed

  • @0verWay
    @0verWay Рік тому +7

    Kinda hate how the later seasons treated Mr. Freeze just as a regular goon

  • @wruxiz6104
    @wruxiz6104 Рік тому +3

    While I really dont like Jeremiah as the new joker throughout the ending of the show, I loved his catalyst for going insane being that his whole goal was to do what Jerome never could, kill Jim Gordan and Bruce Wayne. And when he couldnt accomplish that it drove him crazy. It also gives an actually good reason to be obsessed with killing them instead of just (Oh well its the last thing I was doing before i died so yadayada.

  • @goblin_corpse
    @goblin_corpse Рік тому +4

    Head trauma could 100% change a person's personality that drastically. Idk about a bullet-based lobotomy though. 😅

  • @Gimili10
    @Gimili10 Рік тому +2

    My favorite villain was Penguin. Sure, it was hard to get used to his height and weight (presumably the disease that deforms him hasn't taken effect yet), but he made the great villain who doesn't seem like much but keeps surviving via unconventional brilliance.

  • @fallenafterling4128
    @fallenafterling4128 Рік тому +2

    Wtffff was not expecting the cast members to show up on here that's insane

  • @joshuafrohm921
    @joshuafrohm921 Рік тому

    I'm so happy you didn't stop!!!!

  • @Socrato
    @Socrato 3 місяці тому +1

    You can tell David didn’t see this as just a job, clearly he has a passion for Batman

  • @Teknicolourful
    @Teknicolourful Рік тому +1

    Thank you for this!! Jerome does not exist in enough discussions about the joker!

  • @AidanDownes_KH
    @AidanDownes_KH Рік тому +3

    Love anytime we get a new Gotham video!

  • @theoutsiderjess4869
    @theoutsiderjess4869 Рік тому +9

    I was literally only interested in the show because of the villains I just found Bruce Wayne to be boring and annoying but I fell in love with the Riddler and the "Joker/Jeremiah" this show casted amazing people to bring these villains to life

  • @kingkb54
    @kingkb54 Рік тому +7

    Personally for me Gotham has some of my favorite iterations of some bad guys the only exceptions are Harley second iteration Joker in Solomon Grundy because all the Legacy villains and characters I felt like got fleshed out in ways to where I saw especially with penguin and Riddler like The Human Side that feel like gets overshadowed by their crazy antics