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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • It's incredible how much the climate of superhero TV has changed since the cancellation of Gotham in 2019, but it still deserves to be remembered, and it still deserves a future.
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    Gotham is an American superhero crime drama television series developed by Bruno Heller, produced by Warner Bros. Television and based on characters from the Batman mythos in comic books published by DC Comics. The series originally aired on Fox from September 22, 2014, to April 25, 2019, over five seasons, comprising a total of 100 episodes. It features an ensemble cast that includes Ben McKenzie as James "Jim" Gordon, Donal Logue as Harvey Bullock, and David Mazouz as Bruce Wayne. The show follows Gordon's early days at the Gotham City Police Department following the murder of Bruce's parents, as well as the origin stories of Batman's infamous rogues gallery.
    Development for a prequel series based on Batman began in September 2013, with Bruno Heller hired by Fox to serve as a writer and executive producer. In March 2014, Fox originally ordered 16 episodes for its first season before expanding it to 22. Filming primarily took place across New York City. In May 2018, Fox renewed the series for a fifth and final season, consisting of 12 episodes, which premiered on January 3, 2019, and concluded on April 25, 2019. A prequel series, Pennyworth, starring Jack Bannon as a younger version of the iteration of Alfred Pennyworth portrayed by Sean Pertwee in Gotham, began airing on Epix in July 2019.[2][3][4]

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  • @alessandroortiz379
    @alessandroortiz379 Рік тому +803

    I remember someone commenting that batman says "if i dont help, the city of gotham will lose hope," and the guy reply "bro when did gotham had hope."

    • @zsmoove3108
      @zsmoove3108 Рік тому

      Are they aware how stupid they look asking that question?

    • @DarthJarJarBinks1
      @DarthJarJarBinks1 Місяць тому +2

      Mesa respects the 616 like number, mesa no ruin.

    • @ericmyers0
      @ericmyers0 Місяць тому

      @@DarthJarJarBinks1so uncivilized

    • @universumaeternalisfirmus
      @universumaeternalisfirmus Місяць тому +2

      @@ericmyers0 uncivilized is making up a small part of the population but majority of the crime

    • @ashleybanks-wm4cg
      @ashleybanks-wm4cg Місяць тому

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @harshitasharma776
    @harshitasharma776 Рік тому +349

    Seriously, the dynamic and connection between Alfred and Bruce is the best part of the show for me. Their relationship is such well established and natural.

  • @beethewizard
    @beethewizard Рік тому +175

    I thought I was the only one that loved Cameron Monaghan’s portrayal of “J”; his Joker was amazing and never gets credit because they weren’t allowed to call him that.

    • @PLUTOXGOAT
      @PLUTOXGOAT 5 місяців тому +13

      The most comic accurate portrayal of a Joker we've seen live action. He should've got the role in the new Batman films, criminal he didn't after that performance, would've been PERFECT

  • @cooldeadpunk777
    @cooldeadpunk777 9 місяців тому +80

    This show KILLED it in casting

    • @od4407
      @od4407 12 годин тому

      This must be a joke

  • @therizzler0609
    @therizzler0609 Рік тому +162

    This show is carved into my brain never to go away

  • @razahyder8541
    @razahyder8541 Рік тому +451

    I really hope this gets a sequel series for when David Mazouz is in his mid 20’s - early 30’s and we can get a full on Batman live action series!

    • @savage0928
      @savage0928 Рік тому +17

      Yes

    • @mr.neutral5632
      @mr.neutral5632 Рік тому +53

      In a decade or two if they ever do a multiversal chapter in the DCU , I could see him returning in a crisis on infinite earths film as batman once again.

    • @Humangarbage_7
      @Humangarbage_7 Рік тому +33

      Dude he’s like 22 they better hurry tf up.

    • @razahyder8541
      @razahyder8541 Рік тому +22

      @@Humangarbage_7 He’s only 22 😅 they can start in 3-4 years hopefully and have a good show

    • @kyberion
      @kyberion Рік тому +11

      With an actual suit. not the gotham knights suit

  • @avace917
    @avace917 Рік тому +49

    I loved this show. My only complaint is Barbara Kean. The actress was excellent but it seemed like they couldn't figure out what to do with her

  • @TheMonkeygoneape
    @TheMonkeygoneape 10 місяців тому +62

    Cameron Monaghan was great! His manic performance also carried over into Shameless at the time too as they were being filmed around the same time having not watched shameless until now, I can tell what seasons he started to start playing Jerome, down to the parts where he's literally just rocking his Jerome look

  • @thejoker9276
    @thejoker9276 Рік тому +78

    Personally, this is still my favorite show ! GOTHAM must be remembered !!!

  • @superiorspider-nava1943
    @superiorspider-nava1943 Рік тому +226

    The Best penguin, the Best Riddler, the Best Alfred, the Best Joker (Jeremiah) and the best series OC(Jerome)

    • @user-em7ig3lk7l
      @user-em7ig3lk7l Рік тому +22

      Best Jim too

    • @lifeisberserk9566
      @lifeisberserk9566 Рік тому +23

      Best zsasz and mad hatter

    • @sweettee_gaming
      @sweettee_gaming Рік тому +9

      Stupid question but what is OC? It’s driving me crazy.. I’ve got so many of the rogues gallery cycling throughout my head..

    • @neo4r4
      @neo4r4 Рік тому +12

      @@sweettee_gaming "oc" is just original character

    • @RandomizationShow
      @RandomizationShow Рік тому +5

      Best series OC is Harley Quinn, but otherwise 💯

  • @dariusthurman8835
    @dariusthurman8835 Рік тому +244

    Jim Gordon was awesome. This show proved villains can exist without a Superhero and that cops can actually do Stuff.

    • @NoahGreene-pp5wm
      @NoahGreene-pp5wm 7 місяців тому +4

      Well if the gcpd was actually doing anything Batman wouldnt need to exist

    • @carloshenrique-xb5bz
      @carloshenrique-xb5bz 6 місяців тому +18

      ​@@NoahGreene-pp5wm watch the show and you would see that they WERE doing their best

    • @kurtjeffrey8273
      @kurtjeffrey8273 5 місяців тому +1

      i mean The Villains dont have Powers at all So Gcpd Can Take care of it

    • @kurtjeffrey8273
      @kurtjeffrey8273 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@NoahGreene-pp5wmbro Bruce wayne is still Young He Cant be batman at the time

    • @NoahGreene-pp5wm
      @NoahGreene-pp5wm 5 місяців тому

      @@kurtjeffrey8273 no I know but like if they did their jobs then he would never have needed to become batman

  • @savage0928
    @savage0928 Рік тому +91

    I love Gotham, it was a good show, even my mom was into it and she didn’t even like those type of shows

  • @cinematastic1814
    @cinematastic1814 Рік тому +69

    Gotham is the most underrated comic book show. I love it! Even season 5 despite easily being the weakest season and filled with issues I think also had a lot of great ideas and themes and honestly was pretty decent. It’s one of the few comic book shows to have a 22 episode template and make it work. It also some of the best depictions of those characters. Robin Lord Taylor will always be my Penguin and Cameron Monoghan will always be my joker.

    • @neo4r4
      @neo4r4 Рік тому +1

      underrated? back when it was still airing it was everywhere😭

    • @aligmal5031
      @aligmal5031 Рік тому +5

      @@neo4r4 not talked about as much the CW shows (that were awful in comparison) were more famous

  • @timsimpson6019
    @timsimpson6019 Рік тому +48

    Gotham will always be remembered for one simple reason. Jerome Valeska/Jeremiah Valeska aka the joker.
    The performance by the actor was amazing and I often seen both Jerome and Jeremiah on media coverage regarding the joker character.

  • @nope5657
    @nope5657 Рік тому +170

    I avoided Gotham for a long time because I HATE the "lets make a superhero show without the superhero!" gimmick. But I kept seeing appreciation for it as time went on and finally gave it a go and LOVED it. It kinda plays like a if Batman Forever had a prequel show. It's bold and colorful and campy and highly entertaining. If the darker elements of Schumacher's original Batman Forever were retained, I feel like it would play kinda like Gotham.
    How a network TV Gotham show managed to have more memorable and impressive visuals than many superhero films today speaks to just how lazy a certain superhero franchise has gotten.
    Gotham itself has real personality and feels lived in and not just a generic setting for the settings. And the character work is largely very well done and satisfying to see.

    • @D14MBK
      @D14MBK Рік тому +2

      Why would you randomly hate that gimmick... Tf?

    • @Vinesus
      @Vinesus Рік тому +5

      @@D14MBK Tbf, remember Smallville?

    • @DanielTorres-pw8il
      @DanielTorres-pw8il Рік тому +4

      @@Vinesus Smallville was awful.

    • @Vinesus
      @Vinesus Рік тому +2

      @@DanielTorres-pw8il exactly

    • @aligmal5031
      @aligmal5031 Рік тому +6

      @@DanielTorres-pw8il smallville was good for the early 2000s

  • @CouncilofGeeks
    @CouncilofGeeks Рік тому +218

    Gotham gifted us the following: the most dynamic Penguin, the best live action Joker (Jerome), the best Zsasz, the glorious mess that is Barbara Kean, one of the best Riddlers, and the masterpiece that is the episode “This Ball of Mud and Meanness.” RESPECT!

    • @greenberry6019
      @greenberry6019 Рік тому +6

      Oh hey, fancy seeing you here. Loved your Power of the Doctor review!

    • @neo4r4
      @neo4r4 Рік тому +2

      Jerome isn't the Joker though, even tho I'd want him to be... his brother is

    • @theoutsiderjess1869
      @theoutsiderjess1869 Рік тому +10

      @@neo4r4 they both are they're just not allowed to call themselves the joker

    • @timsimpson6019
      @timsimpson6019 Рік тому +5

      The Joker was meant to be a combination of both Jerome and Jeremiah. Physically it would be Jeremiah but he would lose it and basically become jerome.

    • @jonathanking9954
      @jonathanking9954 Рік тому +5

      He is no way the best live action joker

  • @mr.neutral5632
    @mr.neutral5632 Рік тому +38

    this show was really fun , Shame it never went onto a season 6

  • @fuison55
    @fuison55 Рік тому +9

    I loved Gotham, best part was butch and penguin blowing up azrael with the missile launcher. 😂😂

  • @jt_9999
    @jt_9999 Рік тому +48

    We need a Gotham continuation with a high budget

    • @marlonclark1896
      @marlonclark1896 Рік тому

      yeah

    • @randallflagg3700
      @randallflagg3700 Рік тому +4

      Sadly the closest thing we got to a Gotham continuation was that mediocre *Batwoman* show... in the sense that Gotham's Renée Montoya came back for Batwoman season 3, still played by Victoria Cartagena.
      And the Victor Zsasz from that show (played by Alex Morf, that we had already seen in Gotham season 5) was very, _very_ clearly inspired by Anthony Carrigan's incarnation of the character.
      There are a couple other nods to the show in it, but I don't recommend watching it just for that; or at all. For every good thing in *Batwoman* (solid Luke Fox/Batwing, solid Poison Ivy in season 3, really good Black Mask as the season 2 Big Bad, etc) , there are 10 terrible ones

    • @mrx-od3ji
      @mrx-od3ji Рік тому

      @@marlonclark1896 gotham is bad they moved too fast and show was just awful.

    • @marlonclark1896
      @marlonclark1896 Рік тому +4

      @@mrx-od3ji no it wasn't

    • @mrx-od3ji
      @mrx-od3ji Рік тому

      @@marlonclark1896 yes the show was just bad,

  • @rhyssamalus5887
    @rhyssamalus5887 Рік тому +29

    Great video! And I agree about Gotham’s “Joker Problem” however I always had a way to fix the “Joker Problem”. Instead of killing off Jerome they should've let him live and still had Jeremiah come into the plot, so fans of either character still had their version of Joker in the show. Also each of them would’ve had a different reason for obsessing over Bruce. Jeremiah is focused on Bruce because of his friendship with him while Jerome is focused on Bruce because of his hatred. Then come season 5 for, whatever reason, they all, Jerome, Jeremiah, and Bruce, converge at Ace Chemicals and both Jerome and Jeremiah fall into the chemical. Then later we see that only one came out leaving the mystery of who it is since they’re burnt/scarred beyond recognition and their memory could be affected/wiped since they fell into acid. Fans could speculate about which one it is while also leaving speculation about if the other brother is still out there.

    • @superiorspider-nava1943
      @superiorspider-nava1943 Рік тому +1

      To be fair, Jeremiah hates Bruce more. I mean, as he said: Haven't you paid attention?

    • @darkholmehospital12
      @darkholmehospital12 4 місяці тому +2

      Well thought, the idea is similar to something I wrote five years ago on Pup's Alternate final part2 video. If you interested to read, here is the full comment, it gives some idea on how this plotline could be set:
      Sorry for the long text but this might interest you guys. I got recently a sketch of a strange idea so how Gotham could have done differently with the Joker origin story. This idea would “solve” the following “issues”: - Keep the beloved Jerome alive - Have a Joker with semi unknown identity - (+bonus) Have Jeremiah and Jerome at the same time as both “Half/Protos Jokers” In this scenario Jerome never dies in 4x18 and instead framed again at Arkham with the help of Jeremiah. In a similar fashion than Batman Telltale, Jeremiah would have to spread the insanity gas on Wayne’s Enterprise board employees in 4x20, as they discovered that Jeremiah’s technology can be used with wrong intentions and wanted to keep the generator safe from him, doesn’t trusting Jerome’s brother. As Jerome followers break in, they force Bruce to wear a gas mask, but strangely the gas doesn’t affect Jeremiah, that’s here he would remove is makeup to reveal he was already exposed to it. Most of the events happens the same until Ace Chemicals episode, where Jerome would break from Arkham. Then Jerome wants to disrupt Jeremiah plans in order to throw the city even more the chaos in the city (could have been the part of spreading the chemicals into the river) and at the same time challenging Bruce to stop him, definitely bounding them in a Mark Hamillesque Batman/Joker relationship. Feeling that would compromise is own plan regarding Bruce (Parents re-murder), Jeremiah pushes Jerome into the chemicals. Bruce would attempt to save him but instead we would have the same kind of scene as 4x18 with Jerome’s death, and Jerome would let himself fall into chemicals. Then Bruce and Jeremiah confronts as the same as 5x07, and Jeremiah falls too in the chemicals. Here is the fun part: the twins are extracted from chemicals with severe injuries, one of them as definelty died from severe burns, and the other is still alive but with no brain activity. The thing as their body and face are so severely damaged and they share the same DNA, it’s impossible to know which one survived and which one died, the surviving twin would be called J Valeska instead or Jerome or Jeremiah. 10 years after, Jim would ask him if he was Jeremiah or Jerome while attempting to save is daughter. J would responds a cryptic manner that would suggest he knows who he really is but playing with it in Nolan’s Joker manner, adopting the behaviour of both Jeremiah and Jerome at the same time to maintain the ambiguity. At the end, there is no way to know who is really is J. That all, I’m conscious that this idea is quite a sketch but I find it enough interesting to share it.

  • @TurtlebackYT
    @TurtlebackYT 3 місяці тому +5

    So many nights I just watch the episodes with Jerome because he’s my favourite joker I mean Jerome just look at him he sounds like joker he looks like joker he’s AWSOME like the JOKER like come on man hes awsome

  • @BionicleGio22210
    @BionicleGio22210 7 місяців тому +11

    I recently rewatched the series and my love for this show grew even more

  • @godzillamcentertainmentVCU
    @godzillamcentertainmentVCU Рік тому +38

    When The Batman (2022) released, my father thought that it would be a follow-up to Gotham. Tbh, that's not a bad idea.

    • @mrx-od3ji
      @mrx-od3ji Рік тому +2

      the batman 2022 is the worst batman ever the best batman is from 1989.

    • @luisz222
      @luisz222 Рік тому +8

      the way that Gotham is depicted in The Batman reminded me of Gotham a lot. However the way Bruce is acting in the Batman wouldn’t fit into Gotham’s Bruce Wayne, because David Mazouz’s Bruce is no longer as angry about his parents death as Robert Pattinson’s Bruce seemed to be.

    • @randallflagg3700
      @randallflagg3700 Рік тому +3

      @@luisz222 - Damn right. I'm a massive *Gotham* fanboy, but I have no problem admitting that the show feels like an Elseworlds story, since Bruce made peace with the show's Joe Chill (aka Matches Malone) much earlier than usual, and let go of his angst before he fully transitioned into Batman.
      Recently, *Batman: 3 Jokers* (damn, already 3 years old??) also did a very touching scene in which Bruce forgave Chill and held his hand as he was dying...
      Reminded me of *Gotham* 's : "I wished you were a monster... but you're just a man"
      The Batman that would have resulted from 5 seasons of *Gotham* would have been very interesting, he's already dealt with some of his biggest early problems, like the mob wars between Falcone & Maroni, the Red Hood gang & Joker's becoming, he's already met with Ra's al Ghul and killed him (well, Barbara kinda forced his hand) and now his daughter Nyssa wants revenge...
      It also seems like it's one of these Earths in which there aren't other superheros, like how in *Superman & Lois* (season 3 airing right now), it's been stated that Superman was the only super-powered hero.
      Diggle has made references to Green Arrow in season 1, and we learn that he died, but sounds like his team didn't include Ragman and Black Canary (the Dinah Drake one)
      Anyway, the Batman that would have emerged from *Gotham* would have probably been one that would have been eager to create a Justice League of sorts, like how Green Arrow did in *Arrow* when he finally chilled out and stopped killing people left and right.
      At least, that's my headcanon...
      David Mazouz was so good, it would be a real shame if he never got to play Batman... even if it's just a small role, like Iain Glein in *Titans* or Kevin Conroy in *Crisis on Infinite Earths* ... honestly I feel like if it were to happen, a small cameo would be the best we could realistically hope for.
      It's a shame they didn't get Mazouz to make a small scene in *Titans* season 4's episode "Dude, where is my Gar?" , for which they got Brec Bassinger (aka *Stargirl* ) to show up on set for just one day, and got her to film a short scene with Beast Boy...

    • @RandomizationShow
      @RandomizationShow Рік тому +5

      ​@@mrx-od3ji Hold this L

    • @khurramabbas9864
      @khurramabbas9864 Рік тому

      ​@@mrx-od3ji Batman 89 sucks

  • @aaroncarroll2417
    @aaroncarroll2417 11 місяців тому +5

    I watch Gotham in its entirety at least once a year

  • @joshuaweston6531
    @joshuaweston6531 10 місяців тому +17

    I haven't forgotten Gotham. The acting was excellent all around, to the point that it's actually pretty difficult to pick a favorite character. They were all so good! The show is also pretty bloody, but also very fun!

  • @captain_del_raven
    @captain_del_raven 9 місяців тому +39

    My favourite part of gotham is weirdly when riddler kidnaps the mad hatter and Barbara opens the door literally screaming "NIGMA" it makes me laugh every time

  • @Whitewingdevil
    @Whitewingdevil 11 місяців тому +13

    I feel like the batsuit in the finale of Gotham could have worked if we say it in a more dynamic pose, maybe hid it a bit in shadow, that kind of thing. Seeing Batman standing mutely well-lit against the sky is already a weird look for the character.

  • @goodgamewren5192
    @goodgamewren5192 11 місяців тому +9

    The best Joker, the best Alfred, the best Penguin, the best Riddler, the best Zsasz, the best Lucius Fox. I am so glad that I found this show this year. I will definitely remember it. And now I'm going to go watch it again. Except for the finale. I absolutely disliked the finale. I didn't need comicbook accurate Penguin and Riddler. And a lot of things they did, didn't make sense to me. And while we are going to get some Batman shows, whoever they get to be Penguin or the Riddler will pale in comparison to the brilliance that was Robin Lord Taylor and Cory Michael Smith.
    And yes, Jim and Lee are married in real life. They met on the show, I believe.

  • @scarease1
    @scarease1 Рік тому +10

    Jerome was great as Joker no argument .

  • @itsraeofsunshine
    @itsraeofsunshine Рік тому +22

    This made me want to rewatch the show again. I miss it so much. Great video!

  • @markiska006
    @markiska006 4 місяці тому +5

    my whole life i hated everything that super hero related but for somw reason gave this show a chance
    I LOVE IT SO MUCH now i'm getting into DC

    • @markiska006
      @markiska006 4 місяці тому +1

      literally became the one i despiced but idc i'm happy
      all it had to take is to see a couple of good fanarts by my favorite artist

  • @AG_Speaks
    @AG_Speaks Рік тому +23

    Sometimes I hope some day we can get a continuation of Gotham in the way of a low budget HBO Max movie or something along the lines.
    I love the show and I think everyone would love to see more of what Gotham's The Dark Knight would have to offer; and maybe then we can finally get that Two Face adaption!

  • @theofficialqueenofthebling
    @theofficialqueenofthebling Рік тому +9

    I’m rewatching this series…❤

  • @CYeoung
    @CYeoung Рік тому +11

    gotham is underrated, but they completely botched the ending

    • @sylvierr0n277
      @sylvierr0n277 Рік тому

      they botched the ending because of early cancellation. also stop calling it underrated it had a HUGE fanbase, the hype naturally died down around 4 season finale but still every episode of season 5 was trending on twt, the finale trended worldwide

    • @CYeoung
      @CYeoung Рік тому

      @@sylvierr0n277 then why was it cancelled early?

    • @sylvierr0n277
      @sylvierr0n277 Рік тому +2

      @@CYeoung it has multiple factors to it, ratings are probably one of them but ratings have little to do with the size of the fanbase. foxtv was simply outdated and the show had awful schedule so yeah each season numbers were going down naturally, yet it was still popular and people watched it via other ways. it was doing great on Netflix🤷‍♀probably also has to do with disney buying fox

  • @ThePinkDragon
    @ThePinkDragon Рік тому +13

    Loved Gotham It was so Dark Loved the cast. I loved the young man and wpman Who played Bruce And Selina

  • @theantone7476
    @theantone7476 Рік тому +26

    Gotham was a great show who should have gotten ten seasons like Smallvile. For season 5 they should have went with an entire season of No Man's Land and end it with the finale episode. Seasons 6 - 10 could have been the early years of Batman fighting his rogues. It took risks and it worked and at the end of the day, it's just part of the big multiverse and an adaption

    • @randallflagg3700
      @randallflagg3700 Рік тому +5

      One one hand, I would have also loved to get more *Gotham* ... but on the other, I'm glad it ended before it had time to degrade.
      I'm one of the few who actually enjoyed season 5, Bane and Nyssa al Ghul were really good as the Big Bads, in a big homage to *The Dark Knight Rises* ...
      The last episode after the 10 years gap was underwhelming though, wish it had been at the very least a two-parter.

    • @thatonebadasslighter
      @thatonebadasslighter Рік тому

      Until Stupid ratings had to ruin everything

  • @TheOstrichOrginization
    @TheOstrichOrginization Рік тому +12

    I recently found Gotham around 6 weeks ago maybe and finished it a week ago. I loved this show so much. No doubt the best part was Penguin and Riddlers friendship. I also would love to get a comic book continuation of the Gotham series. We need to get a reunion special with the cast sometime. Maybe it’s 10th anniversary. I’ll never forget Robin Lord Taylor’s Penguin

  • @jayology23
    @jayology23 Рік тому +10

    This show was a trip

  • @treymykel
    @treymykel Рік тому +7

    Dont forget Fish Mooney she was interesting for a original character made just for the show even if she played by Jada Pinkett Smith lol. But Gotham wasnt that bad it had flaws and that Batman suit was horrible but it was pretty cool

  • @kiritoswords6479
    @kiritoswords6479 Рік тому +7

    Tomorrow, I'm gonna start rewatching this show.

  • @miggygana8029
    @miggygana8029 Рік тому +13

    I grew up with this show. It was great seeing it evolve throughout the years up until the last episode. I cried watching that finale. As it felt such a heartwarming and amazing journey. Gotham came out at the same time I was playing the arkham games and completely invested in the DCEU. So this show will always be a part of my pop culture life

  • @JBat-Gaming
    @JBat-Gaming Рік тому +7

    Gotham is great. While I don’t really want to see a continuation of it, but I have a dream to create a Batman tv or HBO Max show where id try to get some of the Gotham actors to reprise their roles, but if I could only choose three, they’d be David Mazouz, Camren Bicondova, And Cameron Monaghan

  • @letsroamaround2189
    @letsroamaround2189 Рік тому +6

    Gotham is my absolute favorite serie ever, glad I got to talk to robin lord taylor IRL, such a nice guy!

  • @erosheartache2398
    @erosheartache2398 Рік тому +9

    I would love a Gotham Graphic Novel. There are, however, two tie-in print novels by Jason Starr called Gotham: Dawn of Darkness and Gotham: City of Monsters.

  • @dolier2802
    @dolier2802 Рік тому +10

    4 Years? I know it was a while ago, but NO WAYYY, still feels like last year when I saw you and Boba Talks reviewing the season finale and such

  • @jerraldwest8531
    @jerraldwest8531 Рік тому +16

    I don't care if they never call him the Joker or if it's technically Jeremiah who's supposed to be the clown Prince of crime, Cameron Monaghan as Jerome Valeska is the best on-screen Joker there's ever been. The scene where he storms into that real estate office was some of the best Joker stuff I've ever seen.😂

    • @timsimpson6019
      @timsimpson6019 Рік тому +2

      I agree. I have been reading Batman for years (I’m 35) and Jerome was literally joker from the comics on screen. Also Cameron just happens to have the physical look. Ledger and jack were amazing as joker but they didn’t look like joker in terms of build and other little details

    • @jerraldwest8531
      @jerraldwest8531 Рік тому +1

      @@timsimpson6019 I honestly would be happy if they recast Joker in the Matt Reeves Batman franchise to Cameron Monaghan. It'll probably never happen, but a guy can dream.

    • @Mike-zy8in
      @Mike-zy8in 8 місяців тому

      ​@@timsimpson6019 I'm 35 too, my dude jack Nicholson in the late 80s looks exactly like the joker. Go UA-cam a video called: are you a good person by living waters

  • @davidwilliams1853
    @davidwilliams1853 4 місяці тому +3

    Curse you higher ups why can’t you revive Gotham? I swear channel Pup make a video about this. We need you to make sure Gotham gets what it deserves

  • @GwydionsAstralCoffeehouse
    @GwydionsAstralCoffeehouse Рік тому +7

    Currently rewatching it for the 3rd time 👍🏼

  • @imashovel6844
    @imashovel6844 Рік тому +6

    I feel sorry for whatever Batman cast is gonna take these guys roles as the actors did their roles so well, especially riddler, poison ivy, butch/Cyrus gold, panguin, joker/ valeskas

  • @theoutsiderjess1869
    @theoutsiderjess1869 Рік тому +18

    Gotham and the Arrowverse was an amazing experience and while the quality did dip on some of these shows whenever there is a good episode it's such an inspiring and entertaining watch

    • @Raiders-qk8ld
      @Raiders-qk8ld Рік тому +8

      Arrow was a great show too and the flash the first few seasons was great . They get hated on but I’m glad they existed

    • @FriendlyBatDoom
      @FriendlyBatDoom Рік тому +2

      Gotham yes Arrow no.😊

    • @randallflagg3700
      @randallflagg3700 Рік тому +3

      @@Raiders-qk8ld - *Arrow* had a fantastic first 2 seasons, that were basically a huge Green Arrow vs Deathstroke arc... then sadly it deteriorated in seasons 3&4, and we would have to wait for season 5 to get another great season.
      The later seasons were very inegal, with 6 being mostly "meh", 7 starting great but ending up mediocre, and 8 being pretty damn good.
      In the end, *Arrow* was a good show, but the quality of the seasons was too random.
      It felt really good to have a Green Arrow-centric a couple weeks ago in *The Flash* season 9, apparently the rest of the season is complete crap but that one episode kicked ass.

    • @Psycorde
      @Psycorde Рік тому +1

      ​@@randallflagg3700 yeah, it started out great but was turned into CW mush we know now, shame

    • @randallflagg3700
      @randallflagg3700 Рік тому +1

      @@Psycorde - Indeed, one episode left in the last season of the Flash, and so far the 4-episodes Cobalt Blue arc that ends the Flash is garbage.
      I hope they really put everything they have into the last episode, we already know of most of the cameos, so let's hope they make good use of it.
      Until the end, the CW had some great DC shows
      (Superman & Lois, and Stargirl are/were both top tiers superhero shows),
      but with them cancelling Stargirl after 3 seasons
      and now it sounds like they won't even give Superman & Lois a 4th season, because
      "it costs too much to produce, we barely make any money with it, and we want to become specialized in reality TV shows anyway"...
      Well, it's a real shame. The Arrowverse Barry Allen not even having a cameo in the Flash movie also sucks, since Ezra Miller had a cameo on the TV show, but oh welp.

  • @Jeffthom81
    @Jeffthom81 3 місяці тому +2

    Great show with Robin Lord Taylor deserving of an Oscar as Penguin.

  • @sammyismuff
    @sammyismuff Рік тому +12

    This brought me back. I watched the first season on Netflix when I was 12 and stopped watching when Jerome died. A while later I saw a video essay praising the show, so I started watching it again. I was such a Jerome/Jeremiah/Joker fanboy. There was no doubt in my mind that he Cameron was the best. The only season I got to watch while airing was season 5 (which is unfortunate). Now I’m 18 and I’m happy that we got a whole 5 (more like 4 and 1/2) seasons.

  • @TheMightyMRP
    @TheMightyMRP Рік тому +6

    Gotham was a great show! It must be remembered! I would love to see the actors return to these iconic roles one day, but i won't get my hopes up...

  • @erichill4926
    @erichill4926 Рік тому +6

    I remember when this show was on, I did not want to stay late at work because I was catching the bus Gotham that was my show, I was infatuated with this show from beginning to the end. And I also thought that each one of those characters deserve an Oscar, that's right characters, not just the show, the character's deserve an Oscar. To this day, I cannot find a show that keeps me mesmerized like Gotham.

  • @amaravazquez8591
    @amaravazquez8591 Рік тому +8

    Fun fact: the people behind Gotham are also responsible for HBO's Rome. Two underrated shows were the environment is also a character.

    • @sylvierr0n277
      @sylvierr0n277 Рік тому

      is it really underrated if it had a huge fanbase (im talking about gotham) ?

  • @jalensplash697
    @jalensplash697 6 днів тому +2

    I wish Scarecrow’s adaptation got more love from fans. Definitely memorable

  • @ashleighdana2498
    @ashleighdana2498 Рік тому +4

    Gothams my number 1 hyperfixation for the past couple of years. Cheesy, yeah. But this show just hits different. Cool costumes, good character development and the perfect balance between fun and drama. I think the great dynamic between the actors are what makes it work so well. Love all the different lower grade villains that aren’t just joker/riddler/penguin. Love love love

  • @kingddg218
    @kingddg218 Рік тому +5

    We need more gotham the villain trailers were amazing

  • @danielwilliams3161
    @danielwilliams3161 Рік тому +7

    I got to know Gotham like never before, learn new characters and have fun, it really was a treat

  • @darkservantofheaven
    @darkservantofheaven Рік тому +4

    Ya gotta love Nygmas Drip in this show. especially that fit at 10:53.....

  • @nw08
    @nw08 Рік тому +6

    Gotham wasn’t perfect and the finale was disappointing but I STILL enjoyed the show
    Great cast and featured my favorite interpretations of the characters

  • @EvilTomba42
    @EvilTomba42 4 місяці тому +2

    I'd absolutely read the Batman comic set in the Gotham universe, I'd watch the movie, and I'd read the book. Yeah, loved this crazy show.

  • @phoenixdcfan5058
    @phoenixdcfan5058 Рік тому +6

    Totally agreed! Smallville had a Season 11 as a comic series. Think it'll be very cool if we got GOTHAM Season 6 as a comic format. With its own interpretation of the Bat-Family, Owl-Man and even Harvey Dent finally becoming Two-Face. Its like you can't have an established batman universe without Two-Face.

  • @annwhite3378
    @annwhite3378 Рік тому +3

    I love cameron as joker but best joker no that has to go to heath ledger in my opinion

  • @Danjor369
    @Danjor369 Рік тому +2

    22:13 to 22:15 💀😂

  • @runsoncaffeine
    @runsoncaffeine 3 місяці тому +3

    Another thing that was so great about Gotham was the wardrobe, especially for the villains. While they had their casual outfits to go by, there was always something unique to 1up their previous look (i.e. Mr. Freeze, Hatter, Firefly, Scarecrow, Jerome/Jeremiah, Penguin as his dapper self, Riddler, etc.). Never disappointed by these character's appearances.

  • @comixof2morrow
    @comixof2morrow Рік тому +3

    Definitely was a great series

  • @johanstenfelt1206
    @johanstenfelt1206 Рік тому +4

    It got cancelled? Huh, that’s a shame, it was such an interesting Series.
    I hope we get to visit it’s World again someday, do you think it’s possible?

    • @nyx8823
      @nyx8823 Рік тому +4

      I don't think It's possible. BUT I WOULD LOVE a new Batman movie with GOTHAM cast. Just imagine

    • @johanstenfelt1206
      @johanstenfelt1206 Рік тому

      @@nyx8823 hm, okay, I guess I should’ve been more clear just in case,
      By “visit it’s World again” I meant it as in through other mediums,
      Still, yours is a interesting idea too.

  • @lifeisberserk9566
    @lifeisberserk9566 Рік тому +6

    Oh definitely!! One of my favorite shows ever and so underappreciated and deserves all the love and I love that it's getting more attention

  • @neilredmond8296
    @neilredmond8296 5 місяців тому +2

    Gotham was a masterpiece of the batman universe.

  • @swagwolfgang
    @swagwolfgang 7 місяців тому +2

    My favorite Jim Gordon is bounty hunter Gordon in Season 3

  • @TurtlebackYT
    @TurtlebackYT 3 місяці тому +2

    This was the best show ever and Jerome was awsome he was the best Joker EVER

  • @divinedelaware7541
    @divinedelaware7541 Рік тому +4

    The first season was great. Grabbed my attention immediately. The penguin kid Should have been nominated for a Emmy STG

  • @KilledByOP
    @KilledByOP Рік тому +6

    Gotham was top tier

  • @upsettymachete5742
    @upsettymachete5742 7 днів тому +1

    Unpopular opinion here but I actually prefer Jeremiah over Jerome, something about how cold the character was made him feel inhuman and more intimidating as a villain. I think he captured the more psychopathic side of the joker that I like

  • @MrDumdumkilla
    @MrDumdumkilla Рік тому +2

    Jeremiah Valeska

  • @StudMacher96
    @StudMacher96 11 місяців тому +2

    This show was too amazing to ignore.

  • @matthewsmith7059
    @matthewsmith7059 Рік тому +5

    Hey, great video and look back of Gotham!!That’s actually how I discovered your channel way back watching a video you did covering the show. I had saw that not a lot of people talked about it and did deep dives into it . But I’m glad I managed to see the videos you did and glad to see a Gotham video again 🙏

  • @mileslugo6430
    @mileslugo6430 Рік тому +2

    Camaron Monaghan gets multiple chances to play Multiple versions of the Joker. Even adding a unique spin at the end because Gotham can't actually have the Joker or the Batman.

  • @alexmontesino
    @alexmontesino Рік тому +3

    Jerome Valeska was the best joker after jack nickolson and even didnt have the classic make up just pure acting!

    • @Mike-zy8in
      @Mike-zy8in 8 місяців тому

      JN best joker in my opinion or tied with Caesar Romero ..go UA-cam - are you a good person by living waters

  • @KEEGANATORGAMING
    @KEEGANATORGAMING Рік тому +3

    I think a final season 6 of the Gotham Batman would be alright. Do a villian of the week type of deal.

  • @deadlvrs
    @deadlvrs 23 дні тому +1

    It's just so camp that I can't help but think about it constantly. And I (controversially?) /love/ the twin Jokers plotline and will die for Jeremiah. I just have to imagine Jerome is reanimated after the finale because nothing stays dead in Gotham.

  • @mistersp3753
    @mistersp3753 Рік тому +5

    Nice to see you finally get back to roots, Pup.

  • @rustym.shackelford5546
    @rustym.shackelford5546 4 місяці тому +1

    I actually am doing a "re-watch" of Gotham on HBO Max, love the f***k outta it.

  • @ThreadBareHope1234
    @ThreadBareHope1234 10 місяців тому +1

    All this time after the show ended people are singing it's praises.😂😂
    I warched it over the pandemic and thought the plot was alright, the cast strong, and the craziness thoroughly entertaining, but i had no idea ther were so many UA-camra that where closet Gotham fans

  • @Skypost4ever
    @Skypost4ever Місяць тому +1

    Gotham was so good, it's in my top 3 superhero based shows with agents of shield and daredevil.

  • @vanceamania
    @vanceamania Рік тому +2

    It was a great show.

  • @LazyEyeNZ
    @LazyEyeNZ 7 місяців тому +2

    Love the series. Am currently on my third rewatch.

    • @Luckyluciano21
      @Luckyluciano21 6 місяців тому

      I'm rewatching it for the second time

    • @kurtjeffrey8273
      @kurtjeffrey8273 5 місяців тому

      Arrowverse Is Officialy Over I miss flash He is Goat Grant Gustin carried the Show after season 4 If only Gotham Have Crossover with other series Cause He is the batman And Dig should've been Green lantern but he rejected the ring on season 8 of flash And theres Superman Flash But Theres No Green Lantern Wonderwoman Aquaman
      Cause if Theres Justice Leauge it should've be Wally West As the flash cause In original Justhce Leauge the flash is wally west and barry allen died in the Crisis

    • @kurtjeffrey8273
      @kurtjeffrey8273 5 місяців тому

      Gotham Is Best at Portaying Young Bruce wayne And Jim Gordon As well as the villains in the show

  • @ConnerVain
    @ConnerVain Рік тому +2

    Gotham was better than arrow and flash.

  • @thehedgehognerd
    @thehedgehognerd Рік тому +3

    Has it really have been 5 years since it have ended....man I feel old 😢

    • @lifeisberserk9566
      @lifeisberserk9566 Рік тому +1

      I remember the day the finale aired I was at Culver's when it was on and I was bummed I missed it but watched it the next day

  • @yogurtb4757
    @yogurtb4757 10 місяців тому +1

    Thing I most remember about Gotham is that it had some fine ass women running around lol

  • @nabbitpro7501
    @nabbitpro7501 8 місяців тому +1

    IF they wanted to do a season 6 they could have it set place in that 10 year gap between episode 11 and 12 of season 5

  • @ashjcoronado
    @ashjcoronado 28 днів тому +1

    I agree about the Riddler and Alfred being one of the highlight of this show.

  • @Jimmy-yi7iq
    @Jimmy-yi7iq 12 днів тому +1

    Id would like to see him even in the dceu reboot as the joker

  • @davidyoung4141
    @davidyoung4141 Рік тому +2

    I loved Gotham. Last show I watched from start to finish on TV.

  • @KingHarkinianMah21
    @KingHarkinianMah21 Рік тому +2

    CHANNEL PUP MAKING A VIDEO ON GOTHAM??? LETS GOOOOOOO

  • @videocyborg
    @videocyborg Рік тому +2

    im rewatching gotham right now.

  • @Mr.TwoFaceGuy
    @Mr.TwoFaceGuy Місяць тому +1

    I don’t remember the the time I “got ham”. Was it important?

  • @nathanthesubzeromangold4615
    @nathanthesubzeromangold4615 11 місяців тому +1

    I hope to get started another one another Batman. Now series is over. Not yet but there's still more to do for Batman's rival. After Cinema climax.
    And now they could take it to work.
    Saga trilogy.
    He did with the animated series of Batman
    And the Batman more seasons to go. To complete the ultimate trilogy I would love to see more Batman story arcs right after the television series ends of Gotham season 5 finale.

  • @JP-1990
    @JP-1990 Рік тому +4

    Gotham made a lot of VERY ballsy moves that I think payed off well in ways that dont get enough credit.
    1. The revamping of Mr. Freeze's revamping with Nora. That shit was heatbreaking.
    2. Having Mad Hatter be a hypnotist who controls his victims with a watch OMG I JUST REMEMBERED THE WHITE RABBIT HAD A WATCH
    3. Hugo Strange's experiments are responsible for freakish villains like Killer Croc, Man-Bat, and Clayface
    4. Using a lot of NEW villains that even casual Batman fans might not know about (Jane Doe, Dollmaker, Mother, Cornelius Stirk)
    5. Azrael being the inspiration for Batman to take up vigilante crime.
    6. Adopting the silver age storyline of Bruce being a masked vigilante as a kid.
    7. Having this version of Harley Quinn (Echo, I know) be more like a quiet mime for a while.
    8. Depicting a young Bruce Wayne as being adorably naive about the criminal underworld.
    Also, how is it that a Batman show on FOX is allowed to use more Batman characters than the CW?

    • @randallflagg3700
      @randallflagg3700 Рік тому

      The Mr Freeze origin story was definitely one of the best moments of the show for me... _"Mr Freeze/A Dead Man Feels No Cold"_ is one of my favorite "mini-arcs".
      It's such a shame that after that he was relegated to elite mook status...
      Plus, not only was his first appearance in the *Gotham* universe, in the web-series *Gotham Stories*
      (which canonically takes place in the break at the middle of season 2)
      which was pretty cool with beautiful drawings (some are shown in this very video by Pup) and excellent voice acting, but sadly not a lot of people even watched it...
      But Freeze was then supposed to have a large role in *Gotham* season 5, which was cut short when they needed to make the season much shorter.
      And about the CW not being able to use more Batman characters than FOX... I don't think that's true? They were able, in the Arrowverse, to use Bruce Wayne, Kate Kane (Batwoman), Luke Fox (Batwing), important bat-rogues like Harvey Dent, Ra's al Ghul, Poison Ivy, Deadshot, Amanda Waller, Tommy Eliott (Hush), Lincoln March and the Court of Owls, Joe Chill, and many many others.