I FAILED! Fear Factory. Why you can't recreate their tone.
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- Опубліковано 23 кві 2018
- I try and fail to recreate Dino's UNOBTANEUM tone.
Tone is in the hands of the player (and the engineer, the mixer, the producer, the mastering engineer, the amp tech mod, the vynyl cutting lathe operator, the console engineers, the partidge in a pear tree).
Kemper that, bitch!
Dino:
JCM800 modded. Reports differ on the guitar. It was either a 6 string ESP with EMG 81 tuned down (more probable) or an ibanez 7 string guitar (UV7 with passive pickups?)
The metalhead mod consists of a push/pull added gain boost, push/pull added bass boost, added effects loop which was later, 100/50 watt switch, noise gate, and 6550 power tubes. 2 12AX7 preamp tubes are added to the preamp for the gain boost. Noise gate/suppressor.
Super chorus.
Cab: Mesa 4x12 with v30’s.
Colin Richardson produced but was pushed aside and didn’t mix it. Reece and Greg mixed. They quad tracking the guitars and also applying heavy EQ.
We used a 6 string BC Rich virgin with EMG81
Langner style modded JMP Marshall with 2 extra gain stages, bass boost, 2 preamp tunes added and EL34 tubes. Speaker was a Mesa Celestion V30 and sm57.
Boost was Fortin 33 pedal.
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I love the Demanufacture story Dino tells. He said he built that tone around Dimebags tone on Vulgar. Years later he told dime that and dime said, "no way! I based reinventing the steel's tone off of yours!". Lmao
Reinventing the steel guitar tone was tight af!
By far my favorite Heavy Metal guitarist. I guess makes perfect sense they would inspire one another.
FF way ahead of their time...to me it was their sound that eventually gave birth to the so called djent in modern prog..what suck is ppl don't give them the credit and respect they deserve.
Agreed.
@Claudia Solomon Periphery is as good as Fear Factory and Meshuggah, at least
@The Violeta Metal Revue Their songs have become much more streamlined lately. Less jumpy stuff which indeed can sound jarring when you're into older metal. Their singer has evolved too. Maybe you've listened to their latest stuff and you still don't like their music and that's fine, but I'd suggest checking them out again.
I always thought of Fear Factory as a lesser version of Ministry and Godflesh, my favourite album is Soul of the New Machine, but their later stuff really did contribute HUGELY to the development of modern metal.
@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 dino and burton actually bonded over their mutual love of GodFlesh
Dino's tone was still recognisable on those early Brujeria records - it's a very distinct sound
Yep. The same thing happens when I hear my friend playing. It’s instantly percussive/bouncy. It’s hard to be machine like and have groove.
Dino used an ESP 6 string with an EMG 81 on the first 2 Fear Factory and Brujeria albums.
@@gavin6666 what amp and distortion pedals did he used on the brujeria albums? Effects etc
A band that started cyber metal and clean and dirty vocals with one singer, amazing, yet they get no respect anymore....
Yep they were influential for sure.
Fear Factory even invented Meshuggah.
I wouldn’t say that. Genexus was held in high regard. In my humble opinion I felt it was far superior to Demanufacture. However, Demanufacture was a pinnacle head turning jaw dropper when you think of what was going on in 92.
No. Meshuggah were doing their own thing beforehand.
Demanufacture, Destroy Erase Improve and SYL's City were all released the same year IIRC (1995). It wasn't the first album from any of those guys but still arguably the best.
FWIW there was a huge metal/industrial crossover scene at the time which may well have been a common thread.
FF were an influence on Meshuggah, but they sure as hell didn't 'invent' Meshuggah, c'mon now.
Here's how I think the obsession with 'sensible mids' came about:
- Bedroom players and starter guitarists in the late 90s/early 00s dialling in a tone at home discover that using scooped mids sounds just like the metal records they love.
- Same players start bands but find that they can't hear themselves in rehearsal or live. They then learn that it's because the tone they dialled in at home doesn't translate to live, and they need to dial in mids to cut through in that environment (they learn this either from more experienced players or from forums).
- This leads to a massive backlash against scooping amongst the next generation of guitarists, and a blanket assumption that scooping is always bad in any situation and that mids are the be all and end all.
Because if there are two things that the internet cannot accommodate, it's context and nuance.
That's how I see it anyway, maybe others have different ideas.
I think it’s because of the volume wars. Taking the meat out of the guitars in order to make the perceived volume louder when you slam the ear with ALL THE FREQS.
CIRCLE OF TONE. I think that's definitely a factor, yeh. In my experience that came a little later on, but could easily be a combination of these factors.
Spot on man! Made a similar comment to another thread
Scooping the mids doesn't sound "more like" records at all, it's just the MORE GAIN MORE SOUND thing. Lows and Highs are the extremes of the EQ, so it's easier for the untrained ear to think something sounds better if it makes a more direct impact on perception. but once you get used to it, you need more. It generally goes like this:
"Need to make my sound better"
"Lows make it bigger, highs more clear"
"Need to make my sound better"
"More lows, more highs, yeah"
They progressively make their tone worse, it's obvious for them that guitars on record sound very different, at this point they just want it to sound good as a thing on itself. Problems show up when they start playing in a band. Nobody can hear the guitar with that EQ, so they have to crank up the volume, to the point it gets annoying to everybody else. Professional musicians who "scoop the mix" do it knowing that it's gonna be "fixed" on recording. The producer probably applies filters or increases the mids on other way, but the musician is counting on this.
Scooping the mids is a relative concept. If you put the mids all the way down to zero on a Marshall, you will still have a ton of midrange in your sound. Whereas on some other amp, putting them to eg. 8 / 10 could still be quite scooped-sounding compared to some other amps.
I think Pissing Razors came closest to obtaining that kind of monstrous Fear Factory guitar tone with their underground classic Cast Down The Plague.
The magic of Rhys Fulber... Everything he touches is fucking awesome.
Obsolete was even MORE scooped then Demanufacture from what I can hear when I compared the two of them. Obsolete is by far the album that has defined my guitar playing and sent me back to the drawing board! Sick video dude! I need to listen to some fear factory again!
If you've ever listened to Frontline Assembly you'll know where that mix comes from. You're getting industrial guys to mix metal.
I heard FF the first time on the remix EP "Fear is the Mindkiller" mainly because I was already into FLA, and they did that work! So... not surprising that FF got the same guys in for Demanufacture.
The early-mid 90s was a really interesting time. A lot of metal bands were getting truly weird remixes done by industrial & dance producers.
Oh, and FWIW I saw Fear Factory in London (Underworld) in 1995, the Wacken warm-up show pre Demanufacture release. Still one of the best gigs I've ever been to. It was insane!
Your passion for tone shines through! Great work man!
Do dimebag's tone on far beyond driven. The track strength beyond strength to be exact. That would be badass.
Has to be done.
Yes the tone on SBD is amazing.
The tone on The Great Southern Trendkill was amazing too. If i was gonna pick a song to get the tone on FBD it'd be 5 Minutes Alone.
Any dimebag tone on any album even the Damageplan. 👍🏻😁👍🏻
Problem is, the tone comes half from his hands and ain't no one got his hands.
Huge Type O fan, huge Fear Factory fan and early Life of Agony....this trifecta of metal was my life growing up! Great channel man!
Life of agony is one of my biggest vocal influences. Thanks man.
That’s great man! Not many people have heard of Life of Agony. To anyone out there reading this go get the album River Runs Red by Life of Agony and prepare to have your face melted!
You can hear my LOA influence when I sing this song ua-cam.com/video/j0Tt4vHvg7c/v-deo.html
Absolutely can hear a little Keith in there. Glad I found your channel man, keep up the great content!
This channel is so much fun. How you don't have at least 10 times as many subscribers is beyond me.
Goran Tesic Thanks Goran. I think guitarists like my vids, but my olderish demographic are not into the sharing culture. People with zany guitar content tend to have a younger audience who tweet, share, insta until the sun goes down.
That’s what I tell myself. Haha.
Type O Negative and Hypocrisy would be two more bands that had/have a very unique sound.
Sven Jeschke I’m obsessed with Type O. I’m doing them for Halloween.
fuck yeah! would love to see some Type O sound info and background! can't wait. you're the man owen! oh, did you stop selling the wiring harnesses? couldn't find them anymore on the COT page.
I do recall Kenny used an ADA MP-1 and a Gibson SG on their first three recordings. I have no idea of the power amp, I’m picturing a Peavey Classic 50/50 for some reason.
OMG I love Hypocrisy. Such a great band.
Yes!
Dino is a MONSTERRRRRR player! He could play better than me with just a plectrum duct-taped to his pinky and a cast on his arm. LOL
I've been in a small room with Dino playing through a monster amp. It was...amazing.
I still can't believe I learned play this song. On the surface it might seem easy. This will work out your speed picking by mach 5 speed it's crazy. I remember for years I tried to recreate the speed. I mean one day I just to started to pick faster. I almost got knocked on my ass because I finally after years I got faster. It took years and years of speed picking alternate picking to get it. I think almost a magical and also steady diet of pantera added to get this speed. Moral of the story fear factory will always be one greatest extreme metal bands ever.
Crazy cool tone man! Sounds badass!
Thanks man. He’s a machine.
Cough cough (Heartwork) cough cough 😁
That’s a combo of a Peavey 5150, Marshall 6100 Anniversary Head, and a Marshall mini stack for added texture 🤩
don't think he's gonna nail two cabs together front to back
You may not like the video coming out tomorrow.
CIRCLE OF TONE. Chuck??? Or Bill :)
Kevin Kelly it’s chuck...but I talk about heartwork and why I’m doing Reek Of Putrefaction era of Carcass instead. Plus I don’t want to nail my cabinets together. Hehe.
How about Sepultura Arise
One of the best metal tones, a video about it would be great
Hell yes. It will be done.
CIRCLE OF TONE. That's some great news
Demanufacture is one of my favourite tones. Brutal and tight, awesome sound.
Yep. It’s a classic.
Love your video! Great work. Thanks.
Dino also uses a very light gauge string
YOU ACTUALLY DID A FEAR FACTORY VIDEO AHHH
Also i actually asked Dino what cab he was using in that era and he said it was a Mesa 4x12 with V30
Great info. Thanks.
Yep, I remember reading about Dino using the Mesa cab in a guitar magazine during the 90s. I'm sure kt88's were mentioned also because they handle low frequencies well but yeah I get the 6L6's. Solid state tone for attack and precision. A bit brighter than kt88's. I always thought Marshall might have made a Dino "Replica" lol jcm amp. Sadly not. Great to hear the tone on the Genexus album too. I read Dino got the Jcm custom amp out of storage, sampled it straight into his Kemper and used it alongside two other of his favourite amp setups. So it's kind of the first time that tone has resurfaced since the 90s. Got to say the sound on Genexus is absolutely immense.
Dude, that was damn close, and your picking technique is awesome.
Richard is a machine. Absolute phenom.
What about Primus? I reckon it might be fun trying to figure out the bass and guitar tones there...
Yep. I’ll be doing those with help from my brother.
So dank! Great video!
But does it djank?
This was very insightful and I can't believe what effort Dino put in his works. That's why albums without him lack punch! Thank you for the effort!
It should be noted that Rhys Fuller and Greg Reely are production wizards who come from the industrial metal band Frontline Assembly. Their ear for a tight, digitally compressed sound is what Fear Factory ultimately wanted and had also done some remixes on the album Fear is the Mindkiller which came out before Demanufacture.
That record is f***ing epic!!! That was my first fear factory record!!! And I remeber how stoked I was about the sound on that record. I still get adrenalin kick when I turn on that record!
Staale Mathisen it hit me like a ton of bricks. That realization you are hearing something new and HEAVY. Gold.
That was tight bro 👍
Watching this, it now makes way more sense why modern metal sounds so sterile, lifeless, loud etc. Definately a great argument to made here. Also really explains why 90's records tend to hold up better imo. Demanufacture specificly still sounds better than many modern albums out now
I always have my little practice amp's gain up to at LEAST 75%... Is this wrong? I adjust my thrash picking technique accordingly; chords/single notes. I noticed if I'm strumming with a lot of emphasis on the root chord, it actually sounds pretty good--- even without a bunch of pre-amp stuff.
I just picked up a vintage Marshall Superlead with the “metalhead” mod. It has an insane amount of gain. I never listened to Fear Factory before but I checked out these early albums and it’s definitely a similar sound my amp has.
sounds amazing aggain \m/.
Watching this again. Still love it. 🤘🏼 saw them live a few years back with Soilwork. They destroyed the crowd and Dino plays note for note.
I've been in a small spund booth with Dino playing an amazing amp. It's fucking insane to see it that close.
Dino uses a Kemper these days... just download his sounds 😂 x
Lol. Never!
Dino's my solid guitar hero. I mean I have others but amongst them, I had built my foundation on Dino's massive picking technique and I'm proud that I came close to it, and then some, I dare say. Thanks for this video man! So much informative for Dino's fans such as myself! Cheers!
I've witnessed his right hand in a tiny room with a handful of people in it at NAMM. He's such a natural.
Really enjoyed this. I started listening when digimortal came out. Fear Factory makes me feel like a ridiculous amount of power is surging through my body. Put this stuff in football players helmets and hear the bones break and watch all that blood drench the field.
Keep these coming!
Thanks Phillip. It really was like getting assaulted with a machine gun. Only fun.
6:58 "If they can reproduce *that* in the Factory ..." you mean the FEAR ... Factory? 😏
Yisssss.
Don't think i've ever clicked on a video so quickly haha :)
The Demanufacture tone is my holy grail. I've found i get nearish to it with an EVH 5150 III 50w red channel, a Maxon OD808 in front, and then scooped on the amp, through g12t-75 speakers.
Sometimes scooped to hell sounds amazing as you say. Especially on the palm-mutes (which is my favourite thing about Dino's tone). Those ultra punchy, ultra tight palm mutes give me goose bumps to this day.
It's probably my favourite album ever. What's amazing is that in a lot of ways i still think it sounds modern and original now.
Yep! It was groundbreaking. It is funny...it does hold up today despite being scooped.
Gotta love that 5150 III red channel! Absolutely brutal!
Dino's pedal board has a few tricks on it as well. One that I like is he used to use a TS808 with the overdrive just barely up, tone just barely up and leveled it. The circuit just added something specific to it and that's helped me achieve his tone to a degree. And yes, very scooped.
Great video! Same video with Obsolete tone? Dino made some additional mods to tune down to A. In terms of production it's pretty unique, sounds more heavy than Demanufacture. Christian did also an amazing job on guitar sound for Archtype too. Best guitar tones ever and best band in the world. Period.
Thanks man! I probably won’t revisit but you never know.
It took almost until the eight minute mark to know that it was Demanufacture that was the Fear Factory album you were calling one of the greatest metal albums of all time. I agree :D
I really did like Soul of a New Machine, though. And the 'Fear is the Mindkiller' remix EP was even better :D
Yep. Great great album.
Although, Obsolete was such an amazing concept album. Fear Factory are just metal gods.
You have gained a new subscriber, sir. Enjoy the weekend.
Chuck Something is from Altamonte Springs Florida about 20 minutes from me in Orlando. Too bad I never saw that amazing band live but fortunate to take a few lessons from Bobby Koeble who shredded all over 'Symbolic'. Great guy. Thanks for another killer vid!
Yep. I tried and failed in the past but now I think I’ve cracked it.
the metalhead mod also had a push/pull to add bass to the overall tone. there was a push/pull for gain as well. the metalhead marshalls were really really made places shake to the ground
Hey man, what about Asphyx "The Rack" or "Last One On Earth" guitar tone? Their guitarist Eric Daniels used following gear on all 1990's Asphyx albums: T.C. Electronic Sustain/Parametric EQ pedal, T.C. Electronic Line Driver/Booster/Distortion pedal, Boss HM-2 (all pedals together, one by one in this order), Ibanez Digital Delay pedal (for solos), Marshall JCM 800 head and standard Marshall cab. I hope this helps!
This is great! Loved Demanufacture. Dino just used Marshall JCM2000 DSL's on the tour for that album. I remember a big piece on him in Total Guitar at the time at Donington, when it was still called Donington MOR in 1996 if I remember rightly :-)
Pretty good job. The Demanufacture album was recorded with an EMG 81 equipped ESP guitar. So you had the pickup right. Ibanez was later 90’s.
Kevin Kelly great info. Thanks.
@JezBollah 667 That was Christian Olde Wolbers for the couple of years Dino wasn't in Fear Factory
@JezBollah 667 , check Divine Heresy's albums (especially the debut one) - this is what Dino did, while he was out from FF.
Thanks Owen for attempting it!
Cheers Paul!
There's a reason I stay subbed to this channel. Great content, no bs and real world ranting about music and its starilization. Fear Factory Rules btw. Your tone match gets the general idea, in that it kicked me in the guts. Love it
+Heavy metal chainsaw - delighted you like it. Cheers!
Hey you, wake up, open your swollen eyes!!! F**king love FF! This was so fun to watch. Keep it up bros!
Thanks man.
Dino's Marshall's also had a mod-built in noise gate in it.
Yep that was added after demanufacture. It’s in the description. So many mods!
I've never heard of Fear Factory before this video but DAMN that tone was brutal
Yes! Corrupting you with the old school.
Dude, do you lived under a rock since 1992
Dude Fear Factory demanufacture is so epic. I've been listening to FF since soul of a new machine in 92
jesus. last time i was this late fewr factory had only broken up twice
Really enjoyed this video. I’ve definitely shared a lot of these sentiments.
I have an old Guitar World magazine with Dino article in it and he said he had 2 of those Marshall JCM 800 heads. One with 6L6 and one with 6550. Apparently they both got stolen at same time.
Hey! I love my Ibanezes! Granted, they're modded af...
Love this off-the-cuff, not-too-edited video stuff. Straight to the point with no need to be a cartoon character in order for (straightens tie) "your content to be palatable to consumers." We may not see eye-to-eye on every sonic choice, but that's the good part. Sound more like yourself than just your influences.
Thanks man. IMO the early Ibanez UV777 was one of the best guitars ever designed. SO MUCH R&D went into it. I know Dino used one at one point. I WISH I bought one when it was on sale for $800!
Oof, I vaguely remember those days. (Cries in mosquito.)
Lol
I believed Dino used an ESP guitar for the recording of Demanufactured. He got his Ibanez endorsement sometime after the release of Demanufactured.
*looks over at his UV777* yeah, they are nice!
You got really close mate, very impressive
Thanks man.
"You can scoop." THANK YOU. I fucking love you CoT. I spent so long having people say I was crazy and I'm like "look at all these classic recordings". "Sensible mids and gain" actually is a good sound but it isn't the only good sound and if everyone does exactly the same thing they all sound exactly the same and it gets boring.
It’s good but...polite. Haha. Thanks for watching!
These people play 1 single note or chug most of the time. You don't need midrange definition to do that.
IN A recording, sure, especially if it's a one guitarist band, but please don't do it live, it's just white noise
You can definitely scoop the only problem is the mix as a whole. Say you're in a live setting and you have 2 guitar players and one of them has the mids scooped. You will not hear them at all. It's ok for studio when you can just layer guitar tracks but you will always need mids in a live setting
This whole channel is about recorded sounds so... There are a ton of things you can do in the studio that make no sense live. I mean, the drums on "Enter Sandman" sound unbelievably killer but they don't build a giant tracking room with all sorts of partitions around the drum kit to do a Metallica show.
Man this sounds pretty freaking close as far as raw sound goes, nice playthrough!
I also like scooped guitar tones, that's just the era of metal music I grew up with... the guitars must have some balls! :)
The production & analogue gear plays a huge part in this for sure - but don't also forget the drums - real drums just have FEEL to them man... it's still impossible to re-create this with samples unfortunately...
Any videos here about how to properly tone your amp? I tried everything, but nothing sounds "metal" without the pickups turned all the way up.
Does that make sense?
That was pretty good on the 6 string. That's my favorite song Self Bias Resistor.
Thanks man. He's a beast.
Not sure if it was brought up, but the first 2 FF albums were done with an ESP M1 Custom with a single EMG 81. He didn't switch to Ibanez until mid 1996 when he got an Ibanez UV7BK with a single Dimarzio bridge pickup. I think obsolete was done with either a UV777 or a custom Ibanez LACS with an EMG 707 prototype pickup.
I thought I was the only person who loved that album. H-K, best track ever.
Could you approximate the extra gain stages using tube overdrive pedals such as blackstar’s ht range? Also on the subject of black star, they make amps with 6l6s but still have the British to American knob thing (pretty much nothing more than a marketing shill), could maybe get similar results
I've found overdrives/tube pre's tend to make it tighter than the gain stage mods unless the amp has something extra built in to compensate for the extra warmth/flub. I like Blackstar. They get a lot of stick (from people who have not tried them).
Great video.
Fear Factory and Tool that blow my mind that time,, not shitty boy band :-)
Agreed.
The cab was definitely a Mesa cab, he said he borrowed it from the Bad Brains guitarist
Ralphie Leonard yep! Thanks.
Great one! What about iced earth?
I've found that if you record with lots of mids from the amp you kinda have to scoop on the board or it'll get really boxy & squishy really fast.
Pallbearer next? Really great vid thanks!
I still fucking love it. Tight playing!
Yep he's a beast.
Fear Factory one of the big 4 of Industrial Metal along with Ministry, Godflesh and Rammstein.
Part 2 is pretty damn close! It's awesome to hear a knowledgable fan rant about the incredible mix of this record.
Love the videos. Can you possibly do a tone recreation of In Flames (Whoreacle)? 🤘🔥🎸
dude... when I saw that guitar I thought you were playing an early 80's Robin. I have 2 of them both 1982's. The Robin's have the single humbucker and the reverse banana headstock. They were the original "superstrat"... Everyone gives that credit to Jackson/Charvel/Kramer.. but the Robins were right there too. Great video !! Saw Fear Factory on their Soul of a new machine tour 92. Bought their CD right there at the show.... AMAZING live band !
Hey man.... Dig your vids.... How's about the tone of Crowbar? Same amps Dime used... Randall RG100 solid state with a Boss MT-2 Metal zone in front used as a boost with the gain all the way down... it has that semi-parametric mids THANG goin for it... Their tone is heavy as fooooook!
I'm not sayin Dime used the MT-2.... But Kirk Windstein has used it more than once....just sayin...
Yep I’ll give it a go once I get a Randall RG. GOOD SHOUT.
I've scooped my mids my entire music career scoop mids
Have you ever seen Dino in the studio for digimortal? Look in the background. Yeah I know it’s not demanufacture. He used a line 6 flextone III I believe for that record. I remember talking to Dino after a show and he was using one live and his tone was so crushing. He was using 2/12 Mesa boogie wedge cabs and that head. I’m sure w v30s. I ran out so quick to get one and it just didn’t sound quite as good as his. My cab was a Marshall 4x12. Can you try a flextone III head and try again? Plus I think he was DI out to the board as well. I thought that amp didn’t work with both DI and plugged into cab. In most live applications there’s almost always a DI out blended in the mix for metal. Some other things to explore.
If I can access one I'll definitely do a retry.
Cool video. Godsmack tone next ? Awake era
Dadada Servais I’ve got a lot on the conveyor belt right now but thanks for the suggestion.
fear factory demanufacture two thumbs and two toes up
Hell yeah!
GOOD JOB!
I wouldn't even come close to that massive sound.
Demanufacture really is "lightning in a bottle". It did capture something special about that band that has never been captured again. I love most of Fear Factory's albums, but THIS was special. However, I could have sworn Dino only used MESA Dual Rectifiers? Never knew he had the classic (but modded) JCM800.
+Dave Lanciani Nah the recto was just about to be released when the album was being recorded. It’s interesting because (I think) the modern metal amp staples like rectos and 5150’s were not out or at least widespread back then.
Nice!
When I saw them live recently (demanufacture album live) they had everything running through Axe-Fx racks I don't think it was even miced up, just straight to house.
Yep. I think we need congress to sign in mandatory modded Marshall’s for any guitarist who goes over a certain sales threshold.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE omfg lmfao this is silly, clever and very funny in a total tone nerd way I know and love!!! Ha ha
Well fuck me, I didn't listen to Fear Facto since high school and I totally forgot I used to love them. Your friend's playing is super tight, very impressing.
He is a MACHINE. Amazing player.
Where did this movement to not scoop mids come from? Also, I think included in the "sensible mids/SM57/V30" nonsense is an anti-EMG sentiment that's entirely ludicrous.
Stoked for the Mike Fortin video. He's the best right now.
It came from the loudness wars. Making guitars sound like mosquitos frees up the low end to make the mix louder.
I thought he used a Mesa Triple (or maybe dual) Rectifier... Was that just for a specific album? Or am I remembering wrong completely? lol I haven't watched through the whole video yet :p . And I saw fear factory in Kansas City at a smaller venue, and man it was powerful. Sometimes in smaller venues people will sound very muddy and unclear. But those guys did GREAT work.
I think rectos were available just after Demanufacture. It’s interesting because it was just on the cusp of the 5150 and Rectos gaining momentum in the modern metal world.
I really enjoy the guitar tone on Misery Index's album Traitors. It always seemed pretty old-school to me. That's somewhat modern. So this sound is not completely dead.
this dude does not need corpse paint the reverse smile gets deeper with ascending brutality :) fucking great
Yeah he's pretty intense when he plays. He changes in front of me.
What's the song being played in the beginning by the other dude?
Self bias resistor
Why is the low E on the Kramer wound the opposite direction?
Because I'm an idiot.
On Soul of a New Machine and Demanufacture, Dino used an ESP Horizon with an EMG 81 tuned down to B. He didn't switch to Ibanez until 1996 or 1997, when he started writing for Obsolete.
Can you try to recreate the Brujeria tone?
I’m waiting for you to cover sepulturas and obituary’s tones
Would love to see a video on the early Mastodon tone
That has to be done!
What even are mids?! ;) one of my favourite albums and guitar tones, I've been trying and failing to nail it for 20+ years.
Would love to see you try get the tone from soul of new machine, or the first two strapping young lad or static-x albums.
Here is static x ua-cam.com/video/mMfFw3RULvE/v-deo.html
@@CIRCLEOFTONE cool thanks, I'm just going through all your tone recreations now.
Thanks man, Fear Factory blaring in my house now thanks to this vid. Been ages.
I agree fully, forums and youtube channels all do the same thing and suggest the same thing. Ie how to record drums, guitar, bass etc. Things become a bit of rule (kinda like a religion) and if someone deviates from it some folk jump on slagging them for not doing it right... as if there is a right way of doing things.
As for the scooped thing... I get the concept of keeping mids but I think it all depends on the whole song. When they scooped mids the whole production suited it. Also I am sure the amp used and its eq curves is relevant in this discussion. Scooping mids on one amp will be on different frequencies than other amps. etc etc... sorry beer!
Yep. Imo mids is more relevant for live and 9 strings etc. I mean he is a 7 string guy, still scooped and it’s still clear as day.
I tried out Dino's ProTone Overdrive. It is not gonna make you sound like Fear Factory, but it does clean up the low end very well so you get a bit of clarity on the attack...very good if you like to trem pick like Dino.
Love that song
Thanks Ben.
A few years back there was a video of a dude playing PVC pipes by slapping them with thongs (flip flops).
For some reason i think of Dino flogging the crap out of 4 different sized PVC pipes with flip flops when I hear this song..
In your quest to unravel the formula to flaming moe's #1 cocktail, could this be the Krustys Cough Syrup?
Lol