Best 3-Row SUV: New Mazda CX-90 vs 7 Rivals
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
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0:00 - Intro
0:58 - Mazda CX-90
4:53 - Honda Pilot
7:31 - WeatherTech Promo
8:14 - Hyundai Palisade
11:43 - Kia Telluride
14:34 - Toyota Highlander
17:05 - Subaru Ascent
20:02 - Nissan Pathfinder
22:42 - Mazda CX-9
25:51 - The Winner Is...
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These full-segment reviews are SO valuable to the consumer - well done all, and congrats to the winner!
Interesting that the Mazda got second despite being the newcomer. If the price is the only sore point compared to the 1st-place Hyundai, I'm willing to pay the price if I'm getting a better car. You can't ignore that inline 6 and rear-drive-based AWD architecture.
The 100 more lb-ft that the Mazda has over the Hyundai/Kia V6 is no-brainer especially in a people hauler.
what I don't understand is why talk about price, the cx90 turbo S has the same price as the honda elite and the hyundai, they cost the same here in the United States, 53 thousand dollars and with all its equipment, for me the turbo S is perfect since with the other two models that follow the turbo S we lose a passenger and the difference is minimal, so if within the 3 they have the same price I go with the cx-90 that has more power and is more elegant at the level of German vehicles
A Kia Sorento hybrid gets better gas mileage. Yes you get more power but I rather get 35mpg and still be relatively quick then sub 30s.
@@ChrisParayno Sorento PHEV doesn't even have a heat pump, is much smaller and has a lot less power.
The fact that the Hyundai Palisade in its 4th model year held it's own against much newer models deserves greater acclaim.
Mazda Cx 90 champion for me
I've never owned a Mazda, but the new Cx-90 is absolutely at the top of my list! Great video. Fair comparisons
Same me 😂
Ask them where your timing chain is on the engine then you’ll change your mind
@@MrKurdkiller Ask honda about their 3.5L cranks splitting in half and youll change your mind
Currently own a 21 CX-30 Turbo Premium and it's a stellar machine. With 2 kids and a dog and a lot of travel, I've been waiting for the CX-90. I'll likely be getting a 25 model after they've worked out any kinks from the first iteration.
Gorgeous car, Mazda CX-90 is now my favorite SUV.
I don't know what they mean by the price here in the United States, more directly in New York, the CX-90 TURBO S costs the same as the hyundai and the pilot in their highest versions, so if all 3 are at the same price, I'll go 100% with the new cx-90 since I get 340 horsepower and an interior that competes with German SUVs, I have a 2021 pilot and I was thinking of making a change to the 2023 but now I'm buying the cx 90 turbo s
If you use the third row on your Pilot, the cx90 will be a big downgrade. Zero foot room
It has one inch more than the vax-9 did
@@pinkisforpimps theoretically you could move up the second row seats slightly to solve that problem.
@@RemixerUltimateno the thigh support issue is still a problem . My family constantly uses the third row seats and that’s the reason we went with the Palisade. My 6ft son can easily go 8 hours in the rear seat
Highest hyundai is 52 highest cx90 I've seen was 63. Msrp no MA
This is my fifth’s Mazda from 3 standard then automatic,cx5 cx9 and now CX90 S .
No problem in 15 years.😊
I tested Palisade and CX-90 and ended up purchasing a CX-90. I have no regrets a month later
Goodbye to my beloved cx9, might not be what the market is looking for, but it was one hell of of a machine in terms of looks, handling safety.
Not to mention, it's reliability. I own a 2019 CX-9 and it's been problem free for 4yrs now. It drives beautifully and handles in a way that you feel your in control. I'll take the Mazda CX-9 over the palisade in a heartbeat.
Great review guys! I enjoyed the nuance of the commentary; how several of the non-winners would be perfect for somebody, or how the Mazda was the best vehicle if it was cheaper. Lots of great points made and no overwrought nit-picking on a particular pet peeve.
very informative, useful review
Convenient to omit that the CX90s can run on regular fuel but with a subsequent decrease in HP but still beats the competition.
Absolutely correct! And not only CAN the Mazda inline6 turbo S run on premium OR regular, IF you choose regular, there is NO decrease in torque (369 lb-ft on either fuel!) ..there is a a 21hp decrease with regular fuel....which puts it at 319hp, still above every other SUV in this comparison. Still, it was the CX-90 overall price that knocked it to 2nd place, and I agree that the cost of the Mazda will adversely affect its "overall value".
"Quaint, premium, german". On the CX90 interior. CX90 a blend of everything particularly German and Japanese. Kudos
Judging by the way Mazda is pricing the CX90, the base models competes with the mainstream segment while the top one can go head to head with the more premium brands and in my opinion and experience, the CX90 can easily topple the MDX, thanks to Acura for refusing to build a RWD platform and with that 10s ZF is completely a joke. Test drove a bunch of MDX in 2019 from 6 dealership in GTA area both have the same flaw in the tranny.
The new mdx has a honda built 10 speed auto, and they don't need rwd ,they have shawd 😉
Best comparison on ty for 3 rows suv. Kudos!
Mazda all day everyday
I had 7 of them and continuing
Zero problems 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Quality
I have a 2018 Honda Civic, 2 kids and a preggy wife. I need a suv that fits 3 car seats. Which suv would you recommend? My Honda Civic has been bulletproof, never had mechanical failures.
@@williamhickerson4316 cx 90 most likely
@@arman8097 Yea I'm on the fence between the XC90 and the 2018 Q7 Prestige. I really like the Q7 interior a lot more than the XC90. My only concern is major reliability issues with Audi.
@@williamhickerson4316 New Infiniti QX60. No more CVT to worry about.
Great review !!! I agree as a former palisade owner, now have a limited tucson. It was the best vehicle I've ever owned !!! Two knocks though are the engine would be better with 4cyl turbo like Santa fe sport. But you can't argue the value, and with the most options too !!
I test drove the CX-90 and then bought a 2023 Buick Enclave Avenir. Mazda was second choice and I watched the CX-50 & CX-90 roll outs for months berore they were available.
Loved the video and the comparison although I do not agree with the price justification.
Also for the next time you guys do the same comparison, would be good to talk and show more the third-row, since it is the topic and differentiation of these SUVs.
Love the Pathfinder
I own a 2024
Platinum. It’s awesome
This is Great.. Thank you. Could you do a similar one when the Grand Highlander launches..
Thanks so much.
Thanks for the review. Im struggling to choose between the CX90, The Palisade and The Highlander just now. The Highlander has an 8 month - 1 year wait (Im in Mexico) Mazda are quoting 4-7 Months for a CX90 and Hyundai only have one waiting on the palisade and so available 2-3 months locally. This review has helped me round it down to the Palisade and CX 90. If a garage in Mexico City can get me the CX 90 in 2-3 months Im likely to go with that. If not, the Palisade. Ive tested both and they are for me a mm apart as the tech is better in the palisade but the interior is nicer and the drive nicer on the CX 90
Up here in Alaska I like the Honda Pilot. 6-cylinder engine that can last >250,000 miles. No CVT transmission, 10-speed transmission that can last > 250,000 miles. Greatest width between wheel wells (50 inches) so I can easily fit a sheet of plywood or 2 XL dog boxes side by side in a Honda Pilot. Excellent All-Wheel Drive for winter driving up here in interior Alaska.
Honda service manual say after 105,000 miles adjust the valves. Because this is a V-6 engine, it could easily cost you $400-$500 to have the valves adjusted.And nothing insure from mechanics mistakes. I don't like this engine... Change belt... It's not good.
@@point4894 The V-6 has been a great engine for us...now at 259,000 miles and compression test is great.
@@RetrieverTrainingAlone it need more attention and repair because this engine has belt and doesn't have hydraulic compensators (valve). If you do it it's good engine, but i don't like when car need more attention and money. How often do you change belt and regulate valves?
@@point4894 Timing Belt at 150,000 miles.
@@RetrieverTrainingAlone the instructions specify the interval 105000 miles
1. Cx 90
2. Telluride
3. Palisade
4. Pilot
5. Pathfinder
6. Highlander
7. Cx 9
8. The rest.
All these reviewers are basing their opinion based on top trimester of cx90 like signature... I think if you compare lower trims cx90 and lower trim of telluride or palisade then cx90 will not be at top.. what are your thoughts.
Where's Ford explorer, Gmc Acadia, Chevrolet Traverse, Jeep Grand Cherokee, Dodge Durango, Volkswagen Atlas, Mitsubishi Outlander?
The mazda is not on this category level. It should be on the BMW Mercedes and audi level.
I think if it comes down to price and it's close, then you have to take into account what the lease rates vs finance rates posted by the manufacturer on their main site. For the average buyer, every dollar counts on a monthly basis.
We just need mazda to put quad exhaust tip(fake or real, idc) and add 1-2 more inches of foot space to the third row, then it's the perfect car for me.
Mazdas infotainment is the best solution and design in this bunch as many European studies have shown, fact that you don't get it and pick cheesy , smeary out of position touch screen like from my ex 2008 CX-9 is a joke and makes you look like amateurs....than comes third row that is truly designed for kids NOT adults and if adults get in there it is there for short few mins trips and for that 3 row that in CX-9 or 90 are perfectly ok . Than comes the price where CX90 can be bought for just over 40Kusd and that is a steal!!!
Well equipped and sooo much better built and finished than others here .
Last point , this CX90 can easily be cross shopped in low 40K generic price range destroying cheaper competition and high end trims where is can be a real option to X5 or X7 with ton of cash saved ...
About your comments on the Mazda infotainment system, a bit harsh but true 👍
@@iceman.83 only because someone is lazy not to go thru learning curve of adjusting to awesome control knob and that someone favors much more primitive and non ergonomi system of cheesy early 2000s touch screen only because there is no learning curve but than all the drawbacks forever . Mazdas system is the big reason to buy a Mazda .
So happy for Mazda. Beautiful car 👍
Think very carefully before test driving the CX90 Signature. Once you take it through a couple of corners, it can become addictive. I was planning on a Pilot or a Telluride, depending on delivery, but one drive convinced me to go with the CX90. There’s a 3 to 4 month wait for the Mazda, but the dealer pulled a rabbit out of their 27:45 hat and I will have my 27:45 Signature “Blackout Edition” in 3 weeks.
still rather go with the cx90. Hyundai is 100% going to make you pay for that difference in price sooner or later
That's a nice "2003" Ascent, especially being that it's 20 years old. Lol.
I was going to say that 😂
I thought I was the only one that heard 2003 lol
I have to go back three times to make sure I heard that correctly.
I test drove a cx-90 and I recommend you go in and see it in real life… It is a lot bigger than it seems… I wasn’t overly impressed by the drive, but I only got to drive in heavy traffic, no highway driving. I’ll eventually give it another shot by the end of summer. I’m stuck between a Toyota Highlander or the CX-90…
u are not stuck at all...... Mazda is "the car".
@@Luciano-ILmeow..
This is not the goal of the Mazda CX90. They made that car to compete with Acura and Lexus among others. Ofcourse the Mazda will be more the the Hyundai, but when you compare The CX90 to an Acura, you are getting more bang for your buck with mazda. It’s cheaper and offers near the same. Unfair to put the mazda below because of price.
You are absolutely right
Spot on ranking. The tester Palisade black interior did it no favors but the lighter color interiors are gorgeous on it. CX90 is the best driver of the group but is way too expensive when no one is really hooning there three row suv so it’s less relevant
have a 2020 CX-30 ' believe me it has all the safety features ' efficient fuel economy
Mazda cx 90 is the only way to go.
Just purchased the CX90 and absolutely love it! Amazing exterior and interior. Feels more like a German car than a Japanese car.
Same here, after owning a mazda 6 signature, ended up test driving both cx90 turbo s premium plus and palisade calligraphy. Ended up with the Palisade and the luxury feeling i get is very similar to Germans and especially with that price tag it was a steal. It drives like a 80 grand suv. CX90 was great but too cramped on the inside for my needs. Have a 2 kids and a dog. Mazda needs to improve on the space and cargo. Mazda had the best engine though.
I loved the video but how do u guys leave off all American suvs? The explorer is one of the best selling??? Chevy traverse?
Mazda comes up short on cargo capacity and I'd prefer a fully capable touchscreen as well as the dial (for those who like it). Give options like BMW do! No question the CX-90 will be the best handling and most engaging to drive. Not loving the new style shifter though. The Pilot is a solid choice just wish they had more interior color options and more available features for the Trailsport like an Elite Trailsport trim maybe!
Just now saw this... I've had two Mazdas (626s) in my long car career. Each went over 250,000 miles. I like Mazdas... BUT, I keep my cars a looong time...7-8 years +... The CX-90 might work if you only plan to keep it 50K miles or so...but when the timing chain needs to be replaced at 100K miles, bring the bank. Why? Because the genius Mazda engineers put the timing belt at the REAR of that in-line 6. You will have to REMOVE the whole damn engine to get at it... and what will THAT cost in man hours? See the review by the "Car Care Nut". Naw... for me, it's the Honda Pilot hands down. I can live with a little less fuel mileage for the reliability and longevity of that V6 and 10 sp transmission. Now... if Honda could just upgrade the Infotainment display for 2025... I'll break out my checkbook. (See Honda Pilot Review by "Savage Geese", "Car Care Nut" or "Alex on Autos")
Honda display is just fine. People have gone over the top with that when a car is for driving safely, comfortably, and reliably in style from one place to another. Hardly anything does that.
@@sunnygirl9691Honda service manual say after 105,000 miles adjust the valves. Because this is a V-6 engine, it could easily cost you $400-$500 to have the valves adjusted.And nothing insure from mechanics mistakes. I don't like this engine
I fully agree with you guys after carefully examining and checking. Great job!
There is actually wireless phone charging in the ascent. But only in the US.
1. Honda pilot
2. Toyota highlander
3. Subaru ascent
Palisade/telluride will burn oil, visibility issues, electrical issues, seat issues, fuel economy and many more, oh sorry these guys doesn't say this in their reviews. And the worst of all "resale value" after 3-5 years.
I'd say based your car purchase decision on the resale value of the vehicle, that alone will tell you a lot why these vehicles are better than everyone else. Thank me later.
Honda service manual say after 105,000 miles adjust the valves. Because this is a V-6 engine, it could easily cost you $400-$500 to have the valves adjusted.And nothing insure from mechanics mistakes. I don't like this engine
How are people in love with the Pilot..? The CRV looks way better than the Pilot... The Telluride's interior and exterior look way better than the Pilot as well...
How is the highlander XSE a fair comparison for interior and screen size when the platinum screen is bigger and interior is nicer. You said it was one of the cheaper options which it would've been more comparable with the platinum option
1: Honda Pilot 👍🏽 👍🏽
2 Nissan Pathfinder 👍🏽👍🏽
3 Toyota Highlander
No voltswagon atlas, gmc Acadia, ford explorer, Chevy traverse, Jeep grand Cherokee l, Buick enclave, Toyota 4 runner, Kia sorento.
Nice review. For me it would be the Pilot or the Telluride
Love Mazda
Would have loved to see this review inclusive of the american rivals too, granted the jeep couldn’t make it but the traverse and explorer are both absent as well.
We invited every manufacturer, but no Explorer, Traverse, Acadia, or Durango were available at the time of filming either.
, gmc Arcadia
I love how those high selling models that have been around for years weren't available but a pre-production Mazda was.
It's funny that the Ford explorer that out sell all these was not available you guys are fucked
“Not available” or “we’re too embarrassed by our crappy products to let you compare them to their rivals”
Platinum pathfinder is amazing. Especially for the price point, and in my opinion other than the CX-90, it is the best looking
BTW Engineers love the CX90, mechanics hate the CX90. The belts on the CX90 are placed on behind the engine (worst place) mechanics need to either drop the engine or pull it out to get to it. Yall can imagine the labor when the time comes for anything mechanical. Other than expensive maintenance, it's a good car.
yes, mazda cx-90 also has DCT transmission, not classical AT! This guys nothing understand in car. Ignore such important things so stupid
Had no doubt in my mind it was gonna be the Palisade. Same response and results as almost every other comparison video on UA-cam
Is there any reason why all the domestic Brands three rows were left out and I think you missed the Volkswagen Atlas
Let’s go Mazda!
ZOOM ZOOM
Mazda hands down
Are the hyundais not burning oil anymore?
Date: 10/20/2023
location : San Antonio TX
Car: Kia Telluride sxp
Markup $3000！
The Palisade and Telluride are so similar, I don't see how one could get first place and the other doesn't even make top 3... 🤔
They said that the Telluride was less comfortable
They did say that all the vehicles were within 10% of each other and the difference between the top 2 was 0.5%. It's likely that the very uncomfortable second row was what did the Telluride in.
the Palisade looks better and the seats are WAY more comfortable.
Bravo palisade. Sad for the ascent which I own. What place was the ascent? Would love to have the palisade but with all the dealer markups I stayed away. The new Mazda is appealing but too expensive with a premium gas.i lime the Honda pilot but it's expensive and lacks the big screen entertainment center. Good video and I learned a lot.
CX90 does not require premium. AutoGuide guys omitted that bit of info.
I gotta search for a review on the Honda Passport
Mazda any day, all the time
You should wait to make this comparison when the Grand Highlander will be ready
Some journalists are commenting on how firm the seats are (at least in the 1st row, not sure about the others.) Did you have an observation on this?
Which vehicle are you asking about? The Mazda CX-90?
@@AutoGuide Sorry, yes, the Mazda CX-90.
Mazda reliability is as good as Toyota , the resale value is as good as Honda and the interior is as good as The European luxury car. CX-90 is the winner and most consumers will choose cx90 over Korea brand for sure .IMO
P.S Mazda cx90 price is not much different with the Palisade
I don't think the palisade/tulliride is the actual competition. A more apples to apples would be the sorento
@@ChrisParayno I think they compared for all three row Xover with max 8 passengers seat configuration not 7 . Sorento's main rivals are Mitsubishi outlander and ford Xplorer etc .
@@ChrisParayno In what way? The Sorento is way smaller.
The CX90 will be towards the bottom of the class in sales because of the inferior third row and cargo space. Those are two of the things that drive sales in the family car segment and it lags the competition on both.
@@almassengale I'm not sure which one would people love to choose and buy My preference is clear that would be cx90 😌.
Mazda and Subaru are longitudinal engine layout. I would buy CX90 if there is RWD version available with $3k less than AWD.
front end of palisade is something i can't live with on daily basis
It’s insane that some companies are still doing only wired CarPlay and Android auto.
There is a reason for that, it is not tech related
great video!
I'll wait for the grand highlander in hybrid max in 2024.
Many routine repairs on cx-90 requires you to remove the engine
... beware. You guys should really include maintenance costs in reviews.
Unpopular opinion but I never liked the way the Telluride looks I actually prefer the Palisade
Same here
The Palisade was ugly pre-facelift with that horrendous grill. Now looks very nice with the new one.
I wish the grand highlander was released to be included and the Mazda would have been the not absolute top trim (I don't think it's worth an extra 10k)
Yes, we cannot wait to test the regular. 3.3 turbo CX-90. And putting it head to head with the Grand Highlander would be a great comparison.
Grand Highlander is in a different class than cx90. Highlander is more inline with the cx90 with similar cramped third row and behind third row cargo space. Grand Highlander is a bigger vehicle!
@@al151 Bigger is not better period
@@kdomster9141 interior space and especially cargo space bigger is a better vehicle for 3 row suvs. What is the point of 3 row then? Go buy a 2 row!
I haul extras cargo where extra few cubic feet of space would be useful once a year , and I drive everyday so argument that because there is little more space in one vehicle over the other is valid once a year the way vehicle drives is valid every time I get in 365 days a year.
It is much easier to build large vehicle but much harder to make it surefooted and driving great not to mention to look at and really enjoy at the cost that CX90 sells for ...
How can you not add manufacturer warranty to your decision making process? some cars in that list have only 3yr while others (like the Hyundai and Kia) have 5yrs. That should have more weight than ambient light or some other useless function.
Yes the winner is Hyundai Palisade! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
The best one its the ACURA TYPE S LUXURY, LOOKS AND RELIABILITY!!!
Palisade and Durango Are the Best SUV in The comparisons
A 3-row SUV test, where the 3rd row isn't tested.
This comparison is helpful to consumers In understanding the similarities and differences between models. However, picking a winer is objectively unrealistic. Why? because the criteria chosen is very subjective. Size? Suspension and handling? Fuel economy? Expected reliability? Cost to own? (BTW: if cost is so important, why not include cost to own - not price, but 5 year cost to own).
What happened to the Ford Explorer? Not updated recently enough? Or the rest of the American models for that matter? Did the companies not offer to send you their vehicles (I probably wouldn't send you a Ford Explorer to go up against the other much better interiors)? I'm not a big fan of these vehicles, but to have zero American models seemed a bit odd to me.
Yes, we invited the American entires, but none were able to provide us with a vehicle during testing. We would have loved to have the Jeep Grand Cherokee, Dodge Durango, Chevrolet Traverse, GMC Acadia, and Ford Explorer in this comparison.
I wish that you would show the actual scores for all cars and all categories
No touch with rotary knobs is not a con. It’s a major advantage that makes mazda stand out. It’s the only manufacturer that has this in the non-luxury space.
Can’t believe the best of the best Explorer isn’t here
Why use the price of the optional engine when the base engine of the Mazda already is much more powerful than competitors? Take a look at torque numbers. It's basically the same engine, just with a de-tuned top of the rev range. You should have rated it based on the price of the base engine.
For our comparisons we must evaluate the vehicles that are on hand. The CX-90 would be missing other features as well with the 3.3 Turbo engine instead of the the 3.3 Turbo S. We do hope to drive/compare a regular Turbo model sometime soon.
Interesting you guys didn’t do the Chevy traverse or the ford explorer and the jeep grand Cherokee, I guess there are way to many cars in this segment
We’re is the Acaida, Traverse and Enclave ?
GM was unable to provide us with a test vehicle during our comparison. We have the Acadia coming up in another head to head comparison.
Where is the JGC?????
Doesn't the top end CX-90 only come in 6 seats with smaller 2nd / 3rd row and less storage in the back then it's competitors? Seems lacking when talking about usability/practicality of a 3 row SUV.
Where’s the MDX ?
Mazda Cx-90 best
What about the Ford explore
A generic front wheel drive Hyundai is rated 1st, instead of the brand new rwd-based 340hp inline 6 Mazda CX-90? Haha, okay.
the Hyundai is a better choice for the segment. the Mazda is a wanna be BMW sports SUV with subpar interior space and so-so tech (lane assist and infotainment don't function as well as the Palisade's). the seats and ride are more comfortable in the Palisade too.
where was the WV Atlas?
The new model won't be out until the summer and it isn't fair to use a vehicle that's already being replaced.
@12:21 the best dash of them all Mazda is the only rear wheel drive
Mazda cx 90 competes with Acuras, german cars and lexus of this world. It may not be completely up there withe Germans but very very close. So its unfair to put them against this segment
How’s the Atlas not here?
The new model is not available to test as of yet.