This Is NOT A Good Idea...
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2022
- AEW is looking to release CM Punk and I don't think this is a good idea...
AEW and CM Punk are working on a contract buyout for the remainder years of his deal meaning that he’s most likely not going to return to the company. The only thing stopping them from officially moving forward is the non-compete clause that Tony Khan wants to include in the details. This is not a good idea for All Elite Wrestling and I’ll happily explain.
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The internet would explode if punk somehow returns the wwe
That’s why Khan is wanting that no compete clause for an amount of time lol
@@OfflineFeeds yeah! Hey can you search MGT WRESTLING
will it, I don't it would be good for WWE as I feel like trouble follows Punk everywhere
Will never happen, WWE wouldn't even take him back when FOX was pushing for it. The guys a douche and nobody wants to work with him. EVERY place he goes, he causes problems and people hate him.
Harrd!
Finally someone acknowledging both sides of the story what punk did was horrible but let’s not act like the elite are innocent that’s the type of behavior that made Cody leave in the first place
Cody left because of Tony not the Elite
@@DannyZucko21 Yes but he also left because the Elite was isolating him
@@DannyZucko21 The Elite drove him out. It's been reported by many. TK might have also wanted him out but it's definitely The Elite more.
@@KC-vx5wo That's exactly what happened, the only reason he'll never talk about it is because both sides signed NDA's.
Punk to me was like a bear in this situation. He was being repeatedly poked for weeks and months by the Elite and the Dirt Sheets, is it really a surprise when he finally snaps and tells them off? You can argue he could’ve handled it more professionally but you can’t exactly blame him when he was pushed to this quite frankly
Imagine if instead of buying him out you let him turn back into the straight edge punk heel character that made him so big in the first place. The world would explode. I don't see how you can let someone of his talent go.
He is not worth the trouble.
You want another Hulk Hogan?👀
@@almadinjohnchristophers.9014 I mean hogan really only cared for himself in WCW and punk looked like he was gonna be another big star like if anything him beating MJF in that first rivalry wasn’t bad because look where MJF is now. He’s a bigger and more major star, but sadly punk wants to be that big guy tbh. He couldn’t handle losing a promo battle against Hangman. And I bet whatever you want I get a sneaky feeling Punk wasn’t gonna put MJF over for the world title.
@@daniellim4649 oh yes the man who’s been directly responsible for their highest ratings and merchandise sales(up until the Acclaimed) is definitely not worth the trouble of keeping.
@@svg8891 He was definitely going to put MJF over big. He even let MJF get TWO wins over himself. Punk would have been huge in AEW if the Elite would have just left him along and played with their tag team and six man titles. Let Punk and coworkers put on compelling main event storylines and the elite and friends can put on their athletics acrobatics fairytales.
He got the whole world in his hands
Speaking of CM Punk aligning himself with the Ex-WWE guys, they could really do a WWE vs the 4 pillars of AEW match. Such good shit.
Punk, Jericho, Christian & Hardy (4 old Ex WWE guys) VS. MJF, Jack Perry, Darby & Sammy (4 Pillars & the future)
@@NoelJames_ Or maybe punk joins blackpool combat club and they all beat the hell out of wheeler yuta and that's when MJF assembles all the other pillars and go against them.
If it was anyone else other than vince and tony it would have been on tv
@@I_Aizen_Sosuke i was thinking the same
The promo segment between Triple H & CM Punk on Smackdown makes all sense now. Triple H said nothing but the truth about Punk.
Youre very correct.
How many times are you morons going to repeat what everyone else says? And you have a punk pfp so hold your L
Facts💯
That's so crazy, back then we just assumed hunter and Vince was just being a asshole, and especially in 2014 we really felt like wwe dropped the biggest ball since Austin left in '02. But what's crazy Cm punk became the villain he was going against just a decade ago. Punk stated in 2012 on Dwayne coming back would just be him stealing the spotlight from the younger guys, while in 2022 punk is doing the same thing .
Exactly what I was thinking. Looking back on it, CM Punk was pushed so much and still just whined and moaned about his position in the company. He thinks he's tenfold better than he actually is. His best promo and one of the best of all time, the pipebomb is him whining about John Cena being considered better than him and him not main eventing Wrestlemania. News flash, Cena and Rock are a lot better than him and deserved to main event that show. CM Punk, the pipebomb and everything was so popular and we all loved him but looking back on it now, it's completely tarnished. CM Punk has forever ruined his legacy
So, Tony wants to fire the guy who's given them their first ever million dollar gate, brought tons of ex-WWE fans to his brand and is still one of the biggest names in the business despite a 7-year hiatus to appease the weasels who've done nothing but satisfy the indie marks?
Wow, what a genius!
I get it but in the long run punk not worth the hassle at all. He's too injury prone & how he handled himself in that interview confirmed literally everything that people has said about punk in the past. He could've said all that behind closed doors. AEW will be fine without him. If khan keep him it'll kill morale in the locker room & he'll lose hella respect from the wrestlers he employs
Sure it might not be a good idea but it would be a worse Idea for Tony to keep him despite everything. I think morale would tank if he kept him and paraded him after this whole debacle.
Edit:thx 4 the like
He should be Kept it's not his Fault he was attacked by VP & bad handling bring him back
@@holdthetruthhostage You don’t know if he was ATTACKED or not but I think Punk’s should apologise to the fans and AEW for the trouble regardless of he was right or wrong in this situation
@@NehaGupta-gq9ce what is wrong with you the man was attacked by three men, while bleeding tired & talking to his friends wife. Look how low you will sink to defend the Elite Skum who were quoted as not wanting to hire over 60% of the people wrestling. TONY better work this out with Punk & release the Elite. Punk breaks UA-cam ads attention to the product to the benefit of all of the wrestlers & you would rather choose the Greedy Bucks who forced their second Tag Team Tittel Reign, & forced the trois Belts & would not count Cody's contribution to AEW.
The Elite are nothing more than 3 Head serpents
@@holdthetruthhostage you just making things up at this point lol.
@@holdthetruthhostage actually the quote was kenny saying "If I was in charge I wouldn't hire 8/10 of you" so 80%
New video coming: The moment that Phil Brooks ruined CM Punk
I’ll be waiting for that 😂
Not a bad idea honestly
LOL
😂😂😂😂😂
But he did do anything wrong
Cm punk could make a good on screen authority figure since he'll have some restrictions
Annnouce it as TBS/TNT have made CM Punk the on screen authority figure. And we eventually get Khan V Punk and Tony gets to have his first match 🤷♂️
@@craigbiggam2111 Keeping Tony off TV is for the better.
@@craigbiggam2111 ……..no
Punk coming back as a heel could bring some serious heel hogan heat to the show. Somebody needs to just sit everybody in the same room and talk it out. Idc who is to blame, they're all to blame, think about the bigger picture and the fans.
I agree punk doesn’t need to be fired, he needs to come back as a heel. Cause a lot of fans turned on him including me because of the press conference it’s best for bissness plus he’s more bitter as a heel
Tony Kahn needs to do that, he's the one firing cm punk
Tony is a weak leader. A weak guy he wont be able to handle it.
@Cryo-Mancer boy someone speaks like an idiot. Who do you think draws then your precious elite lol. Punk can sell tickets anywhere else where wrestling is popular. No one pays for elite other than in the indies and japan
Turning this real life beef between Punk & The Elite into a storyline is actually the best option so they can move pass everything and get on board with making more money for both parties and this can definitely help the viewership increase
The problem with going that route is who's ego will lay down for the 3 count?
@@DudleyDawg won't be up to them it'll be up to Kahn and they will have to deal with that
@@slapbass8723 and then we have another Austin Aries moment
@@slapbass8723 Tony Kahn doesn't command the kind of respect and control to handle that kind of situation.
Just because Vince McMahon is capable of pulling it off doesn't mean Tony can without making things worse.
@@slapbass8723 Tony has no balls to pull that trigger to one of them, he is acting like a shy friend while being the boss of them.
CM Punk - "Sh** I'm gonna have to call that doofus son in law"
Lol
Punk don’t need to do anything. He’s got plenty of that fuck you money.
LMAO
I agree. Tony Khan firing CM Punk is going to be THE biggest mistake he ever made in his life. Punk is what gave AEW A LOT more views when he returned.
They are doing fine without him though, and they got a million views before he was there as well.
He wasn't the only reason they got a million views they've done it without him and will do it again cm punk is wrong in this situation
@@Raytheman581 AEW is not about making money anyway since TK has so much of it. It's for him to book like he always dreamed as a kid so it's all good. Elite can stay and Punk can be bought out and everyone's happy.
@@ahmadceasar5484 FACTS aew was doing fine pre punk era.
Nah, they'll be fine.
Ever since Triple H become in charge, Aew has been doing rock bottom, and getting rid of Cm punk won't help things.
The Elite and Hangman started this whole situation and Punk is the man getting blamed for this whole situation, thats not fair
You never know it could be a Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carry type situation with triple H doing what’s best for business.
Apologies for being uncultured and unknowledgeable, but what happened with Jim Carrey and Tommy lee jones?
@@afeef8502 facts I wanna know too
@@afeef8502
Tommy Lee Jones didn't like Carrey. For no other reason than he was annoying as shit but they still ignored it and worked together
Those two worked together In the Batman movie they were best friends in the movie but Tommy couldn’t stand Carry
@@afeef8502 if you had watched batman forever Riddler and two face decided to work together which was best for both of them instead of making it personal as they didn't like each other is what he means. Same as cm punk and triple h, they should put their differences aside work together to bring wwe back up and make wwe games great again.
Imagine at your work, multiple high level managers physically assault a lower level employee, and the managers keep their jobs?!?!
What is this crap. Terrible decisions..
FINALLY someone with a voice that agrees with me on this whole thing….especially the Hangman thing
He should have been suspended too
Listen to Jim Cornette lol
@@yusufgazi7 aside from him lol
Something makes me have a bad feeling about this
Very sus indeed, Nate TV.
Who said he's being fired and got rid of? What if Punk has had it and wants out and Tony gave it to him? It could be a situation where Punk doesn't want to work in a company with these guys. They go, he's in. Probably similar, the Elite doesn't want to come back with Punk there after that altercation. So something had to give and Punk is stepping out and saying adios
Say what you want, CM Punk draws the crowds
because the crowd is as delusional as a sheep?
LMAO OK sheep
I know exactly how punk feels. Having your own peers tryna sabotage all your efforts. An then having enough to a point were you gotta stand up for yourself against everyone that's burying you an making you miserable an then being made out it's all yourself when it's actually them. Team punk all the way
"When all problems revolve around you, then most likely you're the problem."- Gandhi
+1
@@Khabibullah guess Gandi underestimated the power of jealousy an pettiness that can drive a human to the most stupid an ridiculous of things
@@kyleskajaleska1887 there's a time for being a man and standing up for yourself and there's a time for being a professional. Punk easily could have handled it IN PRIVATE and BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. That's how real adults and actual professionals handle workplace grievances in the real world. Sorry, dude. There's no excuse for Punk here. I understand if he maybe felt he needed to defend himself. But he still handled it in the most UNPROFESSIONAL and PETULANT manner possible. Like Mick Foley recently said on the matter: "There's a right place and a right time for stuff like that and that was definitely not the time and place for that." And as we all already know that when Mick Foley is right, he's right. You can stand up for yourself while still maintaining your professionalism.
It's time to stop making excuses for Punk's shitty behavior. He's a grown adult and nobody else is responsible for his actions and behavior except himself. Not the Bucks. Not Omega. Not Page. Only Punk. I used to be a HUGE fan of Punk. But watching him have this petulant meltdown in front of the press and media rubbed me so wrong. He came off so badly during that media scrum and just validated all those stories and firsthand accounts we have heard for years of Punk's bad attitude.
@@kyleskajaleska1887 Punk could have just talked to Hangman, or TK about it when it all happened but he waited what like 2-2.5 months and did the same thing with going into business for himself.
Seeing punk back in wwe. After everything they did to him would be unbelievable.
There were wrestlers who had much more beef with WWE and they returned
@@BooguyTheAdept Example: Scott Steiner.
@@swavyypressure9417 hogan , and ffs bret hart
That doctor that sued him was recently let go. Coincidence? Maybe. Or they're preparing for CM Punk's return.
@@KA-rw6dm Warrior as well.
The first show to bring in 1 Mil was actually Double or Nothing this year.
Man, mox just finished the list for sidelining EVPs, Punk took care of the young bucks and Omega, Mox clotheslined the hell outta Hangman.
The Non Complete Clause is not just so he doesn't go to the WWE right away, it's literally to keep him from doing or saying anything about what happened, etc. I'm guessing it's the duration that they're not able to agree on, Tony probably wanting something more than 90 days and Punk wanting something shorter than that.
I seriously doubt Punk would return to the WWE---especially given his past problems with Hunter. I could MAYBE see them making him an offer because it's what's "Best for business" but I just don't see him going back.
That would be the NDA that would prevent them from saying anything about what happened. The non-compete is just to keep him from signing with another promotion.
@@KC-vx5wo I forgot about the NDA.
I 100% agree. The heat that this would have brought and I would have tuned in AEW for the 1st time. Lmao their loss
Jordan Poole and draymond have not moved on they’re just forced to play together Poole has said it himself that he hasn’t forgiven draymond yet
Man, every video involving that topic makes me sad and I just hope that in a few months everything will have worked out fine and that AEW will have made some decisions that improves their whole Situation again. AEW is the best opportunity of a competition company we had in recent years.
How so? They do roughly half the ratings as wwe and they are on the weakest night of the week. Aew has had higher ratings since all of them have been suspended. Better then keeping him
Ofc it's the best. But it's also a very very distant second. Booker's and owners better than TK have fell to the 'E. Tony only has the money but doesn't have the balls of the mind to own a company like this.
Lol, I pity you if you think TK can still get Punk back. 😂😂😂
Your so naive. They have never been competition. Just indy garbage wrestling
TNA got more people to view and their boss wasn't a mark for herself who thought she could write the shows. Instead she trusted the people she hired to do their jobs.
The same Internet Marks and "journalist" that are in AEW's pocket tried (and failed) their best to destroy the real best chance for competition we've had since WCW.
There isn't any proof Punk had nothing to do with Colt Cabana getting demoted to ROH other than just taking Punk's word for it.
What proof would you like there to be? I mean nothing they say or show will appease the marks.
@@KC-vx5woThis CM Punk fanboy is being based af & said it was proven he Punk had nothing to do with it in this video which is why I left this comment.
Yeah I agree AEW getting rid of CM Punk isn’t a good idea at all, I kinda agree with that if that happens it would be a big loss for AEW if that does happens he might return to WWE, but we don’t know we have to wait and see
Are you kidding? WWE wouldn't even take his ass back when Fox was pushing them to do it. NOBODY wants to work with a douchebag like CM Punk.
If he return to wwe this would destroy aew and especially with mjf talking about leaving 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Awesomely laid out, my dude. I was against this but you changed my mind with a sound argument
CM Punk returning in the 2023 Royal Rumble would be great
He's not coming under triple h nope he doesn't like punk
@@arcellwrld8172 and punk doesn't like him. Triple H actually buried the hatchet, punk still has anger issues and can't let go
CM Punk leading a faction of ex-WWE wrestlers against homegrown AEW wrestlers sounds like a great idea
So AEW probably won't do it!
Should that happen, I'm team Punk all the way.
If AEW cut ties with CM Punk I’m not watching AEW especially since this is unfair with the EVP’s throwing their weight around and they get a slap on the wrist because of politics both parties deserve to be hold accountable I don’t like Tony showing favoritism to the Elite if this happened
Finally somebody speaking what I've been saying 👏 👏👏 keep punk and use this drama to make money while also bucks and omega need to lose evp position for going in cm punk room if they were just regular talent then suspensions would be enough but as evps that what makes it worse they did that 😎🤟
Punk did this to himself, but there were others at fault. Everyone being suspended isn't enough if Punk is gonna get fired. Have the EVPs stripped of the positions along with the suspension. Let them cool off, work into an worked shoot, and give the company money while the audience enjoys the product. Also, Punk himself said he was old and prone to getting hurt more often. So, this should be the end of the road for Punk when his contract is over.
1:18 NAHHHHHH, THE FACT THAT THATS BARLEY AN EXAGGERATION IS INSANE
That's the difference between AEW and WWE.... Even Vince at his worst... He is about business.
I don’t want punk to leave AEW but if he does hopefully he goes to WWE
I don’t think he’ll ever go back to wwe. If I remember correctly punk hates hunter
@@at0mous True but if they can make a lot of money together and stick it to TK I mean I think they'd both be up for it. Use him sparingly to keep it special
Nah cause then he'll be watered down
ever since cody left aew, the company has had a bunch of drama
It Shows how much other evps are useless.
The Elite and Punk needs to squash this beef like grown Men and move on.
Yes, letting go of someone who is reportadly hated by half the locker room and was called a locker room cancer by Chris Jericho clearly is a bad idear, because you would not want to secure a positive work enviorment or protect your companys image.
Next up: Why WWE should bring back the Velveteen Dream.
Okay, I know this was mean sarkasm, but come on. If Punk truly is as hated in the locker room as we hear, calling it a bad idear to separate from him is just bizare.
Cm punk is a tale of a fallen hero who lost his way
He did it to himsef
Lost his way how?
If WWE rehires CM Punk, I say give him the biggest money making match possible at Wrestlemania as his first match, becuase odds are good you aren't getting any more matches out of him before he explodes again.
Or just don't hire him back at all, or at the very least keep him out the locker room.
@@KC-vx5wo If Austin is willing to wrestle again (Which he probably isn't) that is clearly the money match. If not then put punk against Roman. But I'm guessing Roman is wrestling Rock so I honestly don't know. HHH can no longer wrestle. Lesnar is a money match, but he already wrestled him.
Naw, we were already getting tired of the mixing IRL and Kayfabe in AEW before this. Leaning into it would be ruinous to the company. And Punk wants out - he knows he's old and can't go without getting injured every other match and is just done with it. I don't think he'd go to WWE aside from a one-off even if there were no noncompete since its an even more physically taxing company.
I don't think Punk is getting fired I think he wants out.
If Triple H can somehow control Punk (which is highly unlikely) i wouldn’t really want him back unless it’s a one off like the rumble
The problem would be the first thing you said right away. Nobody should be trying to control anybody especially an adult. Now Triple H trying to help him stay calmed down or more relaxed is a different story.
@@terrancecarmichael619 yea i phrased my first statement wrong.. i meant if he could control Punk’s temper and not let him get out of control like
@@DankPhett Ah I got it, yeah now that I agree with.
@@DankPhett punk doesnt have a big temper. he has had one incident in 25 years. vince and triple h spoke about him being a issue in wwe yes BUT that stuff never reached the fans. we all were upset cm punk left wwe. the worst thing he did in wwe is complain about john cena winning too much. thats literally it. he never hurt anyone. he NEVER touched cena or the rock backstage etc.
This was AEW's chance to get rid of the Young Bucks and Kenny Omega and make CM Punk the spearhead of an angle against the mark fans who have been catered to for too long dragging the program's appeal down.
But instead of ridding AEW from the guys who regularly make the rating go DOWN 200,000 people when they are featured they are releasing Punk who makes the ratings go UP 200,000.
Strange world we live in...
You bring up Jordan Poole and Draymond Green as a point, but KD and other NBA players say that type of fighting does NOT happen all the time, in fact, Kevin Durant has “never seen anything like it”. Also, you say “what would Vince do” with a straight face like he was a good guy. He is a terrible human being. Fundamentally flawed argument from you.
I still wanna see cm punk vs tanahashi
From what I heard the Elite brought head of the legal department with them to talk to Punk but then the fight happened
so why does TK have to buy out his contract? Why not just fire him for assault?
@@KC-vx5wo Punk could have a no cut clause in his contract? I'm just speculating and I'm not saying that's it. But it could be something in his contract that is making it more difficult to fire him. Tony Khan did recently let it slip that Punk's been "working in the office". So does that mean that Punk is an EVP as well? Management? Because if that's the case; I can see how that would make it much more complicated to just straight fire him.
They brought Megha, who is the number 2 in the company.
I really agree with your video and view on the situation since it would be good for business, especially since aew is going downhill. But there must be an issue with CM Punk, I mean there were problems in WWE and he's already created problems in aew even though he's only been in the company for like a year. Maybe I'm wrong though
Yeah man idk it's a strange & personal situation but I really wonder what truly went down in that locker room
I would have to disagree with you Pllana. First, some things to note.
1: There is no proof that The Elite leaked rumors about Phil Brooks. He said that they did in the scrum, but this is a he said she said situation.
2: They didn't barge in, they went with the head of legal to talk. Then Phil threw the first punch. They didn't barge in, they didn't instigate, Phil did.
3: Phil buried the entire company in that scrum. He even interrupted Tony, making him look like a powerless lackey. This isn't just two guys not getting along.
4: From what reports say, most of the locker room is anti-Phil. So keeping him around can have repercussions for morale.
Now as for the numbers, true, he has done a lot. But who's to say he can't get replaced? People said Vince couldn't replace Hogan. He did with Shawn and Bret. People said he can't replace them. He did with Austin and The Rock. People said he can't replace them. He did with John Cena. People said he can't replace him. He did with Roman Reigns. And it looks like Bron Breakker is next in line. Sure that won't happen with Vince in charge, but Vince obviously hand picked him to be the next megastar.
Sure Tony isn't Vince McMahon, but they do have guys I feel can be that replacement. Hangman Page, Wardlow, MJF, these guys are potential big draws for AEW, Tony just needs to commit.
Then there him going to WWE. I don't see that happening. Phil doesn't like Triple H, and he doesn't like Phil either. Not to say Triple H wouldn't be open to it if it's for business, but Phil Brooks is notorious for holding grudges. And honestly, would they even want him? He was a headache for them before, and allegedly said to let him be AEW's headache. Is it possible? Yes. But is it probable? I doubt it.
Literally all of what you said is untrue except maybe 4 to a certain extent
@@martyscurllisinnocent4324 How so?
@@napalmblaziken Well first, even before the media scrum, multiple wrestling news sites were saying that the Young Bucks were going backstage saying that Punk was using his influence to get Cabana fired
Second, multiple people have said that the Young Bucks did barge in, that's why Punk threw the first punch. Also, Kenny didn't save Punk's dog, he has a HUMAN bite mark on the inner part of his wrist. That mark would be there if you had your arm around someone's throat and they bit you to get you off. I speak from experience
Third, he didn't bury the whole company, he buried the EVP's who have history of being little sh*** backstage going all the way back to PWG when someone didn't like how they wrestled, they were humiliated and then fired.
@@martyscurllisinnocent4324 First, keep in mind that these are the same sites that said Malakai Black was released from AEW, despite him saying that he isn't, he's just taking time off.
Second, I don't know why you brought up the bite marks, I didn't bring that up at all. And also, Phil's side has backed down from the barging in thing. They didn't kick down the door, they went in with the head of legal and talent relations.
Third, he did bury the company. He also went after Hangman and MJF to an extent. As well as making TK look powerless.
@@napalmblaziken third it’s still burying evps not the company whether you think he took look powerless is up to you he was just talking he said nothing about mjf and hangman is a evp and part of the elite so what the guy said about your third point is kinda true
I don't think that firing Punk would be a risk for AEW because if Kenny Omega, the Young Bucks and Adam Page basically tells Tony Jhan that if Punk remains in AEW they'll like walk out of the company or do like Cody Rhodes did and not renew their contracts then he'll more or less be forced to get rid of Punk because having the 3 executive vice-presidents of your company go to WWE will make it even worse for AEW. You already have most of the former NXT top stars are either publicly or secretly they had been more patient and stayed with WWE. You have to put the pros and cons in the situation: you fire CM Punk and you give him let's just say a 90 days non compete close that you add to the time he'll need to recover from his injury (at the time I'm writing it would mean approximately 10 months) and he goes to WWE it's going to break the Internet and everybody will be talking about it non stop for sure and people will think Tony Khan is an idiot but at one point let's be realistic for 5 seconds nowadays CM Punk is basically a 43 years old glorified injury proned, problem causing failed MMA fighters that only remains relevant on things he did 11 years ago and by mentioning WWE (despite the fact he claimed multiple times that it made AEW look inferior which is kinda true especially when it was the Young Bucks who mentioned it to Y2J that made them look like absolute idiots). That plus the fact that it's very unlikely that Triple H and CM Punk could ever get along, now I know that HBK and Bret Hart managed to bury the ashes despite the Montreal Screwjob and having HBK abusing of his backstage power to screw over the British Bulldog and Owen Hart and in wrestling you can never say never but I still find it unlikely that either of them would ever get along one day. Also you'd have to take into account the possibility that the WWE locker room could be hostile to a CM Punk arrival which would be understanding if we're being honest 5 minutes. Obviously I over exaggerate things a bit but on the other hand you have Hangman Adam Page who's 31, Kenny Omega who's 39 and the Bucks who are respectfully 37 (Matt) and 33 for Nick, all of them being younger, less injury prone and 3 of them are EVP of your biggest rival so if I'm the WWE if I'm looking to take the most interesting bargain I'd take everyday Page, Omega and the Bucks. Now for sure Punk way more than the 4 of them combined (let's face it however in AEW basically you take Punk, Jericho, Jeff Hardy, Jon Moxley and Bryan Danielson and they draw way more than the rest of the roster) but the WWE already have draws such as Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins, Logan Paul, Ronda Rousey and Brock Lesnar so it's not too much of an issue for them
Good read that. Interesting opinion☝️
@@joeyladd8841 thanks. It's just to say that firing CM Punk is not as bad for AEW as a lot of people think. I mean it's going to cost them a ton of money but even then the positive kinda outweigh the negative because it shows that Tony Khan is not just an immature billionaire that spends his time complaining on twitter and desperately trying to hype you so much for every AEW shows that it ends up doing the contrary as well as flexing about the amount of ex WWE wrestlers he has and that he owns a Premier League club (Fulham FC) and he has actual authority. You can say whatever you want about Vince McMahon but when he had to take an unpopular decision or when someone had to be fired he did it. That would also show to the other ex WWE big names (Mox, Jericho and Danielson. Yeah to me Matt Hardy and Christian are what happens when you take Jeff Hardy and Edge and you take away every ounces of charisma they have) that he can punish you regardless of how big you are. If I was Tony Khan I would fire CM Punk then fire a few members of the roster because yeah he's plenty of talent but some of them are super overrated in my opinion ( Derby Allin to me is a water down version of Jeff Hardy, like he can't even outdo him in terms of sick bumps despite the fact that he's at the dawn of his legendary career. And Samy Guevara who's basically an inferior Andrade and he's visibly unably to properly sell a move (most indie wrestlers are completely incapable of doing it like Kenny Omega's way of selling is atrocious as are his promos which are some of the worst heel promos I've ever heard in my life. It seems that most of the wrestlers who are able to properly sell moves). Also one of things that could make it worse for AEW is if let's just say Paige on her first match she injures herself (or even worse which I hope will not happen because she's one of my 3 favourite female wrestlers ever with Lita and Becky Lynch) or if Sting injures himself and Jeff Hardy either seriously injure himself or someone that would also make people understand why they relased/ fired Jeff Hardy and didn't wanted Sting to wrestle Taker the year of his amazing Boneyard match againstStyles (I understand it's frustrating but to me had Sting directly gone to the WWE instead of going to TNA we could have had plenty of amazing matches between the two icons so to me it's Sting's fault if we never have had a match between them) that would have a serious impact on their reputation and people will probably asked themselves who made her pass tests and I can understand it was frustrating that she was never used but put yourself in WWE's position : having Paige wrestle would be super dangerous but when she was tried as a manager it was an absolute flop (now you could argue that the Kabuki Warriors and Paige aesthetically speaking didn't matched at all and I think she could have done far better with a heel Liv Morgan or Ruby Riott who both have a punk/ metal vibe but even then she's not the best talker so even with one of those I doubt it would have worked either
Tony doesn’t have that Vince mind he’s gonna miss this opportunity
Bro first of all fully respect for making this in detail video bro
Absolutely see from fully mature point of view just because of some heated minds doesn't mean the consequence like this huh 🙄
It's sad y'all blame punk when the elite started all of this and punk was simply defending himself
OMG, a heel faction of ex-WWE wrestlers led by Punk would be such a huge heat magnet. Call the faction "Superstars"! ('course that probably couldn't happen since Superstar is trademarked, afaik. Still, one can dream :P)
Sadly it'll never happen. So much money left on the table.
I like this. Call them “The Titans of Wrestling”…
Biased much?
If he keeps CM, it will not hit well with the locker room, unfortunately CM fucked everything. Now it’s time to move on .
Pllana Productions: The voice of Reason! Thank you!
Finally someone with a sane take
Cm punk did nothing wrong.
"Nothing wrong" is just being delusional, no one person involved is innocent. Also why is it a sane take? Because he said what you wanted to hear?
your take is insane and delusional. What do you mean he did nothing wron..... ok, you are a cmp punk fanboy, maybe I shouldn't expect something smart to come out of your nonexistent brain
Even though he already returned it was still be absolutely insane to his intro pop on WWE, especially for those who don't really watch AEW.
If AEW does not go forward, I would hope to see him return to WWE.
@Jaime A. Not that it's guaranteed to happen, but if it did, I wouldn't mind them signing a short term deal. And if it doesn't work out the Fox execs or Triple H can easily pull the plug after. Punk wouldn't have the same power in WWE, but would that be the reason he doesn't sign? That's the money question. That's of course assuming if he was bought out, which is not yet guaranteed. With a new regime, he could be happy again, who knows, a lot of guys have come back with burnt bridges in WWE. And if it dosen't work out, a short term deal would be mutually beneficial between fans, company, and Punk. Is it sad how it ended? Yes, but there can be new opportunity potentially to continue his legacy in wrestling. I don't see that as being bad. It's not liked he was kicked out of AEW for no reason.
@Jaime A. you will be the first one sucking his cock when he goes back to Wwe
Ok so Hangman went to business for him on the promo so you mean to tell us that punk didn't do the same thing during his press conference? Did any of you trolls watched how TK was reacting to what punk was saying? Yes the Bucks and Omega went to confront punk, but threw the first punch so basically he started the whole thing so no one can say that he was defending himself, because he threw the first punch. Now if you guys think that he is going to wrestle again you are dilutional he ain't going to Japan or WWE, because Triple H and Stephanie are going to bury him he is gonna have to put the youngsters over and he is not going to like it. Stephanie is going to kick him on the BALLS and he is not going to like it.
Not to mention that the elite who is Kenny Omega and the Young bucks are executive vice Presidents for aew, and all CM punk is is a wrestler which is wrong. EVPs don't act the way they did by spreading rumors, top employees don't act the way the media scrum went. Everybody needs to grow up talk about it and fix things
What is best for business ( Punk ) that's it .🔥💰️
he is honestly the worst for business since he is a giant man baby
I stand with CM Punk
Yessirrrrrr
Ace Steel should have been fired. As for the rest, mediate all the parties and see how they feel about moving forward and even turning it into a feud.The EVPs have much less to lose than Punk, because they will still make money off of AEW from their ownership stakes or whatever stock they have on the business end. Page may have lit the fire, but Punk poured gas all over it and threw the Bucks and Omega into it as kindling. As much as Punk has brought up other people's business in the ring - scripted, agreed upon or not - he deserves the brunt for starting the physical fight.
Going to talk to him while he is still heated is the best way to approach it since the raw and real emotions can be expressed and then worked through. Waiting for him to cool down wouldn't matter because everyone knows that Punk would just say it all over again and it could have still become a fight. At this point, it might really be better to just let Punk go instead of letting it boil back up by trying to make it a feud or doing worse by trying to ignore it and hope they work together with the tension thick in the air for maybe years.
See this is what I was saying. Why does Page just get off without any sort of reprimanding? And yes losing CM Punk may just be the beginning of the end for the hype around AEW. Can’t wait for them to be like Impact is now in 10 years.
Who's to say that Page wasn't reprimanded backstage? Either way a very vague and very unclear promo that he said to Punk's face is hardly a cause for major disciplining. Especially since I guarantee you that you probably didn't even notice it the first time around. I want to know why that little coward Punk waited three months to suddenly just dredge it up again out of nowhere, expecting everyone to know what the hell he was talking about, and waited until Page didn't have the opportunity to respond. Punk knew that Page wouldn't be able to respond. Not without making himself look bad by storming through gorilla. At least Page said what he said to Punk's face.
Sorry, dude. But the whole Hangman Page thing needs to be dropped and only makes Punk look petty and vindictive. It hardly holds any water and should be the last thing on everyone's mind right now.
Imagine if Baron corbin wears Cm punk attire, t shirt and hoodie use Cult and Personality theme
People wanting CM Punk to go back to WWE, I say HELL NO! The last thing they need is some controversy with this guy.
Punk was 100% correct about Page and The Elite, and wrestling "journalists", where he screwed up was how he addressed it.
Cm punk after the media scrum returning as a heel would be really entertaining and it would bring so many more eyes to Aew especially if he feuds with the elite
CM Punk always been overrated. Ever since he beat Jeff in 2009, I couldn't stand him. Then, he had that feud with Triple H like 2-3 years later and let his personal feelings get in the way of business. I knew Triple H was right when he said basically said CM Punk is all for change as long as it benefits him. He also stole Chris Jericho's "Best In The World".
I don't hate him but, he is overrated especially by his fans. He can cut a hell of a promo even beat The Rock on the mic back in 2013 but, he's no Stone Cold.
And you wrong putting that clip of Jordan Poole getting knocked out 🤣🤣🤣
Some people say that Punk should go to WWE but I don’t think he would go, If he goes to WWE in future then cool
Tony Khan is just a big child with lots of money giving us nostalgia and dream matches, but he doesnt know how to manage his company at all.
yeah, CM punk is in fault, dude got mad at someone who got off script which is very normal in aew seems like. He blasted AEW who he works for right next to the boss/CEO of aew. then started a fight with Mutiple people. Also, the locker room on elite side on this. CM talking about working for kids as he hasn't act like one in AEW, or even WWE. Also seems like AEW doing find without CM punk and should keep the younger people instead of someone who gets hurt and old.
CM Punk doesn't need AEW
AEW needs CM Punk
They can pull off a supervillain arc for punk by this drama adding fuel to his fire and in turn flipping his switch that can tak aew to greater heights.
And if all this is true and by any way CM Punk returns back to WWE, it's game over for AEW. Triple H can put all personal differences aside for the business and will push CM Punk to such heights the likes we'll never see.
Just because some losers online and in locker room are frustrated and are most certainly jealous doesn't give them the right to cancel a Legend like CM Punk.
Hate on my opinion all you want, but facts are facts and you all butthurts in my replies crying like a biaatch won't change that.
I'm with CM Punk on this situation.
You can't make false rumours of someone and expect no backlash.
I still hope this is all a work because it can lead to one of the best storylines of all time which will culminate in a CM PUNK VS KENNY OMEGA match For the AEW World championship.
The money they'll make is gonna be astronomical 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
CM Punk 43 YEARS: I'm old and I'm tired, and I'm working with children
Edge 49 YEARS: Doesn't complain working with young talent
Heel Punk as MJF’s manager for the next 10 years. Let’s see it
Im almost 100% sure that Punk wanted out, especially since they fired Ace Steel
Oh please. Hangman did nothing wrong. Punk is just real sensitive and invited controversy.
Aew needs 2 keep Cm punk.
Punk is bad for business. Guy gets injured after every big match especially if it's a title win.
Most likely Punk will walk out from AEW. I really like Punk and I think he has his own issues, but I think he is getting the same treatment he got in WWE. I think this is one of the reasons he walk out from WWE. Punk has said many times he doesn’t take crap from anyone. I never understood why WWE didn’t let Punk be the next Stone Cold Steve Austin. I think it could had made them a lot of money if they had give Punk what he wanted, both sides would had won. I think AEW has the opportunity that WWE wasted with CM Punk in their side.
CM Punk doesn't want to deal with idiot children running AEW into the ground anymore. It's why Cody left and why half the WWE wrestlers who joined them last year are trying to leave as well.
If CM Punk joins WWE, AEW is officially dead.
They have Jericho and Mox who are huge draws as long as they stay AEW is ok.
Just like the guy on the show said they can turn this real life situation into a lot of money, he's using the Matt Hardy and edge situation but I would have used the Eddie Guerrero and Rey Mysterio situation or the Randy Orton and Rey Mysterio situation. Come on Tony Kohn you're smarter than that
I think that's just fine. Punk NOT being in AEW won't destroy the promotion. Disrespectful rants like that, burying the talent instead of trying to work it out backstage is what will destroy AEW. TK not stopping Punk while he was RIGHT NEXT TO HIM was favoritism to the highest degree.
Yep this isn't a good idea at all 😂
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This video is filled so much misinformation. The Elite went to Punk with AEW's head of legal to talk, Punk threw a punch, Ace bite Kenny for trying move Larry out of the way, then one them his Nick in the face with a chair. Nobody ear was bite, it was the arm. Also, he has been said by all the news sites that The Bucks/Kenny said shit them about Punk trying to get Cabana fired Get you facts straight before making a video
Some of the things you stated as facts were disproven weeks ago. The Bucks didn’t kick the door down and that was debunked by folks like Meltzer and Sean Ross Sapp. Reports are out there that the EVPs brought agents and head of legal in the room with them to talk. Then they got punched and Kenny bitten. All this after Punk buried the locker room.
The dirtsheets have also said the locker room has pretty much soured on Punk. Keeping one man and pissing odd the entire locker room might be a bad idea. In an ideal world they find a way to make money off all this. But you have to have people that will agree to do that.
The issue is the way Punk goes about dealing with things. If Punk went about things better he could end up on top more often instead of just burning bridges.
I 100% agree tho, it takes 2 to fight, so Punk shouldn't be the only one punished. And the no-compete is too fking petty.
Exactly. Punk just has shitty people skills, shitty communication skills, and even worse social skills. He's always so combative, anxious, irritable, and always bouncing back and forth between hyper aggression and passive aggression.
The favortism in AEW is insane
honestly AEW could make a really good heel vs heel feud with CM Punk vs the elite, alot of the best feuds in wrestling usually involve some backstage heat. Randy Savage vs Hulk Hogan in '89, Bret Hart Vs Shawn Michaels in '96-'97, Edge vs Matt Hardy in 05, Booker T vs Batista in 06, and many other feuds.
Well it'll be good if AEW solved the problem with Punk but looking at what it's happening rn it looks very difficult
I've noticed that the overwhelming majority of anti-Elite, pro-Punk fans in the comments have a very difficult time commenting without coming off very emotional, combative, hyper/passive aggressive, and very vindictive when talking about this situation. Especially when it comes to talking about Page, Omega, or the Bucks. They just seemingly get so mad and worked up so quickly that you can't expect a rational discussion with them. It's a very interesting observation I made. No wonder they gravitate towards Punk. They have the same shitty communication skills and shitty people skills as Punk. 🤔