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I'm from Brazil and I own a BYD King (Destroyer 05). I've always been an admirer of Chinese capabilities, even more so today, after all, they are thousands of years of culture... Long live China...
Even if European car companies successfully converted themselves into EV era, many jobs in Europe would be lost anyway as EV needs less complexity (parts). Let alone in the era of EV, Europe finds themselves less and less relevant as EV is not just about battery: it's also about software, sensor, lidar, autonomous capability, which is not Europe's strength.
I am currently in China exploring their growth. People in the West have not seen anything yet. The advancement of technology here in China is truly unbelievable. Every 3 months I am astounded at the pace of change. It's really back to the future here. Exciting times ahead here in China. For anyone who wants to be part of this major transformation needs to come here.
I am resident of Brazil and I own a BYD EV. You see them more and more on the streets. Also, Uber drivers are switching over, lowering their operating costs significantly. Aside from BYD, we also see many Haval (GWM) and Chery cars, both pure EVs and PHEVs. Tesla does not sell cars in Brazil.
😅Because Mr. Elon, in his undisguised ignorance, must imagine that we in Brazil are still a people of the forest... Here in my country we would say "you missed a great opportunity, "playboy""...@@MisterX69
We are mad on BYD and we demanded them to be investigated. We was happy with the new fab... But this is horrendous, they can't do practices they do elsewhere
this only partially true, the taxes did not exist before. It's a matter of the market itself which is very controlled... as he said, but I agree the taxes were increased and now BYD already started building their factories here
Hi Sam. Just a side info BYD recently made a strong entrance to Ethiopia via none other than TOYOTA’s sole authorized reseller there. Considering China’s close relationship with most countries in the continent, Africa will be a bloodbath for legacy automakers. Tesla is not even in the equation.
I'll think Tesla is okay with losing some African countries to competitors. How many cars are sold in Ethiopia each year? I imagine that a electric car would be a great option for many, now when the solar panels have dropped in price.
@ Tesla will lose most of Africa….forever. Ethiopia gets almost 100% of its electric power from renewable sources. Electricity tariffs are pretty cheap there. Up until now petrol and diesel powered autos were very expensive to own as all of the oil is imported. This shift to EVs will jump start the economy in a way unseen before.
@@mohammedomer3798 once china mass produces the thorium molten salt reactors..... african nations will jump to have those reactors in their countries then electricity will be more stable and cheaper...
@@HarrythehunAfrica and the Middle East only represent about 5% of global car sales, so yeah. Question is what will the growth be with a flood of sub $10k usd Chinese EV’s? Tesla is not competitive in probably 50% of car markets, and has to compete with cheap Chinese EV’s in 65% of the global market that isn’t North America and Europe. Tesla needs to get a sub $20k car on the market, or its future is bleak.
@@HarrythehunAfrica, SEA, and Latin America will drive 80% of the world's growth the next 20 years besides India and China. G7 is increasingly irrelevant
Hi Sam Evan, as a Brazilian the general mood about this growth of chinese cars is very optimistic. Since the Chinese Ev arrived many European and North american brands have decreased the profit margins Hopefully the byd plant will jncrease also sales of hybrids as well as EV even chepear. In fact the import fees for foreign cars is around 20-35%
Hope Brazil and China continues their strategic alliiance specially regarding economy. Brazil still has tendency to be sympathetic to western influences. The US and EU has not and will not develop Brazil. Brazil will benefit from Chinese investment in hydro, wind and solar, automotive industry and farming equipment which are far cheaper than western equivalent. This without worrying about political interference. Brazil should go for the jugular and insist on factories, jobs and knowledge transfers, not finish products. They can also ask for processing plants for their mineral exports rather than just ship ores to China for processing.
There are reports on Chinese social media of construction workers strike at the BYD Brazil site, NOT against the construction company nor BYD but against the Brazilian authorities. As it turns out, the construction workers was happy with the "slave-like" AIR-CONDITIONED sleeping quarters and they were trying to finish their job in record time so that they could go home to see their family which has been receiving part of the salary. It was speculated that this whole saga is due to the construction company refusal to "pay" relevant people AND refuses to replace the Chinese workers with locals that demand 3X pay and shorter working hours.
That sort of construction business and politicians deal (corruption & bribe) are a very common practice here in Brazil. Also massive constructions like metro would take years to be completed and its budget inflated. BTW I'm Brazilian.
I drove a Chinese SUV in Ecuador and was so impressed. I said, if they come to America, the factories should just shut their doors. It's over so what China is doing with electric cars. I can just imagine Thanks for your hard work
The Brazil 'slave story' was false. The workers concerned have denied the allegations. The construction workers have posted a video and written denying the allegations. The Brazilian state authorities and judges are notoriously corrupt. By the way no charges have been laid against the contractor by the Brazilian proseutors no doubt because the slavery charges are vehemently denied by the workers themselves.
BYD is flushed with cash and is not stupid to treat their employees like slaves.They know the bad publicity will come with that.What a dumb accusation!
You know that BYD is about to take over the market that Western and Japanese cars once monopolized, and you can taste the taste of jealousy and fear even from a long distance
I have an Haval GWM PHEV here in Brazil . Excellent car, I have to fuel my car every 2 months. I have solar panels so my cost per km is very low. If it had at least 300km electric range would be unbeatable.
As a brazilian, I saw the big brands closing factories year after year in Brazil. I hope the BYD factory will bring jobs. There should be a partnership between BYD and WEG, WEG is a pretty big and doing very well, I would say it is one of the only brazilian brands doing well.
The BYD factory will be closed before open due to "slavery" issue. I wonder why the Brazilian government care about the welfare of foreigner workers more than her own people.😅
@@freeskier64 I do not think so. Even if BYD is involved, it will blame the construction company that is "not affiliated with BYD". Some politicians will get brand new cars and all back to "normal" on the Republic of the Bananas
😂😂😂 It is a blessing in disguise that BYD and other Chinese cars are barred from selling cars in the USA because in the USA the number of lawsuits are really insane. In Brazil the country has rule of law while in the USA it's more like RULE OF LAWYERS.
The US government is shielding the US automakers from competition, making them uncompetitive in other countries. Yes, this is actually good for the Chinese EV makers at least for now.
As I mentioned before, the U.S. and friends see the U S. market as the only one that matters...as for China, they see the whole world as a potential market.😬
This is not true, have you compared to other developed countries? The main reason for EV is efficiency and also the fact you can charge them for "free" if you install PVs at your home, for example.
Nope. They were propesting on the media over a fake news spread, as theywere falselly accused of not abbiding to the law. Remember that Brazil has a still alive far right mafia who are making moves for their imperial masters
As an FYI, BYD'S best selling car here in Brazil is the Seagull, locally named as Dolphin Mini (god knows why), then they has both the Song Pro and Song Plus with very good numbers. They scared the "local" legacy automakers that they pushed our government to overtax the chinese cars (BYD brought like 100k cars before additiinal taxes kicked in), but since BYD should have their local factory ready to go by late Q2 or early Q3, this should help boosting their footing to aim for getting into the top 5 brands in sales within a couple of years (our top 5 todays consists of VW, Fiat, GM, Hyundai and Toyota), since wholesale is almost 50% of our numbers (rental car companies, taxis, companies and government working fleets) and they only sell om retail side today, pretty much.
Two things about Brazil: 1. Government has imposed big import tariffs. If not, BYD would sell much more. 2. We are a big country, there is almost no competition in plugin hybrids
The legacy car makers can protect their home markets to a certain extent but can’t protect the rest of the world. The writing is on the wall for Toyota, Stellantis, Nissan/Honda, and the German automakers. The future belongs to Tesla and the Chinese.
If BYD release the Seagull in RHD sales will take off in other countries. The Seagull went on sale in Brazil as the Dolphin Mini in February 2024 hench the huge sales numbers.
For comparesment: Brasil sales figures Byd sold 76.000 washing machines (with tumble dryer function) in 2024. VW sold 336.000 vehicles in Brasil in 2024.
the high cost in Brazil may be due to import taxes on new cars.. for electric cars its about 18- 20% now and is raising to 35% by July 2026 .. all of South America has very heavy importation taxes on cars.
Chinese car companies have the global south market (85% of worlds population) who can afford their $20-30k cars, not $50-60k When(not if) they get into US/Canada, it's just gravy on top of gravy.
The price of the byd dolphin is not exactly correct in the video. They selling the dolphin here for around 160.000, 00 reais, which is equivalent to 26,000 dollars, according to the current conversion of 6 reais to 1 dollar
Regardless their real life qualities, it is amazing a brand new car brand can draw so much interests. Normally you would have to wait 20-30 years to know whether a brand is reliable or not. EV really changed things.
You know what Brazil did to shutdown the factories is so counterproductive lol... now BYD doesnt need to manufacture all they need is just keep on delivering haha... like totally they are delivering and selling and no need for responsibility of investing manufacturing and just focus on maintenance and services.
Slave like conditions? From the pictures provided, it seems that those staff staying there are just messy and disorganised. You will find the same conditions in the rooms of many American teenagers.
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I think mostly are not EVs.. should check the data many of the sales are hybrid cars not sure about the % of each, also Tesla is not in Brazil so BYD is having a solo party!
The principle of the world is enthusiasts and providers, if the number of EVs increases then the number of charging station providers will also increase
I don’t understand how BYD could or should know about the living situation of the workers for a company that it hired. Are businesses expected to go to each of its contractors and suppliers and demand to be let in to the homes of their employees? This doesn’t make any sense.
@@4svideosforschool These affected workers are protesting why they are being termed as slaves. Brazilians don't realize many Chinese, like those who come from the subtropical southern part, do not sleep on mattresses. Too warm and humid. Sleeping on a bare wooden bed is a norm for them but a slave like condition for Brazilians. Like if you are in India forvtge first time and don't know much about their culture and you are shocked to see the workers eating with their hands without any cultery. You will think their employer behaves like a slave owner. Something like that.
@@4svideosforschool those workers came out and said it wasn’t slavery on a video Let’s be honest the Brazilian local government didn’t want Chinese workers doing the jobs of Brazilians longterm … but they were only there on contract to build the factory It was more of a we see you Chinese workers don’t have them working here longterm BYD 👇 BYD invests heavily in Brazil! New factory in Camaçari starts 2025 hiring 10 thousand people, marking the beginning of a new era for the national automotive industry Written by Valdemar Medeiros Published 04/01/2025 BYD announces massive hiring for 2025: 10 new vacancies promise to boost the automotive industry in Bahia and transform the sector in Brazil. Check out how to participate in the selection process! This year of 2025 promises to be a year of great expansion for the national automotive industry with the complete production of cars by BYD in its new factory in Camaçari, Bahia. Starting this month of January, the company will begin a selection process that promises to boost job creation in the region. In total, there will be 10 thousand vacancies at BYD for the Bahia unit. CPG
Sam Whilst the dolphin is so much more in Brazil than in China,do not forget it cost a few $000 to ship cars from China to Brazil. That said the market or RRP is not necessarily set low if you don't have to. Profit is important - particularly if as you have said in China BYD are selling at near cost to take market share. Businesses need to make a fair margin to maintain growth and continue to stay around. For me the EV is still far too expensive when compared to ICE. That difference in cost is still more than 5 years of fuel cost and some service cost. I also tend to buy a car and hold for at least 10 years and average around 20,000 kms per year. My current car is a 2012 diesel having dome 235,000 kms. I service it myself and typically get 9.8-10 km/L a tank of diesel 65 L at around $100 a fill ballpark. If an EV then say a 75kWh battery pack at say $0.90 / kW being $68 a charge using an external charger and maybe only 300 kms v's my 600 kms of range. So thake makes it more expensive than my diesel if I use fast charger networks. Maybe once solid state batteries and Sodium Ion batteries are used or other more energy dense batteries finally hit the production line then I will look at an EV but not for now. Charge from home using your solar I hear you say. I don't generate sufficient excess solar to charge a car from my home Solar system let alone fill a battery during 6 months of the year. Victoria - Mornington Peninsular region. my 9.4 kW system through an 8 kWh three phase inverter generated 12 mWs of Solar over the full 12 months in both 2023 and 2024 at my place. It is only in late spring summer (Late November - late Feb - just on 4 months) where I can generate in excess of my household use that would fill a 13 kWh battery (maybe a bit more on very sunny days). My best days in summer gave 60 kWh per day generation but having air con on meant less than 30 - 40 kWh excess. That still not enough to charge a car and my car is not at home during the day to charge it. So any charging from home would be late afternoon early evening at peak charge cost and only off peak small trickle after 10 pm. Grid charging at peak charge $0.42/kWh cost from home and $0.22 after 10:00 pm. Off peak charging cheapest would be $16.00 a fill of 75 kWh. or peak charge cost $32.00 for the same 75kWh. I tend to tow race car trailer long distances quite often and an EV won't cut it for my needs just now. I will wait to see how things improve. also the electric charge network in Victoria and regional Australia is far from great and so much more expensive. diesel is still far more readily available and if I was using super chargers for charging then cost of Electricity would be very expensive and as haigh at 60-70% of that of the Diesel for each long trip.
Same with South Africa, insane import taxes (tariffs) certain import cars can easily cost 30% - 100% (on some super cars) more than the country of export. F SA and the government.
Electric vehicles are so much less expensive to own and operate that anyone with a limited budget is going to gravitate towards cheap electrical cars very aggressively.
I really believe the "West" will have to recapture Brazil, like they did with Argentina, the only way to "compete". Just to have an idea, the price of the EV cars are still expensive... but not to the Brazilian standards, if BYD can reduce their price by 20-30% they can simply dominate all the market in a matter of few years. The chepeast car here is 75k BRL, and the cheapest EV is 99k. A good car for middle-class income is around 110-120k, combustion only. dolphin is still expensive at 150k, but they also sell the mini dolphin (Seagull in China) for 115k. So as I said , if they can reduce this to below 100k is still expensive but compare to current competion it will simply destory the market considering the efficiency and costs here. We also have a potential to grow more PV which makes the cost of ownership (charging) even more affordable.
BYD push for "lowest cost possible" is not healthy strategy. it may yeild short term growth explosion, but it weaken it supply chain and contractors with inferior ones.
You can rest assured that BYD will never build a factory in Canada. If one day the United States liberalizes its policies to allow Chinese automakers to build factories in the United States, BYD may go to the United States to build factories. I'm not going to Canada
Great, because the car manufacturers that already sold cars here, such as Volkswagen, Fiat, among others, sell everything they are not capable of selling in Europe or other countries, and they charge a lot, a lot, and they deliver real dumps. The Chinese at least invest here in Brazil and bring quality cars. My next car will probably be a Chinese one.
Meanwhile Americans are driving 10-20 year old cars, because they can't afford new ones or just don't want to pay $80k for a truck that is worth 40k. That also hit the used car sales market, like those 5-10 year old cars are overpriced, due to high demand. I commute 60 miles a day on a busy highway for many years now in the NY City suburbs and I see more and more broken down vehicles on the side of the road than ever before. I assume people cannot afford new cars and trying to use cars that are 20+ years old or were only affordable because they got mechanical problems.
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I'm from Brazil and I own a BYD King (Destroyer 05). I've always been an admirer of Chinese capabilities, even more so today, after all, they are thousands of years of culture... Long live China...
they are more and more in UK too, solid cars!
Do a vlog....love to see it ..
Even if European car companies successfully converted themselves into EV era, many jobs in Europe would be lost anyway as EV needs less complexity (parts). Let alone in the era of EV, Europe finds themselves less and less relevant as EV is not just about battery: it's also about software, sensor, lidar, autonomous capability, which is not Europe's strength.
I miss Ayrton Senna 😢
I am currently in China exploring their growth. People in the West have not seen anything yet. The advancement of technology here in China is truly unbelievable. Every 3 months I am astounded at the pace of change. It's really back to the future here. Exciting times ahead here in China. For anyone who wants to be part of this major transformation needs to come here.
All that innovation and college graduates cant find jobs🤧
And government barely pays the employees😬😬😬
@@snow-uq4gx Don't worry. They have enought engineers to fuel innovation.
@@snow-uq4gx Hmm. Now you seem to ramble.
@bmthai3718 🤣🤣🤣 well a Chinese student rambled to me a whole 2 hours to the airport. If u only heard the truth out of his mouth 😶🌫️😶🌫️
I am resident of Brazil and I own a BYD EV. You see them more and more on the streets. Also, Uber drivers are switching over, lowering their operating costs significantly. Aside from BYD, we also see many Haval (GWM) and Chery cars, both pure EVs and PHEVs. Tesla does not sell cars in Brazil.
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How come tesla don't sell in Brazil?
😅Because Mr. Elon, in his undisguised ignorance, must imagine that we in Brazil are still a people of the forest... Here in my country we would say "you missed a great opportunity, "playboy""...@@MisterX69
How’s the aircon. Is it very cold on a hot day. Does it stop when not moving
Mainly the Atto3 has this problem I’ve heard
Because it's a poor country@@MisterX69
I have two BYD EVs in Brazil. Their cars are better than traditional automakers.
What do the average Brazilians think of the "forced labor" claim at the Brazil BYD factory that's currently being built?
@@fdjw88 If they are not "forced labour" then they could make even better cars.
@@satriojumeneng7055😂😂😂😂
@@fdjw88 I am fine with forced robot labors =D
We are mad on BYD and we demanded them to be investigated.
We was happy with the new fab... But this is horrendous, they can't do practices they do elsewhere
It is pricey because of eye-watering tariffs and taxes, Sean. Still, I do own a BYD and I love it.
Who is Sean? If you are referring to the Viking, his name is Sam.
this only partially true, the taxes did not exist before. It's a matter of the market itself which is very controlled... as he said, but I agree the taxes were increased and now BYD already started building their factories here
Hi Sam. Just a side info BYD recently made a strong entrance to Ethiopia via none other than TOYOTA’s sole authorized reseller there. Considering China’s close relationship with most countries in the continent, Africa will be a bloodbath for legacy automakers. Tesla is not even in the equation.
I'll think Tesla is okay with losing some African countries to competitors. How many cars are sold in Ethiopia each year? I imagine that a electric car would be a great option for many, now when the solar panels have dropped in price.
@ Tesla will lose most of Africa….forever.
Ethiopia gets almost 100% of its electric power from renewable sources. Electricity tariffs are pretty cheap there. Up until now petrol and diesel powered autos were very expensive to own as all of the oil is imported. This shift to EVs will jump start the economy in a way unseen before.
@@mohammedomer3798 once china mass produces the thorium molten salt reactors..... african nations will jump to have those reactors in their countries then electricity will be more stable and cheaper...
@@HarrythehunAfrica and the Middle East only represent about 5% of global car sales, so yeah. Question is what will the growth be with a flood of sub $10k usd Chinese EV’s? Tesla is not competitive in probably 50% of car markets, and has to compete with cheap Chinese EV’s in 65% of the global market that isn’t North America and Europe. Tesla needs to get a sub $20k car on the market, or its future is bleak.
@@HarrythehunAfrica, SEA, and Latin America will drive 80% of the world's growth the next 20 years besides India and China.
G7 is increasingly irrelevant
Hi Sam Evan, as a Brazilian the general mood about this growth of chinese cars is very optimistic. Since the Chinese Ev arrived many European and North american brands have decreased the profit margins
Hopefully the byd plant will jncrease also sales of hybrids as well as EV even chepear. In fact the import fees for foreign cars is around 20-35%
Hope Brazil and China continues their strategic alliiance specially regarding economy. Brazil still has tendency to be sympathetic to western influences. The US and EU has not and will not develop Brazil. Brazil will benefit from Chinese investment in hydro, wind and solar, automotive industry and farming equipment which are far cheaper than western equivalent. This without worrying about political interference. Brazil should go for the jugular and insist on factories, jobs and knowledge transfers, not finish products. They can also ask for processing plants for their mineral exports rather than just ship ores to China for processing.
There are reports on Chinese social media of construction workers strike at the BYD Brazil site, NOT against the construction company nor BYD but against the Brazilian authorities. As it turns out, the construction workers was happy with the "slave-like" AIR-CONDITIONED sleeping quarters and they were trying to finish their job in record time so that they could go home to see their family which has been receiving part of the salary.
It was speculated that this whole saga is due to the construction company refusal to "pay" relevant people AND refuses to replace the Chinese workers with locals that demand 3X pay and shorter working hours.
The funny thing is, these so-called "slaves" actually earn much more than the average salary in Brazil.😆
That sort of construction business and politicians deal (corruption & bribe) are a very common practice here in Brazil. Also massive constructions like metro would take years to be completed and its budget inflated. BTW I'm Brazilian.
I drove a Chinese SUV in Ecuador and was so impressed. I said, if they come to America, the factories should just shut their doors. It's over so what China is doing with electric cars. I can just imagine Thanks for your hard work
Which one?
The Brazil 'slave story' was false. The workers concerned have denied the allegations. The construction workers have posted a video and written denying the allegations. The Brazilian state authorities and judges are notoriously corrupt. By the way no charges have been laid against the contractor by the Brazilian proseutors no doubt because the slavery charges are vehemently denied by the workers themselves.
Sam's source was probably 'China observer' ...again
BYD is flushed with cash and is not stupid to treat their employees like slaves.They know the bad publicity will come with that.What a dumb accusation!
No surprises that the western MSM will make hay out of this allegations.
You know that BYD is about to take over the market that Western and Japanese cars once monopolized, and you can taste the taste of jealousy and fear even from a long distance
Whoever wins the case, BYD loses because many people already believed that news that says BYD using slaves.
I have an Haval GWM PHEV here in Brazil . Excellent car, I have to fuel my car every 2 months. I have solar panels so my cost per km is very low. If it had at least 300km electric range would be unbeatable.
As a brazilian, I saw the big brands closing factories year after year in Brazil. I hope the BYD factory will bring jobs. There should be a partnership between BYD and WEG, WEG is a pretty big and doing very well, I would say it is one of the only brazilian brands doing well.
After being sold second rate vehicles by legacy auto,getting cutting edge Chinese cars… vamos!
The BYD factory will be closed before open due to "slavery" issue. I wonder why the Brazilian government care about the welfare of foreigner workers more than her own people.😅
@@freeskier64 I do not think so. Even if BYD is involved, it will blame the construction company that is "not affiliated with BYD". Some politicians will get brand new cars and all back to "normal" on the Republic of the Bananas
So you will be working for China. lol
@@freeskier64 more like another u.s instigated incident.... making things look worse than it is in reality
Brazil has an abundance of solar energy, making EVs the obvious choice.
I ❤byd cars, very beautiful and pretty good with a good price for the low income family
😂😂😂 It is a blessing in disguise that BYD and other Chinese cars are barred from selling cars in the USA because in the USA the number of lawsuits are really insane. In Brazil the country has rule of law while in the USA it's more like RULE OF LAWYERS.
Well said
Also there quality is not there yet. My atto 3 rusted in 18 months. Poor paint and steel
The US government is shielding the US automakers from competition, making them uncompetitive in other countries. Yes, this is actually good for the Chinese EV makers at least for now.
True, we don't even charge bail the last 4 years.
@cfwin1776 China is an enemy of America, fyi.
With such affordable price, no need to Build Your Dream. You can now just go to Buy Your Dream.
It is time to BYD👍👍👍
BYD Dolphin in Australia is A$36151 driveway (US $22470)
As I mentioned before, the U.S. and friends see the U S. market as the only one that matters...as for China, they see the whole world as a potential market.😬
hope the factory plans will be back to normal...that factory will be the most advanced in Brazil
Petrol is expensive in Brazil that’s why EV’s are popular
This is not true, have you compared to other developed countries? The main reason for EV is efficiency and also the fact you can charge them for "free" if you install PVs at your home, for example.
Brazil has lots of taxes, imported cars doubling their original price is the norm here unfortunately
Thank you Viking for the positivity you bring every day in an otherwise negative world!
Air quality in most Brazilian cities are good. In fact, only São Paulo has a real air quality problem.
brazilian and a seal owner here
The Chinese media shows the construction workers issued a joint protest against the Brazilian local govt.
Nope. They were propesting on the media over a fake news spread, as theywere falselly accused of not abbiding to the law. Remember that Brazil has a still alive far right mafia who are making moves for their imperial masters
i think that's a u.s covert op to smear BYD and china
I have seen BYD cars in every city I visited last year.
Happy new year
Excellent form China 👍👍👍
Brazil: state and federal taxes is at around 30% of the sale price. On top of that, there’s a 10% tariff for EVs to be raised to 35% on 2026.
As an FYI, BYD'S best selling car here in Brazil is the Seagull, locally named as Dolphin Mini (god knows why), then they has both the Song Pro and Song Plus with very good numbers. They scared the "local" legacy automakers that they pushed our government to overtax the chinese cars (BYD brought like 100k cars before additiinal taxes kicked in), but since BYD should have their local factory ready to go by late Q2 or early Q3, this should help boosting their footing to aim for getting into the top 5 brands in sales within a couple of years (our top 5 todays consists of VW, Fiat, GM, Hyundai and Toyota), since wholesale is almost 50% of our numbers (rental car companies, taxis, companies and government working fleets) and they only sell om retail side today, pretty much.
I am living in Rio, plenty of BYD cars , alot of them being used as Uber
Two things about Brazil:
1. Government has imposed big import tariffs. If not, BYD would sell much more.
2. We are a big country, there is almost no competition in plugin hybrids
The legacy car makers can protect their home markets to a certain extent but can’t protect the rest of the world. The writing is on the wall for Toyota, Stellantis, Nissan/Honda, and the German automakers. The future belongs to Tesla and the Chinese.
i hope byd will release their dmi 5 sedans in australia, enough will the suv boom
A ship arrived.
I wonder how many batteries in China they're going to sell to the competitors. Yes, they're going to make a lot of money on that That's a fact
Cars in Brasil and many Latin América countries are expensive because of taxes
If BYD release the Seagull in RHD sales will take off in other countries. The Seagull went on sale in Brazil as the Dolphin Mini in February 2024 hench the huge sales numbers.
In Europe they struggle because they are overpriced.
Hopefully a SHARK full ev and terron 9 will be available soon in the market
For comparesment:
Brasil sales figures
Byd sold 76.000 washing machines (with tumble dryer function) in 2024.
VW sold 336.000 vehicles in Brasil in 2024.
I have BYD model Seal, satisfaction.
The most sold byd car in Brazil was the dolphin mini, nor the dolphin.
the high cost in Brazil may be due to import taxes on new cars.. for electric cars its about 18- 20% now and is raising to 35% by July 2026 .. all of South America has very heavy importation taxes on cars.
Chinese car companies have the global south market (85% of worlds population) who can afford their $20-30k cars, not $50-60k
When(not if) they get into US/Canada, it's just gravy on top of gravy.
If they come to us canada, our factories suggest shutter its doors, it's over
@@zap5936those Legacy autos had a chance to give us affordable options
The "mini dolphin" are actualy a seagull
Good news for 2025!
The price of the byd dolphin is not exactly correct in the video. They selling the dolphin here for around 160.000, 00 reais, which is equivalent to 26,000 dollars, according to the current conversion of 6 reais to 1 dollar
Regardless their real life qualities, it is amazing a brand new car brand can draw so much interests. Normally you would have to wait 20-30 years to know whether a brand is reliable or not. EV really changed things.
My seal is a good car but in Brazil I need 500 km range at least.
Pois é, they are everywhere.
Most countries do not want oil or gas. If you don’t have that why give all your wealth to Canada, USA, Russia etc.
石油和天然气仅仅作为燃料烧掉就太浪费了，本应该作为化工原料的
Brazil has load of sun plus solar = free travel...in your own EV...
? BRICS ? NO TARIFFS ? Whats the recharching network capacity in BRAZIL ?
Cars in Brazil are very expensive
Brasil tem tudo pra eletrificar
This story about slavery is lawfare against byd. Salutations from Brazil!
It male sense for Brazil to electrified their transportation. The country produces a lot of hydroelectricity with the Itaipu Dam.
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You know what Brazil did to shutdown the factories is so counterproductive lol... now BYD doesnt need to manufacture all they need is just keep on delivering haha... like totally they are delivering and selling and no need for responsibility of investing manufacturing and just focus on maintenance and services.
Slave like conditions? From the pictures provided, it seems that those staff staying there are just messy and disorganised. You will find the same conditions in the rooms of many American teenagers.
lol... American teenagers. Haha, touche. :)
What is the volume of car buyers in US & Europe which imposes chinese tariffs versus those that doesn't?
I'm surprised the Brazilian can afford BYD EV😮
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I think mostly are not EVs.. should check the data many of the sales are hybrid cars not sure about the % of each, also Tesla is not in Brazil so BYD is having a solo party!
This rate of growth is unsustainable. You have no idea how bad the charging infrastructure is here in Brazil.
The principle of the world is enthusiasts and providers, if the number of EVs increases then the number of charging station providers will also increase
Can I order a byd from Brazil?
I don’t understand how BYD could or should know about the living situation of the workers for a company that it hired. Are businesses expected to go to each of its contractors and suppliers and demand to be let in to the homes of their employees? This doesn’t make any sense.
Any brand should know what its partners are up to. Brand damage is a real problem and companies should care about this.
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These affected workers are protesting why they are being termed as slaves. Brazilians don't realize many Chinese, like those who come from the subtropical southern part, do not sleep on mattresses. Too warm and humid. Sleeping on a bare wooden bed is a norm for them but a slave like condition for Brazilians. Like if you are in India forvtge first time and don't know much about their culture and you are shocked to see the workers eating with their hands without any cultery. You will think their employer behaves like a slave owner. Something like that.
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those workers came out and said it wasn’t slavery on a video
Let’s be honest the Brazilian local government didn’t want Chinese workers doing the jobs of Brazilians longterm … but they were only there on contract to build the factory
It was more of a we see you Chinese workers don’t have them working here longterm BYD
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BYD invests heavily in Brazil! New factory in Camaçari starts 2025 hiring 10 thousand people, marking the beginning of a new era for the national automotive industry
Written by
Valdemar Medeiros
Published 04/01/2025
BYD announces massive hiring for 2025: 10 new vacancies promise to boost the automotive industry in Bahia and transform the sector in Brazil. Check out how to participate in the selection process!
This year of 2025 promises to be a year of great expansion for the national automotive industry with the complete production of cars by BYD in its new factory in Camaçari, Bahia. Starting this month of January, the company will begin a selection process that promises to boost job creation in the region. In total, there will be 10 thousand vacancies at BYD for the Bahia unit.
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Whilst the dolphin is so much more in Brazil than in China,do not forget it cost a few $000 to ship cars from China to Brazil.
That said the market or RRP is not necessarily set low if you don't have to.
Profit is important - particularly if as you have said in China BYD are selling at near cost to take market share.
Businesses need to make a fair margin to maintain growth and continue to stay around.
For me the EV is still far too expensive when compared to ICE. That difference in cost is still more than 5 years of fuel cost and some service cost.
I also tend to buy a car and hold for at least 10 years and average around 20,000 kms per year.
My current car is a 2012 diesel having dome 235,000 kms. I service it myself and typically get 9.8-10 km/L a tank of diesel 65 L at around $100 a fill ballpark. If an EV then say a 75kWh battery pack at say $0.90 / kW being $68 a charge using an external charger and maybe only 300 kms v's my 600 kms of range. So thake makes it more expensive than my diesel if I use fast charger networks.
Maybe once solid state batteries and Sodium Ion batteries are used or other more energy dense batteries finally hit the production line then I will look at an EV but not for now.
Charge from home using your solar I hear you say.
I don't generate sufficient excess solar to charge a car from my home Solar system let alone fill a battery during 6 months of the year.
Victoria - Mornington Peninsular region. my 9.4 kW system through an 8 kWh three phase inverter generated 12 mWs of Solar over the full 12 months in both 2023 and 2024 at my place.
It is only in late spring summer (Late November - late Feb - just on 4 months) where I can generate in excess of my household use that would fill a 13 kWh battery (maybe a bit more on very sunny days).
My best days in summer gave 60 kWh per day generation but having air con on meant less than 30 - 40 kWh excess.
That still not enough to charge a car and my car is not at home during the day to charge it.
So any charging from home would be late afternoon early evening at peak charge cost and only off peak small trickle after 10 pm.
Grid charging at peak charge $0.42/kWh cost from home and $0.22 after 10:00 pm.
Off peak charging cheapest would be $16.00 a fill of 75 kWh. or peak charge cost $32.00 for the same 75kWh.
I tend to tow race car trailer long distances quite often and an EV won't cut it for my needs just now.
I will wait to see how things improve. also the electric charge network in Victoria and regional Australia is far from great and so much more expensive. diesel is still far more readily available and if I was using super chargers for charging then cost of Electricity would be very expensive and as haigh at 60-70% of that of the Diesel for each long trip.
WTF,中国晚上10点以后的电价0.38人民币，你那0.22美元
Here in my country, price of electricity is $0.1 for home charging, and $0.15 for fast charging
And EV has discount of tax around $500 a year
I think the recently very bad news of BYD in Brazil will make the sale numbers drastically drop.
Why don't you also say what are the import costs in Brazil before you comment on their prices. FYI, they are 80%.
What is Brazil doing for extra electricity production and infrastructure to handle so many electric cars?
Really? Didn't realize Brazil have infrastructure to support EVs. I thought the recent BYD controversy would have damaged BYD's image.
Bring these EV's into the African market, what is the auto maker waiting for?
You have to prepare the charging infrastructure first 😂
Same with South Africa, insane import taxes (tariffs) certain import cars can easily cost 30% - 100% (on some super cars) more than the country of export. F SA and the government.
Govt is protecting VW, Toyota, Ford, BMW and Mercedes with high import taxes.
When arrive To Argentina?
When does it arrive in Argentina. De nada.
@@Bobsyourunclereallywhen you get rid of your loser president.
Wait, wheres the part where you trash Nio, did you forget?
Electric vehicles are so much less expensive to own and operate that anyone with a limited budget is going to gravitate towards cheap electrical cars very aggressively.
Must be mistaken Seal price for dolphin price.
Make a Video about BYD in Latin america
Sad the US have suppressed so much real news from its citizens, it’s like a “frog living in a well” 😢
is 8 minute video minimum is still required for YT ads? Very annoying padding =(
It's your own folly not to use app to block ads. I never watch any silly ads
@@revrickbibletalks5546 dude, skipping even sponsor segments baked into videos. way ahead of you ;)
Lower in Australia than MG😂
Don't forget about Africa.
I really believe the "West" will have to recapture Brazil, like they did with Argentina, the only way to "compete". Just to have an idea, the price of the EV cars are still expensive... but not to the Brazilian standards, if BYD can reduce their price by 20-30% they can simply dominate all the market in a matter of few years. The chepeast car here is 75k BRL, and the cheapest EV is 99k. A good car for middle-class income is around 110-120k, combustion only. dolphin is still expensive at 150k, but they also sell the mini dolphin (Seagull in China) for 115k. So as I said , if they can reduce this to below 100k is still expensive but compare to current competion it will simply destory the market considering the efficiency and costs here. We also have a potential to grow more PV which makes the cost of ownership (charging) even more affordable.
Smart people buy cheap but good quality cars. Only fools reject them.
Airbags only became mandatory in Brazil in 2012, largely due to Fiat Uno not supporting it. Thanks legacy auto…get lost!
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How can western and Japanese car manufacturers beat Chinese cars on price and performance?
It's as pointless as EV in Australia. Fix you energy systems first. Then go to the dot above the I.
BYD push for "lowest cost possible" is not healthy strategy. it may yeild short term growth explosion, but it weaken it supply chain and contractors with inferior ones.
Here's the game plan do it all and quickly Plus what you build will be on the road and there we have it. You can't buy that
BYD should build a plant in Canada
No. no jobs for unfriendly country
You can rest assured that BYD will never build a factory in Canada. If one day the United States liberalizes its policies to allow Chinese automakers to build factories in the United States, BYD may go to the United States to build factories. I'm not going to Canada
Cuba is hurting for EV and mfg
If they sell 1 car in 2023 and then 326 in 2024, I’m not impressed
Great, because the car manufacturers that already sold cars here, such as Volkswagen, Fiat, among others, sell everything they are not capable of selling in Europe or other countries, and they charge a lot, a lot, and they deliver real dumps.
The Chinese at least invest here in Brazil and bring quality cars. My next car will probably be a Chinese one.
Didnt they just shut down a byd factory in brazil and rescue 160 slave workers
Meanwhile Americans are driving 10-20 year old cars, because they can't afford new ones or just don't want to pay $80k for a truck that is worth 40k. That also hit the used car sales market, like those 5-10 year old cars are overpriced, due to high demand.
I commute 60 miles a day on a busy highway for many years now in the NY City suburbs and I see more and more broken down vehicles on the side of the road than ever before. I assume people cannot afford new cars and trying to use cars that are 20+ years old or were only affordable because they got mechanical problems.
Could you please talk more about BYD's EV technology compared to other EV makers?
In China's car battery technology is the best two, one is the Ningde era one is BYD's own blade battery.