I always had this tought that Kirumi could have easily won the trial if she chose to kill Shuichi instead of Ryoma, literally NO ONE in drv3 would have guessed that the piece of fabric in the pool was from her gloves, actually they wouldn't have known she transportated the body in a ropeway, not even Kokichi.
Props to Kirumi for being the only character that actually did an almost, even perfect murder 😔 (I mean, Nagito too but doesn’t count, it’s luck based)
@@jokarsen3858 belive that if Kirumi had just left Ryoma's body at the Room or even just throw it on the pool, they would never be able to discover who killed him Also Angie's murder was likely impossible to solve if Kiyo hadn't confessed killing Tenko, cuz the only thing linking him to the crime was the Katana, which he stated that he didn't care about
@@molequesgames784 for real! But I think putting ryoma in the pool would be a bad idea cause the pool wasn’t full during nighttime and next morning, nobody could have drowned here, even Ryoma since the pool wasn’t deep at all. Kirumi and Kiyo honestly were just being extra for no reason, like leaving the body where they found/not proceeding with another plan with multiple evidences leading to their demise was a better option but oh well 💀
@@BLazeWigglytuff i mean, technically yes cause well, that’s his talent. A plan like that wouldn’t really work for a normal student, what are the odds ? Still, I’m not denying that Nagito’s plan is perfect, it’s just…Nagito 😭
4:49 No matter how much I look at it, I still can't get over about Hajime's pose here, I swear man's poses was just so extra in every "you're the culprit" scene😭
The other key to Mondo's defeat was his handbook. While he was on a sauna match with Taka, he was fully clothed, he accidentally brought his handbook with him, which broke due to the intense heat. Mondo replaced his handbook with either Leon's or Maizono's after discovering this. He also destroyed Chihiro's notebook the same way, as to conceal his friend's identity - making amends with the person he killed as a promise between men.
I think ppl get V3-5 wrong. There was no concrete proof of who is the killer, aside one os the suspects testimony, and Monokuma has the final saying on the matter, so his word would be final. Kokichi knew this, which is why he had Kaito kill him, because if everyone believed Kaito was dead, it wouldn't matter who Monokuma claimed to be the killer, he would be wrong regardless because he claimed that Kaito was dead. The moment Shuichi found out that Kokichi was dead, it was over, Kaito come out of the exisal, claiming to be the culprit so the others would live. He could have said "Maki is the killer", but Monokuma would have just said "No, you" and that was it.
Actually, thanks to Maki, Monokuma wouldn't be able to fairly judge this case. No matter who died, there were always two valid options for the blackened: - Kaito died: Kokichi could be the culprit by using the press or Maki ciuld be the one by using the poison arrow. - Kokichi died: Kaito could be the culprit by using the press or Maki ciuld be the one by using the poison arrow. Because Monokuma cannot analyze the body, he cannot know what ended up killing the victim.
@@toumabyakuya It doesn't matter because we know what would happen. Tsumugi would do exactly what she did in the 6th trial when Shuichi revealed she was the true killer. She exclaims: "So" She doesn't care that the killing game was unfair and neither does anyone watching which is what Kokichi's gambled on. His plan would have succeeded but without the result he wanted
@@LMAO-hk1zz Thing is that neither Kokichi nor Kaito have any way to know this. They cannot predict the future, so they wouldn't know this is how Monokuma would act. Was it a gamble? Yes, a big one at that, but Kokichi did though that he knew how Monokuma operated fully.
@@LMAO-hk1zz This, Kokichi wasn't aware that the killing game was bogus from the start. Tsumugi broke the game from the first trial and the game resumed as planned from there. Kokichi assumed the mastermind cared about the 'sanctity' of the killing game's rules and devised a plan to break the game, not knowing Tsumugi didn't care about the rules and was only trying to make the game an entertaining spectacle. Which he created.
6:57 Well, as Korekiyo himself said, that was meaningless in the class trial. Well...If there was another blackened, because the new rule stated that if there were 2 killings, they should try to figure out who was the first murderer .
I think it’s because that confession already made people suspect him further. He’s already killed once, who’s to say he didn’t kill twice? He was untrustworthy from that point forward.
@@MotorcycleCheetah yeah but im kinda curious if it was not Korekiyo who killed Angie? like if he survives and then what would be his interaction with the other people because they know he was a killer? im curious to see that lol
Kokichi would have died in vain anyway, because it turned out the people behind the killing game ultimately didn't actually care about the integrity of its rules
No it was to late by that point. Monokuma already knew Kaito was alive thanks to shuichi shuichi’s totally obvious “actually it’s not Kaito nobody vote for Kaito I’m an idiot” excuse was never gonna fool monokuma. Kokichi’s plan was already ruined by that point the only choice left was everyone but Kaito dies or Kaito dies and Kaito was already dying anyway.
kirumi could have totally won if she just left ryoma in his ultimate lab. that way everyone was completely a suspect almost. she made it way too complicated and left behind obvious evidence because of it. the only way they could have won is by determining everyone’s alibi’s
@@Avocadontthat’s not necessarily true, they would have been allowed to investigate his room before the trial meaning they could have still figured out it was her if enough evidence was there or not. It’s only shut for good once the trial has ended
@@Avocadont you do know the other classmates will grow suspicious if they don't see Ryoma right? For sure they try to search him all around the school, since he can't even leave it. So his body won't be gone forever lol. The only pro this can give is they won't know the exact day/time that Ryoma was killed. However, perhaps any culprit would like that the victim's body be found, especially Kirumi. She killed Ryoma because she wants to get out to save her nation. You think she would just stay quiet so that no one would find the body? How else can she get out if there is no class trial? Lol
Why Celestial lost her trial: she did nothing right. And yea Gundham could've pinned the crime on Nagito. Just say nagito could've lied about not hearing the alarm, blatantly lied about the prize he received and he confessed to have completed the Final Death Room. Even the killing itself could've been done without the hamsters, just say he returned the tools that immobilized nekomaru in the FDR.
I think what sealed her fate was that half-hearted scream she did during the investigation. Even Byakuga found that suspicious saying to her that was quite the scream for someone like her. Hell, Celeste was pretty much taking the full helms of the investigation where in the previous two, she was just standing to the side most of the time.
But also, Gundham admitted that he didn't use Hamsters to neutralize Nekomaru. Throughout the trial, he's giving hints to why he's the killer, but when Nagito insinuates that Gundham took an easy way out of killing someone, Gundham claimed "Nekomaru's goodnight button is on the back of his neck. To press it, I'd have to get behind him." He wasn't proving that he couldn't kill Nekomaru, he was proving that he couldn't push the button without fighting him. Meaning he was really defending his pride more than himself. But then Hajime gets clever and says "Your hamsters could do it, I'm sure." And Gundham is just so impressed that he accepts that even if that's not how it happened, it's still DEFINITELY possible, and nonetheless proves he's the killer. After the trial, he says "I DID fight Nekomaru." Implying that using his hamsters to put Nekomaru to sleep ISN'T what he did.
Gundham couldnt have pinned the crime on nagito becaused it was made clear that all the deluxe rooms are soundproof even Sonia didnt hear anything so if he was in his room he definitely wasnt supposed to hear anything so it was weird how he heard the ringing also celestia lost bc of her and hifumi, who was proven guilty for taka's murder before her , being the only people who were constantly interacting with the suspect and she also said "those guys died" before she was informed about taka' death implying she knew all along and she was in on it which lead to everyone questioning her real name to match with hifumi's final words
@@viviennemorgan7217 I mean... someone needs to be falsely accused in order for culprit to win a trial and it doesn't matter who, since everyone except culprut would die.
@@viviennemorgan7217 if that's the case, then Kaito's reason shouldn't be that he let himself be caught. Once class trial started, he intended to get executed too. I just want a bit of consistency.
If they wanted to continue the trial in V3 Chapter 5, Shuichi could've mentioned the possibility of Kokichi succumbing to the poison before being crushed.
It's kinda impressive that Gundam, the guy that wanted to be found out, had a really really well thought out plan that made it hard for him to be found out
I think the culprit should target the smartest persons in the group in order to avoid getting caught like Kyoko or Shuichi, but then given how smart they are, it is also possible that they could dodge the attacks or guard themselves.
Yeah I wonder why, nobody ever thought of targeting the main character . while they are basically the only one who always finds the culprit. Or maybe it's because they're friends with most of the characters...?
@@LMAO-hk1zzEven if people could figure out the time frame, what's next? Everyone was scattered at the time because of Kokichi's antics. Very few people had alibis, creating a scenario where too many people could be the culprit and there is no way to decide who aside from guessing.
@@luluzin5022 Exactly that was her plan. Theirs no "Lucky Student" you'd have to randomly guess between the plethora of suspects and due to Kirumis attitude towards her group and alibi with Kokichi almost no one would suspect her. This can easily be seen in the first half of the trial. They all boiled it down to Kaito and Maki and didn't even know about Kirumis ropeway trick until Maki's testimony saying that the crime happened after night. Monosukes slip up also reinforced the fact the crime happened at night and in the fashion it did. Those are the 2 main key details that negatively effected her plan and they were both things outside of Kirumi's control.
@@LMAO-hk1zz The plan you described does not necessitate the ropeway trick on the first place. Everything the ropeway did was try to frame Himiko for the murder, but proving that it was not her was so easy, it took 20% of the trial's runtime. And even if people didn't suspect Kirumi's trick at first, there were too many evidences left behind. The glass panel on the piranhas' tank, the tube on the pool, the blood markings on the ceiling, and of course, the black fabric that caused her downfall. But even if her glove hadn't fallen on the pool, Kirumi was the only one left alone in the gym right before closing time, which means she was the only one who could've prepared the trick anyway. Those evidences might seem difficult to figure out, but they have an Ultimate Detective on the team. Kirumi would have been better off not creating unnecessary evidence in the first place. Just leaving Ryoma's body on his lab already accomplishes everything you mentioned.
Youre wrong about Teruteru if he hadnt shouted he would have been in even MORE trouble , because the moment the group finds out about the trap door leading to under the dining room they would have instantly found out it was Teruteru as he was the only one not present in tye dining room when the killer would have went in to kill byakuya
I was kinda hoping that she'd take the perk and try to get help from the outside and we could get duo protagonists. I think having kaede explore a fake set of a city would have added the entertainment value tsumugi was looking for without anyone escaping.
Kiyo also had the perfect murder with Angie since there was nothing to tie him into her death (since Angie only let the student council members into her lab and only those related to it and Kokichi with his lockpicking skills could've gotten in). Kiyo would've won had he not gone through with the fucking seesaw trick that eventually lead to Angie's murder being solved (since the scythe used to kill Tenko ended up near the exact spot as Angie's blood that dried up from earlier).
Always wondered why culprits just don't hide evidence like weapons or bloody clothes in their room Other don't have access to it because you can just lock it, so it would be smartest thing to do
You cant hode anything monokuma has cameras everywhere and allows them all to do a through and through search of each room so they’re prepared for a proper class trial
@@vincentlucario5450 if the victim isn't in your room then there is no reason for anyone to go check yours they don't have the kind of time to check every room
@@Astriyumi if you’re suspicious, leave evidence, etc they would suspect you and check your room. Also it depends on how long they actually get since the time limit changes. Other people would probably split up as well to cover more ground.
Do yall think Peko could have won her trial if she: Went to the beach house clothed, killed Mahiru and just hid her clothes somewhere so she arrived at the diner with her bikini on but not wet Edit: She could stash the clothes in her bamboo sword bag so it can't be seen by others while she drops it off at her cottage
I don't think so bc if she didn't hide her clothes carefully it would be discovered by someone and she couldn't throw them outside the beach house bc littering is not allowed and if she tried to go to her cottage to put them she had high chances of getting caught but the main reason she couldn't do that is bc it's against the rules to change in the beach house
There was also another part that would have helped her in the trial, though idk if it would have won her the trial. If she would have placed the right type of gummy, she would have had an easier time framing Hiyoko since almost everyone believed it was her. Besides the direct murder part of the plan, everything else could be explained very easily that most people would have overlooked any possibility of another culprit
I think nothing will ever surpass nagitos trial! Nagito created an entire murder based on his luck to weed out the traitor and make it impossible to know who the killer is, him knowing they will find out everything yet not being able to know the traitor, was the ultimate trump card that was only beaten by friendship plot-armor. Nagito will probabely stay number 1 for ever!
facts! i've played this game since 2012 when it came out and until now i still liked his chapter and he is by far the most big brain character since chapter 1! it's just sad that instead of talking about how amazingly written a character is and their ability, people in the fandom are too focused on talking about a character's morality and bullying people who like him and making him a meme. despite all the revelation in the final chapter and in the anime, the fandom really reduced this character into a joke or a plague for being the way he is in a game or anime about /killing/
Kaede one is pretty much the kost surprising one because for a charavter we assumr control of, we never notcie any conspicious action of her leading to be the 'murderer' of Rantaro
The writing in that chapter is genius, looking back there’s a couple of moments that hint towards her plan, but nothing super obvious on a first play through.
I had my suspicions during the scene in the warehouse after Shuichi leaves to get the cameras, where you're required to look around, and Kaede puts focus on the shot put balls. When I saw the murder weapon, I figured that knowing how Danganronpa likes to make very small and otherwise niche callbacks to certain scenes, her examining a shot put ball would play some part into it. They were basically confirmed when I saw Miu's picture of the books, because of how long the game made me spend on "organizing" them.
Kokichi wanted to create a murder that not even Monokuma himself could solve. Both the victim and culprit intended on doing so just to outsmart him in his own game, that’s why Kaito persuaded Monokuma to partake in the trial too. What truly kept both individuals from winning were both Shuichi and K1-BO, K1-BO for being the one to find Kokichi’s bloodstained clothes in the toilet drain, the only evidence that implicated them being the actual victim, and Shuichi solely for his detective skills and his extreme ability to string everything altogether just like how he had done with the previous cases, unaware that he was falling into Monokuma’s trap of giving away the culprit’s identity _before_ the voting time truly began. Despite Shuichi’s attempt at lying to help Kaito once he finally figured it out, it was already too late.
for mikan's, you forgot the fact that nagito had pointed out, which was that she lied about ibuki's cause of death during her autopsy. ibuki was strangled to death, which is why the rope had fraying in the center, but strangulation marks vs hanging marks look completely different, something which mikan should've known
Couldn’t Leon just say, “Hifumi dipped Sayaka’s finger in blood, then he wrote ‘Sayaka’s’ dying message, then he went to the incinerator, and broke the glass ball there, used the incinerator to get rid of the bloody evidence, closed the room, and left.” Like, that would be plausible, right?
Gonta Had No Alibi No Witnesses Alone During The Crime Kokichi Snitched Was Close To The Toilet Paper When He Fled The Rooftop Put The Wrong Cords Into The Visor Poor Gonta😭😢
Kokichi pretending to drink the antidote made it so that him being the one to die would never disrupt the game. Kokichi apparently did not die of poison without evidence to prove otherwise, and the button is too far away to press it yourself and set up the video, so the only person possible to kill Kokichi would be Kaito for everyone watching. And so either Monokuma decides they were right or wrong based on who they voted.
Honestly, the only culprits who could’ve got away with it were Gundham, Kirumi and Kaito because there were real slight evidences against them. Gundham obviously wouldn’t have killed everyone, but if he was actually trying to get away, he would have won the trial. Unfortunately, the sole fact that he was here when the alarm triggered was crucial against him, maybe if he was faster or more discreet, that wouldn’t happened. Honestly, Kirumi just had bad luck, her crime was literally perfect, that slight detail about the trash being in the pool could have slipped away from someone’s mind, fortunately Shuichi was here. If she used Ryoma’s hat instead of her gloves, there would have been literally no evidences against her, or if she just LEFT RYOMA IN HIS LAB, literally anyone could have done it, she was just tryna be extra Kaito is the same as Gundham, but it was far too risky to let monokuma decide who’s the culprit
I think that Angie's murder was also impossible to solve, because the only thing linking Kiyo to the murder was the Katana, which he said that he didn't care about If only he just stop thinking about the see saw homicide he would have scaped
Kaito was lost by the fact that Kokichi would have to die to throw people off. Kokichi seems too self serving and childish to sacrifice himself. Kaito had an illness and was going to die regardless. Maki had a future still. This was the only way for these events to pan out.
my issue with Celeste was that she completely over planned and dominated when it came to the “evidence”. Being the only one to see the attacker, bringing up other pieces of evidence after the investigation such as the robot blueprints (at least in the anime I forgot how it went down in the game), conveniently having a picture of Hifumi being “attacked” by the attacker, etc. Too much of a try hard plan that ended up implicating her.
Peko could have gotten away with her case if fuyahiko just took the L and not gave a damn about the rest of the group 🤣 peko was the true MVP because she set him up perfectly and he didnt follow thru until the end
yeah but, peko was still the true blackened not fuyuhiko. i think she will commit seppuku if she survived the class trial then seeing fuyuhiko get killed
@@emote3976 She tried to convince Monokuma that Fuyuhiko is the real killer, and he should be saved.. Monokuma even thought about doing so but Fuyuhiko decided to not follow it
@@devenyvb3990 lol, Monokuma knows about it from the beginning, he just went along because it was fun to watch but the truth will not change, Peko was still the killer, Nagito even commented about it. It was not up to Fuyuhiko to decide whether he was the blackened or not lol
Let´s be honest, I knew it was Celeste all along... I mean... the culprit in an anime costume? only one person could´ve done something like that... and it was Hifumi. If we take into consideration only both Celeste and Hifumi (who were stablished to be a duo thanks to the previous chapter) saw the giant cardboard anime Robot. And only them where visibly attacked by it, that leaves only Celeste to be kinda sus... the robot was the piece of evidence that gave it away for me...
To be fair the reason Leon left so many clues behind is that he didn't know there would be a trial to prove his guilt or not, as the trial only got announced after he killed Sayaka
He could have blame naegi too,by his luck he can throw the ball to the button,and about leons name written with blood,the killer can write leons name with blood
Regarding the 2nd case, I’m surprised the Dumbbell wasn’t more if a focus, as it seemed like only Sakura and Mondo could use it effectively as a weapon.
Leon: 11037 Mondo: Mistakingly mentioning the colour of Chihiro's 'Blue' Tracksuit AND Byakuya witnessing Mondo leave the crime scene Celestia: Mistakingly saying "Those guys" before she even learned of Ishimaru's death Sakura: The size of the footprints in the spilled powder Teruteru: Hearing Teruteru's voice during the blackout Peko: The Yellow Gummy, and the Empty Water Bottles combined with her being the only person drenched in water upon arrival at the Diner AND bringing her Bamboo Swordbag Mikan: The limitations of the Camera, the Filming Locations & the Bonus Hemp Bag Gundham: Fuuyuhiko's being awake in the lounge Nagito: His Goal to weed out the Traitor Kaede: The Camera Flashing Kirumi: Black leather scraps in the pool Korekiyo: The Murder Weapon could only have been prepared by the one who covered the cage with the white sheet, as well as the False Magic Circle Made of Salt AND finally the dried up bloodstain under the floorboard Gonta: The location of Gonta & the Toilet Paper seconds after the crashing sound of Miu's lifeless body hitting the Chapel wall Kaito: The Video Camera Recording of 'Kaito's' Death
Yes, but he didn't because if Fuyu and Kazu decided to check the deluxe rooms and saw he wasn't sleeping he would've been screwed even worse, the thing is they didn't check the rooms, but Gundham thought they would.
@@dangerfrombelownot rlly, he could’ve told em that he “had no clue an alarm went off” and mentioned that the deluxe rooms are sound proof. He couldn’t go back to his room because he was worried he’d get caught sneaking back and that would’ve had them be suspicious of him right away
@@satorikis Pretty sure he didn't remember they were sound proof lol, no one really did, that's why it was such a huge point at the trial, plus, all that I said beforehand was mentioned in the trial, I know because I had just rewatched it before commenting that lol
@@dangerfrombelow I just rewatched it too, and gundham must’ve known especially if he wanted to go back to his room before the alarm went off as nagito said “would secure his alibi” and even better if he was sleeping. It doesn’t matter if he slept though because nagito did remember the rooms were sound proof as gundham did (unsurprisingly so considering they’re the smartest from the entire class if you don’t include chiaki considering shes an ai)
Evidence Against Each Killer and How to Negate It *Leon* - Be more careful 11037: Erase the message! Bloody fabric: Just throw it out in the trash can. After all, almost every character has a white, long-sleeved shirt Crystal Ball: Won’t be used if Leon threw his stuff in the trash can Toolkit: There’s no way to prove Leon used it now *Mondo* - Watch your words/Don’t be honorable Blue Tracksuit: Don’t say shit Chihiro’s Gender: Don’t call him a dude E-Locker: Don’t tamper with the evidence that Chihiro is a boy Room Swap: Don’t swap the rooms Byakuya: If Mondo never moved Chihiro’s body, Byakuya wouldn’t have seen it. At most, he’d see Mondo coming out, but Mondo could also just hide until Byakuya leaves *Celestia* - Don’t overcomplicate things so you can live out your Celestia Ludenberg delusions Robo Justice: Make sure you can move in the suit “Those Guys”: Say you were talking about everyone who died in chapters 1 and 2 Real Name: If you just said you were part Japanese part French from the start, they’d have no reason to doubt you *Teruteru* - Stfu Scream: Don’t fucking scream bro Pose: If you never claimed to be in the room, you wouldn’t have to know the pose On the Bone Meat: Hide the weapon in your pants or something *Peko* - Stop everyone’s assumptions Sodas: Have Fuyuhiko confirm that you went out swimming Bamboo Sword Bag: Another assumption they couldn’t confirm *Mikan* - Stfu “That Angle”: Don’t mention it Tote Bag: Find a way to prove you didn’t watch the movie or that Ibuki did watch the movie Autopsy: Just confirm she was strangled *Gundham* - Be more chill (And before you say it, yes, he DID want to win, that’s the whole point of his philosophy) Alarm Clock: Don’t go. Just stay in your deluxe room Hamsters: Another assumption. How do they know he used the hamsters? Anyone could’ve set up something to turn off Nekomaru Bonus - Hammer: Smash it on Nekomaru’s body so it looks like it was used *Nagito* - Don’t leave any obvious opportunities where only one person could’ve done it Fire extinguisher: Empty the fire extinguishers halfway so there needs to be multiple extinguishers used. To make sure the traitor uses the right one, leave it to Monomi to give it to them in secret or something *Kaede* - Do it alone. If Shuichi didn’t know what you were up to and you never specified anything to Miu, no one would even be aware of what you were doing in the first place. The only evidence against you is Shuichi *Kirumi* - Don’t be obvious Alibi: Don’t say you were by the gym! Scrap of Fabric: Clean it up in the morning. That’s your job, isn’t it? *Korekiyo* - Don’t be so fucking obvious Katana: Maybe don’t use the item that YOU own Tenko’s Murder: Maybe don’t use the ritual that YOU wanted to do Magic Circle: Maybe draw the circle for YOUR ritual correctly! *Gonta* - You were done from the start. Kokichi knew about the murder *Kaito* - Don’t be a freaking legend. Stay in the same Exisal
The parts of each game that made me cry the most: THH: I didn’t cry but Aoi’s reaction to the fact Sakura killed herself GD: Chapters 2, 4 and 5 Fuyuhiko begging for Peko to stay and even putting his life on the line, Gundham’s final speech to his hamsters and how calm Chiaki was about her own death KH: Chapter 5. Just chapter 5. Shuichi thinking about killing himself, Knowing whos body it was, Kaito’s confession, Maki trying to save him. Not joking at this part I was literally crying my eyes out but I saw my sister and stopped (because my sister slapped me when I cried at Gundham’s death)
Love how Leon’s trial was the first and the last ever time where the ultimate talent was actually needed. + Kirumi would have survived if she used Ryoma’s hat instead of her gloves. The transportation way would be discovered yes, but there is nothing else pointing at the culprit
Kaito left 0 evidence and most of the evidence is actually intentional and kaito's goal was to end the killing game but he don't want to see his friends dying, so he confessed
TW: Spoilers for SDRA2 Something that I really liked about chapter 2, is that the game sets up this, extremely, intelligent girl named Kokoro Mitsume. And she’s brilliant. And she isn’t annoying like Kokichi or Nagito where she purposely hides factual information from everyone in order to learn more about the crime. She already knew who the culprit was from the last trial, even before it started, which is a feat only achieved by her classmate, Kanade, and of course, the culprit. But she didn’t say anything to stir up drama with everyone, because she still wasn’t 100% sure it was them, but she’s extremely, EXTREMELY talented and helpful to each trial. Then in chapter 2, the culprit actually makes the correct decision of killing the SMARTEST out of the bunch, which makes me respect them much more. It makes me kind of angry over a plot hole in all of Danganronpa, where like, why isn’t the protagonist ever, like, targeted by the culprit, especially characters like Shuichi and Kyoko, who are extremely masterful detectives. Like, Kirumi probably would have gotten away with her crime if it weren’t for Shuichi, so why didn’t characters realize how useful he was, and kill him? The same is true for Kyoko, Byakuya, Nagito, oh wait, no not Nagito, Chiaki, Hajime, even characters like Makoto, Maki, etc. like, most of these people except for Makoto, (due to his ultimate luck always saving him at the last moment) and Maki would be extremely easy to try and kill, as they aren’t really that difficult of a person to take down, like you can use poison, or anything else.
Or how the ball thrown by kaede didn't cause damage to the floor if it feel on it from a 3 meters height and not from rantaro´s head. Or why the blood splattered as if rantaro was hit from above and not from behind. Or how was he so distracted by the camera that he didn't notice someone walking in by moving the bookcase (yes, there was tons of noise, but he should've felt the movement of air, one can't just open a door that size next to someone without them noticing or taking a long time, specially in a tense situation where they would be paranoid) Honestly, the revision of the trial was neat, but if you think about it too much, it makes little sense.
@@sasir2013 tbh v3 has a lot of questionable things like,in the first chapter in the drone photo you can clearly see that the book where the ball fell is in a different position than rantaro’s body,in the second chapter how the hell did kirumi attached and then separated the two ropes inside of the pool if it was nighttime and in the fifth chapter why did the electrobomb deactivated the press safety function but not the press itself
@@sasir2013 yep,honestly i would’ve preferred if they left it as it was at the beginning because it only made kaede’s death meaningless and as someone that prefers kaede over shuichi that really annoyed me
@@pi-xn1kq I don't remember the other details as well, but the press it's purely mechanical, so it's feasible that it would still work since it doesn't have microchips or any delicate electronic parts. About wether the first case should've been left as it was or not, I liked the idea of revisiting an old trial with new info, I just think that the crime scene should've looked different from the beginning to accomodate for it. As it is, the crime scene and the crime don't match up.
I actually think Kirumi could have won the trial if she threw Ryoma's Body into the piranhas from the beginning and let them devour him Before the magic show because then they would have a harder time figuring out when Ryoma Died
I like how nobody questions how Gundham was able to not just knock Nekomaru out, but proceed to carry probably a 300+ lb robot to the elevator after two days of malnourishment. Now THAT is a true badass!
@@loveedinaow can't you understand that this plan would not have worked anyway?!1) this plan could be part of this fucking production called Danganronpa 53. Monokuma could say "oh well, if you didn't guess right, then you'll all die. So what if I didn't guess too?".
@@loveedina well. As we know, this whole game is staged. There is a 50/50 chance that the chapter 5 case was written in the script for the game. 50/50 because all the characters are still real people who are still "improvising" because they don’t know the script, although they stick to it.
tbh kirumi did not need to make her murder case so complicated, she could’ve left ryoma in his ultimate lab, that way there wouldn’t be more evidence and clues to solving the murder
you know if kaede saw rantaro by himself in the library than she would grab him by the hand and run away or stopped him from entering the library or he could have bought a weapon in the library to defend himself.
2:26 Im gonna pull a nagito on this one The people who knew an iron skewer was missing was teruteru(culprit) byakuya(ded) and hajime, if hajime brought that up in the class trial no one would believe his ahh cause no one except him knows an iron skewer is missing
WHY ARE THERE SO MUCH “THE ONE PIECE THE ONCE PIECE IS REEEEEAAAAALLLLLLLL” COMMENTS
Because memes.
THE TITE.., THE TITEMANIA IS REAAL!!!!
is this anime good?
@@Afanofbeginningits fire along with the games
Can we get much higher?
I always had this tought that Kirumi could have easily won the trial if she chose to kill Shuichi instead of Ryoma, literally NO ONE in drv3 would have guessed that the piece of fabric in the pool was from her gloves, actually they wouldn't have known she transportated the body in a ropeway, not even Kokichi.
Props to Kirumi for being the only character that actually did an almost, even perfect murder 😔 (I mean, Nagito too but doesn’t count, it’s luck based)
@@jokarsen3858 belive that if Kirumi had just left Ryoma's body at the Room or even just throw it on the pool, they would never be able to discover who killed him
Also Angie's murder was likely impossible to solve if Kiyo hadn't confessed killing Tenko, cuz the only thing linking him to the crime was the Katana, which he stated that he didn't care about
@@molequesgames784 for real! But I think putting ryoma in the pool would be a bad idea cause the pool wasn’t full during nighttime and next morning, nobody could have drowned here, even Ryoma since the pool wasn’t deep at all.
Kirumi and Kiyo honestly were just being extra for no reason, like leaving the body where they found/not proceeding with another plan with multiple evidences leading to their demise was a better option but oh well 💀
@@jokarsen3858is it really luck based if his talent is luck?
@@BLazeWigglytuff i mean, technically yes cause well, that’s his talent. A plan like that wouldn’t really work for a normal student, what are the odds ? Still, I’m not denying that Nagito’s plan is perfect, it’s just…Nagito 😭
I think that the simplest the murder is, the easier it will be for the culprit to get away with it
Yeah, like complicating it (most of the time) leaves more clues behind
@@spiritbaki108 Thats the reasoning
exactly, best example of that is Kirumi. If she hadn't gone out of her way to make it complicated but just left Ryoma in his lab, she would have won.
@@LmnJuc-on5tf LiT butn Still Kirumi had one of the BEST Murder plan xd
@@spiritbaki108 what the fuck drawn to life fan in the wild
Kokichi/Kaito's murder was the most clever of the whole danganronpa franchise. It was so elaborate on purpose and it was genuinely so smart.
Kokichi died in the hydraulic press and wrote a whole script for kaito to today so yea it was all Kokichi that planned it
I feel like Gundham's was more thought out since he didnt have a script or plan he could rely on
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No matter how much I look at it, I still can't get over about Hajime's pose here, I swear man's poses was just so extra in every "you're the culprit" scene😭
He was pretty extra in the scenes, but this pose speaks more "I will goddam strangle that guy"
the power of breaking your back 🤩
FRR
And chiaki is just like 🤔🤔🤔
The other key to Mondo's defeat was his handbook.
While he was on a sauna match with Taka, he was fully clothed, he accidentally brought his handbook with him, which broke due to the intense heat.
Mondo replaced his handbook with either Leon's or Maizono's after discovering this. He also destroyed Chihiro's notebook the same way, as to conceal his friend's identity - making amends with the person he killed as a promise between men.
He definitely replaced it with Leon's. How else could he get to the men's changing room?
I think ppl get V3-5 wrong. There was no concrete proof of who is the killer, aside one os the suspects testimony, and Monokuma has the final saying on the matter, so his word would be final. Kokichi knew this, which is why he had Kaito kill him, because if everyone believed Kaito was dead, it wouldn't matter who Monokuma claimed to be the killer, he would be wrong regardless because he claimed that Kaito was dead. The moment Shuichi found out that Kokichi was dead, it was over, Kaito come out of the exisal, claiming to be the culprit so the others would live. He could have said "Maki is the killer", but Monokuma would have just said "No, you" and that was it.
Actually, thanks to Maki, Monokuma wouldn't be able to fairly judge this case. No matter who died, there were always two valid options for the blackened:
- Kaito died: Kokichi could be the culprit by using the press or Maki ciuld be the one by using the poison arrow.
- Kokichi died: Kaito could be the culprit by using the press or Maki ciuld be the one by using the poison arrow.
Because Monokuma cannot analyze the body, he cannot know what ended up killing the victim.
@@toumabyakuya It doesn't matter because we know what would happen. Tsumugi would do exactly what she did in the 6th trial when Shuichi revealed she was the true killer. She exclaims: "So"
She doesn't care that the killing game was unfair and neither does anyone watching which is what Kokichi's gambled on.
His plan would have succeeded but without the result he wanted
@@LMAO-hk1zz Thing is that neither Kokichi nor Kaito have any way to know this. They cannot predict the future, so they wouldn't know this is how Monokuma would act.
Was it a gamble? Yes, a big one at that, but Kokichi did though that he knew how Monokuma operated fully.
to be fair if i was kodduka than i would switch kaito and maki around or kokichi and kaito around.
@@LMAO-hk1zz This, Kokichi wasn't aware that the killing game was bogus from the start. Tsumugi broke the game from the first trial and the game resumed as planned from there. Kokichi assumed the mastermind cared about the 'sanctity' of the killing game's rules and devised a plan to break the game, not knowing Tsumugi didn't care about the rules and was only trying to make the game an entertaining spectacle. Which he created.
6:57 Well, as Korekiyo himself said, that was meaningless in the class trial. Well...If there was another blackened, because the new rule stated that if there were 2 killings, they should try to figure out who was the first murderer .
I think it’s because that confession already made people suspect him further. He’s already killed once, who’s to say he didn’t kill twice? He was untrustworthy from that point forward.
They later found out that the person who killed angie HAD to know about the seesaw plan that killed tenko and korekiyo was the only one
@@MotorcycleCheetah yeah but im kinda curious if it was not Korekiyo who killed Angie? like if he survives and then what would be his interaction with the other people because they know he was a killer? im curious to see that lol
Know the funny thing about Korekiyo case? He could have totally gotten away with it had he not killed Angie
Correction: Had he not killed Tenko**
Kaito: Stop it that’s enough! There’s no point…
Kokichi: No. Stop. What are you doing? WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!?!
Kokichi died in vain. Truly a shame.
Kokichi would have died in vain anyway, because it turned out the people behind the killing game ultimately didn't actually care about the integrity of its rules
No it was to late by that point. Monokuma already knew Kaito was alive thanks to shuichi shuichi’s totally obvious “actually it’s not Kaito nobody vote for Kaito I’m an idiot” excuse was never gonna fool monokuma. Kokichi’s plan was already ruined by that point the only choice left was everyone but Kaito dies or Kaito dies and Kaito was already dying anyway.
kirumi could have totally won if she just left ryoma in his ultimate lab. that way everyone was completely a suspect almost. she made it way too complicated and left behind obvious evidence because of it. the only way they could have won is by determining everyone’s alibi’s
If he'd been in his lab, then it would've vlosed and been gone forever - meaning no class trial would've been held, and she wouldn't have gotten out
@@Avocadontthat’s not necessarily true, they would have been allowed to investigate his room before the trial meaning they could have still figured out it was her if enough evidence was there or not. It’s only shut for good once the trial has ended
@Avocadont maybe Monokuma would reveal someone died like Chihiro
@@Avocadont you do know the other classmates will grow suspicious if they don't see Ryoma right? For sure they try to search him all around the school, since he can't even leave it. So his body won't be gone forever lol. The only pro this can give is they won't know the exact day/time that Ryoma was killed.
However, perhaps any culprit would like that the victim's body be found, especially Kirumi. She killed Ryoma because she wants to get out to save her nation. You think she would just stay quiet so that no one would find the body? How else can she get out if there is no class trial? Lol
@emote3976 the ultimate labs get locked when the owner dies, and since ryomas body would never be discovered, a class trial would never be held
Why Celestial lost her trial: she did nothing right.
And yea Gundham could've pinned the crime on Nagito. Just say nagito could've lied about not hearing the alarm, blatantly lied about the prize he received and he confessed to have completed the Final Death Room. Even the killing itself could've been done without the hamsters, just say he returned the tools that immobilized nekomaru in the FDR.
I think what sealed her fate was that half-hearted scream she did during the investigation. Even Byakuga found that suspicious saying to her that was quite the scream for someone like her. Hell, Celeste was pretty much taking the full helms of the investigation where in the previous two, she was just standing to the side most of the time.
But also, Gundham admitted that he didn't use Hamsters to neutralize Nekomaru. Throughout the trial, he's giving hints to why he's the killer, but when Nagito insinuates that Gundham took an easy way out of killing someone, Gundham claimed "Nekomaru's goodnight button is on the back of his neck. To press it, I'd have to get behind him." He wasn't proving that he couldn't kill Nekomaru, he was proving that he couldn't push the button without fighting him. Meaning he was really defending his pride more than himself. But then Hajime gets clever and says "Your hamsters could do it, I'm sure." And Gundham is just so impressed that he accepts that even if that's not how it happened, it's still DEFINITELY possible, and nonetheless proves he's the killer.
After the trial, he says "I DID fight Nekomaru." Implying that using his hamsters to put Nekomaru to sleep ISN'T what he did.
You should watch "Celestia Ludenberg analysis Game vs Live action" it's a good analysis on Celeste true potential that was wasted.
She lost bc of bad writing tbh
Gundham couldnt have pinned the crime on nagito becaused it was made clear that all the deluxe rooms are soundproof even Sonia didnt hear anything so if he was in his room he definitely wasnt supposed to hear anything so it was weird how he heard the ringing also celestia lost bc of her and hifumi, who was proven guilty for taka's murder before her , being the only people who were constantly interacting with the suspect and she also said "those guys died" before she was informed about taka' death implying she knew all along and she was in on it which lead to everyone questioning her real name to match with hifumi's final words
Actually, Kaede could have won her trial, if she didn't lie to protect Shuichi. The reason she lost was because she didn't want to win.
yeah but shuichi could be falsely accused of murder.
@@viviennemorgan7217 I mean... someone needs to be falsely accused in order for culprit to win a trial and it doesn't matter who, since everyone except culprut would die.
@@OKIGorgon but you can kill someone in the killing game so you can get executed.
@@viviennemorgan7217 if that's the case, then Kaito's reason shouldn't be that he let himself be caught. Once class trial started, he intended to get executed too. I just want a bit of consistency.
@@OKIGorgon that's true if the Mastermind wouldn't make kaito and kokichi enemies.
If they wanted to continue the trial in V3 Chapter 5, Shuichi could've mentioned the possibility of Kokichi succumbing to the poison before being crushed.
Yeah but that would make the trial TOO COMPLICATED
@@StarPlatinum-ch3gi Wasn't the whole point of this class trial was to derail the Killing Game?
The danger of continuing it though is from what we know later... Monokuma would've killed both Kaito and Maki as a result.
@@StarPlatinum-ch3gi uh thats the point???
YES! thats what i was thinking of. so basically, Maki, Kaito and Kokichi are the possible culprits.
“SHOULD’VE KEPT YA MOUTH SHUT.” will never not crack me up
the fU-
I never played Danganronpa, just came here to say that I initially read this as the "One Piece" of evidence rather than the "One" piece of evidence
It's kinda impressive that Gundam, the guy that wanted to be found out, had a really really well thought out plan that made it hard for him to be found out
I think the culprit should target the smartest persons in the group in order to avoid getting caught like Kyoko or Shuichi, but then given how smart they are, it is also possible that they could dodge the attacks or guard themselves.
kyoko could protect herself but i doubt shuichi could to be honest
Yeah I wonder why, nobody ever thought of targeting the main character . while they are basically the only one who always finds the culprit. Or maybe it's because they're friends with most of the characters...?
Honestly it would have been more interesting if a scenario like that happen.
I don't think Shuichi can do that, he's so weak.
Because Naegiri has to continue
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if kiru just left ryoma in his lab after she drowned him and didn't do the whole ropeway thing she wouldve won
Kirumis plan was to obfuscate the time and place of the murder. While implicating Himiko in the process.
@@LMAO-hk1zzEven if people could figure out the time frame, what's next? Everyone was scattered at the time because of Kokichi's antics. Very few people had alibis, creating a scenario where too many people could be the culprit and there is no way to decide who aside from guessing.
@@luluzin5022 Exactly that was her plan. Theirs no "Lucky Student" you'd have to randomly guess between the plethora of suspects and due to Kirumis attitude towards her group and alibi with Kokichi almost no one would suspect her.
This can easily be seen in the first half of the trial. They all boiled it down to Kaito and Maki and didn't even know about Kirumis ropeway trick until Maki's testimony saying that the crime happened after night.
Monosukes slip up also reinforced the fact the crime happened at night and in the fashion it did.
Those are the 2 main key details that negatively effected her plan and they were both things outside of Kirumi's control.
@@LMAO-hk1zz The plan you described does not necessitate the ropeway trick on the first place. Everything the ropeway did was try to frame Himiko for the murder, but proving that it was not her was so easy, it took 20% of the trial's runtime. And even if people didn't suspect Kirumi's trick at first, there were too many evidences left behind. The glass panel on the piranhas' tank, the tube on the pool, the blood markings on the ceiling, and of course, the black fabric that caused her downfall. But even if her glove hadn't fallen on the pool, Kirumi was the only one left alone in the gym right before closing time, which means she was the only one who could've prepared the trick anyway. Those evidences might seem difficult to figure out, but they have an Ultimate Detective on the team. Kirumi would have been better off not creating unnecessary evidence in the first place. Just leaving Ryoma's body on his lab already accomplishes everything you mentioned.
Youre wrong about Teruteru if he hadnt shouted he would have been in even MORE trouble , because the moment the group finds out about the trap door leading to under the dining room they would have instantly found out it was Teruteru as he was the only one not present in tye dining room when the killer would have went in to kill byakuya
The First Blood Perk also protected the real killer if you think about it...
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Kaede's death was still such a waste. She was such a great protagonist, only to throw it away.
Its actually tsumugi’s fault
I was kinda hoping that she'd take the perk and try to get help from the outside and we could get duo protagonists. I think having kaede explore a fake set of a city would have added the entertainment value tsumugi was looking for without anyone escaping.
Yeah. I get that Danganronpa likes its shock value but I remember being excited to play as a female protagonist for once.
Kiyo also had the perfect murder with Angie since there was nothing to tie him into her death (since Angie only let the student council members into her lab and only those related to it and Kokichi with his lockpicking skills could've gotten in). Kiyo would've won had he not gone through with the fucking seesaw trick that eventually lead to Angie's murder being solved (since the scythe used to kill Tenko ended up near the exact spot as Angie's blood that dried up from earlier).
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Actually, it was because the shower wasn't working. It's only against the rules to change your clothes there.
Always wondered why culprits just don't hide evidence like weapons or bloody clothes in their room
Other don't have access to it because you can just lock it, so it would be smartest thing to do
When investigating, the participants can examine their rooms
You cant hode anything monokuma has cameras everywhere and allows them all to do a through and through search of each room so they’re prepared for a proper class trial
@@mibbzx1493 you can't hide anything *from Monokuma* you can hide anything from the rest of the class.
@@vincentlucario5450 if the victim isn't in your room then there is no reason for anyone to go check yours they don't have the kind of time to check every room
@@Astriyumi if you’re suspicious, leave evidence, etc they would suspect you and check your room. Also it depends on how long they actually get since the time limit changes. Other people would probably split up as well to cover more ground.
Do yall think Peko could have won her trial if she:
Went to the beach house clothed, killed Mahiru and just hid her clothes somewhere so she arrived at the diner with her bikini on but not wet
Edit: She could stash the clothes in her bamboo sword bag so it can't be seen by others while she drops it off at her cottage
I don't think so bc if she didn't hide her clothes carefully it would be discovered by someone and she couldn't throw them outside the beach house bc littering is not allowed and if she tried to go to her cottage to put them she had high chances of getting caught but the main reason she couldn't do that is bc it's against the rules to change in the beach house
yes
@@mtlaura271go outside, get out of your clothes, stuff them in your bamboo bag, boom! problem solved.
Can't litter as per the rules.
There was also another part that would have helped her in the trial, though idk if it would have won her the trial. If she would have placed the right type of gummy, she would have had an easier time framing Hiyoko since almost everyone believed it was her. Besides the direct murder part of the plan, everything else could be explained very easily that most people would have overlooked any possibility of another culprit
I think nothing will ever surpass nagitos trial! Nagito created an entire murder based on his luck to weed out the traitor and make it impossible to know who the killer is, him knowing they will find out everything yet not being able to know the traitor, was the ultimate trump card that was only beaten by friendship plot-armor. Nagito will probabely stay number 1 for ever!
Facts nagito was big brain asf he put the poison in the fire grenades so nobody would know who killed anubody
I mean, his luck is basically a Diavolo Ex Machina, so it is fair to be solve with a Deus Ex Machina.
facts! i've played this game since 2012 when it came out and until now i still liked his chapter and he is by far the most big brain character since chapter 1! it's just sad that instead of talking about how amazingly written a character is and their ability, people in the fandom are too focused on talking about a character's morality and bullying people who like him and making him a meme.
despite all the revelation in the final chapter and in the anime, the fandom really reduced this character into a joke or a plague for being the way he is in a game or anime about /killing/
He’s definitely one of if not unironically the smartest character in the series
I'm not sure if u forgot this one line from mikan which made her the culprit "Just from that angle? "
Kaede one is pretty much the kost surprising one because for a charavter we assumr control of, we never notcie any conspicious action of her leading to be the 'murderer' of Rantaro
The writing in that chapter is genius, looking back there’s a couple of moments that hint towards her plan, but nothing super obvious on a first play through.
I had my suspicions during the scene in the warehouse after Shuichi leaves to get the cameras, where you're required to look around, and Kaede puts focus on the shot put balls. When I saw the murder weapon, I figured that knowing how Danganronpa likes to make very small and otherwise niche callbacks to certain scenes, her examining a shot put ball would play some part into it. They were basically confirmed when I saw Miu's picture of the books, because of how long the game made me spend on "organizing" them.
Another name for V3: Kokichi Ruins Everything
I mean honestly good radiance considering that peaks he's ruining everything for Tsumugi aswell-
Loved this series, it was always that final piece that made it satisfying
Thank you for all the dr content! 🙏
"Kaede was the only one who could have ORCHESTRATED the murder"
really, a pun?
Kokichi wanted to create a murder that not even Monokuma himself could solve. Both the victim and culprit intended on doing so just to outsmart him in his own game, that’s why Kaito persuaded Monokuma to partake in the trial too. What truly kept both individuals from winning were both Shuichi and K1-BO, K1-BO for being the one to find Kokichi’s bloodstained clothes in the toilet drain, the only evidence that implicated them being the actual victim, and Shuichi solely for his detective skills and his extreme ability to string everything altogether just like how he had done with the previous cases, unaware that he was falling into Monokuma’s trap of giving away the culprit’s identity _before_ the voting time truly began. Despite Shuichi’s attempt at lying to help Kaito once he finally figured it out, it was already too late.
for mikan's, you forgot the fact that nagito had pointed out, which was that she lied about ibuki's cause of death during her autopsy. ibuki was strangled to death, which is why the rope had fraying in the center, but strangulation marks vs hanging marks look completely different, something which mikan should've known
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Haha orchestrated
(Becuase Kaede is the ultimate pianist)
Couldn’t Leon just say,
“Hifumi dipped Sayaka’s finger in blood, then he wrote ‘Sayaka’s’ dying message, then he went to the incinerator, and broke the glass ball there, used the incinerator to get rid of the bloody evidence, closed the room, and left.”
Like, that would be plausible, right?
The toolkit will still be a definitive proof of his guilt tho.
could hifumi enter a standard shower with a body in it though? They seem too small for that
@@sasir2013bro what hifumi do?
If the unsolvable murder was 100% foolproof, then Shuichi wouldn't be able to discover it
Hifumi telling the name helped and hurt Celeste since she was already on the ropes by the time she tried giving that evidence.
Gonta Had No Alibi
No Witnesses
Alone During The Crime
Kokichi Snitched
Was Close To The Toilet Paper When He Fled The Rooftop
Put The Wrong Cords Into The Visor
Poor Gonta😭😢
To think abıut it if they all voted Kokichi no one would survived Kaito would also die from his illness 💀
Kokichi pretending to drink the antidote made it so that him being the one to die would never disrupt the game. Kokichi apparently did not die of poison without evidence to prove otherwise, and the button is too far away to press it yourself and set up the video, so the only person possible to kill Kokichi would be Kaito for everyone watching. And so either Monokuma decides they were right or wrong based on who they voted.
Honestly, the only culprits who could’ve got away with it were Gundham, Kirumi and Kaito because there were real slight evidences against them.
Gundham obviously wouldn’t have killed everyone, but if he was actually trying to get away, he would have won the trial. Unfortunately, the sole fact that he was here when the alarm triggered was crucial against him, maybe if he was faster or more discreet, that wouldn’t happened.
Honestly, Kirumi just had bad luck, her crime was literally perfect, that slight detail about the trash being in the pool could have slipped away from someone’s mind, fortunately Shuichi was here. If she used Ryoma’s hat instead of her gloves, there would have been literally no evidences against her, or if she just LEFT RYOMA IN HIS LAB, literally anyone could have done it, she was just tryna be extra
Kaito is the same as Gundham, but it was far too risky to let monokuma decide who’s the culprit
I think that Angie's murder was also impossible to solve, because the only thing linking Kiyo to the murder was the Katana, which he said that he didn't care about
If only he just stop thinking about the see saw homicide he would have scaped
@@molequesgames784 yeah also Kiyo, guess he really wanted to flex how « smart » his murder plan was 💀
@@jokarsen3858 AND continue the 3rd case thrend
@@Chaki21 yeah, also that I guess lmaooo
Kaito was lost by the fact that Kokichi would have to die to throw people off.
Kokichi seems too self serving and childish to sacrifice himself. Kaito had an illness and was going to die regardless. Maki had a future still. This was the only way for these events to pan out.
my issue with Celeste was that she completely over planned and dominated when it came to the “evidence”. Being the only one to see the attacker, bringing up other pieces of evidence after the investigation such as the robot blueprints (at least in the anime I forgot how it went down in the game), conveniently having a picture of Hifumi being “attacked” by the attacker, etc. Too much of a try hard plan that ended up implicating her.
Korekiyo was basically like: "And for me not to show you my seesaw trick, nonsense?!"
everytime I think that Kirumi could Won if it wasn't of her glove, im SOBBING! Kirumi why did you have to die xd??
even if mondo never mentioned the color of the tracksuit byakuya would have still claimed he saw mondo walking away from the murder scene
Peko could have gotten away with her case if fuyahiko just took the L and not gave a damn about the rest of the group 🤣 peko was the true MVP because she set him up perfectly and he didnt follow thru until the end
yeah but, peko was still the true blackened not fuyuhiko. i think she will commit seppuku if she survived the class trial then seeing fuyuhiko get killed
@@emote3976 She tried to convince Monokuma that Fuyuhiko is the real killer, and he should be saved.. Monokuma even thought about doing so but Fuyuhiko decided to not follow it
@@devenyvb3990 lol, Monokuma knows about it from the beginning, he just went along because it was fun to watch but the truth will not change, Peko was still the killer, Nagito even commented about it. It was not up to Fuyuhiko to decide whether he was the blackened or not lol
Let´s be honest, I knew it was Celeste all along... I mean... the culprit in an anime costume? only one person could´ve done something like that... and it was Hifumi. If we take into consideration only both Celeste and Hifumi (who were stablished to be a duo thanks to the previous chapter) saw the giant cardboard anime Robot. And only them where visibly attacked by it, that leaves only Celeste to be kinda sus... the robot was the piece of evidence that gave it away for me...
She even says so herself after the trial, that the robot costume was a mistake on Hifumi's part, and that she didn't choose a good ally
0:52 IM SORRY THE WHAT THE FU- CUT OUT
well, it's true that in kaito's trial he outed himself at the end, but that was because Shuichi had already jinxed it by being way too smart.
Real reason Teruteru lost his trial: On the bone meat
Meat the bone on
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Actually, it's "the meat bone on".
Cool to see it all in one place like this
To be fair the reason Leon left so many clues behind is that he didn't know there would be a trial to prove his guilt or not, as the trial only got announced after he killed Sayaka
He could have blame naegi too,by his luck he can throw the ball to the button,and about leons name written with blood,the killer can write leons name with blood
Regarding the 2nd case, I’m surprised the Dumbbell wasn’t more if a focus, as it seemed like only Sakura and Mondo could use it effectively as a weapon.
That's because of lazy dr writing.
Leon: 11037
Mondo: Mistakingly mentioning the colour of Chihiro's 'Blue' Tracksuit AND Byakuya witnessing Mondo leave the crime scene
Celestia: Mistakingly saying "Those guys" before she even learned of Ishimaru's death
Sakura: The size of the footprints in the spilled powder
Teruteru: Hearing Teruteru's voice during the blackout
Peko: The Yellow Gummy, and the Empty Water Bottles combined with her being the only person drenched in water upon arrival at the Diner AND bringing her Bamboo Swordbag
Mikan: The limitations of the Camera, the Filming Locations & the Bonus Hemp Bag
Gundham: Fuuyuhiko's being awake in the lounge
Nagito: His Goal to weed out the Traitor
Kaede: The Camera Flashing
Kirumi: Black leather scraps in the pool
Korekiyo: The Murder Weapon could only have been prepared by the one who covered the cage with the white sheet, as well as the False Magic Circle Made of Salt AND finally the dried up bloodstain under the floorboard
Gonta: The location of Gonta & the Toilet Paper seconds after the crashing sound of Miu's lifeless body hitting the Chapel wall
Kaito: The Video Camera Recording of 'Kaito's' Death
Couldn’t gundham have just, snuck back in his room once the alarm rung?
Yes, but he didn't because if Fuyu and Kazu decided to check the deluxe rooms and saw he wasn't sleeping he would've been screwed even worse, the thing is they didn't check the rooms, but Gundham thought they would.
@@dangerfrombelownot rlly, he could’ve told em that he “had no clue an alarm went off” and mentioned that the deluxe rooms are sound proof. He couldn’t go back to his room because he was worried he’d get caught sneaking back and that would’ve had them be suspicious of him right away
@@satorikis Pretty sure he didn't remember they were sound proof lol, no one really did, that's why it was such a huge point at the trial, plus, all that I said beforehand was mentioned in the trial, I know because I had just rewatched it before commenting that lol
@@dangerfrombelow I just rewatched it too, and gundham must’ve known especially if he wanted to go back to his room before the alarm went off as nagito said “would secure his alibi” and even better if he was sleeping. It doesn’t matter if he slept though because nagito did remember the rooms were sound proof as gundham did (unsurprisingly so considering they’re the smartest from the entire class if you don’t include chiaki considering shes an ai)
Evidence Against Each Killer and How to Negate It
*Leon* - Be more careful
11037: Erase the message!
Bloody fabric: Just throw it out in the trash can. After all, almost every character has a white, long-sleeved shirt
Crystal Ball: Won’t be used if Leon threw his stuff in the trash can
Toolkit: There’s no way to prove Leon used it now
*Mondo* - Watch your words/Don’t be honorable
Blue Tracksuit: Don’t say shit
Chihiro’s Gender: Don’t call him a dude
E-Locker: Don’t tamper with the evidence that Chihiro is a boy
Room Swap: Don’t swap the rooms
Byakuya: If Mondo never moved Chihiro’s body, Byakuya wouldn’t have seen it. At most, he’d see Mondo coming out, but Mondo could also just hide until Byakuya leaves
*Celestia* - Don’t overcomplicate things so you can live out your Celestia Ludenberg delusions
Robo Justice: Make sure you can move in the suit
“Those Guys”: Say you were talking about everyone who died in chapters 1 and 2
Real Name: If you just said you were part Japanese part French from the start, they’d have no reason to doubt you
*Teruteru* - Stfu
Scream: Don’t fucking scream bro
Pose: If you never claimed to be in the room, you wouldn’t have to know the pose
On the Bone Meat: Hide the weapon in your pants or something
*Peko* - Stop everyone’s assumptions
Sodas: Have Fuyuhiko confirm that you went out swimming
Bamboo Sword Bag: Another assumption they couldn’t confirm
*Mikan* - Stfu
“That Angle”: Don’t mention it
Tote Bag: Find a way to prove you didn’t watch the movie or that Ibuki did watch the movie
Autopsy: Just confirm she was strangled
*Gundham* - Be more chill (And before you say it, yes, he DID want to win, that’s the whole point of his philosophy)
Alarm Clock: Don’t go. Just stay in your deluxe room
Hamsters: Another assumption. How do they know he used the hamsters? Anyone could’ve set up something to turn off Nekomaru
Bonus - Hammer: Smash it on Nekomaru’s body so it looks like it was used
*Nagito* - Don’t leave any obvious opportunities where only one person could’ve done it
Fire extinguisher: Empty the fire extinguishers halfway so there needs to be multiple extinguishers used. To make sure the traitor uses the right one, leave it to Monomi to give it to them in secret or something
*Kaede* - Do it alone. If Shuichi didn’t know what you were up to and you never specified anything to Miu, no one would even be aware of what you were doing in the first place. The only evidence against you is Shuichi
*Kirumi* - Don’t be obvious
Alibi: Don’t say you were by the gym!
Scrap of Fabric: Clean it up in the morning. That’s your job, isn’t it?
*Korekiyo* - Don’t be so fucking obvious
Katana: Maybe don’t use the item that YOU own
Tenko’s Murder: Maybe don’t use the ritual that YOU wanted to do
Magic Circle: Maybe draw the circle for YOUR ritual correctly!
*Gonta* - You were done from the start. Kokichi knew about the murder
*Kaito* - Don’t be a freaking legend. Stay in the same Exisal
0:50 the fu-
The parts of each game that made me cry the most:
THH: I didn’t cry but Aoi’s reaction to the fact Sakura killed herself
GD: Chapters 2, 4 and 5
Fuyuhiko begging for Peko to stay and even putting his life on the line, Gundham’s final speech to his hamsters and how calm Chiaki was about her own death
KH: Chapter 5. Just chapter 5. Shuichi thinking about killing himself, Knowing whos body it was, Kaito’s confession, Maki trying to save him.
Not joking at this part I was literally crying my eyes out but I saw my sister and stopped (because my sister slapped me when I cried at Gundham’s death)
If you wanna win Danganronpa kill the only person that can find out how everything went down
1:30 honestly, Celestia would have won if she just lied And say that I'm not from Japan And then she would have got away with it
0:53 the fu- cut lol
Love how Leon’s trial was the first and the last ever time where the ultimate talent was actually needed.
+ Kirumi would have survived if she used Ryoma’s hat instead of her gloves. The transportation way would be discovered yes, but there is nothing else pointing at the culprit
0:55 Bakayuka-
Leon's defeat could have been less obvious of he had notice THATONE PIECE OF KEY EVIDENCE.
I just realized something. If Peko was swimming too wouldn’t they see sand on her or even smell the sea water on her?
It should be noted that Sayaka and Leon (and by extension, Mukuro) were unaware of the class trial rules.
this is actually useful for fangans
“Well, looks like I’m off the hook at least, I’ve got me a black one…”
“You should have kept your mouth shut!”
“ *DA FUC* “
For the plot to keep moving
Kaito left 0 evidence and most of the evidence is actually intentional and kaito's goal was to end the killing game but he don't want to see his friends dying, so he confessed
Mondo was always gonna get caught, Togami knew he was the killer
TW: Spoilers for SDRA2
Something that I really liked about chapter 2, is that the game sets up this, extremely, intelligent girl named Kokoro Mitsume. And she’s brilliant. And she isn’t annoying like Kokichi or Nagito where she purposely hides factual information from everyone in order to learn more about the crime. She already knew who the culprit was from the last trial, even before it started, which is a feat only achieved by her classmate, Kanade, and of course, the culprit. But she didn’t say anything to stir up drama with everyone, because she still wasn’t 100% sure it was them, but she’s extremely, EXTREMELY talented and helpful to each trial. Then in chapter 2, the culprit actually makes the correct decision of killing the SMARTEST out of the bunch, which makes me respect them much more. It makes me kind of angry over a plot hole in all of Danganronpa, where like, why isn’t the protagonist ever, like, targeted by the culprit, especially characters like Shuichi and Kyoko, who are extremely masterful detectives. Like, Kirumi probably would have gotten away with her crime if it weren’t for Shuichi, so why didn’t characters realize how useful he was, and kill him? The same is true for Kyoko, Byakuya, Nagito, oh wait, no not Nagito, Chiaki, Hajime, even characters like Makoto, Maki, etc. like, most of these people except for Makoto, (due to his ultimate luck always saving him at the last moment) and Maki would be extremely easy to try and kill, as they aren’t really that difficult of a person to take down, like you can use poison, or anything else.
Haha funny number 11037 got him caught
I still hate how they made Mondo flat out tell everyone about the victim’s tracksuit, it screwed him over hard
its funny how every time mondo appears it says "fucking stop mentioning the tracksuit"
"shouldve kept your mouth shut!"
"the fU-"
The 6th trial is the same for all three games: dont start a killing game
I know a lot of Peapole hate kirumi but, come on She was doing gor Millions of peapole, she deserve to survive xd
i just don't understand how the hell tsumugi cleaned herself after killing rantaro
Or how the ball thrown by kaede didn't cause damage to the floor if it feel on it from a 3 meters height and not from rantaro´s head.
Or why the blood splattered as if rantaro was hit from above and not from behind.
Or how was he so distracted by the camera that he didn't notice someone walking in by moving the bookcase (yes, there was tons of noise, but he should've felt the movement of air, one can't just open a door that size next to someone without them noticing or taking a long time, specially in a tense situation where they would be paranoid)
Honestly, the revision of the trial was neat, but if you think about it too much, it makes little sense.
@@sasir2013 tbh v3 has a lot of questionable things like,in the first chapter in the drone photo you can clearly see that the book where the ball fell is in a different position than rantaro’s body,in the second chapter how the hell did kirumi attached and then separated the two ropes inside of the pool if it was nighttime and in the fifth chapter why did the electrobomb deactivated the press safety function but not the press itself
@@sasir2013 yep,honestly i would’ve preferred if they left it as it was at the beginning because it only made kaede’s death meaningless and as someone that prefers kaede over shuichi that really annoyed me
@@pi-xn1kq I don't remember the other details as well, but the press it's purely mechanical, so it's feasible that it would still work since it doesn't have microchips or any delicate electronic parts.
About wether the first case should've been left as it was or not, I liked the idea of revisiting an old trial with new info, I just think that the crime scene should've looked different from the beginning to accomodate for it. As it is, the crime scene and the crime don't match up.
@sasir2013 also why didnt rantaro, idk, turn around??
im glad kaito never died by his execution so monukuma got pissed but still sad he died
At least he has one of the most peaceful deaths in the series, went out on his own terms
early gang wya
this was a great video!! Keep up the good work ❤
I actually think Kirumi could have won the trial if she threw Ryoma's Body into the piranhas from the beginning and let them devour him Before the magic show because then they would have a harder time figuring out when Ryoma Died
am i the only one who remembers that Mondo was doomed from the start cause Byakuya found out about his murder firsthand?
7:03 same thing with Mondo, Byakuya witnessed Mondo‘s murder, so it was over for Mondo from the beginning.
Byakuya didn't witness Mondo's murder, he came after Mondo already moved the body to the girl's room.
@@DarthFhenix55 yes but when Byakuya entered the Girl‘s lockeroom right after Mondo & the second he saw the body he knew what Mondo did.
I like how nobody questions how Gundham was able to not just knock Nekomaru out, but proceed to carry probably a 300+ lb robot to the elevator after two days of malnourishment. Now THAT is a true badass!
mundo would be either way caught cuz byuakuya saw him walking out of the room when he killed chihiro
Peko could've survived her punishment if she kept on fighting but she cared for Fuyuhiko I wish she survived
"You should have kept your mouth shut!!"
"The Fu-
0:13 capabel
Mokoto:you should’ve kept your mouth shut
Mondo:the fu-
I never felt so disappointed in Kaito honestly
Real the plan would've been perfect if he didn't step out of that Exisal
@@loveedinaow can't you understand that this plan would not have worked anyway?!1) this plan could be part of this fucking production called Danganronpa 53. Monokuma could say "oh well, if you didn't guess right, then you'll all die. So what if I didn't guess too?".
@@Pilipilochka Monokuma didn't know either
@@loveedina well.
As we know, this whole game is staged. There is a 50/50 chance that the chapter 5 case was written in the script for the game. 50/50 because all the characters are still real people who are still "improvising" because they don’t know the script, although they stick to it.
@@loveedinanot really, shuichi's last second lie probably wasn't going to work on monokuma anyway
The “one piece” of evidence 😂
tbh kirumi did not need to make her murder case so complicated, she could’ve left ryoma in his ultimate lab, that way there wouldn’t be more evidence and clues to solving the murder
kaito only lost because of the pause in the murder video. Also because of his heart.
THE ONE PIEC
you know if kaede saw rantaro by himself in the library than she would grab him by the hand and run away or stopped him from entering the library or he could have bought a weapon in the library to defend himself.
that would be what he should have done
2:26
Im gonna pull a nagito on this one
The people who knew an iron skewer was missing was teruteru(culprit) byakuya(ded) and hajime, if hajime brought that up in the class trial no one would believe his ahh cause no one except him knows an iron skewer is missing
THE ONE PIEEECE! THE ONE PIECE IS REEEAL!
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also i fucking love your videos with a passion, KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!!!