The most an average human can do against Rumia is run, she's not likely to pursuit you for long, other way to evade her is by throwing a flashlight at her, or cabbages.
「ああ…こんにちは。道に迷ってしまったのですか？」 The shrine maiden dressed in red and white was working at her shrine, obviously in the middle of something you just interrupted. She startles forward, stands straight up and looks at you dead in the eyes. 「さあ、出口を教えてあげる。ついて来い…」 "Nah, I'd win." 「えっ？ ごめんなさい、私は英語が話せません――」 She is cut off at the end of her sentence by the sudden explosive force generated from your legs as you begin your backwards long jump. She starts again, but realizes that you probably would be fine on your own as you vibrate on the ground intensely, building up speed and skipping like a rock across the dirt and sand path. 「あなたは食用人間ですか？」 Along the way out, you find a little girl hovering in a strange pose who asks a peculiar question, but you ignore it as you are speedrunning your bug-ridden exit. You speed past her as she menacingly faces towards you, shouting strange sounds with her child mouth. Eventually, the vibrations of your body reach the speed of sound, producing a burst of air that people from even the farthest reaches of Gensokyo could hear. The strange girl backs away, astonished. All of the residents of this fantasy world now know your location and IP address, but it's not like they can go to your house. None of this matters to you. All you have to do is keep backwards long jumping until you break out, and before you know it, you're out. The air is cold. The chill of the non-existent wind rushes down your skin like millions of hairs that feel like they're there but aren't. You look around you, but all that meets your eyes is nothing. Your sight is silent, and your hearing is dark. You are confused. You are a bit afraid. You went too far in your backwards long jump and popped out of bounds! But congratulations! You completed the challenge. You did your speedrun. You escaped Gensokyo. And now you're stuck here.
@@qwertyuiop8795 Wow such a dedicated and nice narration for a joke comment, thank you!. Well if I'm in the void uh....I wish to respawn in a safe place?, I got to have some special reward for a speedrun win right?
Despite reimu's famous actions regarding a certain author, becoming a yokai on accident would likely result in her just escorting you out of the village or chasing you out, becoming a yokai because you felt out of place or because you never felt human to begin with would probably just inspire pity in her.
@@Mariaaomo basically an author in the village conspired to have themselves turn into a vengeful spirit in a bid for immortality, basically setting it up so someone would find an unpublished manuscript and publish it under their own name, fulfilling the requirements to come back as a vengeful spirit without the whole driven by vengeance thing. It disgusted reimu so much that she slaughtered the original author despite the fact he was a peaceful youkai
It depends. I agree that if you get alienated from the village to the point where they start fearing you or spread rumors around you, she might spare you because it's a somewhat natural process and doesn't necessarily imply intent. Whats way more dangerous is the scenario of casting the abandon food spell. Since this is freely throwing away your humanity, you will probably make enemies with the human village and inspire special hatred in Reimu. (As far as I understand she draws the line at humans *wanting* to become Youkai, which she considers deeply unnatural) Having Reimu be determined to exterminate you might be one of the more dangerous scenarios. You only need to achieve some limited danmaku abilities to fend off weaker apparitions and you can learn to handle mid-tier and stronger beings, but if she's serious there's almost no way you're going to beat Reimu at any point below danmaku mastery, and if she's like that you will die if she beats you. You can only survive Reimu if her hearts not in it, or if you've evaded her long enough that she maybe starts mellowing out on you.
@@marzipancutter8144 i feel like magicians aren't a concern like that, actually. after all, the core prerequisite that we know of is a spell of _abandon_ food, which means ... well, not needing to eat. which means you become a yokai that does not eat _humans,_ removing a lot of the risk in letting you do as you wish or even in terms of allowing you to stay in the village. you might definitely be casting aside your humanity, but it's in service of becoming a non-human existence that isn't actually all that distant from humanity. considering more yokai-like yokai very much visit and even sometimes live in the human village, i doubt a simple magic user that doesn't seem to age would be more than somewhat unusual around there, albeit you might end up being a bit unpopular with most of the population and, hell, this is all on the assumption that you can even tell someone who has abandoned food from someone who hasn't. the unaging part of a yokai magician would make it obvious eventually, but that's _eventually_ - unless you managed to pull off the transformation as a kid, it could be literal decades before anyone notices that "aging gracefully" stops being a believable excuse. and even then, if you practice magic publicly, you might just be assumed that you're using said magic to maintain your appearance by the magically illiterate. if anything, the abandoning of food is perhaps _the_ part you'd actually have to be careful about, as should people start to notice that you rarely eat human food? well, they might just start suspecting you of subsisting on _human_ food, and suddenly whatever mysterious disappearances had occurred during your stay find themselves gaining a plausible explanation. which will likely lead to the villagers either running you out themselves, or calling on the local miko to investigate ... and then you likely still having to move out even if she doesn't think you're a concern, because rumors like that don't dissipate easily and continuing to live in the village would be living as a pariah also, on the jinyo: while i doubt reimu is fond about the idea of humans becoming yokai, it's worth noting that the guy was only _technically_ not a vengeful spirit. he was still a resentful dude who resurrected into a yokai through the power of a _grudge,_ so even if he avoided becoming a vengeful spirit through "controlling his emotions" ... how long would that last, really? guy was walking a razor edge and became a yokai to _join the ranks of individuals he _*_saw as oppressors,_* dude prob had an aura of slimy malevolence that you could experience with all five senses. it makes the "ultimate sin" of humans becoming yokai feel more like a metaphor tossed at him than a hard rule; he saw humanity as something weak and exploited by the powerful yokai, so he used extreme, dangerous techniques to become powerful and exploit the weak. i dunno 'bout you, but to me? seems like that makes him a pretty significant threat to reimu's wish for peace between humans and yokai hell, if you want to dive deeper into the subtext, the guy did all that and _thought reimu would agree and take his side._ frankly, i wouldn't blame her at all if she was originally planning on just running him out of the village to work out his issues away from the villagers, but then his goblygook was _such_ an insult that she no longer felt like giving him a chance
@@hi-i-am-atan Magicians aren't really yokai I think. Not only do you not eat humans, you also aren't bound by their fears or beliefs. iirc becoming yokai happens if people are ostracised by society, become feared and have rumors spread about them. So it is a much more natural process that doesn't usually happen with the exileds volition. Of course this could also happen to you after becoming a magician, but it could also be avoided. But I think Reimu has way more principled beliefs against giving up your humanity of your own free will I think, and it is my interpretation that this is because she strongly cares about things following their natural order as the keeper of balance in Gensokyo. She also has a terrifying intuition so she'd probably find out if and why you abandon your humanity. If you were to become a magician for the pure passion and love of the craft, that might be something different, but since we're being strategic here... let's say I'm not willing to bet my life on her lenience or ignorance. ig her reaction really comes down to your personality though. But I have to say it is a funny thought trying to explain to her that you had to yeet humanity because you need to bed your favorite Monster Waifu.
I want to add some points: - Learning how spell card system works could be a huge step up in your survival as the rules in perfect memento in strict sense states that the opponent can't kill the human opponent when they lose, and no matter how powerful a youkai is in gensokyo they must adhere to the spell card rule, so you can have some chance even against someone like Yuuka. Just be skillful enough to put up some fight so whoever you fight can have some sense of excitement when they win. - Like in planescape torment, faith, or rather, belief is power in Gensokyo. If you could gaslight the population of Gensokyo you can do a certain thing e.g. fixing things that falls from outside world, you will eventually able to do that thing e.g. fixing things from outside world even if you have zero idea how it works. Be warned to not do this to upset the powers in Gensokyo or a certain shrine maiden will come visit you. - Follow up to above rule: Do not teach science to the human villagers. Belief is power in Gensokyo, and the more humans learn how the world actually works, the risk of them disbelieving things will be greater, as how yamabiko almost extinct when the rumor how sound echoes spreads in the village. If you disturb the primary source of faith for youkai, ALL the youkai will come for you, and the gap hag will kick you back to the outside world at best.
Well, to give you an example, there's Sanae Kochiya, she used to be just human, but due to faith she's a Demigod now, or maybe straight up a God, can't remember.
@@theeaglemaster388yes sanae is a living god(don't know why) she have three god blessing from suwako,kanako and her own blessing(I pretty sure read this on lostword and few other sources) sanae gain her blessing because the amount of faith she gather and it's fused with kanako and suwako faith thus create her own blessing
Did i just watched a 20 minutes tutorial on how to survive in a fictional world...? From a game i barely know anything about? Heck yeah. And it was fun
Average outsider that managed to survive until reaching the village: "Outside is scary and I ain't risking it. No more weeb dreams about dating youkai, nuh-uh. God I was so stupid..." Me *assuming I survived for a few days*: YO THIS PLACE IS JUST LIKE AN EXTRACTION SHOOTER! DAWN TILL DUSK, SNEAKIN AROUND DEMI-GOD ENTITIES, DEFENSELESS AND OUTNUMBERED, BACKPACK FULL OF STOLEN STUFF!
From what I remember, Rinnosuke remarks that Gensokyo uses currency, but it's just whatever drifts in from the outside world. What would drift in is likely yen since it's Japan, but only small amounts people have lost over small amounts of time. You have to be around Gensokyo's barrier to enter, so even if you're a tourist, you should be carrying some yen on you. We can assume these yen notes are more valuable than normal in Japan because not much yen would pass through the barrier. Therefore even a tourist may have a very high amount of cash when entering Gensokyo.
In the last chapter of CoLA (lol) he also says to Sumireko that her current outside money has no worth. Gensokyo is based on bartering and the worth of money is just based on the quantity of notes, not the type or number on them.
@@ScileSc I knew that when I posted this. My assumption is that a tourist would have a decent amount of notes due to spare change from buying tourist stuff. Particularly they would own a decent amount of coins. So a tourist would have a decent amount of notes and coins.
@@oceandashWhen I visited Japan I did not typically have a large quantity of notes, as pretty much any store would break large bills for you. However, I did have to buy a coinpurse to carry coins around. At most I had about 20-30 different coins at once.
Speaking of, if you are a non-Japanese tourist, you can buff the fitness marginally since you would be more than a couch potato, as most tourists have decent stamina.
Probably not the easiest goal to work towards, but pursuing blacksmithing as a profession in Gensokyo sounds kinda cool. You could even find ways to extend your lifespan so you can keep polishing this skill indefinitely - with enough time, you could even become proficient enough to make weapons to just about rival mythical weapons, assuming you put all your focus into that area of crafting. I kinda like this pitch. Someone should work this into some kind of tabletop-esque game and give it a shot, honestly.
its just mage the ascension but in japan. you put your points into matter to bind enchantments into weapons/armor (and to make them too i guess) and then....prime? for pure magical damage, or maybe force to make a blade of pure fire or lightning or whatever. maybe use entropy if you want a weirder power for your enchanted blade. points into life if you want normal immortality, mind if you want to just put your mind into a different shell. or combine matter and life if you want to slowly replace your body with one you create.
Also, you forgot to mention that Makai's miasma improves the power of spells. So if you can survive there, your magic will become far more powerful. So if the hallucinogenic mushroom miasma of the Forest of Magic becomes too easy, you have somewhere else to go.
As a computer science student, the idea that spells can do anything if you know how to construct them makes me wonder if the broader concepts could be likened to coding and if that would give me a sort of small advantage in hypothetically learning magic. Sounds like a conversation I’d like to have with at least one of the local magic users.
Ran, Chen, and other shikigami essentially *are* computers. Yukari had to quite literally program that into Ran and Chen, and Hieda no Akyuu likens shikigami to computers,
I do the same thing, I honestly do that with any sort of magic system I come across. It's even better if the magic works through runes because then it's just programming, minus the computer.
@@jvts8916 My thoughts on this are, given what I know about them I could probably see them without going mad(because not everyone who sees them goes mad) but I couldn't take em in a fight. Likely wouldn't have any option other then to get out of dodge and warn others given the sheer danger of that situation.
I have a theory re: language fluency in Gensokyo: Considering its origins as a sanctuary for youkai, it's evident that not all youkai that live there are Japanese in origin or background. If they're not allowed easy access to resources in the Human Village (or even with each other), they don't have an easy means of learning Japanese either -- extended lifespan or not. Yukari would've likely accounted for this. She could easily do away with language barriers, as a measure of promoting diversity among supernatural beings. Also, common sense doesn't apply in Gensokyo. That alone might allow for linguistic coherence. :P
If you don't know what you're doing, NOPE. I don't think it's a good place to live in at all. Just stay in the human village. Yeah, the creatures we encounter in the games appear cute, but in reality, they're most likely man-eating yokai and you should just stay away from them. Just look at the malicious face Touhou 8's stage 2 boss had. Only people misguided by weird, creepy fandom art/stuff would try to encounter people like Remilia, an actual vampire
@@troljynx9953reimu doesn't allow you to become a yokai but if you become a ghost or a phantom reimu will bring you to komachi since she's a ferryman who guide souls for judgement she doesn't allow ghost and phantoms roam in the living world
I've already come to terms with the fact that I wouldn't last 5 seconds in Gensokyo, but I'm still willing to die trying. It's not much different that people going to Australia to start life anew.
What Ive learned: Have friends and dont break the law too much so yukari doesnt teleport me into dinner zone. Heres a funny thought. I think your more likely to die in Gensokyo than in the Len'En projects Mugenri. However, I feel like the inhabitants of Mugenri are far more likely to beat you up in a fight and rob you.
Yeah surviving here is much easier than in Gensokyo, as fending for yourself is much more accessible (just commission Haiji) and there are more """"helpful"""" individuals that know English, and much more amicable youkai (debatable) but god bless you if you try to climb up the ladder: raising your Magic/Fighting and Money stats are WAY important than raising your knowledge level (as your average Mugenrian as dumb as you are, if not below that). And the only safe option is the human village of Mugenri, or Devangara if you're a law abiding citizen since you wouldn't want to get an audience with diabetes kid; though Youkai Shrine maybe a safe option depending on how looking forward they are for residents. I think the main rule is to be able to stand for yourself in the winner-take-all world and not get the attention of the wrong crowd (especially Suzumi/Tsurubami: the former will kill you, while the other will make you wish you were dead)
Plus, gotta add that flight is seemingly less common in mugenri, to the point where Jun is surprised to see a flying human. Granted people might just walk because it makes them much less likely to be shot at, but it's worth considering that flight isn't the first thing you learn, when it comes to magic.
Then, theres Project Moons Backstreets, notably described in Library of Ruina. Organ harvesting? Yep. Cannibalism? Yep. If you dont live in a wing, good luck.
This is a great video! Normally a lot of the responses I see to the question "Could you survive in Gensokyo?" are quite pessimistic, so to see a more realistic approach is amazing. Personally, an idea I thought of for any quick money-making strategies would be selling off any technology specifically to the kappa or the Moriya Shrine (probably the Moriya Shrine if I'm aiming to do it as fast as possible due to the aerial tramway and how easy getting to the shrine would be) as they'd probably want the resources and be able to use them better than I'd be able to use them.
@@GensouChronicle Can you make a video about *"Ayanokoji transported to Gensokyo will he survive"* topic. It's honestly interesting crossover. Ayanokoji is very known in Smart Characters community. Watch the CotE in Anime, and read CotE LN.
@@davidarvingumazon5024 Won't he be a menace with enough time? That highschooler is practically a super human. After learning magic or whatever he deems the most efficient to survive in Gensokyu, he can either go up or settle down unless someone forces his hand. Anyway, I'd be interested in your idea. It's a fun thought execise with absurdity thrown into the mix. Kind of like how a teacher would feel towards a gifted student.
step 1: arrive at gensokyo, step 2: die because of the sheer amount of youkai in there, step 3: reincarnate as some kind of angry shoe, step 4: live in gensokyo as the spirit of a angry shoe that didn't get enough walking around done in gensokyo whose previous owner got eaten by youkai, step 5: eat humans that come to gensokyo
How to do it: Use Touhou 18 beta and abuse the shit out of the infinite cards glitch after being strong enough to defeat Mike Then become the most absurdly strong person in the whole of Gensokyo after getting like 1000 cards of each character Obliterate everyone
Somehow you can estimate Gensokyo safety by using Backrooms survival difficulty. I think the class of Gensokyo would be... Lambda Class: -Unsafe and Unsecure -Constant Human Hostility -Presence of Hostile, Sentient Entities.
I always wanted to make a DnD campaign in Gensokyo but didn't know how to approach it. Now, I'm tempted to make it a survival affair starring regular joes as PCs. Thank you for the inspiration!
I would like to do a ttrpg campaign as well, but I think DnD is horrible for survival campaigns, I think you should look into systems especific for that (although most of them are really setting specific, like forbidden lands)
@@xaropevic7918 Seconding this, D&D is not well suited to a setting like Gensokyo. I would suggest one of the fanmade Touhou RPGs out there, like Mystic Youkai of Neofantasia.
Touhou Yomoyama News news article 9924 from September of this year announced the release of "Gensokyo Narratography," (幻想ナラトグラフ) a Touhou TTRPG sold by Kadokawa that has, at bare minimum, been played by ZUN It's in Japanese, of course, so that's all the information I can offer, but I hope that it's at least both semi-official and good enough to use as reference/inspiration
It's hard to believe that it's been more than a year since you started your channel. It's even more impressive that you continue to read and respond to almost every comment on your videos. I wish for the continuous growth and success of your channel. I don't comment on videos often, so I don't know how to conclude properly.Uh, good day.
The Lunar Capital might not be entirely out of the question... if one somehow manages to get a hold of the Ultramarine Orb Elixir to rid themselves of unwanted impurities (ignoring the potential side effects that consuming it could incur). Even without that, there are a few instances of humans staying at the capital for a while (Reimu for roughly a month; the fisherman Uranoshimako for several years...), so the Lunarians might not be entirely closed to the idea under the right circumstances. Matter of fact it, could even be a saving grace in the worst-case scenario where one gets stranded in Gensokyo *at night* and during a Full Moon, though it'd take a bit (a lot) of luck for them to get transported to the Lunar surface via the Moon's reflection on bodies of water. Still, even the slight possibility that this could turn a hopeless run into a major success is pretty interesting I think. Being spirited away into Gensokyo is rare enough on its own so there's no harm in being hopeful; everything is based on probabilities, after all. Besides, the worst that could happen on the Moon is being sent back to Earth since people up there dislike needless killing, making it a much safer place than most other locations in hindsight. Let's be honest, between the Watatsukis' inability to kill an old fisherman and Sagume's unlikely savior of the firework festival in the Grimoire of Usami, I'm willing to bet most Lunarians (excluding Chang'e) are a bunch of softies who couldn't cope with the Earth's survival of the fittest nonsense and went on to build their perfect home in the Pure Land while still influencing the Earth's History from a safe distance, and maybe even aiding in times of dire need as Amatsukami. I'd much rather stumble into a silent yet sober Sagume than a drunken, irritated Reimu on a bad day because unlike the former, the latter doesn't particularly mind needless killing. Labor, food, currency, resources, and even time would cease to be an issue given how advanced their civilization is, so it'd definitely be worth a shot. One major drawback is that learning their language would likely impossible, which is a shame considering the invaluable knowledge that must lie within their books and scriptures. Uranoshimako's journey to the Moon led to him becoming a Kami, so the possibilities truly are limitless in the end. Plus I'm really curious about the criticisms Lunarians have of our flawed human society. Their games of Shogi might be a lot of fun, too.
I remember how we used to discuss and fight over these things 10 years ago, wars were fought concerning interpretations of paragraphs of lore, it was a time of blood. But watching this video was kinda fun, because it surely is a better presented and lighthearted version of those old debates. I feel one thing that must be emphasized is that, to survive and - perhaps more important than mere surviving - wanting to survive in Gensokyo is to learn to think like a person from a traditional society. Charles Taylor wrote a 900 page book about the difference between traditional and secular societies and, in my opinion, 97% of the people who survived the first week would be begging to return to the modern society, missing wifi, air conditioned and refrigerators (not gonna lie, I'd totally be one of them). If you want to become part of the 3% that actually wants to stay there or has a binding clause and can't leave, you'll have to change your entire mindset (also, as a personal note, I think I said in a previous video, but learning academic mythology made me appreciate Touhou so much more, because it makes us aware of these differences) - even Sumireko doesn't STAY there, only visiting when she's feeling like (and it's unclear if it's her or her doppelganger youkai). Also one thing that I feel it should be said is that no one in Gensokyo should be taken in face value. Even Akyuu's Gensokyo Chronicle has some things that count as exagerations or understatements. This is why learning the mindset is even more important.
100% agree on that last part. Learning Touhou lore reminds me a lot of reading primary sources for historical events. Like, you can't just read that shit & take everything at face value. You have to use a lot of your own analytical skills to find the reality within the fiction and separate them. Doing that requires knowledge & understanding of the culture that primary source was written in, as well as understanding who the person that wrote it is & knowing why they wrote it.
@@stephaniejohnson5361 You're in that life right now though too. In a world with magic it might as well be considered science. We have science in this world and you already can do all sorts of crazy interesting things with them.
I like the idea of magic working sort of like the software end of a computer. Like each spell being a program in a sense. If you diverge your work into understanding the low-level “ASL” of magic and work up from there, you can create your entirely own category of magic, and being the person who understands it the most you can do basically anything with it.
@@braxbro6674 it also leads to the effect of spells that have the same output but are much easier and cheaper to summon. it also results in "ASL"-written spells and high-end spells. the ASL spells would be much more tedious to create but will also be the most efficient and will be able to be the most powerful. i will definately toy with this idea if i do an isekai fanfic
Youkai are harmed by spiritual attacks, so if you can manage a strong enough prayer, you could theoretically give yourself a better fighting chance. Also, I feel like Eientei would be a pretty good place to find yourself, too. I'd doubt that anybody there eats people, and Eirin would be able to learn your english faster than you could learn Japanese. Then she'd probably let you stay as an extra hand or have Reisen take you to the village. The only concern if you stayed would be Kaguya's requests and avoiding eye contact with Reisen (which is easy for touhou fans).
@@Admiral_Jezza realistically speaking… Using the logic of Gensokyo… I meannnn I never see that phone run out of battery in the doujins. Who said that could happen?
I remember playing an RPGMaker game years ago where you control an outsider in Gensoukyo. You could recruit characters into your party and I think there was a romance mechanic in there. I;d love to play another RPG like that if there were more.
Why would you bring me there with no prior knowledge of Gensokyo? That just means I could never be with Koishi because I wouldn't be able to see or perceive her not knowing her. The only choice is to grind and try to become a human pet in the Palace of the Earth Spirits and hoping someday she tries to play with me putting ketchup and sawdust into my meals
If Tanjiro somehow got spirited away into Gensokyo how well would he do? He retains his previous abilities as well as the ability to learn new ones R1: No nezuko R2: With Nezuko R3: No nezuko and he spirits away at the bad locations R4: Round 3 but with nezuko
@@HyperVaniloI don't think he has any good ways to deal with flight and ranged attacks so if the youkai attacking him realised he was dangerous up close I think he doesn't really have any way of winning, Nezuko or not. Otherwise he's fine pretty much the moment he sets foot into the human village. He'd probably continue his old life. Also Demon Slayer mid.
If I found myself spirited away, I’d probably do my best to make a living in the human village for a while, learning as much as I can about Gensokyo and magic, and I’d probably make my goal to be a sennin, pursuing the Taoist arts from wherever I possibly can get knowledge from. One of the main reasons I want to be a hermit is for the long life-span. I do not wish to become immortal. I am content with the idea that I will die one day. However, I would like to extend my life for as long as possible, not for the sake of power or to be the smartest sentient thing in the world (I assume I can only use so much magic and religious practices to embolden my mind before I start going crazy from the hundreds of years worth of memories) but I would love the opportunity to experience seeing the world change over the course of a few centuries, providing guidance to both people and youkai so that they may live better lives. I would think that the path of ascetic training would be hard and arduous, but I think the end result would be a soul-healing experienced that’d give me a clear, serene mind. Finding peace with myself and who I am as well as imparting peace into other people is something I strive for, and something I am very much not perfect at (far from it). I don’t want to do anything to change the way how Gensokyo works, so I plan to at the end of the day keep a low profile, exploring everything that Gensokyo has to offer in terms of sights, sounds, and wisdom. So uh, yeah, although giant laser fights and harem power fantasies have their appeal, if you asked me what I’d really want realistically, I’d take the slow ascetic life. I’d feel like that’d be the best use of my time in Gensokyo.
Then there is me, thinking up how I can learn magic as fast as possible so I can terrorize the Touhou's for fun. What? You thought I was gonna go the harem route?
I think this is epic. Personally I'd go for magic over taoist arts, since presumably I could learn those arts as a magician. But pursuing self-enrichment and attempting to better the lives of everyone around you is definitely the best lifestyle to pursue. I wonder if it would be possible to change the perception of man-eater youkai so that they no longer require human consumption to survive? Would Yukari even allow it?
@@josephraulcabralesaragon9151 Realistically, I wouldn't challenge anyone til I get to the point I can hold my own against at least Marisa in a fight. THEN a Terrorize Youkai that absolutely deserves it.
First thing I would think in Gensokyo is "I can finally learn magic in other to transform into a rip-off Power Ranger/Kamen Rider" and then I'd do anything in my power to find books about summoning armor and learning to have literal explosive kicks
If I gain enough proficiency to live relatively on my own in Gensokyo’s environment I could see myself residing in the bamboo forest, seems like my kind of place. (Totally not me partly just wanting to hang and chat with Mokou)
Same here. I would try and lay low in the human village for as long as possible until I had enough funds to commission the Kappa to build me a cozy home in the forest to live alone. Then, I could be well secluded, and nobody could easily bother me while I experiment with magic alone. Provided the isolation mixed with constant magical experimentation doesn't drive me crazy...
I feel like i could set up a house near a river for easy access for fish and fresh water the calming area seems like my kinda vibe if drinking green tea
@@muazadam983 Good choices and good views, although I do think there is a river that runs through a good portion of Youkai Mountain, so as long as it isn't that one you should be fine
What if instead of building/buying a house I'd move into an abandoned one? Like the abandoned monastery on Yokai Mountain, who the tengu massacred the residence of. I'm sure there are other uninhabited buildings scattered around Gensokyo made by unwise humans, but I'll be different because I'm better. One issue I see with those is that'll constantly be accosted by tsukumogami and the like, but hey, it's free real-estate. Another option would be the old tree house of the Fairies of Light, but the chances of not only stumbling upon it but also noticing it's a house are quite astronomical. Though thinking of that, fairies are quite good at building dwellings; Cirno, Larva, and the three fairies all have fairly cozy homes. So maybe I'd be possible to -trick/scam- convince some fairies to make me a home, I'm sure their demands would be much more reasonable (Like some broken coloured glass or something).
An abandoned home would work, yeah. Fairy dwellings I believe are said to be unnoticeable to everyone except fairies, much less enterable. I'd need to double check on that.
@@GensouChronicle I think they are unnoticeable, but in the last chapter of Visionary Fairies in Shrine Reimu and Marisa go inside the house of the three fairies.
@@LittleLamphead Okay, neat! I thought I was forgetting something. Maybe they need to be shown the way in first? Maybe befriending fairies might be beneficial after all.
An interesting concept is what happens if, after you thrive in Gensokyo, you want to visit the outside world again. It is stupidly difficult but if you've become an excellent magician or something of similar level and set things up in a way that will not make the local humans and yokai aware that you went outside, the sages will most likely allow it. BUUT with new knowledge the outside world becomes possibly one of the most lethal places imaginable for you due to a simple reason: Beyond the yokai, fey and overall beings of fantasy unfortunate enough to not be in a wonderland, powerful beings also frequent there temporarily (like Yukari does) So going back to the outside world exposes you to all shorts of menaces from multiple cultures. From Djinn that have reached the state of a Marid, to "primordial" devils like chorts or biedas to the beings that mustn't be named from America By Touhou's logic, they are out there, granted, only temporarily before they retreat back to their own realms, like the sages do. But now you know they lurk there. And since you know, they'll know you know. The outside world is a shifty place that at some point of awareness changes from "boring but safe" to "The place most of the extra scary beings operate in". The only way you will avoid trouble is if you get Yukari or Okina (or maybe Eiki) to explicitly protect you, but good luck doing that.
Interesting, let's think about it. What viable option outside magic that this could do? Where do you put it and all the interference along the way wether inside or of outside gensokyo fascinating
Yuuka is known to be mostly absent in Gensokyo, and my headcanon is that she mostly resides in the outside world since she does travel the world and know a LOT of history regarding the happenings that transpire outside Gensokyo's borders. From wars to tragedies, she's always there watching the flowers bloom (flowers are also used as nicknames for Artillery in Russia, and artillery is known as the god of war)
Well, I guess then one of the worst places to live after getting out would be any of the South American countries, since a good chunk of it's population still believe in many urban legends from there, and many of those beings are dangerous af, specially considering how some urban legends are straight up about the Devil in disguise.
Honestly, considering making it to the Human Village is the best-case scenario, befriending and potentially working for Kosuzu part time at Suzunaan would be optimal for someone who could easily be overwhelmed by the sheer amount of change occurring in your life so quickly (and let's face it, you probably will given the circumstances.) It would not only net you an income, but Kosuzu would be your go-to translator, making learning about Gensokyo a bit more accessible. Plus, working in a book rental store would be a safe, quiet enough environment for someone to settle in comfortably (assuming you can get passed the low but potential risk of encountering demon books.) That all aside, I just want to befriend Alice, chill and have tea parties with her. : )
Imagine this being turned into a rpg roleplay game where the difficulty is basically the early game of stalker SOC and the complete hopelessness of pathologic, also the random brutality of fear and hunger
I don't think it's that easy to get into the Forest of Magic because of the Miasma, but again with some training that would surely be possible. Merry Xmas
Damn dude, this is quality content. Honestly, Touhou content creation needed someone like you! I am a huge fan of how informed this video was! Gensokyo lore and customs are super interesting and fun so I'm always surprised tons of people aren't eager to jump in and learn!
Very fascinating concept! I really liked how thorough you were with everything. I was just thinking about what I myself would probably do in that situation, given my background in medicine, and one route I feel you could have explored is inquiring with the mysterious medicine saleswoman (Reisen) who frequents the village about an internship. With some prior scientific knowledge, there might be a chance you could land a gig at the Eientei clinic -- at lower levels, you'd probably just be doing grunt work. But at higher levels you might get to do patient interviews and help make medicines (under Eirin's supervision). .......And importantly, this puts you in close proximity to Kaguya.......
I say personally to go to the SDM early - I speak Spanish, a Romance language, so it's significantly easier for me to learn Romanian than Japanese. Not to say I don't work on eventually learning Japanese, but I would have a leg up linguistically at the SDM. Also, Rinnosuke definitely speaks English, or at least has working knowledge of it. He has a constant flow of abandoned stuff from *modern day* Japan, and that would include a lot of English.
You could also just hope you meet suika at hakurei shrine and live like a bum with her on Reimu's lawn. Getting drunk with Suika every day until she challenges and likely kills you. xD
Vid's basically my rough thoughts on what it'd take to survive in Gensokyo, particularly how magic is likely your best bet if you don't want to simply be a villager. Entertaining vid as usual!
If I got settled in Gensokyo, I would learn magic and Japanese as early as possible. I would also save any available funds I have collected from work in the village (Unless Yukari is willing to turn my money into yen, which I doubt she would agree to) and get a place in the Forest of Magic. The next part of my goal is to become a Magician and study magic in peace. Heck, I'll even make my own spells and perhaps my own grimoire. The only bad thing I can see from this is that Marisa would steal my work, but I would make copies of my notes, so it wouldn't be a big deal. As for incidents, I would not do much because I am not the type of person who would be actively looking for a fight.
Instructions were unclear; I am living inside of Yukari's train. Surprisingly comfy, just remember to leave if there are signs she's about to do a spell ca--
This does make me kinda wish there was more actual content about adapting outsiders, it would be neat to see how those able to live adapt, and how any natural residents would feel about seeing these outsiders growing Though on a completely unrelated thought, I know it will never happen but god I wish there were characters or even a touhou game around Jewish folklore. Touhou has done neat stuff with other religious practices, and it wouldn’t have to be too western given the history of having to move. But really my main thought is that one reoccurring idea of Reform Judaism is looking eastward. Sure that’s in reference to Jerusalem, but there’s also how some medieval thoughts came to the belief that the garden of Eden was in the far east. So there could be something spiritually wholesome in allowing characters that reference Jewish folklore to live in the eastern Wonderland of gensokyou.
We have a couple of games that heavily feature Sumireko at least, which is the closest we have to "modern day outsider tries to survive in Gensokyo". Honestly the fact she managed to survive as long as she has despite royally peeving off multiple high powered characters is rather impressive.
I would also like to see more religions appearing in Touhou too! There have been already some few mentions to our cultures before, but honestly, I think ZUN seems to lack some knowledge about them, some things mentioned before looks to be out of place, misinterpreted or unfinished
Now someone needs to make an rpg with this exact premise, surviving in a fantasy world with 0 knowledge of anything, not even language, could make such a good story I feel like this could also be a roguelike game, where you can get different endings based on your actions etc, this has so much potential
Gotta be honest. I saw the thumbnail in the corner of my eye, and I misinterpreted the head labeled "you" as Kagerou's belly and thought she was pregnant. To be fair, Kagerou is definitely one of the best girls, and starting a family with her would be worth the risk of dealing with Gensokyo otherwise
I’d definitely be stuck as a rice field wagie. Even with my knowledge from the outside world I wouldn’t be able to do much because knowing about technology and being able to build it are two completely different things.
As someone who wrote a slice of life story for Touhou, this is pretty spot on. Very well made. One thing I would add; if you somehow had a special skill or trade, one unique to Gensokyo, your quality of life would improve a lot. As stated, knowledge from the Outside World is invaluable.
I can see two "best" possibilities. Either get hired as a temp butler at SDM and spend your days chilling and flirting with fairy maids. Or total opposite get to Myorenji and shamefully beg Byakuren to take you as her disciple , spending next decades learning Dharmic arts. There is no fucking way a common scrub could learn magic in the way a genius like Marisa did, magic is like the most talent dependent of the 3 Sage/Hermit/Magician paths. Also yes I would enter with A in speech and B in reading so it all comes down to finding out these options exist.
Well, for anyone that makes it to the village, be it from the Shrine, or otherwise, there is one approach that stands out as the best possible option early on, and one that I'm surprised you didn't even mention: Eientei. First of all, the residents there are human-friendly, settling on the "human side" after Imperishable Night. Reisen makes regular visits to the village, and might be persuaded to bring you along when going back, eliminating the dangers of traversing the Bamboo Forest, and while Reisen _might_ know English, Eirin *definitely* does (she'd be more proficient and knowledgable than any human, in any subject, really.) Not to mention... Eirin could, no doubt, make some medicine to address the language barrier, should she have incentive to, for those who'd need it. In short, heading to Eientei would have a lot of potential payoff, simply because Eirin is literally the single biggest source of information available, and she's not hostile towards normal humans in the slightest. Hell, Toyohime gained her power just by actually understanding one of Eirin's lectures. Although... I guess that requires some degree of meta knowledge, assuming you don't stumble onto Eientei's existence by sheer luck, and then somehow realize that it's more than some weird pharmacy out in the woods.
Survival in the beginning seems to be the most difficult part. After that I think I have faith in my ability to learn magic, if Marisa & Co. are willing to be helpful that is lol. Otherwise probably start some kind of business that walk on the edge of threatening the social order and getting disappeared by Yukari, then make enough money to get access to magic. At some point probably fake a death, disappear for some 50 years to become a youkai while not getting nuked by Reimu
I already knew I was going to like this video but somehow you made it even more fun than I imagined!! you amaze me every time with your amazing editing and vast touhou knowledge... thank you for the effort you put into your vids. you're genuinely the best touhou youtuber out there :) also you're evil for the mima bit at 11:38 /j
Do to the laws of the Dragon Emperor killing eachother is forviden and anybody caught breaking that rule is punished by being exile, something that is pretty much a death sentence for most of the youkai in gensokyo as they will dissapear eventualy.
I got... Pleasantly surprised by the use of Dance with Wolves at the end there, great song choice. Aside from that, amazing video here. I always pondered about something like this, since this always seemed like an interesting topic to delve into/ I just unfortunately didn't know enough about Touhou lore to comfortably do so. The way you tackled it here was engaging, and I know I sound monkey oo-oo-aa-aa video game brain right now, but it was a genuinely good way of showcasing the information! (big wall of text if you press read more) There is another way for progression that seems interesting, and that's using technology to substitute for magic or any mystic art that you may learn. Imagine this, after ending up in Muenzuka, you manage to claw your way to Rinnosuke's shop with his help, where the abundance of technology ignites a spark in you. Moments before Rinnosuke takes you to the Hakurei Shrine, you take note of the location for the future. After doing the entire song and dance of wanting to stay in the Human Village, you manage to convince Reimu, somehow, and you stay there. As you do work and improve like in the video, you instead spend the off time you have tinkering with whatever materials you may have rather than learning magic, creating primitive inventions. You may still end up going to Kosuzu to see if they have any books about technology available. Anyways, you manage to sell these inventions of yours, making a quick buck while improving your own tech making skills. Once you get fluent enough in Japanese, scrounge up enough money, and plan your expedition, you make a quick trek to Rinnosuke's shop, and maybe barter some things there, finally getting yourself some tech. After getting your first piece of modern technology, you simply stare at it in delight. Quickly getting to work, you use all the experience you've obtained from the limited supply of books and your own inventions, and you manage to create a copy of it from whatever scrap material you have. Wonderful, but it just struck you... how will you power it? Thinking on the things you've learnt, perhaps you could use one of the many forms of generating electricity and apply it here. Regardless, you manage to do so one way or another, and now you've achieved a huge milestone in your technology-filled career. From here on, your life will continue as usual. Learning, working, saving, hopping over to Rinnosuke's shop every now and then to see gadgets you can reverse engineer, and the like. Eventually you'll manage to help improve the quality of life at the village with your inventions. You're a well-known name there now, and you manage to get yourself a good house and a lot of cash by selling your inventions as well as using these inventions in your work. Maybe you'll attract the attention of some kappas, which will be another important aspect for your journey. Thanks to your time in the village, you know what kappas are capable of. Packing loads of cucumbers, you somehow meet a kappa by chance. Maybe during certain festivities, or by making the dangerous trek to the Genbu Ravine. Either way, you meet with a kappa, and you manage to bond with them over your love of technology... and maybe a few cucumbers. Once you do so, I myself don't know if this would happen, but maybe you could learn how to create kappa-technology, while providing your own knowledge of modern-world technology to the kappa. Perhaps the kappa will introduce you to other kappa, or perhaps they'll just happily collaborate with you so long as you provide them information and cucumbers. Regardless, with the combination of kappa and modern technology, as well as a load of cash from your work in the Village, you would finally have the ability to create technology that may enable you to fly, all without magic. From here, you'd mostly follow the same path as the video, instead replacing magic with your superior technology. Maybe you'd share this technology with the village, or maybe you'll keep it to yourself. Who knows? Though, perhaps modernizing the human village so quickly might not exactly be in your best interests, one way or another... either way, the future is uncertain from here. Certain characters like Marisa could take an interest in you, and you'd find that your path of progression would differ greatly as a result. I might be completely wrong about this and the kappa would actually just take your buttball and leave you to die, but writing all this has been really fun, and it only goes to show how much fun this topic is to ponder about! Sorry that I just made a wall of text here though, like I said, I just really like this concept...
Really cool ideas! Yeah, a couple people have mentioned something along the lines of using inventions/tech to supplement their survival. And yeah, most of my videos end with a Hatsunetsumiko's song!
@@GensouChronicle Yeah i'll try to recreate the sphere system from mage the ascension/awakening instead (since someone mentioned that touhou magic is kind of like code i think it's possible ngl)
Outside technology my wife and I have which is valuable to the village: - Modern techniques for vertical farming. - Incorporations of old permaculture with new farming methods. - Modern advances in mushroom cultivation. (We intend to retire as farmers) - Being lesbians. - Being actual career Linguists. (Neither of us know Japanese very well) - we got mandarin, French, Norwegian, Russian, English, and Spanish going for us - as well as being really good at picking up and teaching languages. - We're both great cooks and bakers. - her specialty is macarons - mine is sourdough - and various misc skills that I wouldn't really count as "important" outside advancements Downside: We are of comparably poor health. Though this mostly is trouble with our bones, weak immune system, and general tiredness. We appear youthful, externally, however.
I did a scenario exercise (roleplay) with an incident in gensokyo, I have a character who's a Nam vet and he's basically a handyman. Not really serious about the language barrier. But doing these scenarios helped me develop the character. Gensokyo however has some leg room for interpretation. Pretty cool video.
"man eating youkai" proceeds to show a friendly werewolf, a corpse stealer cat (she wont eat you youre going in the reactor), the singular most harmless Touhou ever, and a fox thats more likely to literally stab you than eat you. Mmm nothing wrong here.
Damn I just realized...when Rinnosuke mentioned taking things that "fell from the outside world" for Korindou he wasn't talking random items getting caught in the border fluctuations, he was talking about corpses to loot after the Youkai got finished eating the people. At best he may just be blissfully ignorant, but I find it hard to not notice bloodshed on various items and torn clothing in Muensuka This video continues to warp my perception of Gensokyo and I kinda dig it
You know I saw the Title of this video and was like "Well..duh? Chill in the Human Village and you should be gucci no?" which is why didn't bother watching at first but I am glad I decided to in the end because this is was actually a really fun watch and super interesting! Great Job!
Another thing to mention with the animal realm is the primate spirit garden. Usually this would be an extremely bad move as that's just the hunting ground for all the beast spirits there, but there is a chance that Keiki would be there and would probably help you out.... by turning you into a clay idol but that does come with some benefits. That being an extended lifespan, immunity to spiritual attacks and the fact that you wouldn't need to eat, sleep, or drink anymore. That plus the fact that Keiki probably knows some English (if her little "Oh! Create!" line is anything to go by) and so communication will be solved as well. Bad news is, you'll probably end up being added to her Haniwa military, and you're strength will most likely depend on how loyal you are to her (if Mayumi is anything to go off of) so you are somewhat restricted in your power with this option.
So CoLA is one of the few official works I haven't consumed yet, but the points in this video about Muenzuka and how Rinnosuke gets his wares there. . . Is he basically looting corpses for his merchandise? Or at least a portion of them?
It is said that not only does humans spirit into gensokyo (either yukari or whatever reason like sumireko/Maribel (ability)/Renko(as a dream), but items also spirit into gensokyo, the thing about the border of gensokyo is anything that people no longer fears/forgets/defied is sent to gensokyo, whether its gods/youkais/objects, pretty sure they are sent to border where rinnosuke finds them This is based on my understanding
I'd already heard from random sources over time that Muenzuka had a lot of junk from the outside world, and Rinnosuke went there to stock up. I also knew stuff could just come through the barrier from time to time, so without knowing about humans likely getting eaten in the area fairly often, I just left it at 'stuff ends up there' up until now. Just a little extra context to make Rinnosuke seem like just a little more of a weirdo. I really need to read CoLA.@@GensouChronicle
I have two new scenarios for this... (Edit: Rephrased the first one.) Can you survive Gensokyo as a bloodthirsty maniac, killing any human you see, including inside the village, no matter if it was man, woman, or child? Or Can you survive creating a cult in Gensokyo? (Sorry if that 1st one sounded too terrifying.)
1: pretty much everything and everyone there is somewhat of a sociopath, you'll fit right in! 2: As long as it doesn't challenge the major religons and shrines of Gensokyo, go ahead!
Honestly, if you somehow did create another village, your gonna be in for the long haul. Reimoo isn't exactly merciful if the first idea goes through. On the other hand, it would be a interesting incident. The Human Village Civil War.
Change "Gensokyo" with "real life" and this would be a guide every touhou fan should consider watching.
True. They'd still end up becoming wizards.
@@GensouChronicle This world does need more actual wizards...
Poundering my orb right now
@@GensouChronicle wizard as in the master of the arcane or wizard as in no bitches?
@@WomanSlayer69420yes
no way this isn't secretly a just a pitch for an adventure rpg
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Well, there are two TRPGs already
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@@akiradkcn By all means, do elaborate
My man lowkey just made a "how to get your act together" guide by disguissing it as a touhou video 😂.
"disguissing" maybe you should do the part where you acquire literacy
@@ibish9513 And maybe you should get off your high horse. Might make you less terrible.
@@metaphobic sorry
Ahh so GYAT stands for Get Your Act Together
@@SpikeSolosYou Is that why all the young'uns have been shouting gyat gyat at me?
I believe in myself. I WILL make it to the village. I WILL learn magic. I WILL low diff Rumia. I WILL colonize the Moon
The most an average human can do against Rumia is run, she's not likely to pursuit you for long, other way to evade her is by throwing a flashlight at her, or cabbages.
You got this.
@@MedsieLovror just poke her eyes or try to pretend to be a youkai or smth or just distract her she's dumb after all
RO RO FIGHT DA POWAH
And this America
Simply eat the youkai and turn the tables.
Adapt. Overcome. Improvise.
I will do the same 😎
brb gonna eat the dark
-Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga, circa 2004
what kind of eat???
Dominate
"Nah, I'd win", I back long jump enough to bug myself out of bounds and speedrun leave gensokyo
Mario 64 Speedruns (first reply)
「ああ…こんにちは。道に迷ってしまったのですか？」
The shrine maiden dressed in red and white was working at her shrine, obviously in the middle of something you just interrupted. She startles forward, stands straight up and looks at you dead in the eyes.
「さあ、出口を教えてあげる。ついて来い…」
"Nah, I'd win."
「えっ？ ごめんなさい、私は英語が話せません――」
She is cut off at the end of her sentence by the sudden explosive force generated from your legs as you begin your backwards long jump. She starts again, but realizes that you probably would be fine on your own as you vibrate on the ground intensely, building up speed and skipping like a rock across the dirt and sand path.
「あなたは食用人間ですか？」
Along the way out, you find a little girl hovering in a strange pose who asks a peculiar question, but you ignore it as you are speedrunning your bug-ridden exit. You speed past her as she menacingly faces towards you, shouting strange sounds with her child mouth. Eventually, the vibrations of your body reach the speed of sound, producing a burst of air that people from even the farthest reaches of Gensokyo could hear. The strange girl backs away, astonished. All of the residents of this fantasy world now know your location and IP address, but it's not like they can go to your house. None of this matters to you. All you have to do is keep backwards long jumping until you break out, and before you know it, you're out.
The air is cold. The chill of the non-existent wind rushes down your skin like millions of hairs that feel like they're there but aren't. You look around you, but all that meets your eyes is nothing. Your sight is silent, and your hearing is dark. You are confused. You are a bit afraid. You went too far in your backwards long jump and popped out of bounds! But congratulations! You completed the challenge. You did your speedrun. You escaped Gensokyo. And now you're stuck here.
@@qwertyuiop8795 Wow such a dedicated and nice narration for a joke comment, thank you!.
Well if I'm in the void uh....I wish to respawn in a safe place?, I got to have some special reward for a speedrun win right?
@@MrSasukeSusanoo Nope! You get to stay out of bounds for all eternity! Careful you don't turn into a youkai though... Reimu's racism knows no bounds.
@@qwertyuiop8795 well I'll dominate the void and come back somehow, I know it
Just dodge the bullets, thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
Based.
Gg ez
hitboxes and graze in touhou be like
Or, hear me out,
*bring your own bullets.*
Love the fact this guide just understands the implementations of language barriers.
Despite reimu's famous actions regarding a certain author, becoming a yokai on accident would likely result in her just escorting you out of the village or chasing you out, becoming a yokai because you felt out of place or because you never felt human to begin with would probably just inspire pity in her.
Wdym famous actions what did she di
@@Mariaaomo basically an author in the village conspired to have themselves turn into a vengeful spirit in a bid for immortality, basically setting it up so someone would find an unpublished manuscript and publish it under their own name, fulfilling the requirements to come back as a vengeful spirit without the whole driven by vengeance thing.
It disgusted reimu so much that she slaughtered the original author despite the fact he was a peaceful youkai
It depends. I agree that if you get alienated from the village to the point where they start fearing you or spread rumors around you, she might spare you because it's a somewhat natural process and doesn't necessarily imply intent.
Whats way more dangerous is the scenario of casting the abandon food spell. Since this is freely throwing away your humanity, you will probably make enemies with the human village and inspire special hatred in Reimu. (As far as I understand she draws the line at humans *wanting* to become Youkai, which she considers deeply unnatural)
Having Reimu be determined to exterminate you might be one of the more dangerous scenarios.
You only need to achieve some limited danmaku abilities to fend off weaker apparitions and you can learn to handle mid-tier and stronger beings, but if she's serious there's almost no way you're going to beat Reimu at any point below danmaku mastery, and if she's like that you will die if she beats you.
You can only survive Reimu if her hearts not in it, or if you've evaded her long enough that she maybe starts mellowing out on you.
@@marzipancutter8144 i feel like magicians aren't a concern like that, actually. after all, the core prerequisite that we know of is a spell of _abandon_ food, which means ... well, not needing to eat. which means you become a yokai that does not eat _humans,_ removing a lot of the risk in letting you do as you wish or even in terms of allowing you to stay in the village. you might definitely be casting aside your humanity, but it's in service of becoming a non-human existence that isn't actually all that distant from humanity. considering more yokai-like yokai very much visit and even sometimes live in the human village, i doubt a simple magic user that doesn't seem to age would be more than somewhat unusual around there, albeit you might end up being a bit unpopular with most of the population
and, hell, this is all on the assumption that you can even tell someone who has abandoned food from someone who hasn't. the unaging part of a yokai magician would make it obvious eventually, but that's _eventually_ - unless you managed to pull off the transformation as a kid, it could be literal decades before anyone notices that "aging gracefully" stops being a believable excuse. and even then, if you practice magic publicly, you might just be assumed that you're using said magic to maintain your appearance by the magically illiterate. if anything, the abandoning of food is perhaps _the_ part you'd actually have to be careful about, as should people start to notice that you rarely eat human food? well, they might just start suspecting you of subsisting on _human_ food, and suddenly whatever mysterious disappearances had occurred during your stay find themselves gaining a plausible explanation. which will likely lead to the villagers either running you out themselves, or calling on the local miko to investigate ... and then you likely still having to move out even if she doesn't think you're a concern, because rumors like that don't dissipate easily and continuing to live in the village would be living as a pariah
also, on the jinyo: while i doubt reimu is fond about the idea of humans becoming yokai, it's worth noting that the guy was only _technically_ not a vengeful spirit. he was still a resentful dude who resurrected into a yokai through the power of a _grudge,_ so even if he avoided becoming a vengeful spirit through "controlling his emotions" ... how long would that last, really? guy was walking a razor edge and became a yokai to _join the ranks of individuals he _*_saw as oppressors,_* dude prob had an aura of slimy malevolence that you could experience with all five senses. it makes the "ultimate sin" of humans becoming yokai feel more like a metaphor tossed at him than a hard rule; he saw humanity as something weak and exploited by the powerful yokai, so he used extreme, dangerous techniques to become powerful and exploit the weak. i dunno 'bout you, but to me? seems like that makes him a pretty significant threat to reimu's wish for peace between humans and yokai
hell, if you want to dive deeper into the subtext, the guy did all that and _thought reimu would agree and take his side._ frankly, i wouldn't blame her at all if she was originally planning on just running him out of the village to work out his issues away from the villagers, but then his goblygook was _such_ an insult that she no longer felt like giving him a chance
@@hi-i-am-atan Magicians aren't really yokai I think. Not only do you not eat humans, you also aren't bound by their fears or beliefs.
iirc becoming yokai happens if people are ostracised by society, become feared and have rumors spread about them. So it is a much more natural process that doesn't usually happen with the exileds volition.
Of course this could also happen to you after becoming a magician, but it could also be avoided.
But I think Reimu has way more principled beliefs against giving up your humanity of your own free will I think, and it is my interpretation that this is because she strongly cares about things following their natural order as the keeper of balance in Gensokyo.
She also has a terrifying intuition so she'd probably find out if and why you abandon your humanity. If you were to become a magician for the pure passion and love of the craft, that might be something different, but since we're being strategic here... let's say I'm not willing to bet my life on her lenience or ignorance. ig her reaction really comes down to your personality though.
But I have to say it is a funny thought trying to explain to her that you had to yeet humanity because you need to bed your favorite Monster Waifu.
I want to add some points:
- Learning how spell card system works could be a huge step up in your survival as the rules in perfect memento in strict sense states that the opponent can't kill the human opponent when they lose, and no matter how powerful a youkai is in gensokyo they must adhere to the spell card rule, so you can have some chance even against someone like Yuuka. Just be skillful enough to put up some fight so whoever you fight can have some sense of excitement when they win.
- Like in planescape torment, faith, or rather, belief is power in Gensokyo. If you could gaslight the population of Gensokyo you can do a certain thing e.g. fixing things that falls from outside world, you will eventually able to do that thing e.g. fixing things from outside world even if you have zero idea how it works. Be warned to not do this to upset the powers in Gensokyo or a certain shrine maiden will come visit you.
- Follow up to above rule: Do not teach science to the human villagers. Belief is power in Gensokyo, and the more humans learn how the world actually works, the risk of them disbelieving things will be greater, as how yamabiko almost extinct when the rumor how sound echoes spreads in the village. If you disturb the primary source of faith for youkai, ALL the youkai will come for you, and the gap hag will kick you back to the outside world at best.
"Do not teach science to the human villagers." Welp that is a ton of the viewers dead right there.
yuuka wont bother you unless you damage her flower garden
Wait really? I can just gaslight them into thinking I have chronos style precog? Or something? Hell yeah
Well, to give you an example, there's Sanae Kochiya, she used to be just human, but due to faith she's a Demigod now, or maybe straight up a God, can't remember.
@@theeaglemaster388yes sanae is a living god(don't know why) she have three god blessing from suwako,kanako and her own blessing(I pretty sure read this on lostword and few other sources) sanae gain her blessing because the amount of faith she gather and it's fused with kanako and suwako faith thus create her own blessing
Did i just watched a 20 minutes tutorial on how to survive in a fictional world...? From a game i barely know anything about?
Heck yeah. And it was fun
All theory, not fact. Decent premise for an RPG, but other than, it's all made up.
@@dfgd2402 ☝️🤓
Welcome to the world of Gensokyo~
Everything here is interesting.
@@dfgd2402 Stating the obvious...
@@MocawMocks Hm!? You got a problem against people stating facts?
Average outsider that managed to survive until reaching the village: "Outside is scary and I ain't risking it. No more weeb dreams about dating youkai, nuh-uh. God I was so stupid..."
Me *assuming I survived for a few days*: YO THIS PLACE IS JUST LIKE AN EXTRACTION SHOOTER! DAWN TILL DUSK, SNEAKIN AROUND DEMI-GOD ENTITIES, DEFENSELESS AND OUTNUMBERED, BACKPACK FULL OF STOLEN STUFF!
From what I remember, Rinnosuke remarks that Gensokyo uses currency, but it's just whatever drifts in from the outside world. What would drift in is likely yen since it's Japan, but only small amounts people have lost over small amounts of time.
You have to be around Gensokyo's barrier to enter, so even if you're a tourist, you should be carrying some yen on you.
We can assume these yen notes are more valuable than normal in Japan because not much yen would pass through the barrier.
Therefore even a tourist may have a very high amount of cash when entering Gensokyo.
In the last chapter of CoLA (lol) he also says to Sumireko that her current outside money has no worth. Gensokyo is based on bartering and the worth of money is just based on the quantity of notes, not the type or number on them.
@@ScileSc I knew that when I posted this. My assumption is that a tourist would have a decent amount of notes due to spare change from buying tourist stuff. Particularly they would own a decent amount of coins. So a tourist would have a decent amount of notes and coins.
@@oceandashWhen I visited Japan I did not typically have a large quantity of notes, as pretty much any store would break large bills for you. However, I did have to buy a coinpurse to carry coins around. At most I had about 20-30 different coins at once.
Speaking of, if you are a non-Japanese tourist, you can buff the fitness marginally since you would be more than a couch potato, as most tourists have decent stamina.
watch it be Ryo instead of yen. Everyone going to scream.
Probably not the easiest goal to work towards, but pursuing blacksmithing as a profession in Gensokyo sounds kinda cool. You could even find ways to extend your lifespan so you can keep polishing this skill indefinitely - with enough time, you could even become proficient enough to make weapons to just about rival mythical weapons, assuming you put all your focus into that area of crafting.
I kinda like this pitch. Someone should work this into some kind of tabletop-esque game and give it a shot, honestly.
You could learn from Kogasa.
@@GensouChronicle Very true, and it probably wouldn't be that hard to get her to do so.
its just mage the ascension but in japan. you put your points into matter to bind enchantments into weapons/armor (and to make them too i guess) and then....prime? for pure magical damage, or maybe force to make a blade of pure fire or lightning or whatever. maybe use entropy if you want a weirder power for your enchanted blade. points into life if you want normal immortality, mind if you want to just put your mind into a different shell. or combine matter and life if you want to slowly replace your body with one you create.
I'm either aiming for being a carpenter or a master mage one of them is way easier than the other
Reimu allegedly killed a man for trying to become a youkai, so trying to extend your life span may lead to a premature death.
Also, you forgot to mention that Makai's miasma improves the power of spells. So if you can survive there, your magic will become far more powerful. So if the hallucinogenic mushroom miasma of the Forest of Magic becomes too easy, you have somewhere else to go.
Wait psychedelic mushrooms can improve your magic?
Yo Mr white, I feel the arcane energies flowing through me
@@mfwiloseintouhoubossfights9305 we need to cook
As a computer science student, the idea that spells can do anything if you know how to construct them makes me wonder if the broader concepts could be likened to coding and if that would give me a sort of small advantage in hypothetically learning magic.
Sounds like a conversation I’d like to have with at least one of the local magic users.
Bro’s bout to be the Turing Complete Magician
Given the setting was made by a programmer, I consider the odds very high.
As an IT Student, the best way to summarize a program is: "It just works because I added some codes and stuff. It's like magic, but computer."
Ran, Chen, and other shikigami essentially *are* computers. Yukari had to quite literally program that into Ran and Chen, and Hieda no Akyuu likens shikigami to computers,
I do the same thing, I honestly do that with any sort of magic system I come across. It's even better if the magic works through runes because then it's just programming, minus the computer.
One should also be careful to not accidentally read the Necronomicon, which is apparently at Suzunaan.
Kosuzu has an... Interesting collection.
Ffs Kosuzu.
WHEN WILL SHE LEARN!?
In that case, you probably have to worry about anime girl versions of mythos creatures even if you don't read that book.
@@Wolf-oc6tx or worse, the *unaltered* mythos creatures, given how different the youkai trapped in youma books are.
@@jvts8916 My thoughts on this are, given what I know about them I could probably see them without going mad(because not everyone who sees them goes mad) but I couldn't take em in a fight. Likely wouldn't have any option other then to get out of dodge and warn others given the sheer danger of that situation.
I have a theory re: language fluency in Gensokyo:
Considering its origins as a sanctuary for youkai, it's evident that not all youkai that live there are Japanese in origin or background. If they're not allowed easy access to resources in the Human Village (or even with each other), they don't have an easy means of learning Japanese either -- extended lifespan or not.
Yukari would've likely accounted for this. She could easily do away with language barriers, as a measure of promoting diversity among supernatural beings.
Also, common sense doesn't apply in Gensokyo. That alone might allow for linguistic coherence. :P
Fascinating arguments. However, I will keep daydreaming about living with a dangerous youkai that lives in a very dangerous place.
If you don't know what you're doing, NOPE. I don't think it's a good place to live in at all. Just stay in the human village. Yeah, the creatures we encounter in the games appear cute, but in reality, they're most likely man-eating yokai and you should just stay away from them. Just look at the malicious face Touhou 8's stage 2 boss had.
Only people misguided by weird, creepy fandom art/stuff would try to encounter people like Remilia, an actual vampire
@@LavaCreeperPeople
Nah screw human villagers, I'm going ghost-
@@troljynx9953My man needs that ghussy.
@@troljynx9953reimu doesn't allow you to become a yokai but if you become a ghost or a phantom reimu will bring you to komachi since she's a ferryman who guide souls for judgement she doesn't allow ghost and phantoms roam in the living world
itsliterally stated woh eats human and who doesnt in fact majority of named characters dont@@LavaCreeperPeople
I've already come to terms with the fact that I wouldn't last 5 seconds in Gensokyo, but I'm still willing to die trying. It's not much different that people going to Australia to start life anew.
lmao.
Australia is the real-life Gensokyo
@@Felkk. So true !
I've read enough doujin that it makes the description of yokai "eating" people sound like an euphemism.
entirely depends on the yōkai in question
The thumbnail does not help
This video not only connected me to Gensokyo, but also gave me the opportunity to learn English through touhou as a Japanese person. Thank you.
Cool!
Asking for orange slices after being teleported to an alien world is hilarious
Orange slices just hit sometimes, you feel?
Imagine being depressed then randomly fucking teleporting to Gensokyo to see Satori Komeiji running up to your ass to have a feast 💀💀💀💀💀
What Ive learned: Have friends and dont break the law too much so yukari doesnt teleport me into dinner zone.
Heres a funny thought. I think your more likely to die in Gensokyo than in the Len'En projects Mugenri.
However, I feel like the inhabitants of Mugenri are far more likely to beat you up in a fight and rob you.
True, and there's also fewer options of learning magic in Mugenri
But more opportunities for obtaining technology
Yeah surviving here is much easier than in Gensokyo, as fending for yourself is much more accessible (just commission Haiji) and there are more """"helpful"""" individuals that know English, and much more amicable youkai (debatable) but god bless you if you try to climb up the ladder: raising your Magic/Fighting and Money stats are WAY important than raising your knowledge level (as your average Mugenrian as dumb as you are, if not below that). And the only safe option is the human village of Mugenri, or Devangara if you're a law abiding citizen since you wouldn't want to get an audience with diabetes kid; though Youkai Shrine maybe a safe option depending on how looking forward they are for residents. I think the main rule is to be able to stand for yourself in the winner-take-all world and not get the attention of the wrong crowd (especially Suzumi/Tsurubami: the former will kill you, while the other will make you wish you were dead)
Plus, gotta add that flight is seemingly less common in mugenri, to the point where Jun is surprised to see a flying human.
Granted people might just walk because it makes them much less likely to be shot at, but it's worth considering that flight isn't the first thing you learn, when it comes to magic.
Then, theres Project Moons Backstreets, notably described in Library of Ruina. Organ harvesting? Yep. Cannibalism? Yep. If you dont live in a wing, good luck.
Plot twist: You find a box full of Spell Bombs the first day you enter Gensokyo.
I mean, you ever wonder where reimu get's those?
short answer: no
longer answer: only if you get lucky or happen to be capable of beating youkai in a fight
This is a great video! Normally a lot of the responses I see to the question "Could you survive in Gensokyo?" are quite pessimistic, so to see a more realistic approach is amazing. Personally, an idea I thought of for any quick money-making strategies would be selling off any technology specifically to the kappa or the Moriya Shrine (probably the Moriya Shrine if I'm aiming to do it as fast as possible due to the aerial tramway and how easy getting to the shrine would be) as they'd probably want the resources and be able to use them better than I'd be able to use them.
Not a bad idea.
@@GensouChronicle Can you make a video about *"Ayanokoji transported to Gensokyo will he survive"* topic. It's honestly interesting crossover. Ayanokoji is very known in Smart Characters community. Watch the CotE in Anime, and read CotE LN.
@@davidarvingumazon5024
Won't he be a menace with enough time? That highschooler is practically a super human. After learning magic or whatever he deems the most efficient to survive in Gensokyu, he can either go up or settle down unless someone forces his hand.
Anyway, I'd be interested in your idea. It's a fun thought execise with absurdity thrown into the mix. Kind of like how a teacher would feel towards a gifted student.
step 1: arrive at gensokyo, step 2: die because of the sheer amount of youkai in there, step 3: reincarnate as some kind of angry shoe, step 4: live in gensokyo as the spirit of a angry shoe that didn't get enough walking around done in gensokyo whose previous owner got eaten by youkai, step 5: eat humans that come to gensokyo
the true ending
Most realistic outcome, ngl
How to do it:
Use Touhou 18 beta and abuse the shit out of the infinite cards glitch after being strong enough to defeat Mike
Then become the most absurdly strong person in the whole of Gensokyo after getting like 1000 cards of each character
Obliterate everyone
EPIC
Speedrun it like a champ 👍
instructions unclear: get sent to backroom by accident
@@lokyinng5155 that's a you problem
wow, everyone is just pretending to be postal dude, thinking that a gun would be effective or thinking they can get a harem lol
Would you like to sign my petition?
I regret nothing
Grandfather of Jimmy Joe Billy Bob cousin of Johnny Jim Billy Jimbobob
tbh guns would suck in Gensokyo because of the spell card rules.
my goals are beyond your understanding
Me with no powers whatsoever: "Nah, I'd win."
"Nah i'd win."
- Moments away from trying to attack sakuya
@@paigelux4819 'Nah, I'd win.' seconds before being eaten alive by Rumia
"Nah i'd win."
- Me as my face is brutally vaporized by a master spark@@Mr.Yeast2
"Nah, I'd win"
- me before being turned into Fertilizer by Yuuka @@paigelux4819
"Nah, I'd win"
-Me as my fists are mere milimeters away from connecting with Yuugi's abs
Somehow you can estimate Gensokyo safety by using Backrooms survival difficulty. I think the class of Gensokyo would be...
Lambda Class:
-Unsafe and Unsecure
-Constant Human Hostility
-Presence of Hostile, Sentient Entities.
I always wanted to make a DnD campaign in Gensokyo but didn't know how to approach it. Now, I'm tempted to make it a survival affair starring regular joes as PCs. Thank you for the inspiration!
I would like to do a ttrpg campaign as well, but I think DnD is horrible for survival campaigns, I think you should look into systems especific for that (although most of them are really setting specific, like forbidden lands)
@@xaropevic7918 Seconding this, D&D is not well suited to a setting like Gensokyo. I would suggest one of the fanmade Touhou RPGs out there, like Mystic Youkai of Neofantasia.
Touhou Yomoyama News news article 9924 from September of this year announced the release of "Gensokyo Narratography," (幻想ナラトグラフ) a Touhou TTRPG sold by Kadokawa that has, at bare minimum, been played by ZUN
It's in Japanese, of course, so that's all the information I can offer, but I hope that it's at least both semi-official and good enough to use as reference/inspiration
@@PneumaAsh Thanks
i recommend you all play "the outsider who loved gensokyo" if you intrested in this theme
It's hard to believe that it's been more than a year since you started your channel. It's even more impressive that you continue to read and respond to almost every comment on your videos. I wish for the continuous growth and success of your channel.
I don't comment on videos often, so I don't know how to conclude properly.Uh, good day.
Thanks! I do my best to respond. This last video was difficult, though, since I'm approaching 2k comments.
The Lunar Capital might not be entirely out of the question... if one somehow manages to get a hold of the Ultramarine Orb Elixir to rid themselves of unwanted impurities (ignoring the potential side effects that consuming it could incur).
Even without that, there are a few instances of humans staying at the capital for a while (Reimu for roughly a month; the fisherman Uranoshimako for several years...), so the Lunarians might not be entirely closed to the idea under the right circumstances.
Matter of fact it, could even be a saving grace in the worst-case scenario where one gets stranded in Gensokyo *at night* and during a Full Moon, though it'd take a bit (a lot) of luck for them to get transported to the Lunar surface via the Moon's reflection on bodies of water.
Still, even the slight possibility that this could turn a hopeless run into a major success is pretty interesting I think. Being spirited away into Gensokyo is rare enough on its own so there's no harm in being hopeful; everything is based on probabilities, after all.
Besides, the worst that could happen on the Moon is being sent back to Earth since people up there dislike needless killing, making it a much safer place than most other locations in hindsight.
Let's be honest, between the Watatsukis' inability to kill an old fisherman and Sagume's unlikely savior of the firework festival in the Grimoire of Usami, I'm willing to bet most Lunarians (excluding Chang'e) are a bunch of softies who couldn't cope with the Earth's survival of the fittest nonsense and went on to build their perfect home in the Pure Land while still influencing the Earth's History from a safe distance, and maybe even aiding in times of dire need as Amatsukami. I'd much rather stumble into a silent yet sober Sagume than a drunken, irritated Reimu on a bad day because unlike the former, the latter doesn't particularly mind needless killing.
Labor, food, currency, resources, and even time would cease to be an issue given how advanced their civilization is, so it'd definitely be worth a shot.
One major drawback is that learning their language would likely impossible, which is a shame considering the invaluable knowledge that must lie within their books and scriptures.
Uranoshimako's journey to the Moon led to him becoming a Kami, so the possibilities truly are limitless in the end. Plus I'm really curious about the criticisms Lunarians have of our flawed human society. Their games of Shogi might be a lot of fun, too.
I remember how we used to discuss and fight over these things 10 years ago, wars were fought concerning interpretations of paragraphs of lore, it was a time of blood.
But watching this video was kinda fun, because it surely is a better presented and lighthearted version of those old debates. I feel one thing that must be emphasized is that, to survive and - perhaps more important than mere surviving - wanting to survive in Gensokyo is to learn to think like a person from a traditional society. Charles Taylor wrote a 900 page book about the difference between traditional and secular societies and, in my opinion, 97% of the people who survived the first week would be begging to return to the modern society, missing wifi, air conditioned and refrigerators (not gonna lie, I'd totally be one of them). If you want to become part of the 3% that actually wants to stay there or has a binding clause and can't leave, you'll have to change your entire mindset (also, as a personal note, I think I said in a previous video, but learning academic mythology made me appreciate Touhou so much more, because it makes us aware of these differences) - even Sumireko doesn't STAY there, only visiting when she's feeling like (and it's unclear if it's her or her doppelganger youkai).
Also one thing that I feel it should be said is that no one in Gensokyo should be taken in face value. Even Akyuu's Gensokyo Chronicle has some things that count as exagerations or understatements. This is why learning the mindset is even more important.
100% agree on that last part. Learning Touhou lore reminds me a lot of reading primary sources for historical events.
Like, you can't just read that shit & take everything at face value. You have to use a lot of your own analytical skills to find the reality within the fiction and separate them. Doing that requires knowledge & understanding of the culture that primary source was written in, as well as understanding who the person that wrote it is & knowing why they wrote it.
you know whats sad? the fact that this video actually made life look interesting
i feel like any life where you can learn magic will be interesting
@@stephaniejohnson5361 People when the harry potter books came out
Having the simple ability to fly alone makes life more interesting.
@@stephaniejohnson5361 You're in that life right now though too.
In a world with magic it might as well be considered science.
We have science in this world and you already can do all sorts of crazy interesting things with them.
@@marzipancutter8144 I don’t see people shooting fireballs from their hands and flying
I like the idea of magic working sort of like the software end of a computer.
Like each spell being a program in a sense.
If you diverge your work into understanding the low-level “ASL” of magic and work up from there, you can create your entirely own category of magic, and being the person who understands it the most you can do basically anything with it.
Well, shikigami are treated almost 1 to 1 as computers in Touhou. Magic is treated as science. So that wouldn't be too inaccurate.
@@GensouChronicleso Magic Theory is Waifu computer sciences?
That alone might actually make programmers have a huge leg up, since the basic logic might transfer.
@@braxbro6674 it also leads to the effect of spells that have the same output but are much easier and cheaper to summon. it also results in "ASL"-written spells and high-end spells. the ASL spells would be much more tedious to create but will also be the most efficient and will be able to be the most powerful. i will definately toy with this idea if i do an isekai fanfic
Youkai are harmed by spiritual attacks, so if you can manage a strong enough prayer, you could theoretically give yourself a better fighting chance.
Also, I feel like Eientei would be a pretty good place to find yourself, too. I'd doubt that anybody there eats people, and Eirin would be able to learn your english faster than you could learn Japanese. Then she'd probably let you stay as an extra hand or have Reisen take you to the village. The only concern if you stayed would be Kaguya's requests and avoiding eye contact with Reisen (which is easy for touhou fans).
Tch, there goes my plan of left, right, goodnight
Even if you gone mad from looking at Reisen it's not like Eirin being a genius wouldn't make a contingency for that.
I've read lots of touhou doujins, I'll survive, all I need is some hypnosis app and I'm all set
EXACTLY!
Gets spirited to Gensokyo when your battery is at 10 percent
@@Admiral_Jezza realistically speaking… Using the logic of Gensokyo… I meannnn I never see that phone run out of battery in the doujins. Who said that could happen?
Just get a generator from the kappa
I remember playing an RPGMaker game years ago where you control an outsider in Gensoukyo. You could recruit characters into your party and I think there was a romance mechanic in there. I;d love to play another RPG like that if there were more.
Was it the game the outsider that loved gensokyo?
Imagine this is an lost media shit 😭
Why would you bring me there with no prior knowledge of Gensokyo? That just means I could never be with Koishi because I wouldn't be able to see or perceive her not knowing her. The only choice is to grind and try to become a human pet in the Palace of the Earth Spirits and hoping someday she tries to play with me putting ketchup and sawdust into my meals
You can get to her if you believe!
Just go meet Satori. There's a 0 percent chance she won't traumadump on you and end up telling you about Koishi, which allows you to see her.
@@PhantomGato-v- don't know if I could survive her reading my mind and what I think about her sister
@@KurageHimari ... Good luck. You'll need it.
lol
If Tanjiro somehow got spirited away into Gensokyo how well would he do?
He retains his previous abilities as well as the ability to learn new ones
R1: No nezuko
R2: With Nezuko
R3: No nezuko and he spirits away at the bad locations
R4: Round 3 but with nezuko
Absolutely well, his best friends would obviously be Youmu
@@HyperVaniloI don't think he has any good ways to deal with flight and ranged attacks so if the youkai attacking him realised he was dangerous up close I think he doesn't really have any way of winning, Nezuko or not.
Otherwise he's fine pretty much the moment he sets foot into the human village. He'd probably continue his old life.
Also Demon Slayer mid.
If I found myself spirited away, I’d probably do my best to make a living in the human village for a while, learning as much as I can about Gensokyo and magic, and I’d probably make my goal to be a sennin, pursuing the Taoist arts from wherever I possibly can get knowledge from. One of the main reasons I want to be a hermit is for the long life-span. I do not wish to become immortal. I am content with the idea that I will die one day. However, I would like to extend my life for as long as possible, not for the sake of power or to be the smartest sentient thing in the world (I assume I can only use so much magic and religious practices to embolden my mind before I start going crazy from the hundreds of years worth of memories) but I would love the opportunity to experience seeing the world change over the course of a few centuries, providing guidance to both people and youkai so that they may live better lives. I would think that the path of ascetic training would be hard and arduous, but I think the end result would be a soul-healing experienced that’d give me a clear, serene mind. Finding peace with myself and who I am as well as imparting peace into other people is something I strive for, and something I am very much not perfect at (far from it). I don’t want to do anything to change the way how Gensokyo works, so I plan to at the end of the day keep a low profile, exploring everything that Gensokyo has to offer in terms of sights, sounds, and wisdom.
So uh, yeah, although giant laser fights and harem power fantasies have their appeal, if you asked me what I’d really want realistically, I’d take the slow ascetic life. I’d feel like that’d be the best use of my time in Gensokyo.
Slow, easygoing life is what Gensokyo is about, so I think that's great.
Then there is me, thinking up how I can learn magic as fast as possible so I can terrorize the Touhou's for fun.
What? You thought I was gonna go the harem route?
I think this is epic. Personally I'd go for magic over taoist arts, since presumably I could learn those arts as a magician. But pursuing self-enrichment and attempting to better the lives of everyone around you is definitely the best lifestyle to pursue.
I wonder if it would be possible to change the perception of man-eater youkai so that they no longer require human consumption to survive? Would Yukari even allow it?
@@eagleye2893 I like the energy, but realistically they'd whip your ass so hard.
@@josephraulcabralesaragon9151 Realistically, I wouldn't challenge anyone til I get to the point I can hold my own against at least Marisa in a fight.
THEN a Terrorize Youkai that absolutely deserves it.
First thing I would think in Gensokyo is "I can finally learn magic in other to transform into a rip-off Power Ranger/Kamen Rider" and then I'd do anything in my power to find books about summoning armor and learning to have literal explosive kicks
THAT WOULD BE WICKED!
If I gain enough proficiency to live relatively on my own in Gensokyo’s environment I could see myself residing in the bamboo forest, seems like my kind of place. (Totally not me partly just wanting to hang and chat with Mokou)
Same here. I would try and lay low in the human village for as long as possible until I had enough funds to commission the Kappa to build me a cozy home in the forest to live alone.
Then, I could be well secluded, and nobody could easily bother me while I experiment with magic alone. Provided the isolation mixed with constant magical experimentation doesn't drive me crazy...
Taaa ke?
I feel like i could set up a house near a river for easy access for fish and fresh water the calming area seems like my kinda vibe if drinking green tea
@@muazadam983 Good choices and good views, although I do think there is a river that runs through a good portion of Youkai Mountain, so as long as it isn't that one you should be fine
What if instead of building/buying a house I'd move into an abandoned one? Like the abandoned monastery on Yokai Mountain, who the tengu massacred the residence of. I'm sure there are other uninhabited buildings scattered around Gensokyo made by unwise humans, but I'll be different because I'm better. One issue I see with those is that'll constantly be accosted by tsukumogami and the like, but hey, it's free real-estate.
Another option would be the old tree house of the Fairies of Light, but the chances of not only stumbling upon it but also noticing it's a house are quite astronomical. Though thinking of that, fairies are quite good at building dwellings; Cirno, Larva, and the three fairies all have fairly cozy homes. So maybe I'd be possible to -trick/scam- convince some fairies to make me a home, I'm sure their demands would be much more reasonable (Like some broken coloured glass or something).
An abandoned home would work, yeah. Fairy dwellings I believe are said to be unnoticeable to everyone except fairies, much less enterable. I'd need to double check on that.
@@GensouChronicle I think they are unnoticeable, but in the last chapter of Visionary Fairies in Shrine Reimu and Marisa go inside the house of the three fairies.
@@LittleLamphead Okay, neat! I thought I was forgetting something. Maybe they need to be shown the way in first? Maybe befriending fairies might be beneficial after all.
"(...) made by unwise humans, but I'll be different because I'm better."
Really pulling a "Nah, I'd Win" Huh?
An interesting concept is what happens if, after you thrive in Gensokyo, you want to visit the outside world again.
It is stupidly difficult but if you've become an excellent magician or something of similar level and set things up in a way that will not make the local humans and yokai aware that you went outside, the sages will most likely allow it.
BUUT with new knowledge the outside world becomes possibly one of the most lethal places imaginable for you due to a simple reason:
Beyond the yokai, fey and overall beings of fantasy unfortunate enough to not be in a wonderland, powerful beings also frequent there temporarily (like Yukari does)
So going back to the outside world exposes you to all shorts of menaces from multiple cultures.
From Djinn that have reached the state of a Marid, to "primordial" devils like chorts or biedas to the beings that mustn't be named from America
By Touhou's logic, they are out there, granted, only temporarily before they retreat back to their own realms, like the sages do. But now you know they lurk there. And since you know, they'll know you know.
The outside world is a shifty place that at some point of awareness changes from "boring but safe" to "The place most of the extra scary beings operate in".
The only way you will avoid trouble is if you get Yukari or Okina (or maybe Eiki) to explicitly protect you, but good luck doing that.
Interesting, let's think about it. What viable option outside magic that this could do? Where do you put it and all the interference along the way wether inside or of outside gensokyo fascinating
Yuuka is known to be mostly absent in Gensokyo, and my headcanon is that she mostly resides in the outside world since she does travel the world and know a LOT of history regarding the happenings that transpire outside Gensokyo's borders. From wars to tragedies, she's always there watching the flowers bloom (flowers are also used as nicknames for Artillery in Russia, and artillery is known as the god of war)
Well, I guess then one of the worst places to live after getting out would be any of the South American countries, since a good chunk of it's population still believe in many urban legends from there, and many of those beings are dangerous af, specially considering how some urban legends are straight up about the Devil in disguise.
It doesnt matter uncle ben
God will protect me
5:26 "So you can determine where you'd start." this line has such a blase delivery, but it's actually extremely dark when you think about it LMAO
Honestly, considering making it to the Human Village is the best-case scenario, befriending and potentially working for Kosuzu part time at Suzunaan would be optimal for someone who could easily be overwhelmed by the sheer amount of change occurring in your life so quickly (and let's face it, you probably will given the circumstances.)
It would not only net you an income, but Kosuzu would be your go-to translator, making learning about Gensokyo a bit more accessible. Plus, working in a book rental store would be a safe, quiet enough environment for someone to settle in comfortably (assuming you can get passed the low but potential risk of encountering demon books.)
That all aside, I just want to befriend Alice, chill and have tea parties with her. : )
Imagine this being turned into a rpg roleplay game where the difficulty is basically the early game of stalker SOC and the complete hopelessness of pathologic, also the random brutality of fear and hunger
No Internet
I would not survive
Death by eating noodles without youtube, damn
Sumireko said the same thing and she looks fine
yes i can relate
no internet = man im dead (death by sanity drainage)
killing = life
@@MattFullington-o8qLMAOO
I don't think it's that easy to get into the Forest of Magic because of the Miasma, but again with some training that would surely be possible. Merry Xmas
Just hold your breath for a few hours!
@@GensouChronicle Can't you simply cover your face with a t-shirt? You know like how people do in a fire to not breath smoke.
Also, you know what happend to Seija the Amanojaku? I miss her.
3:18
-LONELY
-DEPRESSED
-SPITEFUL
-CRIMINAL (you)
Damn dude, this is quality content. Honestly, Touhou content creation needed someone like you! I am a huge fan of how informed this video was! Gensokyo lore and customs are super interesting and fun so I'm always surprised tons of people aren't eager to jump in and learn!
Very fascinating concept! I really liked how thorough you were with everything. I was just thinking about what I myself would probably do in that situation, given my background in medicine, and one route I feel you could have explored is inquiring with the mysterious medicine saleswoman (Reisen) who frequents the village about an internship. With some prior scientific knowledge, there might be a chance you could land a gig at the Eientei clinic -- at lower levels, you'd probably just be doing grunt work. But at higher levels you might get to do patient interviews and help make medicines (under Eirin's supervision).
.......And importantly, this puts you in close proximity to Kaguya.......
I say personally to go to the SDM early - I speak Spanish, a Romance language, so it's significantly easier for me to learn Romanian than Japanese. Not to say I don't work on eventually learning Japanese, but I would have a leg up linguistically at the SDM.
Also, Rinnosuke definitely speaks English, or at least has working knowledge of it. He has a constant flow of abandoned stuff from *modern day* Japan, and that would include a lot of English.
This honesty sound like a great idea for a fan game.
I'd buy it in a heartbeat if anyone make this a game.
So touhou as a survival game
@@polytanksan5761 yeah, where you can beat up all of the man-eating monsters
i recommend you all play "the outsider who loved gensokyo" if you intrested in this theme
@@felix4049 if only there's witches and youkai outsides
it already exists, its called EraTouhou TW
You could also just hope you meet suika at hakurei shrine and live like a bum with her on Reimu's lawn. Getting drunk with Suika every day until she challenges and likely kills you. xD
Unfathomably based
I can't believe this can be applied as a migration guide, I literally just applied this in real life sense of course, amazing
Vid's basically my rough thoughts on what it'd take to survive in Gensokyo, particularly how magic is likely your best bet if you don't want to simply be a villager. Entertaining vid as usual!
If I got settled in Gensokyo, I would learn magic and Japanese as early as possible. I would also save any available funds I have collected from work in the village (Unless Yukari is willing to turn my money into yen, which I doubt she would agree to) and get a place in the Forest of Magic.
The next part of my goal is to become a Magician and study magic in peace. Heck, I'll even make my own spells and perhaps my own grimoire.
The only bad thing I can see from this is that Marisa would steal my work, but I would make copies of my notes, so it wouldn't be a big deal.
As for incidents, I would not do much because I am not the type of person who would be actively looking for a fight.
Instructions were unclear; I am living inside of Yukari's train. Surprisingly comfy, just remember to leave if there are signs she's about to do a spell ca--
*The Tape Ends Here*
Haven't been so invested in a youtube video for years. Amazing execution and a very nice idea, love this vid.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excited for the Gensokyo 100% speedruns at GDQ this year.
Really cool video idea though, you always come up with something interesting :)
I want to go with more creative ideas like this moving forward if I can.
This does make me kinda wish there was more actual content about adapting outsiders, it would be neat to see how those able to live adapt, and how any natural residents would feel about seeing these outsiders growing
Though on a completely unrelated thought, I know it will never happen but god I wish there were characters or even a touhou game around Jewish folklore. Touhou has done neat stuff with other religious practices, and it wouldn’t have to be too western given the history of having to move. But really my main thought is that one reoccurring idea of Reform Judaism is looking eastward. Sure that’s in reference to Jerusalem, but there’s also how some medieval thoughts came to the belief that the garden of Eden was in the far east. So there could be something spiritually wholesome in allowing characters that reference Jewish folklore to live in the eastern Wonderland of gensokyou.
I think Touhou exploring more religions like that would be cool, yeah.
We have a couple of games that heavily feature Sumireko at least, which is the closest we have to "modern day outsider tries to survive in Gensokyo".
Honestly the fact she managed to survive as long as she has despite royally peeving off multiple high powered characters is rather impressive.
I would also like to see more religions appearing in Touhou too!
There have been already some few mentions to our cultures before, but honestly, I think ZUN seems to lack some knowledge about them, some things mentioned before looks to be out of place, misinterpreted or unfinished
Now someone needs to make an rpg with this exact premise, surviving in a fantasy world with 0 knowledge of anything, not even language, could make such a good story
I feel like this could also be a roguelike game, where you can get different endings based on your actions etc, this has so much potential
Gotta be honest. I saw the thumbnail in the corner of my eye, and I misinterpreted the head labeled "you" as Kagerou's belly and thought she was pregnant. To be fair, Kagerou is definitely one of the best girls, and starting a family with her would be worth the risk of dealing with Gensokyo otherwise
I’d definitely be stuck as a rice field wagie. Even with my knowledge from the outside world I wouldn’t be able to do much because knowing about technology and being able to build it are two completely different things.
As someone who wrote a slice of life story for Touhou, this is pretty spot on. Very well made.
One thing I would add; if you somehow had a special skill or trade, one unique to Gensokyo, your quality of life would improve a lot. As stated, knowledge from the Outside World is invaluable.
I can see two "best" possibilities. Either get hired as a temp butler at SDM and spend your days chilling and flirting with fairy maids. Or total opposite get to Myorenji and shamefully beg Byakuren to take you as her disciple , spending next decades learning Dharmic arts. There is no fucking way a common scrub could learn magic in the way a genius like Marisa did, magic is like the most talent dependent of the 3 Sage/Hermit/Magician paths. Also yes I would enter with A in speech and B in reading so it all comes down to finding out these options exist.
Well, for anyone that makes it to the village, be it from the Shrine, or otherwise, there is one approach that stands out as the best possible option early on, and one that I'm surprised you didn't even mention: Eientei.
First of all, the residents there are human-friendly, settling on the "human side" after Imperishable Night.
Reisen makes regular visits to the village, and might be persuaded to bring you along when going back, eliminating the dangers of traversing the Bamboo Forest, and while Reisen _might_ know English, Eirin *definitely* does (she'd be more proficient and knowledgable than any human, in any subject, really.)
Not to mention... Eirin could, no doubt, make some medicine to address the language barrier, should she have incentive to, for those who'd need it.
In short, heading to Eientei would have a lot of potential payoff, simply because Eirin is literally the single biggest source of information available, and she's not hostile towards normal humans in the slightest. Hell, Toyohime gained her power just by actually understanding one of Eirin's lectures.
Although... I guess that requires some degree of meta knowledge, assuming you don't stumble onto Eientei's existence by sheer luck, and then somehow realize that it's more than some weird pharmacy out in the woods.
Survival in the beginning seems to be the most difficult part. After that I think I have faith in my ability to learn magic, if Marisa & Co. are willing to be helpful that is lol. Otherwise probably start some kind of business that walk on the edge of threatening the social order and getting disappeared by Yukari, then make enough money to get access to magic. At some point probably fake a death, disappear for some 50 years to become a youkai while not getting nuked by Reimu
As someone who never played or saw anything touhou relatef, this seems like something absolutely I need
You are not alone
Please do not breathe ever again. But relatable
NOTHING GOIN TO STOP ME GETTING THAT RINNOUSSY🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I already knew I was going to like this video but somehow you made it even more fun than I imagined!! you amaze me every time with your amazing editing and vast touhou knowledge... thank you for the effort you put into your vids. you're genuinely the best touhou youtuber out there :)
also you're evil for the mima bit at 11:38 /j
Lol thanks.
Do to the laws of the Dragon Emperor killing eachother is forviden and anybody caught breaking that rule is punished by being exile, something that is pretty much a death sentence for most of the youkai in gensokyo as they will dissapear eventualy.
watch me start creating early gunpowder, constructing muskets and getting kicked out of gensokyo for shooting a yokai
I got... Pleasantly surprised by the use of Dance with Wolves at the end there, great song choice.
Aside from that, amazing video here. I always pondered about something like this, since this always seemed like an interesting topic to delve into/ I just unfortunately didn't know enough about Touhou lore to comfortably do so. The way you tackled it here was engaging, and I know I sound monkey oo-oo-aa-aa video game brain right now, but it was a genuinely good way of showcasing the information! (big wall of text if you press read more)
There is another way for progression that seems interesting, and that's using technology to substitute for magic or any mystic art that you may learn. Imagine this, after ending up in Muenzuka, you manage to claw your way to Rinnosuke's shop with his help, where the abundance of technology ignites a spark in you. Moments before Rinnosuke takes you to the Hakurei Shrine, you take note of the location for the future. After doing the entire song and dance of wanting to stay in the Human Village, you manage to convince Reimu, somehow, and you stay there.
As you do work and improve like in the video, you instead spend the off time you have tinkering with whatever materials you may have rather than learning magic, creating primitive inventions. You may still end up going to Kosuzu to see if they have any books about technology available.
Anyways, you manage to sell these inventions of yours, making a quick buck while improving your own tech making skills. Once you get fluent enough in Japanese, scrounge up enough money, and plan your expedition, you make a quick trek to Rinnosuke's shop, and maybe barter some things there, finally getting yourself some tech.
After getting your first piece of modern technology, you simply stare at it in delight. Quickly getting to work, you use all the experience you've obtained from the limited supply of books and your own inventions, and you manage to create a copy of it from whatever scrap material you have. Wonderful, but it just struck you... how will you power it?
Thinking on the things you've learnt, perhaps you could use one of the many forms of generating electricity and apply it here. Regardless, you manage to do so one way or another, and now you've achieved a huge milestone in your technology-filled career. From here on, your life will continue as usual. Learning, working, saving, hopping over to Rinnosuke's shop every now and then to see gadgets you can reverse engineer, and the like.
Eventually you'll manage to help improve the quality of life at the village with your inventions. You're a well-known name there now, and you manage to get yourself a good house and a lot of cash by selling your inventions as well as using these inventions in your work. Maybe you'll attract the attention of some kappas, which will be another important aspect for your journey.
Thanks to your time in the village, you know what kappas are capable of. Packing loads of cucumbers, you somehow meet a kappa by chance. Maybe during certain festivities, or by making the dangerous trek to the Genbu Ravine. Either way, you meet with a kappa, and you manage to bond with them over your love of technology... and maybe a few cucumbers.
Once you do so, I myself don't know if this would happen, but maybe you could learn how to create kappa-technology, while providing your own knowledge of modern-world technology to the kappa. Perhaps the kappa will introduce you to other kappa, or perhaps they'll just happily collaborate with you so long as you provide them information and cucumbers.
Regardless, with the combination of kappa and modern technology, as well as a load of cash from your work in the Village, you would finally have the ability to create technology that may enable you to fly, all without magic. From here, you'd mostly follow the same path as the video, instead replacing magic with your superior technology.
Maybe you'd share this technology with the village, or maybe you'll keep it to yourself. Who knows? Though, perhaps modernizing the human village so quickly might not exactly be in your best interests, one way or another... either way, the future is uncertain from here. Certain characters like Marisa could take an interest in you, and you'd find that your path of progression would differ greatly as a result.
I might be completely wrong about this and the kappa would actually just take your buttball and leave you to die, but writing all this has been really fun, and it only goes to show how much fun this topic is to ponder about! Sorry that I just made a wall of text here though, like I said, I just really like this concept...
Really cool ideas! Yeah, a couple people have mentioned something along the lines of using inventions/tech to supplement their survival.
And yeah, most of my videos end with a Hatsunetsumiko's song!
@@GensouChronicleThat's so incredibly based
Technocracy route, instead of firing laser beams you fire plasma balls using hypertech
If I can survive in cold, barren wastelands of northwest Siberia, then Gensokyo would be a walk in the park.
As an outsider to the touhou fandom knowing nothing about touhou makes this video much more endearing, and a question: do guns work on youkai?
They are highly resistant to physical attacks and vulnerable to supernatural ones. So guns wouldn't be very effective.
@@GensouChronicle Yeah i'll try to recreate the sphere system from mage the ascension/awakening instead (since someone mentioned that touhou magic is kind of like code i think it's possible ngl)
Me too
@@GensouChronicle ☝🤓 Magic Bullets
11:23 oh god, why would i want to be in the air in Gensokyo?
That's where yokai can see you from miles away.
Outside technology my wife and I have which is valuable to the village:
- Modern techniques for vertical farming.
- Incorporations of old permaculture with new farming methods.
- Modern advances in mushroom cultivation.
(We intend to retire as farmers)
- Being lesbians.
- Being actual career Linguists.
(Neither of us know Japanese very well)
- we got mandarin, French, Norwegian, Russian, English, and Spanish going for us - as well as being really good at picking up and teaching languages.
- We're both great cooks and bakers.
- her specialty is macarons
- mine is sourdough
- and various misc skills that I wouldn't really count as "important" outside advancements
Downside:
We are of comparably poor health. Though this mostly is trouble with our bones, weak immune system, and general tiredness. We appear youthful, externally, however.
I did a scenario exercise (roleplay) with an incident in gensokyo, I have a character who's a Nam vet and he's basically a handyman. Not really serious about the language barrier. But doing these scenarios helped me develop the character. Gensokyo however has some leg room for interpretation. Pretty cool video.
nah i'd win
That's the spirit.
"man eating youkai" proceeds to show a friendly werewolf, a corpse stealer cat (she wont eat you youre going in the reactor), the singular most harmless Touhou ever, and a fox thats more likely to literally stab you than eat you. Mmm nothing wrong here.
: )
No. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
Akyuu's gensokyo... chronicle.
CHANNEL NAME DROP!!!
Damn I just realized...when Rinnosuke mentioned taking things that "fell from the outside world" for Korindou he wasn't talking random items getting caught in the border fluctuations, he was talking about corpses to loot after the Youkai got finished eating the people. At best he may just be blissfully ignorant, but I find it hard to not notice bloodshed on various items and torn clothing in Muensuka
This video continues to warp my perception of Gensokyo and I kinda dig it
You know I saw the Title of this video and was like "Well..duh? Chill in the Human Village and you should be gucci no?" which is why didn't bother watching at first but I am glad I decided to in the end because this is was actually a really fun watch and super interesting! Great Job!
Thanks!
But where is the watermelon
I too, also like playing eraTW.
I was just thinking this was like eraTW with no timestop and a language stat.
Another thing to mention with the animal realm is the primate spirit garden. Usually this would be an extremely bad move as that's just the hunting ground for all the beast spirits there, but there is a chance that Keiki would be there and would probably help you out.... by turning you into a clay idol but that does come with some benefits. That being an extended lifespan, immunity to spiritual attacks and the fact that you wouldn't need to eat, sleep, or drink anymore. That plus the fact that Keiki probably knows some English (if her little "Oh! Create!" line is anything to go by) and so communication will be solved as well. Bad news is, you'll probably end up being added to her Haniwa military, and you're strength will most likely depend on how loyal you are to her (if Mayumi is anything to go off of) so you are somewhat restricted in your power with this option.
1:24 Everyone knows the Tabasco item becomes important later
It's a secret tool that will help us later.
Now i know how badly I need RPG about being spirited away in Gensokyo
i recommend you play "the outsider who loved gensokyo" if you intrested in this theme
So UA-cam just randomly gave me this and I know nothing of touhou so hey I'm perfectly accurate.
So CoLA is one of the few official works I haven't consumed yet, but the points in this video about Muenzuka and how Rinnosuke gets his wares there. . .
Is he basically looting corpses for his merchandise? Or at least a portion of them?
It is said that not only does humans spirit into gensokyo (either yukari or whatever reason like sumireko/Maribel (ability)/Renko(as a dream), but items also spirit into gensokyo, the thing about the border of gensokyo is anything that people no longer fears/forgets/defied is sent to gensokyo, whether its gods/youkais/objects, pretty sure they are sent to border where rinnosuke finds them
This is based on my understanding
Very possible... As for the rest of it, the barrier isn't super concrete, so a lot of junk is just found sitting around like old computers and such.
I'd already heard from random sources over time that Muenzuka had a lot of junk from the outside world, and Rinnosuke went there to stock up. I also knew stuff could just come through the barrier from time to time, so without knowing about humans likely getting eaten in the area fairly often, I just left it at 'stuff ends up there' up until now. Just a little extra context to make Rinnosuke seem like just a little more of a weirdo.
I really need to read CoLA.@@GensouChronicle
I have two new scenarios for this...
(Edit: Rephrased the first one.)
Can you survive Gensokyo as a bloodthirsty maniac, killing any human you see, including inside the village, no matter if it was man, woman, or child?
Or
Can you survive creating a cult in Gensokyo?
(Sorry if that 1st one sounded too terrifying.)
1: pretty much everything and everyone there is somewhat of a sociopath, you'll fit right in!
2: As long as it doesn't challenge the major religons and shrines of Gensokyo, go ahead!
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One more: If you created a NEW village and had it go to war against the Human Village, how would everyone react?
Honestly, if you somehow did create another village, your gonna be in for the long haul. Reimoo isn't exactly merciful if the first idea goes through.
On the other hand, it would be a interesting incident. The Human Village Civil War.
@@superdude2468 True, but how would everyone react to the supposed Civil War? Surely that would mess up the "Status Quo".
Would I be dead trying to communicate with Cirno😢