It was scary how effective Nagito's plan was. It would've succeeded but he didn't count on the traitor willingly revealing herself as the pure-hearted Chiaki who would gladly give up her life for the sake of her friends
Plus, there was no actual evidence that the Traitor and the Killer were the same person, they just correctly guessed that it would happen due to Nagito’s luck
Also, like Sonia said, even if Chiaki's the traitor it doesn't mean she threw the poison, but it's already set in stone that one of the remaining six was the one who threw it (the 1 in 6 chance in this case reflects that of Nagito's 1 in 6 chance in russian roulette, which is just so good)
Well nagito found out they were the remnants of despair and he wanted hope not despair he knew if they were to stay alive they would get back their memories and start chaos so as an last attempt to stop the incoming despair he though of this plan no matter how gruesome or suffering he has to take
Nagito had to use his luck because he NEEDED it to be a murder. to have a murder, you need a murder weapon and murderer. therefore, Nagito, who left the murder weapon between similar bottles, had to let the others use it to kill him. and i think the only reason Kaito revealed himself is because he was about to die like it or not. Kaito died DURING execution, and considering Monokuma's swift despair inducing executions, Kaito had little to no time to live after his victory. i think he didnt wanted to live knowing he killed 6 people at the literal end of his life.
@@wrigthtalekenavi2066 i think they meant if nagito didnt use his luck to specifically target someone (traitor). because of that and that they realized he had a specific target in mind, they were able to figure it out. if he wanted to kill off most of them, he wouldnt have targeted someone specifically, and then they wouldve actually had to guess, and winning a guessing game against the luckiest student isnt exactly a winning possibility. monokuma even tried to push them to just guess so they woudlnt realize nagito had specific motives, and junky wouldve gotten most of their bodies.
@@worshipersofmagikarp6958 uh. yeah i know? that was part of my point. here in case you forgot how DR2 worked, junko was an AI and she couldnt kill them directly because she couldnt delete the rules that said the teacher role (she was hacked in by izuru and made to be teacher role) couldnt directly interfere with students unless students violated the rules. so she made new rules to try to kill them, like punish (kill) them for breaking school rules. and of course she wanted to kill them to take over their bodies, and blahblahblah junkoland. i wasnt making a point about the solvability of the case, i was adding on to how nagito couldve won against his peers. in terms of solvability, shit was still tough tbh. if they were using normal cameras, it probably wouldve been unsolvable because the grenades were placed up high in a small room, and cameras are almost always angled downwards cause thats where people usually are. but since monokuma was an AI at the time, he knew every single thing.
I think with Leon people forget that the characters are Japanese and Leon isn’t exactly a Japanese name so that would’ve prob been a lot harder for them to notice with his name than it was for us
I get this comment in every single video and this comment is literally the reason why leon didnt paid any mind to the number but its so f*** funny so i include it anyway HAHAHAHAH
@@YourFavoriteNPChow I view this mess up is that Leon killed Sayaka in a hurry and quickly left the room, assuming she was dead, and as he’s not used to seeing dead bodies at this point he never went back in there due to not wanting to see what he had done. So because of that he never saw that Sayaka wrote his name until everyone went to investigate the case and by that point it was too late
That's not the only reason though. Sayaka actually wrote in english and with english letters while those characters are used to seeing Kanji instead. They certainly do not expect to see actual letters, especially since they are high school students and they are not necessarily good in english (I know when I was in high school I was the only one in my class who correctly understood english for example... yeah, for real... I mean, come on, english is not that hard to learn !). So yeah, that explains why only Kyoko got the real meaning of the message. She's the only one who was smart enough to read it as letters instead of reading it as Kanji like everyone else was doing. There's also the fact that nobody is actually calling him Leon since they are Japanese. They are all calling him by his last name : Kuwata. Japanese people do not use the first name unless they are actually getting close. That's also why Leon ask who is Sakura during the trial when Hina says she was with her the whole time : she actually called Sakura by her first name while everyone else is calling her Ogami or Ogre. That's why Leon asked who was Sakura. If Danganronpa was translated properly every character would have used the names as real japanese people would (Naegi-Kun instead of Makoto, Kirigiri-San instead of Kyoko, etc...) and it would also have been better to keep the japanese kanji writing and just put subtitles to translate instead to make the player understand what it says. That way, the dying message really would have been the only english writing of the whole series and the case would have been just as complex as it was supposed to be.
Tbh, I feel Monokuma did it dirty with Kirumi. I mean, there would be no way for people to suspect Ryoma died by drowning without the Monokuma File. And Kirumi had set things up so perfectly so no one could figure out the cause of death... Also, I still believe in Gonta
I will always say that she should have stayed at the pool till it opened first thing in the morning to grab that inner tube. Like you're the ultimate maid and yet you don't make sure to get one of two of the most damning evidence against you l.
You also forget that the Monokubs also fucked over Kirumi by giving the gang a crucial picece of information regarding windows and people asking about windows during night time
I think if Kirumi had just not bothered with the whole rope setup her crime would have actually been impossible to solve since it was because of the rope setup that she left behind that evidence. Like bruh if she actually thought stuff through, she would have realized that she could have just leave Ryoma's body in his lab and no one would have been able to figure it out due to the fact that anyone could have gone in and killed Ryoma. The Ultimate Maid is supposed to be really smart but by going for extreme complexity she made the case a lot easier to solve.
right!! even if he had only listed the time of death, it was after nighttime so nobody would've had an alibi and it wouldn't reveal that he died by drowning because the cause of death wouldn't be there. and whoever said the monokubs fucked her over, i definitely agree with that too. that window comment was so out of pocket and monokuma should've personally punished monosuke for that, not monotaro.
Also Gundham could’ve easily made a believable excuse for why he heard the alarm - he could’ve just said his hamsters slipped under the door and heard it then let him know or something or that they were hungry so they woke him up to get him some seeds to eat. Of course, he didn’t do it because he had no intentions to win tho
One thing to note about Kaito's trial is that there's still the possibility that Maki is the culprit, as Kokichi still has that poison flowing in his veins. There's just no way to prove that that's what killed him. I do think that Nagito's case was harder, as the characters had to rely on Nagito's luck to guess who the killer is. There's no guarantee that the traitor would be the one to grab the poisoned grenade. Also, there's a lot more suspects to choose from. In Kaito's case, there's only three: Kaito, Kokichi, and Maki.
for kaito's, uhhh i dont think you can survive being splatted.... kaito himself said he splatted kokichi before kokichi dies of the poison. also for naegi's plan, thats exactly the issue. we're talking about horribly accurate plot armor level of luck here, and wouldnt you know it, chiaki DID throw the tampered grenade.
@@Mikairium The reason I like naegi’s plan is that he is the only lucky student that actually has abnormally high luck, and that is more of a trait of the character that he can take advantage of than plot armor, to me plot armor needs to be unexplained and or inconsistent
@@kurtmatteson4914 isnt there... a plot point with literally the electrical grenade to disable and forcibly shut down every electrical activities including the minikuma cameras and the hydraulic in the first place forcibly putting it on manual?
I feel like Kaede's trial should've at last been at #6. Think about it. If Kaede hadn't encouraged Shuichi to stand up for the truth, everyone would have blamed Shuichi for a crime that he didn't commit. They didn't even have much evidence to prove that it was Shuichi. They just assumed that it was Shuichi because he was the only one who wasn't speaking up during the trial, which made everyone consider him suspicious. Plus, Shuichi was the only one who was with Kaede throughout her whole planning scheme, without him witnessing everything that she'd done, no one else would have any proof that she had done the crime since no one else was with her during that time. On top of that, Kaede had killed Rantaro from a distance so therefore even if she didn't have a solid alibi, no one could say that she was anywhere near the crime when it took place.
To make this a simpler explanation: If Shuichi never said anything, Kaede would've won because no one even thought once about accusing her until she told Shuichi to tell the truth.
@l0vely_Kiraaa But if she actually didn' t kill Rantaro (including that her original ball was swapped)~ Then shouldn't they all have been executed for blaming the wrong person??
Not to mention, Miu "randomly" (maybe Tsumugi suggested it idk) decided to invent a drone to scan the library from above, which she never did again in the following cases. If not for that, Shuichi couldn't even prove that Kaede tempered with the books to prepare her trap.
The time for each part: 0:08 15: 11037 man 0:34 14: smooth like butter 1:16 13: mommy 1 2:01 12: incest guy 2:34 11: good character 2:52 10: feet pianist (sorry) 3:27 9: mommy 2 4:09 8: sword girl (step on me) 4:37 7: mom eater (haha get it?) 5:28 6: hey its goku 6:04 5: junko simp (womb stealer) 6:25 4: bro got trolled by an clock 7:20 3: bad time guy 8:36 2: average danganronpa fan 9:26 1: I STILL BELIVE IN GONTA!!
I still think that Nagito's plan was better than Kokichi's plan. Because Kokichi's plan caused three possibles murderers but Nagito's had six possible murderers
Bro Kokichi literally wrote a whole ass script just for his plan. Nagito's plan was good too but if Kaito didn't reveal himself, no one could find out the real culprit (even Monokuma)
@@kokichiouma9423 Everyone planned their murder, but it doesn't matter how detailed was. In the end it was three suspects against six. Besides Shuichi figured out Kokichi's murder without Kaito's revelation.
@@cloffebut at the end of the day, Shuuichi's deduction was only an educated guess. There really was no way to prove who was inside that exisal. Schrodinger's cat utilized in a murder plan
@@cloffeYou can make an educated guess based on Nagito's talent. As someone who didin't use the class trials to solve the murders, Kokichi's case is slightly harder.
@@cloffethe main difference between the 2 cases is that in nagito’s case only the killer knows she’s the killer and in kokichi’s case only the victim knows who’s the killer. Cuz kokichi could have also been poisoned to death since we don’t know whether he was smashed first or the drug kicked in first….and that way the killer would be Maki instead. It is because of that so the killer is uncertain, and monokuma is gonna pick whoever shuuichi thinks the killer is to punish, and tbh this part is very irritating to me. I think nagito’s case is more perfect because both the answer and the way to solve the crime are not only complicated but also acceptable at the same time
@@chocolateschnecke4272 No in Nagito's case the killer doesn't even know who it is, the only thing that made sense was that they deducted Nagito was targetting the "traitor", and the "traitor" knew who she was, but even then, they also need to trust that Nagito's luck actually worked and she was the killer, so no, no one knew who the killer was, not even the killer herself, and even knowing she was targetted, there was no way to know if she really was the killer, it was just a leap of faith that coincidentally worked. It was the perfect crime because the killer was unknown to even the killer him/herself, and even if they sorted out the target, it was 1 in 6 to bet if it actually worked that way or not, and if it didn't, everyone's screwed, and if it did but they think it's some kind of reverse psychology or don't trust in just pure luck, they may also get screwed.
Thoughts on each Chapter 1-5 case: 11037: I hear it's harder in Japanese, but if you speak English and don't get this, idk what to say. It's literally spelled out for you. It is interesting to think about what would have happened if Sayaka successfully killed him then framed Makoto during the trial. Mondo: The irony here is that it was an in the moment killing, but also basically a perfect crime with no hard evidence tying him to the crime scene. He was unlucky that Byakuya witnessed it, but at the same time Byakuya was making himself incredibly untrustworthy and the stunts he pulled with setting up the crime scene meant that there was no reason to take him seriously. Mondo's downfall was partially that he couldn't watch his mouth during the trial, but also because he had a conscience and didn't fight back very hard when he became the prime suspect. Yasuhiro Taiko: Easily one of the least sympathetic killers. She had a very creative set up that was fun to work through, but the motive and her behavior during the trial made it painfully obvious who did it. The funny part is that she could have backed out halfway through and let Hifumi take the fall, since she didn't personally kill anyone until midway through the investigation. Sakura: To whoever tries to claim 'Monokuma doesn't lie', good luck trying to reason this one away. While what Hina did here was obviously wrong, I do think that her character arc leading to this point doesn't get enough attention. She's probably the closest thing to an optimistic normal person in the first game, and every time a classmate kills and is then executed by her own vote, it wore away at her. Seeing her best friend commit suicide due to what she believed was the fault of her remaining classmates pushed her to her breaking point. Teruteru: This case was great at establishing that investigations in the sequel were going to be far more creative and complex than the first, as well as that the cast are going to pull more weight this time. It's worth mention that the floor layout shows that Hajime was the closest person to Nagito when the lights went out, and you find a hidden Monokuma in his cottage, similar to almost every victim. Basically, I believe that Hajime was nearly the first victim, but his inner hidden luck kicked in. Nagito in general was a huge screwball this time. Btw, stoves with electric starters can totally stay lit without power, and can be lit with an existing flame. I've cooked with them during blackouts before. Pekopekopeko: This one was brilliantly written. On the first playthrough, you're probably not going to notice any meaningful interactions prior to the case between her and Fuyuhiko (who I originally thought did it), but repeat playthroughs make you notice that sort of thing. Trying to get Hiyoko to stop lying so we could clear her was like pulling teeth. Granted, the incriminating evidence of Peko being soaking wet seemed pretty unrealistic given how long she waited between drugging Hiyoko and showing up at the beach house. Mikan: I'd like to start this off by saying in terms of motive, Mikan got screwed. Monokuma could have made anyone but Chiaki or Hajime into a deranged killer, and he just happened to pick Mikan. The trick used to temporarily hide Hiyoko's body and reveal it later to screw up the time of death was very creative. Gundham: First of all, self sacrifice does not involve killing an innocent man who did not need to die, going to great lengths to cover up for it, and trying to get away with it during the trial. Even though the motive of Monokuma starving everyone until a killing happened was total BS, he was still willing to choose his own life over everyone else. His belief is effectively dog eat dog, and to him it looked like everyone else had given up. When they managed to defeat him during the trial he was a good sport about it, but he didn't go down without a serious fight. That said, out of the cases where one person tries to kill another and get away with it, I genuinely believe Gundham did the best job. The case made full use out of the funhouses' quirks that nobody else had figured out yet, and he didn't do anything to make himself look suspicious during the trial. The only giveaway is that somebody had to press Nekomaru's button, and the Devas were the only viable method a classmate had to do that. Other than that, he got extremely unlucky with the doorknob breaking off and Fuyuhiko blocking his alibi. Nagito: Ok, this is by far and away the most ridiculous case they've cranked out. It opens with a complex but solvable case that's intended to look like torture but is resolved in a suicide. Then they just so happened to find the poison (did he have this under his hoodie during trial 4?) and the tiny foil cap from the fire grenades and understanding what that was. Realizing what happened only made the killer more vague, since whoever did it themselves had no idea. The only reason anyone besides Chiaki walked out of there was because she was sharp enough to realize he was pinpointing the traitor using his supernatural luck, was selfless enough to be willing to die for everyone else, and an actual miracle for her to be able to do so in spite of her programming. I'd like to take an intermission to draw attention to some insane nuance in her execution and what happens next. Chiaki's goal throughout the game was to protect everyone else at any cost. Needless to say, she had failed at this up to this point in spite of her best efforts. 10 students had died so far, and there were 10 Monomis thrown in with her to represent everyone who died. Unlike everyone else, they weren't pinned down and allowed to resist. One by one, they're all killed off through several stages before finally crushing Chiaki. This was Monokuma's way of saying she was a failure, a fool to resist him, and now you die. HOWEVER, let's think back to Nagito for a few minutes. Before realizing almost everyone in the group was despair, his goal was to sacrifice himself and everyone else through the trial system, and use the rebound from that despair to create the ultimate hope with the survivor having the strongest hope. I believe in an ironic twist that he didn't expect, Chiaki's hope to protect her friends with her life was the strongest hope and then inheritor of that will. This is how she lucked into surviving through the coding to come back and help them defeat Junko, and eventually revive their fallen friends. Kaede: This is basically the realization of what people say Gundham was trying to do. She was attempting to kill the mastermind instead of an innocent person, and actually outed herself without being discovered. That said, I noticed the book out of place over Rantaro's body during the investigation, and being able to get on the ladder and investigate that would have made things way simpler. On the other hand, Kaede wasn't really the one who killed him and we couldn't have figured out the truth while being locked away from an important part of the crime scene, so this feels like only the first half of the case. Kirumi: For someone so smart, she screwed up big time. If she had just left Ryoma drowned in his room, there would be nothing tying her to the case and people probably would have voted Maki. Instead she goes through a bunch of extra steps to create an obvious setup for Himiko, which ends up leaving evidence behind. Orochimaru: You invited people into an impromptu seance during the investigation and someone dies during that seance. Could you be any more obvious? Gonta: Screw you Kokichi! Considering AI Gonta was the killer and effectively a separate individual from fleshy Gonta, can we even really say he was the killer? I figured out most of what had happened and knew who did it going in, but this was painful. It was obvious that Miu was trying to do something suspicious, and also I was saying the whole game that Gonta needs to stay away from Kokichi. Kaito/Kokichi: This was an interesting one, with the culprit being in a giant mech and could either be my best friend or most hated enemy. Even Monokuma didn't know, which was a fun twist. The detail that gave the truth away to me was that he never called Kaito an idiot. Kokichi calls him that all the time, but Kaito can't stand it. For as well as this was set up, it's at worst a 50/50 guess for the culprit, and there was no way Kaito was going to let us take the fall for him.
Thank you for your service. It’s always fun to read through comments like this to see how other people viewed the game. I wish I didn’t tend to meta game as much as I did, because as soon as I saw Sakuras expressions with her death cut in, I could almost instantly tell it was a suicude. My favourite case was definitely Nagitos, because at the end of the day, the only thing that let them win to this day is his pure luck, and the realisation that they had almost mo strings attached to the killer was insane.
honestly if i was a killer in danganronpa i wanted take advantage of the "first come, first serve" rule and kill after someone else commited the murder. not only it would be harder to find out who the second killer is, but even if i was found out i would still be alive
But then you wouldn't be considered the blackened, meaning you wouldn't be able to escape the killing game if you're a killer but not the blackened, meaning why are you killing to begin with?
@@ethnictendo fear tatic. people would be too afraid to try to kill me. think about how toko survived once they found out she was genocide jill. no one tried her
@@rickjazzyroll Okay, but wouldn't that also make you way more sus later on? GJ was (albeit incorrectly) accused at least once for every murder since her introduction. If there's no one around to ensure you didn't kill anyone this time like Makoto and Kyoko were for GJ, you're basically giving the real killer an out without meaning to. It also makes you more susceptible to getting killed yourself. Unlike GJ who is a wanted serial killer that's fully capable of defending herself to the point that not even the police knows what she looks like, I assume you wouldn't have that luxury in this scenario (I assume you're not a serial killer irl lol). If you even manage to kill someone in between the time the first killer murdered someone and the trial for said murder starting, good luck surviving after that. Everyone not afraid of you will be after you and wanting you dead at that point. It's a double-ended sword.
I should point out that Rantaro's Murder is correctly solvable during Chapter 1 with the evidence presented in the game, but the game never brings up the clues required to solve it: 1. The Blood Spatter: Rantaro's body is not in front of the camera, where Karde's Death Trap was aimed. It is instead over the right of the camera, and the bloodstain on the shelf inficates Rantaro received a blow to the head while he was standing up. There is no way a man bent over towards a camera would leave more blood on the wall than on the floor. This should have been obvious, but neither Shuichi nor Kaede noticed it. 2. Given that the killer was confirmed to be in the room with Rantaro, only Shuici, Miu, or Monokuma/the Mastermind could have done it. We know Monokuma knew about the intervals because he tried to help Kaede by playing loud music to cover up the noise of the shot put ball rolling down the vent. That means they knew about Kaede's plan as well as the intended murder weapon. Therefore, if they knew that, they certainly knew about the camera intervals as well. 3. Shuichi and Miu both have solid alibis- there is no way Shuichi could have timed it with such a narrow window. Furthermore, Shuichi didn’t known about Kaede's plan, or else there would be no need to hide his intent to kill from Kaede in private. The killer must therefore be the Mastermind working with Monokuma, who must be missing an alibi. 4. The killer most likely injured their wrist at the time of the murder. A ball's striking surface is continuous- the same force required to break Rantaro's skull would certainly break the assailant's wrist as well in reaction. Keebo is too physically weak to accomplish this, and mechanical damage to his wrist would be immediately visible if he were the killer, even though he does not have an alibi. 5. No one entered the Mastermind Room from the library entrance, so it is logical to assume the secret room has an additional entrance somewhere else in the building. The only person who made a suspicious room to a specific room at the time of the murder, alone, was Tsumugi. 6. Since her wrist was likely broken during her attack, proving it was her would be easy enough to prove- just ask the cosplayer for a handshake on the Day 1 trial. Without time to heal, her pain should give her away immediately.
I remember seeing the blood splatter and thinking, No….theres no way, someone hit him from behind not, above, But when Kaede confessed, I guess I forgot that fact so quickly out of shock
Here’s the thing: Kokichi’s and Nagito’s death cases were both pretty unsolvable. Kokichi could’ve died from Maki’s poison darts even if Kaito confessed to having smushed him, so it would be a game of to believe Kaito or not, but due to how much trust he had gathered at that point and that he wasn’t made to be a killer, the case would’ve been solved like it was. However, Nagito’s literally couldn’t be solved. His Ultimate Luck resulted in the traitor being the killer, and Chiaki admitting to being the traitor allowed the case to be solved. But just because his talent is Ultimate Luck DOESNT GUARANTEE IT WOULD WORK. His death was unsolvable and could’ve been anyone.
Usually the ultimate's talent is related to the murder, so I'd say Nagito's is just barely solveable with or without the trial. Kokichi's? You're fucked without the evidence Kaito willingly gives during the trial and even after all that, it could've still been Kokichi or Kaito. If I'm remembering the case right, I'm pretty sure Maki never got fully cleared.
@@omoro1893 yeah but with Kokichi’s you could pressure Kaito after dismantling the exisal which, while not easy, is doable imo. In Nagito’s, there is no one to pressure into admitting the truth of killing him cause it is still just up to luck, but I get what you’re saying
I just realized that Celestia could have had Hifumi do all of the dirty work killing Taka and threw him under the bus at the class trial if she kept him alive. She could have killed two birds with one stone without getting her hands dirty all while watching the person she hated most face an execution she could have watched with satisfaction. Even if the class hated her afterwards, they couldn't touch her without putting themselves at risk of execution or sacrificing everyone else. It's a Kokichi-esqe and amazing villain move.
Celeste would've had a way better chance if she framed Taka instead of Hiro. Dude was already off his rocker after Mondo dying and the money motive fit into his backstory of being in massive debt
If he didn't do it we'd have no way to figure him as angie's killer lol, unless someone luckily chose to investigate the empty rooms and fall below the floor.
@@MrSasukeSusanooKind of true but it wouldn’t have been a guess in his favor, after all the katana was from HIS lab, creating suspicion despite anyone being able to get it
@@jerememes5340 sure, it's still suspicious but you know how this games go, if you don't have definitive proof then you can't convince everyone to vote based on a guess, specially one so broad as that one. I'm not saying it wouldn't work, reallistically speaking, if we had that kind of case, we still need to vote or monokuma would kill us so the most convincing guess would suffice, it's just that blaming him only for his katana when it's easy to say someone tried to frame him, it's a long stretch, he really would've made a mostly unsolvable case if it wasn't for his greediness.
The thing is, all cases in SDRA2 are probably way harder to solve if you didn’t have many highly intellectual characters basically carrying the case (Kokoro knowing who the first culprit was, Kanade knowing who the second culprit was, Syobai basically guessing the double blackened murder). Still, the third trial was so insanely convoluted and it relied on everything being perfect for the first time trying. If Kanade had not been created as this „I can do anything nearly perfect“ kind of character, there would have been more mistakes made.
The fact Nagito's plan is scary since he revealed his intentions but he said there was a traitor but there wasn't the traitor this cause Chiaki to be one our beloved pure-hearted person
The only proof that mikan was the murder (my opinion) it because there were no autopsy cause maybe Nagito or Chiaki but any of theme would had the idea to prevent an antopsy
but even without having evidence of her commiting the crime, she was literally the only one who wouldve ever had any opportunity whatsoever to kill Ibuki@@Tsukino2799
About the first case- it actually would be difficult for Japanese players that weren’t as experienced with reading simplified Japanese. If it was written in typical form, it would be a lot easier to figure out the culprit.
To be fair, Kokichi's plan is indeed the most unsolvable, because even in the end there's no proof that Shuichi's deductions were right. Before they realize the switch between culprit and victim, they came to conclusion that Kaito could die from 3 different causes: Maki's poison arrow, Kokichi's hydraulic press, and (the hidden cause) Kaito committing suicide to protect Maki. All of the causes make sense and there's no evidence to eliminate any of those possibilities. So in reverse, Kokichi could also die from 3 causes, arrow, hydraulic press and suicide, all pointing to different culprits. The thing is, no one thought about the possibility that Kokichi could have killed himself, and Kaito doesn't want to risk Maki getting executed. Shuichi's deduction was only at most 70% correct before Kaito jumps out, and still does not reach 100% afterward because even Kaito doesn't know whether Kokichi could have died from poison last second before hydraulic press crushed him (a very unlikely scenario, but no one can prove it didn't happen).
The central core of celestia's case was trying to implicate the robo justice wearing costume. But almost immediately the trial starts by proving that it was impossible for the outfit to be used. And both hifumi and celestia claim robo justice did it. So thats a very quick connection to celestia being involved
to be fair, half of THH's cases could have been solved in under ten minutes: Kirigiri revaling Sayaka wrote Leon's name Byakuya saying he saw Mondo leaving the crime scene Hina showing the suicide note
In defense on Leon Sayaka wrote his name in English, so for American player where everything is translated the case is really easy. In the actual universe where all the characters speak Japanese most wouldn’t even know what Leon’s name looks like in English so it would’ve been harder to figure the case out.
@@ari1758 Well there are several English players that still make fun of this point without understanding why this was so hard for the characters. In several videos of people playing the first game almost all of the players are complaining about how stupid it is that the characters don't know it's Leon.
I actually think trigger happy havoc's trial 5 is the hardest to solve as there wasn't enough evidence to say it was Junko and no matter what they did they wouldn't have won as Junko could just have another person executed instead. So its pretty much impossible unless you went full game theory conspiracy mode.
One extra thing I think some could have forgot or maybe it’s just a stupid thing to think is Celeste could’ve let Hifumi live since in the end if they figured out he was it then she would be still alive sure she gets less trusted for Helping but…..it’s perfectly obvious of the rule that was mentioned in the first trial that only the one who kills can graduate so I think it’s obvious that also only the Killer gets Executed. but share your opinions if I may proofed a point or not
I suppose she was, from the start, intending to win and get out with the money though. She tried her chance, placed her bet on her strategy and her luck, and unfortunately lost. Getting Hifumi out would've been easy though, sure.
If you ask me, I feel like gundham probably had the hardest case to solve, because like he said before, if Gundam hadn’t been cluing the group about how he committed the crime, and he was able to get back to his room before the alarm went off the remaining students would have literally no hard evidence proving that he killed mechumaru. Honestly, that’s why I love about case four of the second game it could’ve been in unsolvable case but the culprit had no intention of surviving. Gundam gave up his life, and while doing so created the almost perfect crime
Wait, i thought the reason why leon didn't get rid of his name was because the game said that sayaka wrote his name in such a way to try and hide the evidence from him...or something like that anyway. I could be misremebering things tbh.
I still didn't play v3, so i didn't know how hard to solve the case in that series, but for me, nagito plan is still the craziest among them all, i remember solving the case midway thinking 100% it just suicide, but still curios why i still have so many unused "clues" for that case, and oh boy, maybe that's the only case that can mind blowed me so good that makes me depressed
@@mikadosannoji553 Gundham used the polygon section of the building, that was uniting the strawberry house below with the grape house above, to move freely. Because only someone who cleared the final death room would know this, the rest of the cast except Nagito had their perception of reality wrong, they thought both houses were across each other, only connected through an elevator, and not in the way you can use it going through the polygon. That was the gist of it, Gundham used his advantage on reality perception, knowing the true layout of the building, thanks to Nagito also solving the final death room, the rest could deduct things going forward, if not, Gundham would've won. In the end the final proof of his involvement as killer was his own alibi, he wanted to reach his room, but Fuyuhiko was sitting in the way and thus thwarted his alibi, when the morning alarm went off, he had to reunite with fuyu and kazuichi or he would be suspicious, but that was a contradiction, because his room was one of those sound-proof, so by "hearing the alarm", it was proved that he wasn't in his room, and thus he was the killer, he had to do it like this because Nagito also was in a sound-proof room and they had to go get him because he couldn't hear the alarm himself, so if they went to get Gundham and not see him there, 3 people would've known he was the killer from the start.
0:54 Words are unable to describe the RAGE and ANGER I felt when Mondo mentioned the color of the sweater. Mondo is my favorite character of the entire series, and literally the only flaw he did was mention THE COLOR. OF A JERSEY. I got MAD AS HELL😭 I played the game like 3 years ago and at that time there wasnt a day where i didnt think about how Mondo would have survided by not saying a color. I hate everything.
The thing with the seesaw effect that makes it immediately clear who yhe murderer is is that since murder was commited via elaborate conraptiin setup in that room obviously one that proposed for group to head there is going to be prime suspect
Also, if there were two killers, it's mighty difficult for anyone to know someone wants to solve the case using such complex seance, not even the "first" killer would have a plan for that because they would need to perfectly predict korekiyo wanted to do this or just plainly know the future, so by knowing kiyo was the killer of the 2nd victim, he was also the 1st victim's, because no one can really do a 2nd murder in those probabilistically impossible circumstances.
Literally all Shuichi had to say is that there's no evidence to say that Kokichi pretended to drink the antidote and no evidence to support Kokichi and Kaito's swap. There was no evidence, so it would be more likely that it was faked to arrive at the wrong conclusion, thus still remaining at a stalemate. Also imagine if Kokichi died of the poison before the press crushed him meaning Maki was the blackened? There's just so many points that could have led to Kokichi's plan working. Then he would've succeeded in misleading Monokuma, I believe. Shuichi himself wasn't even sure Kaito was the culprit, and the whole claim standed on baseless conjecture without any evidence. But if I'm wrong, correct me.
Sayakas case is only easy for english players and those who can read it well, we need to remember all these characters are japanese, plus, some people can speak a language but not read it, or vice versa, its really just a case of a localization issue making it easier for another audience
Amazing video but you forgot the last crime in the first game the (junko)crime, i don't know any rank it will be but that crime takes place before the first crime and get solved in the end of the game so i think it deserves some credits here
5:24 You forgot one key thing working in Teruteru's favor On the bone meat. as far as Kaito/Kokichi. All obscuring from even Monokuma, all obscuring of the truth, all obscuring of details. Kokichi's plan was absolutely solid, and would have proved exactly how corrupt this system could be. The simple fact the victim was working alongside the killer to do this was what really sealed it as unsolvable. The victim masterminded his own death by convincing someone to kill him under the perfect scenario. But the biggest thing was the end goal wasn't Kaito winning. It was proving the game was a sham, and that they can lie about what happened purely for those watching. Shuichi got very close, realized 'wait if this IS right, why did it go down this way', came to the conclusion of them trying to bust the game, and steer it away from his conclusions. Kaito was afraid that Monokuma would accept that deduction before the re-steer, and confessed, saving their lives. But the pure icing? Kaito lived his dream and then died before he could be properly executed, giving Monokuma the absolute biggest middle finger in the entire franchise. Not even Junko/Monokuma being bested in prior games was as big a middle finger.
Also something I would like to point out abt the Angie-Tenko case idk if it was just me but it should’ve been obvious that they both had the same killed bc they both have the same fatal wound. That whole trial was pissing me off bc I knew that they had the same killer.
dangan 1, well I watched the anime first so playing the game, I already knew what was going to happen, but I suppose the fake mukuro death in ch.5 could've been difficult with no prior knowledge. dangan 2, idk if it was because it was summer and the heat melted my braincells, the case, or both, but man I was so lost and trying to figure out how those houses worked before knowing about the connection through the polygon. Special mention: in ch.5 I honestly thought it was Sonya because she showed interest in the occult and dark things like that, I thought that kind of kill on Nagito would've been her. dangan 3, all easy to figure out, the hard part actually was that I was so far ahead of the game that I often got stuck because I didn't know how to piece together something per the game's story rather than my own reasoning, or sometimes, the answer is very convoluted in some section of the class trial whereas I thought of something way more simple.
hide the body in a place where people wont find it until it starts to smell, most of the info and alibis during the murder will be forgotten by everyone
I ironically never looked so much at her avatar, and before the class trial when everyone reunites, I saw that the black part of her dress was kind of asymetrical and thought the black fabric came from her skirt. Right for the wrong reason I guess.
Pre-video: definitely Nagito’s crime is really top tier because his rode on his luck and was literally designed to make the culprit impossible to find by any normal means. They had no guarantee that his luck worked, so they essentially gambled since it was more likely that Chiaki was the killer than any other individual student. And even Chiaki couldn’t know whether or not she did it. Same with Kokichi’s case where it’s actually impossible to know what he died from first. It’s possible even Kaito didn’t know bc Kokichi could’ve died from the poison BEFORE the press came down on him. But the point of his plan is to have the victim be unknowable, which is why Monokuma gets away with declaring Kaito the culprit (even though Maki could totally be the culprit). 2:25 arguably I think Korekiyo should be at the lowest spot possible. Him choosing to kill a second student in such an obvious way that also links him to his other crime is truly a masterclass in idiocy. 9:18 eyyy yeah. Though the plan is really good, she could’ve been caught in ch1 so I understand
@@aizichi What do you mean? I am in the Obsession Overdrive Discord and follow the development, but what do you mean by when I was in one of the development videos?
In the gundham and mikan is so hard u are so true like bro there's too too many evidence and they are so tricky i couldn't even understand the case but thanks god i did it
nah, all of it wouldve succeeded if the mc doesnt have an insane memory, he deadass remembered when celestia said something like " we'll end up like them " 😰😰😰
Who said Kokichi used an electrobomb that would disable the safety measure of the press?, him and Kaito?, that could be a lie and part of the plan, no one trusts kokichi, but they do trust Kaito, if he says they used an electrobomb, they'll believe it, for all we know even Maki could be the culprit, and we'll never know it because we can't see through the lies of kokichi, and we would easily believe kaito even if he lies just once.
@@MrSasukeSusanoo However, the electrobomb is needed to have the mastermind not know the true culprit. The entire point of the trick was to make the mastermind wrong.
Honestly. I think no one can realistically solve that without Sora’s MC powers or Kokoro. I highly doubt even Kyoko could solve that. Especially if she has no knowledge of serial killers which was quite crucial knowledge from Syobai. Not to mention, Kanade still basically gave them the answer by not revealing that she was controlling Hibiki.
I would flip the bottom 2 since the obvious “they’re Japanese, they wouldn’t recognize Leon in English immediately” but also that 1-2 was literally seen, whereas 1-1 wasn’t. Mondo had no chance, Leon did
Ok but like in the original game since they were in japan and the 11037 was in English it was harder to figure out it said Leon then in the English game.
Imagine committing a crime and leaving ur name on it 😂 11037 moment
Please stop replying to this reply 😭🙏
Gonta is the best murderer
Kaito is a nerd
You're short
A real "L" moment
And in the bathroom there is a literal sink and shower 💀 there is two water sources how can you forget 💀
Bro did NOT check to see if Sayaka was writing
It was scary how effective Nagito's plan was. It would've succeeded but he didn't count on the traitor willingly revealing herself as the pure-hearted Chiaki who would gladly give up her life for the sake of her friends
I mean, Hajime had evidence that Chiaki was the traitor, but I doubt he would've revealed it if it wasn't for her insistence.
And if Nagito hadn’t said anything about the traitor at all chiaki would win the trial.
Plus, there was no actual evidence that the Traitor and the Killer were the same person, they just correctly guessed that it would happen due to Nagito’s luck
Also, like Sonia said, even if Chiaki's the traitor it doesn't mean she threw the poison, but it's already set in stone that one of the remaining six was the one who threw it (the 1 in 6 chance in this case reflects that of Nagito's 1 in 6 chance in russian roulette, which is just so good)
Well nagito found out they were the remnants of despair and he wanted hope not despair he knew if they were to stay alive they would get back their memories and start chaos so as an last attempt to stop the incoming despair he though of this plan no matter how gruesome or suffering he has to take
Kokichi's plan was solid that even monokuma cant even solve that case. Nagito would have won if he did not use his luck
Nagito had to use his luck because he NEEDED it to be a murder. to have a murder, you need a murder weapon and murderer. therefore, Nagito, who left the murder weapon between similar bottles, had to let the others use it to kill him.
and i think the only reason Kaito revealed himself is because he was about to die like it or not. Kaito died DURING execution, and considering Monokuma's swift despair inducing executions, Kaito had little to no time to live after his victory. i think he didnt wanted to live knowing he killed 6 people at the literal end of his life.
@@wrigthtalekenavi2066 i think they meant if nagito didnt use his luck to specifically target someone (traitor). because of that and that they realized he had a specific target in mind, they were able to figure it out. if he wanted to kill off most of them, he wouldnt have targeted someone specifically, and then they wouldve actually had to guess, and winning a guessing game against the luckiest student isnt exactly a winning possibility. monokuma even tried to push them to just guess so they woudlnt realize nagito had specific motives, and junky wouldve gotten most of their bodies.
Monokuma did know who killed Nagito because he knew which fire grenade was tampered and who picked it up
@@worshipersofmagikarp6958 uh. yeah i know? that was part of my point. here in case you forgot how DR2 worked, junko was an AI and she couldnt kill them directly because she couldnt delete the rules that said the teacher role (she was hacked in by izuru and made to be teacher role) couldnt directly interfere with students unless students violated the rules. so she made new rules to try to kill them, like punish (kill) them for breaking school rules. and of course she wanted to kill them to take over their bodies, and blahblahblah junkoland. i wasnt making a point about the solvability of the case, i was adding on to how nagito couldve won against his peers. in terms of solvability, shit was still tough tbh. if they were using normal cameras, it probably wouldve been unsolvable because the grenades were placed up high in a small room, and cameras are almost always angled downwards cause thats where people usually are. but since monokuma was an AI at the time, he knew every single thing.
@@sandsan9838 Wasn't a reply to your comment it was a reply to the main comment, I apologize I should have made that more clear
I think with Leon people forget that the characters are Japanese and Leon isn’t exactly a Japanese name so that would’ve prob been a lot harder for them to notice with his name than it was for us
I get this comment in every single video and this comment is literally the reason why leon didnt paid any mind to the number but its so f*** funny so i include it anyway HAHAHAHAH
@@YourFavoriteNPChow I view this mess up is that Leon killed Sayaka in a hurry and quickly left the room, assuming she was dead, and as he’s not used to seeing dead bodies at this point he never went back in there due to not wanting to see what he had done. So because of that he never saw that Sayaka wrote his name until everyone went to investigate the case and by that point it was too late
That's not the only reason though. Sayaka actually wrote in english and with english letters while those characters are used to seeing Kanji instead. They certainly do not expect to see actual letters, especially since they are high school students and they are not necessarily good in english (I know when I was in high school I was the only one in my class who correctly understood english for example... yeah, for real... I mean, come on, english is not that hard to learn !). So yeah, that explains why only Kyoko got the real meaning of the message. She's the only one who was smart enough to read it as letters instead of reading it as Kanji like everyone else was doing.
There's also the fact that nobody is actually calling him Leon since they are Japanese. They are all calling him by his last name : Kuwata. Japanese people do not use the first name unless they are actually getting close. That's also why Leon ask who is Sakura during the trial when Hina says she was with her the whole time : she actually called Sakura by her first name while everyone else is calling her Ogami or Ogre. That's why Leon asked who was Sakura. If Danganronpa was translated properly every character would have used the names as real japanese people would (Naegi-Kun instead of Makoto, Kirigiri-San instead of Kyoko, etc...) and it would also have been better to keep the japanese kanji writing and just put subtitles to translate instead to make the player understand what it says. That way, the dying message really would have been the only english writing of the whole series and the case would have been just as complex as it was supposed to be.
Kyoko is the only one who knew English
I would actually believe that ngl.
also sayaka had written his name AFTER he left the room. its stated in the trial.
Tbh, I feel Monokuma did it dirty with Kirumi. I mean, there would be no way for people to suspect Ryoma died by drowning without the Monokuma File. And Kirumi had set things up so perfectly so no one could figure out the cause of death...
Also, I still believe in Gonta
I will always say that she should have stayed at the pool till it opened first thing in the morning to grab that inner tube. Like you're the ultimate maid and yet you don't make sure to get one of two of the most damning evidence against you l.
You also forget that the Monokubs also fucked over Kirumi by giving the gang a crucial picece of information regarding windows and people asking about windows during night time
I think if Kirumi had just not bothered with the whole rope setup her crime would have actually been impossible to solve since it was because of the rope setup that she left behind that evidence. Like bruh if she actually thought stuff through, she would have realized that she could have just leave Ryoma's body in his lab and no one would have been able to figure it out due to the fact that anyone could have gone in and killed Ryoma. The Ultimate Maid is supposed to be really smart but by going for extreme complexity she made the case a lot easier to solve.
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right!! even if he had only listed the time of death, it was after nighttime so nobody would've had an alibi and it wouldn't reveal that he died by drowning because the cause of death wouldn't be there. and whoever said the monokubs fucked her over, i definitely agree with that too. that window comment was so out of pocket and monokuma should've personally punished monosuke for that, not monotaro.
UA-camrs like you are what keep the Danganronpa franchise alive; thank you for making content on these games.
Comments like this are what keeps me going, thank you, genuinely
Also Gundham could’ve easily made a believable excuse for why he heard the alarm - he could’ve just said his hamsters slipped under the door and heard it then let him know or something or that they were hungry so they woke him up to get him some seeds to eat. Of course, he didn’t do it because he had no intentions to win tho
That slip under the door excuse wouldn’t have flied if the whole premise of his alibi rested on his room being soundproof
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If the rooms were soundproof, there wouldn't BE gap under the door, so that still wouldn't work.
One thing to note about Kaito's trial is that there's still the possibility that Maki is the culprit, as Kokichi still has that poison flowing in his veins. There's just no way to prove that that's what killed him.
I do think that Nagito's case was harder, as the characters had to rely on Nagito's luck to guess who the killer is. There's no guarantee that the traitor would be the one to grab the poisoned grenade. Also, there's a lot more suspects to choose from. In Kaito's case, there's only three: Kaito, Kokichi, and Maki.
for kaito's, uhhh i dont think you can survive being splatted.... kaito himself said he splatted kokichi before kokichi dies of the poison.
also for naegi's plan, thats exactly the issue. we're talking about horribly accurate plot armor level of luck here, and wouldnt you know it, chiaki DID throw the tampered grenade.
@@Mikairium The reason I like naegi’s plan is that he is the only lucky student that actually has abnormally high luck, and that is more of a trait of the character that he can take advantage of than plot armor, to me plot armor needs to be unexplained and or inconsistent
@@Mikairium yeah but there's always chance that kokichi died literally seconds before he got squashed
Maki was definitely the culprit there. The press wouldn't have crushed Kokichi until he died from the poison due to its safety function.
@@kurtmatteson4914 isnt there... a plot point with literally the electrical grenade to disable and forcibly shut down every electrical activities including the minikuma cameras and the hydraulic in the first place forcibly putting it on manual?
I feel like Kaede's trial should've at last been at #6. Think about it. If Kaede hadn't encouraged Shuichi to stand up for the truth, everyone would have blamed Shuichi for a crime that he didn't commit. They didn't even have much evidence to prove that it was Shuichi. They just assumed that it was Shuichi because he was the only one who wasn't speaking up during the trial, which made everyone consider him suspicious. Plus, Shuichi was the only one who was with Kaede throughout her whole planning scheme, without him witnessing everything that she'd done, no one else would have any proof that she had done the crime since no one else was with her during that time. On top of that, Kaede had killed Rantaro from a distance so therefore even if she didn't have a solid alibi, no one could say that she was anywhere near the crime when it took place.
To make this a simpler explanation: If Shuichi never said anything, Kaede would've won because no one even thought once about accusing her until she told Shuichi to tell the truth.
And Kaede wasn't even the one to kill Rantaro!
@@void.zWhat made you think that😂
@l0vely_Kiraaa But if she actually didn' t kill Rantaro (including that her original ball was swapped)~ Then shouldn't they all have been executed for blaming the wrong person??
Not to mention, Miu "randomly" (maybe Tsumugi suggested it idk) decided to invent a drone to scan the library from above, which she never did again in the following cases. If not for that, Shuichi couldn't even prove that Kaede tempered with the books to prepare her trap.
For me the easiest case was Peko's cause I knew it was her since Akane said that only ninja could get out from the bathroom window
and Akane is too dumb to do it lol
The time for each part:
0:08 15: 11037 man
0:34 14: smooth like butter
1:16 13: mommy 1
2:01 12: incest guy
2:34 11: good character
2:52 10: feet pianist (sorry)
3:27 9: mommy 2
4:09 8: sword girl (step on me)
4:37 7: mom eater (haha get it?)
5:28 6: hey its goku
6:04 5: junko simp (womb stealer)
6:25 4: bro got trolled by an clock
7:20 3: bad time guy
8:36 2: average danganronpa fan
9:26 1: I STILL BELIVE IN GONTA!!
I have not seen the video yet, but now I know who is which place!
@@OberKiwi944 lol i mean ofc u do i named It perfectly
@@Mantussy7 Yes!
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I still think that Nagito's plan was better than Kokichi's plan. Because Kokichi's plan caused three possibles murderers but Nagito's had six possible murderers
Bro Kokichi literally wrote a whole ass script just for his plan. Nagito's plan was good too but if Kaito didn't reveal himself, no one could find out the real culprit (even Monokuma)
@@kokichiouma9423 Everyone planned their murder, but it doesn't matter how detailed was. In the end it was three suspects against six. Besides Shuichi figured out Kokichi's murder without Kaito's revelation.
yea but even monokuma couldnt figure out who killed kokichi
@@kubkubs3234 But the crime was still easier to deduce who kill Kokichi because the list of suspects was few
as much as i loved kokichi's plan, nagito's fucked me up beyond repair. Sooo I agree 👹👹
man, and yet mommy doesn't get any sympathy from many people. she had to choose to either risk a small amount of people or every single life of japan.
Definitely Nagito's. I mean, it was a literal impossible case to solve
@@cloffebut at the end of the day, Shuuichi's deduction was only an educated guess. There really was no way to prove who was inside that exisal. Schrodinger's cat utilized in a murder plan
@@cloffeYou can make an educated guess based on Nagito's talent. As someone who didin't use the class trials to solve the murders, Kokichi's case is slightly harder.
@@cloffethe main difference between the 2 cases is that in nagito’s case only the killer knows she’s the killer and in kokichi’s case only the victim knows who’s the killer. Cuz kokichi could have also been poisoned to death since we don’t know whether he was smashed first or the drug kicked in first….and that way the killer would be Maki instead. It is because of that so the killer is uncertain, and monokuma is gonna pick whoever shuuichi thinks the killer is to punish, and tbh this part is very irritating to me. I think nagito’s case is more perfect because both the answer and the way to solve the crime are not only complicated but also acceptable at the same time
@@chocolateschnecke4272 No in Nagito's case the killer doesn't even know who it is, the only thing that made sense was that they deducted Nagito was targetting the "traitor", and the "traitor" knew who she was, but even then, they also need to trust that Nagito's luck actually worked and she was the killer, so no, no one knew who the killer was, not even the killer herself, and even knowing she was targetted, there was no way to know if she really was the killer, it was just a leap of faith that coincidentally worked. It was the perfect crime because the killer was unknown to even the killer him/herself, and even if they sorted out the target, it was 1 in 6 to bet if it actually worked that way or not, and if it didn't, everyone's screwed, and if it did but they think it's some kind of reverse psychology or don't trust in just pure luck, they may also get screwed.
I dunno, Leon's trial was pretty difficult for my blind friend.
Then what about the others?
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Thoughts on each Chapter 1-5 case:
11037: I hear it's harder in Japanese, but if you speak English and don't get this, idk what to say. It's literally spelled out for you. It is interesting to think about what would have happened if Sayaka successfully killed him then framed Makoto during the trial.
Mondo: The irony here is that it was an in the moment killing, but also basically a perfect crime with no hard evidence tying him to the crime scene. He was unlucky that Byakuya witnessed it, but at the same time Byakuya was making himself incredibly untrustworthy and the stunts he pulled with setting up the crime scene meant that there was no reason to take him seriously. Mondo's downfall was partially that he couldn't watch his mouth during the trial, but also because he had a conscience and didn't fight back very hard when he became the prime suspect.
Yasuhiro Taiko: Easily one of the least sympathetic killers. She had a very creative set up that was fun to work through, but the motive and her behavior during the trial made it painfully obvious who did it. The funny part is that she could have backed out halfway through and let Hifumi take the fall, since she didn't personally kill anyone until midway through the investigation.
Sakura: To whoever tries to claim 'Monokuma doesn't lie', good luck trying to reason this one away. While what Hina did here was obviously wrong, I do think that her character arc leading to this point doesn't get enough attention. She's probably the closest thing to an optimistic normal person in the first game, and every time a classmate kills and is then executed by her own vote, it wore away at her. Seeing her best friend commit suicide due to what she believed was the fault of her remaining classmates pushed her to her breaking point.
Teruteru: This case was great at establishing that investigations in the sequel were going to be far more creative and complex than the first, as well as that the cast are going to pull more weight this time. It's worth mention that the floor layout shows that Hajime was the closest person to Nagito when the lights went out, and you find a hidden Monokuma in his cottage, similar to almost every victim. Basically, I believe that Hajime was nearly the first victim, but his inner hidden luck kicked in. Nagito in general was a huge screwball this time. Btw, stoves with electric starters can totally stay lit without power, and can be lit with an existing flame. I've cooked with them during blackouts before.
Pekopekopeko: This one was brilliantly written. On the first playthrough, you're probably not going to notice any meaningful interactions prior to the case between her and Fuyuhiko (who I originally thought did it), but repeat playthroughs make you notice that sort of thing. Trying to get Hiyoko to stop lying so we could clear her was like pulling teeth. Granted, the incriminating evidence of Peko being soaking wet seemed pretty unrealistic given how long she waited between drugging Hiyoko and showing up at the beach house.
Mikan: I'd like to start this off by saying in terms of motive, Mikan got screwed. Monokuma could have made anyone but Chiaki or Hajime into a deranged killer, and he just happened to pick Mikan. The trick used to temporarily hide Hiyoko's body and reveal it later to screw up the time of death was very creative.
Gundham: First of all, self sacrifice does not involve killing an innocent man who did not need to die, going to great lengths to cover up for it, and trying to get away with it during the trial. Even though the motive of Monokuma starving everyone until a killing happened was total BS, he was still willing to choose his own life over everyone else. His belief is effectively dog eat dog, and to him it looked like everyone else had given up. When they managed to defeat him during the trial he was a good sport about it, but he didn't go down without a serious fight. That said, out of the cases where one person tries to kill another and get away with it, I genuinely believe Gundham did the best job. The case made full use out of the funhouses' quirks that nobody else had figured out yet, and he didn't do anything to make himself look suspicious during the trial. The only giveaway is that somebody had to press Nekomaru's button, and the Devas were the only viable method a classmate had to do that. Other than that, he got extremely unlucky with the doorknob breaking off and Fuyuhiko blocking his alibi.
Nagito: Ok, this is by far and away the most ridiculous case they've cranked out. It opens with a complex but solvable case that's intended to look like torture but is resolved in a suicide. Then they just so happened to find the poison (did he have this under his hoodie during trial 4?) and the tiny foil cap from the fire grenades and understanding what that was. Realizing what happened only made the killer more vague, since whoever did it themselves had no idea. The only reason anyone besides Chiaki walked out of there was because she was sharp enough to realize he was pinpointing the traitor using his supernatural luck, was selfless enough to be willing to die for everyone else, and an actual miracle for her to be able to do so in spite of her programming.
I'd like to take an intermission to draw attention to some insane nuance in her execution and what happens next. Chiaki's goal throughout the game was to protect everyone else at any cost. Needless to say, she had failed at this up to this point in spite of her best efforts. 10 students had died so far, and there were 10 Monomis thrown in with her to represent everyone who died. Unlike everyone else, they weren't pinned down and allowed to resist. One by one, they're all killed off through several stages before finally crushing Chiaki. This was Monokuma's way of saying she was a failure, a fool to resist him, and now you die. HOWEVER, let's think back to Nagito for a few minutes. Before realizing almost everyone in the group was despair, his goal was to sacrifice himself and everyone else through the trial system, and use the rebound from that despair to create the ultimate hope with the survivor having the strongest hope. I believe in an ironic twist that he didn't expect, Chiaki's hope to protect her friends with her life was the strongest hope and then inheritor of that will. This is how she lucked into surviving through the coding to come back and help them defeat Junko, and eventually revive their fallen friends.
Kaede: This is basically the realization of what people say Gundham was trying to do. She was attempting to kill the mastermind instead of an innocent person, and actually outed herself without being discovered. That said, I noticed the book out of place over Rantaro's body during the investigation, and being able to get on the ladder and investigate that would have made things way simpler. On the other hand, Kaede wasn't really the one who killed him and we couldn't have figured out the truth while being locked away from an important part of the crime scene, so this feels like only the first half of the case.
Kirumi: For someone so smart, she screwed up big time. If she had just left Ryoma drowned in his room, there would be nothing tying her to the case and people probably would have voted Maki. Instead she goes through a bunch of extra steps to create an obvious setup for Himiko, which ends up leaving evidence behind.
Orochimaru: You invited people into an impromptu seance during the investigation and someone dies during that seance. Could you be any more obvious?
Gonta: Screw you Kokichi! Considering AI Gonta was the killer and effectively a separate individual from fleshy Gonta, can we even really say he was the killer? I figured out most of what had happened and knew who did it going in, but this was painful. It was obvious that Miu was trying to do something suspicious, and also I was saying the whole game that Gonta needs to stay away from Kokichi.
Kaito/Kokichi: This was an interesting one, with the culprit being in a giant mech and could either be my best friend or most hated enemy. Even Monokuma didn't know, which was a fun twist. The detail that gave the truth away to me was that he never called Kaito an idiot. Kokichi calls him that all the time, but Kaito can't stand it. For as well as this was set up, it's at worst a 50/50 guess for the culprit, and there was no way Kaito was going to let us take the fall for him.
Thank you for your service. It’s always fun to read through comments like this to see how other people viewed the game. I wish I didn’t tend to meta game as much as I did, because as soon as I saw Sakuras expressions with her death cut in, I could almost instantly tell it was a suicude. My favourite case was definitely Nagitos, because at the end of the day, the only thing that let them win to this day is his pure luck, and the realisation that they had almost mo strings attached to the killer was insane.
Gundham was most definitely not trying to get away with it during the trial. He was dropping hints throughout the whole thing.
Ngl Kokichi's overpreperation with the script was their downfall, as if they just said and did nothing everything would work out perfectly
orochimaru 😭i’m crying
I actually missed the 11037 meaning Leon but still ended up thinking it was Leon because he's the only one who could throw the crystal ball accurately
1:15 the “what” got me
honestly if i was a killer in danganronpa i wanted take advantage of the "first come, first serve" rule and kill after someone else commited the murder. not only it would be harder to find out who the second killer is, but even if i was found out i would still be alive
But then you wouldn't be considered the blackened, meaning you wouldn't be able to escape the killing game if you're a killer but not the blackened, meaning why are you killing to begin with?
@@ethnictendo fear tatic. people would be too afraid to try to kill me. think about how toko survived once they found out she was genocide jill. no one tried her
@@rickjazzyroll Okay, but wouldn't that also make you way more sus later on? GJ was (albeit incorrectly) accused at least once for every murder since her introduction. If there's no one around to ensure you didn't kill anyone this time like Makoto and Kyoko were for GJ, you're basically giving the real killer an out without meaning to.
It also makes you more susceptible to getting killed yourself. Unlike GJ who is a wanted serial killer that's fully capable of defending herself to the point that not even the police knows what she looks like, I assume you wouldn't have that luxury in this scenario (I assume you're not a serial killer irl lol). If you even manage to kill someone in between the time the first killer murdered someone and the trial for said murder starting, good luck surviving after that. Everyone not afraid of you will be after you and wanting you dead at that point. It's a double-ended sword.
@@ethnictendo even if they would try to kill me. they would not know what im planning
@@rickjazzyroll But would you know what they're planning, specifically?
It took me a while to truly appreciate drv3 chapter 5’s trial for how complex and different it is. Probably my favorite trial in all three games
Fr ppl was runnin back and forth with "KOKICHI DIED" "NAH HE THE MASTERMIND" "BUT KAITO FINNA BE ALIVE" "THE FOOTAGE?!"
it was easily the best trial
the most gonta moment:
i forgor i comit da crime 💀
It was so heartbreaking too
I should point out that Rantaro's Murder is correctly solvable during Chapter 1 with the evidence presented in the game, but the game never brings up the clues required to solve it:
1. The Blood Spatter: Rantaro's body is not in front of the camera, where Karde's Death Trap was aimed. It is instead over the right of the camera, and the bloodstain on the shelf inficates Rantaro received a blow to the head while he was standing up. There is no way a man bent over towards a camera would leave more blood on the wall than on the floor. This should have been obvious, but neither Shuichi nor Kaede noticed it.
2. Given that the killer was confirmed to be in the room with Rantaro, only Shuici, Miu, or Monokuma/the Mastermind could have done it. We know Monokuma knew about the intervals because he tried to help Kaede by playing loud music to cover up the noise of the shot put ball rolling down the vent. That means they knew about Kaede's plan as well as the intended murder weapon. Therefore, if they knew that, they certainly knew about the camera intervals as well.
3. Shuichi and Miu both have solid alibis- there is no way Shuichi could have timed it with such a narrow window. Furthermore, Shuichi didn’t known about Kaede's plan, or else there would be no need to hide his intent to kill from Kaede in private. The killer must therefore be the Mastermind working with Monokuma, who must be missing an alibi.
4. The killer most likely injured their wrist at the time of the murder. A ball's striking surface is continuous- the same force required to break Rantaro's skull would certainly break the assailant's wrist as well in reaction. Keebo is too physically weak to accomplish this, and mechanical damage to his wrist would be immediately visible if he were the killer, even though he does not have an alibi.
5. No one entered the Mastermind Room from the library entrance, so it is logical to assume the secret room has an additional entrance somewhere else in the building. The only person who made a suspicious room to a specific room at the time of the murder, alone, was Tsumugi.
6. Since her wrist was likely broken during her attack, proving it was her would be easy enough to prove- just ask the cosplayer for a handshake on the Day 1 trial. Without time to heal, her pain should give her away immediately.
I remember seeing the blood splatter and thinking,
No….theres no way, someone hit him from behind not, above,
But when Kaede confessed, I guess I forgot that fact so quickly out of shock
Here’s the thing: Kokichi’s and Nagito’s death cases were both pretty unsolvable. Kokichi could’ve died from Maki’s poison darts even if Kaito confessed to having smushed him, so it would be a game of to believe Kaito or not, but due to how much trust he had gathered at that point and that he wasn’t made to be a killer, the case would’ve been solved like it was.
However, Nagito’s literally couldn’t be solved. His Ultimate Luck resulted in the traitor being the killer, and Chiaki admitting to being the traitor allowed the case to be solved. But just because his talent is Ultimate Luck DOESNT GUARANTEE IT WOULD WORK. His death was unsolvable and could’ve been anyone.
Usually the ultimate's talent is related to the murder, so I'd say Nagito's is just barely solveable with or without the trial.
Kokichi's? You're fucked without the evidence Kaito willingly gives during the trial and even after all that, it could've still been Kokichi or Kaito. If I'm remembering the case right, I'm pretty sure Maki never got fully cleared.
@@omoro1893 yeah but with Kokichi’s you could pressure Kaito after dismantling the exisal which, while not easy, is doable imo. In Nagito’s, there is no one to pressure into admitting the truth of killing him cause it is still just up to luck, but I get what you’re saying
@@omoro1893 didn't shuichi solve it thought ?
I just realized that Celestia could have had Hifumi do all of the dirty work killing Taka and threw him under the bus at the class trial if she kept him alive. She could have killed two birds with one stone without getting her hands dirty all while watching the person she hated most face an execution she could have watched with satisfaction. Even if the class hated her afterwards, they couldn't touch her without putting themselves at risk of execution or sacrificing everyone else. It's a Kokichi-esqe and amazing villain move.
But the… one millions buckeroos
Celeste desperatly wanted to get out
Celeste would've had a way better chance if she framed Taka instead of Hiro. Dude was already off his rocker after Mondo dying and the money motive fit into his backstory of being in massive debt
Taka is not in debt at all ,you mean Hiro right?@@bemiatto67
Kiyo thinks he so smart for thinking of the seesaw trick that he had to kill Tenko for no reason just to use it
He is the ultimate sis- i mean the ultimate seesaw lover
If he didn't do it we'd have no way to figure him as angie's killer lol, unless someone luckily chose to investigate the empty rooms and fall below the floor.
@@MrSasukeSusanooKind of true but it wouldn’t have been a guess in his favor, after all the katana was from HIS lab, creating suspicion despite anyone being able to get it
@@jerememes5340 sure, it's still suspicious but you know how this games go, if you don't have definitive proof then you can't convince everyone to vote based on a guess, specially one so broad as that one. I'm not saying it wouldn't work, reallistically speaking, if we had that kind of case, we still need to vote or monokuma would kill us so the most convincing guess would suffice, it's just that blaming him only for his katana when it's easy to say someone tried to frame him, it's a long stretch, he really would've made a mostly unsolvable case if it wasn't for his greediness.
@@MrSasukeSusanoo i agree, yeah
This video: Kaito's is the hardest one to solve.
Me an intellectual: SDRA2 CASE 3
Also, no need to tell me that only official cases were counted, I watched the entire video.
indeed
Oh god YES
case 4 before knowing about the polygon was equally confusing for me
The thing is, all cases in SDRA2 are probably way harder to solve if you didn’t have many highly intellectual characters basically carrying the case (Kokoro knowing who the first culprit was, Kanade knowing who the second culprit was, Syobai basically guessing the double blackened murder).
Still, the third trial was so insanely convoluted and it relied on everything being perfect for the first time trying. If Kanade had not been created as this „I can do anything nearly perfect“ kind of character, there would have been more mistakes made.
You can’t prove that I evaded my taxes, Kokichi!
The fact Nagito's plan is scary since he revealed his intentions but he said there was a traitor but there wasn't the traitor this cause Chiaki to be one our beloved pure-hearted person
Am I the only one that thought Mikans was easy as fuck? She was like the only who could’ve possibly had an opportunity to kill Ibuki
Yeah Mikan's case was pretty easy even without the trial
yeah I immeditly knew it was her lol before the trial even began @@omoro1893
The only proof that mikan was the murder (my opinion) it because there were no autopsy cause maybe Nagito or Chiaki but any of theme would had the idea to prevent an antopsy
but even without having evidence of her commiting the crime, she was literally the only one who wouldve ever had any opportunity whatsoever to kill Ibuki@@Tsukino2799
@@GxGNoir yeah she was literally the only one with the ill students, and if the rest had an alibi, well tough luck mikan
About the first case- it actually would be difficult for Japanese players that weren’t as experienced with reading simplified Japanese. If it was written in typical form, it would be a lot easier to figure out the culprit.
3:31 “The ultimate mom- ÆaAEWSAWE- The Ultimate Maid.”
Haha😂
10:07 tbh I wanted them all to die when I learned Kokichi was the victim and we wouldn’t see him anymore
SAME
HAHAHA! STUPID! THAT WAS JUST A LIE! *JUMPS OUT OF EXISAL*
Bro I thought none of them would appear and we would see junko or something 😭😭
@@NadaAlomani honestly it’s fair as junko sneaked everywhere
THIS @@NadaAlomani
To be fair, Kokichi's plan is indeed the most unsolvable, because even in the end there's no proof that Shuichi's deductions were right. Before they realize the switch between culprit and victim, they came to conclusion that Kaito could die from 3 different causes: Maki's poison arrow, Kokichi's hydraulic press, and (the hidden cause) Kaito committing suicide to protect Maki. All of the causes make sense and there's no evidence to eliminate any of those possibilities. So in reverse, Kokichi could also die from 3 causes, arrow, hydraulic press and suicide, all pointing to different culprits. The thing is, no one thought about the possibility that Kokichi could have killed himself, and Kaito doesn't want to risk Maki getting executed. Shuichi's deduction was only at most 70% correct before Kaito jumps out, and still does not reach 100% afterward because even Kaito doesn't know whether Kokichi could have died from poison last second before hydraulic press crushed him (a very unlikely scenario, but no one can prove it didn't happen).
Byakuya:❌
Bakayuka:✅
Challenge: make one danganronpa video without a 11037 joke[IMPOSSIBLE]
The central core of celestia's case was trying to implicate the robo justice wearing costume. But almost immediately the trial starts by proving that it was impossible for the outfit to be used. And both hifumi and celestia claim robo justice did it. So thats a very quick connection to celestia being involved
3:50 i never tire of the symbolism that the ultimate maid gets caught by... you guessed it. *littering.*
idk how they didnt figure out leon was the blackend in 10 mins from that one clue on the wall. 🤦🤦
their japanese, I could see the challenge
The only who knew English was probably Sayaka
@@ASTERIA_YT a inteligent snake i see
@heatherheatheroglu4431 if i was sayaka it would just put a baseball.
to be fair, half of THH's cases could have been solved in under ten minutes:
Kirigiri revaling Sayaka wrote Leon's name
Byakuya saying he saw Mondo leaving the crime scene
Hina showing the suicide note
I want to see a danganronpa case where the blackened doesn’t hide anything they just straight up eat the victim
The Ultimate Cannibal
Funfact, in the secocod game's beta, teruteru was supposed to kill Hiyoko. And then just cook her and serve her during the party
tbh i wanna see that too
In defense on Leon Sayaka wrote his name in English, so for American player where everything is translated the case is really easy. In the actual universe where all the characters speak Japanese most wouldn’t even know what Leon’s name looks like in English so it would’ve been harder to figure the case out.
this is commented like 5000 times on these videos bro we GET it 😭😭
@@ari1758 Well there are several English players that still make fun of this point without understanding why this was so hard for the characters. In several videos of people playing the first game almost all of the players are complaining about how stupid it is that the characters don't know it's Leon.
The worst thing is that kaito’s execution wasn’t even successful 💀
Imagine leaving your name on a dead body and it looked like numbers
I actually think trigger happy havoc's trial 5 is the hardest to solve as there wasn't enough evidence to say it was Junko and no matter what they did they wouldn't have won as Junko could just have another person executed instead. So its pretty much impossible unless you went full game theory conspiracy mode.
Trial 5/6 is the "story trial" so it's not worth actually trying to solve them. Glad chapter 5 in the other games are fun challenges though
One extra thing I think some could have forgot or maybe it’s just a stupid thing to think is Celeste could’ve let Hifumi live since in the end if they figured out he was it then she would be still alive sure she gets less trusted for Helping but…..it’s perfectly obvious of the rule that was mentioned in the first trial that only the one who kills can graduate so I think it’s obvious that also only the Killer gets Executed. but share your opinions if I may proofed a point or not
I suppose she was, from the start, intending to win and get out with the money though. She tried her chance, placed her bet on her strategy and her luck, and unfortunately lost. Getting Hifumi out would've been easy though, sure.
4:34 alright bro..
Kaede didn't actually murder anybody and she thought she did. She got framed by the mastermind
New 10 minute npc video?! Yes please! 🙏🙏
If you ask me, I feel like gundham probably had the hardest case to solve, because like he said before, if Gundam hadn’t been cluing the group about how he committed the crime, and he was able to get back to his room before the alarm went off the remaining students would have literally no hard evidence proving that he killed mechumaru. Honestly, that’s why I love about case four of the second game it could’ve been in unsolvable case but the culprit had no intention of surviving. Gundam gave up his life, and while doing so created the almost perfect crime
Gundham is top 3 imo
Wait, i thought the reason why leon didn't get rid of his name was because the game said that sayaka wrote his name in such a way to try and hide the evidence from him...or something like that anyway. I could be misremebering things tbh.
Its also probably because the water didn’t work at nighttime
@@lv9up i forgot about that detail. Thanks for reminding me.
@@carolynbossom2297 plus in the case summary it literally says that as she was dying she moved her body in front of the letters to hide it
It was kinda obvious that kokichi was the one who died because of his shirt in the toilet. Atleast that's when I figured it out
I thought Tsumugi would be 1 but as soon as I saw she was 2 I immediately knew who won first place
During the second class trial in Trigger Happy Havoc, Bakayuka acted really sus
It is because he witnessed the murder so he wanted to make it interesting by tampering the evidence and reveal a serial killer.
I still didn't play v3, so i didn't know how hard to solve the case in that series, but for me, nagito plan is still the craziest among them all, i remember solving the case midway thinking 100% it just suicide, but still curios why i still have so many unused "clues" for that case, and oh boy, maybe that's the only case that can mind blowed me so good that makes me depressed
The suicuide was such an obvious red herring imo
It is hard because it's an unsolvable case that isn't realiant on a talent in the end, it's a well crafted plan without any holes in it.
chapter 4 of Sdr2 made me have a headache (not even joking) I was confused from start to end 💀
i still havent figured it out myself
@@mikadosannoji553 Gundham used the polygon section of the building, that was uniting the strawberry house below with the grape house above, to move freely. Because only someone who cleared the final death room would know this, the rest of the cast except Nagito had their perception of reality wrong, they thought both houses were across each other, only connected through an elevator, and not in the way you can use it going through the polygon.
That was the gist of it, Gundham used his advantage on reality perception, knowing the true layout of the building, thanks to Nagito also solving the final death room, the rest could deduct things going forward, if not, Gundham would've won. In the end the final proof of his involvement as killer was his own alibi, he wanted to reach his room, but Fuyuhiko was sitting in the way and thus thwarted his alibi, when the morning alarm went off, he had to reunite with fuyu and kazuichi or he would be suspicious, but that was a contradiction, because his room was one of those sound-proof, so by "hearing the alarm", it was proved that he wasn't in his room, and thus he was the killer, he had to do it like this because Nagito also was in a sound-proof room and they had to go get him because he couldn't hear the alarm himself, so if they went to get Gundham and not see him there, 3 people would've known he was the killer from the start.
@@MrSasukeSusanoonow i get it, thanks
0:54
Words are unable to describe the RAGE and ANGER I felt when Mondo mentioned the color of the sweater.
Mondo is my favorite character of the entire series, and literally the only flaw he did was mention THE COLOR. OF A JERSEY. I got MAD AS HELL😭 I played the game like 3 years ago and at that time there wasnt a day where i didnt think about how Mondo would have survided by not saying a color. I hate everything.
Gonta's should be wayyyy lower he was the only person who could have possibly done it!
Mondo actually got called goofy ahh 4’10 kid wacker💀 0:37
6:28 "I like your funny words, magic man."
2:37 i don't understand Someone kills herself,an innocent person gets voted and the laptop end up getting killed
Kokichi you did well in making the most unsolvable murder in danganrona
Imo Mikan and Peko were really obvious. Gonta also cause you can just use process of elimination
I actually agree with this list! I haven’t seen many accurate lists and one of my friends thought that the Hiyoko and Ibuki case was the hardest💀
leon was the hardest case dare i say
I'd say top 3 is Kokichi, Kaito and Gundham if you exclude the trials
@@omoro1893 I agree
@@mikadosannoji553 may I ask why? :)
@@Wandahoiiiiiiii i require no explanation for why his case was the most difficult to solve in the trilogy of the games
The thing with the seesaw effect that makes it immediately clear who yhe murderer is is that since murder was commited via elaborate conraptiin setup in that room obviously one that proposed for group to head there is going to be prime suspect
Also, if there were two killers, it's mighty difficult for anyone to know someone wants to solve the case using such complex seance, not even the "first" killer would have a plan for that because they would need to perfectly predict korekiyo wanted to do this or just plainly know the future, so by knowing kiyo was the killer of the 2nd victim, he was also the 1st victim's, because no one can really do a 2nd murder in those probabilistically impossible circumstances.
Mikans was the most difficult to solve since she developed super speed
Literally all Shuichi had to say is that there's no evidence to say that Kokichi pretended to drink the antidote and no evidence to support Kokichi and Kaito's swap. There was no evidence, so it would be more likely that it was faked to arrive at the wrong conclusion, thus still remaining at a stalemate. Also imagine if Kokichi died of the poison before the press crushed him meaning Maki was the blackened? There's just so many points that could have led to Kokichi's plan working. Then he would've succeeded in misleading Monokuma, I believe. Shuichi himself wasn't even sure Kaito was the culprit, and the whole claim standed on baseless conjecture without any evidence. But if I'm wrong, correct me.
I dont think kaito had any means of winning. He was bound to sacrifice himself like gundham
The kokichi's plan was so complex that even the monokuma couldn't understand and solve it
0:12 that wasnt a mistake i noticed it like a stick of butter
nagito plan is impossible to solve if the case was done by literally anybody else lol
Sayakas case is only easy for english players and those who can read it well, we need to remember all these characters are japanese, plus, some people can speak a language but not read it, or vice versa, its really just a case of a localization issue making it easier for another audience
0:32 tbf how would he erase it the water was turned off
Just use Sayaka's blood and scribble on the evidence?
Amazing video but you forgot the last crime in the first game the (junko)crime, i don't know any rank it will be but that crime takes place before the first crime and get solved in the end of the game so i think it deserves some credits here
To this day, I can’t look at 10:37 the same way
5:24 You forgot one key thing working in Teruteru's favor
On the bone meat.
as far as Kaito/Kokichi. All obscuring from even Monokuma, all obscuring of the truth, all obscuring of details. Kokichi's plan was absolutely solid, and would have proved exactly how corrupt this system could be. The simple fact the victim was working alongside the killer to do this was what really sealed it as unsolvable.
The victim masterminded his own death by convincing someone to kill him under the perfect scenario. But the biggest thing was the end goal wasn't Kaito winning. It was proving the game was a sham, and that they can lie about what happened purely for those watching. Shuichi got very close, realized 'wait if this IS right, why did it go down this way', came to the conclusion of them trying to bust the game, and steer it away from his conclusions. Kaito was afraid that Monokuma would accept that deduction before the re-steer, and confessed, saving their lives.
But the pure icing? Kaito lived his dream and then died before he could be properly executed, giving Monokuma the absolute biggest middle finger in the entire franchise. Not even Junko/Monokuma being bested in prior games was as big a middle finger.
True #1: sdra2-3… that case was literally bonkers
no frr sdra2 3 gave me a headache.
for me it was mostly because i dont understand korean
If mondo would've kept quiet then he would've graduated.
Also something I would like to point out abt the Angie-Tenko case idk if it was just me but it should’ve been obvious that they both had the same killed bc they both have the same fatal wound. That whole trial was pissing me off bc I knew that they had the same killer.
I was crying when Maki was confessing her feelings to Kaito before he died :(
dangan 1, well I watched the anime first so playing the game, I already knew what was going to happen, but I suppose the fake mukuro death in ch.5 could've been difficult with no prior knowledge.
dangan 2, idk if it was because it was summer and the heat melted my braincells, the case, or both, but man I was so lost and trying to figure out how those houses worked before knowing about the connection through the polygon. Special mention: in ch.5 I honestly thought it was Sonya because she showed interest in the occult and dark things like that, I thought that kind of kill on Nagito would've been her.
dangan 3, all easy to figure out, the hard part actually was that I was so far ahead of the game that I often got stuck because I didn't know how to piece together something per the game's story rather than my own reasoning, or sometimes, the answer is very convoluted in some section of the class trial whereas I thought of something way more simple.
If my ass were ever to be in danganropa/part of the killing game, I can confirm we are not creative.
hide the body in a place where people wont find it until it starts to smell, most of the info and alibis during the murder will be forgotten by everyone
the tube would've been fine, but it's the glove fabric that threw her off and exposed her the most.
I ironically never looked so much at her avatar, and before the class trial when everyone reunites, I saw that the black part of her dress was kind of asymetrical and thought the black fabric came from her skirt. Right for the wrong reason I guess.
I always found it dumb Kirumi didn't come back after night time ended to pick up the evidence
Pre-video: definitely Nagito’s crime is really top tier because his rode on his luck and was literally designed to make the culprit impossible to find by any normal means. They had no guarantee that his luck worked, so they essentially gambled since it was more likely that Chiaki was the killer than any other individual student. And even Chiaki couldn’t know whether or not she did it.
Same with Kokichi’s case where it’s actually impossible to know what he died from first. It’s possible even Kaito didn’t know bc Kokichi could’ve died from the poison BEFORE the press came down on him. But the point of his plan is to have the victim be unknowable, which is why Monokuma gets away with declaring Kaito the culprit (even though Maki could totally be the culprit).
2:25 arguably I think Korekiyo should be at the lowest spot possible. Him choosing to kill a second student in such an obvious way that also links him to his other crime is truly a masterclass in idiocy.
9:18 eyyy yeah. Though the plan is really good, she could’ve been caught in ch1 so I understand
pov: you see this comment, and while reading it you soon realize that this comment is a waste of your time
The Kaede one still pisses me off cause her ball missed, she didn’t kill anyone
Tied Up ropes, no joke. Seasonal race, get us out of this place. Ain't the left route that I anticipated, probably means that I'm eliminated, yeaaah.
yooo I saw u on the obsession overdrive update vids
@@aizichi What do you mean? I am in the Obsession Overdrive Discord and follow the development, but what do you mean by when I was in one of the development videos?
Yo NPC, when's the next your turn to cry episode coming out? What's the progress like on it?
Props to danganronpa youtubers that use spoiler-free/misleading thumbnails for those that haven't played the games yet
Hearing "bakayuka" just killed me 😃👹🤩💀
In the gundham and mikan is so hard u are so true like bro there's too too many evidence and they are so tricky i couldn't even understand the case but thanks god i did it
0:32 so youre saying he killed a Twice member 😭
Why am I so proud abt Kokichis plan being the hardest trial case..
BUT KAITO MADE KOKICHI DIE FOR NO. REASON!!!
''the ultimate mom''
ahh yes I could agree with you for Kirumi
nah, all of it wouldve succeeded if the mc doesnt have an insane memory, he deadass remembered when celestia said something like " we'll end up like them " 😰😰😰
Also, just saying, if Kaito let Kokichi die of the poison first, and revealed himself in the end of the trial, the mastermind would be wrong too.
Who said Kokichi used an electrobomb that would disable the safety measure of the press?, him and Kaito?, that could be a lie and part of the plan, no one trusts kokichi, but they do trust Kaito, if he says they used an electrobomb, they'll believe it, for all we know even Maki could be the culprit, and we'll never know it because we can't see through the lies of kokichi, and we would easily believe kaito even if he lies just once.
@@MrSasukeSusanoo However, the electrobomb is needed to have the mastermind not know the true culprit. The entire point of the trick was to make the mastermind wrong.
Bruh he is saying goofy ahh words 💀
gundham literally just lost to some random gangster having insomnia
Super Danganronpa Another 2 Trial 3 is pure insanity and complex as hell.
Best trial in any Danganronpa
Honestly. I think no one can realistically solve that without Sora’s MC powers or Kokoro. I highly doubt even Kyoko could solve that. Especially if she has no knowledge of serial killers which was quite crucial knowledge from Syobai. Not to mention, Kanade still basically gave them the answer by not revealing that she was controlling Hibiki.
Kirumi tojo the ultimate mommy😭😭
I would flip the bottom 2 since the obvious “they’re Japanese, they wouldn’t recognize Leon in English immediately” but also that 1-2 was literally seen, whereas 1-1 wasn’t. Mondo had no chance, Leon did
Ok but like in the original game since they were in japan and the 11037 was in English it was harder to figure out it said Leon then in the English game.
I like how these are all “they had the perfect murder plan but…”