so the fall of the military in the twd universe is getting more interesting now, lack of communication from their high officials, lack of knowledge about the dead, insufficient amount of supplies and ammunition, hostile survivors, and rogue soldiers. man we really need to have a 16-part series that only focuses on the military perspective.
Frank Darabont wanted to do an entire mini series about the Fall of Atlanta which focus solely on the military and the tank zombie from the first episode...it would have been glorious.
Yep government followed orders i was right government forces military become hostiles ill order my clone corporation task force terminated them and rescue them
So... every Marine in the FOB(?) stood guns ready to kill these people in a single line and only ONE GUY was left guarding the place... right next to her as she shot her comrades and DIDN'T blow her brains out the second he saw her mow his brothers down? And NO ONE reacted to her shutting down the power???? How can the earlier scene be so good and THIS scene so... bad?
Everybody’s calling her a bad ass for killing her unit like she did something heroic, yes that was one of the most cold blooded things you could do killing your own teammates people you shared meals with and it’s not like they wanted to do it they were ordered too
@@kennethdunbar1042 The lack of information sucks the most. Sure, we can ASSUME the other Marines got overrun, maybe they got cornered and ran out of ammo, but given the fact that Huck and her partner figured things out so quickly and used their tools properly, and the Marines we see aren't THAT thinned down compared to that episode in Fear where a whole platoon of National Guardsmen enter a library and only three get out, we can assume they didn't get overrun. What bothers me more is how she just shut the power and all the Marines stand there, not moving, while she headshots them one by one on semi-auto... while no one reacts.
@@dfmrcv862 My whole thing is she’s shot all those Marines you telling me that not one of them we’re just badly injured. She didn’t have to finish any of them off. Were they all just head shots or something?
@@kennethdunbar1042 Yup. She didn't even bother with center mass (which would have been pointless given the Kevlar vests they wear). Maybe she got some lucky neck hits, but still, to hit ALL these guys, in the head, while they're wearing Kevlar helmets that have tanked 7.62mm rounds, using night vision equipment, and do it all so fast NO ONE REACTED... either plot armor or she's misremembering.
I may have served in a different branch, but I don't know any soldier who would follow such an order willingly. You don't target non-combatants, period. I don't say civilian because a civilian who picks up a gun or takes up a bomb with intent to become a threat is no longer a non-combatant. That whole squad should have told the superior to do it himself.
We've lived peacefully spoiled lives for so long that people seem to forget that conquering groups have been mass slaughtering the conquered since the beginning of time. When a real war breaks out (not this petty "human rights war" in the middle east) you'll see that you're no different.
Armies have been used against their own population for all of history, including in the USA. Soldiers shoot non-combattants all the time if the situation is bad enough and I think most soldiers are drilled and brainwashed enough that they wouldn't really question it.
@@georgenega9685 those Marines could just as easily be infected. Better to teach them how to fire a rifle and organize Militia's so they would be another asset and force multiplier. But then again I was an Airman not a Marine we were taught how to use crayons to color not use as a source of food.
I like they showed us the millitary perspective yes we have seen bits and pieces in the main show and fear but this really showed us what the millitary had to do to stop the spread but ended up failing
@@zerogamer935 there’s barely any military that we’ve seen so far the closest thing to a nationwide military is the crm and they wipe out cities for no reason
they are even more skitz like this the beginning of Fear the Walking Dead and it sincs up with the The walking Dead there are scenes in there that all line up with Cobalt. just awesome.
As a former Marine who was an infantryman with actual combat experience, no logical or sane warfighter would kill any American citizens unless in self defense. The show is however entertaining.
You were not a marine stop lying to yourself man. Even if you were what the fuck is wrong with you? Saying ending a heartbeat and memory’s is entertaining?
Militaries have been consistently used against their own population for all of history when things get bad enough. If it came down to an extreme scenario like the walking dead, I believe Marines / US army would do it too.
Jeez the horrible things that the military did during the start of the apocalypse compared to what I saw what the military did on the other walking dead shows it just shows that the military had to take drastic action against the pandemic on fear the us national guard completely went on a civil war with the us armed forces and the rest of the shows they just completely destroyed and carpet bombed cities infected and non infected people man I gotta say this is horrific through her perspective as a soldier I’m the military
@@john5189 there was a mention of that happening in fear the walking dead where Althea has a tape called the bog where she mentions that the army and that national guard are shooting each other from different directions
Yeah that carpet bombing and napalming only made the problem worse, because at first there were like few hundreds, and after that there were thousands of walkers roaming making problem 100 times worse, every civilian that died in the fire or blowback would come back.
@@multifantv1245 Impossible, with every soldiers they got on the entire country some of them eventually not agree to this order and they make theirs owns decisions by emotion
“Sir, with all due respect, I did not sign up for this. We’re supposed to protect civilians, not gun down innocent people! There’s a choice here! We can still save these people! Isn’t that what Marines do? Isn’t it what soldiers do? To protect the man next to you and protect the people? (Stern tone) I am not going to shoot civilians. For all we know, they just want to get someplace safe, they got families out there too! Wasn’t that our mission, to save people? Isn’t that why we’re here in the first place? We were sent in for a rescue mission, and I’m pretty sure this ain’t it.”
At that point her teammates weren’t marines they were flat out traitors they took an oath to protect And they betrayed that oath their traitors in my eyes 🤷♂️
@@Sellot91 its a moral challenge for sure. Do you save people who are probably going to die anyways and quite possibly be eating your face tomorrow by killing your friends/family who have a higher chance of surviving. Or do you kill the people eliminating the risk of more zombies and move on with trying to survive. Its not really as black and white as it may seem
Best scene? This was the stupidest scene. The odds that only one marine would refuse to shoot is laughable. The majority of the squad would refuse with the "the cant charge us all mentality." I hate when movies and shows portray soldiers as heartless brainwashed robots, but somehow one of them not only refuses orders but actually starts to fight against them. Finn was a great example of this. These stormtroopers were actually brainwashed but somehow this one dude is like "shoot innocents? Nah fam".
Tbh in a shitty situation like this, most orders to kill, clean sweep civilians would be executed without hesitation if it means saving others.. but that’s in a FUBAR case scenario like as in the human race is almost extinct type of Situation. Minus the feminist BS this scene portrayed the killings would happen. Believe me. The only good news is, lots of personnel wouldn’t follow those orders, but many still would, especially those that lost everything and have nothing to lose.
Also surely more soldiers then just her had to be like “no we can’t do this. This is wrong.” Cause if I was in the Military and my whole unit agreed with those orders I’d probably do the same thing she did. You join the military to protect your country not kill innocent civilians. Also the guy said “I’m a marine. I don’t know what the hell you are.” She is way more of a marine then he was. Agreeing to those orders??
My whole issue originally with the walking dead when it was just The Walking Dead was the idea that the military wouldn't have just napalm-ed the absolute hell out of a city or have fought off such easily killable zombies (as opposed to World War Z zombies which would've been hilariously harder to handle). Fear and World Beyond really makes the fall of the military and destruction of the country far easier to understand or at the very least accept the idea of.
How does Huck go from being a soldier killing other soldiers to protect a group of civilians, to a spy for the CRM and Elizabeth’s daughter. Shits getting real interesting now.
This on a real note is something the army will probably be told to if a situation like that arose where they are essentially told to kill a few hundred thousand people because the belief is that it would slow down and make it easier to control a massive zombie outbreak especially fast ones I think they do something like that in the second 28 days later movie because it becomes strategically compromising to not shoot the civilians.
The lieutenant made a big mistakes to kill the civilians, even they are not infected and sick.The military have no other choice but to do, so at least one marine can stop them.
The flashback of the military with Huck was interesting, so when the things were bad in the hospitals and in the streets, the goverment call everyone even the soldiers who were out of service or in rest. So Huck and his unit from the beginning they were send to rescue civilians, what is amazing is seeing the walker temperature, so like every dead person the body is always cold, so when the things got real bad, what was left of the national guard, they order to abandon or execute civilians. Just what happen with operation" wildfire and operation Cobalt". In the end security is always first, i believe those orders come from the politics that were still alive, good that Huck make that decision to rescue the survivors, with sailas is too bad that he killed Tony, it was a good character, and good that percy escape, just for being jealous, he will do that?!, i said "what did you do sailas?!" well here is when the real problems will start.
Eh, this is a little more gray. Yes, she saved innocent lives. But she also murdered her fellow marines in cold blood. Marines that she called allies and friends. Allies that trusted her with their lives the same way she trusted her life with theirs. She gained Karma for saving people. But she lost Karma by killing her brothers.
U.S army lost in Vietnam mostly to untrained farmers in secluded villages who never even heard of things like guns, let alone hold and use one. And these walkers only die with a shot in the head, so yeah, i can see how quickly they would fail.
She killed her brothers. She killed Marines that also disagreed the orders but knew it had to be done. She did it without remorse as well and that’s disgusting.
@@ethanmiller9253 is just fiction in real life she would be the first one to shoot at the civs and killed them later for making her doing so, just women nature never accepting reality blaming someone else for her mistakes
To be fair that's probably a much more merciful fate for the squad than if they had gone through with it, all those freshly raised zombies pushing through the gate and devouring the panicking soldiers. The mass execution protocols were making everything worse because apparently the notifications to drop them with a headshot never made it.
So stupid. No honest Marine, Sailor, Soldier, or Airman would willing follow those unlawful orders. Neither would they just off their friends and fellow comrades so easily. I honestly don't get how they manage to mess the military up more and more in this series. Like the premise is interesting, the execution just lacks knowledge
As someone that is a marine.. 1. These orders wouldn’t be followed. 2. I fucking promise you nobody in my squad is gonna be fucking shooting us.. personally I thought the scene was silly in that aspect.. you don’t just decide to FF your entire fucking squad.. like what? Then again it’s a tv show so whatever.
I can’t wait to read the comments and see what civilians know about what would have really happened here because their mother’s brothers dads girlfriends father was in the Military.
Lmao that's not how military training works 🤣 she mightive had the drop on a couple of em but she would've been flocked before she got through the squad.
zero felt recoil from her M4 rifle and 100percent CGI of those ejected spent bullet casings, she must of took out her fellow Marines with the new recoilless laser guns.
I like how the General said , “ I don’t like this anymore than you do.” yet he picked up a rifle willing to put down those civilians. He couldn’t resist Central Command’s order and say his marines won’t go through with the order? Take your chances when you get court marshaled or flee! If they actually went through with the order they would be breaking their oaths to the constitution.
A room filled with marines, and she suddenly went into DOOM mode and slaughtered them all without any kind of resistance? Man, I have nothing against soldiers deserting, but this was silly as hell. You tell me they all ignored a clearly unstable ally that is armed and openly stands against them? They are all blindly loyal fanatics too, so there is no way they would just go: "Huh, go stand on the edge of rank with your weapon, don't worry we are braindead". It would be better if she would refuse to follow order. Rest would comply. She is then arrested, and while she is at the cell, Walkers break inside of the compound. Using the distraction, she manages to get out, and either runs away, or kills any of the marines that took part in this.
if yous remember a soldier got into his tank and went to get his bro in TWD he was at the prison. Prob also how the soldiers couldnt contain what was happening half the army legged it
To be fair what would you really expect the army to do in this situation? The walkers are multiplying at a frightening rate. Soldiers and the higher ups are probably scared as hell and at that point logic is out the window. These guys are only thinking about surviving.
So the marines were just chillin as they got gunned down one after the other they legit just stood there In reality the apocalypse would have ended day one but the Walking dead needs to be as milked as possible before ending
In reality the apocalypse would end quickly yes since (I can guarantee you its physically impossible for everyone to catch it at once), or at least that's what I would have said one year ago. Now I'm not so sure, considering how out of control covid 19 has gotten. thanks to politics, retards that feel their rights are more important than others lives, and misinformation, the entire world has to deal with a deadly virus that we can never be fully immunized to, let alone cured.
This is why I was so confused when it turned out that she was a bad guy. Something like this is not the act of an evil person. Just the opposite actually. And as it turns out, she really ISN'T a bad guy she's shown a lot of remorse for the stuff that she's done and she's been helping the good guys to defeat the CRM.
You can’t be brought on charges for refusing orders like that, and that one guy wouldn’t be acting like it’s an order from god. Don’t bother arguing with me
these sunset protocols and the stadiums filled with people cost all the dead walking out there. because they probably shooted them dead but not in the head and in the stadiums they mixed bitten and unbitten und boom we get out of controll scenario
Orders mean nothing after the world goes to hell. What charges could they bring you up on. Follow your own orders when the world turns its back on the people you live to protect
The US isn't a signatory to every single one of the Geneva Conventions, although no Marine that I have ever served with or met would go with shooting civilians like that, especially not Americans. The whole "Robot" stigma we have isn't true we have minds of our own.
Ok killing your own civ's is really fucking stupide even during a zombie survival. Yes their is risk that needs to be taken care of but when they are, civs can be a recruiting pool for new solders or produce you supplies as well as be a workforce. Killing them gets you neither plus more hostility from survives causing you to have more enemies when you could of have allies meaning more resources will have to be expelled when you could of gain them instead.
The last marine Huck killed was actually smart and capable of surviving an apocalypse long enough cause hasn't he has given the idea of killing the once showing in thermal images with heat signature was great presence of mind. Or else huck could have killed civilians too. Too shame he died early.
I like the WWZ version better where the government just abandoned the people. I don't think service members would do that because they would also have families. For once I'd like the military represented at least semi competently.
This virus is physically impossible in our world. It is unconstitutional to harm let alone have protocols that sponsor the killing of civilians. All 4 branches of the military would handle this situation better irl, unless its covid. Covid was a failure of communication and enforcement.
I don't get it. This scene is suppose to make Huck look like the heroic good person but yet the VERY next episode we find out she's with the CRM, then later kills percy's uncle, shoot percy, cuts felix leg and almost kills him
This is why I was so confused when it turned out that she was a bad guy. Something like this is not the act of an evil person. Just the opposite actually. And as it turns out, she really ISN'T a bad guy she's shown a lot of remorse for the stuff that she's done and she's been helping the good guys to defeat the CRM.
This is why I was so confused when it turned out that she was a bad guy. Something like this is not the act of an evil person. Just the opposite actually. And as it turns out, she really ISN'T a bad guy she's shown a lot of remorse for the stuff that she's done and she's been helping the good guys to defeat the CRM.
this is what the military did in the hospital in the walking dead thats why shane wasn't able to take rick
Exactly, same with the marines in Fear.
@@DedricSilva yep and it shows that they had no choice but HUCK saved the day
You know that the military is kill only the sick people in the hospital. And save the ones that not sick
@@jasonthehunters2919 The military are just paranoid trigger-happy murderers.
@@philipcearley1992 Damn you're a pathetic excuse of a man saying shit like that. You know this is a TV show right buddy?
so the fall of the military in the twd universe is getting more interesting now, lack of communication from their high officials, lack of knowledge about the dead, insufficient amount of supplies and ammunition, hostile survivors, and rogue soldiers. man we really need to have a 16-part series that only focuses on the military perspective.
Man that would be amazing!!! Cause I always wondered how the military failed at containing the virus and this does explain a lot!!!
Foreal.
Frank Darabont wanted to do an entire mini series about the Fall of Atlanta which focus solely on the military and the tank zombie from the first episode...it would have been glorious.
@@seventythreedavid that really would have been absolutely amazing!!!
The fall of the military in the twd universe is because of the moslty snowflakes audience.
I can't believe i'm making this joke.
President: The Time has come. Execute Order 66!
Army: Yes my lord.
Star wars
Yep government followed orders i was right government forces military become hostiles ill order my clone corporation task force terminated them and rescue them
“Good soldier follows order”
@HAPPYSEBAS11 “Antz”
Those are marines, not army
As soon as she shot her own squad I was just like “HOLY SHIT!”
RIGHT
No hesitation
Sometimes you gotta betray people you know to do the right.
Her squad turns into monsters. SHe put down those ex-marines at it should be.
She's not in the right mind set they do what it takes to save the world. sometimes to save a life you have to take one
"Would you have kept your oath then?"
-Jamie Lannister
yes
Yes
No
100% no hesitation
Speaking as a former Airman hell no.
So... every Marine in the FOB(?) stood guns ready to kill these people in a single line and only ONE GUY was left guarding the place... right next to her as she shot her comrades and DIDN'T blow her brains out the second he saw her mow his brothers down? And NO ONE reacted to her shutting down the power????
How can the earlier scene be so good and THIS scene so... bad?
Yeah. It's weird.
Everybody’s calling her a bad ass for killing her unit like she did something heroic, yes that was one of the most cold blooded things you could do killing your own teammates people you shared meals with and it’s not like they wanted to do it they were ordered too
@@kennethdunbar1042 The lack of information sucks the most.
Sure, we can ASSUME the other Marines got overrun, maybe they got cornered and ran out of ammo, but given the fact that Huck and her partner figured things out so quickly and used their tools properly, and the Marines we see aren't THAT thinned down compared to that episode in Fear where a whole platoon of National Guardsmen enter a library and only three get out, we can assume they didn't get overrun.
What bothers me more is how she just shut the power and all the Marines stand there, not moving, while she headshots them one by one on semi-auto... while no one reacts.
@@dfmrcv862 My whole thing is she’s shot all those Marines you telling me that not one of them we’re just badly injured. She didn’t have to finish any of them off. Were they all just head shots or something?
@@kennethdunbar1042 Yup.
She didn't even bother with center mass (which would have been pointless given the Kevlar vests they wear). Maybe she got some lucky neck hits, but still, to hit ALL these guys, in the head, while they're wearing Kevlar helmets that have tanked 7.62mm rounds, using night vision equipment, and do it all so fast NO ONE REACTED... either plot armor or she's misremembering.
Idk why. But all of the military scenes in this episode reminded me of the earlier seasons of Fear
0:52 Old Fear intro?
Probably because early seasons of Fear involved military?
I may have served in a different branch, but I don't know any soldier who would follow such an order willingly. You don't target non-combatants, period. I don't say civilian because a civilian who picks up a gun or takes up a bomb with intent to become a threat is no longer a non-combatant. That whole squad should have told the superior to do it himself.
We've lived peacefully spoiled lives for so long that people seem to forget that conquering groups have been mass slaughtering the conquered since the beginning of time. When a real war breaks out (not this petty "human rights war" in the middle east) you'll see that you're no different.
@@bobmcham5192 These weren't the conquered tho, these were their fellow Americans.
Armies have been used against their own population for all of history, including in the USA. Soldiers shoot non-combattants all the time if the situation is bad enough and I think most soldiers are drilled and brainwashed enough that they wouldn't really question it.
They could be infected and turn into zombies. Zombies = combatants.
@@georgenega9685 those Marines could just as easily be infected. Better to teach them how to fire a rifle and organize Militia's so they would be another asset and force multiplier. But then again I was an Airman not a Marine we were taught how to use crayons to color not use as a source of food.
I like they showed us the millitary perspective yes we have seen bits and pieces in the main show and fear but this really showed us what the millitary had to do to stop the spread but ended up failing
It's like they took advantage of the outbreak to exterminate the people who are deemed "Weak" and worthless" in society.
The military is the only hope to save humanity I’m glad theirs still soldiers out there tryna find a cure
@@zerogamer935 there’s barely any military that we’ve seen so far the closest thing to a nationwide military is the crm and they wipe out cities for no reason
Why u dont put disobedient people in the marines
they are even more skitz like this the beginning of Fear the Walking Dead and it sincs up with the The walking Dead there are scenes in there that all line up with Cobalt. just awesome.
As a former Marine who was an infantryman with actual combat experience, no logical or sane warfighter would kill any American citizens unless in self defense. The show is however entertaining.
You were not a marine stop lying to yourself man. Even if you were what the fuck is wrong with you? Saying ending a heartbeat and memory’s is entertaining?
@@dylanschermerhorn3509 go about your business numb nuts. Learn to read.
@@gardennovice7896 aight bud I will but don’t lie to yourself
@@dylanschermerhorn3509 go reread the original comment. Either you misunderstood the comment or you are behavior health.
Militaries have been consistently used against their own population for all of history when things get bad enough. If it came down to an extreme scenario like the walking dead, I believe Marines / US army would do it too.
Jeez the horrible things that the military did during the start of the apocalypse compared to what I saw what the military did on the other walking dead shows it just shows that the military had to take drastic action against the pandemic on fear the us national guard completely went on a civil war with the us armed forces and the rest of the shows they just completely destroyed and carpet bombed cities infected and non infected people man I gotta say this is horrific through her perspective as a soldier I’m the military
I can’t believe I’m making this joke as I wanted to since Fear, but here goes.
Execute Order 66!
Wtf why would the National Guard do that
@@john5189 there was a mention of that happening in fear the walking dead where Althea has a tape called the bog where she mentions that the army and that national guard are shooting each other from different directions
Yeah that carpet bombing and napalming only made the problem worse, because at first there were like few hundreds, and after that there were thousands of walkers roaming making problem 100 times worse, every civilian that died in the fire or blowback would come back.
@@john5189 Because marines and army were executing everybody outside save zones.
Best scene of the show till now.
And unrealistic
Agree
@@kidjustice7945 Nothing unrealistic about it. She cut the power, turned on her night vision and gunned them all down.
@@kidjustice7945 well the military made those orders in the original walking dead show.
@@multifantv1245 Impossible, with every soldiers they got on the entire country some of them eventually not agree to this order and they make theirs owns decisions by emotion
So her name is Jennifer? Interesting.
Yeah. Huck is just her pseudonym.
A true marine knows that his main mission above all is to protect people and not attack them
If only things were so black and white
Exactly. Not all heroes wear capes
A true marine wouldn't execute every other marine they come across :) dog shit writing just to try and give us another "strong independent women"
@@slayerr4365It wasn’t to give us a “strong independent woman”. Watch TWOL, it was the setup to explain the CRMs existence.
sad some in the comment section dont understand that.
“Sir, with all due respect, I did not sign up for this. We’re supposed to protect civilians, not gun down innocent people! There’s a choice here! We can still save these people! Isn’t that what Marines do? Isn’t it what soldiers do? To protect the man next to you and protect the people? (Stern tone) I am not going to shoot civilians. For all we know, they just want to get someplace safe, they got families out there too! Wasn’t that our mission, to save people? Isn’t that why we’re here in the first place? We were sent in for a rescue mission, and I’m pretty sure this ain’t it.”
Sometimes kill them as well. It depends on the orders.
Can't rescue people when they're already dead
So you want to join the horde, well suit yourself:
Proceed to push you into the horde
:3, take care of your face.
No sane marine would turn their rifle onto to their brothers and sisters in arms.
those orders were completely unrealistic.
No sane marine would murder innocent civilians when ordered to. Were one of the marines killing kids in Vietnam?
At that point her teammates weren’t marines they were flat out traitors they took an oath to protect And they betrayed that oath their traitors in my eyes 🤷♂️
@@Sellot91 its a moral challenge for sure. Do you save people who are probably going to die anyways and quite possibly be eating your face tomorrow by killing your friends/family who have a higher chance of surviving. Or do you kill the people eliminating the risk of more zombies and move on with trying to survive. Its not really as black and white as it may seem
This has to be around the same time Shane is in the hospital trying to save Rick and the army comes into the hospital and starts killing everyone!!
Yep
Best scene? This was the stupidest scene. The odds that only one marine would refuse to shoot is laughable. The majority of the squad would refuse with the "the cant charge us all mentality." I hate when movies and shows portray soldiers as heartless brainwashed robots, but somehow one of them not only refuses orders but actually starts to fight against them. Finn was a great example of this. These stormtroopers were actually brainwashed but somehow this one dude is like "shoot innocents? Nah fam".
Probably wanted to make the fact that she's actually evil a surprise by throwing this in
Tbh in a shitty situation like this, most orders to kill, clean sweep civilians would be executed without hesitation if it means saving others.. but that’s in a FUBAR case scenario like as in the human race is almost extinct type of Situation. Minus the feminist BS this scene portrayed the killings would happen. Believe me. The only good news is, lots of personnel wouldn’t follow those orders, but many still would, especially those that lost everything and have nothing to lose.
@@BleedingEyes666 like covid
She is so badass her M4 does not have recoil
Because it barely does irl, for a trained marine at least
@@Birtheater4545 Look at it closely, it doesn´t even move
@@viktorstrecko685 I did notice that. Most likely overlooked during editing, but really irl m4s have moderate to little recoil.
That’s an M27 not an M4 Carbine
@@NonchalantENG Its a M4, the M27 looks like HKs too famous 416s
Also surely more soldiers then just her had to be like “no we can’t do this. This is wrong.” Cause if I was in the Military and my whole unit agreed with those orders I’d probably do the same thing she did. You join the military to protect your country not kill innocent civilians. Also the guy said “I’m a marine. I don’t know what the hell you are.” She is way more of a marine then he was. Agreeing to those orders??
Well they learned that everyone was already infected, and probably knew it was gonna get worse.
Obviously if you can kill your own marines like that you ain't got a heart eitheir. They are your batch
@@kidjustice7945 Imao they are idiots for killing innocents
I think it was fear. No body knew what was going on, Huck couldn’t and wouldn’t t do it. This was a badass scene
@@g.t2231 they deserved to die. So yes, I agree with you.
So operation Cobalt
No , protocols and ops are different.
1:25 gives me chills
My whole issue originally with the walking dead when it was just The Walking Dead was the idea that the military wouldn't have just napalm-ed the absolute hell out of a city or have fought off such easily killable zombies (as opposed to World War Z zombies which would've been hilariously harder to handle). Fear and World Beyond really makes the fall of the military and destruction of the country far easier to understand or at the very least accept the idea of.
FTWD season 1 has only one right explanation for the fall of the military and civilization since the outbreak begin.
Totally ridiculous. This actress just Chews the scenery. This character is the most ridiculous one
I think you and I have a different understanding of “this character chewed the scenery” 😂
A solider follows orders but a true solider follows their heart well done Huck I know it was tough but you had to save them they weren't infected
I would have said "I'm a marine and I don't know what the hell these Sunset protocol orders are".
thats fucked up, imagine the usefulness of a dozen marines vs some random civilians
Innocent civilians*
No one was able to shoot back, because she is a woman and the power of the plot.
"I'm a Marine, I don't know what the hell you are."
Shes a goddamned hero that's what she is.
Yeah little do you know in the latest episode it is revealed she is Elizabeths daughters and works for the CRM as a spy
How does ryan Christie feel now about Huck... lmao you all never listen
How does Huck go from being a soldier killing other soldiers to protect a group of civilians, to a spy for the CRM and Elizabeth’s daughter. Shits getting real interesting now.
Congratulations to her hahahaha kill her brothers to save people who will be dead in 2 days
@@dorgyamtso4830 watching this episode was fantastic it really reminded me of another person and show called Agents of shield.
This on a real note is something the army will probably be told to if a situation like that arose where they are essentially told to kill a few hundred thousand people because the belief is that it would slow down and make it easier to control a massive zombie outbreak especially fast ones I think they do something like that in the second 28 days later movie because it becomes strategically compromising to not shoot the civilians.
Real marines disobey morally wrong orders
And, i bet, real marines simply don`t get shot by a single national guards girlscout.
@@bubbafat9296 that too
@@bubbafat9296 shes a marine but Ight
The lieutenant made a big mistakes to kill the civilians, even they are not infected and sick.The military have no other choice but to do, so at least one marine can stop them.
Huck became my second favorite just now 😁
Whos ur fav?
@@fluffehpancakes1102 Probably Felix. xd
Who your favorite now because she’s a spy
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@@decydoo8794 Elton
Major General Beale gave this order
This is the dumbest way they could have showed mutiny. This would probably never happen in irl
What sane marine would turn their rifle on innocent civilians that would never happen IRL BUT it’s a show so I’ll let it slide
Hey do you have the full clip of the crm shootout with Silas and Dennis helping out?
The flashback of the military with Huck was interesting, so when the things were bad in the hospitals and in the streets, the goverment call everyone even the soldiers who were out of service or in rest. So Huck and his unit from the beginning they were send to rescue civilians, what is amazing is seeing the walker temperature, so like every dead person the body is always cold, so when the things got real bad, what was left of the national guard, they order to abandon or execute civilians. Just what happen with operation" wildfire and operation Cobalt". In the end security is always first, i believe those orders come from the politics that were still alive, good that Huck make that decision to rescue the survivors, with sailas is too bad that he killed Tony, it was a good character, and good that percy escape, just for being jealous, he will do that?!, i said "what did you do sailas?!" well here is when the real problems will start.
On baby this was a cold scene.
In no world people would stand still let themselves get shot the plot armor is crazy
1:40 Anyone remember when recoil was a thing?
SCould plz upload the scene unloading the truck, crm map scene and tony wants to join the group 3 scenes in world beyond 1x07.?
Good soldiers follow orders
Save the Innocent - "You've gained Karma!" 😇
Execute the Innocent - "You've lost Karma!" 👿
Me as a marine save the innocent
True save innocent civilization
Eh, this is a little more gray. Yes, she saved innocent lives. But she also murdered her fellow marines in cold blood. Marines that she called allies and friends. Allies that trusted her with their lives the same way she trusted her life with theirs.
She gained Karma for saving people.
But she lost Karma by killing her brothers.
It’s weird how not a single marine moved an inch when the lights went off or when she started firing
U.S army lost in Vietnam mostly to untrained farmers in secluded villages who never even heard of things like guns, let alone hold and use one. And these walkers only die with a shot in the head, so yeah, i can see how quickly they would fail.
Pretty nonchalant reaction of her buddy after she mowed down their squad
you go woke you go broken
She is not a true Marine
Killing people ain't right if they are not infected she made the right choice
She killed her brothers. She killed Marines that also disagreed the orders but knew it had to be done. She did it without remorse as well and that’s disgusting.
@@ethanmiller9253 is just fiction in real life she would be the first one to shoot at the civs and killed them later for making her doing so, just women nature never accepting reality blaming someone else for her mistakes
To be fair that's probably a much more merciful fate for the squad than if they had gone through with it, all those freshly raised zombies pushing through the gate and devouring the panicking soldiers. The mass execution protocols were making everything worse because apparently the notifications to drop them with a headshot never made it.
At the same time the military base in LA is in retreat and Sunset protocal commences in Atlanta and Omaha.
And then BOOM!!!💥💥💥
So stupid. No honest Marine, Sailor, Soldier, or Airman would willing follow those unlawful orders. Neither would they just off their friends and fellow comrades so easily. I honestly don't get how they manage to mess the military up more and more in this series.
Like the premise is interesting, the execution just lacks knowledge
Those marines must of been afk or some shit if they all got it like that
As someone that is a marine.. 1. These orders wouldn’t be followed. 2. I fucking promise you nobody in my squad is gonna be fucking shooting us.. personally I thought the scene was silly in that aspect..
you don’t just decide to FF your entire fucking squad.. like what? Then again it’s a tv show so whatever.
I can’t wait to read the comments and see what civilians know about what would have really happened here because their mother’s brothers dads girlfriends father was in the Military.
I like to think if I was in that situation I would react the same way she did in that scene
She still just murdered men following orders
We don't abandoned one of our own
Lmao that's not how military training works 🤣 she mightive had the drop on a couple of em but she would've been flocked before she got through the squad.
Also managed to hit them in the perfect location every time where their helmet wasn't protecting them and none of them managed even to look at her.
zero felt recoil from her M4 rifle and 100percent CGI of those ejected spent bullet casings, she must of took out her fellow Marines with the new recoilless laser guns.
I like how the General said , “ I don’t like this anymore than you do.” yet he picked up a rifle willing to put down those civilians. He couldn’t resist Central Command’s order and say his marines won’t go through with the order? Take your chances when you get court marshaled or flee! If they actually went through with the order they would be breaking their oaths to the constitution.
Actually, alot of soldiers rejected the Sunset Protocol.
A room filled with marines, and she suddenly went into DOOM mode and slaughtered them all without any kind of resistance? Man, I have nothing against soldiers deserting, but this was silly as hell. You tell me they all ignored a clearly unstable ally that is armed and openly stands against them? They are all blindly loyal fanatics too, so there is no way they would just go: "Huh, go stand on the edge of rank with your weapon, don't worry we are braindead".
It would be better if she would refuse to follow order. Rest would comply. She is then arrested, and while she is at the cell, Walkers break inside of the compound. Using the distraction, she manages to get out, and either runs away, or kills any of the marines that took part in this.
Name of music in the end of video?
if yous remember a soldier got into his tank and went to get his bro in TWD he was at the prison. Prob also how the soldiers couldnt contain what was happening half the army legged it
It’d be pretty hard for the army to stay in one piece after a while because half of them wouldn’t even be able to contact their higher ups
This whole backstory is complete bullshit, can’t believe it she was one of my favorite characters
This just made me like her, I felt the show was boring and this was a twist
Why did none of the marines react to getting shot at?
To be fair what would you really expect the army to do in this situation? The walkers are multiplying at a frightening rate. Soldiers and the higher ups are probably scared as hell and at that point logic is out the window. These guys are only thinking about surviving.
Huke is Elizabeth's daughter and she was a marine. So my theory is that the CRM has started by the remaining military components of the US Army
Marine: Sir, we can’t just kill civilians!!!
Officer: Oh, there not civilians! There infected! Orders are orders I’m afraid!
And now we know Huck's actions were nirrored by Okafor from TOWL.
This was an allusion to how the CRM was formed: Pennsylvanian National Guard vs the military trying to liquidate people by order of the government.
So the marines were just chillin as they got gunned down one after the other they legit just stood there
In reality the apocalypse would have ended day one but the Walking dead needs to be as milked as possible before ending
Its called fiction for a reason
She kicked out the lights. She was the only one with night vision.
@@Christinaidesigns but they didnt react at all not even flinched they just stood like firing range dummies
@@kennethjacinto6977 Fiction doesn't excuse garbage writing, come on. Marines didn't even react to the light turning off or that shots were fired.
In reality the apocalypse would end quickly yes since (I can guarantee you its physically impossible for everyone to catch it at once), or at least that's what I would have said one year ago. Now I'm not so sure, considering how out of control covid 19 has gotten. thanks to politics, retards that feel their rights are more important than others lives, and misinformation, the entire world has to deal with a deadly virus that we can never be fully immunized to, let alone cured.
This is why I was so confused when it turned out that she was a bad guy. Something like this is not the act of an evil person. Just the opposite actually. And as it turns out, she really ISN'T a bad guy she's shown a lot of remorse for the stuff that she's done and she's been helping the good guys to defeat the CRM.
You can’t be brought on charges for refusing orders like that, and that one guy wouldn’t be acting like it’s an order from god. Don’t bother arguing with me
Sometimes following orders is stupid
these sunset protocols and the stadiums filled with people cost all the dead walking out there. because they probably shooted them dead but not in the head and in the stadiums they mixed bitten and unbitten und boom we get out of controll scenario
None of these spin offs will be as good or better than The Walking Dead seasons 1 - 7
@@iamstewpit6740 i agree
@@iamstewpit6740 2 new seasons are good though
Orders mean nothing after the world goes to hell. What charges could they bring you up on. Follow your own orders when the world turns its back on the people you live to protect
1:06 Not if the Geneva Convention has something to say about that.
The US isn't a signatory to every single one of the Geneva Conventions, although no Marine that I have ever served with or met would go with shooting civilians like that, especially not Americans. The whole "Robot" stigma we have isn't true we have minds of our own.
@@bloodraven1190 Exactly.
@@bloodraven1190 Someone with some goddamn common sense for a change. Semper
@@bloodraven1190 I dig the name too....
Genonice of War and apocalypse
Ok killing your own civ's is really fucking stupide even during a zombie survival. Yes their is risk that needs to be taken care of but when they are, civs can be a recruiting pool for new solders or produce you supplies as well as be a workforce. Killing them gets you neither plus more hostility from survives causing you to have more enemies when you could of have allies meaning more resources will have to be expelled when you could of gain them instead.
The last marine Huck killed was actually smart and capable of surviving an apocalypse long enough cause hasn't he has given the idea of killing the once showing in thermal images with heat signature was great presence of mind. Or else huck could have killed civilians too. Too shame he died early.
I like the WWZ version better where the government just abandoned the people. I don't think service members would do that because they would also have families. For once I'd like the military represented at least semi competently.
PEOPLE ARE THE FOUNDATION OF WHAT WE ARE BUILDING HERE!!!!!
US Military (Government)
National Guards (Governor)
Would’ve immediately said the constitution is still in effect too
This was part of the CRM's rise
I hope this doesn't happen in today's world.
Let's pray for the hope ❤
@@angelreisenger6591 thats why the people have the right to bear arms..... to fight back!
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Luckily most soldiers are a lot less likely to turn on their own people in the real world
This virus is physically impossible in our world. It is unconstitutional to harm let alone have protocols that sponsor the killing of civilians. All 4 branches of the military would handle this situation better irl, unless its covid. Covid was a failure of communication and enforcement.
*KILLING FRENZY!*
Not a Marine alive today would go through with orders like these 😂
Mercer is marine search it up
We don’t have a choice…
- there is always a choice, you just ain’t got the spine, or the balls to make it guy.
I love when people can't follow the typical kill one to save 1,000 rule because they have morals or so called xD
She’s some of the reason the infection got worse
I don't get it. This scene is suppose to make Huck look like the heroic good person but yet the VERY next episode we find out she's with the CRM, then later kills percy's uncle, shoot percy, cuts felix leg and almost kills him
This is why I was so confused when it turned out that she was a bad guy. Something like this is not the act of an evil person. Just the opposite actually. And as it turns out, she really ISN'T a bad guy she's shown a lot of remorse for the stuff that she's done and she's been helping the good guys to defeat the CRM.
Huck looks like scarlett johansson with brown hair and brown eyes
The most unrealistic part of this is thinking they’d actually do this
This was my favorite episode until 2x06
This is why I was so confused when it turned out that she was a bad guy. Something like this is not the act of an evil person. Just the opposite actually. And as it turns out, she really ISN'T a bad guy she's shown a lot of remorse for the stuff that she's done and she's been helping the good guys to defeat the CRM.
This scene would've been a million times cooler if Huck said "I'm a hero" when the guy said "I don't know what the hell you are."
Huck damn evil
Good soldier follow order
that was stupid
Order 66 in twd😂
Feel like marine become galactic empire