Operation Cobalt/ Sunset Protocol Explained | The Walking Dead Universe

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  • Опубліковано 28 лют 2024
  • Operation Cobalt is one of the most devastating events to happen in The Walking Dead Universe.
    Today I take you through all phases of the operation, and the consequences it left behind.
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  • @Swell-Films
    @Swell-Films  2 місяці тому +151

    Correction- small mistake I noticed when watching this back, Martial law would’ve been declared on the night of august 27th, rather than the early hours

  • @deathwatchproductions5221
    @deathwatchproductions5221 3 місяці тому +1247

    It’s ridiculous we haven’t gotten a show dedicated to the fall of civilization in the walking dead, we don’t need four post apocalyptic shows, it would be great if they made a show that focused on the fall, 3 episodes per group of people government, military, police, doctors,morticians, average people amidst the panic and chaos within the 2 weeks it took society to collapse, the weird news story’s of people attacking each other, people staring to loot and panic, realizing the lights won’t come back on, only to realize the dead are coming back to life, and if they bite you you turn into one of them… so many cool stories to tell and you could do it in like three episodes per group of people or individual. Shame they don’t focus on the early day of the outbreak.

    • @Swell-Films
      @Swell-Films  3 місяці тому +193

      Seriously. That’s what tales of twd should have been

    • @TheLAGopher
      @TheLAGopher 3 місяці тому +110

      Fear the Walking Dead started out that way but they fast forwarded to Operation Colbalt and the fall by the end of season one. They should have
      teased Colbalt coming over two seasons,then had the immediated post fall survival stories on the Abigail off the California coast and the Mexico story arch take up season 3.
      Make the Otto Ranch story most of season 4 and bring in the Proctors.Season 5 should have been the Clarks and their allies waging a war with
      the Proctors that would take events from California/Northern Mexico to Texas.

    • @deloreandmc88
      @deloreandmc88 3 місяці тому +32

      That is called lazy and uncreative show writing.

    • @reg4211
      @reg4211 3 місяці тому +42

      @@TheLAGopherright!??! When Chris says 'nine days since the lights went out' we said wait what!?! Its skipping past those first days!?! Just wrong

    • @rich925cal1
      @rich925cal1 3 місяці тому +4

      this comment is spot on 👍

  • @antoniocarlosoliveira9146
    @antoniocarlosoliveira9146 3 місяці тому +471

    " i saw the lights go out on the world 3 days before my scheduled re entry , a dramatic show , i speak to you from my grave " comosnaut valery vishenco .
    What's sad tho is that not only did he witness the world go dark , but he also witnessed the world burn due to the bombings .

    • @anthonykrutis490
      @anthonykrutis490 3 місяці тому +35

      He would have witnessed a lot more.The one part World War Z is definitely impressive.Why I would love to see a tales from Walking Dead set on the Iss.Same for what would it be like for the Navy.Would they be called in or still be out to sea.

    • @reg4211
      @reg4211 2 місяці тому +14

      @@anthonykrutis490 did you see Dead in the Water? Cool version of events on a nuclear sub.

    • @thatarse
      @thatarse 2 місяці тому +1

      This was already covered in WWZ (not the totally shite film).

    • @leonidaspereirafilho499
      @leonidaspereirafilho499 2 місяці тому +3

      Where did the picture of the fesr the walking dead family with a military soldier in camp of tenta come from? And the information and picture of lincoln nebrasca?

    • @kail9036
      @kail9036 10 днів тому +1

      It's kinda depressing to think that he saw the world go dark and then suddenly boom with light and then had to watch the lights slowly die out and then never come back on

  • @rmartinson19
    @rmartinson19 2 місяці тому +448

    I mean, the removing people for depression thing makes a ton of sense in-universe. If that depressed person kills themselves, then within a matter of minutes you could have a zombie outbreak in the middle of the "safe" zone.

    • @Swell-Films
      @Swell-Films  2 місяці тому +90

      That’s a valid reason, good call

    • @TrePrince
      @TrePrince 2 місяці тому +41

      Yea, and just in general, they can be dangerous tbh. Maybe it isn't ethical, but it's reasonable

    • @thatarse
      @thatarse 2 місяці тому +4

      @@TrePrincelike the Israeli Government?

    • @DavePryor302
      @DavePryor302 2 місяці тому +3

      @@thatarsebye bye Palestine

    • @edu7979
      @edu7979 2 місяці тому +28

      @@thatarse Anddd you people always bringing palestine into shit it doesnt have to be
      they doomed themselves big deal, cant expect an attack against israel to have a different result than any of the other ones over the years

  • @daroachdoggjr188
    @daroachdoggjr188 3 місяці тому +534

    Damn the Knox infection is crazy man, hopefully Louisville isn’t too bad.

    • @primarchicarus7099
      @primarchicarus7099 2 місяці тому +53

      Brother

    • @terranical437
      @terranical437 2 місяці тому +55

      project zomboid reference

    • @GeneralPhanter
      @GeneralPhanter 2 місяці тому +34

      haha my man out ere with the Project Zomboid Reference

    • @FaultlineSurfer
      @FaultlineSurfer 2 місяці тому

      Don't be ridiculous. The Knox Infection is contained.
      The Knox Infection has ALWAYS been contained.

    • @joejose8433
      @joejose8433 2 місяці тому

      Well I guess the government is in the bunkers and s***f****** female federal prisoners in return if they want to survive blah blah blah. Play it reminds me of that short-lived TV series with Luke Perry in which he played a child of immune to the virus here comes the government coming out of their bunkers and s*** wearing hazmat suit telling the crowd that this is no legal gathering blah blah blah the United States government hasn't been heard of for almost 3 years and now all of a sudden the United States government is back as soon as they tried to assemble and start a brand new government in a football stadium believable.

  • @jmcclain8237
    @jmcclain8237 2 місяці тому +552

    Detroit would've been bombed but the military couldn't tell the difference.

    • @ryanxx24
      @ryanxx24 2 місяці тому +15

      Detroit isn’t that bad

    • @davidpickens8800
      @davidpickens8800 2 місяці тому +60

      ​@ryanxx24 it's worse....

    • @combatwombat2134
      @combatwombat2134 2 місяці тому +68

      Have you seen Scary Movie 4? They spoof on War of the Worlds and there's a scene where they show Detroit on fire, gunshots and sirens, that sort of thing.
      Then she says "Here's Detroit after the attack."
      And they just show exactly the same clip but there's a Tripod walking through exactly the same circumstance. 😂

    • @brandonmunsen6035
      @brandonmunsen6035 2 місяці тому

      I live by detroit and its just an overdone meme. All of America is a dumpster fire. Your whole country is a laughing stock. 3rd world country.

    • @dragonace119
      @dragonace119 2 місяці тому +12

      @@combatwombat2134 The Scary Movie series of movies were hilarious.

  • @thepeskyone
    @thepeskyone 3 місяці тому +228

    Military: lets destroy cities just so the world looks like a cool zombie environment

    • @FaultlineSurfer
      @FaultlineSurfer 2 місяці тому

      Self-inflict genocide for the ⭐ A e s t h e t i c ⭐

    • @Man_Aslume
      @Man_Aslume 2 місяці тому +5

      Guy: hey is that a-
      *Kaboom*

  • @ItsMagiik
    @ItsMagiik 2 місяці тому +202

    Anybody interested in how a competent government would tackle a zombie apocalypse should read World War Z (not the movie). They literally moved everything they could to remote locations in safe zones and built up a new industry to fight back - abandoning survivors to fend for their own and to act as bait in order to relieve the safe zone. It's written and described really realistically.

    • @timothyshepherd6164
      @timothyshepherd6164 2 місяці тому +21

      Remember though they had a competent president who held the entire thing together his choice to push forward against all advice was pivotal

    • @katiacritten9975
      @katiacritten9975 2 місяці тому +12

      I'd hardly call World War Z realistic. The battle of yonkers in particular was atrocious

    • @Godzilla-sp9ew
      @Godzilla-sp9ew Місяць тому +14

      @@katiacritten9975 that was the whole point, that's fairly standard for our Army, we very much are as a country are built around knock out wins and Shock and Awe. they have a whole part dedicated about the realistic tole of getting our asses handed to us.

    • @katiacritten9975
      @katiacritten9975 Місяць тому +25

      @Godzilla-sp9ew the whole point can be wrong. The book explicity lays the defeat at the feet of "cold warrior" generals who tried to fight the engagement like the zombies were soviets invading Western Europe.
      To Max Brooks I guess that means "one static line of defense where we start shooting when the enemy is in visual range of the infantry. With one minute of artillery ammo and a single salvo of MLRS rockets"
      The US strategy against the USSR in the cold war would have been fantastic against zombies. It was focused around multiple established defensive positions that get withdraw and reinforce the one behind it once the enemy gets too close. Except when it comes to zombies then they wouldn't even have to worry about hostile air power or enemy armor or artillery deployed minefields and shit.
      The US army is built for shock and awe and knockout victories? Alrighty then, why the hell was their *only* axis of attack the force in yonkers that only engaged when the infantry could see the zombies? The horde stretched from yonkers to time square, why were there not constant A10 strafing runs of that horde? Why were there not flights of AC130s drive bying the horde with a guns? Why were there no B52s dropping topography changing levels of ordinance?
      And don't even get me started on the ridiculous claim that the igniting car gas tanks caused a ludicrous increase in lethality such to the point that the artillery guns and MLRS systems became basically useless without them. Max Brooks wants to talk about "steel rain", that's what the Iraqi army called the shells from the M270. Those things explode and then kick out a 33.5 meter tungsten blizzard from hell. Nothing human adjacent is walking through that.
      And on the topic of the infantrymen. The whole "you can't just expect someone to pull of perfect headshots after training them to go for the body all this time." thing is ridiculous. If they knew they had to shoot for the head, they'd shoot for the head. In Afghanistan in 2004 the US was being investigated for war crimes because international observers kept finding headshot insurgents and thought the US was executing POWs. Turns out that lots of times that was all the insurgent showed, so that's what got shot.
      TLDR: Max Brooks didn't know what the hell he was talking about, a lot of people assume he did and treat it like legitimate insightful criticism of the military, and it really gets my goat.

    • @plasmaxl8626
      @plasmaxl8626 Місяць тому +4

      ​@katiacritten9975 that concluding point also becomes apparent when you read his zombie survival guide and get to the part on guns. Its factual accuracy on the nature of firearms is...bad, to put it politely

  • @blackaddam9033
    @blackaddam9033 3 місяці тому +255

    I never understood how the walkers have stayed kicking around for decades. Flies would have eaten them to the bone in a couple of weeks.

    • @Swell-Films
      @Swell-Films  3 місяці тому +102

      To be fair, they are kinda just walking skeletons by season 6 lol

    • @alexstrejc3004
      @alexstrejc3004 3 місяці тому +23

      Doesnt the virus slow down decomposition?

    • @blackaddam9033
      @blackaddam9033 3 місяці тому +65

      @alexstrejc3004 I don't know how a virus can stop a maggot from having a meal

    • @alexstrejc3004
      @alexstrejc3004 3 місяці тому +69

      @blackaddam9033 it's made up to explain stuff in that universe they are decaying slower. Scientists said if zombies ever existed they'd be gone in 1 year.

    • @nstnst8007
      @nstnst8007 3 місяці тому +21

      Same goes for how fuel is still around too but who cares zombies arent real either

  • @rainbowblitz9896
    @rainbowblitz9896 3 місяці тому +1225

    So you’re telling me, only troops from pennsylvania decided that mass killing non infected civilians through the country is not a good thing? Nah I guarantee there would be more refusing blatant orders like that.
    Edit: This is based off my personal experience while serving, and everyone in had the same opinion on going against doing these types of acts in these fake scenarios.
    Edit 2: I'm happy I created discord from this comment. Lots of hot takes mostly coming from none servicemembers putting their two cents in something they never experienced, or been through.

    • @mrdiamond_official
      @mrdiamond_official 3 місяці тому +64

      yea probably from commonwealth, portland, campus colony, and omaha

    • @Thesolegod
      @Thesolegod 3 місяці тому +72

      Good soldiers follow orders, private?

    • @brandonraymus3026
      @brandonraymus3026 3 місяці тому +93

      He never said he was the only one. But it's clear the city of Philadelphia is probably the most succesful community in the USA since the apocalypse started. I doubt there is any other group as large as the Civic Republic.

    • @rainbowblitz9896
      @rainbowblitz9896 3 місяці тому +43

      @@Thesolegod Greater ones follow the right ones.

    • @zoroux2826
      @zoroux2826 3 місяці тому +38

      My guess is that lots of other military groups did do this. If so, I’m guessing that the main reasons they’re gone now would be that they either had too many people to keep under control, too small of a population to sustain themselves, had leadership that was unwilling to sacrifice morals for survival, had leadership that was unable to sustain order, or these groups were just not strong enough to resist other factions like the crm.

  • @kingdevin_
    @kingdevin_ 3 місяці тому +186

    This was a good video! I liked how Operation Cobalt was played out in the shows especially Fear The Walking Dead. I also liked how Okafar went into detail on his involvement. Thank you for this video!

    • @paulwillis-farrell
      @paulwillis-farrell 3 місяці тому +8

      Okafor Is technically the only character to appear in every main show except daryl Dixon (cuz we see atlanta, LA and Lincoln being bombed which technically as he said he was a part of)

    • @paulwillis-farrell
      @paulwillis-farrell 3 місяці тому +1

      Weed 😂

  • @carlosjaundoo3188
    @carlosjaundoo3188 3 місяці тому +122

    honestly Cobalt would have worked if they had been serious about it and destroying the zombies. Instead, they were trying to keep the cities intact and magically kill the zombies. impossible. Those major cities would need to be leveled, zero life to save the country and the survivors. I would have sent in teams to gather the resources for life as best it could be, gathered survivors and evacuated. Then take it all down. that would have wiped out major zombie populations and buildings can be rebuilt. Okafor's decision is the heavyweight champ of stupidity. There were so many other ways to achieve the same outcome and keep our soldiers alive. sigh.

    • @GeneralPhanter
      @GeneralPhanter 2 місяці тому +25

      Remember, if the government and military did what they would competently do IRl, we wouldn't have a show.

    • @carlosjaundoo3188
      @carlosjaundoo3188 2 місяці тому +13

      @@GeneralPhanter fair comment

    • @Someguythatplumbs98
      @Someguythatplumbs98 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@carlosjaundoo3188 also Okafor was with the US Air force and not the crm at the time , so it wasn't his overall decision but the presidents he was acting on orders til the unfortunate downfall of his wife and defied orders to bomb the rest of the cities he was told to bomb. If I remember correctly

  • @flameguy3416
    @flameguy3416 3 місяці тому +156

    God i hate seeing extreme government ineptitude in these fictional apocalyptic stories.

    • @dwellner502
      @dwellner502 3 місяці тому +51

      Might be the most realistic part of the series though

    • @sylvananas7923
      @sylvananas7923 3 місяці тому +40

      In stories like 28 days later and sprinting infected sure, I can understand, but TWD ? The country spending the highest millitary spending in the world would fail against slow shambling ones ? Ok clearly there's panic in the first days/ week, but I feel they could actually fight back

    • @paladinboyd1228
      @paladinboyd1228 2 місяці тому +37

      @@sylvananas7923 That's how it went down in World war z there was panic at the start, the military learned a harsh lesson but eventually the surviving countries adapted and began to retake their countries. Slow-moving zombies are not much of a threat once you get past the initial stages. Fast runners are much better for a story if you want the world to go to hell and not recover, for example in the series dead set the writers went with fast zombies as they were the only way Britain would be overrun so quickly.

    • @jakkuhl6223
      @jakkuhl6223 2 місяці тому +15

      It's been called grimderp, from 40k where new writers would come and explain how things are only bad because the people in charge are uniformly stupid. Appropriate here too.

    • @johnclay2716
      @johnclay2716 2 місяці тому +4

      @@jakkuhl6223 40k writing is terrible

  • @dingaling487
    @dingaling487 2 місяці тому +21

    Napalm is a pretty stupid weapon to use. A large portion of victims would be from asphyxiation, not burning, letting them reanimate intact. Furthermore, even if you were directly burnt, you would just reanimate as a burnt walker like those walkers who reanimated on burnt buses or torched cars.

  • @TheLAGopher
    @TheLAGopher 3 місяці тому +86

    The video left out that P.A.D.R.A was also put into motion after Colbalt as a means to preserve the Federal Government and had both a US Senator and a US Army General involved in setting it up.

    • @JarodFarrant
      @JarodFarrant 2 місяці тому

      What’s Padra?

    • @Man_Aslume
      @Man_Aslume 2 місяці тому

      ​​@@JarodFarrant
      Pink
      Apples
      Donuts
      Registration
      Act

    • @thanhdanhnguyen5258
      @thanhdanhnguyen5258 17 днів тому +1

      @@JarodFarrant i guess he meaned FEDRA in the Last of us series

  • @chokingmessiah
    @chokingmessiah 2 місяці тому +48

    Potential spoiler: It sounds like N.O.A.H. is a reference to Justin Cronin's The Passage trilogy. In that trilogy of novels, the origins of the apocalypse begins with a secret government project called Project Noah, which administered an altered virus to inmates in an attempt to achieve some form of immortality. Of course, it backfired, and created horrendous zombie/vampire-like human hybrids.

    • @carlbates9110
      @carlbates9110 2 місяці тому +2

      Though they actually succeeded with Amy right before the Twelve and Zero escaped.

  • @dressednplaid4875
    @dressednplaid4875 2 місяці тому +19

    In Max Brooks Zombie Survival Guide (might've been WWZ I forget), the military actually effectively used safe-zones to buy time to set up what was essentially the maginot line in the rocky mountains. These safe zones were not expected to ride out the zombie apocalypse. However they were decently supplied and armed. The survivors in these zones attracted and concentrated hordes. This has 2 benefits, the 1st being that the survivors would thin out the hordes and the second is that it more or less keeps hundreds of thousands or potentially millions of zombies still while they try to breach the safe zones. The man who thought of this was controversial in universe because while it WORKED and bought time for the military to recall and gather it's resources, it came at the cost of using civilians and soldiers alike as human bait who were mostly left to die.

    • @FA_Horus
      @FA_Horus Місяць тому +2

      It was a guy in South Africa in World War Z.

  • @Roger-il8iw
    @Roger-il8iw 3 місяці тому +30

    There’s gotta be some people in one of those super bunkers. Imagine if a bunch of big politicians were revealed to be alive at some point. It would make sense and make some great conflicts

  • @francissobotka8725
    @francissobotka8725 3 місяці тому +35

    Kinda wish Okafors would of survived.The president would of went to Cheyenne mountain or other hardened bunkers across the us .

    • @FA_Horus
      @FA_Horus Місяць тому +3

      It's more likely Oahu considering the 7th Fleet, 3rd Marine Division, 25 ID and all the support behind them. More than enough to defend the island if you include the Hawaii Guard, and every other unit in the Pacific being pulled back

  • @QueerlyBeloved386
    @QueerlyBeloved386 3 місяці тому +56

    This was so enjoyable dude. It’s nice to see a fan dive deep into the show. Subscribed

    • @Swell-Films
      @Swell-Films  3 місяці тому +2

      Thanks mate! Glad you enjoyed!

  • @watchawantfool
    @watchawantfool 3 місяці тому +54

    The Walking Dead: Chicago, would go crazy hard

    • @StarmercGaming
      @StarmercGaming 3 місяці тому +9

      @watchawantfool or The Walking Dead: New York - Big Apple at the first Days of the Outbreak, that must be the hell...😱

    • @topsdaily_productions
      @topsdaily_productions 2 місяці тому

      Chicago was close to being nuked. Wonder why Chicago specifically though maybe it's filled with Variants

    • @Tejano12398
      @Tejano12398 2 місяці тому +6

      @@StarmercGaming that’s what Tales Should have been about it should had shown the fall of different States like Texas New York Florida Illinois Arizona Nevada Oregon Michigan Alabama Mississippi Washington Oklahoma Kansas and Washington DC

    • @StarmercGaming
      @StarmercGaming 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Tejano12398 That would be epic. I wait since a long time for something like that. Maybe 2-4 Episodes about different Cities & different Persons. For exampel: Washington DC - 2 Episodes about a Capitol Police Officer, 2 Episodes about an Nurse. And then the Series switch to another City & show us 2 another Characters.

    • @gazeshot9632
      @gazeshot9632 2 місяці тому +2

      Can’t help but think about O Block walkers

  • @xxghostxx4049
    @xxghostxx4049 3 місяці тому +36

    Yep im subscribing to you! These types of videos about the walking dead is what I love to watch. The ominous vibe makes it even more intriguing 😌

  • @DJHazzard
    @DJHazzard 2 місяці тому +15

    I find it much more interesting how the electric cars and new charging stations and models of vacuum robots from 2019 come into the series who produced them during the zombie apocalypse

  • @lastnightslipstick
    @lastnightslipstick 3 місяці тому +31

    This is Great! Excellent explanation, Thank you. Your videos are so good! I am now going to rewatch all with my roomates!!😆👍

  • @DaBwiggz
    @DaBwiggz 3 місяці тому +14

    ive been binging all your videos thank you for these!

  • @Huntermiller881
    @Huntermiller881 3 місяці тому +16

    good vid man keep it up

  • @gothbossbaby
    @gothbossbaby 3 місяці тому +5

    great stuff dude

  • @OldManJacan
    @OldManJacan 2 місяці тому +11

    My biggest question is what happened in Hawaii, its a state that while fairly densely populated is spread out among several islands and has one of the largest contingent of US troops of basically anywhere. On top of that with a lot of it being navy, even if the main population centers fell I feel like pockets would last and since it would likely be a main staging ground of any US troops pulled out of Asia would continue to receive large amounts of fresh troops and supplies that would let them take back the islands (at least most of them) and quite possibly create the strongest remaining group of basically anywhere.

    • @rbgerald2469
      @rbgerald2469 2 місяці тому +4

      Same question here. We also have to include Guam and Pearl Harbor

    • @glennhubbard5008
      @glennhubbard5008 Місяць тому +1

      Lots of spam.

    • @FA_Horus
      @FA_Horus Місяць тому +4

      It's also likely that the President was evaced there considering that fact. Oahu specifically has Fort Shafter, Wheeler Army Airfield, Schofield Barracks, Pearl, Marine Corps Hawai'i and dozens of National Guard armories. I'm willing to bet that it is either still standing or fell within like a wekk

    • @antoniocarlosoliveira9146
      @antoniocarlosoliveira9146 11 днів тому +1

      Its possible hawaii survived , however, they wouldnt be able to make contact with the continent , as they were extremely far away .

  • @KristoMOfficalGamingChannel
    @KristoMOfficalGamingChannel 3 місяці тому +10

    Keep it up man

  • @MoviesStuff
    @MoviesStuff 2 місяці тому +15

    Soo I think that a dedicated series around the early days/months years would just show how easy it is to repel the walkers.

    • @FernandoMartinez-pv1id
      @FernandoMartinez-pv1id 2 місяці тому

      It would show how much panic there was. Same as the LA Riots in Fear The Walking Dead.

  • @IsmellGoodASF
    @IsmellGoodASF 3 місяці тому +12

    ☆☆☆☆☆@Ty swell☆☆☆☆☆
    I want to say thank you. Thank you for making such great walking dead story arc videos. Ive watched everyone of them over the last couple days and they are magnificent! As someone who has been watching faithfuly since episode#1 all those years ago, and has watched the series and spin-offs in their entirety at least 4 times throughout the years, I absolutely loved these vids! This has been an entertaining trip down memory lane for sure. To re-live some of my favorite story arcs in the way you've put them together has been an entertaining viewing experience! I know its hard work but please man, keep making these for all significant story arcs in TWD universe. Id love to see you weave some arcs together between shows and tell the larger overarching story between them while filling in time jumps. I do not usually leave comments complementing the channel creator of vids like this, but in this case I absolutely had to give you your flowers. 👏 👏 WELL DONE! Youve done something really great here! I've liked your vids and subscribed to your channel. I will recomend your channel and vids. I'll also share them in the appropriate places to try and drive some views and subs your way. Thanks again man!

  • @rghunter523
    @rghunter523 3 місяці тому +8

    You broke that down very well. Great video bro

  • @Joeswoodworking21
    @Joeswoodworking21 2 місяці тому +2

    Thank you that was pretty well explained

  • @Jkappabusiness
    @Jkappabusiness 3 місяці тому +6

    Thank you for the vid nice

  • @DefaultProphet
    @DefaultProphet 3 місяці тому +20

    Navy personnel are Sailors not Marines. Noticed that in the Texas nuke zones video too

    • @Swell-Films
      @Swell-Films  3 місяці тому +11

      Yes thank you for the correction, sometimes my wires get crossed when writing on American Armed Forces as I am Canadian, but I’ll double check my scripts in the future

    • @XxreadingaddictionxX
      @XxreadingaddictionxX 16 днів тому

      @@Swell-Films fun fact, the marines started out as part of the Navy but then became their own branch.

  • @yqw_aa
    @yqw_aa 3 місяці тому +7

    Deserves a sub

  • @armaniv6455
    @armaniv6455 2 місяці тому +8

    I would love to see an AU where operation cobalt never happened and to see if most of infrastructure remained intact how different that would make things for the post apocalypse..

  • @invictus2578
    @invictus2578 3 місяці тому +20

    Well they failed because the soldiers got trained at the stormtrooper academy

  • @joobisnoob
    @joobisnoob 3 місяці тому +4

    I’ve never heard the radio wave thing before that’s dopeeeeeee

  • @speedy01247
    @speedy01247 Місяць тому +4

    honestly this whole situation could have been pretty reasonable dealt with, the main issue was the initial surprise by the infection, but after a few days of chaos they should have been able to get clear guidelines on how to deal with infected and more importantly how to prevent infection. like by the end of the month the military would mainly have to be used to remove what few hordes appeared and most people would learn to tie up a zombie and call the cops or some new organization for removal, while hospitals and late stage care facilities would have safety measures enacted.

    • @FA_Horus
      @FA_Horus Місяць тому

      It's a combination of the dead and the panicked living that caused the downfall. Living were keeping everyone distracted while the dead just got larger in population

    • @antoniocarlosoliveira9146
      @antoniocarlosoliveira9146 11 днів тому

      ​@@FA_Horusjust a day after the outbreak started , martial law was declared in all the US, state and federal troops were deployed to deal with the infected , so chaos shouldn't have been too much of a factor for the downfall , the military would put everything in order , and people would be quarentined at their homes , and would receive guide lines on how to deal with an infected .

  • @BobBob-up8fz
    @BobBob-up8fz 2 місяці тому +4

    I'd love to see an explanation of what caused the Wildfire virus.
    They never flat out explain it in the comics.
    But it was hinted to have been a some kind of space plauge.

    • @antoniocarlosoliveira9146
      @antoniocarlosoliveira9146 2 місяці тому

      Twd world beyond and daryl dixon explains
      how it happened , it started in france in a biotech lab , apparently wildfire was originally planned to be some sort of genetic modified virus or organism that would make humans stronger ( basically trying to create a super soldier ) , it was a collab between the CDC and INSERM ( france's version of the CDC).

  • @topsdaily_productions
    @topsdaily_productions 2 місяці тому +12

    Id love to see you make a video about the rest of the world mainly France, Russia, China (China is mentioned in the webisode Cold Storage and in the comic universe theres a book about China), Spain (also mentioned in the comics), South Africa and the UK. and you could also theorise on which countries would have likely survived such as Switzerland, Ireland etc countries which would be easy to defend. Its a question i get asked often in walkign dead related content so it would probably do quite well

    • @Tejano12398
      @Tejano12398 2 місяці тому +3

      Mexico was in fear

    • @leonidaspereirafilho499
      @leonidaspereirafilho499 2 місяці тому

      There is no book about china. Only about spain.

    • @topsdaily_productions
      @topsdaily_productions 2 місяці тому

      @@leonidaspereirafilho499 TWD Typhoon is about China

    • @leonidaspereirafilho499
      @leonidaspereirafilho499 2 місяці тому

      @@topsdaily_productionsOh wow, I feel stupid, Im sorry, I honestly did not know about that. I knew there were the books about the government (prequels and sequels) but I didnt know about this book about china. Thank you.

    • @FA_Horus
      @FA_Horus Місяць тому

      The only country I could legit see surviving is Australia. Not because everything is trying to kill you, but because they practically tamed the land in terms of figuring out how to survive. I also like the idea of saltwater Crocs doing their thing to walkers

  • @XtremeGamingYT1
    @XtremeGamingYT1 3 місяці тому +2

    one interesting thing to note is that in season 2 episode 8 of the original show some people in bar said they came from philly

  • @ussenterprisecv6231
    @ussenterprisecv6231 2 місяці тому +12

    Honestly i say military failed because plot armor protected zombies

    • @Tejano12398
      @Tejano12398 2 місяці тому +3

      No it was because zombies doesn’t exist in the TWD Universe

    • @gotanon9659
      @gotanon9659 18 днів тому

      ​@@Tejano12398Even if Zombies didnt exist riots, rally and IJA banzai charges of WW2 fame would have easily hinted on how to stop it

  • @dfailsthemost
    @dfailsthemost 3 місяці тому +8

    Who knows how big the herds would be had they not dropped the bombs.

  • @wyattjohnson1160
    @wyattjohnson1160 25 днів тому

    I was only a tiny little 6 year old when Operation Cobalt commenced and idk what I would’ve done. I would’ve probably got bit by a walker and turned or died in the bombings. Thank goodness something like this can’t happen irl. Great video and it was very informative!!

    • @PhuaJunwei
      @PhuaJunwei 21 день тому

      If you lived in Georgia at the time, there will be chances that you would be friends with Carl Poppa and become the gingerbread boy that he hurt

  • @Tejano12398
    @Tejano12398 3 місяці тому +25

    Operation cobalt ended right on my birthday Sep 10 2010 0:24 😢 I was like 8 years old in 2010

    • @bladepvpz3015
      @bladepvpz3015 3 місяці тому +2

      Happened 6 days before my 7th birthday too, would've been a scary time to be a kid

    • @Tejano12398
      @Tejano12398 3 місяці тому +3

      @@bladepvpz3015 I was living in Mexico at the time but my dad was living in Texas

    • @xxbluecolt420xx2
      @xxbluecolt420xx2 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah I was 7 that would be scary for any child

    • @Tejano12398
      @Tejano12398 2 місяці тому +3

      @@xxbluecolt420xx2 am sacred on what happened to my dad since teddy launched the Missiles and Destroyed Half of Texas and I still don’t know if he survived the beginning of the apocalypse in 2010

    • @Tejano12398
      @Tejano12398 2 місяці тому +3

      @@xxbluecolt420xx2 honestly I feel bad for the 2010 generation since they never got to see modern technology or social media apps nor the classes of 2010

  • @mikeycarr3283
    @mikeycarr3283 2 місяці тому +7

    dudee whats crazy is the fall of the world is on my brithday august 27th, 2006 i would have been 4 years old when the wildfire virus spread i dont know what i would have done or if i would have even remember it yet alone the cobalt/ sunset protocal bombings imagine being a kid in that....

    • @Tejano12398
      @Tejano12398 2 місяці тому +1

      Dude my birthday was in September 10 2010 when operation Cobalt ended I was born in September 10 2003

  • @MiguelAlburquerque
    @MiguelAlburquerque 2 місяці тому +4

    0:31 A new day arises. Zelda majoras mask sound

  • @DaLegend-nz6li
    @DaLegend-nz6li 3 місяці тому +18

    Hey man, i saw this idea on a fallout video, he basically did a entire history, well what he knew of each state in that universe, do you think it would be possible for one to be done for TWD? I mean it would be quite easy for states like Georgia or Texas, but we dont know a lot about most of the country.

    • @Swell-Films
      @Swell-Films  3 місяці тому +3

      I’m definitely looking to move into content discussing the state of specific places in the country!
      I did one on New York City about a week ago, and I’m currently working on one discussing the current state of Texas, but I’ll definitely consider doing a lightning round type video on all 50 states!

    • @DaLegend-nz6li
      @DaLegend-nz6li 3 місяці тому

      @@Swell-Films Yep, you could include notable characters from those states, notable events, etc, i think it would be cool.

    • @paulwillis-farrell
      @paulwillis-farrell 3 місяці тому

      You could use the map from the ones who live intro to give some background aswell especially as the nuke map is shown

  • @WestOfEarth
    @WestOfEarth 10 днів тому

    I happened to catch an episode of one of the spin-off shows and could barely watch it. It seemed like I was watching a soap opera. Of the 45-50 minute run time, fully 30 minutes of it was just two characters in a room talking. Another 15 minutes or so was flashbacks to past arguments. Then 5 minutes of fighting zombies, roll credits.

  • @GhostyMist
    @GhostyMist 3 місяці тому +7

    I’m going to guess that the series finale of all three spinoffs are going to end with everyone being aware of the CRM and waging war. Then, there might be an AMC movie where everyone goes to war. Just my thoughts.

  • @ryancialone3045
    @ryancialone3045 3 місяці тому +12

    the military was more or less pretending and had the mentality the zombies were some kind of enemy that planned and held territory. and that civilians could "defect" and were a liability in the fight somehow. they definitely weren't conscious of that fact but with how draconian they were for literally no reason at all shows they were operating like its a military occupation by a foreign power.

  • @crypticfire9499
    @crypticfire9499 Місяць тому +2

    Wait, N.O.A.H. could relate to Noah's Ark and the helicopters could possibly relate to that but a huge naval ship could also be out in the pacific surviving out there

  • @ben2741
    @ben2741 Місяць тому +2

    Regan warned us

  • @Cole-by9xs
    @Cole-by9xs 3 місяці тому +8

    You make great content dude

  • @wesrrowlands8309
    @wesrrowlands8309 2 місяці тому +3

    Glad Philly survived but it's still bad luck for the rest of us on the other side of PA. It's odd that folks on submarines got infected if they've been under for a while. These lost safe zones feel a lot like the ones in The Last of Us.

  • @timgersh6787
    @timgersh6787 3 місяці тому +15

    well this could not be a national thing but rather state by state but the whole thing makes no real sense as its the last legal order and then America is run by your local negan

  • @KaptifLaDistillerie
    @KaptifLaDistillerie 2 місяці тому +4

    I'm curious about Colorado Springs and Cheyenne Mountain. Surely the CRM has tried to reclaim such places ?

  • @2i741
    @2i741 Місяць тому +2

    On twitter years ago, the creator of twd said that the cause of the virus was alien spore

  • @chrisleonard2066
    @chrisleonard2066 Місяць тому +2

    Fun fact! Despite no wildfire virus, Phoenix is still full of zombies

  • @empressink_
    @empressink_ 2 місяці тому +5

    Frank Darabont should've never been fired, the show could've thrived for a little while longer before turning into the mess it is now.

  • @jamieprater1300
    @jamieprater1300 2 місяці тому +3

    Did everyone know that nobody truly died and everyone become walkers? Or we’re the trying to disintegrate everyone so no more walkers would be created?

  • @HeWhoIsNamedPatrick
    @HeWhoIsNamedPatrick 2 місяці тому +7

    Of all the “safe zones” that were made I’m shocked we didn’t see one like Jackson from TLOU universe. Extremely high natural walls that can be pushed down by dead in the middle of large open area so anyone coming (good or bad)could be seen from a mile or so out.

    • @antoniocarlosoliveira9146
      @antoniocarlosoliveira9146 2 місяці тому +1

      What about alexandria , hilltop or ocean side ? They were gated communities with Electricity , water , food and meds , then they were annexed by the commonwealth , and people in the commonwealth live how they used to before the outbreak and maintained democracy .

  • @Dreaminghappiness
    @Dreaminghappiness 2 місяці тому +2

    The fact that Pamela is the daughter of the US president, do you think Pamela might get her redemption arc? Looking at Negan now, maybe it seems inevitable that someone from the Commonwealth might play a key role in fighting the CRM. It appears that CRM has a history with the US president…

    • @Tejano12398
      @Tejano12398 2 місяці тому +1

      Barack Obama was president at the time

  • @_Devil
    @_Devil 3 місяці тому +4

    I like to imagine that many other State NG's defied orders as well. There were some Walking Dead Webisodes from a decade ago about a woman going around the country interviewing people, and there were these two folks that met eachother in Little Rock and traveled out of there. In their interview they never mentioned anything like Cobalt's bombings, so I imagine that the Feds just plumb forgot about that place or the Arkansas NG refused to carry out the orders

  • @DavePryor302
    @DavePryor302 2 місяці тому +3

    We keep hearing about the federal government making these calls. We have to have them included in the show. Where are they staying ? Do they have bunkers ?

  • @HaiAkuSydney
    @HaiAkuSydney 3 місяці тому +4

    Its really devastating

    • @Tejano12398
      @Tejano12398 2 місяці тому +1

      I feel bad for the 2010 Generation

  • @WarlordEnthusiast
    @WarlordEnthusiast 24 дні тому +3

    Wait what, how did submarines get infected?
    They're some of the most isolated people on earth?

    • @steriskyline4470
      @steriskyline4470 23 дні тому

      With most of the usa In this show, unfortunately they suffered from terrible writing lol

  • @matthewrolfe23
    @matthewrolfe23 2 місяці тому +2

    operations cobalt would've been the first thing they do
    imagine had they kept the military outside to wait until the fire died down
    then commence operation hades
    marching through streets by streets taking out any that survive
    infected or not within larger city
    using every weapons avaliable on hands
    estimated to last 120 days or less depending on population level

    • @baconsinatra8837
      @baconsinatra8837 Місяць тому

      There'd be no need to burn the cities. Zombies come towards you, making no move to hide

  • @Glitch_in_the_Matrix
    @Glitch_in_the_Matrix 25 днів тому +1

    TWD US Government had a worse idea than Vault Tec

  • @PvtSchlock
    @PvtSchlock Місяць тому

    Fozie: curtain call!

  • @rodpolintan6533
    @rodpolintan6533 17 днів тому

    Feels like a project zomboid story, awesome!

  • @saywise1106
    @saywise1106 23 дні тому +1

    I have a theory, in one of the TWD episodes a space vehicle crashed and Eugene used parts of it to fix the short wave radio. Was that the Russian that Strand was talking to?

    • @Swell-Films
      @Swell-Films  22 дні тому

      I believe that was just a fallen satellite if I remember correct

  • @officialsniperYT
    @officialsniperYT 2 місяці тому +1

    Bro I am literally behind on Fear The Walking Dead and The Walking Dead World Beyond not ez for me but dang

  • @phonoart_official
    @phonoart_official 2 місяці тому +3

    What happened with the nuclear plants?

  • @Lord_Shadowz
    @Lord_Shadowz 2 місяці тому +1

    How long does it take for an infected to die? How do they keep living?

  • @MillerMoth
    @MillerMoth 2 місяці тому +1

    Watching all this (off topic)
    Why is there not a fallout styled walking dead game lol im washing dishes listening to this and just has me thinking be an amazing survival game! Love TWD

  • @lawsonharrison6927
    @lawsonharrison6927 Місяць тому

    Feels good to be in the far north. Just hold out till winter and zombies freeze

  • @The1rust
    @The1rust 15 днів тому

    What would have happened to sailors in submarines during the initial infection? They'd be breathing air that's been scrubbed and in a self-contained environment so if they died there would they actually stay dead or are there zombie subs just chilling out in the ocean?

  • @Italkmadshitlol
    @Italkmadshitlol 3 місяці тому +6

    When did they say it was in August? Is that in the new show?

    • @Swell-Films
      @Swell-Films  3 місяці тому +4

      World beyond reveals the outbreak started august 25th, going by the fear timeline operation cobalt started 2 days later.

  • @Noodles-The-Hunter-Vanguard
    @Noodles-The-Hunter-Vanguard 3 місяці тому +4

    You mentioned how North America had been overrun. Do we know if this outbreak spread across the globe or no? (Cuz I don't remember any mention of this topic)

    • @Swell-Films
      @Swell-Films  3 місяці тому +8

      Yes we know for a fact the virus went global.
      Evident from season 1 episode 6, where dr. Jenner tells the group the French we’re the last country to hold out before going silent.
      In fear season 3 (I believe) Victor strand talks to a Russian cosmonaut who claims to be watching the whole world burn.
      And of course, the daryl Dixon show, which takes place in France.

    • @Tejano12398
      @Tejano12398 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Swell-Films you should do a video about the Fall of Mexico since Mexico was in fear the Walking dead it’s still unknown if Mexico City Fell to the Dead it’s likely that Mexico fell but since Mexican Cities Didn’t get bomb or evacuated it’s possible that there could be survivors in Mexico there’s no mention on what happened to the President of Mexico

    • @PhuaJunwei
      @PhuaJunwei 21 день тому +1

      In comic universe of TWD, Spain and Europe, Japan, Korea and China got affected by apocalypse as shown in Mobile Games and Novel

  • @reapnpiece6857
    @reapnpiece6857 День тому

    how to play the military in walking dead
    1. download project zomboid
    2. create a veteran
    3. increase gun spawn and ammo spawn
    4. go into Louisville and role play being in the military
    5. with max level aim and reload, kill a zombie hoard successfully

  • @tjhagen1558
    @tjhagen1558 Місяць тому

    Out of all places, how did multnomah County survive? Although back then downtown was a place I would love to hang out in Was a place I loved to visit. They could have at least destroyed Gresham in the show.

  • @jamesprendergast7704
    @jamesprendergast7704 Місяць тому +1

    Nice to know I'd be cool. I'm a stones throw from the PA national guard station.

  • @newnamesameperson397
    @newnamesameperson397 12 днів тому +1

    I hate how movies always depicts the military as being incompetent. I would have thought they would catch on to things easily instead of always acting confused

  • @ACMZ08
    @ACMZ08 8 днів тому

    So at the end of the vid, Charlie Frost from 2012 was also doing conspiracies on TWD?

  • @Mr.Thunderer
    @Mr.Thunderer 2 місяці тому +1

    Out of all places, it's Philly to survive...

  • @stavros1216
    @stavros1216 9 днів тому +1

    The Zombie Outbreak wouldn't have affected the world in the way it did if the world's militaries gathered necessary supplies, evacuated a proper amount of civilians in order to rebuild humanity afterwards, concentrated "survivors" in made-up safe zones in cities and then bombed the cities with nuclear bombs.
    Given that there are 15.000 nuclear warheads spread across multiple nations, a coordinated cleansing of the dead could occur.
    This wouldn't wipe out all the walkers but most certainly most of them, leaving smaller hords which could either be ignored, trapped or taken out by the remaining military forces.
    Afterwards, humanity could be rebuilt in a more sustainable and efficient manner, old cities slowly given back to nature and life for humanity could return back to normal within 1-2 decades.

  • @kaibrizbon
    @kaibrizbon 2 місяці тому +1

    Hold up, im a "Philly Boul", how did philly make it thru the bombs or not get bombed? Its the 1st capital, strategic, and extremely armed

  • @draggonsgate
    @draggonsgate Місяць тому

    Thing I don't quite get... We've seen NYC and ATL post Cobalt. From the looks of it, huge areas are left unscathed... so Cobalt was a big flop pretty much. In my demented mind, my portly little doppleganger Tobias survived Cobalt and built a thriving community on Terminal Island at the Port of Los Angeles... who knows, with Maddie and Alicia heading back to LA, maybe we'll find out 🙂

    • @antoniocarlosoliveira9146
      @antoniocarlosoliveira9146 Місяць тому +1

      The producers back in 2015 or 2016 , when fear was getting aired, confirmed that Tobias survived the L.A bombings , however, we havent heard from him since then ,another character presumed to be alive too is Alex, the asian girl from flight 462 , she just left in a boat and we havent seen her since .

    • @draggonsgate
      @draggonsgate Місяць тому +1

      @@antoniocarlosoliveira9146 She was still off the coast of CA, maybe her and Tobias are running a thriving little seaside community 🙂 Another character from the early shows I'd liked to have seen pull thru it Doc Exner. Her fate as well was kinda left up in the air, even though it was suggested she checked out... I'm still butthurt that a show with so much potential was intentionally destroyed.

  • @amkrause2004
    @amkrause2004 2 місяці тому +1

    Whatever happened to then folks in that prison? I remember aome old dude one eye joe or something riding up in a tank.

  • @ShapeShifter1800
    @ShapeShifter1800 2 місяці тому +1

    What music is that in 11:06.

  • @iamjoeysteel
    @iamjoeysteel Місяць тому +1

    Fear the Walking Dead S1 had to try so hard to make the walkers seem like a threat but it just fails. These things barely walk and we have more guns than people in the US. I just can't believe the mechanized military or even civilian militias wouldn't be able to keep them from snow balling.

    • @FA_Horus
      @FA_Horus Місяць тому

      It's not just the dead that you have to compete with, it's the panic of the living. That's what caused a lot of problems for the military once you start noticing it. They had to split resources to keep civilians safe as well as eliminating the dead

  • @JustAStronzoOnYT
    @JustAStronzoOnYT Місяць тому

    The only true "zombies vs the military" scenarios where shit will most likely have went down like if a apocalypse was to occur was during episodes in All Of Us Are Dead.

    • @outrider425
      @outrider425 Місяць тому

      that spec ops scene was fire 🔥

  • @TrainBoyproductions-uf4fm
    @TrainBoyproductions-uf4fm 17 днів тому

    I feel like the only lucky ones in the military would be the Navy because they'll be out at sea weather virus possibly couldn't get them

  • @daviscampbell9020
    @daviscampbell9020 2 місяці тому +2

    Shooting survivors is so dumb. It was only to do was to create an air of mistrust in the show.

  • @AndrewLoukidis-jr2bp
    @AndrewLoukidis-jr2bp 2 місяці тому

    No, not the Linc, don't bomb the Linc!

  • @B-zk9bt
    @B-zk9bt 2 місяці тому +3

    I know what I’m asking is weird, but does napalm even kill walkers?
    You need to damage their brains to kill them, so would it kill them?
    I’m genuinely curious about this.

    • @FA_Horus
      @FA_Horus Місяць тому +1

      It would immobilize them at least by melting them to the ground if the force of the explosion didn't put them down first

    • @gotanon9659
      @gotanon9659 18 днів тому

      It would have killed them within a minute

  • @ShapeShifter1800
    @ShapeShifter1800 Місяць тому

    What background music did you use for this video.

    • @Swell-Films
      @Swell-Films  Місяць тому

      All my music comes from the UA-cam audio library.
      I believe the tracks used in this video are,
      Caverns - Density & Time
      &
      No.8 requiem - Esther Abrami