Correction - Riley was a Sailor not a Marine, thank you to those that pointed this out. I am Canadian, so sometimes my wires get crossed when writing scripts featuring American Armed Forces
Hey, no problem at all! Keep up the great work! All I can say when I make a mistake on a vid is go "eh, learn from this and make the next one better!" You can do this man!
Imagine finally getting used to the dead and how to deal with them, getting walls up, growing crops and thinking "life goes on, this ain't so bad" only for a nut job to bring down a nuke😂
The walking dead seemed so realistic in the first few seassons. But I feel like at some point the writers were like "Does it matter what we write? They are already hooked completly!"
You’re definitely not wrong. That being said there are some things to still take away and enjoy from the franchise, specifically the new spin-offs, which have been pretty solid overall.
right, that’s what made it so fascinating and downright terrifying. It seemed like something that could actually happen. Wish they had kept it that way. Then they bring back a much missed character looooonnng after we had lost interest
@@HiroForHiroki I do agree I was thinking the same thing but teddy Before he died was a nuclear power, i do believe CRM Knows of nukes And nuclear bombs Around US but we’ve seen no such power
@@HiroForHiroki I do think the CRM is the strongest Right now, but teddy was the most powerful by far, if Morgan hadn’t stoped him he would’ve destroyed all of North America With the nukes☢️
The main problem with the Nuke Arc is that its not possible. The Pennsylvania wasn't capable of launching it's missiles. First of all, the ship was beached far from the water, which would have required a massive storm surge that would have had to severally damaged the sub and almost certainly knocked its weapons offline. However, launching a ballistic missile require the launch tubes to be submerged..
There's dead people walking around. Their universe does not have to conform to reality. Fiction is fiction for a reason. Expecting reality from is silly.
@@tabathacarruthers5122 oh wow. Man that totally ruined my immersion of the show with walking corpses. Whats up with peoples inability to separate fiction from reality these days? Always some "uhm acktually" types. Its a TV show.
It actually makes sense for the radiation to dissipate. Fallout is the radioactive particles that have been vaporized( glass, concrete,dust, other parts of people) and thrown up into the atmosphere by the bomb. Once all of that settles or falls into the ocean. The area would be perfectly safe to walk around. In fact, after dropping our nuclear test bombs out in the desert, 1945, United States military personnel were able to walk around the area in less than a month. Of course they couldn't spend too long there. But yeah within a few years the place would be completely livable. People live in Hiroshima and nakizaki today.
There’s still radiation present in Japan after the nuclear bombs. When buying green tea there’s issues of where it’s grown because radiation is present in matcha people buy
@@Someth1ngLight are you sure that radiation isn't from the Fukushima plant.... the nuclear plant that went critical less than like 10 years ago? Not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying Nagasaki and Hiroshima are still large and livable cities today. Radioactive fallout from nuclear bombs is all dependent on how high up it's detonated and what type of nuclear bomb it is. Radioactive fallout from a nuclear power plant will last much much longer, cuz we are dealing with much more stable Isotopes. Whereas the elements used in nuclear bombs have much much shorter half lives. That's why it's actually really easy to make a nuclear bomb, it's just really, really hard to get the materials. Cuz not only do you have to have the materials to make a nuclear reactor. But then you have to take those radioactive materials and enrich them to a point where they are incredibly unstable. And only one hit from another unstable element can lead to a chain reaction. This instability causes them to dissipate at much faster rates than radiation from a nuclear disaster from the power plant.
@@MASTEROFEVIL but it didn't take 70 years for people to start living their, or for radiation levels to drop to normal. Within a week it was 1/1,000,000th the amount of what you'd receive during the explosion
It has been confirmed by the showrunners that Alicia did in fact get in infected from the bite, and that she was able to recover from the infection (after a long period of illness) due to her absorbing a lot of radiation from the blood of one of the radioactive walkers earlier. As we can see in S8 of FEAR, radiation therapy does technically work against the zombie infection, but in (almost) every case the amount of radiation needed would also kill the person you're trying to cure
The story totally lost me when "Teddy" embalmmed all of his 23 victims and returning 22 of them to the locations he abducted them. There is no chance he'd not have been among suspects for every abduction that occurred within driving distance.
I feel like people have a drastic misunderstanding of nuclear weapons. They aren't explosions or effects the size of states... they are approximately the size of a medium city. It's idiotic to portray them as making multiple states unlivable. They don't have that level of effect...
@@josefmengele181 This type of bomb is not used, there is no news of such a weapon existing, because in a conflict the time for you, to rehabilitate the area and occupy it is important. In two years the central area of the explosion is already safe , including for reconstruction The nuclear mass of a hydrogen bomb is small, there are kg of nuclear material, to be spread over hundreds to thousands of km2 in the atmosphere.
A deranged serial killer being let loose in a zombie apocalypse sounds like it could've been a good idea. But they could've left out the whole nuke side plot
Fear was a wild and controversial ride. Sometimes it was kinda of strange, but def had some cool characters like both J.D, Al, Morgan for TWD, Strand, Alicia, Troy...
For some reason I got so excited when I saw the CRM knew about the nuke. And the fact that the CRM formed from the Pennsylvania national guard would mean they definitely have access to nukes probably.
@@Swell-Films agreed! I would have much preferred if John got the kill rather than Dakota. It would make sense because then without her leader Dakota would still choose to die.
Alycia reminded teddy of his mom. He knew the world was cruel and when a new one formed he wanted somebody he knew was Strong and Capable. Like alycia who sacrficed herself for her friends.
Knowing the Walking Dead, I'm honestly surprised that they didn't try to pull some dumbass "for some reason the zombies were unaffected by the nuke" garbage.
Crazy thing is if Morgan had not made it to the sub when he did Other places like Alexandria, The commonwealth, Omaha, Portland and The CRM would of been hit by these nukes. That might make Morgan and the rest of the fear characters the most important characters of the franchise because they stopped the earth from becoming uninhabitable and effecting every other show.
@@spongedog0013one there is a range so not another continent other the south america, two 10 warheads took out texas, 20 missiles your talking 200 warheads about half the US but barely the world.
@@spongedog0013 If you set off every nuclear weapon in the world AND let every nuclear plant go critical it still wouldn't be anywhere remotely enough to make the earth uninhabitable. Movies and media in general have given everybody the idea that nukes affect way larger areas than they actually do. In fact even in the show, if it were realistic, 10 of those warheads would only really affect a small part of Texas. Not basically the entire state. And after a few months the state would be pretty much completely safe to inhabit again. Nukes are deadly for sure. But nothing man-made is capable of destroying all life on the planet or the planet itself. The earth even recovered after the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs. And if that happened again it would be an extinction event for humans which is what it would basically take to achieve that.
I've met Nick Stahl (Riley), and John Glover (Teddy) at a convention in New Orleans, in 2020. And before anyone says that's not possible, due to the pandemic, Louisiana didn't shut down from the pandemic, until March. The convention was in January (the first weekend). Both were nice people. John grew up in my home state, which I thought was cool.
I discovered your Chanel a few days ago, and I gotta say keep up the good work my guy your content is really well made and informative your now one of my favourite TWD UA-camrs out there✌️
All while the main groups (Survivors, Saviors, The Governor's people, The Whisperers etc) have no idea this was going down. Though I'm guessing Rick himself knew at least about the radiation zone.
Nope the Nuclear Disaster in Texas happened in 2014 according to the fear Walking Dead Wikipedia rick blew up the bridge in 2013 the prison and the savior war all happened in 2012 season 2 of the Walking dead happened in between November and December of 2010 and January of 2011 the Wildfire Virus was discovered in April 15,2010 and the World ended in September 10,2010 when operation cobalt ended
I really enjoyed the Teddy storyline. He was a significant villain and incredibly interesting to watch. Unfortunately, the show completely jumped the shark and never, ever recovered.
One thing I hated about the show was nice and caring people die and the wicked people lived and got worse especially with that Alice want to be main girl and Victor I hated them oh and lame ass morgan who caused more deaths in twd and this show
@@dubuyajay9964 Pretty certain the entire west coast aside from Oregon has a massive saturation of Walkers and collapsed fast in lore....Hell, the fact that it took a nuke to "end" Texas (despite reality dictating that a single nuke wouldn't end an entire state, but whatever) plays off as the state being far more stubborn to die off/be overrun in the beginning. Then again, I'm giving the writers too much credit than possibly deserved here....
@@ZeroOne-mp1qevs dems who dont have a single state not run into deficit year after year. Youd all be earing your toenails if it werent for republicans 😂😂
You're not sacrificing honor by planting evidence to secure a conviction for a person you know for a 100% fact is guilty. These scenarios are quite literally a game of chess. There WILL be a winner and there WILL be a loser. It's not a thing of "the justice system will succeed if we just try hard enough" no, there are scenarios that if teddy played his cards right, which he did, he would never legally be able to be caught. That is why the ONLY, the literal ONLY option would have been to plant evidence. That's not sacrificing honor, that's reinforcing it by doing what needs to be done. We saw a similar situation in our own history with Ken Rex Mcelroy where the justice system had failed over and over and over until eventually the citizens took matters into their own hands and did what needed to be done. You earn your honor by doing that. Making the hard choices. That's where honor comes from.
Yes but from johns perspective, he absolutely did, regardless of how you or me see it. He felt such shame that he turned to alcohol, abandoned his family, and the career he built for years. If that’s not a sign of a man who feels he’s lost his honour, idk what is.
He eventually did find peace while not exactly in the bunker he was able to move past his obsession to save june from the stalkers and then once back inside the bunker found the last victim that was haunting him before get rescued by victors men after the bunker collapsed
@@xICEx_wolf then he proceeded to work for Victor in the hopes that he could make a difference. Then he realized he couldn't and tried to make a desperate escape. That escape failed and he was eaten alive. Even if he DID get the baby out.
Saw your video on the CRM, I’ve seen every piece of twd content nearly and didn’t know half of it. Also could barely bring myself to rewatch the last few seasons of fear for the teddy storyline. Earned a sub
As some terrorist attacks show, being "just crazy" is enough of a condition to commit mass murder, for example as revenge against the authorities, country and people who ignored or harassed you. So, I think it's not exactly lazy writing to have a character like that. There are guys like that, maybe just one in tens of millions.
So I think the explanation with Alicia is that she was infected with the virus and was going to turn but became incredibly sick due to the radiation and the radiation caused her cells to mutate thus effectively making her the only person on planet Earth immune to the Wildfire virus
So, is it EVER explained how the Submarine wound up in the middle of a desert, nowhere near the ocean? Like, I know the tides rise and fall, but I don't remember them ever falling THAT much.
Probably fairly well. They'd be screwed out of some major supplies, but low population density and good amount of guns and lots of nature to take advantage off could be very beneficial. One thing to consider though, is the danger of trying to traverse deep snow with dormant walkers buried down in it. Can imagine trying to wade through 5 feet of snow and getting grabbed by a buried frozen Walker.
@@EmXena315 Wouldn't the temperature essentially make the walkers completely immobile? They wouldn't die or feel it obviously but the cold should still affect them the same way it would a living person. Especially considering walkers are usually already decomposed which would make them more easy to freeze.
@@gagetaylor192 In Season 9 of the show, there is snow on the ground, and some walkers are appeared to be affected. Some of them completely frozen and unable to move, although still being "undead", and not fully dead.
To be honest, I didn’t watch this part of Fear The Walking Dead. I appreciate you explaining this story. Fear had its moments I’ll say that for sure lol but it was nice listening to this. It would be nice to hear a reference of the nuke in The Ones Who Live but we’ll have to wait
Ya bro it makes no sense in the show the cop who planted evidence to feel so guilty he would ruin his own life. Why the guilt if he was certain the guy he put away was a serial killer? It doesnt make sense.
It’s sad what happened to The Walking Dead universe/franchise. I stopped watching The Walking Dead after they killed off Carl and I couldn’t get past season two of fear. It seems the writers don’t give a shit and it’s just crap what they’re making but if the brain dead mass is like it have at it…..
i feel like an arc like this could be cool in a DIFFERENT story, but at least from what i’ve seen, the way twd show handles it is honestly hilarious like i have no other words for it it’s just funny to me
Fun fact the USS Pennsylvania was stationed in kings naval base in kingsland Georgia in real life, it’s undergoing maintenance in Washington DC right now though
I had heard for years that walking Dead was horrible after season 3, I have to say all the way up until season 8 it was a solid show for me I think it had clear concise plot lines it just had too many characters solo missions wrapped around the main mission to where you forget if they're making moves for themselves or the group
I never got into "Fear the Walking Dead" Forced myself to finish the OG series (the whispers and trash heap people bout lost me but Negan and company made up for it) the new new spin offs have kept me hooked but yes curious to know more bout the CRM nonsense and their mass killings
The area of Texas described in the video is maybe, maybe a third of the state. That's a lot of acerage left over. It's also sparsely populated, so it probably has a larger percentage of people who survived the initial virus.
Here’s something. Carol took over a large city with its own militairy right after the fall of the outer areas. Its said in the new season that omaha fell but the video only showed buildings on the outskirts. Also rick and michone seem to know nothing outside of where they are now.
Believe it or not the nuclear fallout from a Trident II ICBM isnt that much compared to other weapons. They explode in air not on ground contact. Vaporizing much of it fallout or throwing it into space. Most of its destructive power is from the shockwave or superheated air forced out by the explosion.
☆☆☆☆☆@Ty swell☆☆☆☆☆ I want to say thank you. Thank you for making such great walking dead story arc videos. Ive watched everyone of them over the last couple days and they are magnificent! As someone who has been watching faithfuly since episode#1 all those years ago, and has watched the series and spin-offs in their entirety at least 4 times throughout the years, I absolutely loved these vids! This has been an entertaining trip down memory lane for sure. To re-live some of my favorite story arcs in the way you've put them together has been an entertaining viewing experience! I know its hard work but please man, keep making these for all significant story arcs in TWD universe. Id love to see you weave some arcs together between shows and tell the larger overarching story between them while filling in time jumps. I do not usually leave comments complementing the channel creator of vids like this, but in this case I absolutely had to give you your flowers. 👏 👏 WELL DONE! Youve done something really great here! I've liked your vids and subscribed to your channel. I will recomend your channel and vids. I'll also share them in the appropriate places to try and drive some views and subs your way. Thanks again man!
I never got that part, the prison guard that enter and attacks Teddy seems like he was rotting for a week or two, but must have turned like 10 mins ago, at best.
@@Swell-Films right as a sailor in the Navy, you said he was a Marine. I'm just getting clarification I'm not as familiar with fear twd yet about to buy the DVD set and binge lol. Love the channel btw.
@@mortem-tyrannislol thank you, you could be right I might be mistaken. I’m not very familiar with the American navy as I’m Canadian, but I try my best lol
@@Swell-Films well I am quite familiar since I've been in both Army and Marine ROTC, Marine corps is a department of the navy but still very different. I was just trying not to be rude in correcting you lol.
Walking Dead has the same issue as Bethesda's Fallout games. They don't feel confident writing a civilization developing in the post-apocalypse (that isn't comically evil), so instead they build up a bit and tear it all down again. Hell, if the series ever center on Alexandria again, they'll probably have a zombie run through the place with a tractor or something
Cool recap &links on the TWDU . I stopped watching TWD after the original series now that the ones who live is on. The back story's timeline is good to know..
so what about north Texas ? like Dallas and Ok boarder ? there are a lot of lakes and farm land up there. Also I guess the writers didnt do any research on how fall out works . if that many Bombs " shown on the map" went off more than just Tx would be unlivable. Also there are 3 Nuclear power plants in Tx that are pretty big.. I would say making one of those exploded would have been a better story line.
Nuclear plants, even on Chernobyl scale failure, wouldn’t cause that much of an issue (at least American ones that is). It’s actually really cool just how safe those things are. It’s absurd, but entirely understandable lol
Not just nuclear power plants. We’ve got chemical plants all along the coast making things that would curl your hair to know about, all surrounded by residential neighborhoods. And a lot of those chemicals need temperature controlled storage. The Texas coastline would have gone up long before the Fear crew got there.
I haven’t watched fear because my sister watched it for me and was saying how unfortunately long it is so I been catching up on it by you thanks for the videos
Thank you for the synopsis it makes me thankful that I didn’t go on to the rest of the seasons after season three. That would’ve been such a waste of time.
Teddy works because he has intrinsic traits which are found throughout history in others like him who enthrall those who have lost value and faith in their place within society. Hearing the charismatic well-spoken words of someone who can offer you both tangible and philosophical hope for something better would be hard to resist especially in an already apocalyptic setting such as this. Then you find out he's just another Jim Jones who didn't drink the fruit punch.
If you havent already you should make more recaps of plot points from FTWD. I stopped watching fear after nick got gotted (s1-3 was really good) and ik about this event in texas but couldnt bother to watch fear the walking dead. Great video
Correction - Riley was a Sailor not a Marine, thank you to those that pointed this out.
I am Canadian, so sometimes my wires get crossed when writing scripts featuring American Armed Forces
You are absolutely killing it with these videos, I love this, I listen while I’m working, best to you Swell! Keep them coming!
us submariner would be more accurate but whyat the hell he in the sea .
Hey, no problem at all! Keep up the great work! All I can say when I make a mistake on a vid is go "eh, learn from this and make the next one better!" You can do this man!
Thanks for this video I've been curious.
Ah that explains it. We forget that in Canada most branches are combined into the CAF
Imagine finally getting used to the dead and how to deal with them, getting walls up, growing crops and thinking "life goes on, this ain't so bad" only for a nut job to bring down a nuke😂
Man it’s not too bad we got this
Nuke : hello there
All it takes is one asshole, and there's at least one in every group.
Fallout 76 be like
Kim Jung un
We don't talk about that waste of money @@TV_FilthyFrankREBORN
The walking dead seemed so realistic in the first few seassons. But I feel like at some point the writers were like "Does it matter what we write? They are already hooked completly!"
You’re definitely not wrong. That being said there are some things to still take away and enjoy from the franchise, specifically the new spin-offs, which have been pretty solid overall.
Alpha and Beta arc had me bout to quit but i wanted to finish the series
@@MissyMuthaTruckiN To be fair, that arc is from the comics.
right, that’s what made it so fascinating and downright terrifying. It seemed like something that could actually happen. Wish they had kept it that way. Then they bring back a much missed character looooonnng after we had lost interest
Yah but fear the walking dead was crazy from day one
Teddy by far was the most destructive character in TWD universe by far
By far?
@@HiroForHiroki I do agree I was thinking the same thing but teddy Before he died was a nuclear power, i do believe CRM Knows of nukes And nuclear bombs Around US but we’ve seen no such power
Reminds me of far cry 5 villain and hippie serial killer charles mason
@@HiroForHiroki I do think the CRM is the strongest Right now, but teddy was the most powerful by far, if Morgan hadn’t stoped him he would’ve destroyed all of North America With the nukes☢️
@@HiroForHiroki I do agree That the CRM Is strongest right now but teddy Is by far. He was a nuclear Power and had the power to end North America
The main problem with the Nuke Arc is that its not possible. The Pennsylvania wasn't capable of launching it's missiles. First of all, the ship was beached far from the water, which would have required a massive storm surge that would have had to severally damaged the sub and almost certainly knocked its weapons offline. However, launching a ballistic missile require the launch tubes to be submerged..
There's dead people walking around. Their universe does not have to conform to reality. Fiction is fiction for a reason. Expecting reality from is silly.
It’s a show about zombies, I think the line for realism was crossed a long time ago
I agree. A sub on land can't launch missiles. The land would block the launch tubes unless it was upside down or on its side.
@@tabathacarruthers5122 oh wow. Man that totally ruined my immersion of the show with walking corpses.
Whats up with peoples inability to separate fiction from reality these days? Always some "uhm acktually" types. Its a TV show.
Heyyy fyi zombies ain't real
Being a Texan, I hate and love the fact Robert Kirkman decided to turn Texas into The Green Sea from Fallout :)
there arent radscorpions in texas???
Robert Kirkman had nothing to do with the poor storytelling that seasons 5-8 of fear are. He hardly had anything to do with fear 1-3, too.
Glowing sea*
As a Virginian I noticed mostly just dead grass and concrete, the cities and food were great tho
@@TITANICLUSITANIAso what he only really worked on season 4 then?
It actually makes sense for the radiation to dissipate. Fallout is the radioactive particles that have been vaporized( glass, concrete,dust, other parts of people) and thrown up into the atmosphere by the bomb. Once all of that settles or falls into the ocean. The area would be perfectly safe to walk around. In fact, after dropping our nuclear test bombs out in the desert, 1945, United States military personnel were able to walk around the area in less than a month. Of course they couldn't spend too long there. But yeah within a few years the place would be completely livable. People live in Hiroshima and nakizaki today.
There’s still radiation present in Japan after the nuclear bombs. When buying green tea there’s issues of where it’s grown because radiation is present in matcha people buy
@@Someth1ngLight are you sure that radiation isn't from the Fukushima plant.... the nuclear plant that went critical less than like 10 years ago? Not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying Nagasaki and Hiroshima are still large and livable cities today. Radioactive fallout from nuclear bombs is all dependent on how high up it's detonated and what type of nuclear bomb it is. Radioactive fallout from a nuclear power plant will last much much longer, cuz we are dealing with much more stable Isotopes. Whereas the elements used in nuclear bombs have much much shorter half lives. That's why it's actually really easy to make a nuclear bomb, it's just really, really hard to get the materials. Cuz not only do you have to have the materials to make a nuclear reactor. But then you have to take those radioactive materials and enrich them to a point where they are incredibly unstable. And only one hit from another unstable element can lead to a chain reaction. This instability causes them to dissipate at much faster rates than radiation from a nuclear disaster from the power plant.
@@Someth1ngLightRadiation readings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki are the exact same as everywhere else in the world.
That was over 70 years ago
@@MASTEROFEVIL but it didn't take 70 years for people to start living their, or for radiation levels to drop to normal. Within a week it was 1/1,000,000th the amount of what you'd receive during the explosion
It has been confirmed by the showrunners that Alicia did in fact get in infected from the bite, and that she was able to recover from the infection (after a long period of illness) due to her absorbing a lot of radiation from the blood of one of the radioactive walkers earlier. As we can see in S8 of FEAR, radiation therapy does technically work against the zombie infection, but in (almost) every case the amount of radiation needed would also kill the person you're trying to cure
quickly checked with the wiki, the radioactive walker event happened in S5 EP7, "Still standing"
So is she alive
@@hollyRussell-ji9su Alicia is alive yes. She shows up in the last episode of S8 of FEAR
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Yes in the finale. Alicia is fear's rick@@hollyRussell-ji9su
The story totally lost me when "Teddy" embalmmed all of his 23 victims and returning 22 of them to the locations he abducted them. There is no chance he'd not have been among suspects for every abduction that occurred within driving distance.
Yeah Texas wouldn't be suspicious of some hippy running around suspicious murders
I feel like people have a drastic misunderstanding of nuclear weapons. They aren't explosions or effects the size of states... they are approximately the size of a medium city. It's idiotic to portray them as making multiple states unlivable. They don't have that level of effect...
Exactly. Maybe the czar bomba. But most are smaller than a medium size city.
Radiation sure does
@@josefmengele181 dissipates quickly, within 2 months it will be safe to walk in the central area of the explosion.
@@ricke4492 not if it's colbalt 60 that stays for centuries
@@josefmengele181 This type of bomb is not used, there is no news of such a weapon existing, because in a conflict the time for you, to rehabilitate the area and occupy it is important. In two years the central area of the explosion is already safe , including for reconstruction The nuclear mass of a hydrogen bomb is small, there are kg of nuclear material, to be spread over hundreds to thousands of km2 in the atmosphere.
A deranged serial killer being let loose in a zombie apocalypse sounds like it could've been a good idea. But they could've left out the whole nuke side plot
Fear was a wild and controversial ride. Sometimes it was kinda of strange, but def had some cool characters like both J.D, Al, Morgan for TWD, Strand, Alicia, Troy...
Morgan ruined the show
For some reason I got so excited when I saw the CRM knew about the nuke. And the fact that the CRM formed from the Pennsylvania national guard would mean they definitely have access to nukes probably.
the fact that crm is ex national guard, we finaslly get some answers
Same for me too. I’ve lived in pa my whole life so to find out in twd that Philly ended up being the biggest group in the story was dope
I don't think there are nuclear weapons in PA
" they definitely have nukes probably " 😂
@@Cole-by9xscan’t make that shit up😂
I have always loved dead in the water and the way it connected things to teddy
I thought it was solid! The revelation of nuclear orders being given in operation cobalt is a great ending.
Shame his ending is so weak in the show.
@@Swell-Films agreed! I would have much preferred if John got the kill rather than Dakota. It would make sense because then without her leader Dakota would still choose to die.
No one find it odd the sailor with the nuke key is Nick Stahl who plays John Connor trying to stop the world going nuclear.
That was him?
Man, the thumbnail goes hard.
Thanks mate! I was pretty proud of it lol
John dorie Jr was my favorite character from fear.
I think that is the only correct answer
I miss him so much. He absolutely carried seasons 4&5 especially.
I miss him so much. He absolutely carried seasons 4&5 especially.
Sadly Garret seen where the show was headed an didn't wanna be apart of it another mistake they made
the show died with him imo
Alycia reminded teddy of his mom. He knew the world was cruel and when a new one formed he wanted somebody he knew was Strong and Capable. Like alycia who sacrficed herself for her friends.
Knowing the Walking Dead, I'm honestly surprised that they didn't try to pull some dumbass "for some reason the zombies were unaffected by the nuke" garbage.
Crazy thing is if Morgan had not made it to the sub when he did Other places like Alexandria, The commonwealth, Omaha, Portland and The CRM would of been hit by these nukes. That might make Morgan and the rest of the fear characters the most important characters of the franchise because they stopped the earth from becoming uninhabitable and effecting every other show.
The United state is not the entire world
@@chookkihe probably would of target other contentions
@@spongedog0013one there is a range so not another continent other the south america, two 10 warheads took out texas, 20 missiles your talking 200 warheads about half the US but barely the world.
@@chookki ARE YOU GONNA WATCH TWD: CHINA? NO? EXACTLY
@@spongedog0013 If you set off every nuclear weapon in the world AND let every nuclear plant go critical it still wouldn't be anywhere remotely enough to make the earth uninhabitable. Movies and media in general have given everybody the idea that nukes affect way larger areas than they actually do. In fact even in the show, if it were realistic, 10 of those warheads would only really affect a small part of Texas. Not basically the entire state. And after a few months the state would be pretty much completely safe to inhabit again. Nukes are deadly for sure. But nothing man-made is capable of destroying all life on the planet or the planet itself. The earth even recovered after the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs. And if that happened again it would be an extinction event for humans which is what it would basically take to achieve that.
I've met Nick Stahl (Riley), and John Glover (Teddy) at a convention in New Orleans, in 2020. And before anyone says that's not possible, due to the pandemic, Louisiana didn't shut down from the pandemic, until March. The convention was in January (the first weekend). Both were nice people. John grew up in my home state, which I thought was cool.
I’m sorry but this story seems like it was written in high school. What happened to TWD’s creative writing?
Oh it's creative alright. Doesn't make it engaging or coherent.
Lmao twd never had any logic to begin with
After the two idiot fairytale writers were hired the show went down faster than my girlfriend.
@@davidbrakefield188😮
Well they didn’t have a graphic novel to go off of anymore, and had already embraced they “just add shit to prolong the life of the show” mentality
0:22 That episode intro makes me think of me of Far Cry 5.
I discovered your Chanel a few days ago, and I gotta say keep up the good work my guy your content is really well made and informative your now one of my favourite TWD UA-camrs out there✌️
Thanks so much mate! Appreciate the support!
All while the main groups (Survivors, Saviors, The Governor's people, The Whisperers etc) have no idea this was going down. Though I'm guessing Rick himself knew at least about the radiation zone.
Nope the Nuclear Disaster in Texas happened in 2014 according to the fear Walking Dead Wikipedia rick blew up the bridge in 2013 the prison and the savior war all happened in 2012 season 2 of the Walking dead happened in between November and December of 2010 and January of 2011 the Wildfire Virus was discovered in April 15,2010 and the World ended in September 10,2010 when operation cobalt ended
this video was great, underrated content creator
Thanks mate!
Season 6 for sure one of the best seasons of Fear. Loved the nuclear submarine arc. Love the little detail in TWD TOWL intro.
Are you serious? That's was a horrible season.
I really enjoyed the Teddy storyline. He was a significant villain and incredibly interesting to watch. Unfortunately, the show completely jumped the shark and never, ever recovered.
One thing I hated about the show was nice and caring people die and the wicked people lived and got worse especially with that Alice want to be main girl and Victor I hated them oh and lame ass morgan who caused more deaths in twd and this show
@@Mikhail210 I never understood why anyone thought Morgan was a good character. He was good in TWD pilot, but ever other appearance was just terrible.
Walker looking at a survivor after a nuke goes off like,” what is up soothskin?” lol 😂
I think teddy was the walking dead's own charles manson
Yeah the writers probably wanted Charles Manson like cult leader in fear the walking dead
that makes sense, never watched it but his character def gives that vibe!
Na they played farcry 5 and thought hey it the in thing now
@@Mikhail210 PREPARE FOR THE REAPINGGGG
It seems like they had so much time to move around while the missile was just flying around in space waiting for the perfect moment to detonate.
Wdym “flying around in space”
13:27 You realize how big Texas is? It would take lots of nukes to stop make it uninhabitable.
They literally had to nuke Texas for us to not play a major role in TWD 😂
Cowards. Of course Commiefornia has to dunk on Texas.
@@dubuyajay9964 Pretty certain the entire west coast aside from Oregon has a massive saturation of Walkers and collapsed fast in lore....Hell, the fact that it took a nuke to "end" Texas (despite reality dictating that a single nuke wouldn't end an entire state, but whatever) plays off as the state being far more stubborn to die off/be overrun in the beginning. Then again, I'm giving the writers too much credit than possibly deserved here....
@@dubuyajay9964 repubs when one state props up 20 of their own states
@@ZeroOne-mp1qe Who props up who? Last I checked, most blue states and cities are drowning in debt.
@@ZeroOne-mp1qevs dems who dont have a single state not run into deficit year after year. Youd all be earing your toenails if it werent for republicans 😂😂
The plot holes are so wild
You're not sacrificing honor by planting evidence to secure a conviction for a person you know for a 100% fact is guilty. These scenarios are quite literally a game of chess. There WILL be a winner and there WILL be a loser. It's not a thing of "the justice system will succeed if we just try hard enough" no, there are scenarios that if teddy played his cards right, which he did, he would never legally be able to be caught. That is why the ONLY, the literal ONLY option would have been to plant evidence. That's not sacrificing honor, that's reinforcing it by doing what needs to be done. We saw a similar situation in our own history with Ken Rex Mcelroy where the justice system had failed over and over and over until eventually the citizens took matters into their own hands and did what needed to be done. You earn your honor by doing that. Making the hard choices. That's where honor comes from.
Yes but from johns perspective, he absolutely did, regardless of how you or me see it.
He felt such shame that he turned to alcohol, abandoned his family, and the career he built for years.
If that’s not a sign of a man who feels he’s lost his honour, idk what is.
i remember this show was about surviving the apocalypse
Great job putting this together. I know it must have been painful narrating this based off the series writers poor vision.
It very much was haha. I appreciate it!
John dorie Sr Did NOT find peace lol. He actually started to get worse trapped in teddys bunker
He eventually did find peace while not exactly in the bunker he was able to move past his obsession to save june from the stalkers and then once back inside the bunker found the last victim that was haunting him before get rescued by victors men after the bunker collapsed
@@xICEx_wolf then he proceeded to work for Victor in the hopes that he could make a difference. Then he realized he couldn't and tried to make a desperate escape.
That escape failed and he was eaten alive. Even if he DID get the baby out.
Well done 👏🏽
Really liking your videos and style, really cool to see for the World of TWD. Thanks!
Thanks mate! I appreciate that
Thanks!
Hey thanks so much that’s very kind!
I randomly found this channel and let me tell you. That thumbnail goes hard af and the video is just what I needed to finish my dinner
Thanks so much!
16:01 my city got hit by the Nuke am from Port Arthur
I used to do jobs in Port Arthur. I loved eating at the Hamburger Depot and La vaquita
@@Jescon96my dad was in Port Arthur in 2010
Saw your video on the CRM, I’ve seen every piece of twd content nearly and didn’t know half of it. Also could barely bring myself to rewatch the last few seasons of fear for the teddy storyline. Earned a sub
As some terrorist attacks show, being "just crazy" is enough of a condition to commit mass murder, for example as revenge against the authorities, country and people who ignored or harassed you. So, I think it's not exactly lazy writing to have a character like that. There are guys like that, maybe just one in tens of millions.
So I think the explanation with Alicia is that she was infected with the virus and was going to turn but became incredibly sick due to the radiation and the radiation caused her cells to mutate thus effectively making her the only person on planet Earth immune to the Wildfire virus
So, is it EVER explained how the Submarine wound up in the middle of a desert, nowhere near the ocean? Like, I know the tides rise and fall, but I don't remember them ever falling THAT much.
It's in the webisodes
Last time I checked, Galveston was no where near a desert. It is on the Gulf coast of Texas. Did you know that some beaches have sand?
patrolling texas almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
I didn't watch any of the Dead in the water episodes...so thanks for doing this video, very informative 😁
Sometimes I wonder how the small towns in Alaska are doing while the rest of the US does his thing
Probably fairly well. They'd be screwed out of some major supplies, but low population density and good amount of guns and lots of nature to take advantage off could be very beneficial. One thing to consider though, is the danger of trying to traverse deep snow with dormant walkers buried down in it. Can imagine trying to wade through 5 feet of snow and getting grabbed by a buried frozen Walker.
They would freeze to death
@@EmXena315 Wouldn't the temperature essentially make the walkers completely immobile? They wouldn't die or feel it obviously but the cold should still affect them the same way it would a living person. Especially considering walkers are usually already decomposed which would make them more easy to freeze.
@@gagetaylor192 In Season 9 of the show, there is snow on the ground, and some walkers are appeared to be affected. Some of them completely frozen and unable to move, although still being "undead", and not fully dead.
7:43 Morgan is literally playing hitman walking dead
Not every character survived the fallout. (Which is disappinting since most of them just disapeared afterwards amyways)
0:53 ngl that headline is good 😂
Those radiation cones at 16:02 need to fan out a little bit more.
Its more of a 30 to 45 degree cone depending on the size of the nuke.
To be honest, I didn’t watch this part of Fear The Walking Dead. I appreciate you explaining this story. Fear had its moments I’ll say that for sure lol but it was nice listening to this. It would be nice to hear a reference of the nuke in The Ones Who Live but we’ll have to wait
They already did mention it retrd😂go watch lol
When did they mention it then huh?😂 at least give the information before insulting someone lol
I missed a lot of this part of the show, thanks for filling in the blanks. Yes, I can rewatch, but I don't want to.
One of my fav swell films video to date and I hate fear 🔥🔥🔥
Don’t we all 💀
Ya bro it makes no sense in the show the cop who planted evidence to feel so guilty he would ruin his own life. Why the guilt if he was certain the guy he put away was a serial killer? It doesnt make sense.
Texas becoming new vegas lol
yoooo i just realized thats john glover never thought i'd see him in a zombie show
Teddy on that "The Fate of Destruction is also the Joy of Rebirth" grindset
It’s sad what happened to The Walking Dead universe/franchise. I stopped watching The Walking Dead after they killed off Carl and I couldn’t get past season two of fear. It seems the writers don’t give a shit and it’s just crap what they’re making but if the brain dead mass is like it have at it…..
Bro watching this video was way more entertaining than watching those seasons 😂
Why is Morgan the only one that had that crazy half zombie situation? No one in any other show had it happen
Nice video. Good video
i feel like an arc like this could be cool in a DIFFERENT story, but at least from what i’ve seen, the way twd show handles it is honestly hilarious
like i have no other words for it it’s just funny to me
I agree fully. A nuke storyline could work if it wasn’t pulled out of their ass lol
These videos show how much I need to catch up on 😂
I really like Victor, his character is very unusual. The true manipulator and he changes sides to the winning one during wars and interactions.
And ut also has a great actor behind it. Oscar Nominee Colman Domingo!
4:30 You mean sailor.. lol
Fun fact the USS Pennsylvania was stationed in kings naval base in kingsland Georgia in real life, it’s undergoing maintenance in Washington DC right now though
Trident II is no joke, each missile can carry 24 nuclear warheads
There was a missed chance to call the exodus from Texas the Texodus, but great video either way!
Haha shit you’re so right
What was the original infection vector? How did these guys in the submarine get infected?
They needed 8 seasons for this? Jesus
Finally I know what’s happening in this mess of a show
Writing it into a coherent story was tough not gonna lie lol
@@Swell-Films watching this show was tough ngl
I had heard for years that walking Dead was horrible after season 3, I have to say all the way up until season 8 it was a solid show for me I think it had clear concise plot lines it just had too many characters solo missions wrapped around the main mission to where you forget if they're making moves for themselves or the group
@@torreytaylor1073 this is fear the walking dead which after season 1 was just hot shit
I never got into "Fear the Walking Dead" Forced myself to finish the OG series (the whispers and trash heap people bout lost me but Negan and company made up for it) the new new spin offs have kept me hooked but yes curious to know more bout the CRM nonsense and their mass killings
The area of Texas described in the video is maybe, maybe a third of the state. That's a lot of acerage left over. It's also sparsely populated, so it probably has a larger percentage of people who survived the initial virus.
Here’s something. Carol took over a large city with its own militairy right after the fall of the outer areas. Its said in the new season that omaha fell but the video only showed buildings on the outskirts. Also rick and michone seem to know nothing outside of where they are now.
Believe it or not the nuclear fallout from a Trident II ICBM isnt that much compared to other weapons. They explode in air not on ground contact. Vaporizing much of it fallout or throwing it into space. Most of its destructive power is from the shockwave or superheated air forced out by the explosion.
This is the case of all currently deployed warheads. Airburst nukes are vastly more destructive, no one sets their warheads for ground detonation.
Interesting. I haven't watched fear but love twd. I imagine the crm was worried when this happened.
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I want to say thank you. Thank you for making such great walking dead story arc videos. Ive watched everyone of them over the last couple days and they are magnificent! As someone who has been watching faithfuly since episode#1 all those years ago, and has watched the series and spin-offs in their entirety at least 4 times throughout the years, I absolutely loved these vids! This has been an entertaining trip down memory lane for sure. To re-live some of my favorite story arcs in the way you've put them together has been an entertaining viewing experience! I know its hard work but please man, keep making these for all significant story arcs in TWD universe. Id love to see you weave some arcs together between shows and tell the larger overarching story between them while filling in time jumps. I do not usually leave comments complementing the channel creator of vids like this, but in this case I absolutely had to give you your flowers. 👏 👏 WELL DONE! Youve done something really great here! I've liked your vids and subscribed to your channel. I will recomend your channel and vids. I'll also share them in the appropriate places to try and drive some views and subs your way. Thanks again man!
AGREED! 👏
Idea for next video: full explanation of the variants, Genet's group, the Primrose and Violet teams and the creation of the virus 🔥
Are you psychic? I’m literally writing that as we speak lol
@@Swell-Films damnnnn bro can't fuckin wait 🔥
It can't be spring if your heart is filled with past failures.
TLDR: mad-man cult leader turns texas into the glowing sea
I never got that part, the prison guard that enter and attacks Teddy seems like he was rotting for a week or two, but must have turned like 10 mins ago, at best.
The first season of the walking dead was so good what the hell happened...
"Our story starts in 1970"
Am I watching the right Walking Dead as you?
Wasnt Riley a sailor in the Navy not a Marine?
Riley served as a lieutenant and weapons officer
@@Swell-Films right as a sailor in the Navy, you said he was a Marine. I'm just getting clarification I'm not as familiar with fear twd yet about to buy the DVD set and binge lol. Love the channel btw.
@@mortem-tyrannislol thank you, you could be right I might be mistaken.
I’m not very familiar with the American navy as I’m Canadian, but I try my best lol
@@Swell-Films well I am quite familiar since I've been in both Army and Marine ROTC, Marine corps is a department of the navy but still very different. I was just trying not to be rude in correcting you lol.
@@mortem-tyrannis well I appreciate it, tbh the ranks still confuse me even after researching
Teddy looks like the lady animal teacher from amazing world of gumball LMFAOOOO
Walking Dead has the same issue as Bethesda's Fallout games. They don't feel confident writing a civilization developing in the post-apocalypse (that isn't comically evil), so instead they build up a bit and tear it all down again.
Hell, if the series ever center on Alexandria again, they'll probably have a zombie run through the place with a tractor or something
Cool recap &links on the TWDU . I stopped watching TWD after the original series now that the ones who live is on. The back story's timeline is good to know..
so what about north Texas ? like Dallas and Ok boarder ? there are a lot of lakes and farm land up there. Also I guess the writers didnt do any research on how fall out works . if that many Bombs " shown on the map" went off more than just Tx would be unlivable. Also there are 3 Nuclear power plants in Tx that are pretty big.. I would say making one of those exploded would have been a better story line.
Nuclear plants, even on Chernobyl scale failure, wouldn’t cause that much of an issue (at least American ones that is).
It’s actually really cool just how safe those things are. It’s absurd, but entirely understandable lol
Not just nuclear power plants. We’ve got chemical plants all along the coast making things that would curl your hair to know about, all surrounded by residential neighborhoods. And a lot of those chemicals need temperature controlled storage. The Texas coastline would have gone up long before the Fear crew got there.
I haven’t watched fear because my sister watched it for me and was saying how unfortunately long it is so I been catching up on it by you thanks for the videos
Thank you for the synopsis it makes me thankful that I didn’t go on to the rest of the seasons after season three. That would’ve been such a waste of time.
Teddy works because he has intrinsic traits which are found throughout history in others like him who enthrall those who have lost value and faith in their place within society.
Hearing the charismatic well-spoken words of someone who can offer you both tangible and philosophical hope for something better would be hard to resist especially in an already apocalyptic setting such as this.
Then you find out he's just another Jim Jones who didn't drink the fruit punch.
Fear didn't jump the shark. It flew a beer shaped balloon over it.
Lmao thats not how nukes work at all
it’s the walking dead what’d you expect lmao
@@thick_shady420 I had low expectations and they still managed to undershoot
Good video mate
Thanks bro!
Seems like the love child of Manson and Bundy.
If you havent already you should make more recaps of plot points from FTWD. I stopped watching fear after nick got gotted (s1-3 was really good) and ik about this event in texas but couldnt bother to watch fear the walking dead. Great video
The one man the CRM feared most
W. Thanks for this amazing explanation, Bro. Lol.