The thing about Oyasumi Punpun is that the author Asano Inio is heavily nihilistic, and despises the idea of escapism. Because of this, the manga takes very real, deep looks into issues like domestic abuse, sex, depression, and suicide. The issue for me at least is that after a certain point the manga becomes an almost never-ending stream of sadness and depression. That's why I enjoy manga like Fullmetal Alchemist more, because they tackle serious issues in both positive and healthy ways. I appreciate Oyasumi Punpun as a manga and am glad it exists, but sometimes I feel like it wallows in its negativity, which is both its greatest strength and biggest weakness.
Agree and even Asano agrees, he said that he felt he went too far into the pessimistic view. Still, the ending in my mind is optimistic, albeit, as optimistic as nihilism can get.
The uncle was good... At least to Punpun 🙃 That's the thing about being an adult who is taking care of a kid. You have to be a good example, no matter how bad the situation is. You need to be calm and collected, get your shit together even if your shit isn't getting together. 🙃 Also, we all have a different side that we only show to a specific group of ppl. At the end of the day, we are all broken in different ways.
If Grant & Connor already had this much of an emotional reaction with the beginning of Oyasumi Punpun it makes me wonder how they would feel if they decided to finish the series.
Try traumatizing, with where it left me, there should be a warning, don't read if you've had PPD, if your optimistic, depressed, or your son's in middle school. This is not a cutesy slice of life. Completely nihilistic. Yeah I was left feeling empty and broken
I feel like this Manga reminds me so much of Moral Orel. How it stared as a comedy and then revealed the darkness in the town he lived in and the truth behind his home life.
When I re-read this manga I was able pick up on certain small things that happen with young punpun that influence him as he gets older and it made me appreciate the manga even more.
I think another reason punpun is a bird is because of the halo effect. The horrible acts characters commit are often overlooked because they're good looking.
Even without that hint at the end you can tell they're normal humans. Obviously because of the way they act and live their lives but also there's another detail. Everytime you see Punpun's or any other family member's hand too close, it's always dark but it's always the shape of a human hand.
I have never read Goodnight Punpun but after hearing the whole family situation i will be reading it once i finish solanin. Cause i experienced the same shit. My parents never got divorced for "my" sake and continued fighting and it has impacted me in good and bad ways i love stories that touch me or i can relate to so i will have to give it a try.
Solanin is much more "trivial" I'd say, in the sense that you watch the struggles of the FMC as an teenager reaching adulthood. Don't get me wrong, I love Solanin so much, but the depth of emotions can't be compared with Punpun, we see him grow and become just like us, sometimes making the same mistakes we did when we were younger, and sometimes sticking to memories of the past just like we did. There were moments I cried while reading just thinking "don't do it, Punpun, you will regret it later", and it happens and makes him depressed. The quality of writing from Inio Asano is out of the roof in this work, truly relatable characters and clearly describring and depicting feelings.
I've read it 3 times. These guys are so not ready for what happens in his adolescence and adulthood. His life is death by 1000 cuts and dam that eventually bursts. But it's beautiful manga and I love it so much as a survivor of an abusive/toxic family.
@@golagiswatchingyou2966 idk man, things were said and done that can't be taken back 💀 and at least in my interpretation, things are not okay in the end.
"Everyone is bad" Heiroku Shishido, the real estate old man was a good guy, as well that one friend of his when he was an adult. There is a good amount of good characters, but the story focuses on the broken characters.
The realest thing that depresses me about punpun is that one panel in the early chapters where all the kids are holding hands & looking at the stars near the abandoned factory but later as the story progresses they slowly turn into strangers & drift away from one another
I listened to a band called Thank You Scientist for the first time the other day. In the music video for FXMLDR the Drummer had a Oyasumi Pun Pun shirt on. Music aside, THAT was the best first impression I could have gotten from them.
I'm reading the first volume and my take is that, like having 'God' as a coping mechanism, the drawing style represents PunPuns way of seeing the world to remove himself from the realism of what's happening around him.
while punpun is my number one favorite piece of media i ever consumed. I would never in a million year try to read it again for the depression it once gave me. I felt like in a black hole going deeper and deeper
Goodnight Pun Pun is one of the greatest mangas written. It's the manga we didn't ask for but it's the manga the world needs to exist. As a medium of art, expression and reflection.
I'm about halfway into Vol. 3 just 2 days ago when I just randomly snapped and stopped reading due to how it's psychologically affecting me. Now I'm in a limbo whether I continue it or not.
I hope they both finish it. It might be considered a slog to get through, but the complete story will likely change both of their lives. Sounds like Garnt is already primed for that experience, not sure if it would have the same effect on Connor. Then again, they aren't really very far at all, so maybe I'm totally wrong!
I’m 4 volumes into goodnight punpun and it’s already one of the best stories I’ve read, probably not a great choice for first manga but god damn is it good
The reason he’s depicted as a bird is partly because the author wanted people to keep reading, and by having someone that looks like a human do all the messed up things he does, it can be hard to read. It’s still hard to read but it certainly helps. Also he’s not always a bird, and as he changes forms we keep more of an understanding of how he’s feeling at that point in time. It helps the author convey emotions
As someone who has yet to read punpun my favourite thing about punpun is that its so satisfying to collect the volume's since all the volume's together make punpun
A few a year ago. I kinda remember punpun. I read all of it. I read he have a difficult time getting a girlfriend or be in a relationship with someone. He was weird and crazy. I felt like the characters is me. but i have a difference situation because of my intellectual disability and speaking impediment . I never have a girlfriend or no friends help me grow up. I want always alone nobody understand me. I never have a role model growing up. My parents love me. I never hate my parents but i keep" blaming" them. For making me disability. They are still married after 40 years. I was very angry with life. Right now , i am going to therapy and joining a community.
To be honest I want/need to see an episode when both are finished with the manga.... (currently on volume 8 and preparing for the suffering of the rest....)
the only time ive read this manga is because im depressed and i told myself that ill read this popular manga before i do it, then after ive finshed reading it ive realize that my life is so much fcking better than i thought
Man, I REALLY want to see theor reaction to Punpun's parents once they know the whole story and what happened that morning. Also, to that scene when he's a teenager we all know.
The author is a known and outspoken nihilist, and i think that the story starts out with that really being a narrative strength, and by the end of the story it really gets in its own way. At some point, it just becomes a hopeless soul crushing torture porn with no escape. And no matter how jaded you might feel and how miserable and truly awful life can be sometime , you really need to still show glimmers of hope. I just can't get behind how over the head this manga bashes you with the depressing scenarios after a certain point. I know some people's lives are TRULY that miserable, but.....I don't want to see a story like that. There's nothing to be gained, or learned after a certain point.
Despite punpuns life just getting progressively worse. I think the ending to be hopeful to a certain extent. A bunch of dysfunctional deeply scared people, just trying to continue on with their lifes...
@vingvingduy1779 i guess it is somewhat. I definitely think he periodically lost the plot, especially at the last few chapters where it stopped offering anything of value. It was just an exercise in misery without focus or anything to be learned or gained from it
@@spiderdude2099 i see the whole manga as a character study. And asano inio delivered on that front imo. Every single character is multi faceted and interesting to follow (except for maybe pegasus).
@spiderdude2099 I think it's ultimately weirdly the most hopeful because this shit does exist in humanity and it goes there. the most depraved humans can be, but there is still hope even after that
"you really need to still show glimmers of hope." Why? There's value in stories that show no hope. There is value in stories that are overly and naively hopeful. There is value in stories in between and even bitersweet. There is value in variety and people want and need different kinds of narratives at different times. It's like when someone tries to be a 'fixer' in real life. It may or not be useful but sometimes people just need to be able to feel - and sometimes that's to wallow in sadness and negativity. Of course, things have balance and people shouldn't stay there forever, but back to stories, there's nothing wrong with not having a glimmer of hope.
"it ends on a double page spread" uh does it? My final volume is just the girl in a field with clouds that may or may not look like or imply punpun as dead or the pov of the image?
@@neloverg3774 I literally dont have that? volume 7 of the english edition ends with the new transfer student etc "whats normal" "did you know? humanity is done for" genuinely no clue what photo you mean I checked online and physical volume
It's pretty good but not as gut punching as I had hoped. Punpun's life seems pretty good but feels horrible because reasons? Ending is pretty sad though.
Yeah I get where Garnt and Connor are coming from with the idea that even if the stuff that happens in Punpun early on hasn't happened to you its characterization and presentation of it just makes you relate or at least sympathize with it. You know how punpun feels not in a surface level way but like you really feel like you feel what he is feeling and having relevant experiences or at least something that could tie you at all to any of those scenarios in even the slightest way makes it drastically uncomfortable and empathetic yet engaging and uneasy. This was originally going to be way longer of a comment on the uncomfortable similarities between some stuff in punpun and my own experiences as a kid but decided it didn't need to be in a comment. Short version is the more you can understand where punpun's or his uncle's or any other character's in that manga's head is at as the bad and uncomfortable stuff happens the more I found it not just resonating with me more but completely taken back by just how real these characters and events feel. It's insane that rather than me thinking about how I relate to how X character feels or is acting and instead felt like I was next to people I knew empathizing with their real problems and that's absolutely wild his characterization is so strong it could cross that emotional barrier of empathy from reading something to more similar to empathy of being near people these things are happening to. Reading punpun was an absolutely wild and emotional experience but besides everything else that's fantastic about it the thing that stands out the most is the sense of genuine empathy I felt for the characters rather than the sort of second hand empathy I tend to feel towards emotional stories and characters even the ones I get heavily invested in.
15:54 take that back there’s 2 of em I won’t search their names cuz ptsd but it was aki’s 1st boyfriend and the other friend that’s name started with an s and had like the same thoughts as punpun for a hod jus with ufos
YO CAN ANYONE RELATE ON GOOGLE THE CHARACTERS TO MAKE SURE THEY’RE ALRIGHT (because I kinda ruined the ending for myself and it took me out of the story for a couple of months and it can’t jus be me right?…) (it’s not fair one bit the book and life) the ending hurts and is hopefully… I don’t know what to feel bout it :l
Honestly, whenever i think about punpun i just feel like throwing up. My body literally rejects that manga. I probably should have given up at it at some point but I was stubborn and read it all. I regret it. My stomach really isn't fine as I'm writing this :(
There's only 3 books I've ever read in my life that I think about at least once a week: Brave New World, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, and Oyasumi PunPun. It's an absolute masterpiece.
@@golagiswatchingyou2966 I mean hell, no story is "perfect," but Oyasumi PunPun left me feeling more hollow and lifeless than any other story has left me feeling. "Masterpiece" as in my reaction to it was profound and genuinely changed my perspective on "good" and "bad" people and actions. Especially Aiko, she's such a well-written character, holy crap.
Punpun is drawn like a bird because realistically, this makes the drawing the manga waaaaaaaay easier. Think how Toriyama was like super saiyan gives them blonde hair cause filling in all their hair is a pain in the aaa and uses A LOT of ink
Spoiler so don't read it I don't think I understand Joey's point of you can interpret the ending through the double panel. I thought it's just Aiko died, Punpun failed to kill himself and will try to live on. After all he's been through it's not really a good nor bad ending, but what's the 'bad ending' interpretation for the ending?
im ngl punpun is long, but its not good, like at all. its just depressing, thats it. nothing else, just all the terrible things happen to him and thats all there is to it. there's no substance, just pain. people say its good just cause it makes you feel like shit. might be a hot take but ya the story's not good and the whole thing is just bad. in my opinion of course you are allowed to like it
Gonna need them to read Boy's Abyss after this. Easily one of the best romance manga I have ever read because the reason why character's are struggling to get with one another is not because of some stupid "will they? Won't they?" or "I don't want to lose them as a friend" bs
Reduce the number of character make it more streamline and actually focused more on the important characters. Keep only one childhood friend, remove the teacher, remove the brother. The idol girl literally have no character arc, first chapter she relied on the writer/husband, last chapter she relied on the MC.
The double suicide schtick that they do get tiresome. Everyone wanted to do double suicide with the MC. When a person or character declares that they want to end their life, it's supposed to be a shocking event for the reader. By overdoing it and giving every character the same suicidal thoughts it lessen the impact.
Reading Punpun can be summarized by that one image of tired Spongebob leaning against a rock and exhaling heavily
You mean the one where he’s also naked?
I remember finishing this manga at new year’s eve. When the fireworks came out, I was all: 🎇🎆🗿
Neither have I read the manga nor have I ever seen fireworks but I can perfect picture what you mean😂
bruhhhhhhh 😭
Everything these guys say is hilarious knowing what comes later
The thing about Oyasumi Punpun is that the author Asano Inio is heavily nihilistic, and despises the idea of escapism. Because of this, the manga takes very real, deep looks into issues like domestic abuse, sex, depression, and suicide. The issue for me at least is that after a certain point the manga becomes an almost never-ending stream of sadness and depression. That's why I enjoy manga like Fullmetal Alchemist more, because they tackle serious issues in both positive and healthy ways. I appreciate Oyasumi Punpun as a manga and am glad it exists, but sometimes I feel like it wallows in its negativity, which is both its greatest strength and biggest weakness.
This is a great take and applies to so much more media and works of fiction.
I feel like it got hit by Murphy's law "if something can go wrong, it will go wrong"
And I'm absolutely devastated after reading it.
But I think that’s the beauty of Punpun that even after everything that happened he found joy in his life.
I thought it was too optimistic and kinda melodramatic.
Agree and even Asano agrees, he said that he felt he went too far into the pessimistic view. Still, the ending in my mind is optimistic, albeit, as optimistic as nihilism can get.
The uncle was good... At least to Punpun 🙃
That's the thing about being an adult who is taking care of a kid. You have to be a good example, no matter how bad the situation is. You need to be calm and collected, get your shit together even if your shit isn't getting together. 🙃 Also, we all have a different side that we only show to a specific group of ppl. At the end of the day, we are all broken in different ways.
These 2 are gonna be traumatized when Punpun starts tweaking......God knows I was.
I was scared w his solo thoughts cause you know that's his raw thoughts😔😔😔🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Depresso tweak
"Aiko ...It's all fine now."
@@mutedups now you made me cry 😢😢
@@rush-zk1ts Sorry, I just wanted to make your life miserable
If Grant & Connor already had this much of an emotional reaction with the beginning of Oyasumi Punpun it makes me wonder how they would feel if they decided to finish the series.
absolute dread by the end of it
Try traumatizing, with where it left me, there should be a warning, don't read if you've had PPD, if your optimistic, depressed, or your son's in middle school. This is not a cutesy slice of life. Completely nihilistic. Yeah I was left feeling empty and broken
I was 15 and I remember being broken because of how it resonated to my life growing up, a masterpiece
Joey laughing while they gas up the uncle has me crying
I feel like this Manga reminds me so much of Moral Orel. How it stared as a comedy and then revealed the darkness in the town he lived in and the truth behind his home life.
When I re-read this manga I was able pick up on certain small things that happen with young punpun that influence him as he gets older and it made me appreciate the manga even more.
Can you give an example?
I think another reason punpun is a bird is because of the halo effect. The horrible acts characters commit are often overlooked because they're good looking.
Even without that hint at the end you can tell they're normal humans. Obviously because of the way they act and live their lives but also there's another detail. Everytime you see Punpun's or any other family member's hand too close, it's always dark but it's always the shape of a human hand.
11:00 Oh. Ohhhhh they haven’t gotten to THAT part yet.
I mean... They're still kind of right, just.... you know...
THE WAY JOEY LOOKED AT HIM LMFAO
You mean cheating part?
Connor had to use those words in that order 😂
@@ageon613 bro...I literally cant make myself keep watching after he did it again, I was so mad.
I have never read Goodnight Punpun but after hearing the whole family situation i will be reading it once i finish solanin. Cause i experienced the same shit. My parents never got divorced for "my" sake and continued fighting and it has impacted me in good and bad ways i love stories that touch me or i can relate to so i will have to give it a try.
I read solanin after punpun and loved both, punpun is the better one imo but also hurts a lot more lmao
Solanin is much more "trivial" I'd say, in the sense that you watch the struggles of the FMC as an teenager reaching adulthood. Don't get me wrong, I love Solanin so much, but the depth of emotions can't be compared with Punpun, we see him grow and become just like us, sometimes making the same mistakes we did when we were younger, and sometimes sticking to memories of the past just like we did. There were moments I cried while reading just thinking "don't do it, Punpun, you will regret it later", and it happens and makes him depressed. The quality of writing from Inio Asano is out of the roof in this work, truly relatable characters and clearly describring and depicting feelings.
Well u surely will be enjoying it
That one Karen in Punpun still boils my blood whenever I'm reminded of her
The aunt right, I've never wanted to murder someone so bad
10:37 That reaction of Joey already shows what crazy situation that uncle went through..
I've read it 3 times. These guys are so not ready for what happens in his adolescence and adulthood. His life is death by 1000 cuts and dam that eventually bursts.
But it's beautiful manga and I love it so much as a survivor of an abusive/toxic family.
It's not that bad, ending is a bit sad but could be worse.
@@golagiswatchingyou2966 idk man, things were said and done that can't be taken back 💀 and at least in my interpretation, things are not okay in the end.
@Soulful_Oatmilk Well that. and honestly by the end he's not really "living"
it's depressing but i feel that it's a real lived experience of many people, whether it be biased from their perspective or not
LOL WHEN THEY SAID UNCLE WAS THEIR FAVORITE CHARACTER JOEYS FACE
The way Joey laughs when Connor says what happens in date 3 lmfao
They need to read it all
11:00 he's not.
Again, HE is not
Well, it’s debatable.
@@friendlyneighbourhooddegen4739debatable indeed, but that one character on the other hand…💀
@@ahariyo8558she was an asshole. How do you do that and not realize the effect it will have on him?
@@ahariyo8558 refresh my mind what did the uncle do bad ?
@@aligmal5031 no no, I’m not talking about the uncle. I’m referring to what uncle’s girl did to punpun
Joeys uncomfortable laugh at the "he doesn't wait till day 3" 💀
Hope you guys eventually do a discussion on the series after you finish reading it.
"Everyone is bad"
Heiroku Shishido, the real estate old man was a good guy, as well that one friend of his when he was an adult.
There is a good amount of good characters, but the story focuses on the broken characters.
Punpun is the "Requiem for a Dream" of manga
No, any satoshi kon manga is. Requim for a dream is inspired by him.
The realest thing that depresses me about punpun is that one panel in the early chapters where all the kids are holding hands & looking at the stars near the abandoned factory but later as the story progresses they slowly turn into strangers & drift away from one another
the one scene that absolutely destroyed me wasn't the ending(still did of course) but the revelation of the messages he gets from his dad
Punpun changed my brain chemistry.
I listened to a band called Thank You Scientist for the first time the other day. In the music video for FXMLDR the Drummer had a Oyasumi Pun Pun shirt on. Music aside, THAT was the best first impression I could have gotten from them.
I love Thank You Scientist!
Gotta love Thank You Scientist appreciation
THE UNCLE KILL ME HAHAHAHA
Joey face is sp faking hilarious
I'm reading the first volume and my take is that, like having 'God' as a coping mechanism, the drawing style represents PunPuns way of seeing the world to remove himself from the realism of what's happening around him.
Pun pun is like a straight up Dostoyevsky novel
while punpun is my number one favorite piece of media i ever consumed.
I would never in a million year try to read it again for the depression it once gave me.
I felt like in a black hole going deeper and deeper
Imagine of Mr. Burns smiling with his fingertips touching each other.
Goodnight Pun Pun is one of the greatest mangas written. It's the manga we didn't ask for but it's the manga the world needs to exist. As a medium of art, expression and reflection.
THE UNCLE 💀💀💀💀💀💀
Death by 1000 cuts, each cut deeper than the last
I'm about halfway into Vol. 3 just 2 days ago when I just randomly snapped and stopped reading due to how it's psychologically affecting me. Now I'm in a limbo whether I continue it or not.
I always thought punpun was a bird as he felt alien to the world and showing him as a different species sorta depicts that
There's a chapter that sorta hints on the why of it. When he meets the mangaka
If I had read the manga one year earlier than I did I would have killed myself. That is how depressing it is.
I hope they both finish it. It might be considered a slog to get through, but the complete story will likely change both of their lives. Sounds like Garnt is already primed for that experience, not sure if it would have the same effect on Connor. Then again, they aren't really very far at all, so maybe I'm totally wrong!
I,m Still traumatized by THAT panel.
What panel? 🤨
@leonardomesa5005 the one with that person hanging
I’m 4 volumes into goodnight punpun and it’s already one of the best stories I’ve read, probably not a great choice for first manga but god damn is it good
The reason he’s depicted as a bird is partly because the author wanted people to keep reading, and by having someone that looks like a human do all the messed up things he does, it can be hard to read. It’s still hard to read but it certainly helps. Also he’s not always a bird, and as he changes forms we keep more of an understanding of how he’s feeling at that point in time. It helps the author convey emotions
As someone who has yet to read punpun my favourite thing about punpun is that its so satisfying to collect the volume's since all the volume's together make punpun
damn they haven't even reached the uncle's backstory? They have quite a bit of pain to go through.
fuck, now i really need to hear their conversation after they finish it lol
A few a year ago. I kinda remember punpun. I read all of it.
I read he have a difficult time getting a girlfriend or be in a relationship with someone.
He was weird and crazy.
I felt like the characters is me. but i have a difference situation because of my intellectual disability
and speaking impediment . I never have a girlfriend or no friends help me grow up.
I want always alone nobody understand me. I never have a role model growing up.
My parents love me. I never hate my parents but i keep" blaming" them. For making me disability. They are still married after 40 years.
I was very angry with life.
Right now , i am going to therapy and joining a community.
I hope I have this happy thoughts about Punpun. I miss this feeling when I first read punpun
To be honest I want/need to see an episode when both are finished with the manga.... (currently on volume 8 and preparing for the suffering of the rest....)
I remember, that oysaumi pun pun was the first manga I ever read, I started reading manga at the age of 12...
the only time ive read this manga is because im depressed and i told myself that ill read this popular manga before i do it, then after ive finshed reading it ive realize that my life is so much fcking better than i thought
must have been hard for Joey not to spoil anything having read the last three volumes
Oh no trash taste has become an anime podcast😂😂
Man, I REALLY want to see theor reaction to Punpun's parents once they know the whole story and what happened that morning.
Also, to that scene when he's a teenager we all know.
Funnily enough I thought Goodnight Punpun had a more satisfying ending than Dead Dead Demon's Dededede Destruction
I'm yet to read his other stuff
Best manga
The author is a known and outspoken nihilist, and i think that the story starts out with that really being a narrative strength, and by the end of the story it really gets in its own way. At some point, it just becomes a hopeless soul crushing torture porn with no escape. And no matter how jaded you might feel and how miserable and truly awful life can be sometime , you really need to still show glimmers of hope.
I just can't get behind how over the head this manga bashes you with the depressing scenarios after a certain point. I know some people's lives are TRULY that miserable, but.....I don't want to see a story like that. There's nothing to be gained, or learned after a certain point.
Despite punpuns life just getting progressively worse. I think the ending to be hopeful to a certain extent. A bunch of dysfunctional deeply scared people, just trying to continue on with their lifes...
@vingvingduy1779 i guess it is somewhat. I definitely think he periodically lost the plot, especially at the last few chapters where it stopped offering anything of value. It was just an exercise in misery without focus or anything to be learned or gained from it
@@spiderdude2099 i see the whole manga as a character study. And asano inio delivered on that front imo. Every single character is multi faceted and interesting to follow (except for maybe pegasus).
@spiderdude2099 I think it's ultimately weirdly the most hopeful because this shit does exist in humanity and it goes there. the most depraved humans can be, but there is still hope even after that
"you really need to still show glimmers of hope."
Why? There's value in stories that show no hope. There is value in stories that are overly and naively hopeful. There is value in stories in between and even bitersweet. There is value in variety and people want and need different kinds of narratives at different times. It's like when someone tries to be a 'fixer' in real life. It may or not be useful but sometimes people just need to be able to feel - and sometimes that's to wallow in sadness and negativity. Of course, things have balance and people shouldn't stay there forever, but back to stories, there's nothing wrong with not having a glimmer of hope.
Wait until they meet Midori...
"it ends on a double page spread" uh does it? My final volume is just the girl in a field with clouds that may or may not look like or imply punpun as dead or the pov of the image?
It's supposed to end on the double spread of Him and everyone getting their picture taken
@@neloverg3774 I literally dont have that? volume 7 of the english edition ends with the new transfer student etc "whats normal" "did you know? humanity is done for"
genuinely no clue what photo you mean I checked online and physical volume
Dude i need to get a group of people to read pun pun
This has me wanting to write about my own life. Thanks for showing me this manga
It's pretty good but not as gut punching as I had hoped.
Punpun's life seems pretty good but feels horrible because reasons? Ending is pretty sad though.
that manga deeply disturbed me. Another one that did was boy's abyss
Yeah I get where Garnt and Connor are coming from with the idea that even if the stuff that happens in Punpun early on hasn't happened to you its characterization and presentation of it just makes you relate or at least sympathize with it. You know how punpun feels not in a surface level way but like you really feel like you feel what he is feeling and having relevant experiences or at least something that could tie you at all to any of those scenarios in even the slightest way makes it drastically uncomfortable and empathetic yet engaging and uneasy.
This was originally going to be way longer of a comment on the uncomfortable similarities between some stuff in punpun and my own experiences as a kid but decided it didn't need to be in a comment. Short version is the more you can understand where punpun's or his uncle's or any other character's in that manga's head is at as the bad and uncomfortable stuff happens the more I found it not just resonating with me more but completely taken back by just how real these characters and events feel. It's insane that rather than me thinking about how I relate to how X character feels or is acting and instead felt like I was next to people I knew empathizing with their real problems and that's absolutely wild his characterization is so strong it could cross that emotional barrier of empathy from reading something to more similar to empathy of being near people these things are happening to.
Reading punpun was an absolutely wild and emotional experience but besides everything else that's fantastic about it the thing that stands out the most is the sense of genuine empathy I felt for the characters rather than the sort of second hand empathy I tend to feel towards emotional stories and characters even the ones I get heavily invested in.
15:54 take that back there’s 2 of em I won’t search their names cuz ptsd but it was aki’s 1st boyfriend and the other friend that’s name started with an s and had like the same thoughts as punpun for a hod jus with ufos
Punpun gave me depression I'm not even joking.
YO CAN ANYONE RELATE ON GOOGLE THE CHARACTERS TO MAKE SURE THEY’RE ALRIGHT (because I kinda ruined the ending for myself and it took me out of the story for a couple of months and it can’t jus be me right?…) (it’s not fair one bit the book and life) the ending hurts and is hopefully… I don’t know what to feel bout it :l
That's like media literacy rule number one lmao why would you spoil the story for yourself
Can we just start calling Garnt Grant again. For like at least 2 videos.
I really liked punpun, but have zero desire to ever read it again. Shits sad yo
I can see sad Garnt while reading it
Blood on the Tracks when?
I’m a volume and a half in and every time I get reading I just feel impending dread. I’m just waiting for shit to hit the fan for real.
14:54 What about Punpun's landlord ?
oyasumi punpun
all that and they didn't mentioned the aunt 💀💀
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Joey at 10:27
Honestly, whenever i think about punpun i just feel like throwing up. My body literally rejects that manga. I probably should have given up at it at some point but I was stubborn and read it all. I regret it. My stomach really isn't fine as I'm writing this :(
snowflake
I was a bit disapointed, I expected worse.
@golagiswatchingyou2966 😐
It's fiction bro get a grip
Oyasumi Punpun is very relatable especially if you experienced sexual abuse, and very messed up upbringing.
I read this manga over a weekend and just felt empty once i finished.
The uncle 😢
SEKI IS THE BEST PUNPUN CHARACTER
Mimura better
The dad😢
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The pun pun 😢
All-time great manga
So it's like Odd Taxi?
I pity people who relate to it and called it a masterpiece. Hang in there guys.
There's only 3 books I've ever read in my life that I think about at least once a week: Brave New World, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, and Oyasumi PunPun.
It's an absolute masterpiece.
It's a bit overrated, it's good but masterpiece?
@@golagiswatchingyou2966 I mean hell, no story is "perfect," but Oyasumi PunPun left me feeling more hollow and lifeless than any other story has left me feeling. "Masterpiece" as in my reaction to it was profound and genuinely changed my perspective on "good" and "bad" people and actions. Especially Aiko, she's such a well-written character, holy crap.
I like the series (obviously) but it does whiff of trauma porn, Asano writes Punpun like he has a personal grudge against the character at times.
they’re cooked
I stopped reading somewhere in the 50s. This series is profoundly sad
Punpun is drawn like a bird because realistically, this makes the drawing the manga waaaaaaaay easier.
Think how Toriyama was like super saiyan gives them blonde hair cause filling in all their hair is a pain in the aaa and uses A LOT of ink
Spoiler so don't read it
I don't think I understand Joey's point of you can interpret the ending through the double panel. I thought it's just Aiko died, Punpun failed to kill himself and will try to live on. After all he's been through it's not really a good nor bad ending, but what's the 'bad ending' interpretation for the ending?
some situations of the ending feels unnecessary going downhill for the characters.
Oh no .. forced to read the Best Most Realistic manga in history. How sad
im ngl punpun is long, but its not good, like at all. its just depressing, thats it. nothing else, just all the terrible things happen to him and thats all there is to it. there's no substance, just pain. people say its good just cause it makes you feel like shit. might be a hot take but ya the story's not good and the whole thing is just bad. in my opinion of course you are allowed to like it
Bonne nuit
Gonna need them to read Boy's Abyss after this. Easily one of the best romance manga I have ever read because the reason why character's are struggling to get with one another is not because of some stupid "will they? Won't they?" or "I don't want to lose them as a friend" bs
Boy's Abyss tried to be dark and depressing but they have too many diverging story line making it unnecessarily convoluted.
Reduce the number of character make it more streamline and actually focused more on the important characters. Keep only one childhood friend, remove the teacher, remove the brother. The idol girl literally have no character arc, first chapter she relied on the writer/husband, last chapter she relied on the MC.
The double suicide schtick that they do get tiresome. Everyone wanted to do double suicide with the MC. When a person or character declares that they want to end their life, it's supposed to be a shocking event for the reader. By overdoing it and giving every character the same suicidal thoughts it lessen the impact.