YOU DON'T OWN YOUR PS5!! PSN Hardware Ban
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- In this video, I talk about how Sony will hardware ban PS5's for breaking the code of conduct, and why this could be a very bad thing. Even though it's hard to get your console banned it proves that you don't really own the thing you purchased. I talk about that and some of my opinions on it, but I'm curious to hear your opinion...
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You can't hate Sony enough
Why? It is the same for PC. If you get hardware banned, the parts you sell are blocked. Activision Blizzard does this all the time.
its been a thing since ps3
@@4400seriesFAN You can at least play other games (or pirate the ones you can't).
@@4400seriesFAN You can run a HWID spoofer and reset your HWID and you won't be banned anymore, lol at a console guy trying to talk on stuff he doesn't know about.
@threefiveseven
You can also become an astronaut.
I know that you also have to rely on other users to make tour games playable, too! Funny...
In today’s news. UA-camr learns what hardware banning is after it’s been happening since 2001 on every platform
Lol I didn't watch the video, was just looking for this comment
still doesn't make it okay.
What platform in 2001 was doing hardware bans?
Some of the PS5's that get banned are stolen, I remember when the console first came out my buddy was able to get one from PlayStation direct, and his console got stolen while in transit in a FedEx warehouse/sorting faciality, so the console was pretty much bricked before it was even opened. On a side note, Sony did replace his console for free.
A large amount of hardware bans are stolen PS5's. It should be noted that hardware bans are only reserved for people who do some VERY extreme things. A full on console ban is reserved for 1) People who are trying to commit fraud like trying to take over other people's accounts for the purpose of trying to get their credit card info. 2) Console tampering for the purpose of modding the PS5 to play downloaded pirated PS5 games. 3) Stolen PS5's 4) Committing some type of other criminal act, such as someone using PSN for trading illegal images, drug related trade (a lot of it is done through messaging on PSN and then mailing things out to a physical address), some type of other trade involving serious criminal activity, etc. In other words, something very illegal of some sort has to be committed in order for a hardware ban to happen (for normal cases, like someone being a bully in an online game, the worst that will happen is that they might receive an account ban after several violations, but their console will NOT be banned. But for people committing criminal activity, it's going to be a console ban. Which leads to me also saying this: it is a HORRIBLE idea to buy a banned console from someone because it is unknown what type of illegal activity they were doing on that PS5 and they might be selling off that PS5 to remove all physical evidence from themselves onto someone else. Never a good idea to buy a banned console, no matter how cheap it is.
@johnpenguinthe3rd13 that's what I was thinking too
hardware bans have been a thing on basically all platforms since the PS3 era, even when I first heard about it as a kid I wondered why that should even happen when it's wasteful to buy another console just to avoid a ban
I don't think hardware modding related bricking counts.
@@jakehildebrand1824 why would I count that...?
@@Zippy_Zolton because thats what most people are talking about when they say PS3 had hardware bans
@@jakehildebrand1824 I know for sure Xbox 360s could get console banned, but I remember that being a thing for the PS3 too which is why I never wanted to mod it until around 2022
8 days ago, there was no PS5 at my local pawn shop, there were three of them 2 days ago, suspicious
Why?
What's so suspicious about it?
@@GameslordXY If you bothered watching the video, you'd realise that the reason why that's suspicious is because suddently people are selling PS5s at pawn shops because they're hardware banned.
@@GameslordXY no one buys them too
of course it's part of planned obsolescence, they want you to buy the ps5 pro, they can ban them for a plethora of very mundane , petty or very insignificant reasons, that is why their tos is very vague and large about what can ban your hardware. it's corpo shlt tactics
I feel like Xbox may do this eventually. On a side note, it makes no sense that they can't get rid of the ban in the sense of just buying another console. I think this is pure greed.
Console bans have been a thing since the 360 and PS3
Xbox been doing it for 20 years
If they unban a console, they effectively provide a licence to abusers to continue abusing other people.
It would also mean that they are in the abuse bussiness , profiting out of it.
I fully support console banning.
@@GameslordXY it also doubles as an anti-theft measure if consoles are stolen from retail.
It can be unbanned with a phone call if you have the receipt for the used console. They did for my Xbox One Laserdisc model
There are steps you can take to correct a banned PS5. It requires an experienced computer nerd.
Personally, I like the idea of a banned PS5. Only if I can play any disked game I want offline. If the game requires a internet connection, that sucks. However there are a bunch of great games that can be played without it.
That is how the Original console and computer games worked.
cant you use a friends ps5 with the disc you have, get the update then transfer via usb then transfer usb to your ps5?
or jb a ps5 esp if banned anyways
Sounds like jailbreaking will be the only thing to revive the consoles. If you can jailbreak a banned console, then you can find the game ISOs + update patches and run them I think.
Thats why I only use the PC. Technically you can change every part of it, even though its mlre expansive. I just realised at the end of the Video that you "only" have 38 subscribers. Thats a surprisingly good quality for such a small creator. Really earned my subscribtion ❤
i love PC gaming, especially the higher refresh rate and the freedom to do anything you want with it. i really appreciate it!! thank you!!
It's not always more expensive
You this is good news, I never new that just just saved someone $299. Keep up the good work but only play with the people you know you well. So you want get BANNED
@@ruvanefriebus-cv6td If you buy used then it's about the same as ps5 or even less expensive if have get free online and ofc piracy. My RX 5700 xt did cost me just $120 last year and it has same perf as PS5 my cpu is from 2017 and still does fine except a few unoptimized titles like Helldivers 2. Launched Ghost of Tsushima yesterday and can play at over 60fps at high no problem and it looks beautiful can play even higher than that thanks to the frame gen i will be testing it next.
Only sad thing is windows problems and tragedy of not optimized games especially on lower budget PCs@@Snowy3011
They have been doing this since the ps3 back then we called it being bricked usually it was banned due to hacking
Hey, if you hit your PS5 with a sledgehammer you should probably not expect to be able to sell it either. This is just a virtual sledgehammer. Stop breaking your PS5's.
I got suspended for streaming Yakuza Ishin and there was a scene involving a geisha and It got reported as “bullying” yeah I’m not even joking.
Yeah, I bought a ps5 off a guy on facebook. A year later hardware banned, just completely bricked. My guess he found out he can report it stolen and get a replacement leaving me stuck with a bricked ps5 I paid msrp for (during the launch shortage).
The good old Xbox 360 approach
Gotta love how they always have copied the worst parts of Microsoft
Would buying digital games mean that when psp 2 or a playstation handheld comes out, unlike disc games, I can play them games on my handheld without having to purchase it again?
i haven’t heard of sony working on psp 2 unfortunately. i hope they do some day… ik you can do that with steam on your pc and steam deck
I know some games on PS3, PS4, and PS Vita have cross purchase so if you buy it on PS3 or PS4 if there is also a PS Vita version you can play it on your PS Vita as well
And this is one more reason not to buy consoles. Being locked down to one store means that's all you have. Meanwhile, if one were to get banned from Steam, other options such as GOG, Origin, EGS, and others exist.
Steam has never banned someone from their purchases. Only from forums, so essentially a mute.
Just don't do things that would ban you.
Now hard is that?
@@GameslordXY It might sound easy at first, but false accusations are a thing.
@@Rspsand07 I probably should have used the Epic Game Store as they banned someone for shopping during a sale. Not sure if they implemented a shopping cart yet or not. However, the reason I didn't was because I'm not a fan of Epic and their spoiled brat approach to gaming of paying for exclusivity deals.
If you have a console and only buy digital then you are simply put, an idiot. Buy console games phydically, then you will have the choice where you want to buy your games. Not to mention the many advantages of physical media.
people gave up on ps5 and returned to ps4. ps5 remove their web browsering feature, because people were jailbreaking the consels
I love my old jet engine of a PS4
Ohhh my God...........Klaus Schwab is seething with glee gaming is literally dying
You buy the hardware, you do NOT buy access to the network, you rent time on it. Sony will not come in and take your physical device. The device may not be welcome on the network, but you still physically own it. Unbanning it is NOT an option, someone could get someone else to pay the (fine) and then carry on with the poor behaviour. Hardware bans are a thing for a reason, for very problematic people. If you cheap out and get a 2nd hand item...that is a risk you take. Buy first hand, don't cheap out, ez fix.
Sure just let me get the games from any other source other than Sony on my digital PS5. Oh wait...
@@leonardoruse9256 There are many thousands of games, on many a platform. If you want to use Sony Hardware, you must behave on their network. If you buy 2nd hand, as I said before, that is a risk you take, and Sony owes you nothing in that case.
This guys not mistaking, we're pushed to buy systems and they can lock u out of it. You cNt say it dont happen to innocent ppl because I've had notifications complaints were made against me and my online name when there's not been any issue. Further they should not ban systems when they can block party chats. They shouldn't charge u for the system if they are gonna control your system overall.
I am keeping my PS5 (for like GTA 6 when that comes out) But I'm so glad I'm doing more PC gaming now
this has always been a thing since ps3 but the difference is you can spoof the console id on ps4 and ps3 but cant on the ps5 untill theres a way past the hypervisor btw you can put steam on a ps5 if you put linux on it
@AndrewUder ?
Not having a appeals process or service fee to remove bans is just a bad business practice. Why I stick to PC whenever possible.
I'm worried that Sony might try to ban you for talking about this topic.
Banned PS5 receives updates to games.. Dashboard receives updates... You can play all games you purchase on disk story mode and offline only.. Perfect for an Xbox gamer who is only wants to play Sony exclusive titles.. I have one..
This is just the way it is. You abide by the rules or get banned. I would never buy a used console until its 2 generations old or older consoles that do not require online.
After getting into PS3 and PS4(mates bought me them), soooo glad I never got into PS5.
Thanks for raising this issue I was not aware of and have another reason why I should not buy PS5.
(other reason being the ridiculous increase on PS+ membership fee just to be able to play online bare minimum.)
Even more so to avoid PS5, since PlayStation is releasing games on PC more often now than before, which I preferred playing on PC originally, before I got into PS3 and PS4.
I got an RTX3089ti laptop currently and back on "PC-Land" discovering what I missed during my time with PS3 and PS4 and rediscovering the favourite PC games I just enjoyed.
It came full circle for me these past 14 years on "video" games.
I'm in my early 40s, have a mortgage and small family of my own now!
Which PS3? All Fats and Slims can be easily CFW, overclocked (my Slim has a 50% GPU overclock) and play any PS2 games, even non-BC models
Just played Shaolin Monks and 007 Everything or Nothing an hour ago on my 2501A
Can you still play single player games???
Considering its a hardware ban, Im guessing the console gets completely bricked.
Someone send this to Louis Rossman.
But really that has existed since the Xbox 360.
Ebay should have these delisted.
The thing that's kinda weird is it has to be something serious even if let's say You were doing glitches talking trash or spamming people they could just throw a acc ban since you can't mod online on ps5 I would assume it's because they are stolen or something very serious
Yes this is a very bad system that goes way too far. But just like games on disk ,the entire gaming industry is a money grabbing illusion that is acting like they are doing you a favor for not giving you anything for a 500 dollar piece of hardware that lasts a maximum of 6 years but ofcourse they bring an other 5-600 dollar upgraded pro version halfway so you still can not achieve what they promised your first machine could, and 70+ dollar games with cut content for dlc. You do not own a thing and can't do sh## when they decide it has been enough time to pull the plug. This should be illegal and put in proper rules. I own a roofing company. I don't think my costumers would be very happy if I come over after 3 years after I did their roofs, to pull it all off when it rains. Bc I think it been there long enough. They will murder me for sure. Digital games, services, it all was invented to get rid of that second hand market and get rid off the retailer so money for distribution can be put into pure profit. These people have never enough. They learn when their empire comes crashing down like it did in the 80's
There wont be a crash like in the 80s
Modern gamers dont have the mental capacity depth and intelligence to do that
with this mindset of buying used games and then selling it will result in the developers not making any money so you shouldn't be surprised that the game you liked won't get a sequel. I like to keep my games as a collectible and I do like to jump back to a lot of games.
This is false, there was never more people online and a dramatic increase in game sales, especially indies, people don't care as much about triple a games or even exclusives, but the overall pool of customers on pc has grow very large since covid, double or triple , so this theory about not making money for devs is cute but it's not true in the globality.
This lady at Target stole 15 PS5 brand new sold them and Target reported to Sony the PS5s were stolen and Sony hardware locked the PS5s so even new Sony can get you.
this has been happening for a longtime. the only option i see for sony take action is for people to make law suit or something of significant magnitude. that will force sony to answer.
otherwise these ps5 will be only be useful as PARTS DONOR for repairshops.
Why ubann something if you can drive up console sales
This isn't a new thing. They've been hardware banning since ps3.
A scary video with a wonderful soundtrack: Starhawk
that game deserves a remaster or a sequel
@@Snowy3011 It won't happen, that game wasn't appreciated enough. Warhawk came out 5 years earlier and its servers lasted longer than Starhawk's.
I think Sony is fair. Most people that are very unintelligent will most likely break there system way before they get banned.
Sure you could say it's a waste. But if people were able to get away with there crimes then they will just make or use another account.
Most people will use the accounts as intended. Most people are aware that they will most likely get banned if they are doing something they arnt suposed to with the system.
If people could get them unmbanned. Then they just would either keep using, or sell them for more.
Although I see what your saying, I feel like your view is rather shortsighted.
For example, theres nothing stopping people from selling the banned systems at full price without telling you that its hardware banned.
So what happens, when someone gets scammed into buying an unusable console at full price without any chance of a refund, or any way to make the console usable?
Or what happens if they start handing out hardware bans for things like offensive or vulgar language, even when in private party voice chat, which they have admitted to monitoring?(The majority of CoD players, GTA players, Rainbow 6 Siege players, and Fortnite kids consoles would be wiped out overnight).
Or what happens when Playstation inevitably accidentally bans someone who hasn't done anything wrong, costing them hundreds of dollars.
What about when the consoles start getting older and people's consoles get banned because a replacement part or parts unknowingly came from a console that was banned?
Or what about people whos consoles get banned because the person who repaired the console wasn't an "approved" technician? Not everyone lives a block away from a Playstation technical support center.
Sonys actions won't just punish rule breakers, it will also wreak havoc on second hand buyers, repair shops, and in the future the Playstation community as a whole.
Also, its not the same thing as when some wannabe hacker bricks their console trying to hack it because they don't know what they're doing, thats on them.
@jakehildebrand1824 most people will buy a new console. Those who buy things second hand really have to use there own sense.
Someone could buy a broken ps5 at full price and deal with the same consequences. You wouldn't blame Sony for them not making it aware to a second hand buyer.
You see at some point, there has to be an extreme punishment to violators. Or they will never be punished. Sure, there could be accidents. But how small the pool of consoles are being permabanned and how many of those would be accidents.
Sure Sony could abuse there power. But if they did. People would find out and stop buying there product.
I have an xbox. I don't really go in thinking I'm going to have the console repaired a bunch of times. I buy a product and then I'm going to use it until it breaks or it can't play current games.
By the time my console malfunctions I'm going to either wait for a next gen console or buy the new one.
Alot of your reply was basic on "what if Sony is a horrible company that abuses there power". If people actually thought that they wouldn't buy there product.
Sony loses money every time they would permiban an account or console If it wasn't hacked. Because people are buying there games, controllers, buying subscriptions and they are profiting. That is a company's main goal is profit. At some point when a company becomes really big they have to plan for every senerio. A permaban being probably the most extreme.
Also second hand consoles are just a gamble anyway. They could go any time. Even if they are repaired. Other parts can die and Sony can't garentee it will last.
Sony actually says that there consoles only last a few years even tho there products are known for lasting a very long time. My ps4 is 10 years old and I think it was said that they should only last like 3.
Probably most kids end up breaking them by bumping into them or mistreating them. (Spilling liquid on them). But they treat like they were malfunctions because they dont have any other data.
Like tictoc you don't need games to survive either. Games are just entertainment 💗 however i agree hardware bans seem excessive
They are not excessive.
If someone is abuser,all it would need to do is open another account and continue doing it.
How many accounts can you open on one PS5?
And how much do you think unbanning licence should cost?
Sony could earn huge money in banning and unbanning people.
Imagine the backlash after people realizing it.
No, banning consoles is the right thing to do👍
@@GameslordXY @GameslordXY sure ban the persons console but when a new person buys it thinking its all good and it turns out to be useless then we have an issue. You say its neccesary but what about the people getting scammed into buying a banned console? Something has to be done about that.
@@GameslordXY tell that to all the people who got scammed into buying a banned console
Same thing with blu-rays, ebay is awesome
You can unban a console I've seen people do it before but you have to have some serious technical repair know-how to be able to do it
Do you mean emulating another PSID or actually unban?
Thats a software ban, not a hardware ban.
@@jakehildebrand1824 No I'm talking about a hardware ban they basically fry certain parts of the system to make sure you can't connect the system to their network anymore so those parts need replacing and once you do you are free to connect again as if nothing happened it's an extremely difficult repair but it can be done
@@AzaiaMonota2 thats assuming the parts aren't paired to the console like the parts of an apple phone are.
yeah...what's even worse is if you have an xbox series S. the console is legit bricked if you get a hardware ban.
I thought there’s something new. But that’s just the same online services policy since Xbox 360 age.
Online service policies only lock you out of online services, a hardware ban would essentially be making the console completely inoperable.
consoles are extreme E waste for that
This would not be an issue if you could install Linux and run steam
the good old ps3 days
this has been a thing since ps3 and xbox 360. This video isn't tackling much.
Stop cheating and u dont have to worry about a hardware ban. Anyone can make a account again and no there shouldnt be a fee to get it hardware unbanned because people are will to pay thousands just to feel validated by cheating in a game
Except, after you get banned on enough accounts, they IP ban you, and ban your Email address, preventing you from making new accounts.
Also, there absolutely SHOULD be a way to get the hardware unbanned having no way to do so opens up tons of immediate and future problems.
Furthermore like you said, people are willing to spend thousands of dollars to cheat, so what makes you think they wont just buy a new console when the one they have gets banned?
It was never ur hardware it was bannable from PS3 to PS5 Gen…
If ue cheating or ur an ******* its good u have been banned☺️
If theres an failure in the system its awful but the fact that cheaters and ******* are banned is a hugh + for the community!
Incredibly stupid practice. And a problem with cloud computing in general. Some people have their everything on their google/microsoft/apple accounts and when they get banned from those they're effectively locked out of their entire life. I don't really use cloud services but the whole thing where Android wants a Google account and Windows wants a Microsoft Account (if you don't know how to bypass it) rubs me the wrong way already. So it can even be a problem with things that have alternatives but having a expensive piece of hardware directly tied to it like in Sony's case makes it even more stupid.
Hardware and Console bans always been there. You just learn it new. To that I say, do not do something that'll get your Ps banned lul
So many bootlickers here. Console gamers will defend any asinine practice. That goes for all consoles, not just for Playstation.
big faxs
Ever had all ya gear stolen?
why would you buy a game if you plan to sell it? mine as well rent it.
it’s cheaper/you can make money, if you do it the right way
me when my ps3 is still IDS banned *you foools*
yay
This is why i dont fuck with the tos. But still this is wack indeed
you dont own any modern console regardless plus people who dont read tos or coc cant really say anything and then sell off after they break it for quick cash. 360 consoles are still banned from mw2 mw3 era forever. it is sad people con others after breaking tos or coc making the user market more scary overall
Neat meanwhile PC users don't have to pay a yearly fee per machine to just go online for a basic match making service that can ban you and your entire game library you purchased from going online in P2P games that sony has no right to even be interacting with, and we also get are games considerably cheaper to the point we don't need to resell them just by waiting for a steam sale to buy them and steam sales occur often.
PC's that can equal PS5 in performance can be made for cheaper then a new PS5 now out of OLD DELL or HP workstations + a 5700 XT or 2070 gpu shoved into one,. So why are you subjecting yourself to using a console and putting up with being treated like dirt?
They don't ban you for fun.
Is it so hard to avoid following the rules of conduct?
It's their service,their rules.
When they ban people,they knowingly give up on potential money those users might spend on their service, so I wouldn't call it greed,but quite the contrary.
And there are Free To Play games on PlayStation that you do not need PlayStation plus for.
Well many people are not aware of those old HP workstations + the ability to throw in new GPU.
GPUs you mentioned would likely need to be used , just like those workstations.
Depending on how old they are , that can mean no warranty.
You also give up on simplicity of a console.
Now that may not be a big deal for you , but it is to many,many people.
And vast majority of people can follow rules of conduct just fine.
@@GameslordXY - I hope you get paid by Sony and not sucking them off voluntarily.
Meanwhile PC users pay hundreds of dollars every year to get the latest Intel or RTX, while also dealing with worse DRM measures and a more clunky experience.
Just don't break the rules.
No 1 rule " Be inclusive "
Enough said!
This is why gaming is Dieing
this is a dumb conversation you have no valid points
It's about making an example.
Sending a message.
If you for example abused other people, having the option to pay for unbanning would mean having the option to get a licence to abuse them again effectively making banning pointless.
Banning just account would mean that you can just create another account on same console and continue abusing others almost without restrictions.
How much accounts can you have per console?
4?
400?
Infinite?
IF they ban your console,chances are you will learn a lesson if you are one of quite a few people that need many months or even years to afford one .
As for Playstation 5 Digital becoming completely useless,well games with an offline component ,you can continue playing just fine.
Without any updates I guess,but banned player should have thought about it when it decided to become the abuser.
Unless something changed on the so-called PS5 Slim.
So yes,I ABSOLUTELY support console banning practices.
The only 'lesson' anyone who's had their console banned will learn is to avoid Sony products like a plague.
There's so much wrong with the concept of bricking consoles for the sake of punishment, it's difficult to know where to begin. Firstly the terms of service (& online 'offenses' in chat etc.) are highly subjective. We all know how it works. People can get accused of everything.
Secondly the legality of all seems like absolute bullsh*t. It's straight up tyranny by a woke corporation.
@@cartermoth6447 - I've never even been banned but I refuse to buy a PS5 for this very reason. I had every previous console of theirs including PSP and Vita while also spending thousands on digital purchases during the PS3 and PS4 generations. Once they moved their HQ from Japan to California I started seeing a lot of changes I didn't like and Sony getting increasingly woke. I bit the bullet and built me a PC and i'm never going back.
They don't learn a lesson, they pay a fine by buying another PS5 and go right back to cheating while Soyny pretends they made another PS5 sale instead of actually ridding gaming of the cheater forever.
@@autobotstarscream765
Sure some will.
But not as many as if they could just pay up some tiny amount to have account unlocked or opening new account on same console.
@@cartermoth6447
Their house,their rules.
What's so difficult to understand.
Common decency is enough to not get you banned.
Is that too much to ask for?
Woke-ism has nothing to do about it.
It was like that long before woke&anti woke movements started to destroy societies turning everyone against everyone.
Finding simple commentaries like this that aren't seriously over edited are impossible to find nowadays. Loved the video, thank you for keeping it simple!
I've gotten into game collecting recently and I do research on what games/consoles will work offline, and I honestly wouldn't mind having one of these PS5's if I didn't already have a PS5. I don't think banning the console from PSN is quite as bad as straight up banning you from using the console, but I do think it's stupid there's no way at all to unban the console if someone had bought it second hand
I disagree here. You do own it. For the arguement you are making it would have to mean that when they banned you they would send someone round to take away the console. As you said they don't ban people for nothing. I do think there should be a way to get a console unbanned though. To completely block the hardware from ever being able to be used again is wasteful. They probably see it as an opportunity to sell more consoles though.
please, use the footage from less clown-ish game, perfectly not a shooter, because videos like this can be perfectly consumed in audio-only form
UNLESS VIEWER HEARS DISTRACTING SHOOTING SOUNDS
P.S. the video by itself raises quite important themes
i didn’t even think about that, i’ll fix it in the future
Sony reserves the right to Thanos snap everyone who plays their play the wrong way😂
You will own nothing and you’ll like it - world economic forum
I don't think I will ever Buy A Console Again hopefully Right now i only own 1 Xbox that's it because too much Monopoly and They control you way too much.
Get a PS3 Fat or Slim and hack it. My slim plays any PS2 games I triedso far, PSP as well, Retroarch, cheap bluray player, mine has a 50% GPU overclock as well. Best $50 bucks you will spend
There's also a 60FPS build of Mario 64
Bought my Slim last Sunday for $20 only
Remember:
If you didn't own the game after buying it.
Then you didn't steal the game after pirating.
How have you never heard of a hardware ban? You live under a rock?.... Lol.
Sony play, is ppl buy new console.
cool ghost recon music
i miss those games
Get a clue psn is trash