THIS is the future of those cliche TV Show scenes where everyone just "flicks" whatever they're doing to any display in the room they're in. This is very exciting.
The missing feature that would actually make this setup competing to use for me is multiple device audio streams through AirPods (AirPods connected to more than one device at a time). This would allow me to play a stream on the iPad, while continuing to work on the mac, without having to think about manual audio device switching, or hoping that the auto switch feature behaves (it simply does not during zoom meetings). Other than that, this is really fun.
I think it’s a bandwidth issue with current AirPods, if the rumours are true for 2nd gen AirPod Pro’s later this year with Airplay instead of Bluetooth I think they’ll definitely bring this feature
I agree. MacOS in particular is not nearly as good as iOS and iPadOS at switching audio sources. If they made the iPad-to-Mac switch seamless, that might be okay, but your suggestion would be a more comprehensive, fool-proof solution
Surprised they didn't add Ultra Wideband to the Mac and iPad and use that as a means of figuring out where devices are for Universal Control. Seems like a great use case for it
Yea but that makes universal control available only for newer Macs and ipads don't have UWB yet. Not to mention it doesn't really need the UWB, it can intuitively recognize where the second device is since users would only go to the extreme edge of a screen if there was another screen beyond that edge.
@@marvinjohn As mentioned it doesn't always work and you can manually override the order of devices in settings. UWB would help mitigate that and improve the accuracy. Apple loves being the "it just works" company
Yeah, that's the first thing I thought of too, UWB would be good for that. Could be an optional thing too and not require UWB devices. Not that I can use it, I'm an Android person... But I don't need it anyway, I'm already doing the same thing and have been for like 2 years with Link-to-Windows which already has EVERY SINGLE FEATURE discussed in the video, even drag & drop file transfer and seamless clipboard sync. Granted there were a LOT of bugs at first (cause Microsoft) but they've been ironed out. I'm typing with my PC keyboard on my Galaxy S21 right now. And yes you heard right, on my Galaxy PHONE not TABLET. The fact that Apple made this iPad only is such a tpyical bullshit Apple move and exactly why I stopped buying all their crap as soon as Steve left.
14:09 While being able to drag an open document from macOS to iPadOS and have it just work instantly with an iPad version of an app (such as Photoshop) is rife with technical hurdles and would require a lot of adoption by developers, there is a slightly different way Apple could make this all work with the tech they have right now. Basically, have Universal Control let you drag a window to an iPad screen, and when you do the iPad switches into Sidecar (so it switches from KVM mode to screen-over-wifi mode). When you drag the Photoshop window back to the Mac, the iPad goes back to whatever app it was in before. There’s still some design considerations to solve here & there, but it’s all completely technologically plausible right now. My prediction: Apple announces exactly that this June at WWDC 2022.
I often wish, that the iPad's OS feels more like a lighter weight macos than a more powerfull ios. I'd love things like sideloading apps or just having a "Desktop" in general. Also, multi monitor support and windowed apps would be awesome
@@goodvibesbeats2221 in my opinion (and i'm writing this on my m1 ipad pro) iPadOS is a worse iOS or at least was a worse iOS the fact the you couldnt place widgets on your home screen in iPadOS 14 but you could in iOS 14 clearly shows that iPadOS is inferior to wait another year for iPadOS 15 to get a feature from iOS 14 just feels strange same goes for the weather and calculator apps why cant they just run on iPadOS? just give me a small picture in picture version of the iOS App... like on the 12.9" iPad Pro they could easily just give me a layover window in the size of my iPhone13ProMax in which the calc or weather is running but no, i have to switch to my phone or get a third party app to do those simple things and as he said i still hate the fact that on my 12.9" M1 iPad Pro (1TB --> 16GB RAM) i cant run FinalCut but my mums base model M1 Macbook Air with half the RAM and one GPU Core less can run it i paid 1010€ more than her for a device with the "same" chip, have a better display, more RAM, more GPU cores and i cant run the same software? make it make sense dont get me wrong, i love my iPad but it feels kinda wrong or like it doesnt get the love from apple that it deserves its basically a big iPhone with a slightly worse OS but Mac hardware
@@goodvibesbeats2221 damn, that comment got long :D sorry :D
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Use case: I actually stopped using sidecar because it was a huge tax on my Mac keeping that display on. With this, I could just use the native apps on my iPad, without reaching around to touch, just using my regular mouse and keyboard.
Is it really taxing? I’ve used it, but I didn’t see any resource getting hogged by using Sidecar. I’ll have to give it a look. I use a 43” Samsung TV as my main monitor, the MacBook as secondary, and the sidecar screen to function like a graphics tablet. It makes the fan spin up hard, but I don’t get lagging.
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@@mikabreto It was for me, but maybe because I have an older MacBook? I'm running a 2017 MBP
“A promise that you probably forgot about” …. I have been waiting SO LONG for this. Every release I wait with baited breath for the moment I can use one BT mouse and keyboard for macs & my iPad. Maybe it’s just me but DANG has this been a feature for which I have longed deeply!
Logitech is probably not going to like this making some of the biggest features of the master line obsolete - at least if you are using only Apple devices
The Mac market share is pretty low. They probably don’t care. And nothing is stopping people from using a Logitech mouse anyways since it isn’t limited to Apple keyboard/mouse/trackpad.
I suspect that enough people aren’t Apple-only users that Logitech is likely in the clear. They seem a little more focused on consumers who are less into Apple in the first place, who like at least some of the products but aren’t all in on the ecosystem and/or don’t fully get into the Apple vibe
Thank you for showing us the already amazing features of universal control running in its beta version. I am seeing myself using this on the daily basis. Keep up with the good work on this kind of demos. 👌🏻
just use icloud. why bother with universal control? you can even access your ipad files on windows PC via icloud drive dont tell me you dont hv good wifi safari links?? duh, sync ur safari across devices.. 🤷🏽♂️
@@SoundbeatsFree what major apps on ipad tht you severely want to control via mac tht the data/files not readily available using icloud/icloud drive? notes? garageband? photos? music? excel? word? safari?
Great one! Thanks guys. 💜 I can tell you’re making improvements to the creation process, the flow in the latest videos is incredible, and the shots are more atmospheric and diverse. Nice!
This is my first video I’ve ever seen from you, definitely will not be my last I love the BMW M shirt, and most importantly I love that you major video long enough to cover a ton of points, but I never felt like you blabbed or went on too long about a subject. It seemed like you had to speak fast but you also spoke super concise, which shows that you really know what you’re talking about and have a passion about these things! 200% subscribed
The only thing I actually feel I need from Apple: let us use the Apple Pencil on MacBooks' trackpad. I hate having to bring my Wacom around if I plan to work on the go and I feel like it could be easily implemented with state of the art technology
Amazing video Quinn! Your videos are way ahead of the others regarding the quality of the content and explaining things in an understandable way for everyone
I think it'd be cool to be able to drag windows and apps between devices. Apps that are available on both can support it, and for those that don't, Apple already has ad hoc airplay support. Just create an airplay session for that window.
I still have some hope that Apple will make a touch/Pencil-compatible iMac like the Surface Studio, basically a giant iPad Pro for artists. I doubt it’ll actually happen but I would buy one immediately if it ever happened.
It's going to sound stupid but they're just going to tell you to get a Wacom with touch support. I agree it would be excellent, but like you said it's doubtful it'll happen.
I have to agree with Apple's logic that touching and writing on a vertical surface is an absolutely awful experience though. A bigger iPad pro would be my preference.
While it's true that iPads sold way better, it should be noted that they were cheaper and could be used by a wider array of people more easily. Plus, it was the only REAL tablet option people had... so while people could buy Androids or Windows computers, iPad was in it's own bracket...
Geeze while I'm a Windows and Android user, the Apple ecosystem is so temping at times. If iPhone goes USB-C and this feature becomes iPhone compatible, that would make me switch over and keep the PC for my gaming stuff.
I would love to see them implement a shared version of this, so that you could for example help your friend that sits next to you with something, without getting up. Just like it's with AirDrop, you could turn this on only for contacts. They could also add audio pass-through feature into universal control, so that you could use literally any headphones or speakers on a Mac to hear sound from iPad, or even iPhone, while working simultaneously on a few devices. I could see a few use cases for that, like scrolling through instagram or watching a live stream while working. I hate it when I'm on a Discord call on a Mac, and I want to do something on my iPhone, but some video starts playing and my AirPods switch to my iPhone, leaving the call on speaker.
I am an English teacher. I use 2 macs, a MacBook Pro an ipad and a projector for my lessons and lesson planning. The fact I can create lessons on my Big Mac and control all of them with just 1 mouse and keyboard and also the drag and drop feature is saving me so much time with uploads downloads and using drive and iCloud. It’s amazing.
What I would to see is combining universal control and side car. I want the features of universal control, but when needed, be able to drag a window from the Mac onto the ipad for display.
Imagine plugging an external display to iPad and it will show MacOS on screen when plugged in. (Similar to Samsung Dex). Where Dex is android based, MacOS on External Display can be same as actual MacOS because the processor is the same(M1!) and the binary works on both iPad and Mac. I don't see any technological barrier to show MacOS on External Display other than Apple not willing to. Paring this scenario with Universal Control could be mind blowing! (BOOM!)
Yes! I would kill for this feature. All I need is my iPad and my Logitech keyboard/mouse. Even better when the iPhone becomes powerful enough to handle all this.
A little tip for older devices, you can copy and paste between ios/ipados/macos - so 50% you can do with older stuff. Need some temp code from some email that only your business ipad has? copy it to clipboard, go to the other device and paste, it will be there. Very nifty stuff. This newer stuff is almost 'super fancy smart clipboard' with a security token attached or whatever.
Yes. But still the iPad (Pro) is way too overpowered for most users. I hope that one day I will be able to run a solid Linux VM on my iPad without the need of a developer workarounds. I imagine docking the iPad to a dock, which then delivers video output to external monitors to run real desktop programs. imo the isolation of Apple hardware is too big and other than financial profit, there are no real advantages. The Microsoft surface devices took another direction. And while we can argue about the quality of the operating system and the devices itself, its still more portable to have a tablet for handwriting and a laptop in one device, which also supports full desktop apps. Maybe its just my personal preference, but I‘d rather have less devices which are powerful in many tasks, than having multiple devices which can do only certain tasks good. This must be all because of profit and I think its a shame :(
Instead of dragging with mouse between screens, just right click (or better keyboard shortcut), move, move to device. I hate dragging windows around with a mouse.
My, my, Mr. Snazzy, for all the times that I’ve popped in on your channel, today you produced one the most useful and well edited (did my rap on you regarding the old wall of iPhone boxes help push you to your current set ups?). Regardless, I hope this is the future of Snazzy Labs. Your less over-the-top presentation, (which is rampant on this platform), truly will establish your position at the top. Congrats!.
The whole idea of dragging Mac apps to an iPad would be amazing, especially if it switches to using iPad processing power. Of course for that we would need iPads that had desktop chips, built in 👀
You should do a video recapping your video from last year and what's happened since, like the touch features that went away in Monterey. I feel like that would be really interesting.
I would be ashamed if Sidecar died. It’s an amazing feature that lets me plug my Mac Mini in one room and use my iPad to control it as a primary display. Because, and I doubt I am the only one, hate having to lug around a monitor to use my Mac mini. Sure, I could get a laptop, however, that’s yet more hardware I still have to carry around. I still think macOS is great for iPad, especially with the magic keyboard now being a great product.
The missing support for just two iPads might be intentional. Designing it this way will push developers to support mouse and keyboard properly in every iPad app from now on and in a few years it will simply become a requirement. At that point there is hardly any reason left for iPadOS apps to opt out of mac support. Which is why I believe the long term goal is to have every iPadOS app supported on macOS and I would not be surprised if they start doing something similar for iOS sooner or later.
It would be so nice if we could use the iPad as a display for a Mac mini without having to resort to something like Luna. I mean, if they are already doing this Universal Control, it couldn’t be that much more complicated to allow you to swipe some way to interface with your Mac desktop. It would be like bringing macOS to your iPad, but not since you’d have to have a Mac anyway.
It’s super cool I just don’t know how much I would actually use it other than for a more seamless airdrop. The dragging between photoshop on the other hand would be AMAZING. I often want to use the desktop version of software, but then also use my Apple Pencil on a project and that would be super handy instead of saving, transfer, edit, saving, then transfer back. As far as sidecar goes I really only have one use case but it’s SUPER handy. I have teleprompter software that I run on my Mac that uses a secondary display for the actual prompter. When people are in my recording booth it’s super nice to just put the iPad in there and be able to control the recording software and update anything on the prompter at my Mac. That has made recoding voice overs with clients WAY faster for me.
I was on Apple's side when it came to touch-screen macs/macbooks but also find myself wanting to touch my macbook screen sometimes especially after using my iPad. I think touchscreen macs might be coming at some point. Or a convertible device that switches from iPadOS to macOS when docked.
“Though not always the best software.” Understatement of the year. Sooo much garbage has been enabled on Macs. I prefer phrasing it like this: “though not always the worst software.”
Good one! You suggested something really cool near the end. If Universal Control worked between iOS devices (with no Mac engaged) you could use your iPhone next to your iPad to do all of this stuff. I think that would be amazing! On short trips or commuting and whatever, I might only have those two devices and no laptop or desktop, and it would be awesome to drag between apps, especially different ones, on the two devices.
How well does this work with multiple monitors and multiple macs? Can you place then place the monitors in any crazy order, like for example in a plus shape.
I'd LOVE to use this for live-streaming and Zoom calls from my live-streaming setup. Can you adjust the the iPad screen to be mirrored so you could use it with a teleprompter?
I've used sidecar a few times and thought it was cool but I didn't know this much was possible with Universal control. snazzy beard labs is crushing it
Multittasking should be optimised for Universal Control. Imagine having to move your cursor all the way to the next screen just to open a certain window. There should be a shortcut or hotkey that changes the opened window on any of the devides or one that automatically moves your cursor over to the next screen so you don't have to drag it all the time.
Your first wish about application windows traversing the devices is probably possible. This is something that X11 does on Linux. Any machine can be forwarded an application window apart from the machine that actually runs the program. You can run X11 on Mac, called XQuartz, but Cocoa can probably do this on it's own. I wouldn't be surprised if this feature shows up soon.
This could be very exciting, but also be rather complex to take past it's initial state. Dragging over windows sounds great and Sidecar shows that streaming can be done with acceptable latency and quality, but to properly blend into iPad OS or MacOS, apps would need to render UI appropriate for the device it's currently displayed on. This means all Mac OS apps need feature complete iPad OS UI.
Great video. I also don't want MacOS on the iPad and I don't get the people who say it should because the iPad Pro has M1. The only thing I'd love to see on the iPad that MacOS has is maybe better file management on the iPadOS.
One cool thing they could do is to allow people to use iPads or iPhones as external cpu. Lets say you were doing a 3d render on the Mac. It would be cool to connect the iPads to the Mac and use their power to help in the render. Probably you would need to plug them using a cable but that would be ok.
Eh... it comes at a cost though. Windows android subsystem will let you run apk files with side loading... meanwhile Apple lets developers disable the ability to even run their iOS apps on M1 macs despite no technical limitation preventing them from running. I don't really see any major benefits to this over the ability to just run whatever iOS app I want on a second monitor... and yet Apple ensures that you can't do this.
Even if apps don't share the same binaries it would be cool to streamed windows. So it's kind of like sidecar, but just one window. So I could drag Blender to the iPad for example and do a lot of editing on the iPad because it just feels more natural to interact with Blender on a touch display, but then when I render the Blender it's still using the Macbook's processor.
File transfer seems legit as long as it is inside icloud. The universal control just skips some user interface steps (since the file is in cloud and accessible from both platforms mac and/or ipad). It will be intresting to test if a file from another place (stored just on mac without being in icloud of for instance from dropbox/onedrive) can be seamlesslly dragged to ipad and used there...
Will this replace sidecar? I use sidecar actively for retouching photoshop projects and stuff, this is cool too but my workflow would be completely different
I’m surprised you didn’t showcase any use cases for gaming. Are there any? I was thinking that for non-M1 users perhaps this is how they night run iPad games on their Mac but then again that doesn’t really matter right? Is there any advantage to this for gaming from your perspective?
Fun Fact: didn't realize this existed because I only recently got a newer MacBook Pro and now tend to take my iPad and Mac to University because I often need a secondary screen. I only discovered this feature accidentally and didn't know what it was. But it turned out to be the most useful thing I discovered in the past couple of years.
I would say that macOS should be on the iPad Pro at the very least for a surface Pro competitor. iPad OS is just a touch friendly macOS with a gesture bar. And considering MacOS should be able to run iPad and iPhone apps now, it would make more sense to put macOS on the iPad pros since they’re for PRO-fessionals and would actually justify the magic keyboard and the laptop price point.
I'm using Universal Control on a daily basis now, with my use case being typing notes out on my iPad when I gotta type them and just use my Pencil to draw any diagrams if needed. I don't need to buy a Bluetooth keyboard & mouse anymore! It saves space on my desk too. Sidecar would work but it's just been unreliable over WiFi for me and the iPad OneNote app's just better scaled for the screen.
After updating my Macbook it worked flawlessly. I am using an M1 Macbook Air and an iPad air. However, like you, I also was not able to adjust the iPad's brightness from the MacBook's brightness button. It did work the other way around where the iPad brightness adjusted the Macbook's brightness. Which isnt nearly as convient. It did do the job tho.
I’ve been thinking about universal control every day since announcement. I use my ipad as a third display almost every day and it’s just a bit too buggy. Can’t wait for universal control.
THIS is the future of those cliche TV Show scenes where everyone just "flicks" whatever they're doing to any display in the room they're in. This is very exciting.
I was scared that this would be slowly abandoned like airpower but they actually delivered! THIS FEATURE IS AMAZING
Indeed it is!
the average person will not use this
@@bbllaakkee I don't care about the average person, I will be using this a lot, excellent feature
@@bbllaakkee if the average person has both a mac and an iPad they probably will use it sometimes
I've been expecting for this one, i do use a Windows machine with Synergy to my work Macbook Pro and my iPad feels so lonely!
The missing feature that would actually make this setup competing to use for me is multiple device audio streams through AirPods (AirPods connected to more than one device at a time). This would allow me to play a stream on the iPad, while continuing to work on the mac, without having to think about manual audio device switching, or hoping that the auto switch feature behaves (it simply does not during zoom meetings). Other than that, this is really fun.
I think it’s a bandwidth issue with current AirPods, if the rumours are true for 2nd gen AirPod Pro’s later this year with Airplay instead of Bluetooth I think they’ll definitely bring this feature
just get galaxy buds pro, can be connect to as many devices as you want
@@biolinkstudios Do Galaxy Buds mix multiple simultaneous sources like op is suggesting? afaik bluetooth as a protocol doesn't do it
Auto switch works great for me most of the time, but yes I would love to mix audio from iPad + Mac on the AirPods
I agree. MacOS in particular is not nearly as good as iOS and iPadOS at switching audio sources. If they made the iPad-to-Mac switch seamless, that might be okay, but your suggestion would be a more comprehensive, fool-proof solution
Surprised they didn't add Ultra Wideband to the Mac and iPad and use that as a means of figuring out where devices are for Universal Control. Seems like a great use case for it
Yea but that makes universal control available only for newer Macs and ipads don't have UWB yet. Not to mention it doesn't really need the UWB, it can intuitively recognize where the second device is since users would only go to the extreme edge of a screen if there was another screen beyond that edge.
It should be in all their devices. I would love if handoff was as simple as swiping something on my phone in the direction of my apple tv or mac.
@@brddork I would feel like iron man 🚀 it would be very cool!
@@marvinjohn As mentioned it doesn't always work and you can manually override the order of devices in settings. UWB would help mitigate that and improve the accuracy. Apple loves being the "it just works" company
Yeah, that's the first thing I thought of too, UWB would be good for that. Could be an optional thing too and not require UWB devices.
Not that I can use it, I'm an Android person... But I don't need it anyway, I'm already doing the same thing and have been for like 2 years with Link-to-Windows which already has EVERY SINGLE FEATURE discussed in the video, even drag & drop file transfer and seamless clipboard sync.
Granted there were a LOT of bugs at first (cause Microsoft) but they've been ironed out. I'm typing with my PC keyboard on my Galaxy S21 right now.
And yes you heard right, on my Galaxy PHONE not TABLET. The fact that Apple made this iPad only is such a tpyical bullshit Apple move and exactly why I stopped buying all their crap as soon as Steve left.
14:09 While being able to drag an open document from macOS to iPadOS and have it just work instantly with an iPad version of an app (such as Photoshop) is rife with technical hurdles and would require a lot of adoption by developers, there is a slightly different way Apple could make this all work with the tech they have right now. Basically, have Universal Control let you drag a window to an iPad screen, and when you do the iPad switches into Sidecar (so it switches from KVM mode to screen-over-wifi mode). When you drag the Photoshop window back to the Mac, the iPad goes back to whatever app it was in before. There’s still some design considerations to solve here & there, but it’s all completely technologically plausible right now.
My prediction: Apple announces exactly that this June at WWDC 2022.
I often wish, that the iPad's OS feels more like a lighter weight macos than a more powerfull ios. I'd love things like sideloading apps or just having a "Desktop" in general. Also, multi monitor support and windowed apps would be awesome
🙏monitor support 🙏
At the end of the day there’s nothing more powerful about it, under the hood it’s still just iOS.
@@goodvibesbeats2221 yea, that’s the problem
@@goodvibesbeats2221 in my opinion (and i'm writing this on my m1 ipad pro) iPadOS is a worse iOS or at least was a worse iOS
the fact the you couldnt place widgets on your home screen in iPadOS 14 but you could in iOS 14 clearly shows that iPadOS is inferior
to wait another year for iPadOS 15 to get a feature from iOS 14 just feels strange
same goes for the weather and calculator apps
why cant they just run on iPadOS? just give me a small picture in picture version of the iOS App...
like on the 12.9" iPad Pro they could easily just give me a layover window in the size of my iPhone13ProMax in which the calc or weather is running but no, i have to switch to my phone or get a third party app to do those simple things
and as he said i still hate the fact that on my 12.9" M1 iPad Pro (1TB --> 16GB RAM) i cant run FinalCut but my mums base model M1 Macbook Air with half the RAM and one GPU Core less can run it
i paid 1010€ more than her for a device with the "same" chip, have a better display, more RAM, more GPU cores and i cant run the same software? make it make sense
dont get me wrong, i love my iPad but it feels kinda wrong or like it doesnt get the love from apple that it deserves
its basically a big iPhone with a slightly worse OS but Mac hardware
@@goodvibesbeats2221 damn, that comment got long :D sorry :D
Use case: I actually stopped using sidecar because it was a huge tax on my Mac keeping that display on. With this, I could just use the native apps on my iPad, without reaching around to touch, just using my regular mouse and keyboard.
Is it really taxing? I’ve used it, but I didn’t see any resource getting hogged by using Sidecar. I’ll have to give it a look. I use a 43” Samsung TV as my main monitor, the MacBook as secondary, and the sidecar screen to function like a graphics tablet. It makes the fan spin up hard, but I don’t get lagging.
@@mikabreto It was for me, but maybe because I have an older MacBook? I'm running a 2017 MBP
@@mikabreto what mac are you using?
@@camiloescobar1865 2019 MacBook Pro 16” i7
@@camiloescobar1865 not taxing at all for me, 2021 16" m1 max
Snazzy is such a good tech UA-camr, his content always feels so refined, well thought out and well produced
Thanks!!
“A promise that you probably forgot about” …. I have been waiting SO LONG for this. Every release I wait with baited breath for the moment I can use one BT mouse and keyboard for macs & my iPad. Maybe it’s just me but DANG has this been a feature for which I have longed deeply!
Powerful iPads should be able to virtualise macOS applications tho via something like Rosetta2. And I have the feeling Apple is working on that
Logitech is probably not going to like this making some of the biggest features of the master line obsolete - at least if you are using only Apple devices
The Mac market share is pretty low. They probably don’t care. And nothing is stopping people from using a Logitech mouse anyways since it isn’t limited to Apple keyboard/mouse/trackpad.
But it could work between Mac and windows unlike Apple’s one
As long as Apple does not improve the Magic Mouse Logitech will continue selling mice to Mac people.
@@Dionyzos I can't believe that charge port still has not been fixed after so many years. $80 for a mouse that can't even be used while charging.
I suspect that enough people aren’t Apple-only users that Logitech is likely in the clear. They seem a little more focused on consumers who are less into Apple in the first place, who like at least some of the products but aren’t all in on the ecosystem and/or don’t fully get into the Apple vibe
Thank you for showing us the already amazing features of universal control running in its beta version. I am seeing myself using this on the daily basis. Keep up with the good work on this kind of demos. 👌🏻
Thanks!
just use icloud. why bother with universal control?
you can even access your ipad files on windows PC via icloud drive
dont tell me you dont hv good wifi
safari links?? duh, sync ur safari across devices.. 🤷🏽♂️
@@jangguttok7437 you’re missing the big picture here. Is not just files. Using apps across platforms is the big thing
@@SoundbeatsFree what major apps on ipad tht you severely want to control via mac tht the data/files not readily available using icloud/icloud drive?
notes? garageband? photos? music? excel? word? safari?
@@SoundbeatsFree
9:48 that task can be done using icloud drive
10:24 duhh.. sync your safari across devices man
Great one! Thanks guys. 💜 I can tell you’re making improvements to the creation process, the flow in the latest videos is incredible, and the shots are more atmospheric and diverse. Nice!
We're working on it! Thanks. :D
This is my first video I’ve ever seen from you, definitely will not be my last I love the BMW M shirt, and most importantly I love that you major video long enough to cover a ton of points, but I never felt like you blabbed or went on too long about a subject. It seemed like you had to speak fast but you also spoke super concise, which shows that you really know what you’re talking about and have a passion about these things! 200% subscribed
The only thing I actually feel I need from Apple: let us use the Apple Pencil on MacBooks' trackpad.
I hate having to bring my Wacom around if I plan to work on the go and I feel like it could be easily implemented with state of the art technology
Yes please
Pretty sure the trackpad would need special hardware antennas to work with it, so wouldn't be a software change, still a cool idea
@@smeegle if only there was a huge hardware update recently they could've included that with...
If your doing something that would work with a pencil would sidecar not be suitable?
@@carrotylemons1190 It’s still a second device I’d need to carry along
Amazing video Quinn! Your videos are way ahead of the others regarding the quality of the content and explaining things in an understandable way for everyone
Cheers!
I think it'd be cool to be able to drag windows and apps between devices. Apps that are available on both can support it, and for those that don't, Apple already has ad hoc airplay support. Just create an airplay session for that window.
Thats an awesome idea!
That would be so cool!
Why use airplay when sidecar exists
Is the AppleSilicon MacBook Pro Review still planned? Have I missed it?
I still have some hope that Apple will make a touch/Pencil-compatible iMac like the Surface Studio, basically a giant iPad Pro for artists. I doubt it’ll actually happen but I would buy one immediately if it ever happened.
It's going to sound stupid but they're just going to tell you to get a Wacom with touch support. I agree it would be excellent, but like you said it's doubtful it'll happen.
Wacom’s are great… still would also buy the giant touch iMac
This is the reason I stopped buying Macs, need my touchscreen and my iPad is only a UA-cam machine.
I have to agree with Apple's logic that touching and writing on a vertical surface is an absolutely awful experience though. A bigger iPad pro would be my preference.
@@5mattcolour vertical sucks, but if they could take inspiration from the surface studio so it would lie at an angle that would be perfect.
14:54 there is something special. Before the feature of two iPad interact with one another, it have to support external display natively not mirror
While it's true that iPads sold way better, it should be noted that they were cheaper and could be used by a wider array of people more easily. Plus, it was the only REAL tablet option people had... so while people could buy Androids or Windows computers, iPad was in it's own bracket...
That was implied, moron.
Right now my main gripe with iPads are simply that you cannot side load apps, I would love to use VS Code or Blender on my iPad.
Geeze while I'm a Windows and Android user, the Apple ecosystem is so temping at times. If iPhone goes USB-C and this feature becomes iPhone compatible, that would make me switch over and keep the PC for my gaming stuff.
Apple has a patent that blows USB-C away, terabits/second transfer speeds.
@@tonyburzio4107 neat, but USB C is the standard now. Plus Thunderbolt 4 is USB C and there are very few niche cases that would even saturate that.
USB C port is larger than the lighting port so highly unlikely they’ll ever go usb c, more likely to go wireless
@@user-np7kr4wx7g not to mention that usb c is more fragile/less water resistant/more prone to scratching the phone/little more difficult to plug in.
Love this song at 16:43 Nice to see a video with real (non-youtubey 😄) music.
What song is it?
I would love to see them implement a shared version of this, so that you could for example help your friend that sits next to you with something, without getting up. Just like it's with AirDrop, you could turn this on only for contacts.
They could also add audio pass-through feature into universal control, so that you could use literally any headphones or speakers on a Mac to hear sound from iPad, or even iPhone, while working simultaneously on a few devices. I could see a few use cases for that, like scrolling through instagram or watching a live stream while working.
I hate it when I'm on a Discord call on a Mac, and I want to do something on my iPhone, but some video starts playing and my AirPods switch to my iPhone, leaving the call on speaker.
like in avengers 1 when bruce and tony were passing info to each other through the screens in the lab
I am an English teacher. I use 2 macs, a MacBook Pro an ipad and a projector for my lessons and lesson planning. The fact I can create lessons on my Big Mac and control all of them with just 1 mouse and keyboard and also the drag and drop feature is saving me so much time with uploads downloads and using drive and iCloud. It’s amazing.
If the iPad pros ran Mac OS I would buy one without hesitation.
I think we’ll be seeing people put Mac OS on iPads very soon now that they’re on the same hardware
same
What I would to see is combining universal control and side car. I want the features of universal control, but when needed, be able to drag a window from the Mac onto the ipad for display.
WEEEELLLL ACTUALLY... the beard's alright, but this video is great.
Great video - I would recommend changing your backdrop. The darker blue/black on the left side is really crushed
Imagine plugging an external display to iPad and it will show MacOS on screen when plugged in. (Similar to Samsung Dex). Where Dex is android based, MacOS on External Display can be same as actual MacOS because the processor is the same(M1!) and the binary works on both iPad and Mac. I don't see any technological barrier to show MacOS on External Display other than Apple not willing to. Paring this scenario with Universal Control could be mind blowing! (BOOM!)
Yes! I would kill for this feature. All I need is my iPad and my Logitech keyboard/mouse. Even better when the iPhone becomes powerful enough to handle all this.
Your videos are the best. Even more excited for the public release now!
I only wish the Magic Keyboard on iPad had the top function row now :””(
A little tip for older devices, you can copy and paste between ios/ipados/macos - so 50% you can do with older stuff. Need some temp code from some email that only your business ipad has? copy it to clipboard, go to the other device and paste, it will be there. Very nifty stuff. This newer stuff is almost 'super fancy smart clipboard' with a security token attached or whatever.
Yes. But still the iPad (Pro) is way too overpowered for most users. I hope that one day I will be able to run a solid Linux VM on my iPad without the need of a developer workarounds. I imagine docking the iPad to a dock, which then delivers video output to external monitors to run real desktop programs. imo the isolation of Apple hardware is too big and other than financial profit, there are no real advantages.
The Microsoft surface devices took another direction. And while we can argue about the quality of the operating system and the devices itself, its still more portable to have a tablet for handwriting and a laptop in one device, which also supports full desktop apps.
Maybe its just my personal preference, but I‘d rather have less devices which are powerful in many tasks, than having multiple devices which can do only certain tasks good.
This must be all because of profit and I think its a shame :(
Well that explains all the cryptic tweets from a few days ago!
Instead of dragging with mouse between screens, just right click (or better keyboard shortcut), move, move to device. I hate dragging windows around with a mouse.
My, my, Mr. Snazzy, for all the times that I’ve popped in on your channel, today you produced one the most useful and well edited (did my rap on you regarding the old wall of iPhone boxes help push you to your current set ups?). Regardless, I hope this is the future of Snazzy Labs. Your less over-the-top presentation, (which is rampant on this platform), truly will establish your position at the top. Congrats!.
The whole idea of dragging Mac apps to an iPad would be amazing, especially if it switches to using iPad processing power. Of course for that we would need iPads that had desktop chips, built in 👀
You know they do right
They actually put smartphone chips in Macs, so they aren't going to put desktop chips in iPads.
@@groszak1 they have desktop chips in both mac and ipad
@@jackytaly What? They use Intel for both?
@@groszak1 nah, M1 chips, they are still ARM, so he was wrong, they actually put iPad chips in Macs
Great video thank you for showcasing it. I would like to see more of this if possible. Also, I love your t-shirt. Where did you get it ?
As a car guy, I feel very conflicted about your shirt....like I'm a little triggered inside, but I want one.
it's from Accidental Tech Podcast, look it up
@@hamgelato8143 thank you!
You should do a video recapping your video from last year and what's happened since, like the touch features that went away in Monterey. I feel like that would be really interesting.
I would be ashamed if Sidecar died. It’s an amazing feature that lets me plug my Mac Mini in one room and use my iPad to control it as a primary display. Because, and I doubt I am the only one, hate having to lug around a monitor to use my Mac mini. Sure, I could get a laptop, however, that’s yet more hardware I still have to carry around. I still think macOS is great for iPad, especially with the magic keyboard now being a great product.
Sidecar will not die. It serves a different purpose compared to Universal Control.
link to the tee?
The missing support for just two iPads might be intentional. Designing it this way will push developers to support mouse and keyboard properly in every iPad app from now on and in a few years it will simply become a requirement. At that point there is hardly any reason left for iPadOS apps to opt out of mac support. Which is why I believe the long term goal is to have every iPadOS app supported on macOS and I would not be surprised if they start doing something similar for iOS sooner or later.
I could see iOS apps running on mac as little side apps as a window on the side of the screen.
It would be so nice if we could use the iPad as a display for a Mac mini without having to resort to something like Luna. I mean, if they are already doing this Universal Control, it couldn’t be that much more complicated to allow you to swipe some way to interface with your Mac desktop. It would be like bringing macOS to your iPad, but not since you’d have to have a Mac anyway.
I’ma need to know where I can get a shirt like that
It's from the Accidental Tech Podcast store
atp.fm/store
It’s super cool I just don’t know how much I would actually use it other than for a more seamless airdrop. The dragging between photoshop on the other hand would be AMAZING. I often want to use the desktop version of software, but then also use my Apple Pencil on a project and that would be super handy instead of saving, transfer, edit, saving, then transfer back.
As far as sidecar goes I really only have one use case but it’s SUPER handy. I have teleprompter software that I run on my Mac that uses a secondary display for the actual prompter. When people are in my recording booth it’s super nice to just put the iPad in there and be able to control the recording software and update anything on the prompter at my Mac. That has made recoding voice overs with clients WAY faster for me.
I was on Apple's side when it came to touch-screen macs/macbooks but also find myself wanting to touch my macbook screen sometimes especially after using my iPad. I think touchscreen macs might be coming at some point. Or a convertible device that switches from iPadOS to macOS when docked.
I don’t think you should shave your beard.
Loved the Sponsored ad for the Robo-cleaner!!;-)
The iPad SHOULD have the ability to switch between MacOS and iPadOS, especially when used with a keyboard and mouse. Change my mind.
I love these type of videos from you!
Finally new beta!
So how does it work with a Silicon M1 Mac Mini ?
“Though not always the best software.” Understatement of the year. Sooo much garbage has been enabled on Macs. I prefer phrasing it like this: “though not always the worst software.”
Not to mention the menu bar notch fiasco.
so when are you going to make a buyer's guide for ipads and macbooks? Taking into consideration the forthcoming machines in 2022.
Love the song you chose in the beginning - it was the first funky track I listened to on ArtList and now it’s in my playlists!
How well would an iMac + Macbook pro setup with this feature go?
Good one! You suggested something really cool near the end. If Universal Control worked between iOS devices (with no Mac engaged) you could use your iPhone next to your iPad to do all of this stuff. I think that would be amazing! On short trips or commuting and whatever, I might only have those two devices and no laptop or desktop, and it would be awesome to drag between apps, especially different ones, on the two devices.
Woah that works way better than I thought, didn't know you could do drag and drop and it wasn't just kbm control
How well does this work with multiple monitors and multiple macs? Can you place then place the monitors in any crazy order, like for example in a plus shape.
Does this connection only work between MacBooks and iPads or are Macs and Mac Mini’s in the loop too?
Yes you have seen it before it's called Huawei Harmony OS. And yes i know this is not available in the US so i guess I'm happy it is now.
great, you can now do on three screens what you could already do on one. I'm thrilled
Great video! Which Voron are you building?
I'd LOVE to use this for live-streaming and Zoom calls from my live-streaming setup. Can you adjust the the iPad screen to be mirrored so you could use it with a teleprompter?
Does it work without the mac? Could I use two iPads side by side?
Wow, you got a koda? I've heard that they aren't great, mainly from aging wheels
I've used sidecar a few times and thought it was cool but I didn't know this much was possible with Universal control. snazzy beard labs is crushing it
Tablet will be able to be the keyboard for Mac soon
Omg your kiddy is hecking adorable!!!
Multittasking should be optimised for Universal Control. Imagine having to move your cursor all the way to the next screen just to open a certain window. There should be a shortcut or hotkey that changes the opened window on any of the devides or one that automatically moves your cursor over to the next screen so you don't have to drag it all the time.
Your first wish about application windows traversing the devices is probably possible. This is something that X11 does on Linux. Any machine can be forwarded an application window apart from the machine that actually runs the program. You can run X11 on Mac, called XQuartz, but Cocoa can probably do this on it's own. I wouldn't be surprised if this feature shows up soon.
This could be very exciting, but also be rather complex to take past it's initial state.
Dragging over windows sounds great and Sidecar shows that streaming can be done with acceptable latency and quality, but to properly blend into iPad OS or MacOS, apps would need to render UI appropriate for the device it's currently displayed on. This means all Mac OS apps need feature complete iPad OS UI.
How does it work with an external display attached to a Mac?
Great video. I also don't want MacOS on the iPad and I don't get the people who say it should because the iPad Pro has M1. The only thing I'd love to see on the iPad that MacOS has is maybe better file management on the iPadOS.
Better file management and external monitor support! External monitor support is what's holding me from using it for work
One cool thing they could do is to allow people to use iPads or iPhones as external cpu.
Lets say you were doing a 3d render on the Mac. It would be cool to connect the iPads to the Mac and use their power to help in the render. Probably you would need to plug them using a cable but that would be ok.
You sir are a pro user of apple operating systems. Learning so much from you
9:55 Voron!!
What model, and how's the build going?
Who did the intro and outro music for the video? Sounds great, and sounds a lot like Scary Pockets...
Are you not using Spark anymore?
Maaan I wish there were these cool things granted by one big ecosystem like this on android/windows
Eh... it comes at a cost though. Windows android subsystem will let you run apk files with side loading... meanwhile Apple lets developers disable the ability to even run their iOS apps on M1 macs despite no technical limitation preventing them from running. I don't really see any major benefits to this over the ability to just run whatever iOS app I want on a second monitor... and yet Apple ensures that you can't do this.
Even if apps don't share the same binaries it would be cool to streamed windows. So it's kind of like sidecar, but just one window. So I could drag Blender to the iPad for example and do a lot of editing on the iPad because it just feels more natural to interact with Blender on a touch display, but then when I render the Blender it's still using the Macbook's processor.
File transfer seems legit as long as it is inside icloud. The universal control just skips some user interface steps (since the file is in cloud and accessible from both platforms mac and/or ipad). It will be intresting to test if a file from another place (stored just on mac without being in icloud of for instance from dropbox/onedrive) can be seamlesslly dragged to ipad and used there...
It works just as if Airdrop would. It’s quite seamless.
So when are you releasing the Voron build video?
this feature is amazing, i would love to be able to use it between a linux computer a mac and and an ipad
Will this replace sidecar? I use sidecar actively for retouching photoshop projects and stuff, this is cool too but my workflow would be completely different
This channels deserves way more subscribers.
I’m surprised you didn’t showcase any use cases for gaming. Are there any? I was thinking that for non-M1 users perhaps this is how they night run iPad games on their Mac but then again that doesn’t really matter right? Is there any advantage to this for gaming from your perspective?
Fun Fact: didn't realize this existed because I only recently got a newer MacBook Pro and now tend to take my iPad and Mac to University because I often need a secondary screen. I only discovered this feature accidentally and didn't know what it was. But it turned out to be the most useful thing I discovered in the past couple of years.
Can the WiFi be "link only" because I am using ethernet instead for internet?
I would say that macOS should be on the iPad Pro at the very least for a surface Pro competitor.
iPad OS is just a touch friendly macOS with a gesture bar.
And considering MacOS should be able to run iPad and iPhone apps now, it would make more sense to put macOS on the iPad pros since they’re for PRO-fessionals and would actually justify the magic keyboard and the laptop price point.
I'm using Universal Control on a daily basis now, with my use case being typing notes out on my iPad when I gotta type them and just use my Pencil to draw any diagrams if needed. I don't need to buy a Bluetooth keyboard & mouse anymore! It saves space on my desk too. Sidecar would work but it's just been unreliable over WiFi for me and the iPad OneNote app's just better scaled for the screen.
After updating my Macbook it worked flawlessly. I am using an M1 Macbook Air and an iPad air. However, like you, I also was not able to adjust the iPad's brightness from the MacBook's brightness button. It did work the other way around where the iPad brightness adjusted the Macbook's brightness. Which isnt nearly as convient. It did do the job tho.
I’ve been thinking about universal control every day since announcement. I use my ipad as a third display almost every day and it’s just a bit too buggy. Can’t wait for universal control.
I just yelled out loud, “You bought a fucking CODA?!?!” so loud that my wife jumped.
Might’ve missed this, is this M1 hardware only?
I just need external monitor support for iPad. Will that feature ever come to iPadOS?
That T-shirt is an incredible play on the M1 chip and the legendary BMW M1.