The 2021 MacBook Pros are Insane
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- The 2021 MacBook Pro gets torn town, benchmarked, analyzed, and notched. Is the hype justified? I submit that it certainly... might be.
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Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
0:38 - Teardown
5:58 - Thunderbolt Buses
6:55 - MAXIMUM CHARGE!
8:09 - High Impedance Headphones
10:55 - MagSafe 3 vs 2008 MagSafe
12:31 - Magnets, B*tch
13:21 - Insertion Test
14:31 - Notch Things...
15:24 - Rounded Corners vs Square Corners
16:11 - Breaking EVERYTHING
17:31 - snazzybrokey.exe
18:49 - Fullscreen Mode
20:02 - Microphone Oddities
21:04 - "Studio Quality Microphones"
21:22 - keyboard feel, keyboard feel, keyboa
22:47 - But how fast is it?
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The M1 MacBook Pro with M1 Pro and M1 Max has just released to much fanfare. These devices have a ton of interest from the general public after the addition of HDMI, and SD card slot, a high-impedance headphone jack, improved cooling, and more-even if that means it has to have a notch.
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It's great to see a large human handle these laptops. I was beginning to think the 16inch model was going to be too big, but now I just realise that most tech UA-camrs are tiny.
If i was witty enough i could have made a short LTT joke, but i’m not, so all i can give is this meta comment.
“Large human” I’m laughing so hard 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@xoxoryan5811 To be specific, I did primarily mean tall.
Mkbhd. Marques is pretty large.
Hey now, let’s not get into a laptop measuring contest.
19:48 There is a way to do that.
Since MacOS Monterey you can go to "System Preferences -> Dock & Menu Bar" At the Bottom you can then uncheck the option "Automatically hide and show the menu bar in full screen".
If you do this, the menu bar will alway be visible, even when you go into full screen mode
Can confirm this works. Should be default behavior on these new machines. Thanks for the tip.
You think snazzy does not know that? He wrote the complete OS himself. Can’t believe you are telling him what to do. Unreal.
Little bit sad, that Quinn, the hardcore Mac user didn't know about this. :D
@@MrMarcetLP I never use full screen mode. It is an abomination to hardcore Mac users lol
@@snazzy You’ll be amazed at how many people were conplaining that the menu bar might be persistant in full screen mode when the macbook pros were first announced. Apparently they want full screen mode to be purely focused on the software without any distractions like the menu bar lol.
I actually like how the fullscreen mode hides the menu bar, if im in a fullscreen app I want to be immersed in that app. Another nice change here is that when hovering on the menu bar in a fullscreen app it no longer pushes down that fullscreen app which was very annoying and caused a lot of accidental clicks.
Yesssss omg that was always so annoying. And it instantly appears when you hover over it on this MacBook, before you had to hold your mouse there and wait for a moment. Then it pushes down on everything, which would sometimes even glitch out the app I was in. I just gave up and just expand the window to the corners of the screen, and I always have the dock hidden. And I changed the dock appearing speed to be instant, so as soon as my mouse is down there, it shows up
Yes this felt like a very deliberate choice by Apple and I think they made the right one.
I agree with you, not hiding the menu bar in full screen mode will be contrary to the idea of full screen mode, most of the time. Now it could be an option.
Yes I agree with you. you know what makes it better? "An Option". It would be better if user had the option to hide it inside apps or no, or even better if you could choose to have it hidden in certain apps. After all I believe having options is better than having none.
There is a new setting for that in System Preferences.
19:57 - I guess they made the bar disappear just because people would be annoyed by it when watching videos in fullscreen
Absolutely
It’s definitely the right choice for default bar behaviour. Many ordinary people would be annoyed watching Netflix with these machines and always seeing the bar up there. If you want it differently just change the settings.
I feel they could probably just sync the bar with the content that’s being displayed though. Black for videos, and then color match it like they did with safari.
О, Артём, а ты тут что забыл?)
I agree that is probably the reason, however it would be nice if it could be configured by application. For example, there are many apps I would like to run in full screen but keep the menu bar.
THANK YOU for not focusing on the video editing side of things like every other youtube video
I do NOT miss the distracting stock music used in the background of so many other channels. I fucking hate the “weird angle” broll/cutaway editing. Snazzy is always straightforward: what you see is what you get. Sometimes he’s annoying (imo), but his batting average is well above .500.
I had some hope when he mentioned how every other UA-camr focuses on video editing...until "Now, let's open Davinci Resolve!" 🤦
@@panic0112 UA-camrs just can't help themselves. they need to cramp video editing down our throats
and complaining "it's not rendering my 10 mins of 4K footage so much faster than my M1" duuuuhh
@@unlink1649 that’s just not fair. The reason is youtubers spend a lot of time editing videos. Every 10ish minute video you watch has a day or many days behind them, it’s not as if youtubers spend the length of time it takes to render them only. It’s many many hours out of their video production work.
What other workload would you suggest? What is repeatable, will show a significant difference, and replicates real world applications?
“Here’s a guitar pick for reference”
.. proceeds to pull out largest guitar pick ever made
That's not really a guitar pick, it's one of those ifixit wedge tools to open laptop covers with lots of clips holding it in place
It's a Bass pick
@@Fezzent you use picks for bass? ... i hear davie504 slap noises
😂😂
@@NanescuRadu1 not epic
Thank you for reaching out to other professionals! I really don't need to see 30 different tests of the same video editor that i will never use!
Stoked that your review will include things other than just video editing - as a software engineer I can’t wait
The inside is one of the best looking computers I have ever seen
yeah no😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@chuck_norris yeah yes
The packaging is absolutely delicious on the eyes.
@@mxvia. I think he was "just kidding" 😃
Someone should make a clear plastic panel
As someone who upgraded from the 2015 MBP, I still can't believe how good the speakers are on these things now. Like it's actually enjoyable to listen to music on them.
I still use my 2015mbp everyday. although I recently got a m1 Mac mini so I'm definitely interested in these new machines at some point
Did you pick it up from the Apple store? I ordered a custom build within the hour of launch but mine is scheduled for mid-November
As somebody who upgraded from the 2015 MBP, I still can’t believe how good the everything is on these now.
@@VRcation lol me, I ordered actually on 10/20 and the delivery date for my custom 14" build is 11/19-29. I went to the Apple Store 2 days ago and there was one base 14" in stock but I passed the opportunity so I can have my upgraded SSD and CPU cores.
I went from the 2015 to 2016 with that exact experience. The 2016 is the one that introduced these kind of speakers and they've been increasingly more amazing ever since.
I’m excited to see the benchmarks you alluded to. Especially ones related to software development (compilation, ML, etc). Fantastic video as always.
I love how these videos always feel quality. It’s like the polish of a clickbait UA-camr but with the content of a grizzled no-bullshit tech journalist. In a world where a lot of these unboxing/reviews of the new machines feels like reading off the spec sheet, this video was pretty special. Good work!
19:35 you can actually change this in the settings now, under dock & menubar and then remove the tick at hide menu bar in full screen mode
Quinn- The guy who opens the bottom lid first than the top lid. 🤣🤣
Great video! One small thing to point out regarding the menu bar in full screen view (19:40). That behavior can be personalized in the Dock & Menu Bar pane in System Preferences!
Quinn, thx for this. I love this first impression format hope it stays. Its a bit of a throwback to the days you would just turn on the camera and start talking.
This guy is amazing! not the fastest but his reviews are always different and really interesting. Thanks a ton man!
yea, he just get's it. Nobody cares about the video stuff of standard 3D benchmarks. Run some machine learning on that baby and show me some stats
His is the one review I’ve been waiting for before completing my order. Shame Apple don’t give Quinn access to review units.
Totally agree. Love this channel.
@@benhainesuk Lol why would apple give quinn anything 😳😳🤔🤔😂😂
Have seen so many reviewed, but this the only one that answered my curiosities, especially about that notch....
Quinn: Carrying 3 macbooks
Broke ass me, eating ramen: Hmm, interesting
The problem is I'm now eating ramen too.
@@snazzy Same energy when college students spend all their money on a brand new maxed out MacBookPro so that they can use it for google docs and zoom. LMAO
@@flamingkillermc2806 right here🙋🏼♂️🥲
But you get to keep that ramen buddy!
@@flamingkillermc2806 I’m that broke student with 14” model on the way, eating Ramen 🍜 too 😭
Great to hear you’re having different kinds of professionals coming in future videos! I’m so tired of all this focus on video editing only among UA-camrs.
Glad he's doing that too. To be fair though, most of the time other tech youtubers do do other types of tests, people in those professions/hobbies yell at them for not doing a hard enough test or not doing the test right or not doing something that mirrors their exact specific workflow. People get very "stick to what you know", which to UA-camrs is video editing. So it's understandable that those are the tests they focus on. Why is no one asking why aren't there more software developer or data science or 3D Graphics UA-camrs running these tests themselves?
@@VMYeahVN They probably are, but aren’t making videos about them very quickly or at all. It’s logical that people that use these computers to make videos are the first to actually make videos about them.
@@VMYeahVN speaking in terms of my interests - there is plenty of people testing PCs for 3D computer graphics purposes, I can get all the GPU or CPU benchmarks and info I need from UA-cam. It’s specifically people testing macs for 3D where it’s lacking, and that’s largely because historically there has been little or no support for the GPUs Macs are using (no Nvidia on Mac).
The industry is in a transition period now where suddenly with these Apple GPUs will make it viable.
But it’s very niche at the moment (literally these are the first computers with the new GPU, and software isn’t yet supporting them for a few months at least) and just not that many people using Macs for 3D.
Thanks for this Snazzy. It answered a lot of my questions. My 16 inch MacBook Pro arrived today and so far I’ve been really impressed coming from a 2015 13 inch MacBook Pro. No thermal throttling and noisy fans.
Menu Bar in full screen is an optional setting in Monterey for all Macs
Yeah. It's a new option you can enable now so you can have the menubar always visible at all times if you want. I just want to know what happens if you turn on the other option. "Automatically hide menu bar on desktop."
Quinn: "Here's a nonstandard object for comparison" lmao
Needs a banana of course lol
even that guitar pick is gigantic haha mine are like 1.5/3 of that
Typical American lol
lol american so dumb
@@alexfvcruz 1.5 out of 3? That’s a peculiar way of writing 1 in 2.
Omg thank you for actually looking at several different use case, looking forward to that video :)
thank you for diving deep into the notch, you're the first one i've seen who went beyond "it moves behind the notch" and actually went into experimenting with the left menu items and the right menu icons and how they would interact when the bar was full. thanks for also covering the things i never thought to wonder, like the cursor behaviour for the rounded corners, and charing from all the ports.
i was really excited when they said anodised keyboard, i thought finally a company would make keys that could withstand wear and tear and not get shiny (i still love the glass trackpad for its material and not looking worn years later). but it seems like the keys themselves are still plastic and it's only the well that's anodised. not that anodising would be 100% resilient but i was wondering if it'd be (and also a grainier texture, perhaps).
I've been awake for the last 3 days waiting for your review
and you did't disappoint me opening the back lid first
0:51 whitebalance instantly changes
Big oof. Mildly jarring but not the end of the world at least.
I bet is was done in Premiere lol
I knew someone would notice too!
Happened last video too towards the end!
@@tomroutledge2868 I wonder if Quinn's editor is trying to send us all a message. Dude, mess up colors again if he's holding you hostage!
The one reason I’d want to tuck a tiny SD card in the slot is so the computer can have a time machine backup on board. I’d back up my user drive to iCloud, but for the rest, I’d use the tiny SD card. I don’t really care about speed in that case. It’s still going to be faster than restoring TimeMachine over the network. I did that the other day and it took a day and a half.
nice video, besides your LUT's going crazy at 0:51, awesome
I was waiting for someone to test the audio jack with some Huh Duh Six Hungeos.
By old mate Senn….
That GoodTimesWithScar music intro always gets me ^^
Let’s do iiiiiiiiiiiiiit
On Twitter I've asked how well this laptop works with other professional apps, and I'm happy there is a full review that will cover the subject.
And BTW, this one is a nice video too, very different from ALL the others out there!
I love how objective and nerdy the SnazyLabs reviews are (and also not only focusing on benchmarks and videos editing)
You’re a great presenter Quinn! I really appreciate your transitions between different subjects - they always have a logical progression, but it also seems smooth and effortless.
Thanks!!
The interaction with the menu bar is something developers have to put in their code, there’s documentation now. Also, personally I like using full screen as a “focus mode”, so I like the menu bar not being there, but I want it there in non-fullscreen.
You answered all questions in amazing depth … hats off to u !! Love it
Excellent video, thank you and looking forward to your upcoming videos too!
This is probably the only tech channel that I watch with a smile ! So much positive energy !
thank you for making the effort to get some info on how these perform NOT editing videos. as a product designer, im in a niche field that is made up of mostly pc users due to software, but as a mac user, I get by. seeing how the 3D modelers and VFX artists take advantage of the hardware is going to helpful. this is something ive been trying find to make right choice on which chip to buy.
Easy. The biggest you can get, ofc. That's 5000€ please. No, you don't need 8TB of SSD. I have *one* PC with 7TB SSD (different gens), 16 cores/32threads (R9-3950X), some decent graphics and 128GB of RAM. That thing is a monster regarding MT tasks, database and/or virtualization. Profits from parallelaccess via many PCIE lanes. So... only if you want to do something similar... 2TB of SSD should do.
You way of presenting any product/detail/idea, in any videos. It is just awesome
Favorite tech hang on the UA-cams. Always love these videos.
I've started editing when they were still using film, develop it, save a low res version on a tape and you had to ingest it in Final Cut Pro 5. Seeing this little thing eat 8k footage for breakfast is just mind blowing...
Strange
21:23 Legends say Rob is still saying "Keyboard feel, keyboard feel"
Lmao
awesome video, i always look forward to your coverages of stuff because you always do a great job of explaining why things are weird or not. can’t wait for the review!
Can't wait for the industry review as I'm in the analytics/ML space. Great Job, as always.
thank god you're actually doing benchmarks that many of us will find relevant. I'm sooooo tired of seeing video render performance. I never have and never will edit videos. I'm a developer, I develop on mac and that's the performance i care about
Is it just me or there is a weird tint shift at 0:51
I saw it too
nope white balance changed lol
Now that's the true detailed review. Things like charging, Thunderbolt throughput, headphones - thank you very much for the details. First video I saw on this channel and I subscribed after first 7 minutes of the video.
Thank you. You're the best YT reviewer for thorough information.
It’s been a thing in macos for a long time that menu applets on the right get hidden by menu options on the left when there’s too many.
Exactly. The notch may make this more common but it’s been a design “feature” for 20 years. 🙄
"It's a feature not a bug"
jup, in more character rich laguages it‘s quite common. Just switch to finder to see the rest
@@outofahat9363 They specifically added code to do it so yeah.
I just learned this from John Siracusa yesterday. Pretty insane and can't believe that's the solution. Apple needs to Sherlock Bartender and just fix the whole issue.
You can leave the menu bar visible in full screen mode, its an option in settings!! Default is turned off.
The area of the notch is likely defined as a "safe area" in macOS, very similarly to how iOS does it. Since menus are just standard system UI, the safe area is already baked into the AppKit APIs. However, since menu bar apps are distinct apps, its very likely that developers will need to update to recognize the new "safe area." Hence why iStat menus can disappear behind the notch, while menu bar items will wrap around the notch.
I don't expect this to be an issue for very long. The notch is brand new to macOS! On top of that, menu bar apps need a proper overhaul in macOS. They've always kind of been like a hack. macOS needs a system for managing menu bar apps. I would expect a collapsible list icon to be added to the menu bar very soon to Monterey.
2012 was the last macbook pro i bought... apple finally remembered what pro means - and what pros find useful. great vids. ty
Excellent review you've made me even more excited and confirmed my decision to go M1MAX. Looking forward to my MBP M1 MAX 64GB 8Tb when it arrives mid Nov.
I am curious if a music producer could test it in a DAW like Ableton (not native). How is the latency with gear and how does it handle big libraries or heavy VST plugins? Great video!
19:44 because a "full screen" experience also means "no distractions", and a menu bar is a distraction...
They did everything right.
Would you want VLC to show the menu constantly? Even when you are watching a movie fullscreen?
Best review I’ve seen so far. Congratulations for getting end user’s questions answered. So professional and effective! ❤️
was waiting for your first MacBook Pro video!
The two aspect ratios in this video were odd
Edit: With that said, I'm excited for your review about performance outside of video editing.
Colour grading change at 0:52? ;)
One thing I love about your video, outside of the content is the wonderful color grading, lighting and minimalistic quality of the visuals. Such a rest for my eyes 💆🏻
I like this free form video style, haven't seen much like this on your channel before. The audio is sounding a bit echoey to me, sorry if you've addressed this in another video already! great content as always.
17:31 So Quinn finally discovered that the macOS "'system tray"' has always been broken (when you don't use bartender)… the notch now only makes it worse.
Please compare the speakers on the 14 and 16 inch models. As far as i can recall in the keynote, they kinda emphasize the 14 not having the same true 6 speaker system like the 16” model.if there is any substanstial difference in real world testing
This is the funniest, most in depth, most entertaining and informative first Impressions I have ever seen. Subbed
Thanks, and welcome!
One of the few videos told me something new! Great stuff. Particularly interested in the Machine Learning / Software Engineering workflows that you have coming up!
Thanks!
All those weirdness will slowly disappear in the coming months where the apps get optimized for this machine... I guess that in 6 months the performance will be amazing and won't be any weirdness...
Great approach you are choosing for this analysis...
Hasta luego Quinn!
Saludos!
@@snazzy Buenos días, señor Quinn. Cómo estás?
Curious how iStatMenus looks when you change the display to "More Space" scaling. Also worried the menu bar will look insane in 'More Space' because it can't get thinner due to the notch...
I went and checked one out at an Apple Store today, didn’t have iStatMenus but I can confirm that with “More Space” display scaling the menu bar stays the same height while all the items in it get smaller. Looks a bit strange but makes sense given the notch.
Thank you for the more in-depth discussion of the notch and its behavior with software.
Man! Now this is a super nice review! I love you actually listen back to your audience and answer to real questions of real people! Everybody else just reads the specs and makes benchmarks. You, on the other side, just answer our “mere mortal” questions! Thanks man! Keep this up please!
The beard suits you man!
got to ask. Was that a 14" or 16" MacBook Pro used in that review and what was the screen size?
I'm wondering if the 16" model would have the same issues with the menu bar due to its much bigger screen size and resolution. I always run at max res (more space option)
Also, it appears you need 2tb or higher storage to get the higher speed SSD
It was the 16in with M1 Max 64GB
@@jkitsme1508 It must be must be set to a lower resolution. Then again I never use the default resolution on MacBook Pros and always find myself going for more space.
Great initial review. I just ordered the 14" to replace my 2019 16" MacBook. I did upgrade to the 10 core cpu.
This was a great video that answered a lot of questions I had about the notch and headphone jack!
I would love to find out how this does 3D modelling in SketchUp and rendering in Vray so I'm really looking forward to at least see some 3D modelling/rendering tests! :D
Cinebench R23 please.
Well this one gone be my evening watch. Was waiting for your opinion.
One of my favourite channel for apple tech videos. Amazing review
Thanks so much!!
Best thumbnail I’ve seen in a while. Excellent work snazzy labs!
Thank you!
Do you think that these chips could eventually have a high performance mode where they chew more power but output a crap ton of performance? I think that since they use less power and therefore run cooler; they could get OverVolted.
They already do! You just have to go into the battery section of System Preferences and change the energy mode from automatic to high power while it’s both plugged into the wall, and on battery.
@@ardentvibe6917 Only on the 16 inch version though if i remember correctly.
@@MADDGAMMER Yes and only with the Max chip too, I think.
@@binkey3374 well, I happened to have bought that exact variation, so I definitely cannot confirm. Haha.
Damn that notch is janky. I was skeptical and curious about the sofware solutions they had for it and really hoped the "appled" it. But no that's some A level jankiness. I hope they fix that with future versions of MacOS
Edit: The rest of it is amazing though.
the app menus taking over the right side menus are not new to this mac, it happens on all macs. the easiest way to do this is by setting a mac to a really low resolution or connecting a really old monitor to it. I would say istat probably needs an update for the new macs to handle it properly. any yes apple could help with updating
Saludos Quinn. Great video on these new MacBooks. I am excited for your next set of videos about these. What'll you be coming out with?
Congrats on 1 mil!
Thanks for doing the light tear down - curious if the 16” has significantly better thermals than the 14” with the M1 Pro.
Would also love to see a music production test with high voice count synths / virtual instruments :)
Not going to lie I’ve seen hours of reviews on these computers. Even though I bought it a week ago Haha. It will be my first Mac ever!
Dang, great time to jump into MacOS! Congrats!
Same first time owning a mac
You’re gonna love it
Macs have some annoying quirks, but once you learn how to change some options around you’ll realize the reliability and consistency is so much better and worth it.
@@harrison2899 true. Even my Mom and Dad have not shifted from apple ever since they first bought iPhones and Macbooks because they are uncomplicated, secure, and last a long time. Sure, user has less control, but lots of people just want something that works and will continue to work for a long time. My mom still uses her iPhone 5 as a backup phone.
I can't believe I just found your channel. You're so interesting to watch!
Congrats on 1M subs man. Love your reviews and tech knowledge!
Great work, Quinn! Just finished watching the vid. Can’t wait to see all the reviews from others. That notch is gonna need some software fixes for the menu apps. It’s been 11 years for my 2010 MacBook Pro and now I’m seriously gonna upgrade to the M1 Pro (I don’t need the Max for my uses). This vid helped me make an informed decision for my future purchase. Thanks for sharing!
I am eating and drinking.
must be done to sustain life. nice work.
@@snazzy I ate brick dust and drank paint.
I feel unsustained.
The best and actual consumer review! Thanks a lot for these nice videos! I love the `20 apps` video too.
Great camera work Quinn. The M1 Max thermal pad is definitely larger than the Pro @4:06 & 5:30. Really good clarity and lighting.
The way software interacts with the notch is how I would expect a Windows machine to deal with it. Apple is supposed to be the company that puts more effort into the user experience. Very weird and kinda worrying.
Windows have an overflow section on the taskbar that have existed for decades. So hell no, you shouldn't expect this on Windows.
Please don’t worry
Buy a chromebook
I think it's bugged currently, there's supposed to be something to deal with menu bar items when they would otherwise go under the notch.
suggestion: also do the testing for engineering software thats windows only. most mainstream engineering software still only available in windows, im a geotechnical engineer and plaxis is really heavy on your pc if you dont simplify your design i want to see how new macbook fare against that and also dont forget autocad
yes, this
I love that the first thing you do is open them up! Super cool!
the davinci upgrades are nice. I also love how steam now supports ARM so most games you usually see on Windows now work on these machines...however a portal is needed for the good/popular games. I am going to wait for the Mac Mini with this same internals as I already have good monitors for editing/color grading as well as gaming and a plethora of thunderbolt accessories. But Apple did a damn good job on this thing. Great review Snazzy!
I’d be interested in some tests with crossover and parallels to see how it performs with windows emulation.
I think there was some channel that did do this but with games primarily.
But why is he complaining about the menue bar not staying in full screen when he didn't even enable this behavior in settings
Always enjoying your videos... you're one of few around here that has on the sack... you say things as they are... and you don't right what's wrong. Respect,
Using Scar super fast build mode song for the intro is a smart move
I actually would like to know how does it handle 3D modeling, how does some windows programs run thru parallels like solidworks, catia, etc. I’m an engineer and use an mbp 2020 with an i7, so, this engineering stuff actually makes me very curious.
I think Apple basically has to pull a Sherlock on Bartender at this point. The notch behaviour is just too weird.
Although it's worth noting that menu bar items eating up your icons on the right isn't entirely new, cause I had run into it in the past on smaller displays with my display density low. It'll now just be much more common with the notch.
Your review is pretty technical and insightful .. unlike other you tubers amateur reviews
Very nice. Wake me up when the refresh to the 27” iMac’s come out.