3 Knee Arthritis Supplements BETTER than Glucosamine!
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In this episode, Farnham's leading over-50's physiotherapist, Will Harlow, reveals 3 supplements that might be BETTER for knee arthritis and knee pain than glucosamine.
You'll learn which supplements have been proven to reduce inflammation and pain for knee arthritis sufferers based on the scientific evidence.
Always check with your GP before starting ANY new supplement. The supplements recommended in this video are NOT suitable for all.
If you're suffering from nagging knee pain that hurts in the morning and stops you from walking as far as you'd like, you can take our free knee pain guide - which will give you 5 expert tips to put a stop to knee pain at home - by visiting here: ht-physio.co.uk/knee-pain-gui...
If you're over-50 with a painful problem in the Farnham, Surrey area, you can learn more about how Will Harlow and HT Physio can help you overcome a painful problem here: ht-physio.co.uk/
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Turmeric with black pepper, omega 3 and boron are the the supplements mentioned in this pod cast.
Thanks Doc
Thanks for saving time❤
boron, have never heard of that one! I take MSM, Turmeric (with black Peter and ginger), Boswellia serrata and undenatured Collagen type 2. it has worked really well for me with the pain etc. But I think I will add the boron and see what happens! Currently struggling awaiting a hip replacement, so really struggling with the ageing joints trying to compensate for that!
Thanks, i clicked add to watch later, a playlist that ive never watched ever not even once
How old are you
@@suecharnock9369 what's borna
What an excellent video. No hype, no repetitive build up. Just plain speaking with useful information. Thanks! We all hate videos that take 90% of their time hyping a solution and only the last 10% do they start talking about a solution and then you find out it was a commercial... not really informative.
Really, has anyone ever gone to see their doctor to check a supplement? I can't even get to see mine for serious medical conditions.
Doctors dont want us to know what is good about these supplements.
I think he’s just covering his own butt
Drs in my experience never offer supplements, so he may be a homeopathic physiatrist or therapist. And anyone who can't get to see their doctor should get a different doctor if circumstances permit
Even when you do the Dr will say "I don't know anything about that".
😂
I use Raw Turmeric with Black pepper and powdered Mushrooms added to water in. I also eat Sardines in Olive oil and/or Tomato sauce.
One very important thing to note with turmeric is that it has quite strong blood thinning properties. I found this out after 'shaking hands' with a Stanley Knife and the hospital had a bit of a struggle stemming the flow. Fortunately, one of the Indian Doctors questioned me about any supplements I was taking and immediately spotted the culprit. I still take turmeric [it is very effective for me, particularly knees] but those folks already on blood thinners or who are going in for an operation must discuss matters with their Doctor before starting it's use. I have had it added to my notes at the GPs and at the 2 hospitals I regularly attend. Be prepared for a blank stare from many Doctors, as they will not be aware of this property, but a good pharmacist should have a better awareness of this potential problem.
Omega 3 can do the same.
Thanks for giving us the heads up
Next time be extra careful " shaking your hands with your pal "
Stay safe
Was Salaam
Helpful and informative video for me who has just started to get knee pain in my 60s. Thank you
Your videos have been a godsend! Great information as always
You're amazing! This is all (more) great information Will. Thank you!
Omega 3 I do take and I do feel it when I wait to get more of it.
I feel the lack of it.
Thank you for all this wisdom about having better health.
Many thanks go to you.
Boswellia Serrata extract is also often used to relieve knee OA pain and swelling. Like curcumin it is not very absorbable and so it is best to combine it with piperine (Black pepper) like curcumin or use a formula that is known to be highly bioavailable like ApresFlex. You should make sure to look into the safety of any herbal supplement, tolerable upper limits, etc., and the quality of whatever brand you choose.
If the government doesn't approve, that means it's great!
I like the information I get from your very well put together videos from your experience thanks a lot much appreciated ❤
I had arthritis in one knee. Both knees made cracking sounds. I knew it was only a matter of time for the other knee to blow. I used Bromelain. Working for me. Cracking noises in both knees gone .(Occasional crack in knee yet to blow). Both knees feel good.
I agree with your assessment of glucosamine. I had taken glucosamine and chondroitin for years for my arthritic knee. I was never sure whether it actually helped. Then I ran out of it and kept forgetting to buy more and went for several months without it. I did not find my knee any worse without it. So in my little study with n=1 glucosamine and chondroitin did not help arthritis.
what about you go on fasting,and go for seamoss as Dr.sebi says.
Glucosamine chondroitin worked for me. For about 2 weeks
Meloxicam was miraculous for my knee OA. For about two months. 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂👏🏽👏🏽
@@cynthiagonzalez658glucosamine helped me but caused lot of weight gain. Meloxicam is dangerous the doctor had me only take for 30days. The side affects are serious.
Thank you so much for this presentation !!!!
I do squats and leg presses a lot and I take fish oil, collagen, calcium, turmeric, and glucosamine for protecting my joints. I don't know what boron is but will look into it.
Hi,good morning. I am from Mauritius
Am new to your channel. I am suffering from knee arthritis some three yeas back.Glad I came with your videos.I'll put them in practice and let you know .Thank you.
I had awfully painful arthritis in my hip and was taking NSAIDs. A wonderful chemist recommended curcumin as an alternative and I want to give her a medal. It has changed my life.
Same as Turmeric, both anti inflammatory.Turmeric is the plant and Curcumine is the extract❤
I´m now for 2 weeks on anti inflamitory meds....does anyone know, if i can start with the natural product intake, or is it not working together well,
Thanks a lot!!!❤
I’ve not come across a vlog that explains the benefits of taking turmeric, omega 3 and boron quite as well as this - outstanding! I have stage 4 osteoarthritis in both knees and have been on medicated pain killers for a number of years. I have reached the stage that alternative supplements need to be considered and I am somewhat disappointed that my own doctor hasn’t discussed supplements with me. I am about to start taking turmeric and I hope that it will provide real benefits without the side effects that taking clinical medication over a prolonged period can have. Thank you once again.
If you haven't already, research turmeric/ginger shots. A little more complicated than just taking a pill but it has the added benefit of just feeling natural. I have a juicer so I make my own, usually a week's worth at a time. Good luck!
I have used turmeric with black pepper for 3 years now and almost immediately managed to stop the voltarol I had been taking for years.
Thank you so much for your information Doc❤
Had an old Labrador years ago that was having trouble walking, very slow movement, I gave him glucosamine and after a week he really picked up speed and seemed himself again. I put one in his food every day.
I am still dancing and riding my ebikes and motorcycles on my 73rd Orbit around the Sun. Lessons from my own body have confirmed: Hydration along side low key sugar, alcohol, & carbs have made the most difference for me. 🏊🚣⛵🎶🌠 ... Experimenting w the Keto Diet while recording my diy glucose readings was among the biggest health related lessons of my lifetime. Yes to suppliments too. ... P.S. ... Lots of carbs were ok when I was younger, burning them off with athletic aerobic work cycles. Then my 3.5 months of a swollen knee led to the above insights about Carbs and the Keto Universe Health Option that can tackle "Insulin Resistance".
At what age did you start the keto diet and did it help with your knees?
@@smmds from CaptBill ... I first experimented via dropping all the grains (glutens) from my diet at about age 70, when I was handicapped by three months of my swollen knee. That experiment made a dramatic difference in Three DAYS. I then actualized burning fat for fuel a few months later. I had to fast for 3 days on proper electrolytes awareness to eventually confirm ketones in my blood flow system. I now believe the Keto Diet is a great way to clean up fatty livers, and inflammation issues.
I have found listening to this so helpful and informative and added to that you are not from "across the pond"!I shall look into these particular supplements as I am currently experiencing a crippling attack of knee arthritis (2 weeks). GP physio said to do certain exercises which made it worse. Rest and Paracetamol and 10% Ibugel at the moment. I would like to avoid knee replacement replacement if possible. I am 76, on Apixaban, Losartan, 1.25mg beta blocker and Adcal. Have been on Glucosamine for years and thought it was helping, but isn't now obviously.
Very interesting, we used glucosamine and chondroitin for a while and had no relief so your research backs this up. Will work through your suggestions and recommendations. Thank you.
Thank You co much for the concise, helpful, information ,which No MD has ever given me.
Very nice and comprehensive research information regarding supplements for arthritis Thank you doctor
Great information, thank you so much
Thank you very good information
Doc you are the best in exercise and supplements for joint pain. Thank you. From Trinidad andvTobago
Simple and informative
Really helpful and interesting 😊
Thank you, very informative, didn't realize about boron,
Thank you so much for all your information. I am a 71 year old female with a torn meniscus. Life is miserable! You are a mine of information and I am most grateful. Thank you!
Thanks s much f more info about these suppls.God blss , keep safe.
Hope you are feeling much better
You are very sweet, thank you. I am investigating stem cell treatment. Most effective I hear...
How are you feeling? I am 58 with torn meniscus. I did PRP injections. It helped but such a slow healing process...then I reinjured going down the stairs. So frustrating. Hope you are doing well.
im over 50’s…glad i found you Mr .😘
i taking pain reliever and B and D Vitamin( but i requested that to my Doctor after my own research).
have to really lose weights…cause.being overweight also the reasons of joint paints and inflammation.
Excellent video, just what I needed
Your videos are full of useful information and I follow your channel. I have a question which I hope your can provide some advise: How can you reduce the size of large dorsal metatarsal head osteophytes without surgery, if possible?
Thank you. Most helpful, but what dosage is best. There are so many out there.
Thanks for the helpful video.
I must state that glycosamine has been revolutionary for me.
My knees were damaged when I was hit by a drunk driver while I was bicycling back in 1990.
For 30 years I suffered knee pain. I was eventually diagnosed with arthritis.
By a stroke of luck, I encountered somebody in my line of work that had suffered a terrible list of injuries from a catastrophic car crash and she was the person who educated me on the benefits of glucosamine.
Within three days of starting the supplement I noticed a major change in my knee pain. It was gone.
I am a backpacker. I hiked through the pain for years. With glucosamine I no longer have to hike through pain.
Just the same, I am interested in those other supplements. I already take turmeric periodically but it's good to know that I have to up the dosage. I already knew about the black pepper.
Hi. I am in a similar situation, recently been diagnosed. I've been wondering if I should stop travelling altogether. Your post seems to suggest it is still possible for people with this ailment to travel.
I had used glucosamine for 20-25 years and had the best of luck with it until ONE day it seemed to turn on me almost overnight!!! I started to get bad swelling with bad pain in my joints. I think I developed an intolerance to shell fish from it because that's where its sourced. Just Wanted to let you know.
@@tmo.48
Wow, that is fascinating. But I'm also sorry you went through that ordeal.
I think I'll be okay. I grew up near the ocean and have had plenty of seafood and haven't built up an intolerance to it. It would save me money if I built up an intolerance to lobster, but that is not the story.
I hope I'm not getting a bunch of pollutants that accumulate in fish. I don't eat a lot of fish because they collect things like dioxin, mercury, lead and PCBs in their fat cells. I stick to the shellfish, which accumulate less than, say, tuna or swordfish.
Hi what supplements are you taking?
@revathik9225 well why don't you start a fasting,and use seamoss as dr.sebi adviced
I tried tones of glucosamine and chondroitin, and it did NOTHING for my OA hip and ankle (past injury.) Then I started taking large doses of D3 in early 2020. (Something about a virus? 😉 ) I was pleasantly surprised when, a month+ later, I woke up to find my chronic hip pain gone, along with ankle, back, and deep leg aches and pains. Turns out that immune cells produce less inflammatory agents when 25-D levels get up around 50~60 ng. Reduced inflammation gives the joint a chance to partially heal which, in turn, reduces wear and tear and inflammation. 3 years later, my joints still feel 20+ years younger.
As for Omega 3, I just eat one or two salmon burgers a day. I started doing this more recently, and it seems to have reduced BP substantially. Very nice!
Hi Will
Thx for your wonderful videos. May i know whats ur take on Type 2 collagen ? And if good , how best to take ?
Thanks for sharing.👍💪🏻
Thanks for this interesting video. I'll be buying these 3 items.
Thank you for sharing this information 🙏🙏💕
You're very welcome!
Great advice
Great tips. Thank u so much
Thanks for that information Will. Is knee arthritis equivalent to hip arthritis in regards to treatment? In other words, will my hips benefit from your advice?
Great info will😊
thank you for this clear and concise information . best wishes
You are welcome!
Quality is very important. Thank you, Doctor!
True!
Thanks v.v. informative with regards
Thanks for the wonderful information on Boron.
Dr. Harlow, I love all of your videos. They are very easy, useful and has helped me immensely.
Thanks.useful is egg plant good for arthritis have turmeric with peper everyday thanks again God bless
I take all three for knee inflamation and they do work,, especially the boron. I went off the boron for awhile to see if I noticed a change and I definitely did!
Where did you get Boron and how you take it please 🙏
I would like to try boron. How much should I take? Tia
Thanks Doctor for your very very explanative video on such an important subject .Really it will be very useful to every person suffering from arthritis. Thank you once again.
My pleasure!
Hi, i´m new here....thanks for this interesting video....
For more than 20years i suffer from jointpain, kniearthritis, neck and lower backpain, i tried several natural remedies, but didn´t helped me....
I want to learn from you more, hoping i could learn to live without so much pain, Thank you again for the incredible work you do!!
i´m a new subscriber....greetz, ❤ Conny from Belgium
Mr. Will, thank you for such an impressive and sensible presentation of the 3 knee arthritis supplements I love it and I would like your script of the talk if you can let me have the link to it.
Thanks for the kind words! I don't have a script, I just talk to the camera :)
@johnoh767 In the video description there is a transcript of his presentation.
@@jgpbowman Thank you, can you show me the link please.
@johnoh767
On the video, below the title tap on the word "more." That will take you to the Description. Then scroll down until you see the word "Transcript." Tap on the "show Transcript." And there it is! 😊
i am already taking turmer8c curcumin with black pepper, just started recently.
Question though, is it turmeric or omega 3 or boron or a combi of 2 or all 3?
I gave up eating nightshades (potatoes and tomatoes) and grains, and my arthritis pain went away. It's been three years!
What type of arthritis did you have?
what about seamoss as Dr.sebi says.
Ditto, plus I went keto carnivore intermittent fasting and my pains are now only intermittent. Got knee OA and then the pain migrated around everywhere. Dic wanted me to do knee replacement 10 years ago 😂
Also Aubergine , Chili, Paprika and many more also in fruits. And Tabak , anyhow better don’t smoke . Everyone can find out more about it online. The nightshade plants usually also promote histamine and therefore trigger allergies. Of course, it is difficult to avoid all of these foods. It can work if you make sure to only have one vegetable or fruit of this type on your plate. So no “ratatouille” , tomatoes with paprika and potatoes, you already have three on your plate.
What about bone spurs does anything help? Thanks for sharing this video
Thank you. I looked up all the foods that have Boron in them and I eat most them all the time. I’ll look into stepping up eating more of them.
Thank you so very much!
I have used DMSO since 1997 and with much success. MSM is a second generation type originating from DMSO. I use 99% pure DMSO. Dimethyl Sulfoxide! Rimso50 is the only FDA allowed type. It's 50% only. Of coarse Rimso-50 is only used for Interstitial Blastitis which is inflammation of the bladder. I've used DMSO for torn Miniscus, swelling in fingers, shoulder pain, and unspecified allergic reactions (I believe it was from allergic reaction to an antibiotic) .... I've treated elderly folks' shoulders and knees also. This is an incredible substance! The military used it for traumatic head injuries in some cases, when DMSO could be introduced into the inner skull areas to help stop, prevent, or/and reduce inflammation in the brain. FDA has balked at allowing DMSO approval since the 1960's. Mainly because Big Pharmaceutical Corporations cannot get a patent on DMSO, therefore they cannot make big money on it!
Interesting! Thanks for sharing
@HT-Physio So do u take the glucosamine all at once in the morning Or space it out throughout the day?
Can you explain how you use it?
I use DMSO regularly.
Tumeric with black pepper, early morning, in medium hot water helps a lot. Omega 3 is found in Flax seeds. I eat flax seeds in the form of ladoo.
I started noticing that my knee joints were starting to get a bit stiff. I started to increase my intake of Omega 3 in my diet (including an Omega 3 Cod Liver Oil supplement) and within weeks it was noticeable how much better my knees were feeling & working.
Which ones did you get ? Kindly send links please.
i love u daddy
That doesn't work for me either, but I keep taking it for other things..
try icing and a heating pad after
If you don’t like fish burps skip the fish and go to the plant that gives the fish oil omega 3----algae oil. I can take that one. I make my own turmeric capsules with black pepper. Boron is in my multi and my food. I think apples have boron.
Thanks doctor 4 ur info
Thank you for improving our quality of life! You have the best videos. 💖
So pleased to hear you like them!
Thank you so much
Turmeric and glucosamine works fine for me. Ibuprofen you can’t take too long it can damage your liver.
Do you do any video regarding hand/fingers arthritis?
What dosages do you recommend for turmeric and Omega 3?
Thank you for this information. I'm relatively new to the knee osteoarthritis world, really starting to become painful in the past couple of years. I seek out natural remedies first, and have tried glucosamine with no success. I do take omega-3 and turmeric, but have not heard of boron as a supplement. I will give that a try!
Hi Will. Thanks for the information. I have some omega 3's, I didn't think to check with my G.P -she is awesome- I shall do this week & re the BORON as well very interesting. My copy of your book arrived from AUS AMAZON today 🎉 yay! I look forward to checking it out in the next couple of days. I'm pleased to hear you refer to the trials & to the fact that sometimes the most invested , funds these trials. _sneaky_. So . Cheers
Thanks for this video I use omega 3 shall now use tumeric an boron also
Super cool information. Additionally Your English is easy to understand. It is not my native language. Thank you.❤
THANK YOU!
Thank You.
I have bone on bone knee ailment. I went from taking 2 prescription pain killers daily to zero with no pain after taking brewers yeast for a couple of months. It's not a cure, but I have no pain anymore.
Interesting thoughts on supplements.
Glad this included spelling since it sounded like Omika3. But the more he said it the closer it sounded like Omega
Thanks mate...I've only been doing them for 2 days but your knee exercises have already made a big difference in my daily life😊
thank you and I will try the Borom
Great video
my knees made loud creaking noise ...i take glucosamine ...dont creak anymore....i now have tumeric too..neck pain eased now also
Thanks for mentioning the supplements. Can you suggest certain brand names for the Omega 3 fish oil supplements according to specifications that you were referring to?
The Magic for me, having gone from being 23 stones in weight, unable to get out my Car, on 2 occasions crawling from the car, in a terrible condition. Was the simplest of all, I lost weight, lots of weight, I was nearly 14 stones, through I have put on some weight now, I can walk 15 kilometres , my skin tags shrank, my libido has become far better, so many other benefits to detail .😊
I was diagnosed with knee OA. I enjoy cycling an usually ride "long distances" 70 to 100 mile rides. I have been wondering if riding is good for the knee joint?
How many MGs of these vitamins do we need??
Thanks for the info Will! It's good to see a nice looking healthy man(or woman), nice seeing them speaking of health, and they are not 60 pounds overweight. Do as we preach... Thanks again. Being healthy at 72 takes a lot of educating oneself. But, it is all worth it. Lost 68 pounds last few years eating well, and taking good supplements.
I find magnesium gel helps with my arthritic knee. White oil containing turpentine also helps.
Just remember that boron also has toxicity associated with it, which is dose dependent.
Great video. Need to adjust the Mic input gain, your voice sometimes gets distorted.
I have taken omega 3 supplement with a boron sup. Brilliant improvement.
I would also suggest watching the muscle building exercises that Will demonstrates.
Watch the exercise vids first. Then try them while watching- so you avoid the movement errors.
Last avoid eating high sugar foods and drinks and alcohol- which I found generated more inflation pain.
Great videos! I have been taking Fish oil for many years, long before I got arthritis, and continue to do so. I tried turmeric with curcumin and bioprene but it made my acid reflux much worse. I stopped that one. I am currently on a triple joint pill that has collagen, hyaluronic acid and 5 mg of boron. I’m thinking of stopping that one when I run out and just taking 5 mg. of boron. The only reason is cost. Do you think I should give up on the collagen and hyaluronic acid? I also use bovine collagen powder every day.
Damn collagen never worked for me. Nothing worked for me except fasting and carnivore diet. If I have pains, Tylenol or naproxen.
You need type ll collegen, chicken is best then fish.Also it is not an instant fix sometimes a couple of months or more to see results.
@@georgetteparsons4474
Did that. No go
I live in a country where you can get the turmeric root so I scrub it and blend with black pepper it doesn’t taste to good and it stains your hands and work tops but I take a shot glass everyday and it does help I would like to know if I should be taking more than a shot glass?
The supplement that helps most to reduce pain and improve mobility in my arthritic knees is one pill a day containing undenatured collagen type II (aka UC-II) - 40 mg, Boron as boron glycinate - 5 mg, and Hyaluronic acid as sodium hyaluronate - 3.3 mg.
I have tried Turmeric with piperine (black pepper) and Omega-3 supplements, but they upset my stomach a lot.
Recently, I started taking a supplement containing hydrolyzed collagen peptides to improve the condition of my skin, hair, and nails, which seemed to be having trouble adjusting to the arid desert environment when I relocated from the Alabama Gulf coast to southern Arizona. I have been slathering on moisturizing lotions and sunscreen to protect my skin, but the improvement has been small.
After taking the collagen peptide supplement for a couple of weeks, not only did my skin, hair, and nails improve noticeably, but to my surprise there also seemed to be some improvement in my knee pain and mobility in addition to that provided by the supplement I discussed above.
It is too early to tell if this recent improvement is just a natural variation in my knee pain and mobility, or due to the hydrolyzed collagen peptides. Since the hydrolyzed collagen peptides supplement is producing an improvement in my skin, hair, and nails, I will continue to take it whether or not it continues to improve my knee pain and mobility.
This supplement is a powder, and the recommended serving of 2 heaping tablespoons contains 3 g of hydrolyzed collagen peptides. The recommended dosage is 3 servings per day, for a total of 9 g of hydrolyzed collagen peptides per day.
I have a friend who has knee arthritis from a car crash injury, who swears by gelatine (another source of collagen) - just a spoonful a day, stirred into water. I tried it for a month or so and it did nothing for me (at that stage, I only had finger arthritis) so I stopped. However, it's cheap and readily available, so it could be worth a try for many people.
@@maradall According to Healthline, collagen supplements are mostly made of a completely hydrolyzed form of collagen called collagen peptides, and these are easier to digest than gelatin, which is made of partially hydrolyzed collagen. Thus, gelatin is easier to digest than pure collagen, but collagen peptides are easier to digest than gelatin.
Also, collagen peptides dissolve in both hot and cold water. In contrast, most forms of gelatin only dissolve in hot water.
If one is able to digest gelatin, then like hydrolyzed collagen peptides, it may improve skin, joint, gut, and bone health.
@@maradall I just looked up the prices at my local Walmart, and computed the price per gram of gelatin vs hydrolyzed collagen peptides:
At my local Walmart:
Great Value Gelatin: 7.57 cents/g (based on $2.18 for 16 servings @ 1.8 g per serving)
Zammex Hydrolyzed Collagen Peptides: 5.98 cents/g (based on $17.95 for 30 servings @ 10 g per serving)
In this case, hydrolyzed collagen peptides are lower in cost per unit mass than gelatin.
Appreciate your comments. What is the name of the hydrolyzed collagen peptides supplement you're taking please..? Edit: and the first supplement you mentioned too, what is that called?
Thankyou.
@@eternity8811 I was taking Metamucil Fiber + Collagen, but 3 servings per day of that was too much fiber for my system. I switched to Zammex Hydrolyzed Collagen Peptides which provides 10 g of collagen peptides per serving, and 1 serving of that per day is easier on my digestive system.
The other supplement I mentioned is Kirkland Triple Action Joint Health.
Try turmeric & Borun for knee pain. You should notice a difference in two weeks
how much boron a day? thanks.
I helped my knees a lot by taking boron and moringa and rubbing castor oil into them .
Did u use warm castor oil?
Would like to hear from subscribers on here which Boron supplements they use and have found increased benefits?
Please provide links where you purchased yours from?
Thank you
Very informative and well explained video. I’m impressed with Will’s integrity and probity bc he did not recommend any particular brand. Just backed his recommendation with research. I have been taking these supplements to ward off osteoporosis and reduce knee osteoarthritis. It’s hard to ascertain the effectiveness bc I’m expecting more challenges to my body as I age. However, at this stage, these supplements do seem to help.
Very well explained and easy to understand. I hvae had hip pain for more that 6 years now. I have taken lots of Omega 3 and glucosamine. I would like to try out boron. However,,How much boron is advisable? Greetings from South America!