The Arab leaders are in a bind over Israel
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- Опубліковано 11 гру 2023
- Its attack put Arab leaders in a bind over Israel
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As the war in Gaza pulls the Middle East into chaos again, some significant changes have surfaced. Several Arab states who for decades fully supported the Palestinian cause, are instead today taking a more in-the-middle approach. They are growing closer to Israel and would like to continue doing so, but their populations are increasingly angry at Israel. It’s put these country’s governments into a bind that gets more difficult to navigate the longer the war drags on.
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The Arab league nations map you showed is incorrect. It’s missing Mauritania, Djibouti, Comoros islands and Somalia. Please correct this
@@AliA-yn4hk Its correct for the time period
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What happens when turkey Iran and Afghanistan start playing nice?
What you've overlooked is that these governments also like that the issue between Israel and Palestine persists so that the public doesn't focus on the internal problems of their countries and stays fixed on these external issues.
You nailed it!
in order for Arab leaders to continue stealing, looting and killing their own people they must keep the people's minds pre-occupied that their is an external enemy and that enemy can never be defeated you can the leader of Syria for example whenever he talks about the situation in Syria he always says " their is a global conspiracy against us and we are fighting against that " but who is the enemy and what are they're motives? He never specifies instead he keeps saying this to give his pro-butt lickers something to cheer for and get behind
No one cares about that because most of these governments aren't genuine democracies which means they don't serve the people so why would they care about internal issues? Building the wealth of the rich and powerful is more important.
This is a double edged sword if it is true. Because once the extenal issue become so big and the government still takes no action, then the problem becomes internal and all the pressure is redirected towards the government. so the governments would have to walk a very fine line.
pretty accurate
It's the other way around bud. The people are the ones that want the governments to focus on the 'external' issues. This arguments is weak and mainly pushed by the governments themselves to silence the people, internal v. external issues is a paradigm the governments choose to separate issues that are otherwise totally linked. If the UAE benefits internally from an external issue, then this model is irrelevant, likewise if Egypt suffers internally from an external issue.
The only example where one can grant you a pass is Iran, but even there, this only apples to the IL-PS as the external issue... but there's the issue of embargoes from the west imposed on Iran, hugely impacting the internal situation there. So in the end, it still remains a moot argument with little to no bite to it.
This paradigm is only useful in massive superpowers where external issues only have a marginal effect on the internal situation, but no political entity in the middle-east is a superpower.
People seem to misunderstand the topic of the video:
This is a video about the Geopolitical relations between Israel and the Arab states, and how the conflict with Hamas makes them re question their relationships.
This video is NOT about the conflict or about who is right or wrong
Exactly. I'll go even further and say it doesn't even matter who's right or wrong. Israel wants peace and the Palistinians want to be free. That is the crux of the issue here.
@@Austin-vp6qq Gaza was free in 2005.. so maybe not all Palestinians want to be free.. but something else
@@gal2659free ?! can’t have an airport or a sea port or move in or out without a permit and you call this free ? What a delusional way to think about freedom.
@@Khaleya5 Looks like we got an expert here. Sorry, but you need to recheck what happened in Gaza in 2005, and whether it could have an airport or a sea port..
@@Khaleya5there literally was an airport in Gaza before Palestinians turned it into a terrorist base. Ignorant dummy
Great video! Some small corrections:
1. While during the 1973 Yom Kippur war Israel did cross the Suez canal and made some gains during the final phase of the war, they withdrew back to the Asian side of the canal following a renewed ceasefire.
2. The audio said Anwar Sadat was killed by the military, but it was an organisation called the Egyptian Jihad that assassinated him. They disguised themselves as soldiers and opened fire at him while he was observing a military parade, ironically one commemorating his "victory" in the 1973 Yom Kippur war.
Regarding 2, Khalid al-Islambuli participated but it was not a military coup. it was one individual in the military working with others.
After renewed ceasefire egypt kept holding land they got during war (whole east side of canal) while israel withdrew from all land they got in this war.
Israel did not withdraw they they gave at back when the war ended,
Also that Hamas was founded in 1987 and not in the 70's
There was one more: around the 3 minute mark the narrator said the Arab states agreed to reject Israel "until it gave Palestinians land back." This is ignoring the fact that until 1967 Israel did not occupy the West Bank or Gaza and those countries attacked anyway. The modern public Arab position, that of wanting a two state solution, was adopted later.
I’m sorry, but you fail to mention one very crucial fact. Jordan and Egypt rules the the West Bank and Gaza Strip from 1948 until 1967 and didn’t even think about establishing a Palestinian state. There are two main reasons for that, first they considered the Arabs living on those territories as an extra ion of their own nations. Such as Jordan annexing the West Bank, and secondly they had an issue with Israel existing at all.
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This video felt extremely one sided and biased. Completely ignores a lot of historical context and facts and unfortunately this is being passed on as ‘history’.
Your grievous error gave me a gentle chuckle. Horrifying, but you're forgiven this time.
@@melodicvirginia Yes, for example 11:00 The blockade in 2006 was specifically because “Hummus” was chosen by the people. The reporting on this video is heavily anti Isrl.
Vox, where he comes from, has done the same in recent videos.
A lot of people don't focus on the context of geopolitics. Awesome video. And happy six month! Congrats on the success!
Missing a few key details though to be fair
It's quite hillarious that he points out Israel took more land when they won the Yomkippur like DUHHHH don't you know how war works???? Or are scared of loosing millions of inbred fans
In 1972, Sadat expelled 20,000 Soviet advisers from Egypt and opened new diplomatic channels with Washington, D.C., which, as Israel’s key ally, would be an essential mediator in any future peace talks. He formed a new alliance with Syria, and a concerted attack on Israel was planned.
The chief of Mossad from 1963 to 1968 Meir said”Egypt was not ready for war and nasser did not want war.”
@@thegreatprogressivemind788u must look at the speech he gave to the trade unionists😅
@@netaji-thebritishslayer what speech
The lack of support from arab states was what baffled me the most ever since this conflict began. Thank you for this essay
they have their own host of issues...in addition to trying to dog pile isreal at times lol
Its because 1. They know Israel and obliterate them and 2. Its more in their favour for an Israeli state as it means Iran isn't focusing their entire projection into Arab states so it means they can focus on other things and building up defences against both Israel and Iran.
They went to war with Israel so not exactly. The US gives Israel blank cheques, pretty much.
Because all arabs countries ruled by traitors who work only for money they get from the west
Why ? when did Arab states helped them ?
'48 war was full of self interests and desires to annex territory (to Greater Syria aspiration or to Jordan, as the latter did, which isn't mentioned here, simply says "Arab control" in 02:45). Hell, the diversity is what made them lose that war.. Qawuqji couldn't stand El-Husseini, or Hassan Salame.. no co-ordination no nothing..
Palestinians themselves were divided with the extreme anti-partition policy led by El-Husseini, who were unfortunately the leading voice, against more moderates who were either pro-partition or up for discussion. Division even led to assassination of moderates like Sami Taha.
'73 war was to revenge for the '67 loss and gain territories back.
Some more Historical reasons why Arab leaders don't help them:
Jordan- 1951 King assassinated, guess by who. 1970 Black September.
Lebanon- 1975 dragged into an insane civil war partly/mostly (depends who you're asking) by Palestinian refugees. During this time, Syria also started having shakey relations with the Palestinians as a result.
Kuwait- Palestinian refugees supported Saddam during the invasion
Egypt- el-Sisi praying every night that Israel would finish Hamas. Can't stand them, they're a branch of the Muslim brothers, his worst enemies. Egypt co-decided and enforced the 2007 blockade for a reason.
They always tied themselves with the extreme leaders.. Saddam, Ghaddafi, Idi Amin, always looking to incite and cause troubles in other places..
The only Arabs that are helping are other Iran proxys.. and that's the only reason they're helping..
Why would Arab governments be dragged into a surprise war made by a bunch of psychos ? Arab leaders know well enough who Hamas are. They know exactly what happened in Gaza between 2005-2007 (which isn't mentioned in the video), and they know that since then, Gazans life is made miserable by Hamas. This war, is just another one in a line of wars between Hamas and Israel, which gained nothing but more poverty and desperation for Gazans. Everyone realize that when Hamas took over, they blew a great precedent for the West Bank to be free of Israeli occupation as well..
They know Hamas is also Qatarian funded, and if you'll dive into the recent Qatar diplomatic crisis, you'll get another reasons why Arabs aren't the biggest fans of this.
It's a weird headline for this video.. the Arab world was always split
In 1967, Israel did NOT "aprk another war". Egypt did that with a blockade.
That's a stupid excuse.. Israel struck first, which makes it the one who sparked the war, it wasn't even a war it was an aggression by Israel on Arabs.
I noticed that too. Never mentions that Palestinians were offered Statehood on numerous occasions but refused, that the 1400 Palestinians killed in retaliatory attacks in 2023 were in response to Hamas slaughtering over 3000 Israelis on October 7th, and other factual gaslighting. Search Party is just another far-left outlet disguised as objective news.
i think youre switching up 1956, thats when the suez crisis began and Egypt blocked the suez for israeli trade. Israel did win some regions over but a UN resolution forced them to go back. 1967 was the six day war where Israel took revenge and took over the sinai etc
Hamas is not concerned about 2 state solution, but about one Arab-Islamic state instead, so hell no.
lol well I know where you get your news from…fox, cnn…because that’s literally not true Hamas wants a two state solution they’ve said so for like a decade now.
Hamas offered to dismantle its military wing in exchange for a Palestinian state on the 1967 borders more than once in 1998, 2006 and 2007, but Israel did not agree because they simply do not leave something they have usurped by peace, but it is taken away from them by force, and offered again now, but of course there is no response from the side with the ideology of Greater Israel, which has demonstrations demanding settlements in Lebanon.
Hamas offered to dismantle its military wing in exchange for a Palestinian state on the 1967 borders more than once in 1998, 2006 and 2007, but Israel did not agree because they simply do not leave something they have usurped by peace, but it is taken away from them by force, and offered again now, but of course there is no response from the side with the ideology of Greater Israel, which has demonstrations demanding settlements in Lebanon.
@@AmiraMohamed-lt4iy If someone punched you in the face cause they hated you so u fight them back and you beat them up, and as ur leaving you take his watch, and then he comes back to beat you up again cause he hates you and u take all his money out of his wallet this time, and he does it again and this time you take his gold necklace, after u beat his ass of course, and he comes back and says "Ill stop harrasing you and attacking you and trying to beat you up if you give me my stuff back" what would you do? Are you, morally, in the wrong for saying "screw you, imma keep all ur stuff and beat you up again"?
I noticed this on Johnny Harris's vids, but I love how you have a tracker along the bottom of the ad breaks. It's very user friendly.
On the eve of the Yom Kippur war, Dovi, one of Marwan's handlers, told his bosses at Mossad that their mole in the Egyptian state demanded an immediate meeting between 4-5 October.
The meeting was “to give information of great importance… connected to the ‘chemicals’ in his possession”.
“Chemicals” was the code word for warnings about information concerning an impending war.
Sadat refused to sign a peace deal with Israel unless they kept the gaza and the west Bank in israeli control as he did not want the Palestinians in his country
Source: trust me bro
Source: trust me bro
@@val86-xg5kq Sadat was a traitor though, because he switched allegiance from Soviets to USA
This skips the multiple peace deals offered by Israel to the Palestinians which were rejected by their leaders the most recent of which was 2008
Rubbish. Israel is the one who financially propped up Hamas in order to rival the more recognized PLO and to create division within Palestine and thwart a future state. Israel then agreed to relinquish stolen Palestinian land and halt their settlements in OSLO but instead they kept every inch and expedited their illegal settlements far into previously agreed upon Palestinian Territories and with brutal violence. Once you stop reading Israeli propaganda and do your own research you will feel better about knowing the truth
See, these deals only benefited Israel. They were rejected because it was a bad deal for the Palestinians
If the peace deal's is offering slavery! How you will call it a peace treaty? Isreal rejected more then Palestines! All have sympathies for isreal but not knowing they refuses any Palestine state!
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Video is great as usual. I'd give a tiny suggestion, make the video divided by chapters (as it's called in UA-cam) that'll clearly demarcate different aspects and subtopics inside the video (also, it'll clearly mark the Sponsorship segment). That's just a tiny suggestion...
Edit: I wonder what you'll make in the next video (given it's Atlantic Ocean in there)
I'm Egyptian and we have some different views regarding the peace treaty, even we collectively despise the "Zionist entity" we agree on the importance of it to gain back our land and sustain peace as much as we can, plus sadat from day one of war knew he was in no shape of fighting israel "and America" by association.
Sadat made the right "nessecary" decision
Exactly, The suez canal is very important for Egypt
Well America wasn't gonna join, just send weapons, the same thing about USSR
Sam you have delivered some really good stuff once again. Big ups 🙏
Thank you for making this video
THANK YOU. This was the contextual video on the middle east that I feel like has really been missing. I feel much better informed for having watched it.
I appreciate it.
Dude he oversimplified and missed so much stuff,not giving proper context.. he said that “Israel sparked the 6 day war” which is not how it really went down. Israel attacked preemptively as a response to Egypt and Arab armies amassing at the border. In other words, the Arabs were gettting ready to attack Israel
Really glad to see more coverage on this issue form a more macro lens POV and less from an emotional POV.
I feel like only with these kinds of large scale contexts can the conflict be inched towards peace, not with calls for the destruction of Gaza or for the abolition of the state of Israel, as these are coming more from a place of raw emotion and have no actual basis in real world context and implications
When lives are on the stake both parties can get emotional, but the important thing is to allow for that emotion blind you from truth about the genocidal campaigns dehumanisation and the apartheid regime
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This was helpful. Thanks
Well put together loved the maps. Thanks!
One important piece of context for the six day way is that Egypt and Syria were building up tanks and their armies on the Israeli border, and many of the key signs for war like soviet ambassadors leaving
Also that the Israeli population is primarily not European Jews anymore. The population is roughly 20% Arab, 45% Mizrach Jews(Middle Eastern/North African) and 35% Ashkenazi Jews (European). With if course Jews that don't fit any of these categories like Beta Israel from Ethiopia and Bene Israel from India.
The Non-Ashkenazis have been westernized since a while now. The fact that Israel is a Western base in the middle east and that its population has absolutely nothing in common (religiously, ideologically, culturally) with the rest of the region's populations is very difficult to contest.
@@martinmatino6253 What do you mean by "westernised"?
There's almost no difference between Lebanese Christians and Arab Israeli Jews in looks or their outlooks.
@@asoton957doesn't change the fact israel is settler colonial project(zionist literally called themselves colonizers)and arabs are treated as second class citizens . Similar to south africa .
@@pixelpie5280 doesn’t change the fact that Arabs (some after 1948 began to call themselves Palestinians) tried to eradicate the xJe.ws since the 1800’s and one day one of Israel they along with 5 Arab countries sent their armies into Israel.
@@martinmatino6253 there are Christian Israelites and Christian Lebanese that look the same and have similar values. There use to be more Christian Lebanese but Palestinians in large number went into southern Lebanon and were a big factor in starting a war against the Christian Lebanese while also attacking Israel
You forgot the issue that Palestinians have been extremely disruptive and negative for the governments that did help them. Muslim brotherhood meddling with secular Arabism in Egypt and Syria, ruining Lebanon from a peaceful multi religious Christian entity into the war torn mess it is today, the Jordanian assassinations against the former and attempted against the current king, they supported saddams war in Kuwait despite Kuwait being one of the few countries that let them in in massive numbers, and a few more incidents besides.
The Arab state are conscious and wary of Palestinians for good reason because they’ve done more damage than Israel has technically.
This was a basic amt of info about the conflict, with decent accuracy. I don’t think he has done enough research to speak about what you’re saying. Most people don’t know this, glad to see a few genuinely knowledgable commentators here.
The muslim brotherhood candidate won the elections fair and square in the 2011 egyptian elections
The majority of people wanted a muslim state in Egypt, which is why they voted for Morsi.
Also, that's a very big oversimplification of events that took place in Lebanon leading to its collapse: the PLO did play a part in it, but it wasn't the only reason the country collapsed (other reasons include sectarian tensions, the militias question, refusal to recognize palestinian immigrants as lebanese citizens, the overwhelming power that the president had over the cabinet, systematic corruption in every level of government, etc. Which issue was more important depends on which religious group you ask)
Arab puppet rulers don't represent the will of the people living there just because isreal is in bed with their rulers doesn't mean the people living there like the isrealis.
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I'll tell you Lebanon's problem: it was a state which prioritised Christians over everyone else, established by France to serve France's interest against neighbouring Muslim countries.
@@Moses_VII still a better place than the mess it turned into today
I'm sharing this with everyone I know, so clearly covered.
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One of the best videos of this conflict I've seen. The colours you used on the graphics, especially the graphs, made this soooo much easier to follow than almost all similar channels. Great job.
you cant call it a conflict if one side has nuclear weapons, tanks, aircraft, artillary, and a standing army while the other has a small militia group in only the gaza strip
and they're backed by the united states, there is clearly a victim here
I really liked the video, how the information was presented and clearly explained my only negative comment is that the title is misleading. If anything, the video explains the repercussions of the Arab Spring on the conflict or how the Iran interference ended being a negative impact on the bigger picture rather than it being Hamas.
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I always thought Atlas was the best thing Vox ever produced. I loved what Sam did with it and elevated it once Johnny went to Borders. Atlas is in good hands still but there's now basically an 'Atlas-only' channel? Oh hell yes! Expect a comment along the lines of "this is my very favourite thing on UA-cam and I love it dearly, I will set aside time for it and look forward to watching each upload no matter the topic". Those sweet infographics and the welll-researched topics are Chef's Kiss. Did I mention this is and has from the outset, my very favourite series on UA-cam and I love it dearly? Because I do! You're the best Sam
2:53. “Israel sparked another war”. Love how you just leave out all context they were attacked first from multiple fronts
They were not attacked first, the, Israel killed around 300 peaceful protesters years before it who marched to end the blockade, and after that Israel continued to Harasse Palestinians buy trashing the Aqsa mosque, expanding their illegal settlement, enabling settlers to kill and abuse Palestinians, imprisoning Palestinians with no trails including children, all of that while the western media ignored it so people like you but the blame on the Palestinians when they decide enough is enough and fight back for their right to exist in their land with dignity
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Israel started the conflict according to international law, they attacked before any actual combat or declaration of war happened.
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Good shit Sam. Keep growing steadily so that you can hire more people and put out as many vids a month as Johnny. I’ve really been liking your work
Your videos are so well made and your narration is extremely clear.
Marwan, the son-in-law of former Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser, told the then Mossad chief Zvi Zamir “there is a 99 percent chance that the war will start tomorrow… (Oct 6, 1973) it will start simultaneously on both fronts, the Egyptian and the Syrian”.
Those warnings were largely dismissed by the Israeli defence establishment. But they proved accurate.
That's about as great as the explanation of the geopolitical conflict can get. Thank you for this wonderful and objective video.
Objective? LOL. Mentions that 1400 Palestinians were killed in retaliatory attacks in October 2023 but conveniently fails to mention it was in response to Hamas slaughtering over 3000 Israeli men, women, and children on October 7th.
Iran and Saudi Arabia came to an agreement this year and made peace with each other
In 1967 didn't Egypt close off the Gulf of Aqaba to Israel shipping and the surrounding Arab nations mobilize their troops (similar fashion to Russia before they Invaded Ukraine)? That prompted Israel to be preemptive? This video cartwheels over a lot of details.. but I guess this topic can't be covered in full in 16mins.
Israel was never in danger in 67.
@@mussyegit would be really bad for Israel's trade and oil supply wdym?
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You omitted some key components that should be mentioned: E.g., Who assassinated Yitzakh Rabin who took a 'first step' to a peace process with the Palestinians.
Throughout this Arab Monarchy
Wow! Great job! Thank you so much for sharing. Def clarified some things for me.
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One correction: at 2:50 you said that Israel sparked the 1967 six days war. While Israel did start the war it was only after Egyptian troops were mobilized to the border, and Abdel Nassar (the Egyptian President) declared he was going to wipe Israel off the map.
This unprofessional video is filled with anti-Israrl bias
Amazing video... Thank you for the truth....
Cool video, wish it came out earlier
I like this youtuber narratives. it sure makes history funny.
Are we really gonna completely gloss over everything leading up to the 6 day war in 67 and just say that Israel started it? All signs were pointing to an imminent invasion from Jordan and Egypt and Egypt had also blockaded the gulf of aqaba (which is literally an act of war...).
He DID say that Israel started it and I beg to differ. Israel took the first strike that is true, but Nasser was told a lie by the Soviets and surprise surprise it took off.
This is not the first time they have done this. I commented on this extremely biased selective presentation of the facts on a previous video they made where they also glossed over everything leading up to the 6 day war and simply blamed Israel. I'm glad to see others picking up on it.
This is not the first time they have done this. I commented on this extremely biased selective presentation of the facts on a previous video they made where they also glossed over everything leading up to the 6 day war and simply blamed Israel. I'm glad to see others picking up on it.
The fact that this video is 007 makes it all the better, lets go James Bond!
Awesome presentation
Good job! Love your videos, sports and all!
Nice video. But 2:52 wording could have been better instead of “Israel sparked another war”. Yes They launched pre-emptive strike but after iraq egypt and jordan mobilized their armies on their border. More context would have helped to first time viewers
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Yeah the Arab world has always been split.. that’s why there are countries like Syria and Yemen that have been in a state of civil war for like over a decade
For someone uneducated on the subject this might seem like a fair recap of historical events. It is not.
* Israel did not start the 1967 (six day war), Egypt did by closing the Straits of Tiran (an act of war), kicking out UN peace keeping force in Sinai and mobilizing on the border.
* Israel invasion of Southern Lebanon was preceded by numerous terror attacks from PLO based in Southern Lebanon.
* Israel did offer the WB back to Jordan during the peace talk, they didn't want it.
* For that matter, Israel also offered the Gaza and over 92% of the WB (2000 Camp David). The Palestinian leadership (Yasser Arafat) refused. In 2008, Ehud Olmert offered Gaza and over 99% of the WB (with territorial swaps) and parts of East Jerusalem. The Palestinian leadership (Mahmoud Abbas) just walked out on it.
* The blockade of the Gaza strip only began *after* Hamas took over, not before.
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Cherry picking facts it's not telling the true. What Israel is doing is colonizing and war crimes. The UN said it so many times.
@BDB I've also pointed out their errors and the act that the content creator said "Israel sparked another war" set me off. I'm old enough to remember that war, and its been endlessly discussed and analyzed by people smarter than him. FFS
So many of your points are outright lies. Absolute Israel propaganda. Funny how you frame Israel giving crumbs to the Palestenian people as good will actions. Or how you frame resistance as terror attacks, but not the much more common, deadly and brutal Israel attacks.
Just read your sentences. Arabs are bad for "starting" the 1967 war. But Israel isn't bad for starting the war against Lebanon. Arab resistance is terrorism and bad. Israel genocide can't be bad and is actually defense. The powerful is allowed to genocide, terrorize and murder hundreds of thousands, while the weak isn't even allowed to throw stones back.
Whenever Israel talks, it reads exactly like Russia talking about Ukraine, English in Ireland, French in Algeria or Third Reich in Poland. Exact same words. Genocide, apartheid and settler colonialism. Of course Israel will pretend to give things back, and then claim Palestenians refused it. The powerful always do this obvious move. You have to be very stupid to fall for it.
There will never be peace in the Region while Israel exists. Even after you kill all Palestenians, their brothers will remember. The only road for peace if the abolishment of Israel and the creation of ONE state for all christian, jewish, and muslim natives. Like christian, jewish, and muslim Palestinians been asking for decades.
Also they didn't mention they can't give back the Golan Heights to Syria as they are still not in peace and would be a death sentence for all people living within a 100km radius from the heights due to modern artillery.
great video
Great stuff guys! Each of your videos are amazing! Congratulations on the sixer.
I thought there were two odd ones: Israel 'sparking another war' in 67 and rejecting Saudi Arabia's ask for a Palestinian state are pretty questionable claims. That being said, I don't want to crash the conversation: it is really hard to give context on this issue and you've done a brilliant job.
Was looking for this comment. Saying Israel sparked the conflict isn’t accurate. They were responding to military build on their boarders from Syria, Egypt and Jordan. An attack was imminent.
It’s impossible to go over this history in 16 minutes.
Thé military build UP by their neighbors is due to the soviet informing that Israel is planning an attack
The chief of mossad from 1963 to 1968 Meir said”Egypt was not ready for war and nasser did not want war.”
@@thegreatprogressivemind788 I saw a documentary that said he didn't want one, but it had gotten away from him and he was worried about being assassinated by his officers if he did not.
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this video wasn't long enough. great content.
The sponsor segment fits so well in the video
No mention on how in 2005 Israel left the Gaza Strip exactly because of the Mutual Disengagement plan. Israel kept their part of the bargain, but what did the Palestinians do? Voted Hamas in to power in 2005 and by 2006 they were in complete control.
yep, and im think that if they kept going in the right peaceful way, Palastine would benefits today west bank on their control and maybe other lands too
This video was so much more nuanced than the recent Vox videos on this same issue. Glad that there's still a stream of hope of the current media landscape. Great work! Keep it up!
The solution is to remove Netanyahu from the equation.
THIS!!!!!
"Isreal sparked another war" Israel NEVER made the first move
Outstanding work
"Great essay! However, I believe that starting the discussion of this issue with British colonialism is an oversimplification. The British only held control for 28 years, which is a relatively short period in the history of empires. Before that, the land had been under Ottoman Empire rule, and Jews had lived there for centuries. Ignoring this history, ignores another big part of this puzzle.
Jews didn't even make more than 5% of population under Ottoman rule.
Brits wooed Arabs to backstab Ottomans - a Muslim authority - in exchange for a large Arab state of their own but later backtracked. Not only did it backtrack, it offered Palestine to Jews in 1917.
Your mind is too simplistic to understand this conflict, especially the role of Brits.
European jews and African jews did migrate in groves though to new land of Israel. Which makes up majority today.
@@maquacr7014 Then we can go back further, before the Ottoman rule to the Muslim Conquest when 90,000 Christians were massacred. My point is that this area is millennia old and has been fought over many times. To blame it all on the Brits, who I'm not saying are innocent in this, and use words like "Colonialism," and disregard all this previous history and the historical importance of this land to so many of all religions and backgrounds, won't make solutions come any easier.
Also, we don't need a negative response. Debate is important and necessary. Don't make it a zero-sum game and throw around insults. It's counterproductive.
@@cookies1758 Which 90000 Christians were massacred? And where? Are you talking about Armenians?
I guess that does highlight the complexity of this history when we’re asking which 90,000. I was referring to the siege of Jerusalem in 636. I was going way back for that one. I’m curious I’ve been building a reading list to help myself understand all this, do you have any books, articles to recommend?
Seems like a good summary! Makes me understand that everyone is doing calculations and it is not just "too complicated to talk about". Thank you.
This was a good basic overview of the history and I understand you can’t include everything but you could’ve mentioned the PLO and the fatah-Hamas conflict. The main thing though was that the main reason Israel didn’t accept the Arab peace initiative wasn’t the West Bank, it was that it would’ve included right of return to Israel proper.
Great work Sam and team - such a clear flow of information
When he said factual and BBC in one sentence , I directly knew I would never use that ground app😂😂😂
Most of the BBC's reporting is competent?
@@nommsperhaps when it is about local affairs. But about when it is about the Israel-Hamas war you would need to watch all the time to catch their latest apologize for misinformation before you could trust it.
Apparently, getting a story first comes before getting it right.
@@nomms Outlets can be different on topics and audiences. Is the BBC factual in international coverage? Absolutely. Some of the best coverage in the world. How they're covering transgender rights in their own country? Absolute trash.
And it's not just them. Al Jazeera, for example. They do an excellent job covering much of the Mideast with an objective eye. They do great work there. Covering their home country of Qatar? Very different. Context matters in all aspects.
Both are government-funded outlets. They do maintain a lot of editorial independence, but there can always be a pain point where they could toe the line. Doesn't mean you can't rely on their coverage at all, but be smart in how you rely on it and understand where its coming from.
Look, I am an old fart (mid 50's) and I read a lot and try to extract the truth from between the lines. You are doing a genuinely great job. I just recommended you to my 18 year old son. Kudos!
Great video. Thank you. Can you please also make a video about the war between Ukraine and Russia?
I think you overlooked the fact that in 2005 Israel completely withdrew from Gaza and dragged Jews living in Gaza out of their homes in hopes to make peace. Then the people of Gaza elected Hamas…
They were colonists and settlers. Most of Gaza wasn't born when Hamas was elected. Hamas was elected with only 30% of the vote. Hamas was also supported by Israel before it took over Gaza.
@@bloodfiredrake7259 whatever the Jews living in Gaza were, the Israeli government took them out so that they could attempt to make peace with the Palestinians living there. Are you trying to tell me that the people in Gaza don’t want Hamas as their leader? Why don’t you condemn Hamas for not taking care of their civilians? They never thought to build even one bomb shelter to protect against Israel’s supposed unwarranted attacks?
Another great video guys! Great explanation of this geopolitical issue.
Very refreshing how this didn't try to shove some narrative down my throat and just provided context for the conflict
Amazing videoonce again.
I would like you to cover the Armenian - Azerbaijan conflict the next. I have no clue what is the decade old reason and why did it happen now.
you still didn't answer the question though " do you condemn hamas for what it did on october the 7th?"
Do you?
The intro is not right, you should have started from 1948
Did you watch the rest of the video?
Well done video, completely unrelated but could you explain your desktop setup? I see that you have a Philips curved monitor but have an apple looking interface on your screen. Just curious, well done again✨
I knew i knew this voice. Excellent production as always. Been a fan for years on VOX. Just subscribed to this new project. Best wishes.
Nearly 1/4 of this video is an ad 😑
In October war Israel didn't have alot of territory on west of the canal they couldn't capture any major cities and on other side egyptian still have 13km beach head
The egyptian plan is to have territories in East of the canal and then negotiate peace deal because we already don't have the same kind of support that Israel had from US
U had soviet union😅
@netaji-thebritishslayer in 1972 Egypt have problems with USSR and as a result Russian pilots and expert leve the country
Fun fact we have North Korean pilots fight with us 😆😆
@@khaledhassan639fun fact, America didn't really join the war, they just supported Israel, like they didn't send weapons, mind u some countries are using Israeli weapons 😂😂
The arabs werent fighting against the british and french colonial rule as the british and french had just freed them from the ottomans and for the most part had set up self governing territories with extremely little european influence. The exception was palestine as it was agreed to let in immigration and it was the jews who were basically the ones rebelling against british authority.
Best part was , that was in addition to the OPEC embargo a key event that led to exploration for oil across the globe.
The following decades would see huge offshore discoveries as well as in the far north regions , plus development of new technologies.
They really shot themselves in the foot on that one.
This video should be named How the British split the Arab world.
That's an excuse
2:53. “Israel sparked another war” well at least we know where the biases are in this video. Love how you just leave out all context whatsoever. Pitiful
I noticed that too
awesome sauce that you and the search party team are crushing it dude!
Finally a video that's somewhat neutral and includes all necessary info to make the whole thing understandable.
While I appreciate the depth you get into here in this video and that you can't possibly include everything, there are multiple instances where you gloss or entirely skip over information that can help viewers build a more complete and accurate understanding and opinion on the subject.
Examples:
- when Wa'el says "mainly European Jews" at 2:15, no context or time frame is given, ignoring the fact that the 1948 deceleration of Israel resulted in all of the Arab countries expelling their Jewish populations and so already in 1950 the majority of Jews in Israel were not "European". Regardless, this also plays into (mostly antisemitic) tropes claiming that Jews have no historical connection to the land are are "white, European settlers".
- when talking about the early 2000s and peace between Israel and the Palestinians, ignoring the second Intifada as a potential reason for rejection of the Saudi peace plan, as well as the multiple peace initiatives and deals offered to the PA by Israel (for example Olmert agreeing to almost everything the wanted), makes it seem as if Israel rejected the only peace initiative, didn't initiate any themselves, and implies that Palestinians have no agency of their own.
Agreed
Despite what Sam Ellis claims to be an unbiased video, this video is extremely biased against Israel. Probably because all sources, left and right, like to be antisemitic. If he truly wanted to be unbiased, he wouldn't just invite Wa'el Alzayat, an outspoken anti-Israel propagandist, but he would also invite someone from the Israeli side to speak about the conflict. I'm quite disappointed.
@@andreimandelshtam1943 I don't think that "all sources" are antisemitic (and not all people who aren't "pro-Israel" are antisemitic). Western voices in academia and journalism tend to be biased for sure, though I don't think some fringe right-wing super pro Israel voice here would have balanced things out either.
As an Israeli, I found Wa'el to be pretty fair with what he was saying, not that I necessarily agreed with all his analysis. I just think that the perspective from which he was speaking was clearly a biased one, just like I would have regardless of how hard I tried to present things neutrally.
This isn’t accurate at all as anyone who has properly studied the early noughties history of the conflict
@@jsquire5pa would you care to be more specific as to what you are calling inaccurate? "this" could mean a lot of things.
This is the best video I've seen that highlights how exactly we got to this point. How shifts in support/care for Palestine over decades reached a boiling point which factored into Hamas' attack in Oct. 7. Really highlights the entire region well. Thank you for the information.
I had an okay knowledge prior to this informative breakdown too. Makes sense where things currently stand unfortunately.
a few things ill say as a sudani, our part of the abraham accords the deal was done by the TMC, a transitional government after the overthrow of the 30 year dictator omar al bashir.
part of the deal was the usa lifting sanctions, taking sudan off the state sponsor of terrorism which allows use to the IMF bank, among other things just to recognize israel. the majority of sudanese people disagreed with it and protested the decision because of reasons explained in the video(the 1967 resolution mentioned that was included the video was in the capital khartoum), mutliple israeli airstrikes they have done in sudan killing a few hundred people and destroyed a legal munitions factory, we also are strong supporters of the palestinian movement.
the deal was politically and economically the best for the country of sudan even tho the people dont agree with it and will always stand for palestinians. it also was the best deal out of all the deals of the countries involved in the abraham accords alot of countries agreed to for not alot in return, morocco was the only other country that got a somewhat solid return with the US recognition of the western sahara as moroccan land but im not sure the benefits of that if no other countries recognize it