I Wish Someone Had Told Me This About MY GRIP! (SHOT IN THE 70’s SINCE!)

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  • @AlexElliottGolf
    @AlexElliottGolf  11 місяців тому +6

    *This is GENIUS AND DEFINITELY a hidden gem that will get you the anti slice grip EVERY SINGLE TIME*

  • @healthygolfer
    @healthygolfer 11 місяців тому +19

    I’ve used Adam Scott’s gripping technique for a while. It’s interesting that I believe that you’re the first person/instructor to give as detailed explanation of his grip for ordinary golfers. I have yet to hear if anyone has ever asked him how he came about to using this technique and why he adopted it.

    • @davidkramer194
      @davidkramer194 11 місяців тому +1

      It feels so weird but it has helped my ball striking immensely.

    • @davidkramer194
      @davidkramer194 11 місяців тому +2

      The only thing I wish he would have covered is that it creates a cupped setup which feels so uncomfortable but it's right

    • @healthygolfer
      @healthygolfer 10 місяців тому

      @@davidkramer194 Hopefully, he replies!

    • @AlexElliottGolf
      @AlexElliottGolf  10 місяців тому

      I love using it to be honest! i do this when i do this more when i’m playing

    • @user-ck9tb4fv2x
      @user-ck9tb4fv2x 4 місяці тому

      I recently picked up golf. I modified my grip to be this one because my wrist was hurting, and I thought about how people use pistols. The idea behind pistol shooting is to hold it in that fold to create a full straight line through the site. Similar I wanted to create a full straight line through the club making it an extension of my arm rather than a weird obtuse angle coming off of my wrist. I've noticed less grip slip after a shot, preventing rotation and more power to my shots.
      I like applying body mechanics to golf that I've learned from other things like shooting for the way I hold, and skateboarding to help me understand swing mechanics more. Golf is a lot of fun. I'm trying to learn how to create the shot shapes now and improve my driving skills.

  • @michaelhill2810
    @michaelhill2810 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks!

  • @Mike70005
    @Mike70005 10 місяців тому +3

    Excellent explanation. Will try this immediately.

  • @andrewmainsbridge4270
    @andrewmainsbridge4270 11 місяців тому +2

    So detailed and well explained, as always! I will definitely be using this technique. Thank you again.

  • @robertdavis5465
    @robertdavis5465 10 місяців тому +1

    Great tip. Tried it and really like the results I got. Added it to my routine for each shot and eliminated my tendency to just grab club with left thumb on top. Once you get it, doesn’t slow you or others down.

  • @russellbell6484
    @russellbell6484 11 місяців тому +1

    I’ve never had a set pre swing routine and if struggled with wondering if my grip is right. This might help both and get me to relax and empty my head of all the golf thoughts running through it.

  • @09Youba
    @09Youba 11 місяців тому +1

    Alex, just came back from the range. I was pulling the ball but not coming over the top.
    Squeezing the last 2 fingers of lead hand sure helped but I went to a strong grip and that
    worked wonders. Thank you.

  • @seantracey43
    @seantracey43 11 місяців тому +4

    Quality as always!! I’m going to try this tomorrow.

  • @jrr0529
    @jrr0529 3 місяці тому

    I have struggled when hitting driver for years. After adopting this routine, I am hitting my tee shots straighter and longer than ever before. Thank you for sharing this.

  • @jeffdillon9526
    @jeffdillon9526 10 місяців тому +5

    Absolutely taught in the most basic fundamental way possible!!!

  • @rooikatpommie8338
    @rooikatpommie8338 11 місяців тому +2

    Can’t wait to see my golfing buds confused look at me doing this on the first tee. Third grip video I’ve seen this week all saying theirs is the right way and will fix things, very confusing, think I might resort to grip and rip it and dispense with the on course swing thoughts.

    • @ParawayGolf
      @ParawayGolf 11 місяців тому

      Different explanations help different people. The premise of the grip position is all relatively the same though. I actually think this one is more practical in terms of explaining than the "line up parallel to the inside of your fingers but don't grip with your palm" style. This one at least sounds like it's more designed by practical feel and natural wrist angles for people who are all different. :)

    • @rooikatpommie8338
      @rooikatpommie8338 11 місяців тому +1

      @@ParawayGolf I found the three all ended with a different grip, one with the crease on the right hand aiming up the right shoulder and thumb straight down the grip. I guess it’s try all and see how you get on.

    • @ParawayGolf
      @ParawayGolf 10 місяців тому

      @@rooikatpommie8338 totally. Golf is a lifelong journey to get better, so you've (hopefully) got lots of time for trial and error! :)

    • @TimSuttonGolf
      @TimSuttonGolf 5 місяців тому

      @@rooikatpommie8338 if your thumb is straight down the grip at address, you will open the face as you try and push with your thumb at impact. If your thumb is on the right like this, it means you can apply force to the handle/grip with your thumb without rolling the face open :)

  • @hsc69
    @hsc69 10 місяців тому

    I saw Adam talk about this 10 years ago during a tournament. The television crew was making a point of it. It works every time. I have just forgotten about it. Thank you.

  • @davethomson-zj9ht
    @davethomson-zj9ht 11 місяців тому +2

    Great as always Alex, I will try this out tomorrow

  • @davidsmuk9735
    @davidsmuk9735 9 місяців тому

    I used this grip method for the first time and had my best score in a long while - Great video as always Alex.

  • @joannaespley6035
    @joannaespley6035 6 місяців тому

    Really interesting - I've always struggled to get left thumb comfy

  • @devastatn
    @devastatn 7 місяців тому

    Great tip. I followed JT & Jordan at the heritage on Hilton Head Saturday a couple of weeks ago, and JT did that before addressing the ball a few times. Thanks for clearing that up, Alex. Keep these tips coming. ❤ 💯 👍

  • @jasontroutman9845
    @jasontroutman9845 4 місяці тому

    The position left thumb is so important. I had a “fake strong grip” with thumb more on top and palm more on top so it appeared to be a strong grip. This caused club to open and resulted in embarrassing extreme blocks. Did not hit one block since I’ve made sure the left thumb is on the right side of grip. Great video keep up good work!

    • @AlexElliottGolf
      @AlexElliottGolf  3 місяці тому

      Watch my latest video!! It’s all about a grip routine - ua-cam.com/video/7gEyZth-dwg/v-deo.htmlsi=6OdawN-sAoqt7So1

  • @johnschwartz1536
    @johnschwartz1536 11 місяців тому

    Excellent tip Alex on a Adam Scott technique for getting the proper grip on the golf club. I have seen Scott do this on numerous occasions during PGA events. It has always intrigued me as to why he went through this process. Thank you Alex for clearing this up for me. I am going to try following your suggestion of this 5 step process! Well Done Alex!!!

    • @AlexElliottGolf
      @AlexElliottGolf  11 місяців тому

      Yeah it helped me a lot i never really looked into it too much, thanks for tuning in!

  • @rayadam6460
    @rayadam6460 10 місяців тому

    Alex enjoyed the video question can ask could you explain the takeaway for a bunker shot please.

  • @davidg3019
    @davidg3019 5 місяців тому +1

    wow, thank you, I saw this video last week and practiced every day in my back yard. I did not get a chance to go to the range, but played a round today and hit 10/13 fairways (2 missed by driving through the fairway) and 4/5 par 3 greens. If you know my game, this is unheard of! Unfortunately, i tried in the fairway and didnt have as much success, but that is probably due to other reasons.

  • @vektacular
    @vektacular 11 місяців тому

    Love the slight fade!! Real nice….tell ya what, it changed my game for the better by 10 strokes.

  • @banditbaker1675
    @banditbaker1675 10 місяців тому

    This would be an ideal and simple Pre-shot routine (with the addition of target and flight selection when behind the ball)

  • @kindered
    @kindered 10 місяців тому

    Hi Alex, great content!
    One question I have for you, at the very beginning of the swing, do you try to start with the hip open or neutral or closed to target? I feel like there is benefit to start with the open hip, but I am wondering if this is a “power leak”. (This for irons and drivers)

    • @AlexElliottGolf
      @AlexElliottGolf  10 місяців тому

      Yes i will try and cover this in another video, great question! Oh and thanks for tuning into the videos I appreciate it 🙌🏼

  • @Amazzinguy
    @Amazzinguy 3 місяці тому

    So some feedback i know its a old video --but ive tried to do this on the course and disasterous -- i normally slice the ball , tried ball postion , re-grip , how i hold my club no matter the club the ball slices from tee shot it goes right ball lost or out of bounds and then the recovery ~

  • @stephenwallace2888
    @stephenwallace2888 10 місяців тому +3

    Thanks Alex for that video on the Grip

  • @Mike70005
    @Mike70005 10 місяців тому

    All your videos are excellent. I particularly enjoyed your video on driver set up and hitting through the ball. Could you show how to adjust the ball position as you move from driver through the bag?

    • @AlexElliottGolf
      @AlexElliottGolf  10 місяців тому +1

      Yes i will try and cover this in another video, great question! Oh and thanks for tuning into the videos I appreciate it 🙌🏼

  • @DougMcilvenna
    @DougMcilvenna 7 місяців тому

    Alex I started using this today and I would like to thank you my drives were further and straighter now I just need too pick up more speed

  • @sydhills3387
    @sydhills3387 11 місяців тому

    Hi Alex, enjoy your videos. I happened to watch this, this morning before I went out to play.
    I did do this the whole round, 14 drives 1 pulled one. The rest were much straighter and slightly longer than usual. Likewise with my irons. I'm not long hitter. I just cannot seem to work the ground forces and transition weight through. I'm all shoulders😂😂.
    Take away the ball and everything seems to work.
    Great tip, enjoyed my game today 89 with 3 lost balls.
    From Australia in Thailand. Cheers😊

    • @AlexElliottGolf
      @AlexElliottGolf  10 місяців тому

      Loveee this!! Yeah this is a problem i have heard before, i will try and cover this in another video for sure

  • @malldread930
    @malldread930 10 місяців тому

    Great information to ensure the proper grip.

  • @susancrowther9998
    @susancrowther9998 11 місяців тому

    Very well explained - wish I could hit the ball that far off the tee - even over 200 would be epic!

  • @cdj4572
    @cdj4572 4 місяці тому +1

    I always had trouble slicing because of my grip. Just could never get it right. I was at the range a month ago hitting balls everywhere but where I wanted to them to. I remembered seeing this video, used this method and the very next shot went dead straight. And it has consistently worked since. It takes the thought out the grip and it's just automatic. Seriously, try it.

    • @AlexElliottGolf
      @AlexElliottGolf  3 місяці тому

      Watch my latest video!! It’s all about a grip routine - ua-cam.com/video/7gEyZth-dwg/v-deo.htmlsi=6OdawN-sAoqt7So1

  • @williammacauley5498
    @williammacauley5498 8 місяців тому +1

    I used this today along with the John Daly’s secret of gripping down on the on the club!! Excellent tips!!

    • @TimSuttonGolf
      @TimSuttonGolf 5 місяців тому

      tis indeed a JD secret. His other secret is using a cigarette.. Left shoulder under cigarette (backswing), right shoulder under cigarette (through swing)! Try it with a tee in your mouth if you don't have a ciggy handy! haha Cheers! - Yo Alex, try this JD cigarette/tee in the mouth drill, it is a winner!

  • @dannyarmes4214
    @dannyarmes4214 11 місяців тому +1

    Deffo trying this one tomorrow on the course

    • @AlexElliottGolf
      @AlexElliottGolf  11 місяців тому +1

      Yes Danny!!! Love to hear that you are!!

    • @dannyarmes4214
      @dannyarmes4214 10 місяців тому

      @AlexElliottGolf play at north shore Friday after watching this video this 100% work well for me anyway had my slice under control more of a fade now I only had 3 bad shot all round and I ended up getting prizes for best front 9 and best over all score and a close to the pin thanks again Alex love the content

  • @steveschwab922
    @steveschwab922 11 місяців тому +2

    Great video!

  • @Benito-l5k
    @Benito-l5k 10 місяців тому

    As a new golfer, what equipment do you recommend getting to train at home?

    • @AlexElliottGolf
      @AlexElliottGolf  10 місяців тому +1

      In the past i used speed sticks, or things that help with flexibility and rotation, all this will help contribute to improving your swing

  • @jacobdemeester4457
    @jacobdemeester4457 5 місяців тому

    I’ve recently changed how I grip the club. I have 3 rounds in the 70s since all in a row

  • @mixmastamaori3931
    @mixmastamaori3931 11 місяців тому +1

    Another way is to grip the club from behind your front hip with head resting on ground. Can be a little easier for some people to align face with grip

  • @JiKimbo
    @JiKimbo 11 місяців тому

    Love the hi Vis vest Alex! 😂
    If you could do something about dealing with tension in the swing that would be great!

    • @AlexElliottGolf
      @AlexElliottGolf  11 місяців тому +1

      Hahaha it means you can really see me hahah

  • @RogerChristenson-mf2nm
    @RogerChristenson-mf2nm 8 місяців тому

    Can use this setup for your irons as well.?

  • @dennissvitak5475
    @dennissvitak5475 10 місяців тому +2

    I put jumbo grips on my clubs perhaps 20 years ago. My game improved by several shots per round. It was like swinging baseball bats. MUCH more control. Highly recommended.

    • @TimSuttonGolf
      @TimSuttonGolf 5 місяців тому

      I use Winn Dritac 2.0 standard size grips on all of my clubs. They are bigger than normal grips and the tack means you don't need to use a glove as they are so sticky! I totally recommend them!

    • @dennissvitak5475
      @dennissvitak5475 5 місяців тому +1

      @@TimSuttonGolf - I am an old man, with a strong, fluid swing. I went golfing yesterday with some friends of a friend, on a new course. They don't have gold tees, and we were told that seniors use the reds. OMG. Short course...the LONGEST par four was 310, one of the par 5's was 430. I was bombing drives 250-280. It was fun. We played a scramble format, and by the 10th hole, they kept their drivers in the bag!

  • @paulward4299
    @paulward4299 4 місяці тому

    This advice aligns perfectly with Harvey Penick's Little Red Book. Different way to arrive there, but same result.

  • @garylovejoy1432
    @garylovejoy1432 11 місяців тому

    Great video how many hours per day do you practice

    • @AlexElliottGolf
      @AlexElliottGolf  11 місяців тому

      I try and do a little but not much I would say 1 hour a week I wish I could do more

  • @ParawayGolf
    @ParawayGolf 11 місяців тому

    Well this seems like an interesting new thing to try out. When you do stage one with an iron, is it just the toe on the ground like you did with the driver so that the shaft stays upright? Or should the head be more level on the ground?

    • @AlexElliottGolf
      @AlexElliottGolf  9 місяців тому +1

      Hi! I will try and cover this in an upcoming video 🙌🏼

    • @ParawayGolf
      @ParawayGolf 9 місяців тому

      @@AlexElliottGolf Thanks Alex! Keep up the great work. Have you ever considered filming on the course and putting these tips into play??

  • @TheCampsies
    @TheCampsies 10 місяців тому +1

    So a two and a half knuckle lead hand grip with V on trail hand points to trail shoulder - as recommended by tens of thousands of pros for decades and decades?

    • @AlexElliottGolf
      @AlexElliottGolf  10 місяців тому +1

      Yes i will try and cover this in another video, great question! Oh and thanks for tuning into the videos I appreciate it 🙌🏼

  • @johnstankovic4935
    @johnstankovic4935 6 місяців тому

    Do we use a different grip for irons?

  • @Mike70005
    @Mike70005 10 місяців тому

    A suggestion: Wear dark shoes. When you show us the straight down player view it is Difficult to distinguish your glove from your shoe because they're both bright white. See time mark 2:11 as example. Changing the color of the shoes (or the glovel so they contrast would eliminate this.
    Again thanks for all your videos.

  • @matty_1337-c7u
    @matty_1337-c7u 2 місяці тому

    Best advice in the game, cuz

  • @ianhaddock6834
    @ianhaddock6834 10 місяців тому

    279?is that carry or total? I've been practising the John rahm driver set up you did in another video and carry seems to be similar but overall distance was around 270...way up on previous, plus switched to the Wilson lp2 driver which has cured my slice

  • @philgrimes2968
    @philgrimes2968 11 місяців тому

    So you dont interlock Trail hand little finger and lead hand index?? Just looks like you rest it on?

    • @AlexElliottGolf
      @AlexElliottGolf  9 місяців тому +1

      Hi! I will try and cover this in an upcoming video 🙌🏼

  • @DASH1ful
    @DASH1ful 10 місяців тому

    well, yes. a player should always hold the club with their left hand; and, look at the ball, as they step up to the ball. it sets the head and the hands in position; and, pressure on the ground with the right foot sets the hip back and gets the hip turning. it may, also, help to position the left hand in a high position, as you place your right hand on the grip. this enables the right elbow to position itself below the left elbow, at address. and, crucially, the left hand should be in a high enough position to make the necessary downwards rotation of the hand, in the waggle, that hogan advises in five lessons. he, also, tells us that the backswing is just simply an extension of the waggle. so, it therefore follows that the takeaway has an added dimension to it. the area around the extensor digiti minimi tendon, in the left hand, makes the downwards rotation of the hand; and, this creates the arc of the club. the club is then returned to the ball by pressing in with the wrist joint. the heel pad of the hand etc. resists against the wrist joint and the two react against one another. in the waggle, the digiti minimi and flexor retinaculum work as antagonistic opposites. that may sound like unnecessary terminology; but, it is important to remember that the digiti minimi and the flexor retinaculum are connected. when the heel pad and the wrist joint react against one another, as the club is returned to the ball, in the waggle, it adds an extra dimension: both the digiti minimi and the flexor retinaculum become fully activated. in the takeaway the area around the extensor digiti minimi presses forwards, creating the arc; and, the wrist joint supplements this by pushing back. the area around the digiti minimi is fully extended when the club is max left, towards the top of the backswing. the wrist joint completes the backswing by pushing back. and, of course, there is no danger of the heel pad pressing too far forwards in the takeaway. when the flexor retinaculum is fully activated the area around the extensor digiti minimi can't press too far forwards in the takeaway. the biggest problem is that it is quite difficult for a lot of golfers to position their hands in a high enough position to create downwards rotation with the left hand in, waggle. but, there is a simple little trick that a player can keep up their sleeve to enable the hands to be set in a high enough position. just simply use the weight of the club to press the handle against the heel pad of the left hand.

  • @MrDutchharry
    @MrDutchharry 10 місяців тому

    looks just like Ben Hogans grip (lesson 1 in 'five modern fundamentals of golf')

  • @SilverJ56
    @SilverJ56 11 місяців тому

    Thank you!! I'll do it!

  • @chrishoward8500
    @chrishoward8500 5 місяців тому +1

    The description says you didn’t stop slicing until you sued Adam Scott. Time to call my lawyers.

  • @SheerLuckHolmesAz
    @SheerLuckHolmesAz 11 місяців тому

    OK... a question. I am 72, recently retired, taking up golf again having not played in 10+ years, not that I ever played well. Videoing my swing I see that I get an adequate trailing hip turn in backswing. Going forward my hip turn stops at address position as club contacts ball, then starts turning again after ball leaves club face. While practice swinging I get a full smooth hip rotation through entire sequence. I even have belt buckle at 45 degrees to target at contact, if there was a ball there, but when actually hitting a ball, the belt buckle is straight at the ball and stopped. What can I do?

    • @AlexElliottGolf
      @AlexElliottGolf  10 місяців тому

      Yes i will try and cover this in another video, great question! Oh and thanks for tuning into the videos I appreciate it 🙌🏼

  • @garybrandt4241
    @garybrandt4241 9 місяців тому

    Does it get any simpler than that?

  • @derrickrocco
    @derrickrocco 4 місяці тому

    Brilliant 🎯

  • @pedroc6823
    @pedroc6823 9 місяців тому +2

    A perfect example of making something simple harder than it needs to be. This is what constantly happens with You Tube instructors.

  • @spakuloid
    @spakuloid 10 місяців тому

    This should be lesson 1 for every golfer.

  • @pawpaw0906
    @pawpaw0906 10 місяців тому

    What happened to the Vardon grip?

  • @kenbrown2808
    @kenbrown2808 11 місяців тому

    I do that with my trailing hand. now I have to work at it if I want to hit a fade.

    • @AlexElliottGolf
      @AlexElliottGolf  11 місяців тому

      Love that you have a tactic!!!

    • @John-p6c4c
      @John-p6c4c 11 місяців тому

      I have been playing golf for over 40 years.. I have done this grip for over 40 years!! Cannot believe that with all the golf instruction out there, in books, videos or UA-cam..that people still don’t know how to grip a club!!

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 11 місяців тому

      @@John-p6c4c a lot of people don't get actual instruction.

  • @ltsmash254
    @ltsmash254 11 місяців тому

    This is essentially the same grip ben hogan recommends in the 5 fundamentals of golf. It also helped me get rid of my slice.

    • @AlexElliottGolf
      @AlexElliottGolf  11 місяців тому

      Of course!!!

    • @Anth_D
      @Anth_D 11 місяців тому

      He had it in the palm to avoid his hook.

  • @berylwright3301
    @berylwright3301 11 місяців тому

    One to try🎉

  • @michealpruitt8599
    @michealpruitt8599 10 місяців тому

    Not everyone is built the same, or swings the same, I've used a strong grip for years and I have been a 4 handicap for years!!

  • @angelaamoroso3279
    @angelaamoroso3279 6 місяців тому

    Wow! You are really radical on so many golf topics. Do I dare attempt any of these (major) changes? Fortunatel I do not slice. But your video on hitting fairway woods was a revelation!

  • @timothywcoster2212
    @timothywcoster2212 7 місяців тому

    It works good

  • @thatQiao
    @thatQiao 4 місяці тому

    4:57 Summary

  • @alexbrown6624
    @alexbrown6624 3 місяці тому

    Why do l feel my club rotate in my grip through my swing ?

    • @AlexElliottGolf
      @AlexElliottGolf  3 місяці тому

      I have a video on this coming this week so keep a look out!

    • @alexbrown6624
      @alexbrown6624 3 місяці тому

      @@AlexElliottGolf cheers 🍻

  • @agreenjinjo
    @agreenjinjo 5 місяців тому

    good content to fall asleep to

  • @andyfrizzell4352
    @andyfrizzell4352 8 місяців тому +1

    Top tier instructions

  • @derbscott2687
    @derbscott2687 10 місяців тому

    Would this technique also work with your irons???

    • @AlexElliottGolf
      @AlexElliottGolf  10 місяців тому

      Yeah it could do!

    • @derbscott2687
      @derbscott2687 10 місяців тому

      @@AlexElliottGolf thanks for feedback…keep up the great content…

  • @DM-w5o
    @DM-w5o 5 місяців тому +1

    While every member of my foursome waits for me to take my grip, even before addressing the ball.

  • @JohnNoble-gb1jb
    @JohnNoble-gb1jb 7 місяців тому

    Let's slow the game even more. Har Har Har

  • @lawrencesargent1392
    @lawrencesargent1392 10 місяців тому

    You should be.an expert on THE GOLFING MACHINE BY HOMER KELLEY if you want to understand all answers to any golf question.

  • @anthonytarango9831
    @anthonytarango9831 11 місяців тому

    Literally just me questioning every grip I just played today 😢

  • @stevel6895
    @stevel6895 2 місяці тому

    Wearing a white glove with the camera angle from above, over the white shoes? I can't see any knuckle at all...

  • @Ducebogies
    @Ducebogies 11 місяців тому +1

    Simple, repeatable, and one less thing to worry about in the swing,

  • @jeffdemuro4208
    @jeffdemuro4208 11 місяців тому

    My biggest problem is lifting my head. I think it's because I lose so many balls

  • @eddiebrown687
    @eddiebrown687 10 місяців тому +2

    The game is hard enough without taking 5 mins to grip the club before every shot.......plus try to remember all this with 3 other people staring at you.

    • @Bennettb12
      @Bennettb12 6 місяців тому +1

      It takes you 5 minutes? Maybe you are doing it wrong - takes me about 10 seconds

    • @JonathanPajakLensCulture
      @JonathanPajakLensCulture 6 місяців тому

      Takes 2 seconds hahah. I do this with every shot lol love it

    • @JonathanPajakLensCulture
      @JonathanPajakLensCulture 6 місяців тому

      @@Bennettb12literally

  • @patrickmccabe3241
    @patrickmccabe3241 10 місяців тому

    ok

  • @davemessenger1944
    @davemessenger1944 11 місяців тому

    This doesn't work if you have short fingers! I know from experience!!

  • @Birdie-Putt
    @Birdie-Putt 8 місяців тому

    Leaky Slice.

  • @kenlynch6332
    @kenlynch6332 11 місяців тому

    🏌🏌🏌🏌🏌

  • @dennissvitak5475
    @dennissvitak5475 10 місяців тому

    Going through the elaborate routine will take a LONG time per shot. Not in my foursome. I would be all OVER anyone that tried this.