Arceus felt more like a breath of fresh air for the franchise than scarlet and violet did and it had less performance issues. And I connected to the characters and story more, the highlight being the part with the growlithe
Arceus was the first game since I have bought since USUM, convinced me to buy a switch and all, it’s the most fun I personally have had on a Pokémon game since I have been old enough to judge what is good and not good. Has its bugs but deserves a lot of respect, helped a nearly 30 year old live out the Pokémon hunter dream from my childhood
Loved arceus. Definitely my favorite pokemon game. It's Story, characters, and quests were really good. Plus with sinnoh being my favorite region, I loved seeing its history
The problems I had with it are mainly to do with the way the game is presented more so then the gameplay, cause the battling and catching had never been better
I agree. I finished the game hours ago and love the story. The Scarlet and Violet, yeah, no. I don't have a legend of Zelda feeling as I want to get the same feeling of it like Legend Arceus
@@Rexx2345 even kamado stronger than geeta sigh , i mean shes a champion and supposed to be stronger while villain is unpredictable. they can be easy , normal or hard.
Arceus hands down. S/V is awesome and having a blast but PLA reignited my love for a series I’ve loved played and watched for 25 years since I was 10 years old. I still go back to it to shiny hunt. I love that game.
In terms of story, that's a tough one for me. Arceus felt kind of like a story that was being told to us. From the moment it began, you could feel a sense of tension. It certainly wins in terms of atmosphere. SV, on the other hand, releases the tension a bit and is definitely a story we're experiencing but it's also given us a lot to ruminate on, especially in regards to the DLC. It also made me feel more attached to the characters.
That's an easy question to answer. YES! Yes it is. Legends: Arceus is better than Scarlet and Violet in literally every aspect except the maybe the twist ending. It plays better, it looks better, the world is better, than Pokemon in the overworld are better. It amazing the think Scarlet and Violet came after Legends: Arceus because it's such a massive downgrade in every aspect.
For me Scarlet and violet, ignoring the bugs and performance issues, felt like such a great development to the pokemon games since XY. The writing was good, they didnt entirely just shoehorn it to be for kids, all the characters had so much depth and all the designs were well researched tbh. PLA is def the better game in terms of performance and new game antics, but as a pokemon fan returning to the games after years, the new mechanisms did throw me off for quite a while and the lack of human interaction made it feel empty stimes. And the plot devices like being stuck in the past, fighting the frenzied nobles and all felt rather forced. Nevertheless it was a very enjoyable experience and I hope Gamefreak goes in the direction they're going with rn except not rush anything anymore.
For me it’s fairly simple: I gave up on Legends Arceus while in the 4th area because I got bored of doing the same stuff over and over and just didn’t feel any connection. I never had a fully consistent team of Pokémon because it encouraged switching them out all the time to get new research. In comparison I’ve already finished SV twice and I’m half-way through a 3rd, and I’ve used completely different teams each time. I love all of the characters and the story that goes along with it. Despite how poorly optimised it is, it’s better in every other regard for me
Exactly my problem with the game The story is the only thing worthwhile to invest in, and the Hisuian Pokemon. Otherwise it's just catch this or catch that Pokemon to make any kind of progress
If they just brought the catching mechanic, shiny sound, and Frostbite instead of Freeze status condition Scarlet and Violet would be great. Also being able to turn off animations to speed up the battle would be nice.
Scarlet and Violet are bad games even perfectly optimized. They are EMPTY games after you finish the story. A big world full of nothing. Pokemon Legends Arceus is a fantastic game in general not only in terms of Pokemon standards.
Arcesus despite the linear mission set up break up the basic repetition of Pokémon league. Past version of sinnoh and meeting character ancestors is a breath of fresh air in an nostalgic way. Pokémon are an actual threat to you as the trainer and the Pokédex mission push for a new way of playing.
For me I personally I prefer Legends Arceus for only two reasons, free throwing PokeBalls (literally the one feature I wanted in the games for years) and faster battling animations (now this doesn’t mean battle system as I’m honestly neutral about both of them but just imagine the speed & smoothness of entering and leaving and actually battling in Legends Arceus, now think of that but the battle system is like how Scarlet & Violet is. If they did that in Scarlet & Violet then it could’ve made a good argument for me to prefer that over Legends Arceus but it didn’t). The other stuff about those two games I’m personally neutral about, even though I can make logical decisions on noticing which game is better at certain things my overall enjoyment and honestly what I care about is just neutral
@@kelvinvelez1053 fairly good honestly, I say on par to how good Pokemon Black & White and Black 2 & White 2 are on a comparable level (as on a technical standard the Gen 5 games were the best story written Pokemon games before Legends Arceus and Scarlet & Violet were a thing with I will say that now currently Scarlet & Violet are now the best story written Pokemon games). I say the downside you will need to complete the post game of Legend’s Arceus to get the full story (especially one of the hardest battles in Pokemon to date) since well you can’t get Arceus until you complete the post game anyway so similar to how Sword & Shield treated its box Legendary Pokemon (though unlike Sword & Shield with way more depth). Why that is a downside is because depending on the player a potential player might not like completing post game stuff and only focus on the main game which that type of player might find distasteful if they don’t get the full story in the main story of the game. But that’s honestly the only downside to Legends Arceus story, the only other downside is if you already know you are not a fan of the general Pokemon storylines then I lead to why I used the Gen 5 games for a comparable storyline as it’s to show that it’s definitely one of the better ones but I don’t think it would be strong enough to convince someone that doesn’t like a Pokemon storyline to actually properly like the storyline (they might at the very least say it’s definitely better compared to most Pokemon games but compared to other games in general they will definitely heavily nitpick it)
@@kelvinvelez1053 other than story based ones which there isn’t really that many of them then no not really (battling in this games is not a heavy focus since it doesn’t have multiplayer features at all and focus you to complete the PokeDex so you can get Arceus which is super easy to do in these games since every single Pokemon for the Dex is available in this game) plus because how the battle system works in this game being fairly different since instead the normal turn based system it’s heavily based on how fast your actual Pokemon are as the faster your Pokemon is the more turns you can have to Atk (as you can get to up to 4 turns to Atk before even your opponent can get even a single chance to Atk) so theses battle can be done pretty fast very quickly especially when you start using the move styles (you have Strong style which increases the power of the move you are using but it would make your Pokemon go slower making more likely for you to lose a turn to Atk, you then have Agile style which will decrease the power of the move you used but will make your Pokemon faster making it more likely get more turns to Atk. However no matter which style you decided to use both styles will takeaway 2 PP off you Pokémon’s move that you used any of those styles on).
@@kelvinvelez1053 oh when it comes to battling wild Pokemon that’s all completely optional as you don’t actually need to battle Pokemon to catch Pokemon in this game (though depending on your own personal play style you might still think it’s easier to battle Pokemon to catch a Pokemon)
My first Pokemon game was Pokemon Violet, I bought it around the time the first DLC released. It's never crashed on me, i've only had a couple goofy bugs (mostly involving Myraidon landing in a janky corner). I had a blast playing it I still do. The DLC was great, though it didn't leave much to grind after catching the Legendaries. Legends Arceus is my 2nd mainline Pokemon game, and it really has blown me away so far. I love everything from the crafting system to the leveling system to the Dark Souls style boss battles. It makes me want another game in the same style, from the same time period (150-200 years ago) but in a different region. Both games are really great in my opinion. The story in both games have surprisingly mature themes for Pokemon, but I appreciate their willingness to go there. Scarlet/Violet is an excellent introduction to the franchise, where Legends Acreus is a more challenging offering for gamers of any age.
One thing Arceus has over SV is side quests, but SV had more trainer battles. Arceus has more interesting catch mechanics as well, and more of an emphasis on catching and researching over battling. If SV had more research tasks like Arceus and more side quests, it would have been the better entry.
LEGENDS with an open world and online play it would have been the best pokemon game ever and nobody would be playing S/V right now. PLA is just better in all ways when it comes to gameplay.
I was initially going for Violet because Miraidon looks so cool. But then I saw Koraidon run and thought "that's a meme worthy dragon bike" and it won me over. So the graphical issues of SV didn't bother me that much. The main things that did annoy me are the times the game puts me in the same place as another pokemon WHILE battling a pokemon, particularly Tauros and Cyclizar when I'm shiny hunting them.
I really enjoyed both games. However I feel like scarlet/violet have better replay value. Legends I'm hesitant to restart because of all the required catching where in violet and scarlet I can prepare and send over a team to use and it doesn't matter if I catch everything or not.
Scarlet and Violet are the first games.... I didn't have fun in. It's pretty boring other than shiny hunting. Legends Arceus however is an addiction! Definitely the first game I've felt alive and immersed since Pokemon Go in 2016. Just being able to chuck Pokeballs manually just feels right! Additionally, alphas create a horror-ish vibe to the game if one isn't careful. Also the shiny sound is pure dopamine and ear candy! Overall, Legends Arceus feels more complete despite fewer Pokemon.
The first few hours into scarlet i hated it but it has grown on me. I still dislike the way the gyms are set up and the forced exp share making things too easy.
Technically, Vollo isn't the first to break past 6 Pokemon. Ghetsis challenges you with his 6 Pokemon immediately after you fought N with his 6 Pokemon, including a Legendary AFTER you catch your own Legendary in Black and White.
I'm a casual player. I care not for rank or online battles. So I care more about what I get in game, or in this case: Post-Game Legends: Volo Story/Fight. Legendary Hunting. Completing the Dex to fight Arceus S/V: 1 time rematch of Gym. School Tournament, and the 4 Ruin Pokemon. Yeah I got more enjoyment out of Arceus as I got something out of the Pokedex rather than just a shiny charm: I got to fight God.
I love the battle with Arceus and his theme is one of my favourite Pokémon OSTs which feels odd since I hear a lot of people aren’t huge fans of Arceus’ theme but I think his theme in legends sounds so good even before it gets to the end of the fight where the music glitches out. I wish more was done with that like the game itself stutters and arceus sometimes looks like his beta sprite or something.
I think the let's go feature is pretty interesting and it doesn't take as long as you'd think, 3 laps around the little town before mesagoza (maybe 5 mins) will evolve those mons and because of that I was able to get a level 19 pawmot and a really early brambleghast that both helped out a ton in my hardcore nuzlocke, plus I'd argue it's better than friendship evolutions tbh which take way longer and are super irritating to track.
Friendship evos take less time in ScaVi. I caught a riolu, washed it 6 times back to back, and evolved it with candy immediately. Took maybe 3 minutes beginning to end. Whereas I found the lets go a lot more buggy, took over 10 minutes for one of them
Pokemon Legends Arceus was a really fun Main Series game the catching was fun,the battles were fun especially the gimmick of the styles,The New Evolutions and Hisuin Forms,and Sidequests. Pokemon Legends Arceus is a better experience then Pokemon Scarlet in my opinion. Pokemon Scarlet isn't optimized well I mean sheesh the Open World the framerate drops so many times
Violet and Scarlet has too much going against it compared to Legends the visuals look "nicer" sure but when performance greatly suffers the greater visuals are not worth it. The story is Arceus much like the Gen 4 games is epic and I love the Edo period setting of what would later be Sinnoh and the world feels more lived in
sword and shield for me is the best. its because it makes me remember the old times and I don't like a motorcycle pokemon lol. I like the Pokemon Legends Arceus but the theme of the game is like the old version of lifetime like the years of the samurai which is way too different from the pokemon that I've been playing since I was 10 years old. Its been 24years now and the improved version of that game give me a better experience. I hope they bring back the old pokemon like Cubone and blastoise and they should add online battle with other trainer while they are farming on the field.
What would be cool is if they added the same mass release mechanic as Legends arecus. As in mass releasing a bunch of pokemon hatched from eggs and then receiving supplies for tms in return
Legends Arceus is unique and has no bad frame rate and glitches as of the updates released after launch. Versus Scarlet and Violet which has a still bad frame rate and occasional glitches. I hope they don't rush the next game and take a long hiatus because I don't want to see another terrible launch that could ruin the franchise as we know it.
After I played Legends: Arceus I genuinely argued with myself that it may have been my new favorite Pokemon game. The story was way more interesting than recent Pokemon stories and it was really interesting exploring Husui. However, after beating both Scarlet and Violet completely and working my way through Violet for a second play-through with a specialized team I've gotta say 100% that these new games are my new favorites in the series. EVEN WITH THE HORRIBLE PERFORMANCE I absolutely love all the QoL and the intertwining stories. If Game Freak can do this again on the next-gen Nintendo console but with better performance AND VOICE ACTING then I think the series will be moving in the right direction.
if violet had the whole game like the starter area up to the school where you feel free to explore anywhere from the start it would be an amzing game,i truly felt like this game might be amazing until i got past that stage and saw how closed off everything felt after. instead it became a linear go left or right
Legends Arceus battle system other than agile style and Strong is the best system. Quest the difficulty of Legends Arceus is superior to all other Pokemon games. The freedom of movement during battle being attacked by Pokemon crafting the choice to evolve system, catching system Pokedex all of those things are Superior in should have been included in SV
I really like both of these games. SV I was having issues with the game crash multiple times, vs Arceus. I'd personally love to see a fusion between the games. I personally prefer the smaller worlds design of Arceus rather than the fully open world of SV, I know that this isn't the popular opinion, but heck it is my opinion. The real issue with Arceus was how repetitive the game got, no Gyms/Special Side quests/really strong post game kinda hurt the game. I really enjoyed the crafting, and indoors aspect of the game. Breeding in SV was quite nice and simple. Let's be fair though I would be quite satisfied with a re-release of HeartGold and SoulSilver, Sun and Moon, and in general the older games. Arceus had a real issue of not having DLC.
I like how we can choose how to catch Pokémon, the quest that brig us more into the world and with a lot more interact. Also, we all probably want the less stress of having sparkles.
From a tech enthusiast's perspective, Legends:Arceus has the bigger W since it deals with less jank but SV wins in terms of how they reinvented the franchise's formula big time, so it's more like a 51/49 when it comes to how much I enjoyed playing them since I don't have anything else to do in Legends: Arceus except testing mons from SV can evolve to their Hisuian forms, but 6-7 star raids are still a lot of fun even if there are only 2 of them every day.
Take out the open world then how exactly did SV reinvent the franchise ??where as legends arceusr completely changed the way you battle, catch, and interact with Pokémon n the world around you
@@tempestfrost4213 valid point, but you forgot the fact it's a 51/49, so either game can be on advantage since there's no major advantage outside of which game gets the 2% advantage.
I loved both games for different reasons. SV’s open world was a completely ‘new’ experience and the nonlinearity made these games feel like it could be replayed multiple times and have a differing experience each time. The story was also refreshingly new. On the other hand I loved the art style of PLA and the reimagining of a beloved region that sets the basis for future potential stories of other regions (Johto/Kanto & Sinjoh Ruins anyone?). Although repetitive, I enjoyed the story and climax of PLA. I also enjoyed the additional interactions with mons in the open world and the fact that battles are not required for capture. It’s as if they perfected the formula from Pokémon Go. This translates to a new experience that is more strategic than the traditional catching mechanic. All in all, both games have their unique charm. But PLA edges out ever so slightly today (but that could change with DLC).
Wow I had a completely different experience with SV than you did, I felt like it was linear as hell, like there's no level scaling for the gyms or anything else so it's unless you wanna go back and just one shot everything in previous gyms then you're pretty much left with doing them in a specific order, I hated how you were given the box legendary and how it was basically your HM slave, not so much because the BOX LEGENDARY was relegated to a HM slave but because I felt like it overshadowed my entire team without even being on it, didn't make it a very pleasant experience, especially since its so prevalent in the story because of how big and empty the map is I'm either forced to use it to make traversale better or I'm forced to suffer through the slog fest of simply walking through the region, no matter what I do there's no avoiding an issue cause others just take its place Plus the game just looks horrible to me, PLA is kinda bad in some ways but the art style is keeping it from becoming a negative, SV just looks like they've taken assets from multiple different games from multiple different console generations, plus there's just no fun PvE or single player content to do besides the typical story stuff, like no battle frontier, no quests like in PLA, it honestly feels so empty and devoid of any enjoyment while PLA I can enjoy for the most part
I would have a better time on sv if normal gameplay didnt lead to so many bugs. I only found pl:a bugs when i looked for them where sv just feels like a public demo.
I like the story and characters more in SV…I like the friend group especially Arven, and for the first time I truly cared about the box legendary because he was with us the entire game and all it’s cutscenes showed off it’s adorable personality The story was really good in Arceus, but i didn’t feel personally attached to any particular character. I liked them, just didn’t have that connection like with Arven or Koraidon. I do think the gameplay allows you to create a deeper bond with your Pokémon tho, because of the dangers of the outside your Pokémon are your only line of defense against everything that seemingly wants to kill you. The trainer battles are really tough too, so when I just barely managed to win a 3 on 1, it felt like I was in the anime where you can win by sheer determination..By the end I was really attached to my typhlosion since he had been there through my struggles since the beginning, and when I got kicked out of the village my very first thought was “at least I still have my Pokémon”. I had a overall better time with arceus. I love sv, and it’s in my top 3 but the only thing holding it back is the poor performance/glitches, and the things not brought from arceus like the smooth catching system.
I love the open world idea of s/v, it makes for the best iteration of Pokémon ever created. But something about arceus makes it the best game game freak/Nintendo has ever produced for the Pokémon franchise. I loved the focus being on catching rather than battling, I LOVE the hisuian forms and I love the graphics. May not have been the most impressive but the art style is crazy good. Also that sinnoh was my favorite region next to kanto (and that’s only cuz I’m an og r/b/y player)
PLA was new and different which I liked for sure but I def like scarlet /violet better. I got burned out on arceus fast, It felt like a chore to finish the dex which you really needed to do to complete the game. Completing the dex to get the shiny charm which much more fun in violet to me
SV. Arceus has too few battles for me and too small of a dex and variety for replays and shiny hunting. Although I liked how the leveling up mons in a dex increases that species shiny odds.
I disagree that it had too small of a dex. Not every Pokémon game needs a million different Pokémon to catch. (I know there’s only slightly more than 1000 and nowhere near a million Pokémon yet but my point still stands)
I’m currently playing arceus again after playing the hell out of violet and to be honest, I think there (arceus and s/v) are probably both equally good but there are major difference that I prefer between arceus and s/v.
Having played neither yet but knowing a lot about them, I'd say it comes down to preference. Arceus is more of a spin off focussed on lore and history of pokemon with cool new features and approach, whereas SV is ur standard mainline game but with the open world, quest, and coop twist. I think Arceus definitely stands strong tho, whether its better or not, just because of less bugs, better performance, and trying something new.
I honestly really liked both games a lot but I think PLA has the slight edge for me cause I love the concept of going back to ancient sinnoh and loved the new mechanics of the game.
I will say I prefer Scarlet & Violet more than Arceus since I speculated that if Arceus has some of the features that S&V has it would probably have the same issues like it's future predecessor has. Like how if the game were to be played up to 4 players it would have the same performance issues as well. Not to mentioned how the lack of battles (meaning other AI trainer battles) aren't as prevalent in the game like S&V. Honestly Arceus is more showcase for older fans who grew up playing the same Pokemon game throughout the years having to just roamed around and just catching Pokemon and somewhat taking in the story seriously whereas S&V tries to differentiate both of those things making it feel more like a true Pokemon game. While I do love both of these games they aren't exactly my personal favorites, I do happened to like S&V a bit more than Arceus mainly for all the new Pokemon here. However that being said Gen 7 SM/USUM will always be my personal favorite best Pokemon game to me.
I feel like both games are still strong games in the main series even with their issues that it’s really hard to say which is better and with some of the feedback the same are getting, make me hope that it’s going to go towards projects like Gen 10 and make them mind blowing
I think Arecus is leaps and bounds better. Scarlet and Violet feels like a Ps3 type era game. It tries to have this open world but just does nothing interesting with it other than just having Pokemon all over it. There's no real reason to explore beyond finding whatever Pokemon you need. Arecus suffers from this a little but at the very least it has quest givers, whisps to collect and Alpha pokemon which have WAY more appeal than the god awful terra system. Story was much better especially since it helped explore the lore of Pokemon a lot more. I think people like Scarlet and Violets story because of the last two hours when the game finally decided to be intersting and the Professor battles were cool. I think people ride that high and call it a day. The story in it was extremely repetetive, each arc was just doing each scene over and over and over again. Gym path was a generic story as it ever is about how you are gonna be the best, Team Star was just penny debreifs you, lol not clavell, oh you beat me now I am gonna complain about being bullied. Which is fine, but it just got old after hearing the 2nd person complain. And I felt no connection to penny because she barely talks to you beyond giving you the same orders at each base. Arvins was the only one that felt like it was the actual stroy to the game as it at least was consistent and was the POLAR opposite of Team star. Where you learned more and more about him, his situation, what happened to his Mastiff and etc. Where team star basically just told you the same thing just from someone elses expirence. And it actually lead to being meaningful to the actual ending of the game. It's so crazy people say the story is so good but when you compare it to all the other games and B/W being the only other game with a decent story then anything that makes any small attempt seems amazing I guess...
My weird opinion is that I think arceus is objectively the better game- it's more polished, has a better gameplay experience, better UI and quality of life features, it's much smoother, and brought much more to the franchise in terms of experimentation. And yet...I've sunk significantly more time into SV. Maybe because it's the mainline game and has a bit more of a post game with the 7 star raids and competitive scene, but I've easily amassed over 90 hours and still going where I barely hit 65 in Arceus. Shiny hunting just wasn't enough to keep me engaged after finishing the post game. So overall I think I prefer SV, but Areceus is better.
I wouldn't even consider Scarlet and Violet an Open World game, it's basically just one huge Wild Area, if it was Open World than the story wouldn't dictate where you would be going or force you to go there.
The main issues I find with Scarlet and Violet is the fact that they're issues that were already resolved in past games or something you would think they would've dealt with by now. The performance is STILL garbage, despite... what is this, the 4th Pokemon game they've made? Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee was fine. They rushed ILCA to produce BDSP and that game doesn't shit itself during a sandstorm. You can't make the argument of "Well Let's Go and BDSP had simple graphics" because Scarlet and Violet ain't exactly top tier in that department either. The environments are butt ugly. If Legends Arceus had proper multiplayer. Co-op and Battles, I honestly wouldn't care for Scarlet/Violet. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it, but I wouldn't go beyond post game and maybe DLC.
I didn’t get PLA when it came out but I did play Violet on release. After playing V then PLA, I can say that there are definitely aspects that PLA does better (namely graphics and creativity), SV are better IMO. I think the story is the best in the series, the open world is great to just hang around and grind, and I prefer the traditional battle style rather than the agile/strong style stuff. I think they’re both good in their own right
My thoughts is if you care more about competitive battling with a traditional battle system and a somewhat more interesting than average story then Scarlet and Violet might be the game for you, if you care about exploration seeing how Pokémon interact with the world and having an actual new experience with a main series game Legends Arceus will be the better choice all in all Legends Arceus is the far superior game in my opinion and is a direction the Pokémon company should consider as an alternative for those who are tapped out of the run of the mill badge hunting scenarios Every game and yes I’m including Sun and moon in this has done for over 2 decades between BDSP, PLA and SV Legends Arceus is the standout game between the 3 and is the only one is still regularly play not counting Rescue Team DX anyway
The story in scarlet and violet is like a decent meal served in a cheap paper plate and plastic utensils. The meal might be decent but the entire school theme is a big turn off.
I like violet more but only slightly. Arceus was like a breath of fresh air but violet for me had a better story and what felt like more to do. However I really wish they had left the sound for shinies and being able to throw pokeballs at wild pokemon to catch them without battling
I just started getting into pokemon bc my kids are starting to get into it. I got them diamond for switch which for us is great. We are all pretty much newcomers though so i dunno how that game clicks with long time fans. All 3 of us are incredibly addicted to pokemon now and im on the fence about getting S&V or Arceus legends for us. Ill prob eventually get them both but for now im not sure which one to play first. The only thing that is making me nervous about S&V is the obvious performance issues. I dont think my kids will mind that much and i wont either if its just some graphic jank here and there, but still i also dont want to deal with a slideshow framerate. Any thoughts on which to try?
PLA was definitely way more polished. It has way more distinctive protagonist designs, way better locomotion and physics for both the characters and the ride Pokémon, and the graphics are better than SV as well. I prefer catching mons and the overall art-style of PLA compared to SV as well. But I love so many Gen 9 mons, along with the story and overall game content being way better in SV than PLA, and the soundtrack was better in SV imo, despite PLA OST being great as well. Overall, still had loads of fun with both, despite the numerous issues with both games :D
Arceus has more replay value because of the way you catch shinnies especially with the Mass Mass Outbreaks but both games are great. I’d argue that S/V has better characters and a more interesting map.
I found both average at best. Arceus had awesome ideas but poor execution with one of the most bland worlds I’ve ever seen and for scarlet and violet I didn’t like alot of the changes and technical issues and the new gimmick/mechanic was probably my least favorite
I think the answer really depends on your preferences and experiences. As a 35 years old man that is here trully since the begining, that insane "realism" and freedom of PLA's exploring and catching mechanicis is all that I could have asked for since my childhood, and It makes me love the game more than anything and replay it indefinitely. Simple like that. But, also, as a really obsessed fan of the main games, having the single best story of all gens (simple, a bit childish and silly sometimes, but so darn well written, with awesome characters, dialogues, and animations, for the first time since 3d era started), with that big open world, lots of amazing New mons to use.... How not to bem Thrilled? I could never pick a favorite, they both made me immensely happy for different reasons. The ideal world would be a New game with all these strenghts combined. I can see why anyone would prefer PLA and also SV, and I would simply agree with wherever they said! The decision ia really that personal, what one prefers
@Brandy Marie like I said, It depends on what you prefer. PLA is a single player and finite game, there's not a lot to do besides the main story, but it's the single best experience I ever had because of the capture method, the freedom of being able to just stealthly catch the mons without the annoying need of a battle, etc.... But SV, besides the unbelieable amount of glitches, is the best main game ever, plus the raids, online battling and etc. I collect ALL the versions, so I have them all. If you're in doubt, watch some gameplay videos! They can help you choose better. Ask me anything else if you want, too!
@Brandy Marie oh, and I forgot to mention that PLA is also funnier because it's kinda an action game as well! You can be hurt by the mons yourself, the boss battles are kinda "Dark Souls" vibe, you need to dodge and run a lot, and It is obviously something that you won't have on main series games.
@Brandy Marie Get Arceus. God I hope you chose Arceus. It's such a better path forward for the series. I'm in my thirties, and it's the closest we've gotten to the game of my dreams for Pokemon yet.
I still stand by my opinion that Legends Arceus is the better game. Better catching mechanics, better combat mechanics, better character movement, better shiny indicators, shiny sprites showing up in your storage box, more mount variety, better gliding mount experience, alpha Pokemon, one version of the game (no two version crap), performance is much better and overall stabilized. What does Scarlet and Violet do better? Better Pokedex, better open world exploration, more new Pokemon since it's a mainline game, better shiny odds experience overall and easier to hunt (unless you're colorblind), co-op, online battles, breeding and raiding. The issues in Scarlet and Violet may seem small, but many of them pile up to form a mountain of problems. The most annoying is trying to run away from a battle just to end up caught in another battle immediately after running away and having that sometimes loop anywhere between 2-5 times, depending on the location. Legends Arceus has very few annoying issues. I can't remember any of them as of this writing, but I'm sure there were some problems. Not enough to lower my opinion of it though.
To me the only things that Arceus has on Scarlet/Violet is the final boss battles, the catching mechanic and the shiny sound. However after both games.. I don’t wanna see the psyduck line for a while
I honestly were really unimpressed by legends arceus when it came out and decided to skip it, but after playing violet and experiencing its flaws I might give it a chance. I actually think it might do some things a lot better
I played +400 hours of Arceus Legends, pokedex completion and sidequests were really engaging also most NPCs stay in the game so you can always visit them. On the other side, I only played 80 hours of Pokemon Violet, yeah.... once you complete the pokedex and post game there is only raid events left which always have issues, also a lot of important NPCs just dissapear. Arceus Legends left me craving for more story and content, while Pokemon Violet makes me feel i have to pay extra money to get the real ending :/
Honestly I think not. Legends arceus only good thing to come out if it was hisuisn forms the catching mechanic and a taste of an open world experience. The story is garbage as you still are stuck in hisui with no way to return home. There’s no real villain to overcome so they made volo a twist villain when you least expect it. and no reason to fight the nobles other than plot progression. Scarelet and violet personality has better story better exploration and all and all better replayability. Both games have their long tutorial hand holding things where you’re forced to just walk for an hour before obtaining your Pokémon but that’s been a thing since gen 7 Yes I watched geriums video I agreed with most of his points
In terms of characters, Scarlet/Violet takes the win. Especially Team Star, my favorites. But in gameplay, I would go for Legends Arceus. It’s just so much more fun for me, I especially like that you can catch Pokémon without even fighting them. I very much enjoy hiding in the grass and luring Pokemon close then throwing the ball. I haven’t found a way to do that in Scarlet/Violet.
PLA is definitely not better than S&V for replayabilty for me. Pla is great if all you care about is shiny hunting and catching but for me PLA was just a grocery store i went to collect what i wanted moved them to home than into S&V where i have so many ways to use them. Id love them to take the quality of life features from PLA and add them to games not hyperfocused on just catching. Also this comparison is prior to DLC which i think adds alot
Not a fan of mainline games, played let's go, shield and didn't do that much in violet (only like 2 titans n a bunch of pokemon leveled up n evolved) I legit dropped Violet and went to finish Digimon World Next Order pff. Really have to be in a mood to play so no idea when I'll play more Arceus is definitely my favourite "mainline" game, it's the first one I ever bought too with Mystery Dungeon Rescue Team DX as fav spinoff (played red on an emolator years ago on like half the speed but still loved so had to get the remake n I love the art style of it) I've somehow spent tons of hours exploring the Arceus world and yet somehow still found new areas in it pff. I had a blast playing the game and thought I finished it before the updates for it were released but I later found out that there's more stuff with Volo n stuff but after I borrowed it to my best friend so didn't finish that yet. I love the crafting feature and putting all my savings into the guy with inventory upgrades pfff. Wild pokemon feel like such a threat, sneaking around and throwing pokeballs but if they break out you run just far enough that they leave you alone and repeat pff. I loved sending my pokemon out to get resources n stuff, I'd go get as many lost items as possible on a map n had memorized each part of the first area so I knew exactly when to turned where to gather tumblestones (is that what they were called?) while in violet I'm legit like okay LETS GO KILL THEM ALL while I check my phone notifications as my pokemon get exp. Honestly wish that they would follow you and fight like that in Arceus cuz you can let them out but they just stay in that spot even tho they have walking animations and stuff.... Hecc now I want the game back, guess I better go finish shield n return it to my best friend to get Arceus bacc pff
SV and PLA both have their issues and glitches but their end results are far from the absolute worse they could've been and I will stand with that personal opinion
Arceus felt more like a breath of fresh air for the franchise than scarlet and violet did and it had less performance issues. And I connected to the characters and story more, the highlight being the part with the growlithe
I wish we had voice acting
@@THGMR-ox7sdI kinda wanted it like Zelda games where most talking scenes don’t have voices, but major cut scenes did
Same
@@THGMR-ox7sd imo I feel like it would be wacky now. idk I feel like it would
Pity there wasn't really much to do post game. You don't even find out if your character can return to the future.
Arceus was the first game since I have bought since USUM, convinced me to buy a switch and all, it’s the most fun I personally have had on a Pokémon game since I have been old enough to judge what is good and not good.
Has its bugs but deserves a lot of respect, helped a nearly 30 year old live out the Pokémon hunter dream from my childhood
100%
Loved arceus. Definitely my favorite pokemon game. It's Story, characters, and quests were really good. Plus with sinnoh being my favorite region, I loved seeing its history
The problems I had with it are mainly to do with the way the game is presented more so then the gameplay, cause the battling and catching had never been better
I agree. I finished the game hours ago and love the story. The Scarlet and Violet, yeah, no. I don't have a legend of Zelda feeling as I want to get the same feeling of it like Legend Arceus
Legends Arceus had awesome catching mechanics + the game went more smoothly. I love PLA
When play SV, I found myself missing the PLA gameplay
Volo would not be compared to Geeta. Volo would be compared to the AI Professor battle at the end
Agreed. Probably Kamado for geeta?
@@Rexx2345 even kamado stronger than geeta sigh , i mean shes a champion and supposed to be stronger while villain is unpredictable. they can be easy , normal or hard.
Arceus hands down. S/V is awesome and having a blast but PLA reignited my love for a series I’ve loved played and watched for 25 years since I was 10 years old. I still go back to it to shiny hunt. I love that game.
In terms of story, that's a tough one for me. Arceus felt kind of like a story that was being told to us. From the moment it began, you could feel a sense of tension. It certainly wins in terms of atmosphere.
SV, on the other hand, releases the tension a bit and is definitely a story we're experiencing but it's also given us a lot to ruminate on, especially in regards to the DLC. It also made me feel more attached to the characters.
I agree
That is exactly what I was going to mention.
Definitely agree!
That's an easy question to answer. YES! Yes it is. Legends: Arceus is better than Scarlet and Violet in literally every aspect except the maybe the twist ending. It plays better, it looks better, the world is better, than Pokemon in the overworld are better. It amazing the think Scarlet and Violet came after Legends: Arceus because it's such a massive downgrade in every aspect.
For me Scarlet and violet, ignoring the bugs and performance issues, felt like such a great development to the pokemon games since XY. The writing was good, they didnt entirely just shoehorn it to be for kids, all the characters had so much depth and all the designs were well researched tbh. PLA is def the better game in terms of performance and new game antics, but as a pokemon fan returning to the games after years, the new mechanisms did throw me off for quite a while and the lack of human interaction made it feel empty stimes. And the plot devices like being stuck in the past, fighting the frenzied nobles and all felt rather forced. Nevertheless it was a very enjoyable experience and I hope Gamefreak goes in the direction they're going with rn except not rush anything anymore.
For me it’s fairly simple:
I gave up on Legends Arceus while in the 4th area because I got bored of doing the same stuff over and over and just didn’t feel any connection. I never had a fully consistent team of Pokémon because it encouraged switching them out all the time to get new research.
In comparison I’ve already finished SV twice and I’m half-way through a 3rd, and I’ve used completely different teams each time. I love all of the characters and the story that goes along with it. Despite how poorly optimised it is, it’s better in every other regard for me
COULD NOT have said it better 👏
Exactly my problem with the game
The story is the only thing worthwhile to invest in, and the Hisuian Pokemon. Otherwise it's just catch this or catch that Pokemon to make any kind of progress
I thought I would be just like you... then I played LA after I played Scarlet and I loved it... tbf I like them both the same
If they just brought the catching mechanic, shiny sound, and Frostbite instead of Freeze status condition Scarlet and Violet would be great.
Also being able to turn off animations to speed up the battle would be nice.
Scarlet and Violet are bad games even perfectly optimized. They are EMPTY games after you finish the story. A big world full of nothing. Pokemon Legends Arceus is a fantastic game in general not only in terms of Pokemon standards.
Arcesus despite the linear mission set up break up the basic repetition of Pokémon league. Past version of sinnoh and meeting character ancestors is a breath of fresh air in an nostalgic way. Pokémon are an actual threat to you as the trainer and the Pokédex mission push for a new way of playing.
For me I personally I prefer Legends Arceus for only two reasons, free throwing PokeBalls (literally the one feature I wanted in the games for years) and faster battling animations (now this doesn’t mean battle system as I’m honestly neutral about both of them but just imagine the speed & smoothness of entering and leaving and actually battling in Legends Arceus, now think of that but the battle system is like how Scarlet & Violet is. If they did that in Scarlet & Violet then it could’ve made a good argument for me to prefer that over Legends Arceus but it didn’t).
The other stuff about those two games I’m personally neutral about, even though I can make logical decisions on noticing which game is better at certain things my overall enjoyment and honestly what I care about is just neutral
How’s the story line for arceus?
@@kelvinvelez1053 fairly good honestly, I say on par to how good Pokemon Black & White and Black 2 & White 2 are on a comparable level (as on a technical standard the Gen 5 games were the best story written Pokemon games before Legends Arceus and Scarlet & Violet were a thing with I will say that now currently Scarlet & Violet are now the best story written Pokemon games).
I say the downside you will need to complete the post game of Legend’s Arceus to get the full story (especially one of the hardest battles in Pokemon to date) since well you can’t get Arceus until you complete the post game anyway so similar to how Sword & Shield treated its box Legendary Pokemon (though unlike Sword & Shield with way more depth). Why that is a downside is because depending on the player a potential player might not like completing post game stuff and only focus on the main game which that type of player might find distasteful if they don’t get the full story in the main story of the game. But that’s honestly the only downside to Legends Arceus story, the only other downside is if you already know you are not a fan of the general Pokemon storylines then I lead to why I used the Gen 5 games for a comparable storyline as it’s to show that it’s definitely one of the better ones but I don’t think it would be strong enough to convince someone that doesn’t like a Pokemon storyline to actually properly like the storyline (they might at the very least say it’s definitely better compared to most Pokemon games but compared to other games in general they will definitely heavily nitpick it)
@@ConnerTravis1998 is there npc you have to battle?
@@kelvinvelez1053 other than story based ones which there isn’t really that many of them then no not really (battling in this games is not a heavy focus since it doesn’t have multiplayer features at all and focus you to complete the PokeDex so you can get Arceus which is super easy to do in these games since every single Pokemon for the Dex is available in this game) plus because how the battle system works in this game being fairly different since instead the normal turn based system it’s heavily based on how fast your actual Pokemon are as the faster your Pokemon is the more turns you can have to Atk (as you can get to up to 4 turns to Atk before even your opponent can get even a single chance to Atk) so theses battle can be done pretty fast very quickly especially when you start using the move styles (you have Strong style which increases the power of the move you are using but it would make your Pokemon go slower making more likely for you to lose a turn to Atk, you then have Agile style which will decrease the power of the move you used but will make your Pokemon faster making it more likely get more turns to Atk. However no matter which style you decided to use both styles will takeaway 2 PP off you Pokémon’s move that you used any of those styles on).
@@kelvinvelez1053 oh when it comes to battling wild Pokemon that’s all completely optional as you don’t actually need to battle Pokemon to catch Pokemon in this game (though depending on your own personal play style you might still think it’s easier to battle Pokemon to catch a Pokemon)
Story wise, Scarlett violet are much better than legends arceus but gameplay experience wise pla is much better than scarlet violet
My first Pokemon game was Pokemon Violet, I bought it around the time the first DLC released. It's never crashed on me, i've only had a couple goofy bugs (mostly involving Myraidon landing in a janky corner). I had a blast playing it I still do. The DLC was great, though it didn't leave much to grind after catching the Legendaries.
Legends Arceus is my 2nd mainline Pokemon game, and it really has blown me away so far. I love everything from the crafting system to the leveling system to the Dark Souls style boss battles. It makes me want another game in the same style, from the same time period (150-200 years ago) but in a different region.
Both games are really great in my opinion. The story in both games have surprisingly mature themes for Pokemon, but I appreciate their willingness to go there. Scarlet/Violet is an excellent introduction to the franchise, where Legends Acreus is a more challenging offering for gamers of any age.
One thing Arceus has over SV is side quests, but SV had more trainer battles. Arceus has more interesting catch mechanics as well, and more of an emphasis on catching and researching over battling. If SV had more research tasks like Arceus and more side quests, it would have been the better entry.
play black and white 2 🙏
To me it's Scarlet and Violet, I'm still waiting for Pokémon Adventures Scarlet and Violet manga
2022 was a wild time to be a fan, started on a high note with LA & ended on low with SV.
Haven't all pokemon games been open world?
Mainline games kinda but not really, PLA is more of a open zone based type of environment, SV has the illusion of open world except that it’s not
I prefer Arceus but I can see how over time it can get boring as it require a lot of grinding
LEGENDS with an open world and online play it would have been the best pokemon game ever and nobody would be playing S/V right now. PLA is just better in all ways when it comes to gameplay.
Arceus was definitely a Lot more fun!
I was initially going for Violet because Miraidon looks so cool. But then I saw Koraidon run and thought "that's a meme worthy dragon bike" and it won me over. So the graphical issues of SV didn't bother me that much. The main things that did annoy me are the times the game puts me in the same place as another pokemon WHILE battling a pokemon, particularly Tauros and Cyclizar when I'm shiny hunting them.
I really enjoyed both games. However I feel like scarlet/violet have better replay value. Legends I'm hesitant to restart because of all the required catching where in violet and scarlet I can prepare and send over a team to use and it doesn't matter if I catch everything or not.
Scarlet and Violet are the first games.... I didn't have fun in. It's pretty boring other than shiny hunting.
Legends Arceus however is an addiction! Definitely the first game I've felt alive and immersed since Pokemon Go in 2016. Just being able to chuck Pokeballs manually just feels right! Additionally, alphas create a horror-ish vibe to the game if one isn't careful. Also the shiny sound is pure dopamine and ear candy! Overall, Legends Arceus feels more complete despite fewer Pokemon.
The first few hours into scarlet i hated it but it has grown on me. I still dislike the way the gyms are set up and the forced exp share making things too easy.
Better than having to grind the heck out of your team cos grinding sucks
Technically, Vollo isn't the first to break past 6 Pokemon. Ghetsis challenges you with his 6 Pokemon immediately after you fought N with his 6 Pokemon, including a Legendary AFTER you catch your own Legendary in Black and White.
Loved Acerus better then scarlett- and shield better then Scarlett as well
Arceus Legends doesn’t have the long boring tera raids
Long boring broken Tera raids
I miss when pokemon cities had content in them
I'm a casual player. I care not for rank or online battles. So I care more about what I get in game, or in this case: Post-Game
Legends: Volo Story/Fight. Legendary Hunting. Completing the Dex to fight Arceus
S/V: 1 time rematch of Gym. School Tournament, and the 4 Ruin Pokemon.
Yeah I got more enjoyment out of Arceus as I got something out of the Pokedex rather than just a shiny charm: I got to fight God.
I love the battle with Arceus and his theme is one of my favourite Pokémon OSTs which feels odd since I hear a lot of people aren’t huge fans of Arceus’ theme but I think his theme in legends sounds so good even before it gets to the end of the fight where the music glitches out. I wish more was done with that like the game itself stutters and arceus sometimes looks like his beta sprite or something.
PLA isn’t what I call casual.
The most shocking thing about Pokémon Legends Arceus is the huge amount of brand new Pokémon and Regional Forms added to the lore of Hisui/Sinnoh
And that despite the name, Arceus is barely even prominent
@@eljordinio7647 makes sense though, he’s basically the Pokémon version of God
@@macwelch8599 even so he is supposed to be a focal point in the game. Like the legendary dragons were in unova, and the weather trio were in Hoenn
I think the let's go feature is pretty interesting and it doesn't take as long as you'd think, 3 laps around the little town before mesagoza (maybe 5 mins) will evolve those mons and because of that I was able to get a level 19 pawmot and a really early brambleghast that both helped out a ton in my hardcore nuzlocke, plus I'd argue it's better than friendship evolutions tbh which take way longer and are super irritating to track.
Friendship evos take less time in ScaVi. I caught a riolu, washed it 6 times back to back, and evolved it with candy immediately. Took maybe 3 minutes beginning to end. Whereas I found the lets go a lot more buggy, took over 10 minutes for one of them
Pokemon Legends Arceus was a really fun Main Series game the catching was fun,the battles were fun especially the gimmick of the styles,The New Evolutions and Hisuin Forms,and Sidequests. Pokemon Legends Arceus is a better experience then Pokemon Scarlet in my opinion.
Pokemon Scarlet isn't optimized well I mean sheesh the Open World the framerate drops so many times
Violet and Scarlet has too much going against it compared to Legends the visuals look "nicer" sure but when performance greatly suffers the greater visuals are not worth it. The story is Arceus much like the Gen 4 games is epic and I love the Edo period setting of what would later be Sinnoh and the world feels more lived in
sword and shield for me is the best. its because it makes me remember the old times and I don't like a motorcycle pokemon lol. I like the Pokemon Legends Arceus but the theme of the game is like the old version of lifetime like the years of the samurai which is way too different from the pokemon that I've been playing since I was 10 years old. Its been 24years now and the improved version of that game give me a better experience. I hope they bring back the old pokemon like Cubone and blastoise and they should add online battle with other trainer while they are farming on the field.
What would be cool is if they added the same mass release mechanic as Legends arecus. As in mass releasing a bunch of pokemon hatched from eggs and then receiving supplies for tms in return
Bro it's definitely legends arceus it has more legendaries more gameplay And it's just more fun to Play
Legends Arceus is unique and has no bad frame rate and glitches as of the updates released after launch. Versus Scarlet and Violet which has a still bad frame rate and occasional glitches. I hope they don't rush the next game and take a long hiatus because I don't want to see another terrible launch that could ruin the franchise as we know it.
After I played Legends: Arceus I genuinely argued with myself that it may have been my new favorite Pokemon game. The story was way more interesting than recent Pokemon stories and it was really interesting exploring Husui. However, after beating both Scarlet and Violet completely and working my way through Violet for a second play-through with a specialized team I've gotta say 100% that these new games are my new favorites in the series. EVEN WITH THE HORRIBLE PERFORMANCE I absolutely love all the QoL and the intertwining stories. If Game Freak can do this again on the next-gen Nintendo console but with better performance AND VOICE ACTING then I think the series will be moving in the right direction.
if violet had the whole game like the starter area up to the school where you feel free to explore anywhere from the start it would be an amzing game,i truly felt like this game might be amazing until i got past that stage and saw how closed off everything felt after. instead it became a linear go left or right
Legends Arceus battle system other than agile style and Strong is the best system. Quest the difficulty of Legends Arceus is superior to all other Pokemon games.
The freedom of movement during battle being attacked by Pokemon crafting the choice to evolve system, catching system Pokedex all of those things are Superior in should have been included in SV
I really like both of these games.
SV I was having issues with the game crash multiple times, vs Arceus. I'd personally love to see a fusion between the games. I personally prefer the smaller worlds design of Arceus rather than the fully open world of SV, I know that this isn't the popular opinion, but heck it is my opinion. The real issue with Arceus was how repetitive the game got, no Gyms/Special Side quests/really strong post game kinda hurt the game. I really enjoyed the crafting, and indoors aspect of the game. Breeding in SV was quite nice and simple.
Let's be fair though I would be quite satisfied with a re-release of HeartGold and SoulSilver, Sun and Moon, and in general the older games.
Arceus had a real issue of not having DLC.
I like how we can choose how to catch Pokémon, the quest that brig us more into the world and with a lot more interact. Also, we all probably want the less stress of having sparkles.
From a tech enthusiast's perspective, Legends:Arceus has the bigger W since it deals with less jank but SV wins in terms of how they reinvented the franchise's formula big time, so it's more like a 51/49 when it comes to how much I enjoyed playing them since I don't have anything else to do in Legends: Arceus except testing mons from SV can evolve to their Hisuian forms, but 6-7 star raids are still a lot of fun even if there are only 2 of them every day.
I mean props for reinventing the formula but still, there was far too much emphasis on catching for my liking
@@eljordinio7647 especially when imo the catching mechanic in legends was better than S/V
Take out the open world then how exactly did SV reinvent the franchise ??where as legends arceusr completely changed the way you battle, catch, and interact with Pokémon n the world around you
@@tempestfrost4213 valid point, but you forgot the fact it's a 51/49, so either game can be on advantage since there's no major advantage outside of which game gets the 2% advantage.
@@tempestfrost4213 true the auto battling/following pokemon is a big+ though
it is for shiny hunting as they give you a sound alert
I loved both games for different reasons. SV’s open world was a completely ‘new’ experience and the nonlinearity made these games feel like it could be replayed multiple times and have a differing experience each time. The story was also refreshingly new.
On the other hand I loved the art style of PLA and the reimagining of a beloved region that sets the basis for future potential stories of other regions (Johto/Kanto & Sinjoh Ruins anyone?). Although repetitive, I enjoyed the story and climax of PLA. I also enjoyed the additional interactions with mons in the open world and the fact that battles are not required for capture. It’s as if they perfected the formula from Pokémon Go. This translates to a new experience that is more strategic than the traditional catching mechanic.
All in all, both games have their unique charm. But PLA edges out ever so slightly today (but that could change with DLC).
Wow I had a completely different experience with SV than you did, I felt like it was linear as hell, like there's no level scaling for the gyms or anything else so it's unless you wanna go back and just one shot everything in previous gyms then you're pretty much left with doing them in a specific order, I hated how you were given the box legendary and how it was basically your HM slave, not so much because the BOX LEGENDARY was relegated to a HM slave but because I felt like it overshadowed my entire team without even being on it, didn't make it a very pleasant experience, especially since its so prevalent in the story because of how big and empty the map is I'm either forced to use it to make traversale better or I'm forced to suffer through the slog fest of simply walking through the region, no matter what I do there's no avoiding an issue cause others just take its place
Plus the game just looks horrible to me, PLA is kinda bad in some ways but the art style is keeping it from becoming a negative, SV just looks like they've taken assets from multiple different games from multiple different console generations, plus there's just no fun PvE or single player content to do besides the typical story stuff, like no battle frontier, no quests like in PLA, it honestly feels so empty and devoid of any enjoyment while PLA I can enjoy for the most part
I would have a better time on sv if normal gameplay didnt lead to so many bugs. I only found pl:a bugs when i looked for them where sv just feels like a public demo.
I like the story and characters more in SV…I like the friend group especially Arven, and for the first time I truly cared about the box legendary because he was with us the entire game and all it’s cutscenes showed off it’s adorable personality
The story was really good in Arceus, but i didn’t feel personally attached to any particular character. I liked them, just didn’t have that connection like with Arven or Koraidon. I do think the gameplay allows you to create a deeper bond with your Pokémon tho, because of the dangers of the outside your Pokémon are your only line of defense against everything that seemingly wants to kill you. The trainer battles are really tough too, so when I just barely managed to win a 3 on 1, it felt like I was in the anime where you can win by sheer determination..By the end I was really attached to my typhlosion since he had been there through my struggles since the beginning, and when I got kicked out of the village my very first thought was “at least I still have my Pokémon”.
I had a overall better time with arceus. I love sv, and it’s in my top 3 but the only thing holding it back is the poor performance/glitches, and the things not brought from arceus like the smooth catching system.
>:(
I love the open world idea of s/v, it makes for the best iteration of Pokémon ever created. But something about arceus makes it the best game game freak/Nintendo has ever produced for the Pokémon franchise. I loved the focus being on catching rather than battling, I LOVE the hisuian forms and I love the graphics. May not have been the most impressive but the art style is crazy good. Also that sinnoh was my favorite region next to kanto (and that’s only cuz I’m an og r/b/y player)
I really hope they do a second Legends game with a true open world and the same or similar features/gameplay!
@@shadowoflugia legends johto
I love that burn he made to Michael Bay’s transformers movies! I just bursted out laughing after seeing that! 11:43
PLA was new and different which I liked for sure but I def like scarlet /violet better. I got burned out on arceus fast, It felt like a chore to finish the dex which you really needed to do to complete the game. Completing the dex to get the shiny charm which much more fun in violet to me
SV.
Arceus has too few battles for me and too small of a dex and variety for replays and shiny hunting. Although I liked how the leveling up mons in a dex increases that species shiny odds.
I disagree that it had too small of a dex. Not every Pokémon game needs a million different Pokémon to catch.
(I know there’s only slightly more than 1000 and nowhere near a million Pokémon yet but my point still stands)
I’m currently playing arceus again after playing the hell out of violet and to be honest, I think there (arceus and s/v) are probably both equally good but there are major difference that I prefer between arceus and s/v.
Having played neither yet but knowing a lot about them, I'd say it comes down to preference. Arceus is more of a spin off focussed on lore and history of pokemon with cool new features and approach, whereas SV is ur standard mainline game but with the open world, quest, and coop twist. I think Arceus definitely stands strong tho, whether its better or not, just because of less bugs, better performance, and trying something new.
I honestly really liked both games a lot but I think PLA has the slight edge for me cause I love the concept of going back to ancient sinnoh and loved the new mechanics of the game.
I feel Scarlet and Violet is morey favourite Legends Arceus is good and does have some good music but I like Violet more
Pokemon are also much much stronger stat wise in legends arceus
I will say I prefer Scarlet & Violet more than Arceus since I speculated that if Arceus has some of the features that S&V has it would probably have the same issues like it's future predecessor has. Like how if the game were to be played up to 4 players it would have the same performance issues as well. Not to mentioned how the lack of battles (meaning other AI trainer battles) aren't as prevalent in the game like S&V. Honestly Arceus is more showcase for older fans who grew up playing the same Pokemon game throughout the years having to just roamed around and just catching Pokemon and somewhat taking in the story seriously whereas S&V tries to differentiate both of those things making it feel more like a true Pokemon game.
While I do love both of these games they aren't exactly my personal favorites, I do happened to like S&V a bit more than Arceus mainly for all the new Pokemon here. However that being said Gen 7 SM/USUM will always be my personal favorite best Pokemon game to me.
I feel like both games are still strong games in the main series even with their issues that it’s really hard to say which is better and with some of the feedback the same are getting, make me hope that it’s going to go towards projects like Gen 10 and make them mind blowing
Legends Arceus for me all days! really enjoyed that game and the newer games not so much
Are there any Pokemon you think should've gotten a regional variant? I was hoping for a Psychic type Volpix myself.
I think Arecus is leaps and bounds better. Scarlet and Violet feels like a Ps3 type era game. It tries to have this open world but just does nothing interesting with it other than just having Pokemon all over it. There's no real reason to explore beyond finding whatever Pokemon you need. Arecus suffers from this a little but at the very least it has quest givers, whisps to collect and Alpha pokemon which have WAY more appeal than the god awful terra system. Story was much better especially since it helped explore the lore of Pokemon a lot more. I think people like Scarlet and Violets story because of the last two hours when the game finally decided to be intersting and the Professor battles were cool. I think people ride that high and call it a day.
The story in it was extremely repetetive, each arc was just doing each scene over and over and over again. Gym path was a generic story as it ever is about how you are gonna be the best,
Team Star was just penny debreifs you, lol not clavell, oh you beat me now I am gonna complain about being bullied. Which is fine, but it just got old after hearing the 2nd person complain. And I felt no connection to penny because she barely talks to you beyond giving you the same orders at each base.
Arvins was the only one that felt like it was the actual stroy to the game as it at least was consistent and was the POLAR opposite of Team star. Where you learned more and more about him, his situation, what happened to his Mastiff and etc. Where team star basically just told you the same thing just from someone elses expirence. And it actually lead to being meaningful to the actual ending of the game. It's so crazy people say the story is so good but when you compare it to all the other games and B/W being the only other game with a decent story then anything that makes any small attempt seems amazing I guess...
My weird opinion is that I think arceus is objectively the better game- it's more polished, has a better gameplay experience, better UI and quality of life features, it's much smoother, and brought much more to the franchise in terms of experimentation. And yet...I've sunk significantly more time into SV. Maybe because it's the mainline game and has a bit more of a post game with the 7 star raids and competitive scene, but I've easily amassed over 90 hours and still going where I barely hit 65 in Arceus. Shiny hunting just wasn't enough to keep me engaged after finishing the post game. So overall I think I prefer SV, but Areceus is better.
Legends Arceus only has catching mechanic, other then that, game is nothing
As someone who is colorblind I enjoy the sound que of there being a shiny pokemon for me that was a big loss in Violet
I wouldn't even consider Scarlet and Violet an Open World game, it's basically just one huge Wild Area, if it was Open World than the story wouldn't dictate where you would be going or force you to go there.
The main issues I find with Scarlet and Violet is the fact that they're issues that were already resolved in past games or something you would think they would've dealt with by now.
The performance is STILL garbage, despite... what is this, the 4th Pokemon game they've made? Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee was fine. They rushed ILCA to produce BDSP and that game doesn't shit itself during a sandstorm.
You can't make the argument of "Well Let's Go and BDSP had simple graphics" because Scarlet and Violet ain't exactly top tier in that department either. The environments are butt ugly.
If Legends Arceus had proper multiplayer. Co-op and Battles, I honestly wouldn't care for Scarlet/Violet. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it, but I wouldn't go beyond post game and maybe DLC.
is legends acreus not in the same category as let's go?
I'm one of the few lucky players that had no bug or glitch in violet and I find the game amazing
I didn’t get PLA when it came out but I did play Violet on release. After playing V then PLA, I can say that there are definitely aspects that PLA does better (namely graphics and creativity), SV are better IMO. I think the story is the best in the series, the open world is great to just hang around and grind, and I prefer the traditional battle style rather than the agile/strong style stuff. I think they’re both good in their own right
Arceus is the greatest Pokémon game ever. I'll die on that hill.
My thoughts is if you care more about competitive battling with a traditional battle system and a somewhat more interesting than average story then Scarlet and Violet might be the game for you, if you care about exploration seeing how Pokémon interact with the world and having an actual new experience with a main series game Legends Arceus will be the better choice all in all Legends Arceus is the far superior game in my opinion and is a direction the Pokémon company should consider as an alternative for those who are tapped out of the run of the mill badge hunting scenarios Every game and yes I’m including Sun and moon in this has done for over 2 decades between BDSP, PLA and SV Legends Arceus is the standout game between the 3 and is the only one is still regularly play not counting Rescue Team DX anyway
The story in scarlet and violet is like a decent meal served in a cheap paper plate and plastic utensils.
The meal might be decent but the entire school theme is a big turn off.
What Pokemon game would you recommened to an old school pokemon veteran?
Last pokemon game I played was Pokemon Colosseum on gamecube lol
I like violet more but only slightly. Arceus was like a breath of fresh air but violet for me had a better story and what felt like more to do. However I really wish they had left the sound for shinies and being able to throw pokeballs at wild pokemon to catch them without battling
I just started getting into pokemon bc my kids are starting to get into it. I got them diamond for switch which for us is great. We are all pretty much newcomers though so i dunno how that game clicks with long time fans. All 3 of us are incredibly addicted to pokemon now and im on the fence about getting S&V or Arceus legends for us. Ill prob eventually get them both but for now im not sure which one to play first. The only thing that is making me nervous about S&V is the obvious performance issues. I dont think my kids will mind that much and i wont either if its just some graphic jank here and there, but still i also dont want to deal with a slideshow framerate. Any thoughts on which to try?
PLA was definitely way more polished. It has way more distinctive protagonist designs, way better locomotion and physics for both the characters and the ride Pokémon, and the graphics are better than SV as well. I prefer catching mons and the overall art-style of PLA compared to SV as well. But I love so many Gen 9 mons, along with the story and overall game content being way better in SV than PLA, and the soundtrack was better in SV imo, despite PLA OST being great as well. Overall, still had loads of fun with both, despite the numerous issues with both games :D
True, but the focus on catching rather than battling in Legends Arceus drags it down for me.
Arceus has more replay value because of the way you catch shinnies especially with the Mass Mass Outbreaks but both games are great. I’d argue that S/V has better characters and a more interesting map.
I think Legends was one of the most fresh pokemon experience iv had ever since i came across the early gen 3 games.
I found both average at best. Arceus had awesome ideas but poor execution with one of the most bland worlds I’ve ever seen and for scarlet and violet I didn’t like alot of the changes and technical issues and the new gimmick/mechanic was probably my least favorite
I think the answer really depends on your preferences and experiences.
As a 35 years old man that is here trully since the begining, that insane "realism" and freedom of PLA's exploring and catching mechanicis is all that I could have asked for since my childhood, and It makes me love the game more than anything and replay it indefinitely. Simple like that.
But, also, as a really obsessed fan of the main games, having the single best story of all gens (simple, a bit childish and silly sometimes, but so darn well written, with awesome characters, dialogues, and animations, for the first time since 3d era started), with that big open world, lots of amazing New mons to use.... How not to bem Thrilled?
I could never pick a favorite, they both made me immensely happy for different reasons. The ideal world would be a New game with all these strenghts combined. I can see why anyone would prefer PLA and also SV, and I would simply agree with wherever they said! The decision ia really that personal, what one prefers
@Brandy Marie like I said, It depends on what you prefer. PLA is a single player and finite game, there's not a lot to do besides the main story, but it's the single best experience I ever had because of the capture method, the freedom of being able to just stealthly catch the mons without the annoying need of a battle, etc.... But SV, besides the unbelieable amount of glitches, is the best main game ever, plus the raids, online battling and etc. I collect ALL the versions, so I have them all. If you're in doubt, watch some gameplay videos! They can help you choose better.
Ask me anything else if you want, too!
@Brandy Marie oh, and I forgot to mention that PLA is also funnier because it's kinda an action game as well! You can be hurt by the mons yourself, the boss battles are kinda "Dark Souls" vibe, you need to dodge and run a lot, and It is obviously something that you won't have on main series games.
@Brandy Marie Get Arceus. God I hope you chose Arceus. It's such a better path forward for the series. I'm in my thirties, and it's the closest we've gotten to the game of my dreams for Pokemon yet.
I still stand by my opinion that Legends Arceus is the better game. Better catching mechanics, better combat mechanics, better character movement, better shiny indicators, shiny sprites showing up in your storage box, more mount variety, better gliding mount experience, alpha Pokemon, one version of the game (no two version crap), performance is much better and overall stabilized.
What does Scarlet and Violet do better? Better Pokedex, better open world exploration, more new Pokemon since it's a mainline game, better shiny odds experience overall and easier to hunt (unless you're colorblind), co-op, online battles, breeding and raiding.
The issues in Scarlet and Violet may seem small, but many of them pile up to form a mountain of problems. The most annoying is trying to run away from a battle just to end up caught in another battle immediately after running away and having that sometimes loop anywhere between 2-5 times, depending on the location. Legends Arceus has very few annoying issues. I can't remember any of them as of this writing, but I'm sure there were some problems. Not enough to lower my opinion of it though.
To me the only things that Arceus has on Scarlet/Violet is the final boss battles, the catching mechanic and the shiny sound. However after both games.. I don’t wanna see the psyduck line for a while
Yea because you can actually play legends arceus
Legends Arceus is a spinoff game.
I don't feel like there's a better one. Regarding these two games in particular, I can't choose a better one.
me being a gen 4 lover makes pla my fav pokemon game
I honestly were really unimpressed by legends arceus when it came out and decided to skip it, but after playing violet and experiencing its flaws I might give it a chance. I actually think it might do some things a lot better
I played +400 hours of Arceus Legends, pokedex completion and sidequests were really engaging also most NPCs stay in the game so you can always visit them. On the other side, I only played 80 hours of Pokemon Violet, yeah.... once you complete the pokedex and post game there is only raid events left which always have issues, also a lot of important NPCs just dissapear. Arceus Legends left me craving for more story and content, while Pokemon Violet makes me feel i have to pay extra money to get the real ending :/
Honestly I think not. Legends arceus only good thing to come out if it was hisuisn forms the catching mechanic and a taste of an open world experience.
The story is garbage as you still are stuck in hisui with no way to return home. There’s no real villain to overcome so they made volo a twist villain when you least expect it. and no reason to fight the nobles other than plot progression.
Scarelet and violet personality has better story better exploration and all and all better replayability.
Both games have their long tutorial hand holding things where you’re forced to just walk for an hour before obtaining your Pokémon but that’s been a thing since gen 7
Yes I watched geriums video I agreed with most of his points
In terms of characters, Scarlet/Violet takes the win. Especially Team Star, my favorites. But in gameplay, I would go for Legends Arceus. It’s just so much more fun for me, I especially like that you can catch Pokémon without even fighting them. I very much enjoy hiding in the grass and luring Pokemon close then throwing the ball. I haven’t found a way to do that in Scarlet/Violet.
Arecus. I prefer better even though it's basically a 3D version of Pokemon mystery dungeon
I really miss that 5 year period from 2013-2018 when the graphics were considered good for the system they were on.
I have violet and I've been thinking of getting arceus or scarlet for koraidon. And I think I'll get arceus.
Legends Arceus was dope.
PLA is definitely not better than S&V for replayabilty for me. Pla is great if all you care about is shiny hunting and catching but for me PLA was just a grocery store i went to collect what i wanted moved them to home than into S&V where i have so many ways to use them.
Id love them to take the quality of life features from PLA and add them to games not hyperfocused on just catching.
Also this comparison is prior to DLC which i think adds alot
Not a fan of mainline games, played let's go, shield and didn't do that much in violet (only like 2 titans n a bunch of pokemon leveled up n evolved) I legit dropped Violet and went to finish Digimon World Next Order pff. Really have to be in a mood to play so no idea when I'll play more
Arceus is definitely my favourite "mainline" game, it's the first one I ever bought too with Mystery Dungeon Rescue Team DX as fav spinoff (played red on an emolator years ago on like half the speed but still loved so had to get the remake n I love the art style of it)
I've somehow spent tons of hours exploring the Arceus world and yet somehow still found new areas in it pff. I had a blast playing the game and thought I finished it before the updates for it were released but I later found out that there's more stuff with Volo n stuff but after I borrowed it to my best friend so didn't finish that yet. I love the crafting feature and putting all my savings into the guy with inventory upgrades pfff. Wild pokemon feel like such a threat, sneaking around and throwing pokeballs but if they break out you run just far enough that they leave you alone and repeat pff. I loved sending my pokemon out to get resources n stuff, I'd go get as many lost items as possible on a map n had memorized each part of the first area so I knew exactly when to turned where to gather tumblestones (is that what they were called?) while in violet I'm legit like okay LETS GO KILL THEM ALL while I check my phone notifications as my pokemon get exp. Honestly wish that they would follow you and fight like that in Arceus cuz you can let them out but they just stay in that spot even tho they have walking animations and stuff....
Hecc now I want the game back, guess I better go finish shield n return it to my best friend to get Arceus bacc pff
SV and PLA both have their issues and glitches but their end results are far from the absolute worse they could've been and I will stand with that personal opinion