my nephew is basicly in same boat as this kid.he was 19 at a party with friends and hooked up with someone who turned out to be underage.judge was understanding about it cuz for real most people arnt gonna ask for an id.but years later a different judge decided to take it back to court and now hes on the list.system is messed up.
When I was Deputy in Orlando, we had a guy in a bar drinking. He met a girl there who was also drinking, so safe to assume she has to be at least 21. Takes her to a motel, then fast forward. Turns out she is 16 and OPD arrested him and then they sentenced him to jail and sex offender status. Bar did not get in trouble for serving minors, because she had a fake ID. As far as I know, she never got in any trouble either. Now just exactly how was that guy guilty of anything? The law has to be about JUSTICE and should be flexible and open to interpretation, not just about blindly sticking to the letter of the law like a malevolent robot.
Judge handed down a prejudicial decision. Even stated his "personal bias" in it. An appeal would have caused this conviction to be over turned. Get the judge off the bench. Parents could sue the girls family and the state for this
The reason why i hate judges. I know there has to be someone to deside punishments and stuff but why is their opinion the way it should be. They choose if someone behaves right or not like wtf
So basically the judge acknowledged that he was innocent and didn’t know she was under age and still convicted him because he doesn’t like hookups. The judge needs to be convicted
I'm sorry are you new to planet earth? Just in case you should know that our justice system is farcical, Murderers get a slap on the wrist and innocent people are thrown in jail every minute of every day. Also welcome it's not as bad as it looks!
I heard a story about a nine-year-old girl who was molested by her father and repeated the behavior on her younger siblings, as she was told it was normal by her abuser. She's now a registered sex offender for life. There needs to be a distinction made between sex offenders who are violent, sadistic rapists and sex offenders who got caught taking nudes of themselves when they were seventeen. Otherwise, justice is poorly served.
Honestly she should be the one being punished because she gave a false identity to him and also is on an adult dating app being only 14 years old. I am glad the mom and daughter didn’t try to give him extra time though.
Also in the Bible both parties paid the consequences. So if they're not going to do anything to her, his sentence should be lighter. They should allow him to have a normal life because some of them judges did the same things or worse when they were teenagers. I will agree with Justice, but also Mercy.
Seriously, she admitted that she lied and the mom said that she didn't want this kid punished. But because the judge can't get any, now everyone has to suffer
The Dating WebSite should be held accountable! Don't you need to use a credit card to join? It's same if you meet a girl (or boy) at a bar. You take it for granted, that he/she has had their ID checked!. The Judge is an asshole with an ax to grind! The Judge probably never "got any" as a teen and is probably an evangelical, who preaches, then gets caught in a public bathroom, seducing young boys!
Well the good thing is apparently he was taken off the registry. So not sure what goes on there but yeah the prosecution went too far along with the judge
He doesn't care. They think they are gods. A judge tried to take my daughter away because I'm in drug treatment but had been off drugs before I got pregnant.. And all I had was a public prosecutor so I was almost shit out of luck if the drug program hadn't stepped in and told him he's breaking a federal law and if they do this this will take him to the supreme court. Thank god for those people! Uneducated old ass judges that are mad at society and how the world is changing and are stuck in the good ole boy system..
the judge is part of a corrupt system paid for by billions of dollars of a lie of justice. the criminal justice justice is a lie for rich people that can afford the attorneys to defend them. state attorney and defense attorney with the the judges collaborate while playing golf and eating on taxpayer monies. its a shame that the people allow this, its a shame that the people allow this blatant perversion of the founders plan. this goes beyond this this shows how law makers are corrupted by lobbyists who pay millions to make law. its sad really sad and the media lies to you.
That judge should be removed. His personal opinion is over ruling justice. Condemning someone because you don't like that people hookup is not justice.
It's kind of still his fault for trusting an online site and then doing someone in a play ground i mean ......tf man??🤦he just broke a law of public indecency
Religious or conservative nut cakes. I have no idea how these people are allowed to operate as part of the law while clearly they are incapable of objective views.
@Snow Wolf I'm a liberal and I would still call out on her bs. My point is the judge was clearly not able to come up with an objective view and destroyed this guy for personal beliefs. People like that have no place in the justice system.
@@FurlowT Exactly. Ignoring the fact that other people's sex lives should be private and not go depending on your personal beliefs, the judge did not even take into account that he's a kid that says stupid stuff that he should not in court. Because, you know, HE'S A KID.
This man is traumatized man, you can literally see throughout the whole video he’s depressed, he probably feels like he’s a monster for sleeping with someone underage, especially a 14 year old.
i was arrested in 2007 for similar reasons. at the age of 27. in my instance, my only crime was being in a 21 or older byob bar and giving a ride to a girl. i dropped her off at the house where she slept with her 21 yr old boyfriend. turns out she was the 15 yr old daughter of the DJ. she didnt want to get her boyfriend in trouble so she pointed the finger at me... i spent 2 yrs on a 75k bond. my grandmother had to refinance her home to pay the bond. we spent thousands in legal fees and i too ALMOST ended up on that predator list... there needs to be moree protection of men, instead of just throwing them under the bus every time.
Honestly at this point, sombody just needs to sue the Judical branch. At its heart, it's a corrupt and failed system that's caused more problems than its worth and put more innocents and mentally ill in jail than the actually 'guilty'
I feel like you're the hiding truth in your story. Why did you get in trouble? What do you mean she pointed the finger at you, how is it anything to do with you? What does her being the dj's daughter have to do with anything, or do you mean she was there when she shouldn't have been simply because she was the Dj's daughter? How did you not know the difference between a 15yo and a 21 yo? Why were you driving her around? If you are innocent, then you should have fought harder because I don't see how you're any part of this unless they determined that you were guilty given the sheer number of questions that you seemingly thought were not red flags and still continued to make the choices that you made.
@@annetteslife The ones that put the kid through hell is the laws and peoples views not the kid, she did nothing wrong, nor did he. They did nothing wrong to begin with.
Update for everyone (A revised sentence took his name off the sex offender registry and granted him a second chance under a Michigan law called the Holmes Youthful Trainee Act, which offers leniency to first-time offenders who are young adults. If Zach successfully completes the terms of his probation, he will have no criminal record and it will be “as if it never happened,” said Les Anderson.)
@@owenn4i think that would be discrimination against Zach bc he has already proven his innocence about the case and his criminal charges being dismissed so if a job were to disallow him from joining just bc of an incident that he was being framed then he has the right to seek legal action against them for discriminating him
@@Spectre-tv7wiemployers who excluded him will never admit that, despite the boy being declared innocent, they didn't wanna employ him because he's been (wrongfully) a Sex Offender from a technical POV. They would just tell the judge in court they didn't see him fit for some other reason and get away with that and still not employing the boy.
" i would think he would have asked for her ID." Yes, because every time i meet someone, i immediately ask them for their ID, birth certificate, last 4 of their social, you know, the essentials...
If you were in the habit of having sex with 17 year old girls you barely know then it wouldn't be that strange to ask for confirmation of age. If he had met her family even once he would have known her age. Dude fucked up.
@@hotcrazycatladyme168 She didn't ask for her id a guy can lie about his age as well, it would have been just as messed up if a 14 year old boy lied about his age to a girl
Just a little update for you guys: He was taken off the sex offender list, the parents started a petition and gathered over 200k supporters. I am happy Zach can now live life how he deserved but disappointed that they didn't take the charges off immediately when the daughter and mom even said it wasn't his fault.
What she did is called Rape in some states Rape by fraud is defined as such in Tennessee: 39-11-106a Title definitions. (13) Fraud means as used in normal parlance and includes, but is not limited to, deceit, trickery, misrepresentation and subterfuge, and shall be broadly construed to accomplish the purposes of this title; Obtaining intercourse through fraud, just as force or coercion, constitutes rape because it vitiates the consent of the victim. Tennessee prohibits intercourse "induced by deception," "accomplished by fraud," and obtained by "ruse."
I hate rapists and pedophiles, but these circumstances are different, the charge and punishment is unfair. The justice system has failed us in this case.
One of the most shocking things is the judge's line on hookup culture. It suggests he is punishing him for promiscuity rather than for the age difference, its like the judge recognizes this was actually a consesual encounter and just doesn't care. That is sick.
It's sad that the law actually does work that way. Even if the girl showed you a fake driver's license that said she was 21, you can still be convicted if she's actually underage. In many states, THERE IS NO LEGAL DEFENSE if you are catfished by a minor, no matter how many efforts the minor took to conceal/misrepresent their age. If you two had sex, you're guilty, regardless of the facts and circumstances.
well why not honestly.. it would be smart. And done jokingly it would not even be such a turnoff. Were I to raise a son, I'd tell him to jokingly get proof of every girl's age. You could do that in a non-serious manner, like when you're out and she's presenting a licence for getting a drink "hey let me see that picture of yours" (of course when jumping into bed 5 min after meeting that s difficult..). And the law, you have to admit, actually makes sense if you consider young immature girls. They ARE frequently preyed upon by much older guys exploiting vulnerabilities (trouble or neglect at home, developmental delays, intellectual or mental deficits, drug abuse, sexual abuse at home etc). This guy is the atypical older guy with sexual relations with a minor, and considering the facts of the case it is right to give him a much more lenient sentence. But not all of them, by far, are "good guys", on the contrary.
There is a big issue with what the judge said. He said he was sentencing the way he did because he disagrees with hookup culture and said nothing about the age difference. Hookup culture is not illegal and his opinion of it should have nothing to do with this teen’s punishment. I can’t believe the lawyer didn’t cling to that for the appeal.
I caught that, too. I am in 100% agreement with his position on hookup culture, but that has zero basis on the case. That judge should be removed from the bench, and disbarred, permanently. He should also be jailed for the same length of time that the young man was jailed. I wonder how many other people he convicted for violating his personal morals? Every single one of his cases should be reviewed.
I’m proud of the Mom and the daughter for not being entitled brats about the situation and are actually trying to Defend Zach. Cheers to the mom and daughter
MORE LIKE HIS BUSINESS ASSOCIATIONS ! THESE CORRUPT OFFICIALS. USE THEIR POSITIONS IN POWER 4 RETALIATION. JUST ASK HUMBOLDT COUNTY. ? THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE.....
sr20DETdrift well even though it is messed up, he did technically commit a crime, even if he didn’t know it. (But I would like to see a picture of the girl to see if she looks 14 or 17)
@@elizaog exactly though, it is a technicality that landed this guy in jail. Are we suppose to check I.D now when dating? even if we do, what if the I.D is fake? This all could have been handled much better considering her family and herself were apologetic and wanted charged dropped.
It’s funny that this kid will be paying 25 year sentence for a non criminal offense but thousands of criminal are released with no consequences after murder, assault and many others crimes. The system is really broken.
@@sarahgrace3760 The only example this is, is of how you shouldn't trust anyone, let alone the Judicial system. He's being punished for her lieing and the judge's personal moral beliefs. The Judges moral beliefs should never be a factor in court of law, his job is strictly to interpret the law and deal out punishment in according to the law. The guy is the victim in this case, other than being tricked by a lie, he broke no laws. So he shouldn't be getting punishment for it, even to be an example.
That judge essentially used a legal technicality to go after someone who wasnt a criminal just because he disagreed with his lifestyle. That judge needs to be put on trial, this is abuse of power, straight and simple, and he didnt even attempt to hide it.
no honestly that was the most fucked up part. like the judge literally said himself that it wasn't the crime he just doesn't like hookup culture so he fucked the kid up. the fact a justice system can even come down to the judge not liking something is a broken system
@Angry Combat Wombat you obviously don't know what your talking about, he had NO knowledge that she was 14, think of this like a 14 year old trying to get into a porn site, the porn site can't know that the 14 year old is there all they can do is give warnings that you have to be 18, so basically the 14 year old gets on a ADULT dating site and lies about their age and nobody can do anything about it, he thought they would be old enough because it's a adult site but she wasn't and I have no idea why she would think that it's OK to lie when she could easily get a man her age to have sex with as that's not illegal. He shouldn't have even been in jail in the first place, that judge was just being biased beyond belief.
Way to destroy a young man's life. This guy will never be able to go to college, have a decent mortgage affordable job, or be comfortable in ever meeting another woman again and possible ever getting married and being able to raise a family. In other words, you have help to create a person who crime and drugs will most likely be in his future. Why not just pull the trigger yourself judge, you clearly wanted to destroy a young man's life.
@@EmperorBob How so? You seem to disagree with the statement that the judge is unfair, which is highly ridiculous and honestly despicable. People who agree with the judge dont deserve to live normal lives. They should go to fucking jail.
Yeah because older women are way more educated, enough to understand who is right when it comes to sex offenders, she knows her son is not guilty, ALWAYS trust the mother when it comes to this
@@dante6055 Well in the case they call her victim, never said she was innocent if she didn't lie about her age should wouldn't have wasted this guy's time. Also that judge was stupid to put him on that list
Remember young men: When you meet a woman, ask for their ID and make sure they sign a 10 page consent form! It's the only way to stay out of jail. Ridiculous.
Daniel Sadjadi Oh yeah it is just soooo not weird to ask someone for their ID. It is totally normal to just ask for a girl's ID before proceeding into a romantic interest. Come on man. Also, there are consent forms! This isn't a rare anecdote. This happens and it happens A LOT.
You know what it is very ridiculous but to be honest with you way things are right now in the way things are going it’s sad to say it but I just have to start doing it . And I’m sorry for making light of it but I know everyone member South Park episode with pc principal passing out the consent forms
Who the hell asks to see a drivers license before a hook up? And not all 14 year olds look like babies. When I was 13, people used to think that I was 16-18 because of how old I looked & how I dressed. I'm so glad that he got taken off the list.
+Sarah Burggraf +wHaTEveN Yeah, some people age a lot over the years where as others sprout at a young age. I sprouted at 11 and have barely grown/changed since.
Skyler Grey // Fifty Shades Freed and it's the reverse with my sister she's 21 but people always think I'm older than her, some people look alot older while others look younger.
“The judge condemned what he called the culture of ‘meet, hookup, have sex, sayonara’.” That judge should be fired, that is 100% the judge taking his own personal opinion to determine weather a person is guilty. With the family not even wanting to press charges it’s ridiculous that he even went to jail. I smell a lawsuit.
Exactly. You can't be jailed for premarital sex. He needs to stop blaming that for what happened and just be real. If she didn't lie about her age, none of this would have happened.
@@slickrick2420 I’m a conservative and I find this judges actions abhorrent. He literally overruled this kids constitutional rights because it didn’t line up with his moral ideology. Also, please don’t generalize entire groups of people.
@@sportingdirector1 @sportingdirector1 SHE LIED ABOUT BEING 17 YRS OLD!!!! 7 FKN TEEN YEARS OLD!! THATS STILL UNDER THE AGE OF 18 AND 18 IS FEDERALLY THE AGE OF CONSENT!!! AND FEDERAL LAW SURPASSES STATE LAWS, AND HE WAS STILL KNOWINGLY AND WILLINGLY GOING TO GO FK WITH AN UNDERAGE 17 YR OLD MINOR! HE DESERVES CAPITAL PUNISHMENT OR AT THE VERY LEAST, in prison. AND... WHO TF GETS A 17 YR MIXED UP WITH A 14 YR OLD!? IM SURE SHE LOOKED, TALKED, ACTED, AND BEHAVED 14 TOO, AND HE IGNORED IT.
It's always on the adult in the situation to be responsible. We don't generally hold children to the same standard as adults. We as a society have decided they don't have the requisite knowledge or maturity to make important life choices.
Don't agree with a so harsh punishment for someone that is not of age yet. But if you lie about your age, them who acts on these lies and have consensual sex with you should not be punished.
@@Coletrain.sp. cause his town knows who is he. People are horrible and very judgmental. Jobs will see that on his record (unless it was sealed) but he was on the news. Who knows what kind of job he could get.
She should've not been on any dating app since she was 17. She should be in jail for lying about her age and having an online dating profile while being underage.
I couldn't agree with you more! That judge made it personal in my eyes. So insanely wrong. Most judges I've seen are 60s,70s, and are stuck in their ways. They may be a judge, but that doesn't make them inhuman. We're all creatures of habit
Ikr! Personally I don't like hook up culture either, but ruining a boy's entire life like that for the judge's own personal values and beliefs is just sickening.
so the judge decided to ignore the “victims”pleads because he disagrees with the culture of hooking up. That’s a joke, how is that justice? That’s literal bias
@@chriscross7709 this so called judge is nothing more than an idiot in my eyes, his decision to convict was based off his own biased opinion, he should be disbarred
There is a difference between facts and opinions the judge based this case off of opinions. Hopefully someone makes a law that prevents judges from defining punishments based off of personal beliefes
There are many similar cases. I feel very sad for another case, Brian Banks who was accused of rape when he was 16, a football star at high school, about to get full scholarship to his favorite university. He went to jail due to false accusation which the girl later admit on Facebook. He was released at 26. Lost everything. Rape is very wrong but thing like unnecessary punishments and false accusations need to stop too.
False accusations are shit. People will believe a woman and not even care about the evidence or the real facts. They ruin people’s lives and I’m so freaking tired of it. This happened to Tobuscus and look what that did. This also happens to a lot of innocent people. Why do that? Why lie? There is no good reason. It’s just so shitty.
THERE NOT CASES THERE ATTACKS ON THE MALE GENDER BY FAR LEFT SOCIAL WORKERS AND SEX COPS THE BOY HAD SEX WITH A GIRL AND WAS GIVEN THE PUNISHMENT OF A OLD SEX PREDITOR HE INNOCENTLY USED THE INTERNET HE IN NO WAY S ILIGAL OR PREDITOR a teenager fucked a teenager like in every COMMING OF AGE AMERICAN MOVIE A OLDER TEN BOY IN HIS HOT ROD CAR AND HIS SLIGHTLY YOUNGER TEEN AGE GF....EVERY BABY BOOMER COUPLE WAS LIKE THIS EVERY GRAN AND GRANDFATHER TODAY DID THIS EVERY AMERICAN MIDDLECLASS HOME WAS FORMED LIKE THIS ONE TEENAGER FUKING ANOTHER TEENAGER IS NOT PEDO YOU GOT BRAINWASHED INTO THINKING IT WAS LOL NO SMART PHONE OR INTERNET WHEN ONE THERE IS NOTHING WRONG HERE AND TWO SHE LIED NOT HIM ANTHER CASE OF FAR LEFT SJW LESBIAN WHITE MALE HATERS GETTING WHAT THEY WANT WITCH IS WHITE MALES DEMONISED I WAS 17 WHEN MY 15 YR OLD GF GOT PREGGY NO CHARGES NO FINGER POINTING JUST A HAPPY CPL AND THERE KID THEN A HOUSE THEN I BROUGHT A HOUSE NOTHING PEDO WAS GOING ON AT ALL COMPLETE AND UTTER HORSE SHIT THIS WORLD IS COMMING TO THERES EVEN 10 YR OLD BOYS ON THE SEX REG IN THE UK 10 YR OLD KIDS ON A SEX/PEDO REGESTER WAKE UP WESTERN WORLD YOUR FREEDOM IS BEING STOLEN
This is why when I hear people justify their warped beliefs with "it's just my opinion", I want to smack tf outta them. Opinions are the foundation of actions and if someone holds the opinion that casual sex is wrong, do you honestly think they won't do everything in their power to make your life hell if you have casual sex should they have the power to do so?
Is it worse than spending an eternity in hell for sinning against God? Sex before marriage is a sin. But we all sin and fall short of the glory of God, the good thing is that if you turn from sin and believe in Jesus that He dies and rose again, He will save you, clean you up, and begin to show you how to live right for Him. In my opinion it’s better to suffer for something good than to be justly punished for a wrongdoing.
Ok so not only is his reputation ruined for 25 years but, he can’t live with his own family, he can’t use internet, he can’t go to public parks, and he can’t use a computer???? So when exactly can that judges license be revoked, because that is just completely ridiculous and cruel
+misterwoothead Except this happened in Michigan which is considered a "swing state." (That is, they are roughly split between voting Republican and voting Democrat.) But good job stereotyping an entire class of people based on incorrect facts.
He got charged 90 days for "meet, hook up, sex, sayonara" because the judge thought it was inappropriate behavior? Lmfao he charged him according to his morals not the law smh
Why people that grew up in such old time frames shouldn’t be aloud to judge today’s laws or people because they didn’t grow up in this time period so they don’t understand their opinions are irrelevant cuz the time period they grew up in was so different
@@billnythehighestguy690 their personal opinion shouldn't influence their sentencing at all. that why it shouldn't matter what time period they're from.
That judge never got none in school or his wife/girlfriend messed around that way. He believes in taking girls on dates 6 times and getting married before sex. LOSER.
Wow he can't live near a boat ramp he must have had sex with the boat ramp he should have act the boat ramp how old are you in the boat ramp would have said I'm two years old f****** sued need to be sued and a complaint file on his ass that's one thing I like doing I love filing paperwork on judges you can have all the fun you want in your courtroom but once they leave me away and I get back to the cell block I immediately got a pencil and a piece of paper in my hand now maybe it won't do anything but that's not the point the point is it'll create a record. That's the point.
Cloud9 the line “meet, hook up, have sex, sayonara is inappropriate” is something that should be said maybe in a church. The fact that that’s the first fucking argument the judge mentioned is fucking diabolical
Wumpis agreed. traditionalism isn’t the metric for justice. the constitution does not pertain to cultural changes, the constitution is the structure for which ways culture can change. this judge is disgraceful and has a personal bias.
I dont like the judge but thats basically how its like. Dating isnt dating anymore, it should be called f'ing LOL. They used to be called dating apps. Now they are called hook-up apps.
Amazing how we have a legal system that allows another mistake making human being the right to dictate your life and it's at their discretion when they want to clear you from being subject to it. All while they get paid and in another country it's probably 10 times worse.
I half way agree with the judge, people need to be more responsible when it comes to hook up and sex, but I dont always agree with the penalty! Sure, some things need to be dealt with, but how may be Subjectory! or should be open to debate.
Zeus. He is adult and can do adult things. The girl lied to the app and the guy. She is old enough to know lying is wrong and she should no be on that website. and was mostly likely vengeful. We cannot litigate all facets of morality. Sex is natural and not everyone can make a lasting connection.
@@zeusincoming282 Mate, it was the girls fault, the lad has even been taken off the perv list. In what way do people need to be more resposible about using a shagging app? The app is for over 18's only so why should he have to ID somone who lied about their age?
The judge’s reputation should definitely be called into question here so other judges can see this example and not put their personal bias into sentencing.
I have a friend on the registry for the EXACT same reason. The girl (she was 15, said she was 18, and he was 20) admitted to lying, and her mom begged the court to drop it when she realized what her daughter did. No dice. He's now 35 and he's still on the registry.
Seriously fucked. And he's one of the sweetest dudes ever. Married now, great husband and father.. thankfully he's a computer genius so he builds websites and crazy shit for people from home. I can't imagine what his options for work would be if he didn't have some skills built in before all of that went down. The system is wrecked in this respect, for sure.
Dragon Lord Skater XX XY XYX Multi Chromosomgutut The girl faked her age and had sex with someone older than her knowing he was older and she knew she was lying about her age, yet the guy didn't know of her actual true age because she lied to him. The girl is at fault not the guy who apparently was "thirsty for pussy". Please read the entire comment before saying something like that.
And that girl that lied about her age gets off Scott free. She should be on the sex offenders list because she lied to have sex. And she needs to be sitting in prison today. The stupid judges, in both trials need to be disbarred and debeanched for not having common sense. I hope that senator that drafted the law never gets reelected.
The judge: "Meet, hookup, have sex, sayonara. Totally inappropriate behavior" Hold on, was the girl he was with not also participating in this "inappropriate behavior"?
@Ph0uad Tbh shouldn't he of suspected her being under age, by just seeing her in person or even by hearing her voice . There was probably so many signs she was lying about her age
To those saying “Couldnt he tell that she was 14?” I’m 14. When I meet adults for the first time, they ask me if I’m going to college soon. A lot of people initially think I’m 18-ish. My older cousin who actually is 18 often gets confused as my younger cousin.
IKR when I was a 13 and 14 year old boy everybody were literally asking me the same exact questions. They even said I sounded like I was 18 or older. Those people saying that quote honestly just have a simple dumb mindset like that Judge. They're literally saying it like if it's some type of common sense like seriously? They wouldn't have even been able to tell the difference either so why even ask that question? Also... they haven't even seen the girl so why even ask in the first place!?
@jintie, I didn't repeat you, your explanation wasn't complete enough and I even find it a bit rude. They might not know One Direction so it might be good to mention it's their logo. It's not common knowledge. I feel like you were reacting because you want to get likes and now you're afraid that I might steal your shine? Guess what - I don't care about that. I was just trying to give a little more information. So if it's important to you, @all: please like jinties comment instead of mine.
This is particularly insane given how many actual predators are not even charged, but this guy has sex with someone he thought was legal and ends up getting this insane punishment.
She didn't tell him she was legal. She told him she was 17. He was 19. That would have still been illegal. He still should've been charged and registered as a sex offender. He should have served his 25 years on the registry. He could have done something to her that would have destroyed her innocence.
@@saraflint2982 Age of consent laws vary by state. A 17 year old is legally able to consent in both states involved. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_the_United_States
@@saraflint2982 First of all, 17 is legal in his state. Second of all, if he just so happened to live in a state where legal consent was 18 and up, 25 years on the registry is STILL outrageous for a hookup between two individuals with a 2 year gap. TWO. Numero DOS. Make a fist and pull one finger... and now the other. Two. 25 years for that? The law still needs to change. He's not a danger to society. And puh-lease. A 17 year old teenager like her is nowhere innocent in an app like that. Stop treating 17 year olds like they're children. With your logic, her inNoCenCe wouldn't have been destroyed if she was just one year older, which makes no sense psychologically.
@@saraflint2982 lmao 17 is legal in most developed countries today and no he shouldn’t have served his 25 years because some entitled brat lied about her age and single handily ruined tried to ruin this mans life
This is why the registry needs an overhaul, or better yet, needs to be gotten rid of. And we need laws punishing people who lie about their age in sexual encounters.
So the judge just casually ruined his life because he/she doesn't like when teens hookup and then not talk ever again. Sounds like someone got stood up one too many times.
The sad thing is, while the girl did lie and clearly should've been up front about her age as a disqualifier, both she and her mother advocated for Zach to walk. Instead, the judge made him a posterboy for "hookup culture". What!? That judges can interpret something like this and issue a ruling that has no basis in law is absolutely sickening. Thank God the kid's getting cleared, but the judge responsible has zero business being on the bench after this farce.
That's what I don't get. How is the judge able to press charges if the parents don't???? You hear about all these stories of football players knocking up teens and parents won't press charges so their daughter can get that child support money. That judge is on a power trip. Probably gets beat up by his wife when he goes home so he takes it out on poor teenagers who can't defend themselves
@@xostler in Australia the parents have nothing to do with it, whether they approve or disapprove. In some instances if the parents allow the sexual relationship to happen then they can be charged for sexual exploitation of a minor. Parental Permissions are a thing of the past
Rustedblade yes well this didn't take place in Australia, it took place in Indiana/Michigan, USA.... I'd sure hope parental permission isn't a thing of the past, because the parents are in fact responsible for their children. The is an issue of the State acting as if they were the offended party. When in fact, it had nothing to do with them.
this happened to me, but she wore a wig and 2 hours of make-up to look older. had high school stories and told me she planned for me to meet her mom we met on an adult only website because she gained unauthorized access to an interstate computer causing it to output fraudulent age(federal crime) to lure an adult to rape. Lied to detective about us meeting on an app called hangouts, which is impossible to meet on hangouts. obstructions to hide the other 204 victims testified to this under oath, I got no bail like a murderer. eventually released on an ankle monitor which i have paid over $6000 fees so far waiting for them to indict me for being raped. in Alabama, California, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Oklahoma, and Tennessee, it is illegal to lie or deceive and then obtain sex, adult impersonation is actually called *ra/pe, a 2nd degree felony but minor females can't consent to commit rap/e, even though minor males have been convicted, statutory rape laws allow females to commit rape against males imagine a perpetrator of rap/e, testifying against their victim, to lock up them up for being rap/ed law* Rape by fraud is defined as such in Tennessee: 39-11-106a Title definitions. (13) Fraud means as used in normal parlance and includes, but is not limited to, deceit, trickery, misrepresentation and subterfuge, and shall be broadly construed to accomplish the purposes of this title law.rutgers.edu/sites/law/files/Lies%20Rape%20and%20Statutory%20Rape__final%20edits__9781107108783c04_p194-253.pdf www.repository.law.indiana.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3010&context=ilj www.yalelawjournal.org/pdf/1153_3mf2xrp3.pdf gould.usc.edu/centers/clhc/events/feature/documents/Rubenfeld.pdf scholarship.law.nd.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1051&context=ndlr_online digitalcommons.law.utulsa.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1102&context=fac_pub digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=5956&context=fss_papers papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=964686 www.researchgate.net/publication/228134785_Adult_Impersonation_Rape_by_Fraud_as_a_Defense_to_Statutory_Rape nysbar.com/blogs/lawstudentconnection/2013/11/rape_by_fraud_deception_or_imp.html
Dude he got him self Into this he's 19 trying to have sex with a 17 year old that's still a crime but she turned out to be 14 just makes it even worse how could you not tell between a 17 year old body and 14 year old body your an idiot for thinking this is right it's sick In the U.S you can't have sex until your 18 legely
@@souljaspazzin federal and most states legal age is 16 in states with romeo&juliet laws, the age of consent is 12-14 but they can't consent to someone more than 4 years older. who's the idiot now
@@ihatecrackhead idk what state your talking about but the U.S legal age to have consent is 18 is the lowest there isn't 12-14 in the U.S the lowest of age in the world to have consent is in th Philippines this ain't the Philippines it's the U.S idiot
Why isn’t the girl being held for a crime? She was part of the “inappropriate behavior,” as the judge put it. I didn’t know inappropriate behavior was a crime punishable by imprisonment plus. His sentence is ridiculous.
Shadow King no not anyone but certain jobs as judges yes. Well kind of. Theres two types of judges really; you have judical activist and judges with restrait. Both legal. However what isnt is when a judge brings a bias to the court before the trial is over which is grounds for mistrial. In some cases even disbarment.
@@Kentrantran Incorrect. You're thinking of Angela Pasula, but she's not the one who passed Zach's initial sentence. The judge quoted in the video was Dennis Wiley, known in Michigan for passing excessively harsh sentences that make him sound like a religious lunatic.
This is so sad. You can tell this has broken a part of him. These sex offender registry laws are far too broad. They need to be chiseled and refined. I hate this for him.
Sorry about this but you sound like a new age femminst a real sex offender can only get punished if theres there is evidence that proves they did so also before you say a witnisse is not proof that anicdotal evidence
@Grumpy Man also thats super illegal cause she didnt press charges its like if you punch someone the police ask that person do you want to press charges
Kim keKim keeping my opinions of this matter to myself, but that's not how it works when it comes to 'rape' or rather consensual sex with a minor(knowing or not)
The judge ruined his life just because he doesn't like his lifestyle, he let his feelings interrupt his duties as a judge and he should be released from his position immediately.
The judge literally based his sentence on sex shaming hookup culture. Just because you’re so stale and fragile doesn’t mean no one else should be on dating apps either.
Do you know how many young men are in prison right now for the same scenario? Their lives are being ruined and these girls go free to act how they want to act. The law leaves no room for common sense or situational reasoning. They will get out of prison and be marked as a sexual offender for the rest of their lives. They will be harassed, unable to work, and harass some more. This is ridiculous.
You can see the kid is completely traumatized. Even though he is off the list now, his life is forever ruined by judgemental people. Such a sad case this one...
to be honest, he shouldve have of course he should be punished for like a month at most, but 25 sex offender and 5 year probation wtf thats a cruel and unusual punishment
I never thought I would defend someone convicted of being a sex offender, but the judge needs to be looked into. This sounds personal and I do not feel he’s a criminal. Even the victim and her family finds this to be corrupt.
The judge sending him to jail for "hooking up" is ridiculous. Not only does that have nothing to do with the case, but it's not illegal. He got sent to jail because the judge personally disagreed with Zach's decision and to combat what the judge feels is something dangerous that had been engrained in the culture. That judge should be prosecuted for a false sentence, especially after the "victim" and her mother admitted that the "victim" lied about her age.
I agree with you plus she has said she was 17 and giving him his consent. This is bad parenthood from both sides and the judge has been complaining because she was a woman I've seen it in her eyes how this is equality if he was she, the things would be different.
@@CthRage8946 if a child lies about their age, that doesn’t mean you’re not guilty. It’s your responsibility as an adult to make sure your partners are of age and not just take their word for it.
@@Alex_W99 Yes but the law is clear about the age of consent, their partners are not guilty of mindless teenagers engaging in dangerous endeavours her mother should've been cautious about her daughter internet life, if she had spoted dangerous activity she should have putted limitations on the data trafficking on the daughter side.
yah one of my friend, when she was 14 y people thought she was 20 or even 24 and she does look way older then she is (Sorry for my English, it isn´t my firs language)
Ava X he never said for them to be in incarnated, he’s probably just thinking they should get in trouble and have to do something like community service.
Closet Pedophiles are often non-violent, and they look exactly just like him, tbh! Yes, people in this hookup culture are softer when it comes to kid on kid, but under the law he is NO LONGER a kid, but a fully grown ADULT! That's where the hookup cultures fk up!
It is illegal for a minor to use a fake ID to acquire alcohol or tobacco, *so why is it NOT illegal for a minor to use fake id to trick someone into consenting to sex???*
Yup he isn’t on the list anymore. He’s completely free.
Michael Howe really, thank god
Do you have proof, I believe you I just wanna see it.
R Alexandra ty
Yes
Let's goo
He was catfished. That’s the crime.
He wasn’t catfished 😭 she lied her age
JHS SQUAD that’s literally catfishing
christy capers yes! Catfish should be a crime lol
I need a picture of an ID bitch lol
Completely unfair and unjust what this man is going through.
Update for everyone: he’s been taken off the list
Thank god.
🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀
my nephew is basicly in same boat as this kid.he was 19 at a party with friends and hooked up with someone who turned out to be underage.judge was understanding about it cuz for real most people arnt gonna ask for an id.but years later a different judge decided to take it back to court and now hes on the list.system is messed up.
Tyler B thats fucked... every system in this country is broken tbh
Thank God
When I was Deputy in Orlando, we had a guy in a bar drinking. He met a girl there who was also drinking, so safe to assume she has to be at least 21. Takes her to a motel, then fast forward. Turns out she is 16 and OPD arrested him and then they sentenced him to jail and sex offender status. Bar did not get in trouble for serving minors, because she had a fake ID. As far as I know, she never got in any trouble either. Now just exactly how was that guy guilty of anything? The law has to be about JUSTICE and should be flexible and open to interpretation, not just about blindly sticking to the letter of the law like a malevolent robot.
I disagree. Ignorance of the law is never an excuse, so neither is ignorance of circumstances. I hope that he's still in prison.
@@DarthVil Ragebaiter spotted
@@DarthVillol ur pathetic
@@DarthVil She lied to him and had a fake ID
@@DarthViltroll
What a terrible judge. That judge shouldn't be one anymore.
Some teenage girl should claim to be 18, have sex with the judge, and get HIM sent to prison.
After all, if being lied to isn't a defense...
The judge should be in two :D
Abe Arin The age's 17, and 19 are very close. So with your logic, it's weird for a 34 year-old to have sex with a 32 year-old?
wtfitzal LOL, SO TRUE.
Abe Arin your actually a dumbass.
The judge basically convicted him because he didn't like the culture of a one night stand.
Judge handed down a prejudicial decision. Even stated his "personal bias" in it. An appeal would have caused this conviction to be over turned. Get the judge off the bench. Parents could sue the girls family and the state for this
Exactly exactly u ah smart man 🖕🏾dese judges 🖕🏾12
Darnell Onyewu Thompson that’s bullshit imo.
That judge is fucking asshole.
The reason why i hate judges. I know there has to be someone to deside punishments and stuff but why is their opinion the way it should be. They choose if someone behaves right or not like wtf
So basically the judge acknowledged that he was innocent and didn’t know she was under age and still convicted him because he doesn’t like hookups. The judge needs to be convicted
The judge is a hater . If he cant get what other people can he hates on it .
I'm sorry are you new to planet earth? Just in case you should know that our justice system is farcical, Murderers get a slap on the wrist and innocent people are thrown in jail every minute of every day. Also welcome it's not as bad as it looks!
@@ReaganKimberley jaycat
You're damned right.
yup
I heard a story about a nine-year-old girl who was molested by her father and repeated the behavior on her younger siblings, as she was told it was normal by her abuser. She's now a registered sex offender for life. There needs to be a distinction made between sex offenders who are violent, sadistic rapists and sex offenders who got caught taking nudes of themselves when they were seventeen. Otherwise, justice is poorly served.
Unfortunately, most people are too scared the topic to make those distinctions.
Nah she is sick. 😂
@@ghostsamongus3370LOL!
@@jacksputrid she is though. Still doesn't make it normal or right
@@ghostsamongus3370 she was 9 years old sexually abusing her siblings. LIFE!
tf? take him off the list. she admitted she lied.
lucy n facts like that’s unfair his life is ruined cuz of her!
Exactly!!
@@mayhulk7514 yeah its been 5 years
Facts
Honestly she should be the one being punished because she gave a false identity to him and also is on an adult dating app being only 14 years old. I am glad the mom and daughter didn’t try to give him extra time though.
"its inappropriate to have sex and not be married"
so the judge sentenced him due to religious reasons
Which, might i add to your statement, is unconstitutional depending on how you look at it.
Bruh
Sue the judge
Did the judge say anything about marriage?
Also in the Bible both parties paid the consequences. So if they're not going to do anything to her, his sentence should be lighter. They should allow him to have a normal life because some of them judges did the same things or worse when they were teenagers. I will agree with Justice, but also Mercy.
Seriously, she admitted that she lied and the mom said that she didn't want this kid punished. But because the judge can't get any, now everyone has to suffer
The dude got removed from the sex offender registry
Thobeka Mene You know that’s the most unfunny thing I’ve ever heard.
The Dating WebSite should be held accountable!
Don't you need to use a credit card to join?
It's same if you meet a girl (or boy) at a bar. You take it for granted,
that he/she has had their ID checked!. The Judge is an asshole with an ax to grind!
The Judge probably never "got any" as a teen and is probably an evangelical, who preaches, then gets caught in a public bathroom, seducing young boys!
EXACTLY 🙄🤦♀️👍👍
@@greentea4374 Speak for yourself, I thought it was hilarious.
Wow, that judge needs to be disbarred.
Many judges and prosecutors do
That would also be too extreme.
Ok@@piercehubbard4086
Well the good thing is apparently he was taken off the registry. So not sure what goes on there but yeah the prosecution went too far along with the judge
I hope the judge truly realizes that he has ruined this kids life
tried to, he's not on the registry anymore.
@Waxoff Waxon She lied to him about her age dumbfuck!
Waxoff Waxon she lied about her age dipshit
He doesn't care. They think they are gods. A judge tried to take my daughter away because I'm in drug treatment but had been off drugs before I got pregnant.. And all I had was a public prosecutor so I was almost shit out of luck if the drug program hadn't stepped in and told him he's breaking a federal law and if they do this this will take him to the supreme court. Thank god for those people! Uneducated old ass judges that are mad at society and how the world is changing and are stuck in the good ole boy system..
Ikr
The only criminal i can see is the judge. He tried to ruin a kids life cause he didnt like his lifestyle.
They're supposed to be the VOICE of the law, not THE law.
This isn't about the Girl or the Boy. It's about a 5 Years of Probation Cash Cow. It's about Racketering and Extortion.
Joe Nathan White yea that judge needs to be fired or whatever. That’s BS
finna use mangekyo sharingan on her
the judge is part of a corrupt system paid for by billions of dollars of a lie of justice. the criminal justice justice is a lie for rich people that can afford the attorneys to defend them. state attorney and defense attorney with the the judges collaborate while playing golf and eating on taxpayer monies. its a shame that the people allow this, its a shame that the people allow this blatant perversion of the founders plan. this goes beyond this this shows how law makers are corrupted by lobbyists who pay millions to make law. its sad really sad and the media lies to you.
That judge should be removed. His personal opinion is over ruling justice.
Condemning someone because you don't like that people hookup is not justice.
It's kind of still his fault for trusting an online site and then doing someone in a play ground i mean ......tf man??🤦he just broke a law of public indecency
@@SomeGuy-fl1gz and you broke a law of human decency
the judicial system gives to much power to judges thats why men who commit rape get 7-15 years and women get no time or less than 1 year...
@@coltonhoppe there are a lot of reasons but yeah that’s one
MEANWHILE MICHAEL JACKSON BRIBED EVERY JUDGE AND NEVER SPENT A DAY IN JAIL.
Convict the judge to 90 years behind bars. Better yet throw away the key. No person like that should be a judge.
Lying about your age should be extremely illegal offense
FPSKoda4 right people could be killed and raped in jail for this stuff.
It’s no joke.
Fucking True!!!
@@nunyuh111 I watch a guy called Larry lawton who was a convict and he tells the truth about the prison system
OTB ACiDz I watch him too!
FPSKoda4 I’m 100 years old
Judge: "meet, hookup, have sex, sayonara. Totally inappropriate behavior"
and off what law are you basing this statement?
I thought the same Mr. Douchebag
Religious or conservative nut cakes. I have no idea how these people are allowed to operate as part of the law while clearly they are incapable of objective views.
@Snow Wolf I'm a liberal and I would still call out on her bs. My point is the judge was clearly not able to come up with an objective view and destroyed this guy for personal beliefs. People like that have no place in the justice system.
Judges that base the ruling off of their personal moral beliefs need to be uprooted from their positions...
@@FurlowT Exactly. Ignoring the fact that other people's sex lives should be private and not go depending on your personal beliefs, the judge did not even take into account that he's a kid that says stupid stuff that he should not in court. Because, you know, HE'S A KID.
This man is traumatized man, you can literally see throughout the whole video he’s depressed, he probably feels like he’s a monster for sleeping with someone underage, especially a 14 year old.
Lesson learned don't trust anyone, especially online. Didn't he know people of his age that were not online???
@@TempleofBrendaSong nice try professor.
LSA DXM THC DPH DaYum we all know that teenage girls can lie about their age for sinister agendas.
Can’t just fuck anything that walks hro
@@Eastsidee817 im 21 and still never kissed anyone. I'm eating 40 benadryls my body will be found in a Denver playground
i was arrested in 2007 for similar reasons. at the age of 27. in my instance, my only crime was being in a 21 or older byob bar and giving a ride to a girl. i dropped her off at the house where she slept with her 21 yr old boyfriend. turns out she was the 15 yr old daughter of the DJ. she didnt want to get her boyfriend in trouble so she pointed the finger at me... i spent 2 yrs on a 75k bond. my grandmother had to refinance her home to pay the bond. we spent thousands in legal fees and i too ALMOST ended up on that predator list... there needs to be moree protection of men, instead of just throwing them under the bus every time.
Honestly at this point, sombody just needs to sue the Judical branch. At its heart, it's a corrupt and failed system that's caused more problems than its worth and put more innocents and mentally ill in jail than the actually 'guilty'
dam
I feel like you're the hiding truth in your story.
Why did you get in trouble?
What do you mean she pointed the finger at you, how is it anything to do with you?
What does her being the dj's daughter have to do with anything, or do you mean she was there when she shouldn't have been simply because she was the Dj's daughter? How did you not know the difference between a 15yo and a 21 yo? Why were you driving her around? If you are innocent, then you should have fought harder because I don't see how you're any part of this unless they determined that you were guilty given the sheer number of questions that you seemingly thought were not red flags and still continued to make the choices that you made.
@@chirpbirds924 i think DJ is District judge?
Oh, hahaha@@someanimeshortssas2752
that’s horrible. the judge should not be a judge anymore.
At least he is free now
nvm, didn't expect people to be reasonable.
It is not the fault of the judge. That kid should be ashamed of herself for putting this boy through hell
@@totoromar but still the girl should have not lied about her age so she is just as much to blame. So i am sticking to what i had said
@@annetteslife The ones that put the kid through hell is the laws and peoples views not the kid, she did nothing wrong, nor did he.
They did nothing wrong to begin with.
To those who say, "he should have known" Really? I've met 13 year olds who look 20 and 25 year olds who look 12.
Right? Who asks for ID when they're going on a date?
Hey wassup girl, hey real quick before we get down for some hot action, can I check out yo id?
Historian23 exchanging ids enhances the experience.
@@shadowninja958 I have to say that driving twenty miles to bang a girl that you've never met is pretty lame.
Gold Winger the laws about this shit break themselves
Update for everyone
(A revised sentence took his name off the sex offender registry and granted him a second chance under a Michigan law called the Holmes Youthful Trainee Act, which offers leniency to first-time offenders who are young adults. If Zach successfully completes the terms of his probation, he will have no criminal record and it will be “as if it never happened,” said Les Anderson.)
Thats great and all but sooo many people have seen his story, every job he tries to get everyone will know.
wait isn't he attracted to kids since he slept with a 14 year old?
@@owenn4i think that would be discrimination against Zach bc he has already proven his innocence about the case and his criminal charges being dismissed so if a job were to disallow him from joining just bc of an incident that he was being framed then he has the right to seek legal action against them for discriminating him
@@Spectre-tv7wiemployers who excluded him will never admit that, despite the boy being declared innocent, they didn't wanna employ him because he's been (wrongfully) a Sex Offender from a technical POV. They would just tell the judge in court they didn't see him fit for some other reason and get away with that and still not employing the boy.
" i would think he would have asked for her ID."
Yes, because every time i meet someone, i immediately ask them for their ID, birth certificate, last 4 of their social, you know, the essentials...
You got that right lol
Same.
If you were in the habit of having sex with 17 year old girls you barely know then it wouldn't be that strange to ask for confirmation of age. If he had met her family even once he would have known her age. Dude fucked up.
@@hotcrazycatladyme168 She didn't ask for her id a guy can lie about his age as well, it would have been just as messed up if a 14 year old boy lied about his age to a girl
When your hormones are in charge your not thinking ID check! RC
Just a little update for you guys:
He was taken off the sex offender list, the parents started a petition and gathered over 200k supporters. I am happy Zach can now live life how he deserved but disappointed that they didn't take the charges off immediately when the daughter and mom even said it wasn't his fault.
What she did is called Rape in some states
Rape by fraud is defined as such in Tennessee:
39-11-106a Title definitions.
(13) Fraud means as used in normal parlance and includes, but is not limited to, deceit, trickery, misrepresentation and subterfuge, and shall be broadly construed to accomplish the purposes of this title;
Obtaining intercourse through fraud, just as force or coercion, constitutes rape because it vitiates the consent of the victim. Tennessee prohibits intercourse "induced by deception," "accomplished by fraud," and obtained by "ruse."
thanks for this.. that boy did NOTHING wrong
Is he able to use his phone and computer now?
I'm happy for him
Thanks for the addendum
I hate rapists and pedophiles, but these circumstances are different, the charge and punishment is unfair. The justice system has failed us in this case.
Bryon you shouldn't be on the bad guys side just because they are black, iv'e seen this type of wrong justice everywhere so stop.
Dnekar you shouldn’t have sex when you first meet someone anyway, that’s so stupid
How can you hate them, I love the I'm by VIGINA
Failed us? No, it failed this poor kid. He's in a fucked up situation.
Dnekar THE MOM AND DAUGHTER LITERALLY SAID NOT TO CALL THEM A VICTIM AND THEY STILL DO THIS TO HIM
One of the most shocking things is the judge's line on hookup culture. It suggests he is punishing him for promiscuity rather than for the age difference, its like the judge recognizes this was actually a consesual encounter and just doesn't care. That is sick.
More out of control judges putting their own two cents in.
I still don't understand how your whole future can be decided by the personal beliefs or even the mood of a judge. Judge needs to be fired.
Imagine being black in a time during segregation and having a white judge
@@trailersandteasers3421 and a 100% white racist jury of "your peers".
@@UnknownGamer40464 thats what happened to Emmett Till. Two racists murdered and tortured him over a lie and the all white jury let them go.
@Diego Arteaga Lopez ok
@Diego Arteaga Lopez calling someone black is not discriminatory in anyway 😐
Her: "Hey come over, my parents aren't home"
Me: "Licence and registration please"
right 😂😂 poor kid, hope the best for him 🙏
Nice
Hehehe
It's sad that the law actually does work that way. Even if the girl showed you a fake driver's license that said she was 21, you can still be convicted if she's actually underage.
In many states, THERE IS NO LEGAL DEFENSE if you are catfished by a minor, no matter how many efforts the minor took to conceal/misrepresent their age. If you two had sex, you're guilty, regardless of the facts and circumstances.
well why not honestly.. it would be smart. And done jokingly it would not even be such a turnoff. Were I to raise a son, I'd tell him to jokingly get proof of every girl's age. You could do that in a non-serious manner, like when you're out and she's presenting a licence for getting a drink "hey let me see that picture of yours" (of course when jumping into bed 5 min after meeting that s difficult..). And the law, you have to admit, actually makes sense if you consider young immature girls. They ARE frequently preyed upon by much older guys exploiting vulnerabilities (trouble or neglect at home, developmental delays, intellectual or mental deficits, drug abuse, sexual abuse at home etc). This guy is the atypical older guy with sexual relations with a minor, and considering the facts of the case it is right to give him a much more lenient sentence. But not all of them, by far, are "good guys", on the contrary.
I like how the parents are supportive because he didn’t do anything wrong.
No parents should ever blame their child for something they did not commit...
3310 3310 i wish my mom could understand this
Psycho Sammy who hurt you 🥺
@@cordawg686 their mom apparently
Cory Johnson talk about projecting 😔
There is a big issue with what the judge said. He said he was sentencing the way he did because he disagrees with hookup culture and said nothing about the age difference.
Hookup culture is not illegal and his opinion of it should have nothing to do with this teen’s punishment. I can’t believe the lawyer didn’t cling to that for the appeal.
I caught that, too. I am in 100% agreement with his position on hookup culture, but that has zero basis on the case. That judge should be removed from the bench, and disbarred, permanently. He should also be jailed for the same length of time that the young man was jailed.
I wonder how many other people he convicted for violating his personal morals? Every single one of his cases should be reviewed.
I’m proud of the Mom and the daughter for not being entitled brats about the situation and are actually trying to Defend Zach. Cheers to the mom and daughter
Sounds like the mom of the daughter just wanted to understandably know the whereabouts of her daughter...and it turned into a way bigger thing
Nice profile pic *MOM*
Yeah. They are certainly the heros in this situation. Dumbass!
Exactly
She shouldn't be given any sort of respect. Accident or not, she ruined this boy. Plain and simple.
clearly sounds like the judge is sentencing the poor guy based on his personal beliefs.
sr20DETdrift it's certainly not justice
MORE LIKE HIS BUSINESS ASSOCIATIONS ! THESE CORRUPT OFFICIALS. USE THEIR POSITIONS IN POWER 4 RETALIATION.
JUST ASK HUMBOLDT COUNTY. ? THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE.....
Nooo why would a judge ever do that? It's about *juuuuuuustiiiiiicee*
sr20DETdrift well even though it is messed up, he did technically commit a crime, even if he didn’t know it. (But I would like to see a picture of the girl to see if she looks 14 or 17)
@@elizaog exactly though, it is a technicality that landed this guy in jail. Are we suppose to check I.D now when dating? even if we do, what if the I.D is fake? This all could have been handled much better considering her family and herself were apologetic and wanted charged dropped.
This kid ain’t no offender, he wouldn’t hurt a fly
Willy Rivas - They said the same thing about Jared Fogle.
They took him of the list
Idknonly weirdos use hot or not!
Luis Z you stupid as hell and you’re racist
pickle man preach brother
It’s funny that this kid will be paying 25 year sentence for a non criminal offense but thousands of criminal are released with no consequences after murder, assault and many others crimes. The system is really broken.
Oh yes the system is completely broken 😞
Why is nobody talking about the fact that he cannot stay at his parents' house because IT'S WITHIN 800 FEET OF A BOAT RAMP. WTF?!
Yeah seriously, don't leave him at home where he's supervised 24/7 by his parents, put him in a house by himself....
Because everyone saw it and felt no need to mention it because everyone else who watched this noticed that
@@alexradice8163 You poor thing.
Hahahaha foreal that’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard
Probably a public ramp, and because Michigan is such a terrible place, they probably consider that a park or some garbage.
Judges like that sicken me... They are willing to utterly destroy someone's life to "Teach a lesson"...
Lawbreakers deserve justice.
@@testingchannel5233 I'm assuming your trying to start some kind of argument. Either that or you didn't watch the whole thing.
or make an example of him
@@sarahgrace3760 The only example this is, is of how you shouldn't trust anyone, let alone the Judicial system. He's being punished for her lieing and the judge's personal moral beliefs. The Judges moral beliefs should never be a factor in court of law, his job is strictly to interpret the law and deal out punishment in according to the law. The guy is the victim in this case, other than being tricked by a lie, he broke no laws. So he shouldn't be getting punishment for it, even to be an example.
@@testingchannel5233 Haha Haha you're so funny bud!
That judge essentially used a legal technicality to go after someone who wasnt a criminal just because he disagreed with his lifestyle. That judge needs to be put on trial, this is abuse of power, straight and simple, and he didnt even attempt to hide it.
Nada Kahil honestly why should Zach be punished for wanting to smash and pass as long as the girl is good with it older people are so old school
no honestly that was the most fucked up part. like the judge literally said himself that it wasn't the crime he just doesn't like hookup culture so he fucked the kid up. the fact a justice system can even come down to the judge not liking something is a broken system
The judge is a asshole
@Angry Combat Wombat you obviously don't know what your talking about, he had NO knowledge that she was 14, think of this like a 14 year old trying to get into a porn site, the porn site can't know that the 14 year old is there all they can do is give warnings that you have to be 18, so basically the 14 year old gets on a ADULT dating site and lies about their age and nobody can do anything about it, he thought they would be old enough because it's a adult site but she wasn't and I have no idea why she would think that it's OK to lie when she could easily get a man her age to have sex with as that's not illegal. He shouldn't have even been in jail in the first place, that judge was just being biased beyond belief.
Angry Combat Wombat That’s some logic you’ve got there. You do know judges can use their discretion when judging cases right?
He’s still a kid to me. How does that judge sleep at night knowing she caused this kid all these problems!
Agreed. Although he was of legal age, he was still a teenager doing what many teenagers do. He thought she was only a year or two younger than him.
Way to destroy a young man's life. This guy will never be able to go to college, have a decent mortgage affordable job, or be comfortable in ever meeting another woman again and possible ever getting married and being able to raise a family. In other words, you have help to create a person who crime and drugs will most likely be in his future. Why not just pull the trigger yourself judge, you clearly wanted to destroy a young man's life.
@@HassanSharieff ironic
@@EmperorBob How so? You seem to disagree with the statement that the judge is unfair, which is highly ridiculous and honestly despicable. People who agree with the judge dont deserve to live normal lives. They should go to fucking jail.
@@allxrtx6594 you clearly didnt get what i meant moron. The guy called the judge retarted so i said ironic. Figure out why
@@EmperorBob People lack grammar around here lad.
@@SkepticGamer yeah xD
That judge should be removed from service.
Sorry for the typo
@@michaelm4870 then edit your comment
absolutely
That’s the bigger problem. These people holding peoples lives in the balance
Amen!!!!
If the victims MOTHER is siding with the "sex offender". That's when you know this wasn't a sex offense.
The victim sided with him as well
MEANWHILE MICHAEL JACKSON BRIBED EVERY JUDGE AND NEVER SPENT A DAY IN JAIL.
Yeah because older women are way more educated, enough to understand who is right when it comes to sex offenders, she knows her son is not guilty, ALWAYS trust the mother when it comes to this
@@dante6055 Well in the case they call her victim, never said she was innocent if she didn't lie about her age should wouldn't have wasted this guy's time. Also that judge was stupid to put him on that list
@@dante6055 And in the comment it says “victims mother” so shouldn't you be saying it to them
Injustice at its worst. God bless you and your family Zach.
Remember young men: When you meet a woman, ask for their ID and make sure they sign a 10 page consent form! It's the only way to stay out of jail.
Ridiculous.
Daniel Sadjadi Oh yeah it is just soooo not weird to ask someone for their ID. It is totally normal to just ask for a girl's ID before proceeding into a romantic interest. Come on man. Also, there are consent forms! This isn't a rare anecdote. This happens and it happens A LOT.
Checking id isnt that hard
Jombo ik ur being sarcastic but I think this sadly may be the future of relationships of any caliber
You know what it is very ridiculous but to be honest with you way things are right now in the way things are going it’s sad to say it but I just have to start doing it . And I’m sorry for making light of it but I know everyone member South Park episode with pc principal passing out the consent forms
Someone could easily fake an ID. You never know
Who the hell asks to see a drivers license before a hook up? And not all 14 year olds look like babies. When I was 13, people used to think that I was 16-18 because of how old I looked & how I dressed. I'm so glad that he got taken off the list.
Skyler Grey // Fifty Shades Freed same here!
Skyler Grey // Fifty Shades Freed same like ever since I was 13 people have thought I was in my early twenties
+Sarah Burggraf +wHaTEveN Yeah, some people age a lot over the years where as others sprout at a young age. I sprouted at 11 and have barely grown/changed since.
Skyler Grey // Fifty Shades Freed and it's the reverse with my sister she's 21 but people always think I'm older than her, some people look alot older while others look younger.
Skyler Grey // Fifty Shades Freed people get fake licenses all the fucking time. Ask for one does pretty much nothing
“The judge condemned what he called the culture of ‘meet, hookup, have sex, sayonara’.” That judge should be fired, that is 100% the judge taking his own personal opinion to determine weather a person is guilty. With the family not even wanting to press charges it’s ridiculous that he even went to jail. I smell a lawsuit.
Exactly. You can't be jailed for premarital sex. He needs to stop blaming that for what happened and just be real. If she didn't lie about her age, none of this would have happened.
100%, having a one night stand is not a crime. There is a difference between inappropriate and illegal behavior.
A judge deciding based on personal sexual morals that have nothing to do with law is what is truly scandalous here.
These conservatives are ruining people's lives with their anti-freedom ideology
@@slickrick2420 I’m a conservative and I find this judges actions abhorrent. He literally overruled this kids constitutional rights because it didn’t line up with his moral ideology. Also, please don’t generalize entire groups of people.
If you lie about your age, YOU should go to jail. Not the guy who thought you were of age.
??? Your logic is hella twisted
Because you're the one getting the other person in trouble when they're actually following the age rules @@KoopaHigh
@@sportingdirector1 @sportingdirector1 SHE LIED ABOUT BEING 17 YRS OLD!!!! 7 FKN TEEN YEARS OLD!! THATS STILL UNDER THE AGE OF 18 AND 18 IS FEDERALLY THE AGE OF CONSENT!!! AND FEDERAL LAW SURPASSES STATE LAWS, AND HE WAS STILL KNOWINGLY AND WILLINGLY GOING TO GO FK WITH AN UNDERAGE 17 YR OLD MINOR! HE DESERVES CAPITAL PUNISHMENT OR AT THE VERY LEAST, in prison. AND... WHO TF GETS A 17 YR MIXED UP WITH A 14 YR OLD!? IM SURE SHE LOOKED, TALKED, ACTED, AND BEHAVED 14 TOO, AND HE IGNORED IT.
It's always on the adult in the situation to be responsible. We don't generally hold children to the same standard as adults. We as a society have decided they don't have the requisite knowledge or maturity to make important life choices.
Don't agree with a so harsh punishment for someone that is not of age yet. But if you lie about your age, them who acts on these lies and have consensual sex with you should not be punished.
The girl should have a limited internet access so she doesn’t do this again
well shes definitly not going to try this move ever again thats for sure
Bullshit; she is the victim
E. Siler how is she the victim when she lies about her age? “bullshit” anymore?
@@ESiler did your parents ever tell you to not engage in conversations after you snorted 5 lines of coke?
H yes bro you have me dying “5 lines of coke” 🤣
Even though he’s off the registry, his life is still ruined.
Honestly Screw that Judge.
At least hes better off than most. He can work a job he likes from home and he has his own property.
How
@@Coletrain.sp. cause his town knows who is he. People are horrible and very judgmental. Jobs will see that on his record (unless it was sealed) but he was on the news. Who knows what kind of job he could get.
@@BaniBani_1998 He is a minor, his felons are automatically sealed
I get she was 14, but why is she writing like she’s 7💀
Have you ever met sex obsessed pre-teens? Not the brightest of people
Lmaoo
Plot twist: she's actually 7 and lied about being 17 and 14
"surprized"
Cuz
She should've not been on any dating app since she was 17. She should be in jail for lying about her age and having an online dating profile while being underage.
That judge's ruling leaves SO much room for appeal. He doesn't approve of "casual sex" so let's ruin this kids life? Hope the judge gets fired!
FnixGhod1 same
Truth!!
I couldn't agree with you more! That judge made it personal in my eyes. So insanely wrong. Most judges I've seen are 60s,70s, and are stuck in their ways. They may be a judge, but that doesn't make them inhuman. We're all creatures of habit
Judge is a complete prick for letting his personal beliefs override reason and circumstances.
Ikr! Personally I don't like hook up culture either, but ruining a boy's entire life like that for the judge's own personal values and beliefs is just sickening.
so the judge decided to ignore the “victims”pleads because he disagrees with the culture of hooking up. That’s a joke, how is that justice? That’s literal bias
Im just surprised the judge didn't charge the "victim" either because she also hooked up that night. All of tinder gonna catch a case with this judge.
@@chriscross7709 this so called judge is nothing more than an idiot in my eyes, his decision to convict was based off his own biased opinion, he should be disbarred
There is a difference between facts and opinions the judge based this case off of opinions. Hopefully someone makes a law that prevents judges from defining punishments based off of personal beliefes
@@courty1968 agreed. Some liberal judge could be against a conservative defendant and vice versa. Opinions shouldn’t be in a court room in that manner
@@enrique.guzman891 I just realized isn’t 17 still underage
There are many similar cases. I feel very sad for another case, Brian Banks who was accused of rape when he was 16, a football star at high school, about to get full scholarship to his favorite university. He went to jail due to false accusation which the girl later admit on Facebook. He was released at 26. Lost everything. Rape is very wrong but thing like unnecessary punishments and false accusations need to stop too.
Welp this is the world we live in :)
False accusations are shit. People will believe a woman and not even care about the evidence or the real facts. They ruin people’s lives and I’m so freaking tired of it. This happened to Tobuscus and look what that did. This also happens to a lot of innocent people. Why do that? Why lie? There is no good reason. It’s just so shitty.
Mr Leroy 42 dude I used to love him. what good channel. But because some bitch wants to ruin his life. Look what happened
Thomas Dowsett Well go back to his channel he has a video about what really happened. Tobuscus is coming back.
THERE NOT CASES THERE ATTACKS ON THE MALE GENDER BY FAR LEFT SOCIAL WORKERS AND SEX COPS THE BOY HAD SEX WITH A GIRL AND WAS GIVEN THE PUNISHMENT OF A OLD SEX PREDITOR HE INNOCENTLY USED THE INTERNET HE IN NO WAY S ILIGAL OR PREDITOR
a teenager fucked a teenager like in every COMMING OF AGE AMERICAN MOVIE A OLDER TEN BOY IN HIS HOT ROD CAR AND HIS SLIGHTLY YOUNGER TEEN AGE GF....EVERY BABY BOOMER COUPLE WAS LIKE THIS EVERY GRAN AND GRANDFATHER TODAY DID THIS
EVERY AMERICAN MIDDLECLASS HOME WAS FORMED LIKE THIS
ONE TEENAGER FUKING ANOTHER TEENAGER IS NOT PEDO YOU GOT BRAINWASHED INTO THINKING IT WAS
LOL NO SMART PHONE OR INTERNET WHEN ONE THERE IS NOTHING WRONG HERE AND TWO SHE LIED NOT HIM
ANTHER CASE OF FAR LEFT SJW LESBIAN WHITE MALE HATERS GETTING WHAT THEY WANT WITCH IS WHITE MALES DEMONISED
I WAS 17 WHEN MY 15 YR OLD GF GOT PREGGY NO CHARGES NO FINGER POINTING JUST A HAPPY CPL AND THERE KID THEN A HOUSE THEN I BROUGHT A HOUSE
NOTHING PEDO WAS GOING ON AT ALL COMPLETE AND UTTER HORSE SHIT THIS WORLD IS COMMING TO THERES EVEN 10 YR OLD BOYS ON THE SEX REG IN THE UK
10 YR OLD KIDS ON A SEX/PEDO REGESTER WAKE UP WESTERN WORLD YOUR FREEDOM IS BEING STOLEN
HOW IS HE AT FAULT IF SHE LIED? Who are the idiots who made this decision???
*Corrupt woke judge and some girl with unresolved daddy issues who lied*
Well ,the judge obviously.
@@hejalllit’s kinda scary how judges can’t just get fired so they can use their power however they want
And who's I D I O T you?
It's disturbing to know that judges are making cases like this personal because of their own feelings and thoughts on casual sex.
Maybe the judge is into teenage girls and is jealous of the guy..
That part blew my mind. Completely biased decision because they don’t agree with “casual sex” in general
This is why when I hear people justify their warped beliefs with "it's just my opinion", I want to smack tf outta them. Opinions are the foundation of actions and if someone holds the opinion that casual sex is wrong, do you honestly think they won't do everything in their power to make your life hell if you have casual sex should they have the power to do so?
They probably don’t get any sex
Is it worse than spending an eternity in hell for sinning against God?
Sex before marriage is a sin. But we all sin and fall short of the glory of God, the good thing is that if you turn from sin and believe in Jesus that He dies and rose again, He will save you, clean you up, and begin to show you how to live right for Him.
In my opinion it’s better to suffer for something good than to be justly punished for a wrongdoing.
Ok so not only is his reputation ruined for 25 years but, he can’t live with his own family, he can’t use internet, he can’t go to public parks, and he can’t use a computer???? So when exactly can that judges license be revoked, because that is just completely ridiculous and cruel
@@randomguy211 Only after a massive public outcry against his absurd and unnecessary punishment.
Cade Estep the poor guy was lied to, I mean he really didn’t do anything wrong, he thought he was age given she said she was 17
Yeah even for actual pedos not sex list but for 5 years
Makes more sense for actual pedos though but I always fear I'm being set up for something and this doesn't help
+misterwoothead Except this happened in Michigan which is considered a "swing state." (That is, they are roughly split between voting Republican and voting Democrat.) But good job stereotyping an entire class of people based on incorrect facts.
He got charged 90 days for "meet, hook up, sex, sayonara" because the judge thought it was inappropriate behavior? Lmfao he charged him according to his morals not the law smh
good things happen to bad people
we are in a society
Why people that grew up in such old time frames shouldn’t be aloud to judge today’s laws or people because they didn’t grow up in this time period so they don’t understand their opinions are irrelevant cuz the time period they grew up in was so different
@@billnythehighestguy690 their personal opinion shouldn't influence their sentencing at all. that why it shouldn't matter what time period they're from.
That judge never got none in school or his wife/girlfriend messed around that way. He believes in taking girls on dates 6 times and getting married before sex. LOSER.
Wow he can't live near a boat ramp he must have had sex with the boat ramp he should have act the boat ramp how old are you in the boat ramp would have said I'm two years old f****** sued need to be sued and a complaint file on his ass that's one thing I like doing I love filing paperwork on judges you can have all the fun you want in your courtroom but once they leave me away and I get back to the cell block I immediately got a pencil and a piece of paper in my hand now maybe it won't do anything but that's not the point the point is it'll create a record. That's the point.
The judge just straight up said "I don't like casual sex, so I'm punishing you"
The judge must be a 50 years old virgin.
Alex Qiu older
He's probably religious and immune to logic.
Religious has nothing to dobwith it, hes just a douchebag
No, I bet he hasn’t even hit puberty
Cloud9 the line “meet, hook up, have sex, sayonara is inappropriate” is something that should be said maybe in a church. The fact that that’s the first fucking argument the judge mentioned is fucking diabolical
“Meet” “Hookup” “Have sex” “Sayonara”
Could a judge be any more unprofessional?
Wumpis agreed. traditionalism isn’t the metric for justice. the constitution does not pertain to cultural changes, the constitution is the structure for which ways culture can change. this judge is disgraceful and has a personal bias.
I dont like the judge but thats basically how its like. Dating isnt dating anymore, it should be called f'ing LOL. They used to be called dating apps. Now they are called hook-up apps.
“Have sex” isn’t terrible but still
Also, thats not ilegal, is his stupid opinion, and people are totally free to do it.
Wumpis idiot! He should not be a judge
No computer use? How would he be able to get any sort of job or further his education? Crazy
TroystonB that is sort of the point
@@rorymax i think the point is to limit contact
Amazing how we have a legal system that allows another mistake making human being the right to dictate your life and it's at their discretion when they want to clear you from being subject to it. All while they get paid and in another country it's probably 10 times worse.
Exactly he should be able to with at least supervision.
He’s off the list!!!! Thank goodness.
Our justice system is SO messed up.
So basically the judge used his conservative opinions about shagging apps to pin guilt on someone...
I half way agree with the judge, people need to be more responsible when it comes to hook up and sex, but I dont always agree with the penalty! Sure, some things need to be dealt with, but how may be Subjectory! or should be open to debate.
Zeus. He is adult and can do adult things. The girl lied to the app and the guy. She is old enough to know lying is wrong and she should no be on that website. and was mostly likely vengeful. We cannot litigate all facets of morality. Sex is natural and not everyone can make a lasting connection.
@@zeusincoming282 Mate, it was the girls fault, the lad has even been taken off the perv list. In what way do people need to be more resposible about using a shagging app? The app is for over 18's only so why should he have to ID somone who lied about their age?
@@michaelbalfour3170 they mean it when it's an adult and then again you got to be careful both ways
@@melissafradette479 there are lasting connections soul ties
I don't think a judge should rule based on his or her stance on hook up culture.
pguerrero329 Exactly
even if he wanna do a hookup culture, he can because the law didn't say you can't
Yeah thats messed up
The judge’s reputation should definitely be called into question here so other judges can see this example and not put their personal bias into sentencing.
Greg Carlson I would agree, but isn't it their job to 'judge'? Not that I believe that his sentence was reasonable, it was ludicrous, but just asking.
I have a friend on the registry for the EXACT same reason. The girl (she was 15, said she was 18, and he was 20) admitted to lying, and her mom begged the court to drop it when she realized what her daughter did. No dice. He's now 35 and he's still on the registry.
WouldYouJust _ thats disgusting screw that girl
That's fucked up (no pun intended)
Seriously fucked. And he's one of the sweetest dudes ever. Married now, great husband and father.. thankfully he's a computer genius so he builds websites and crazy shit for people from home. I can't imagine what his options for work would be if he didn't have some skills built in before all of that went down. The system is wrecked in this respect, for sure.
WouldYouJust _ I wish I had power so I could pardon people like these
Dragon Lord Skater XX XY XYX Multi Chromosomgutut The girl faked her age and had sex with someone older than her knowing he was older and she knew she was lying about her age, yet the guy didn't know of her actual true age because she lied to him. The girl is at fault not the guy who apparently was "thirsty for pussy". Please read the entire comment before saying something like that.
And that girl that lied about her age gets off Scott free. She should be on the sex offenders list because she lied to have sex. And she needs to be sitting in prison today. The stupid judges, in both trials need to be disbarred and debeanched for not having common sense. I hope that senator that drafted the law never gets reelected.
Can't own a smartphone?! These judges don't understand the needs of being a productive member of modern society.
kenektik ever heard of a flip phone?
But no internet. Can't even go to college because he has no access to the internet.
Kenektik i thought a bug was on my display, holy shit
PKAdazGalaxiaz was gonna say lol what but thru said no internet use wtf. For actual sex offenders fine whatever but Damn I feel for the dude.
kenektik lol ya
The judge: "Meet, hookup, have sex, sayonara. Totally inappropriate behavior"
Hold on, was the girl he was with not also participating in this "inappropriate behavior"?
TheBestLettuce it’s the double standard society we live in
perhaps, but since the girl was underage, and the guy 19, that changes the whole dynamic - at least legally.
All female are innocent victims 😏😒
NewDrew2 simp
NewDrew2 that’s not going to work to help you get girls.
His parents are angels, lucky to have such a good support system around him
Angels are not humans
@@r.m.k.1974 let me guess you hate humans?
If they were they would have told him to not have sex before marriage because it causes to much problems.
@@TexterEX opinions
@@aafhans8326 Its a fact
I’m so glad I don’t date 💀 it’s way to dangerous these days! People are crazy!! Like why are you even on a dating app at 14?? 😦
Not like you have a choice.
The girl should be the one without internet
BlueBae YESS
Ph0uad well not really she told him that she was around the same age so if she just said her real age then none of this would of happened
Ph0uad agreed. This 14 year old was consious enough to say “aight lisen ima sex this guy”
@Ph0uad he is not at fault in any way, she lied about her age. Shes in the wrong.
@Ph0uad Tbh shouldn't he of suspected her being under age, by just seeing her in person or even by hearing her voice . There was probably so many signs she was lying about her age
To those saying “Couldnt he tell that she was 14?” I’m 14. When I meet adults for the first time, they ask me if I’m going to college soon. A lot of people initially think I’m 18-ish. My older cousin who actually is 18 often gets confused as my younger cousin.
I’m 26 and still regularly get people thinking I’m an older teen. People just look different ages sometimes.
Yeah the whole age range from like 15 to 25 blurs together a lot.
Really hard to guess ages.
All this GMO food and body products... Now junior high kids look like 40 year-olds with mortgages.
IKR when I was a 13 and 14 year old boy everybody were literally asking me the same exact questions. They even said I sounded like I was 18 or older. Those people saying that quote honestly just have a simple dumb mindset like that Judge. They're literally saying it like if it's some type of common sense like seriously? They wouldn't have even been able to tell the difference either so why even ask that question? Also... they haven't even seen the girl so why even ask in the first place!?
I once met someone who was over 21 and they looked 12.
Wait she wrote him a letter on One Direction notebook paper. LMAOOOO THIS CHILD. This is so disturbing.
How do you know? Just wondering
@@angus6678 because it's shown??
Angus Bergström, the letter is shown in the video and you can see their logo on it (1D)
@@r0ckz you don't have to repeat me lmao what
@jintie, I didn't repeat you, your explanation wasn't complete enough and I even find it a bit rude. They might not know One Direction so it might be good to mention it's their logo. It's not common knowledge.
I feel like you were reacting because you want to get likes and now you're afraid that I might steal your shine? Guess what - I don't care about that. I was just trying to give a little more information. So if it's important to you, @all: please like jinties comment instead of mine.
The judge was abusing his powers, plain as day
Wait so he was convicted because the judge doesn’t like hookups
Nails to your chalkboard yeah.. pathetic
Fuck the judge. How about that judge be dragged to hell.
Also fuck Republican Senator Rick Jones that wrote this zero tolerance law and for his comments on this specific case.
Waxoff Waxon because he wasn’t winning you would have even if you were innocent
The Judge should be disbarred.
This is particularly insane given how many actual predators are not even charged, but this guy has sex with someone he thought was legal and ends up getting this insane punishment.
She didn't tell him she was legal. She told him she was 17. He was 19. That would have still been illegal. He still should've been charged and registered as a sex offender. He should have served his 25 years on the registry. He could have done something to her that would have destroyed her innocence.
@@saraflint2982 Age of consent laws vary by state. A 17 year old is legally able to consent in both states involved.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_the_United_States
@@saraflint2982 First of all, 17 is legal in his state. Second of all, if he just so happened to live in a state where legal consent was 18 and up, 25 years on the registry is STILL outrageous for a hookup between two individuals with a 2 year gap. TWO. Numero DOS. Make a fist and pull one finger... and now the other. Two. 25 years for that? The law still needs to change. He's not a danger to society. And puh-lease. A 17 year old teenager like her is nowhere innocent in an app like that. Stop treating 17 year olds like they're children. With your logic, her inNoCenCe wouldn't have been destroyed if she was just one year older, which makes no sense psychologically.
@@saraflint2982 lmao 17 is legal in most developed countries today and no he shouldn’t have served his 25 years because some entitled brat lied about her age and single handily ruined tried to ruin this mans life
@@Vixsufil The brat lied, yes. But she didn't try to destroy his life. Don't exaggerate lmao
This boy is 100% innocent. He was
deceived by that girl. I hope the judge clears his name.
tom jary innocent ? No he’s not you don’t have sex on the first date even if she lied it still didn’t matter
Penguinnn 4life he’s name got cleared
Penguinnn 4life lmao, so? that’s called a one night stand-
Penguinnn 4life if it’s consensual why does it matter if people have sex 3 minutes after they first meet?
@@penguinnn4life344 lmao dumb ass she agreed to it with him not knowing her real age
I think the judge was jealous that a 19 year old kid got laid and he didn't! Ridiculous!
@@Cassxowary it is legal for a 17 and 19 year olds to have sex.
@@manche110 and the judge got jealous-
I hope they put them away for a long time
@@Bruthric you sound like a chester
@@manche110 yes
This is why the registry needs an overhaul, or better yet, needs to be gotten rid of.
And we need laws punishing people who lie about their age in sexual encounters.
So the judge just casually ruined his life because he/she doesn't like when teens hookup and then not talk ever again. Sounds like someone got stood up one too many times.
You very clearly didn't watch the video. Please don't voice your opinion.
he was lied to and she admitted to lying to him about her age lol
next time try actually WATCHING THE VIDEO
No, you had a purpose when you said what you said. Stick to your shitty call of duty videos and stop giving your opinion.
get out of here purple jumbo
PurpleJumbo YT You must have a learning disability.
The sad thing is, while the girl did lie and clearly should've been up front about her age as a disqualifier, both she and her mother advocated for Zach to walk. Instead, the judge made him a posterboy for "hookup culture". What!? That judges can interpret something like this and issue a ruling that has no basis in law is absolutely sickening. Thank God the kid's getting cleared, but the judge responsible has zero business being on the bench after this farce.
That judge was taking some power trip or just straight up wanted to be an asshole.
@@the-unknown-1 The judge was pissy hook up culture didnt exist when he was a teen
That's what I don't get. How is the judge able to press charges if the parents don't????
You hear about all these stories of football players knocking up teens and parents won't press charges so their daughter can get that child support money. That judge is on a power trip. Probably gets beat up by his wife when he goes home so he takes it out on poor teenagers who can't defend themselves
@@xostler in Australia the parents have nothing to do with it, whether they approve or disapprove. In some instances if the parents allow the sexual relationship to happen then they can be charged for sexual exploitation of a minor. Parental Permissions are a thing of the past
Rustedblade yes well this didn't take place in Australia, it took place in Indiana/Michigan, USA....
I'd sure hope parental permission isn't a thing of the past, because the parents are in fact responsible for their children.
The is an issue of the State acting as if they were the offended party. When in fact, it had nothing to do with them.
Imagine being catfished, arrested and having your whole life ruined like this.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he faced trust issues growing up
this happened to me, but she wore a wig and 2 hours of make-up to look older. had high school stories and told me she planned for me to meet her mom
we met on an adult only website because she gained unauthorized access to an interstate computer causing it to output fraudulent age(federal crime) to lure an adult to rape.
Lied to detective about us meeting on an app called hangouts, which is impossible to meet on hangouts. obstructions to hide the other 204 victims
testified to this under oath, I got no bail like a murderer. eventually released on an ankle monitor which i have paid over $6000 fees so far waiting for them to indict me for being raped.
in Alabama, California, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Oklahoma, and Tennessee, it is illegal to lie or deceive and then obtain sex, adult impersonation is actually called *ra/pe, a 2nd degree felony
but minor females can't consent to commit rap/e, even though minor males have been convicted, statutory rape laws allow females to commit rape against males
imagine a perpetrator of rap/e, testifying against their victim, to lock up them up for being rap/ed
law*
Rape by fraud is defined as such in Tennessee:
39-11-106a Title definitions.
(13) Fraud means as used in normal parlance and includes, but is not limited to, deceit, trickery, misrepresentation and subterfuge, and shall be broadly construed to accomplish the purposes of this title
law.rutgers.edu/sites/law/files/Lies%20Rape%20and%20Statutory%20Rape__final%20edits__9781107108783c04_p194-253.pdf
www.repository.law.indiana.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3010&context=ilj
www.yalelawjournal.org/pdf/1153_3mf2xrp3.pdf
gould.usc.edu/centers/clhc/events/feature/documents/Rubenfeld.pdf
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nysbar.com/blogs/lawstudentconnection/2013/11/rape_by_fraud_deception_or_imp.html
Dude he got him self Into this he's 19 trying to have sex with a 17 year old that's still a crime but she turned out to be 14 just makes it even worse how could you not tell between a 17 year old body and 14 year old body your an idiot for thinking this is right it's sick In the U.S you can't have sex until your 18 legely
@@souljaspazzin
federal and most states legal age is 16
in states with romeo&juliet laws, the age of consent is 12-14 but they can't consent to someone more than 4 years older.
who's the idiot now
@@ihatecrackhead idk what state your talking about but the U.S legal age to have consent is 18 is the lowest there isn't 12-14 in the U.S the lowest of age in the world to have consent is in th Philippines this ain't the Philippines it's the U.S idiot
Why isn’t the girl being held for a crime? She was part of the “inappropriate behavior,” as the judge put it. I didn’t know inappropriate behavior was a crime punishable by imprisonment plus. His sentence is ridiculous.
Boomer judge was mad that his wife took the kids and can't find anyone to bone
"Boomer Judge" 💀
🤣🤣🤣🤣
i bet he's not even married or had any
You mean Karen took the kids.
Typical stupid snowflake comment.
His parents are the real MVPS.
So I’d the mother of the girl saying he didn’t deserve the punishment
@@TheHansolo426, Agreed.
Sounds like the judge interjected his own personal feelings which should not have not happened. Judge should have been unbiased.
fwacfred i read the opinion and he certainly did in my opinion. It definitely constitutes a appeal and possible grounds for dismissal of the judge
Shadow King no not anyone but certain jobs as judges yes. Well kind of. Theres two types of judges really; you have judical activist and judges with restrait. Both legal. However what isnt is when a judge brings a bias to the court before the trial is over which is grounds for mistrial. In some cases even disbarment.
You know the word JUDGE exists for a reason. HE HAS TO judge
You know, the judge is a woman. Does it make more sense to you now?
@@Kentrantran Incorrect. You're thinking of Angela Pasula, but she's not the one who passed Zach's initial sentence. The judge quoted in the video was Dennis Wiley, known in Michigan for passing excessively harsh sentences that make him sound like a religious lunatic.
This is so sad. You can tell this has broken a part of him. These sex offender registry laws are far too broad. They need to be chiseled and refined. I hate this for him.
What a justice system we have.. When plenty of REAL sex offenders are going unpunished every day.😡
Why isn't this 14 year-old girl in jail? She should be.
Sorry about this but you sound like a new age femminst a real sex offender can only get punished if theres there is evidence that proves they did so also before you say a witnisse is not proof that anicdotal evidence
@Grumpy Man also thats super illegal cause she didnt press charges its like if you punch someone the police ask that person do you want to press charges
Kim keKim keeping my opinions of this matter to myself, but that's not how it works when it comes to 'rape' or rather consensual sex with a minor(knowing or not)
@@thsu8 she should be, people will say "well shes innocent boohoo she didnt understand she did she fucked his life up.
The judge ruined his life just because he doesn't like his lifestyle, he let his feelings interrupt his duties as a judge and he should be released from his position immediately.
@Emma Madison doesnt matter now does it, he needs to be disbarred,
@Philip Eason so being a sex offender until you’re 40 and not being able to have any electronics and 2.5 months of jail isn’t anything??? you idiot
@Philip Eason and he can’t live with his parents
@Philip Eason You really are a smooth brain, aren't you?
I thought that too when he made that comment smh
The judge literally based his sentence on sex shaming hookup culture. Just because you’re so stale and fragile doesn’t mean no one else should be on dating apps either.
My thoughts exactly
“Sex shaming” stfu
the judge is probably an old guy whos wife left him and he doesn't get enough action
Exactly. It's like he said oh promiscuous guy, sex offenders, same difference. 😳
Old man problems. Probably sits like a rotten piece of wood on his chair at home after ruining multiple lives.
Do you know how many young men are in prison right now for the same scenario? Their lives are being ruined and these girls go free to act how they want to act. The law leaves no room for common sense or situational reasoning. They will get out of prison and be marked as a sexual offender for the rest of their lives. They will be harassed, unable to work, and harass some more. This is ridiculous.
You can see the kid is completely traumatized. Even though he is off the list now, his life is forever ruined by judgemental people. Such a sad case this one...
Is he really off the list? What happened?
@@meadow_uk he still isnt allowed to be on the internet after school, for some damn reason
@@ALUCARD-us3il I feel bad for him bro he just wanted a good time
@@perseus5656 wait he’s all free now? Good
@Philip Eason I'd rather be a squeaky clean loser than someone who's seen as a rapist.
She’s 14 and doesn’t know how to spell “dying” lmao
Dieing 🥴
snoopy dubnation everyone basically uses dating apps...some 14 yr olds now a days look like they’re 26 plus SHE LIED. Fucking idiots
snoopy dubnation shut yo clown ass up
snoopy dubnation I honestly have to agree. It’s wrong that he got charged but come on, he really can’t tell?
@@thawg5500 My classmates look like adults and I'm in 8th grade
That senator is trash.
"He shoulda asked for uh driver's license n stuff".
Victim blaming bs.
Matthew Brown yea a 14 year old is going to have a drivers license...
to be honest, he shouldve have
of course he should be punished for like a month at most, but 25 sex offender and 5 year probation wtf thats a cruel and unusual punishment
Squiddy Seut He also couldn’t use a Computer like wow!
Thats not what victim blaming is though
Eman556 What is a computer going to do? If she lied about her age in person, I'd be willing to bet she lied about her age on Facebook or whatever too.
I never thought I would defend someone convicted of being a sex offender, but the judge needs to be looked into. This sounds personal and I do not feel he’s a criminal. Even the victim and her family finds this to be corrupt.
The judge sending him to jail for "hooking up" is ridiculous. Not only does that have nothing to do with the case, but it's not illegal. He got sent to jail because the judge personally disagreed with Zach's decision and to combat what the judge feels is something dangerous that had been engrained in the culture. That judge should be prosecuted for a false sentence, especially after the "victim" and her mother admitted that the "victim" lied about her age.
No he got sent to jail for fucking a minor
Karma will come for that judge one day.
I agree with you plus she has said she was 17 and giving him his consent. This is bad parenthood from both sides and the judge has been complaining because she was a woman I've seen it in her eyes how this is equality if he was she, the things would be different.
@@CthRage8946 if a child lies about their age, that doesn’t mean you’re not guilty. It’s your responsibility as an adult to make sure your partners are of age and not just take their word for it.
@@Alex_W99 Yes but the law is clear about the age of consent, their partners are not guilty of mindless teenagers engaging in dangerous endeavours her mother should've been cautious about her daughter internet life, if she had spoted dangerous activity she should have putted limitations on the data trafficking on the daughter side.
Dont say "he shouldn't have known"
I'm 14 and as of 2 years ago, I'm constantly told I look 18. Looks can be deceiving.
Good point. (I think you mean 'don't say "he should have known" ')
yah one of my friend, when she was 14 y people thought she was 20 or even 24 and she does look way older then she is (Sorry for my English, it isn´t my firs language)
Prolly cos you fat ash
Cesar G Zuniga
No dumbass, it’s probably because he has developed facial features.
@_jeff _ yah it still blows my mind.
Shouldn’t the girl get in trouble? She’s the one that lied.
Start teaching your kids to be honest about their age. Wth
Princess May no children shouldn't be in trouble for lying, but neither should he
idontreallywantachan with their parents, not with the law. The fact you're advocating for children to be incarcerated is really fucked up
Ava X he never said for them to be in incarnated, he’s probably just thinking they should get in trouble and have to do something like community service.
Ava X your a flaming idiot
Opeion Gaming it's you're* so clearly you're the idiot here
Putting this kid on the same list as violent/serial predators demonstrates how useless the registry actually is.
Closet Pedophiles are often non-violent, and they look exactly just like him, tbh!
Yes, people in this hookup culture are softer when it comes to kid on kid, but under the law he is NO LONGER a kid, but a fully grown ADULT! That's where the hookup cultures fk up!
Agreed. Just by looking at him, it's obvious that he'd never hurt a fly. He's just some kid who got catfished.
It is illegal for a minor to use a fake ID to acquire alcohol or tobacco, *so why is it NOT illegal for a minor to use fake id to trick someone into consenting to sex???*