You should get a jb4 tune it’s a different monster you will be surprised I have the same mods but with a jb4 tune and intercooler that’s on the way from PRL
@@tylerdbrown20 it pops and sounds and I have a PRL air filter for now untill they release a cold air intake and even with PRL box the turbo sounds is loud and with the catless down pipes it pops and sounds soo good and I have a JB4 tune it’s really fast it will gap a mustang, camaro and scat packs from digs and probably will beat it on roll race idk haven’t raced it yet but Ik it will smoke Those 450-500hp NA V8s sports car from the dig
How many miles you have on already? All these test are with brand new cars and some others with few thousands of miles. A nice break in will improve performance
I've launched my stinger on a back country road right by a farm covered in dirt to the point that even with AWD I couldn't full send without spinning...still would've bussed an accord even if they ran on a prepped track 😂
I knew the stinger was going to win this race. This race has also been done on throttlehouse UA-cam channel months ago. The GT2 is fast! I love my Stinger!
@@buildmorefarms1007 For what it is the weight is fine considering an elantra sport is 3100 lbs and the Stinger is a bigger car with a twin turbo V6 and AWD 4100 lbs is very responsible
That doesn't mean anything Kia Hyundai Genesis have all stepped up their game and are taking out the competition they are no longer disposable cars like they were back in the 90s early 2000s
Sick race, one of the best. Accord did very well! Stinger was expected to win. TypeS sounds the best and looks the best out of the bunch. I’d put that TypeS on a diet. It has so much potential! Great race.
@@JayRM714 nobody’s talking about mark up. I’m looking at a 23 sheet now. 58,280 for AWD sport prestige. Starting at 47 k and then for 4300 each for sport advanced and prestige packages.
Respect to Kia, Acura and Honda. I drive 2020 Stinger GT and also Honda Accord 2.0. Stinger drives more like Porsche and Accord drives more like Cadillac. They're both great cars in their own ways.
@@theeternalnightmare2630 Agreed, the Sport and Touring trims are the only ones that get the 2.0t. And they have great suspension systems for a Honda. I have a older Accord Sport and it handles pretty good. Not like your going to whip it in the corner and slide on out. But it stays planted for the most part.
Accord driver here. Had a blast ripping the Accord down the strip. I knew I wasn’t going to win but still wanted to see how well the good ol’ tuned dad family grocery getter sedan would do against these 2 performance sedans. Not too shabby in my opinion.
That far left lane sure did seem awfully rough for a FWD vehicle to try and put down power. Not sure it would have made a huge difference but putting you in a better lane and putting the AWD vehicles in the worse lane may have changed it a bit. Just my thoughts though
@@nickslyfe9452 I owned a 2019 accord myself and from experience, the paddle shifter in those cars don't help much. From a roll to start in a gear they help but past that, throw it back into auto and let that 10speed do its thing...
From an accord owner with the same tune in manual the accord is NOT a drag race kind of car. It really shines on roll races and surprises a lot of people. Great content as always!
@@roboticvenom1935 plus I’m not sure if you saw but the Type S has a catless down pipe and that’s a huge difference from stock downpipe for any car. Low end the accord pulls away from them but top end power, 4cyl against v6 ofc the v6 will win.
@@Eekxx car and driver got a difference of weight 40LBS, weighed at the scale.. and the TLX has lightweight wheels which reduce weight at the MOST important part of the car, rotational mass aka the wheels which has extra effect, TLX also had a literal straight pipe which adds power, it's sad it's getting beat by the older stinger
I just purchased a 2018 Acura TLX 3.5 L V6 three weeks ago and I love it! I cannot say it enough, I love it. 25,460 miles at 4 yrs old (it was a lease car prior), absolutely immaculate interior, navigation, rear cameras, Android auto, heated seats, moon/sun roof, push button shifting, leather steering wheel and interior! It is gorgeous....and FAST. I drive it in Sport mode down I-10 @ 80 mph going to work in Tucson and its fun, a pure joy to drive. Rather have this than a BMW any day of the year.
You're like my number one channel that makes Stinger content on a regular lol. Love these races, Kia really got it with this car. Most likely going to be my next car
Stinger!!! I'm so proud as a Korean. But I have an accord 2.0t. I think Korea's Hyundai Kia's electric car is leading the world after Tesla, and the design is now a level better than Japanese cars.
@@drivescene6747 it would be a noticeable difference. Full turboback exhaust gains 30-40whp easy as with any 6cyl turbo. Why do you think magically the type s was able to keep up as opposed to every other race on UA-cam?lol
It was crazy how the Type S kept up with the Stinger. In most races, the stinger wrecks it lol. It was also shocking that the TLX beat the accord in the roll too. Great race btw
It’s actually not crazy. Acura is so far behind. It’s pathetic to me that one of Acuras top cars gets gapped by a stock Kia, while the Acura has mods 😂 Honda is sleeping in the performance department.
@@ryanturnerboles I agree is crazy to see this! But in this case KIA built the better car. I been pondering on this for a while now and I’m convinced Honda/Acura are not interested in performance at the moment. If they truly wanna compete they gonna have to build a whole new RWD chassis just like KIA did.
Awesome races! Wish the Stinger had an exhaust. I think you've just out done yourself Sam with 3 cars dragging at once! Love this and hope to see more 3 car drags in the future. Super job well done!
You need to find an accord 2.0 with the type r turbo upgrade or similar turbo and see how that fairs against some of these cars. I've done that with mine and it is a completely different car.
@@derrioncalloway1940 it's actually not hard to do. There's a few videos on UA-cam that show you how to do it. It can take a few hours in your driveway, it's actually fairly easy. Even if you have a friend who's mechanically inclined. Look up According to Joel he has a few videos on it
nice man! I wish they;d update the stinger, but looks like it's getting killed, if the stinger had a FRESH interior to make it line with other kia/hyundai products that all have superior interiors by now that'd be lovely, and new styling as well. It's a performance BEAST though
@@roboticvenom1935 I sold my 2018 WRX STI for this bad boy and if you compare the two in terms of interior, the Stinger is far more superior in every aspect, so it’s a win- win for me in any case! 😬
That was some of the finest rolls races I've seen the channel Sam, that tuned Accord was amazing on the roll! Justins TLX continues to be a showstopper.
@@burnt_type_s Your car is tooooo loud now lol #oldman :D Seriously tho, sorry I missed you that day, passed you on the way out, next time stick around a minute ;)
@@TasimanaOG WTH since when does changing your muffler bring 13hp? Sam explained in the beginning of the videos about each car and any mods. I want that muffler. 😂
Thank you for finally getting a tuned Accord in here lol. It's nice to see one after putting all those tuned cars up against it. Now we gotta get rematches with all the cars that beat it while tuned and see what happens with everything equal😁
No shot, Acura all day. The build quality on Japanese cars is bar none compared to South Korean. That Honda and Acura will outlive that KIA, and look better doing it.
Before COVID, I got my CPO, 13K mile 2018 Stinger GT AWD for $29500. The Acura is pushing 60k new and 50k used. Now the market is messed up, but still, Genesis/Stinger is the way to go. For Acura money, you're better off getting an M340.
type s was straight piped, that's why buddy.. performance is lame though, it had lightweight wheels and straight pipe from the turbo BACK and still got CLAPPED by the older cheaper stinger
The accord was stimulating real Canadian roads: so shit you can't drive fast if you wanted to 😂 Would love to see the Accord take on the Type S on a more fair track! Love seeing videos of the Accord Sam 🫰🏼
I own a stinger and it’s a great car. A lot of people don’t give it the credit it deserves. I was actually going to buy the Type S however the first Acura dealer I went to wanted to change $10,000 over asking and the second dealer wouldn’t let me test drive it, went to Kia and couldn’t be happier.
yea those roll races were pretty entertaining, stinger obviously was expected to win everything but the accord definitely did good for it being 60 horsepower short and on fwd.
@@claytonjacobs8812 weight goes very far, why companies spend millions on shedding the smallest amount of weight, especially roll races he should have advantage, I get that some weight on launch helps with higher horsepower
@@bubbles1525_ and in this case it definitely made a difference...having more weight with more horsepower helped the stinger, you just helped prove my point that the stinger was expected to win. But the ones that spend millions are sport car brands mainly, which arent exactly among our lot in this instance. This race was the equivalent of putting a economy car against
Gotta admire Honda/Acura stans considering the *brand new* TLX Type S got sonned by a refreshed *Kia*. That's a heavy L for a car Acura spent years hyping up. All show, no go. Not to mention the back seat is tight without you getting the benefit of a RWD-biased platform.
Prediction: Accord is tuned, so it will win. Outcome: Nope. Stinger won. That Accord kept up, though, considering that it is a class below the other 2.
If the accord was full bolt on it might be a different outcome for the TLX. I think it would be pass the tlx by s good bit considering how it did on the 30 roll
@Eric Grayson yes I know. I personally have a 2.0 FBO with the CTR swap. I was wondering if this accord had anything done besides the tune and whatever else.
Is the accord stages 1 or 2 ? I would this. To be fair the accord need stage 3 just to really compete . But i want to see Mazda 6 gt 2.5t vs accord s Altima sr or 3.5
@@archiarch10 the type s was literally straight piped(owner said so in pinned comments), so no it does not win on exhaust at all. it performed lame.. every reviewer is disappointed with performance in straight line
the type s was literally straight piped(owner said so in pinned comments), so no it does not win on exhaust at all. it performed lame.. every reviewer is disappointed with performance in straight line
@@roboticvenom1935 chill dude I’m just saying I thought the exhaust sounded dope, but even stock the Type S has a better sounding exhaust than a stock Stinger
@@treyvon4444 The Stinger has 10 more HP than the Type S as well. 10 HP can make a car length difference with a win..I still have to get the Stinger credit for it's speed .
@@megascopsenjoyer and acura is also charging 52+K LMFAO, that's m340i money.. which gets you a B58 and a proper machine, screaming inline 6, also the genesis g70 exists
You're trippin balls if you think the accord is slow. This accord needed a driver mod. I've seen these things keep up with GTRs (obviously not a stock accord) but you get my point. Had this accord been stage 4 (flex fuel with an ECU tune) I guarantee it would have left both these cars in the dust and lets keep in mind these cars are 10k+ more than the accord a stage 4 tune will run you about 1k at most saving you a shit ton of money to burn tf out these cars
Great race! Acuras power comes in to play more on high end RPM versus low end. If the Acura TLX Type S was tuned..it would have won for sure..If the TLX Type S had even amount of HP it would be faster..
The Acura 3.0t is known for dying uptop lol. It launches well then dies. This TLX has a full turboback exhaust which helps it a lot. Gains of 30-40whp easy. Also has lightweight wheels.
I own a JB4 tuned type S and I ordered a PRL Intercooler kit with a charge pipe and I can’t wait to dyno it with the JB4 tune itself it was able to push 376whp and 420wtrq from a computer tune not dyno tune once I install the intercooler I will dyno it
@@Tsand4 True! The jump on the Accord 2.0T is fast! I still was able out run one of the top end in my non bolt on TL on my channel ( I just have 23lb racing wheels, Drop in K&N air filter, and Custom cut Exhaust Quad tips for better exhaust flow)!
@@VERY_RAREQ50RS the intercooler isn’t really going to get you power. What it will do though is make the motor way less prone to heat soak. So you can do back to back to back pulls and it won’t pull timing etc. They are a very good investment.
Sadly, it's hauling around too much weight and that handicap is it's real issue. If it was 600 lbs lighter, it would embarrass the Stinger. The extra weight is going to decrease the value of every performance mod. Additionally, the car needed about 40 or 50 more HP from the factory to be up-to-date with the competition. Mercedes makes more HP out of a 4 cylinder.
@@larrystookey2545 yeah it's lame and price SUCKS, they're charging near m340i money which gets you the legendary B58(ultimate tuner motor, 500WHP with e85 and two bolt ons) and it's way faster..
I'm surprised that it only took an exhaust for the TLX to virtually match the Stinger. I wonder if that suggests that the Type S' exhaust is unusually restrictive. This is might be old-fashioned Honda conservatism at work where tuning and emissions are concerned.
Put a it’s not just a “exhuast” it’s full catless downpipes straight through. Put a turboback exhaust on stinger and the gap will go back to schoolbus. Every car in the segment has a restrictive exhuast.
Right on, its like the stock jdm ep3 n dc5, the stock exhaust's see a difference in 10-15hp. As with ALL models, stock exhausts choke the engine in essence, crucial 1st mods should always be induction n full exhaust systems, mahoosive difference
@@mattsmith7379 Its really sad that a brand with supposedly 50 years or racing experience makes such a loser sports sedan that a get beaten in every drag race and is compared to its $20k cheaper sibling lol I hurts I understand
This was some good racing! That poor Accord driver had his mouth open in shock every single race feel so bad for the guy 😅😂. But this just gives me further confirmation on how underrated that Kia Stinger 3.3tt platform is! Excellent aftermarket performance support and community! Full bolt ons and a lap3 Stage 2 ECU tune and your over 500hp and 600ft-lbs...450 to the rear wheels! Definitely my next car!
The Type S makes the Stinger look like a supercar. Also will say i’m slightly disappointed in the Accord, with a tune doing 360lbs torque only being 3100lbs….🤔tsk tsk. Honda/Acura are just not the performance girls they used to be.
@Justin S. but this one is tuned. the stock accord sport is actually faster than the non type s TLX too. basically Honda doesn't make cars for performance even if you mod them you still can't get much out if it.
Hey Sam please put out all the lame fan boy accord excuses. We need a Accord 2.0 vs Acura TLX Type S rematch. That way accord can have a nice comfortable lane. That should settle things, unless it rains or the lanes need to be repaved or some other stupid excuse. Stinger proved itself rocks, road cracks and all...
The TLX has a full turboback exhaust (catless downpipes with straighpipes after that) should get atleast 30-40whp. That’s why it kept up better with stinger. Idk what’s going on with Accord I thought it would do better ona roll. Also the gt2 awd stinger weighs basically the same as Type s about 4150. Only the base 3.3tt AWD GT weigh just over 4000lbs. They don’t make that trim anymore though.
The Accord's "avertised horsepower" was a joke and was smoked . The Acura was better but beat like a rug . All hail the new king Stinger !!! Good race Sam !!!
I can tell you that the advertised power is no joke. Keep in mind it's 300 WHP to a FWD car. I have a 2.0T myself and when it was stock it would fight for traction from a dig, by tuning it you're only making it worse You'd need to do way more than just higher your HP/torque numbers to be able to put that power down on the road
Phearable stage 3 on the dyno when I ran it was only like 267whp. I keep seeing different numbers. Add flex fuel to the accord and both the tlx and stinger get walked. Add a tune to the tlx or stinger and the accord gets left behind.
@@jeffbaker2267 comparing Dyno numbers makes it hard to prove anything since they read differently. Mustang dynos read lower than a Dyno jet so it's very possible a 500hp car on a Dyno jet gets smoked by a 450hp car on a mustang dyno. Real world results are always the best comparison. I always thought the Dyno numbers for the tuned Accords were a bit exaggerated and after seeing this video woth the other cars (with drivetrain loss of about 21% applied) the Accord should've won especially being lighter.
Good run, its safe to say up to this point that the Type S wont catch anything within it class in straight line performance even with bolt on. Good run tho Sam, please keep up the good works along with contents.
@@andrewmoreno7193 its safe to say that you still living in denial along with Acura performance design team. FYI this isn't the year 2007 where 355 HP is impressive from factory, but the 4200 lbs does.
That Acura sounds incredible. The stinger is fast but man the Acura looks great and sounds epic. I wish they gave her more power and let it launch harder. That accord should have dusted them both for a roll I have no idea why it didn’t win with it being lighter and with that power
The fact a 4 cylinder 2.0 was so close to beating a v6, TWIN TURBO is kind of embarrassing. If its got so much power then why was it not much further ahead?
One friend has a Stinger 2.0T and another Honda Accord 2.0T. Stinger beats it by a hair (again, depends on drivers). Not many tuned 2.0T Stingers I believe!
for the record, i am running a full straight piped exhaust with a catless downpipe. thats how i was able to keep up with the stinger
You should get a jb4 tune it’s a different monster you will be surprised I have the same mods but with a jb4 tune and intercooler that’s on the way from PRL
It sounds really good. Does it drone at all?
@@tylerdbrown20 it pops and sounds and I have a PRL air filter for now untill they release a cold air intake and even with PRL box the turbo sounds is loud and with the catless down pipes it pops and sounds soo good and I have a JB4 tune it’s really fast it will gap a mustang, camaro and scat packs from digs and probably will beat it on roll race idk haven’t raced it yet but Ik it will smoke
Those 450-500hp NA V8s sports car from the dig
How many miles you have on already? All these test are with brand new cars and some others with few thousands of miles. A nice break in will improve performance
@@lisandro12349 fully broken in at 18k km
Man, that Type S sounds so good. That poor Accord though. Definitely had the worst part of the track. Man was out there off-roading for his life lol
LOL. The Honda Wrangler.
@@senorgato70 😂🏇
Yup race wasn’t fair
A stock one would do ever worse.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
They gave Ronny the off-road track lol, I couldn't stop laughing at the sound of the rocks and gravel kicking up.
Yeah imagine if he had a flat surface!lol
I've launched my stinger on a back country road right by a farm covered in dirt to the point that even with AWD I couldn't full send without spinning...still would've bussed an accord even if they ran on a prepped track 😂
@@uabbweb bros hype over beating a fwd car LMAO
I knew the stinger was going to win this race. This race has also been done on throttlehouse UA-cam channel months ago. The GT2 is fast! I love my Stinger!
Yea my 2018 GT2 I've gotten to 3.7 0-60 and 11.9 with a stage 1 tune and exhaust and intake lol
I have a Genesis G80 Sport with the same engine. Love it.
@@curtislaketek2952 They are some good numbers
It's so heavy though is my only criticism. Otherwise it's amazing
@@buildmorefarms1007 For what it is the weight is fine considering an elantra sport is 3100 lbs and the Stinger is a bigger car with a twin turbo V6 and AWD 4100 lbs is very responsible
The Stinger with just a tune is a whole different Beast
THAT'S FOR SURE...
It's still a kia
That doesn't mean anything Kia Hyundai Genesis have all stepped up their game and are taking out the competition they are no longer disposable cars like they were back in the 90s early 2000s
@@nathanlopez5667 it feels cheap and plastic. The interior squeaks and rattles even when brand new. They're pos.
@@cuzimaluzer777 Not the new cars.
Sick race, one of the best. Accord did very well! Stinger was expected to win. TypeS sounds the best and looks the best out of the bunch. I’d put that TypeS on a diet. It has so much potential! Great race.
yeah the TLX is catless and straightpiped.
accord didn't do that well given its weight, type s only sounds better because it's straight piped mate.. and costs more then the stinger
@The Real Cat of 2020 nah TLX all day
Tlx 👌
Accord got walked. What are you looking at?
For the price, a stinger gt and Genesis g70 3.3t are hard to beat…
The g70 has raised prices by like 4-6 on each trim
@@bobbyclary9662 u mean mark up? there's no way they would raise msrp
@@bobbyclary9662 Yeah thats definitely due to markup. ive seen new 3.3ts as low as 42k and as high as 55k...
@@JayRM714 nobody’s talking about mark up. I’m looking at a 23 sheet now. 58,280 for AWD sport prestige. Starting at 47 k and then for 4300 each for sport advanced and prestige packages.
Those cars are both unattractive though. Plus, the Acura is an Acura, not some Kia or Hyundai😂
Respect to Kia, Acura and Honda. I drive 2020 Stinger GT and also Honda Accord 2.0. Stinger drives more like Porsche and Accord drives more like Cadillac. They're both great cars in their own ways.
Agree, this isn't what the Accord is intended to be.
Accord is a Family car that drives like a boat.
It was never meant to be a sports sedan
@@tom11zz884 a boat? You must’ve had the least expensive trim
@@tom11zz884 drives like a boat? yet weighs 1,000lbs less than the other cars? loll
@@theeternalnightmare2630 Agreed, the Sport and Touring trims are the only ones that get the 2.0t. And they have great suspension systems for a Honda. I have a older Accord Sport and it handles pretty good. Not like your going to whip it in the corner and slide on out. But it stays planted for the most part.
The Kia continues to impress me. 👏 thinking back 10-20 years ago I wouldn't imagine a Kia spanking Acura... Even a Type S model 😆. Bravo Kia 👏
I guess it’s fast but won’t last you as long as Acura/Honda.
@@brkn9328 -Stinger doesn't last as long as Acura. 🤔 Do you think so?.
@@henrikkoukku2896 kia is cheap.
@@4nlover635 not now
@@JaeBTundra1 kind of. Resale value is not anywhere as great as a Honda or Toyota.
Accord driver here.
Had a blast ripping the Accord down the strip. I knew I wasn’t going to win but still wanted to see how well the good ol’ tuned dad family grocery getter sedan would do against these 2 performance sedans. Not too shabby in my opinion.
That far left lane sure did seem awfully rough for a FWD vehicle to try and put down power. Not sure it would have made a huge difference but putting you in a better lane and putting the AWD vehicles in the worse lane may have changed it a bit. Just my thoughts though
Did you use the paddle shifters or left it in drive?
@@nickslyfe9452 I owned a 2019 accord myself and from experience, the paddle shifter in those cars don't help much. From a roll to start in a gear they help but past that, throw it back into auto and let that 10speed do its thing...
@@andyacer03 it definitely felt bumpy. This was a while ago now and all I can remember is constantly correcting the steering to keep straight
@@nickslyfe9452 no paddles. Sport mode in drive the whole time
From an accord owner with the same tune in manual the accord is NOT a drag race kind of car. It really shines on roll races and surprises a lot of people. Great content as always!
got clapped on the roll though even by the underwhelming tlx type s(also a honda product), stinger smoked it
@@roboticvenom1935 the extra weight 100 pounds for the 10 speed cost him the L I agree. Still overall a great car.
@@roboticvenom1935 plus I’m not sure if you saw but the Type S has a catless down pipe and that’s a huge difference from stock downpipe for any car. Low end the accord pulls away from them but top end power, 4cyl against v6 ofc the v6 will win.
@@Eekxx car and driver got a difference of weight 40LBS, weighed at the scale.. and the TLX has lightweight wheels which reduce weight at the MOST important part of the car, rotational mass aka the wheels which has extra effect, TLX also had a literal straight pipe which adds power, it's sad it's getting beat by the older stinger
@@roboticvenom1935 Stinger will be in the Junk yard in a few years while the accord lives for 20.
stinger never disappoints really the best purchase i ever made
I just purchased a 2018 Acura TLX 3.5 L V6 three weeks ago and I love it! I cannot say it enough, I love it. 25,460 miles at 4 yrs old (it was a lease car prior), absolutely immaculate interior, navigation, rear cameras, Android auto, heated seats, moon/sun roof, push button shifting, leather steering wheel and interior! It is gorgeous....and FAST. I drive it in Sport mode down I-10 @ 80 mph going to work in Tucson and its fun, a pure joy to drive. Rather have this than a BMW any day of the year.
Enjoy that V6 power Put the pedal to the metal and go.
who tf asked
You just explained every car on the road🤦🏾♂️💀
@@HD_Kerino uhm, actually no I didn't. But your deadpan reply is cute though.
V6 3.5 TLX’s are so slow… 5.7 sec 0-60😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You're like my number one channel that makes Stinger content on a regular lol. Love these races, Kia really got it with this car. Most likely going to be my next car
🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹
@@SamCarLegion $$$$$$
Stinger!!! I'm so proud as a Korean. But I have an accord 2.0t.
I think Korea's Hyundai Kia's electric car is leading the world after Tesla, and the design is now a level better than Japanese cars.
your country's cars are trash, that's why you bought japanese 😂
I think it would be nice to see this Type S vs another Type S, completely stock, with original exhaust, and wheels, to see how they compare
Doubt it would be much of a difference.
@@drivescene6747 it would be a noticeable difference. Full turboback exhaust gains 30-40whp easy as with any 6cyl turbo. Why do you think magically the type s was able to keep up as opposed to every other race on UA-cam?lol
I'll bet on the Acura Type S. pretty sure Type S will win!
@@drivescene6747
The driver of Type S actually admitted his car has straight piped exhaust and catless downpipe, so it's not stock by any means
@@drivescene6747 it has straight pipe exhaust, catless downpipe and lighter wheels which makes a worlds difference in stock cars
It was crazy how the Type S kept up with the Stinger. In most races, the stinger wrecks it lol. It was also shocking that the TLX beat the accord in the roll too. Great race btw
exhaust tune gives around 13hp. so theres that. + RWD stinger is lighter so gaps it on the roll
The TLX isn’t stock. It has full straightpipe exhuast I assume turboback and lightweight wheels.
It’s actually not crazy. Acura is so far behind. It’s pathetic to me that one of Acuras top cars gets gapped by a stock Kia, while the Acura has mods 😂 Honda is sleeping in the performance department.
@@ryanturnerboles I agree is crazy to see this! But in this case KIA built the better car. I been pondering on this for a while now and I’m convinced Honda/Acura are not interested in performance at the moment. If they truly wanna compete they gonna have to build a whole new RWD chassis just like KIA did.
How is it shocking. Acura wins races Kia doesn’t even apply lol
Awesome races! Wish the Stinger had an exhaust. I think you've just out done yourself Sam with 3 cars dragging at once! Love this and hope to see more 3 car drags in the future. Super job well done!
You need to find an accord 2.0 with the type r turbo upgrade or similar turbo and see how that fairs against some of these cars. I've done that with mine and it is a completely different car.
Agreed! I’m considering similar upgrades for my TLX 2.0T!
I was at the dealer it was a 2021 accord sport 2.0t he said it had the same engine as the type r is it the same thing you’re referring to?
@@derrioncalloway1940 no you can upgrade the turbo in the 2.0 to the type r turbo and turn it into a completely different beast
@@gordonharris5788 ion know much about cars but how would I do that? Like how do I attain that who would u prefer I go to for that etc?
@@derrioncalloway1940 it's actually not hard to do. There's a few videos on UA-cam that show you how to do it. It can take a few hours in your driveway, it's actually fairly easy. Even if you have a friend who's mechanically inclined. Look up According to Joel he has a few videos on it
I'm so happy I got myself a Stinger. Simply outstanding
Do you still own it 2 years later?
How many km
Any issues?
That Stinger is an absolute weapon. Then again I own one and am biased.
We all are
Never in my life have I gotten so many random ppl telling how beautiful the car look
Just Picked up a 2023 Stinger GT ( Ghost Grey) last weekend and I'm obsessed with it!
nice man! I wish they;d update the stinger, but looks like it's getting killed, if the stinger had a FRESH interior to make it line with other kia/hyundai products that all have superior interiors by now that'd be lovely, and new styling as well. It's a performance BEAST though
@@roboticvenom1935 I sold my 2018 WRX STI for this bad boy and if you compare the two in terms of interior, the Stinger is far more superior in every aspect, so it’s a win- win for me in any case! 😬
@The Real Cat of 2020 yes but it was minor, essentially same interior but slightly better/larger touchscreen display and a some other minor things
@@Tw0Staxx the interior of the WRX's were horrible yeah, worst in class
@The Real Cat of 2020 ah thanks for the breakdown, that sounds nice but man if they do drop a full refresh it'll be killer!
Stinger has been out for about 5 years. Still killing it 👍
This video is 100% accurate on all the dudes who think their Accord is fast.
Faster than that Camry I just beat 🤪
@Eric Grayson and get 35mpg highway to save on gas!
For a family econobox it’s plenty quick, I bet a 5.7 Charger would get walked by this accord
@Eric Grayson that’s wild you think that🤡
@Eric Grayson if you say so, crazy how angry people get over the Koreans, kinda says something💀🤡
Kia with a tune & full exhaust sheesh🔥🔥 kia did they dam thang with the stinger man hats off
That was some of the finest rolls races I've seen the channel Sam, that tuned Accord was amazing on the roll! Justins TLX continues to be a showstopper.
Thank Jim :)
gotta love jim
@@burnt_type_s you need the jb4, trust me
@@burnt_type_s Your car is tooooo loud now lol #oldman :D Seriously tho, sorry I missed you that day, passed you on the way out, next time stick around a minute ;)
@@jozhfy im good on jb4 ill wait for ktuner
TLX sounds so good, gear shifts are are even better. Quite impressived it was on neck and neck with Stinger 3.3 despite being heavier and less HP
exhaust tune gives around 13hp. so theres that. + RWD stinger is lighter so gaps it on the roll
@@TasimanaOG
Stinger is AWD, not RWD
@@TasimanaOG where did you get that random ass “exhaust tune” number from?
@@TasimanaOG WTH since when does changing your muffler bring 13hp? Sam explained in the beginning of the videos about each car and any mods. I want that muffler. 😂
@@TasimanaOG stop copying and pasting this absurd comment
It's not fair for the Accord to be riding on the edge of the track because of the rough pavement.
Did you expect them to run the more expensive cars there? The Accord knows its place. lol
Thank you for finally getting a tuned Accord in here lol. It's nice to see one after putting all those tuned cars up against it. Now we gotta get rematches with all the cars that beat it while tuned and see what happens with everything equal😁
My god that Acura v6 sounds amazing
Video makes no sense for any type of comparison, Accord is tuned, the TLX has a exhaust system and the Stinger is bone stock lol
Good races thou!
Thank-you for listening, love my stinger 2022 Ghost grey .... so proud to drive this car.
Sam, really nice race
Type S sounds Exotic 👀
Joining the 1mil subs run now!
Good job Kia. What a way to represent!
That Honda had no business being there 😂
The 3.3 Stinger GT is amazing 😍
Were the drivers not allowed to manually select gears for the roll? Seemed like the accord could’ve really benefited from it for the 60 roll
it'll get clapped regardless lmfao
Can't get over the sound of that Type S.
It does sound monstrous, wish my stinger sounded like it.
as always thanks for having me out sam! man i love the way my type s sounds 😂 shame i wasnt able to race the is500!
It’s all good my man - I have another IS500 available:) we shall book a day. And yes, it sounds 10x better than stock
It’s probably good you didn’t, it would’ve put the hurt on you lol
And here comes the Accord with a Big turbo and custom tune... Let's go!
No shot, Acura all day. The build quality on Japanese cars is bar none compared to South Korean. That Honda and Acura will outlive that KIA, and look better doing it.
@@bitsbrainsandbeanies2527 the stinger looks so much better 😂
Stinger owner here! But damn that Type S sounds awesome!!! What's done to it?
full custom straight pipe with catless dp
@@burnt_type_s damn that at least 50hp extra.
He has a turbo back exhaust the same setup as my Type S but I have a JB4 tune
@@burnt_type_s thank you! She's a music to ear now. Great job!
Do you have a car page on Instagram?
Before COVID, I got my CPO, 13K mile 2018 Stinger GT AWD for $29500. The Acura is pushing 60k new and 50k used. Now the market is messed up, but still, Genesis/Stinger is the way to go. For Acura money, you're better off getting an M340.
We need to see how the TLX type S compares to the IS500 and the G70.
its gonna get smoked, if the IS500 can get traction its faster than the G70, and the G70 is slightly faster than the stinger soo..
@@leonsam84 straight facts
I own a stinger forgot how quiet it was stock.
Accord did well!!!
Love that exhaust and front grill on the Acura 🔥🔥🔥
Type S sounds and looks absolutely beautiful
type s was straight piped, that's why buddy.. performance is lame though, it had lightweight wheels and straight pipe from the turbo BACK and still got CLAPPED by the older cheaper stinger
@@roboticvenom1935 I’m aware. However, no Stinger sounds remotely as good with the same mods.
@@roboticvenom1935 I would still take the Acura TLX Type S over the stinger any day all day.
@@msrr1303 no but they can sound damn good, I've heard one in person with a nice exhaust system(not straight pipe which is not practical)
@@roboticvenom1935 they’re not bad. I guess the shifts on the Type S really make it much more pleasing to me.
The Stinger is an absolute beast!
The accord was stimulating real Canadian roads: so shit you can't drive fast if you wanted to 😂
Would love to see the Accord take on the Type S on a more fair track! Love seeing videos of the Accord Sam 🫰🏼
I own a stinger and it’s a great car. A lot of people don’t give it the credit it deserves. I was actually going to buy the Type S however the first Acura dealer I went to wanted to change $10,000 over asking and the second dealer wouldn’t let me test drive it, went to Kia and couldn’t be happier.
yea those roll races were pretty entertaining, stinger obviously was expected to win everything but the accord definitely did good for it being 60 horsepower short and on fwd.
He was alot lighter though
@@bubbles1525_ This. ~650 pounds lighter than the Stinger, ~700 lighter than the TLX.
@@bubbles1525_ weight only goes so far...60 horsepower extra and being able to put it down smoother is a lot better than just weight reduction
@@claytonjacobs8812 weight goes very far, why companies spend millions on shedding the smallest amount of weight, especially roll races he should have advantage, I get that some weight on launch helps with higher horsepower
@@bubbles1525_ and in this case it definitely made a difference...having more weight with more horsepower helped the stinger, you just helped prove my point that the stinger was expected to win. But the ones that spend millions are sport car brands mainly, which arent exactly among our lot in this instance. This race was the equivalent of putting a economy car against
Gotta admire Honda/Acura stans considering the *brand new* TLX Type S got sonned by a refreshed *Kia*. That's a heavy L for a car Acura spent years hyping up. All show, no go. Not to mention the back seat is tight without you getting the benefit of a RWD-biased platform.
Prediction: Accord is tuned, so it will win.
Outcome: Nope. Stinger won. That Accord kept up, though, considering that it is a class below the other 2.
If the accord was full bolt on it might be a different outcome for the TLX. I think it would be pass the tlx by s good bit considering how it did on the 30 roll
@Eric Grayson yes I know. I personally have a 2.0 FBO with the CTR swap. I was wondering if this accord had anything done besides the tune and whatever else.
We need a tuned Type S on the channel!
this one has a STRAIGHT pipe and lightweight wheels, a tuned stinger would take the tlx's soul..
@@roboticvenom1935 I vote for a tuned Stinger vs a tuned TLX. I’ll go for the TLX
Is it just me, or is the Type-S getting stronger?
Excellent race all around!
It’s not getting stronger. Just got some bolt ons.lol
Read pinned comment
Lol stronger in weight lol
Is the accord stages 1 or 2 ? I would this. To be fair the accord need stage 3 just to really compete . But i want to see Mazda 6 gt 2.5t vs accord s Altima sr or 3.5
I think I'd pick the type s if I had a choice. Good race 👍
As a stinger owner I do agree it wins on its look and the exhaust 👀
@@archiarch10 the type s was literally straight piped(owner said so in pinned comments), so no it does not win on exhaust at all. it performed lame.. every reviewer is disappointed with performance in straight line
the type s was literally straight piped(owner said so in pinned comments), so no it does not win on exhaust at all. it performed lame.. every reviewer is disappointed with performance in straight line
@@roboticvenom1935 chill dude I’m just saying I thought the exhaust sounded dope, but even stock the Type S has a better sounding exhaust than a stock Stinger
@@archiarch10 agreed
Honda accord guy would be like what i'm even doing in this race 😂
Sam...The Infinity Q50 3.0 T would be a good match to see against the Accord 2.0T.
I knew the stinger was gonna win. Them stingers trash on the long run quality. Thats why they put a 10 year warranty on it. That type s sound so good.
@@treyvon4444 The Stinger has 10 more HP than the Type S as well. 10 HP can make a car length difference with a win..I still have to get the Stinger credit for it's speed .
Sam have you done stinger GT run with Alfa Romeo Giulia yet?
man the TLX sounds nastyyy
This race is exactly what I was wondering! Thank you 🙌
Amazing race.. I own a 2022 stinger GT and its awesome. I always thought it feels faster than 365/375...
it's underrated, but it's an incredible vehicle, good choice, tlx type s is underwhelming performance period
@The Real Cat of 2020 clever.
@The Real Cat of 2020 365 vs 368 is the same.. wut?
@@roboticvenom1935 type s is nicer then the stinger in everyway besides straight line performance
Hey Sam, on that accord, what was on the accord besides a tune?
Give me that TLX any day of the week with that exhaust setup. Holy 🤤
Stinger sounds just as good with an exhaust.. tlx type s is overpirced and has pathetic performance vs the older cheaper stinger
@@roboticvenom1935 it's also hideous
@@megascopsenjoyer and acura is also charging 52+K LMFAO, that's m340i money.. which gets you a B58 and a proper machine, screaming inline 6, also the genesis g70 exists
Man that Type S sound good asf 👌🏿😌
Why they even compare that slow azz grocery getter accord 😂
🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@primebenni4773 🤮🤮🤮🤮
@@i.d.6492 you 6 or 7?
@@primebenni4773 go outside and touch some grass
You're trippin balls if you think the accord is slow. This accord needed a driver mod. I've seen these things keep up with GTRs (obviously not a stock accord) but you get my point. Had this accord been stage 4 (flex fuel with an ECU tune) I guarantee it would have left both these cars in the dust and lets keep in mind these cars are 10k+ more than the accord a stage 4 tune will run you about 1k at most saving you a shit ton of money to burn tf out these cars
Accord got tuned just to lose against the car everyone calls slow (Type S)
Great race! Acuras power comes in to play more on high end RPM versus low end. If the Acura TLX Type S was tuned..it would have won for sure..If the TLX Type S had even amount of HP it would be faster..
The Acura 3.0t is known for dying uptop lol. It launches well then dies. This TLX has a full turboback exhaust which helps it a lot. Gains of 30-40whp easy. Also has lightweight wheels.
I own a JB4 tuned type S and I ordered a PRL Intercooler kit with a charge pipe and I can’t wait to dyno it with the JB4 tune itself it was able to push 376whp and 420wtrq from a computer tune not dyno tune once I install the intercooler I will dyno it
@@Tsand4 True! The jump on the Accord 2.0T is fast! I still was able out run one of the top end in my non bolt on TL on my channel ( I just have 23lb racing wheels, Drop in K&N air filter, and Custom cut Exhaust Quad tips for better exhaust flow)!
@@VERY_RAREQ50RS the intercooler isn’t really going to get you power. What it will do though is make the motor way less prone to heat soak. So you can do back to back to back pulls and it won’t pull timing etc. They are a very good investment.
No shit it would win. Put a jb4 on the stinger and it’ll still gap a jb4 type S lol
TL sounds so good with the new exhaust!
Once performance mods start being released for the Type S, that thing is gonna be absolutely demonic 🤤
it's pathetic, getting beat by the older, cheaper stinger, the stinger is demonic, not the overpriced tlx type s mate.
Sadly, it's hauling around too much weight and that handicap is it's real issue. If it was 600 lbs lighter, it would embarrass the Stinger. The extra weight is going to decrease the value of every performance mod. Additionally, the car needed about 40 or 50 more HP from the factory to be up-to-date with the competition. Mercedes makes more HP out of a 4 cylinder.
@@larrystookey2545 yeah it's lame and price SUCKS, they're charging near m340i money which gets you the legendary B58(ultimate tuner motor, 500WHP with e85 and two bolt ons) and it's way faster..
@@roboticvenom1935 hell the M240i smoking everything here stock.
Type-s should’ve kept the 3.5L v6 from the previous tlx models with the additional turbo setup. Wouldn’t have much competition in its class.
I'm surprised that it only took an exhaust for the TLX to virtually match the Stinger. I wonder if that suggests that the Type S' exhaust is unusually restrictive. This is might be old-fashioned Honda conservatism at work where tuning and emissions are concerned.
Put a it’s not just a “exhuast” it’s full catless downpipes straight through. Put a turboback exhaust on stinger and the gap will go back to schoolbus. Every car in the segment has a restrictive exhuast.
Right on, its like the stock jdm ep3 n dc5, the stock exhaust's see a difference in 10-15hp. As with ALL models, stock exhausts choke the engine in essence, crucial 1st mods should always be induction n full exhaust systems, mahoosive difference
Acura may not be the fastest but it's the best looking by a MILE
Kia destroys the Hondas as usual.
sad
The Type S sounds amazing!!
That Kia. That stealth MONSTER
It is when sam is getting paid to make it win.
@@mattsmith7379 Its really sad that a brand with supposedly 50 years or racing experience makes such a loser sports sedan that a get beaten in every drag race and is compared to its $20k cheaper sibling lol I hurts I understand
I would like to see the tuned Accord race an Elantra N with the DCT
Stage 4 accord vs the elantra n would be interesting
This was some good racing! That poor Accord driver had his mouth open in shock every single race feel so bad for the guy 😅😂.
But this just gives me further confirmation on how underrated that Kia Stinger 3.3tt platform is! Excellent aftermarket performance support and community! Full bolt ons and a lap3 Stage 2 ECU tune and your over 500hp and 600ft-lbs...450 to the rear wheels! Definitely my next car!
Yeah cause on how freakin bad the road was on his side.sheeez
What is the UA-cam channel for the Honda Accord guy? Need to know the parts being used?
The Acura did better than I thought it would.
Turbo cars really benefit from a full catless exhaust like this one has and that's why. Love the sound
Even if the tlx is slower than the stinger I would pick it. The engine sound is just beautiful.
so is the stinger with a proper exhaust. ❤ but i am biased, i own one haha. the tlx sounds great and is super good looking too!
Stinger is a beast!!
The Type S makes the Stinger look like a supercar.
Also will say i’m slightly disappointed in the Accord, with a tune doing 360lbs torque only being 3100lbs….🤔tsk tsk.
Honda/Acura are just not the performance girls they used to be.
they're terrible, really falling way behind everyone.
@Justin S. true. although it's still kind of slow given the huge difference in weight. it should have more power/weight than the other two.
@Justin S. but this one is tuned. the stock accord sport is actually faster than the non type s TLX too. basically Honda doesn't make cars for performance even if you mod them you still can't get much out if it.
Hey Sam please put out all the lame fan boy accord excuses. We need a Accord 2.0 vs Acura TLX Type S rematch. That way accord can have a nice comfortable lane. That should settle things, unless it rains or the lanes need to be repaved or some other stupid excuse. Stinger proved itself rocks, road cracks and all...
Cant get enough of my stinger
The TLX has a full turboback exhaust (catless downpipes with straighpipes after that) should get atleast 30-40whp. That’s why it kept up better with stinger. Idk what’s going on with Accord I thought it would do better ona roll. Also the gt2 awd stinger weighs basically the same as Type s about 4150. Only the base 3.3tt AWD GT weigh just over 4000lbs. They don’t make that trim anymore though.
Wow! The accord was tuned, Stinger is fast but of course I still gotta go with type s for looks of course it's because I have one. Good race
The Accord's "avertised horsepower" was a joke and was smoked . The Acura was better but beat like a rug . All hail the new king Stinger !!! Good race Sam !!!
I can tell you that the advertised power is no joke. Keep in mind it's 300 WHP to a FWD car.
I have a 2.0T myself and when it was stock it would fight for traction from a dig, by tuning it you're only making it worse
You'd need to do way more than just higher your HP/torque numbers to be able to put that power down on the road
Phearable stage 3 on the dyno when I ran it was only like 267whp. I keep seeing different numbers. Add flex fuel to the accord and both the tlx and stinger get walked. Add a tune to the tlx or stinger and the accord gets left behind.
@@jeffbaker2267 comparing Dyno numbers makes it hard to prove anything since they read differently. Mustang dynos read lower than a Dyno jet so it's very possible a 500hp car on a Dyno jet gets smoked by a 450hp car on a mustang dyno. Real world results are always the best comparison. I always thought the Dyno numbers for the tuned Accords were a bit exaggerated and after seeing this video woth the other cars (with drivetrain loss of about 21% applied) the Accord should've won especially being lighter.
Seems the accord has an off the shelf “300” hp tune and no tire set up to back it up
Ive beaten a stinger on a roll race before. On ktuner stage 2 running e45, stock turbo & indy 500 tires.
The type S exhaust is a monster
The accord continues to amaze me even if it lost. Price point and reliability is awesome
I've been waiting for this
Well worth it
That poor Accord riding on bad pavement
It's not fair because it's riding on the edge of the track.
Good races. Now it is time to get a Type-S with tune in the mix now that are finally available.
Good run, its safe to say up to this point that the Type S wont catch anything within it class in straight line performance even with bolt on.
Good run tho Sam, please keep up the good works along with contents.
It’s Safe to say you don’t know what your talking about lmao
@@andrewmoreno7193 the tlx type s performance is lame every reviewer has said so, why is it so slow
@@andrewmoreno7193 its safe to say that you still living in denial along with Acura performance design team.
FYI this isn't the year 2007 where 355 HP is impressive from factory, but the 4200 lbs does.
@@truonghthe He’s in denial!! The TLX is a huge disappointment but Honda fanboys refuse to admit it. My Polestar makes more power and it’s a 2016
@@andrewmoreno7193 Acura is trash. Sales are down because they dont make anything good..
That Acura sounds incredible. The stinger is fast but man the Acura looks great and sounds epic. I wish they gave her more power and let it launch harder. That accord should have dusted them both for a roll I have no idea why it didn’t win with it being lighter and with that power
I agree something might not be right with the tune he has on it. Def should have done better imo.
Very nice video Sam. That accord did amazing considering it's not the turbo. I can't help but drool over the Acura though.
It is the turbo though. Accords only had the 1.5 or 2.0 with turbo. Some civics had the 2.0 non turbo.
Lol all Accords are turbo now, and this was the 2.0. It still got beat by a Kia when it was tuned 😂
@@ryanturnerboles oh okay I didn't know that. But the Kia is a V6, extra turbo, and all wheel drive. I sure hope it'd win lol😅
@@priapicpear4200 exactly Ryan doesn’t know what he’s talking about lol
The fact a 4 cylinder 2.0 was so close to beating a v6, TWIN TURBO is kind of embarrassing. If its got so much power then why was it not much further ahead?
I want to see the new CT5 V race something! unless the channel has done this already?
I’m wondering why you guys never test the stinger 4 cylinder lol 😂. The sound of that Acura though 😍🥰😍🥰😘
One friend has a Stinger 2.0T and another Honda Accord 2.0T. Stinger beats it by a hair (again, depends on drivers). Not many tuned 2.0T Stingers I believe!
@@5veRodriguez yeah figured but I’d love to see it. Id love to see the Taurus sho awd TT vs the stinger gt
Do they not do emissions testing in Ontario?
Filmed in Mexico. All cars reverted back to OEM and shipped back to Ontario afterwards.