Marine Corps: Women Worse Than Men In Combat
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2015
- A year long study by the Marine Corps found that all male units performed better than squads that were mixed gendered. All male units were faster, more lethal, and more capable of evacuating casualties. All male squadrons performed better than 69% across the board at hitting targets, climbing obstacles, and also avoiding injuries. Cenk Uygur, Ana Kasparian (The Point), Ben Mankiewicz (What The Flick?!), and Wes Clark Jr. hosts of The Young Turks discuss.
Do you agree with the study? Should women be allowed to serve on the front lines? Let us know in the comments below.
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“A yearlong Marine Corps study trying to understand how gender integration would affect combat readiness has found that all-male units were faster, more lethal and able to evacuate casualties in less time.
Overall, according to a summary of the study, all-male squads performed better than mixed groups in 69 percent of the tasks evaluated.”
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Men and women aren't equal
Thank you, Men do some thing better Women do other things better. In terms of combat, a Male is ALL AROUND superior.
Mr Popo they have equal rights but they are biologically different
We are equal in importance, but no, we are not equal.
David Archer like the right to abandoned a Baby if they dont like it and also the right to make a man pay for it if she does
David Archer like the right to abandoned a Baby if they dont like it and also the right to make a man pay for it if she does
They needed a study to find this out?
Women are factblind
MrGenedancingmachine Exactly my thought process too haha
They needed a study to prove it to the non-believers
George holbrook
WHOOSH!
MrGenedancingmachine in this PC world is less painful to spend tons of money on stupid studies, as opposed to explain to the 50 loud feminazis in the country that men are stronger than women
They didn't pass the minimum. The minimum was lowered so that they could pretend to pass.
It's like being the only person in a class out of A's to get a C, so the teacher lowers everyone else's grade to a D so that you pass.
@@littlebosaMusic but he still passes with a c
we need to send James Cameron to the depth of seas to raise the bar!
@JN - 06BA 906155 Williams Parkway Sr PS they do the same thing for female firefighters. It’s really scary actually.
Exactly
“Can’t you just raise the standards for women?”
“Well then you just wouldn’t have women.”
I dont like to work with women in a men job
@@Chris-jo4yo 🤷♂️
@@24sirosaydeacker57 im serious
We need to raise women's standard for firefighters trainning
@@24sirosaydeacker57 I dno't think they meant it in a sexist type of way. I think they meant, for life saving jobs, standards can't be lowered.
What? Sexual dimorphism exists in humans? Holy shit.
+Idiodyssey87 Who could've guessed?!
+Idiodyssey87 ^ this ^
+Idiodyssey87 Was gonna say exactly this lol.
Daniel Robinson Precisely, the military doesn't deal in luxury - only necessity.
+Namelessandpure What strengths are those? Anything they could do men could do better. And sending a marine into a combat zone without all the necessary equipment, body armor, weapons, water, food etc seems very dangerous to them and their squad. Endurance is a big thing to.
There is a reason war has primarily been a male thing, because men are stronger, are able to carry more equipment and for longer and can stand face to face with another man in combat (not as important today).
I think once DARPA develops some sort of exo skeleton or nano-suit (they are working on them, I am sure in the theoretical stages) then women may very well be as effective as men in war.
Was anyone really surprised by this?
+jed52 You surprised by Women Kurdish Fighters that been fighting ISIS for years?
only feminists
Ahmed Sayed
dont forget the kurdish women soldiers and commanders fighting ISIS
*****
Dont forget the Kurdish women soldiers and Commanders
+Henbot peshmerga is more of a rag tag militia not to knock them down or anything because for a militia they are good. they are in a desperate situation where they have to defend their homes from invaders and in that situation you fight hard (normally). i'm not sure how many of them would be able to make it through 16 weeks of marine boot camp and be combat ready by marine standards though. a few of them might be but as the general rule, idk.
I served in the Army in a mixed unit.
Women can do the non-combat tasks just fine. They're generally incapable of combat. Any denial of this is denying science.
Not trying to be funny, where you in combat?
I wouldn't want to give birth.
Unijah Johnson ok the same could be said about literally any statement you make. If you obsess over including every littler minority case in your arguments you’ll devolve into just making a fool of yourself. There will always be exceptions to generalizations, that’s already implied just not stated.
@Unijah Johnson that is the thing, EVERYTHING is average or comparing both sides, like in strenght field, you cant compare the strongest woman to an average male, you compare the strongest woman to the strongest man...
@Unijah Johnson ik, me neither man, because i dont do MMA,jiu jitsu,taekwondo, etc, but what i said is that you cant compare yourself with a MMA fighter (lets say Ronda Rousey) but what you CAN compare is Mcgregor or tony fergunson or yoel romero to ronda rousey (cuz they're special cases)
The two women who passed Ranger school were allowed to see the course beforehand, and, the men were not. This eventually came out.
i also heard somewhere it was dumbed down a bit too
Seriously!?!? Do you have a source, I’d like to look into it.
Only one woman ever passed SF selection, she is literally a extreme badass one in hundreds of millions, honestly I do think their is some doom slayer chick who could pass, but those two are no slayers
Sure they passed ranger school
Didn’t they also have multiple tries that people don’t usually get as well?
OK Young Jerks...your leg is blown off and loosing blood fast. Who do you want to carry you out? A115lb woman or a 200 lb man?
Badass profile pic man
thxs dude
+Ei Pi we need men in war. women make up society and men protect it. its simple ana!
its biology.....you cant change that with rules/regulations!
Ei Pi I agree ! Males are stronger (on avarage) because of bio!
"you should read the study first"
"no no no no"
shows the level of research on this show
+borel2016 They are glorified Google search artists.
+borel2016 You're taking it out of context. He wasn't saying that he shouldn't read the study. Those "no no no no" were to indicate that the other guy had the wrong idea, and that he wasn't about to say what the other dude thought he was going to say.
Shows your level of listening comprehension...
+borel2016 On point! LOL!!
+Unahim I knew what he was trying to say but they kept interrupting him while he was trying to articulate his point. He was just saying that the study may or may not have bias. He wasn't saying it did and he wasn't saying it didn't, just that the possibility existed. It's like a study about gmo's being published by monsanto.
+Unahim I think his out-of-context statement was what made the joke work.
“Women generally don’t freak out like men do” that’s total bs, we had two women in our platoon and when we were taking enemy fire from insurgents in Benghazi the women completely shut down.
@@user-ec9ht2fk9l lol
@@user-ec9ht2fk9l well i mean he alive to make the comment sooooo........
What were those females doing? FET, combat engineers, or what?
Not mikasa ackermam
@@hdgaiqnwknz6032 this ain't anime, and she's an Ackerman lol.
In other news, Water wet?
Like coochie
Somebody watch batman vs superman
Shocking new:we are controling a bone mech with flesh armor
cnn: is water really wet
Not water that is a solid or evaporated.
In other news......water is wet and the sky is blue.
The sky isnt actually blue 😜
kickinitoldschool03 sky isn't blue lol
Deborah money
They needed tax payers money 2 proof that
kickinitoldschool03 water cannot be wet--look it up. Please stop saying dumb things like that
frozen water not wet and sky is black at night frequently :)
biologically men are stronger you cant call your body sexist
optimus moose.
Yes, but some men are weak, and some men are strong. You can’t assume that all men are stronger than women. That’s just moronic.
BarbaricTemptress if men and women did the same marine fitness over a long period of time the man would still become fitter and stronger due to genetics and testosterone and muscle recovery
THOT DESTROYER.
Yes, but that doesn’t mean women aren’t capable of being on the front lines. It’s not like all male soldiers are equal in strength either.
pak0pak rides.
I'm not 'scraping the barrel'. I'm simply keeping open-minded and telling all possibilities.
pak0pak rides.
I wouldn't say 'men's standards.' Some guys don't even pass the training test. It's harsh, of course.
If you pass the training, you should be allowed in, no probs.
In my country Nigeria, we ran a 20 kilometers for officers enlistment, women had a 15 minutes head start but about 80 percent of the men came earlier than the first woman.
this show hurts my brain
Tom Gribbin ::: These two are Motel 6 pool cleaners.
Agreed
I think the main host dude gave me brain cancer with his bullshit
How hard is it to get this: WE ARE ALL EQUAL BUT WE ARE NOT ALL THE SAME.
+The muslim Atheist god damn, people are so stupid
+The muslim Atheist yup :)
+The muslim Atheist Sounds kinda like separate but equal.
ProjectORION89 no, the separate but equal laws was enacted by government to keep white people rich and colored people poor. What I'm saying is: there are something that women can't really do like a man and there are something that men can't do like women, and there are a lot of things that we both can do, since we are all human after all.
***** totally, I'm racist, since you missed my point. I said, in the 1870s the USA government enacted Jim Crow laws of spear ate but equal to keep the whites in middle and upper class while disenfranchising black people everywhere.
it took a study to figure this out?
Rafi Hernandez in Obama and Hillary's America it does.
Well it only takes common sense to figure it out, but to know the actual numbers and exact causes takes a study.
Thats why people do studies, to examine a question/problem closely and analyze it.
José Guzman Should we do a study whether we can breathe then?
I love how they try to underscore the study just cuz its conclusion without showing any of the methods or the calculations behind it.
José Guzman yes!!@@ and they still don't buy it!!!!!
Everyone except Wes seem kind of surprised. I don't know why, I thought it was well known scientifically that men are physically stronger and faster than women. That's why sports aren't mixed. We have failed as a society if feelings are more important than facts
Chan Bros point to me where exactly I said that, moron
Chan Bros you're putting words in my mouth. I never said professional female athletes aren't better than recreational male athletes. I said men are stronger than women. Not every man is stronger than every woman. My point about sports is that they divide genders for a reason so I am surprised that any of the panel tried to question the validity of the study. No where did I say women shouldn't be allowed in the army or that they should even do the same testing as men. I merely commented about the reaction of some of the panel having a hard time accepting the conclusion of a study which just validates the point that everyone in the world knows but many will not admit allowed for fear of being called sexist
Chan Bros buddy, I'm not sure who's points you're trying to debate but it sure isn't any of mine
Chan Bros you sound insane. Where did I say that women shouldn't fight on the front lines?
Chan Bros it's funny because you quoted the part that I actually said then you ended your quotation so you could add in your part. You even know I didn't say women shouldn't fight on the front lines so why do you keep saying that's my point
People are losing common sense day by day, because they talk too much.
Too much talking and not enough listening. Well I should say too much talking and listening in their echo chambers.
Hy im in the fruture common sense is no longer a thing sciencetist say there are 72 genders
sounds about right
Wouldn’t you want women to protect our country? If anything we should be hoping there could be a chance women are almost equally to men in the military
@@hopelesslyoptimistic8231 yes but the standards are becoming lower for woman that is not fair
It seems like These people are literally dancing around the fact tht this was a legitimate study.
John Maxwell
Study of marines by marines ------------------> reject immediately
Cenk’s logic. If I don’t agree with it, then it’s a fake study.
howard baxter are these motherfuckers even turkish
Lol his logic was " keep in mind this is a study done by the MARINES "
These people are literaly dancing around the fact that it is an outcome which didn't require a study at first place, and which doesn't surprise anyone who can visualise a fight.
Amazing that we need a study to prove this. No offense, but use your common sense.
+Bobbin' Williams common sense says the sun rotates around the earth cause thats what it looks like when I look at the sky. By your logic we should dismiss the notion that the earth revolves around the sun cause its not in agreement with common sense.
I'm not understanding what is lost by having thoughtful, fact based, data driven decision making.
Daryl A
No I just think it's way more obvious that women would make less effective soldiers than men (just based on observation) than it is that the earth revolves around the sun. We need the science to prove things like that, but we don't necessarily need studies to be able to come to the conclusion that most women (on average) probably wouldn't be as proficient on the battlefield as your average man. I don't honestly see how you could compare those two different things as if they're on the same level of obviousness.
+Bobbin' Williams Beware of obviousness! Welcome to planet Earth, sir, where more than two millenias after Plato's death, common sense still kills millions of people each year.
Gaius Baltar
Aye, it's true.
Da Pikle Samurai I'm not understanding why anyone would argue against gathering knowledge, as you seem to be. Its like standing on a tree branch, sawing it off and expecting not to fall. Knowledge is what separates America from these backwards 3rd world countries who live like its the 5 century.The result of the study seems to support your position, only now it supported by facts. Why is that bad?
My point is that common sense does not always provide the right answer. I could come right back and say instinct is more important for survival than common sense, but that has nothing to do with the point I was making.
America's military does not work by picking the best fighters in the population. Its an all volunteer force and in American society, 99% of men in modern generations never serve 1 day in any branch of service. If it was about picking the best fighters we would draft college and professional athletes. The only top tier athlete I can think of who decided to serve was Pat Tillman. He was truly a hero.
Women don't freak out in stressful situations? GTFOH, I'm a retired staff sergeant of the U.S Army Infantry (11 Bravo) when I was attached to this 88M (truck drivers) unit, we would go and stay out in the wilderness for no less than a month, the female soldiers would freak out over every little thing (every insect you can think of, deer, snakes, rodents etc). They would freak out when we had to do a 15 mile road march in full gear with your 50 to 75 lbs rucksacks on our back, there's plenty more but I'll leave it at that. I'm all for equality, but some things are not meant for the average woman to be doing. Female soldiers would literally cry when being yelled at or having to do push ups during hell week in basic training when you first arrive (two week intervals).
Not all woman are the same douche bag some of the most strong mentally people I know are woman you gotta sometimes go through some shit to come out better minded but it depends on upbrining and what you have been around
I can only imagine when you had to learn what you can eat in the wild
@@merosepearl6325 Pick one woman to fight in the men's Heavyweight Division in boxing or the NFL
@@PermanentHigh bruh Moment
Women go in labor...we do freak out. I am a women, and I don´t want the military to be turned into a SJW experiment. They have the national security in their hands. The military is not some pink hat SJW rally in Washington DC where you think you are fighting the system with some stupid speech like Madonnna or Ashley Judd.
This idiots are very confortable in their studio and have no idea what they are talking about.
Maybe women should be firemen,,,we could lower the standards so that women could do as well as men. We could explain this to the fire...
WeDontThink but there are women fireman
We can always ask the fire to go easy on them and explain that its for equality and if it doesn't listen we can call it sexist
@@kalewilson7756 we can also flag fire videos on youtube and get its videos banned too.
@@chanbros6110 making chili at the HQ isn't the same as carrying an unconscious person
@@KvltKommando firefighters are trained for that. In the military there is gear that you are carrying and gear that the other person is wearing but for grabbing a normal person should be fine.
The women who finished Ranger school had an extra 90 prep school for Ranger School and then allowed to repeat several tests and phases multiple times until they passed. Men were not allowed to do this.
That is NOT fair.
They had 5 attempts, when men are only allowed 3. The Military admitted to this, the news didn't bat an eyelid.
They didn't admit to the 3 month prep course, but it more than likely happened.
I can back this up. I actually talked to a SFC about this who was an instructor at ranger school who was their cadre. He said they got trained on the classes before they went and they had a nutrisionest assigned to them prior to the school to ensure they ate healthy and were prepared for it
David Lenz yeah. Let find the info for you.
manny bravo Any hard data on this? Not saying you are wrong (I would believe it) but anyone can say anything on the internet.
Two years ago I was active duty in the Marine corps. I felt the gender separation from MOS may have been outdated, and that woman being introduced could do no harm in regards to combat roles. Then one day before my third deployment I was assigned to be a volunteer for a training operation in preparation for the deployment. We we're sitting in a MRAP replica that was flipped upside down, we all had a full basic combat load. The instructor named off a woman to pull me out of the MRAP I was unconscious, the vehicle was on fire and she had 2 mins to get me out.
She couldn't, the instructor then put in a second lady to help, they still couldn't in time. After the third they were able to. These women were fit, they did pt never fell out from what I know, went to the gym had 22 or less min 3 mile run times. At that moment I realized the ugly truth. That needlessly throwing diversity in the ranks, could have resulted in my death. My mother and father and wife would mourn my passing not because I was directly hit, but because someone not fit was allowed to enter the fray based solely on their gentiles.
The notion that your thirst for diversity and "equality" overpowers the right of someone life sickens me. Cause at the end of the day, that is what this boils down to. Anyone who has been in combat in any branch understands what I am saying.
Well, if you didn't want to risk your life you shouldn't have signed up in the first place. You could just as easily have no one left alive to pull you out of there in the first place and have the same results.
In this scenario you pointed, my life would end because everyone else was either dead or had no consciousness or was physically unable to move due to have their leg bones shattered. These consequences or potential realities is in no way, shape or form related. These are factors beyond control, But putting in someone who can't do the job because you wan't to feel "open" is not the same. Of course by your logic when you drive you accept the risk of death by automobile accident. So why try to stop or apply laws discouraging or preventing intoxicated drivers right? I mean you can do by a sober driver who is not distracted.
Christian Martin that's an unfair analogy seeing as when you sign up for the military you know full well you'll be intentionally risking your life while invading and occupying other countries. That's completely different from a country making its roads safer. But if you'd rather play it safe I hear Costco is hiring.
ChakatBlackstar You win the prize for the most ignorant response. America could use fewer of you, why don't you just self-deport?
ChakatBlackstar My point, which is clearly too complicated for you to comprehend is whenever you agree to do something, or partake in anything you accept risk. But there are risk that can easily be mitigated. Again when you drive a car, you know full well that death by car accidents or injuries are common. But trying to limit or remove drunk drivers decreases that risk. You see it's a variable that can be to a degree controlled.
To be honest, it's a better example then the military as more people die in car accidents every year then have died in The War on Terror. 32,675 died in car crashes in 2014 for example, 96 a day average. compared to 2,385 who died in combat in Afghanistan (since we sent boots on the ground), and 20,000 injured. Even if you combined the injured and dead driving a car is a more dangerous prospect.
And even if I wanted to be ignorant like you, your logic still melts away. All I'd have to do to defuse everything you said is "So our country should strive to make our soldiers safer, by eliminating those who can't physically or mentally handle the task." But don't worry you narrow minded egotistical fool. I am including men in that category. And trust me, men are denied enlistment, kicked from training, discharged from the military or refused deployments on these grounds all the time.
As a recently EAS'd Marine (5 years) my experience tells me most Marines are 100% about having women in combat roles IF women can pass male standards
Tom what?? Hell no. As an EAS’d Marine as well, that is a bad idea even if they can pass male standards.
@@licktin1091 why? If they can pass ?
"Who did the study?"
"The Marine Corps."
its entertaining watching them execute the mental gymnastics of not admitting that men perform better because they're physically stronger than females
That cenk guy is a complete moron. Is ridiculous how pc the guy is. Your not fooling anybody dude so stop being so fake lmao.
The weaseling around about the legitimacy of the study.
Cenk needs to find a replacement for himself. Seriously, "Um ACKCHTUALLY" should be on his forehead. At least the girl is reading the article and being realistic about her thoughts....but Cenk always has to jump in whenever his narrow agenda is threatened.
In general maybe. It just happens that not all of us are the generic type. Or are you saying that you are automaticly stronger than me just because you are male?
+Quiwi Lin Lisolet
Chances are a million to one, that he is stronger than you, just because hes male. Thats reality.
How can you disagree with a factual study?!
Adrian Langford These are The Young Turks my friend they are crazy
Earth And the first thing the host said is "Marines are knuckleheads".
Because it doesn't co-exist with their way of thinking and how the world should work.
+SanDan3rdDan Because, you know, what would the people who actually have to deal with real combat know about war? When it comes to military efficiency, I'd much rather trust some dickless number-cruncher in a lab somewhere who makes studies I agree with than the only people whose opinion on this matter I should actually listen to.
OckhamAsylum ok
Cav scouts will know what I'm talking about. We had a live round stuck in the breach of one of our Brads during Table VIII. Two female safety officers thought they were hot shit and came over to remove the cannon complete w/barrel out of the trunion. We stood at the ramp as they struggled and struggled to even pivot the cannon. Needless to say, after 45 mins I sent two scrawny privates into the turret to pull the cannon and 7mins later it was on the ramp with the track pivoted so we could dismantle the feeder and pull the track and bolt backwards. Those two females were dripping with sweat and holding their shoulders.
Sure, you can complete 19D school. You can even drive the hell out of a Bradley. Might even shoot the heck out of one. But when the SHTF and you have a misfire and frozen breach, there is no time in front of the enemy for social experiments. Male and Female bodies are designed for specific functions in life. I know I know I know, you are probably thinking I'm saying barefoot and pregnant. NOPE, not at all. But what I am saying is when lives are at stake, and upper body strength on demand is the deciding factor on whether or not me and my Lt. have to stand in front of some private's wife and child and explain that his female gunner and commander couldn't clear a misfire in time and they got overran, I would rather offend the PC crowd then to lose any one of my troopers, female troopers included. Because unbeknownst to some, making these decisions to allow women in those types of units will ultimately land some unlucky female private on a tank, Bradley or LAV. You may have some say so in your MOS but the needs of the Army come first as well as unit of assignment.
I guarantee if you take a trip down to any recruiting station and ask them how many females are signing up for "Direct" Combat MOSs, they will tell you the numbers are extremely low. So a handful of testosterone swallowing feminists are setting the rest of the women up for failure. Will a woman fire her weapon to defend herself or platoon, of course she would (Well not Jessica Lynch). Is a woman capable of joining patrols, yep. But MOSs that commonly rely on strength should not be open to women IMHO. You have to remember, you can't make policy to accommodate the 13 women in this country who look like Mike Tyson. You make policy that governs the "ENTIRE" force. And the entire force isn't lining up to join Combat Arms. CA is but 2-4% of the entire force.
For the record, Israel does not have females in direct combat units. They protect border crossings and are in ceremonial infantry units. Namely the Caracal battalion. There is a HUGE difference in combat MOSs and "Direct" Combat purposed units. A Army Heavy or Mechanized Division is a Combat Division. But not every unit in the Division is a Direct Combat unit. Somebody has to perform maintenance on vehicles, treat the wounded, feed the troops, ensure their pay is correct etc. Out of 25000 soldiers organic to a division, probably less than 2500 actually see the enemy and engage him. SO yeah. Let women join combat units, let them earn all the accolades afforded the unit for it;s performance in combat. But leave the heavy lifting on the tanks and brads to those more suited for it. This is not a laughing matter. It's about life or death which 100% affects mission outcome.
There is always that one person who will say something about Israel and that I'm lying about the female combat roles. So for that dude/duddette here you go:
" Despite being officially classified as combat soldiers, women in combat roles are not deliberately deployed into combat situations. They are expected to respond in the event a combat situation does erupt, but are not deployed to situations where there is a high risk of combat. The three mixed-sex infantry battalions are deployed to border patrol duties on the Israeli borders with Egypt and Jordan and security duties in the Jordan Valley, and female infantry soldiers are barred from joining the front-line combat infantry brigades which are deployed in the event of war. Female tank crews, who are also only regulated to border guard duties, do not serve in the regular armored combat units."
Just admit it, men do all the hard work.
Women want equal representation just not on anything that requires hard work like construction, waste management, oil field work
MarioLoco03 huh? What’s that even supposed to mean? Women don’t do hard work?
Just because men can lift more weight don’t mean they do all the hard work.
Chan Bros in the Marine Corps, yes. Men do the hard work.
That’s what the video is about dumbass
Men do 99% of the hard work. I dont see too many women lining up to be in construction
ChrisPewKreme ok, so if you are not in the marine corp no other human beings are doing hard work?
That makes perfect sense 👌🏼
LMAO! Cenk's attempts at whiteknighting getting shutdown by everyone on the panel is hilarious.
+Titus Orelius He seems to be concerned with who did the study this time!?
+Titus Orelius I guess conservative habits die hard: if data doesn't agree with you, attack the data.
+Titus Orelius Whats more offensive to women than being a condescending misogynist? Being a condescending pro-feminist.
*****
You obviously weren't paying attention or just don't know what whiteknighting is.
*****
Nope.
I don't even know why I still watch the young turks, it always makes me so angry
What exactly made you so angry about this discussion?
i feel you XD
For me it's for humour's sake; Anna and Cenk are idiots, which is why it's fun to see their bull-headed extreme leftist opinions.
No matter if they make you mad, at least you come to the table to listen to the enemy. Most cannot do this.
I love to hear the crazy they defecate out of their mouths.
Look at TYT struggle with this, it's hilarious
actually its only Cenk.
@@finalfrontier001 simp
Wow, we need a study to tell us what we've known for the entirety of human history.
but still, it is a great idea to put figures in what it is something already known.
How is this even a story? Men are without a doubt stronger, faster, and more athletic
I've talked to a feminist that disagrees.
+Vecheslav Novikov yeah I talked to a guy that doesnt believe in gravity. dumbasses these days
+cerniglia65 Not all forms of athleticism. Females are without doubt more flexible and also quicker in changing directions.
+DarkTriad Because changing direction and being flexible is so important and useful.
LyricalMajesty For being deadly spies or agents sneaking into buildings, light footsteps, fitting through vents, learning high kicks, back flips, gymnastics, coordination or running non-linear.
Is this really a suprise?
+Tyrone Biggums nope
+Tyrone Biggums
I just think the tests are too physical, yes men have higher upper body strength, but warfare is far more technological than physical now, so it shouldn't be the determining factor.
+Tyrone Biggums Honestly males of our species evolved to be "fighters" for lack of a better term and women evolved to be nearly perfect parental beings. I mean our society being modern has greatly effected this but you can't overlook our base evolutionary advantages.
+Aurelie Nani what tech is gonna help you outrun a bullet or carry someone who is hurt?
LCarlTBM x yeah poor of words I know. It's too late for me to be making posts or comments.
It is normal. Women are not nearly as strong, fast and lethal as men. The difference in reflexes is also astonishing. Women are not made to be fighters, the only acceptable situation in which they should fight is when defending their offspring - that's it.
I'm sorry I could only focus on your profile pic and username
@@misnomer6345 beautiful aint it
I spent 6 years in the Marines and have been in law enforcement for 25 years. 4 of that was on SWAT. In every case that demanded strength and endurance, women could not perform-period. The chicks on SWAT team were the tops among their sister peers and could not pass the pull up requirement nor could they clear the 8 foot wall with their gear without assistance. There are plenty of men who cannot perform either, but there’s also a larger pool of men that can. You have to ask yourself what’s more important. Inclusion vs mission success with minimal casualties.
Why don't they also do a study on how much increased pregnancy there is before a deployment. Women always get pregnant before a deployment so they don't have to go.
+Jim Ro
I heard about that. Apparently it is widespread. So much for equality in the military...
Political correctness does not allow to speak the truth.
+Jim Ro Should be in the contract that they have to get an abortion if they get pregnant when they're on call for deployment
+TaylorJohnson1020 Lol.
+Beautiful Unicorn Don't worry they die young.
Jim Ro some women do, some others don’t
As a former Marine forced to work with women marines I have seen the difficulties that women have in completing their mission. Their basic problem is a lack of endurance and difficulty carrying heavy weights while humping mountains. Women are just as smart, can be taught to shoot straight and kill . genetics and gender are very difficult to overcome. I personally would not want to go to war with women in my squad. There are jobs in the corps that fit women perfectly....going into combat is not one of those jobs. Siemper Fi
you are 100% correct sir. I saw this personally happen. The field of communications was open to women, but the day when we were required to go on a relatively short forced march in the mountains of california with a prc-77 and one's other equipment the women ended up riding in the jeep.
I also believe women lack that extra gear in a violent situation, the killer instinct that switches on when your life is in danger and you need to kill someone to survive.
I grew up in the military but never served. I was in law enforcement, however, so we had training there with females in our ranks. Even during training, especially defensive tactics (unarmed combat basically), the females always struggled. Whenever it got intense or a female was being dominated, they almost always did one of two things: got beat up or curled up in a ball. I've seen more than a few outright freeze during training and not know how to deal with a big, angry man coming at them. Of course there some males who do this too but pretty much every female struggled, even the best ones who were mediocre compared to the men and vastly outperformed by the elite guys. That was just during training. On the street, it's commonplace for male officers having to jump in and help females during a fight. Female officers are certainly useful when it comes to non-physical matters like talking with and searching female suspects, but when it comes to physical matters like a fight, they simply can't keep up.
rolonmascara I agree 100%. There may be the occasional monster woman who can pull her weight, but there are not many of them. We can't endanger the lives of our soldiers even more by being politically correct.
EVERYONE who disagrees with what you said needs to read it twice
rolonmascara siemper fi?
I was a light machine gunner im 6 feet 3 with full gear i weighed about 350 pounds in my gear how many women could drag me out of the fight
Holy cow that’s almost 3 times what I weigh (3x120=360). We’d be screwed if we had to rely on me!!
I know a woman who was the only one who made it back alive of all the soldiers she introduced me to. Lost about a dozen friends.
Well I'm convinced. We should only have female soldiers from now on, they're clearly more superior. Maybe she was the only one who hid while everyone else was slaughtered? Maybe she accidentally shot them all in the back? Maybe she snapped and killed them all?
Its obvious Cenk never served.
henry dicarlo cenk has no clue.
you mean like Trump didnt
addo1001 what? I dont see Trump calling the marines liars, or knuckleheads. What does he have to do with this??
too fat
henry dicarlo Cenk only served when the buffet was self service.
Women can't play sport's whith the men what makes you think they can fight a war
You brought out the most obvious fact out
Hu ss. You said it perfectly
Women's professional soccer team lost to 15 year old boys true storey and its not the only time
why aren't these women in the nfl then?
why are professional sports teams by majority segregated by gender?
Parker D'Alemberte always the kicker
*HUDSON: **_"Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?"_*
*VASQUEZ: **_"No. Have you?"_*
I was in the Marines infantry. C 1/9. Sleeping freezing Dying of thirst. Walking all day up and down hills with packs and guns and ammo. I don’t think I saw a woman for four years. Thee whole idea is insane
Yes. I am woman. If this is hard for most men, I can´t even think of what happens to us women. We don´t have the strength and some days a month for some women this would be impossible. This idiots int he confort of their studio have no idea what they are talking about. It is very easy to change nature with a speech.
As a marine I can speak to this, the basic physical test women do not do, a man has to run 3 1/2 miles, do 20 pull ups and sit ups in the pft, the women have a much lower standard, no pull ups, just hang from the bar, only have to run a 1.5 miles. If you are wounded and your life depends on a woman saving you , well, you will die, not acceptable
All Marines do the same PFT, women just have different standards. they still run 3 miles just
like males but the the standards for the scores are different from males same goes for the crunches and pull-ups
I was about to write that the minimum requirements are different,but I wasn't sure. So thanks, you confirmed what i though...
I can tell from your comment you are not a Marine. Any real Marine would know that female Marines run the same distance as males. However they are allowed about 4 more minutes to finish. Also its 3 miles, not 3.5. Your stolen valor is quite obvious to real Marines. Please next time you want to act like a Marine, spend 2 mins googling things first.
Bret Spangler they still have to run the three miles. It's the pull-up part that seems to generate a lot of controversy
Its easy, google Marine Corps PFT standards and you will see that he is wrong. Every Marine, past and present knows the PFT standards.
But what they don't mention is that the physical fitness requirements for men and women in the marines are different even today. So women have less requirements than men. So women are entered into the marines unable to perform the minimum requirements that are needed for men.
When I looked at the PT requirements for Army cadets, the maximum number of pushups pushups and faster 2 mile time for women were about equal to the minimum requirements for men. The only test that was equal across the board was sit-ups.
That should say a lot if you ask me.
The Army pt test for men is minimum 42 pushups, 62 sit ups, 14 min 2 mile run. The minimum for women 22, 42, and 16 min. But after basic the ave male recruit improves to 62 pushups, 82 sit ups, 13 min 2 mile run. The standards should be the same.
@Tennessee country boy I am saying that for a female to max they have to meet the male minimums.
They mentioned Israely women in combat, yes but there are very few because they only allow the ones who can do the exact same requirements as the men. In the U.S. military people keep saying the women do the minimum to pass but that's misleading because they lowered the standards for women to pass. The men have a much higher minimum requirement to pass then the women do. For instance the pt test for men to pass is a minimum of 42 pushups, 62 sit ups, and a 14 min 2 mile run. For women its 22, 42, and a 16 min 2 mile run. Plus at the end of basic training you have to finish a 12 mile road march with 70 lb back pack. And by the end of training the ave male doubles all his pt test scores.
Oh woooow discovery of the year! What a shock! I mean who knew?!??! Woooow
Albert Reyes lol, my exact response. Like, how was this even considered a study. Who was actually naive enough as to be curious about what these statistics would show.
That’s what happens when you are an adult whose decisions have widespread impact, you make educated decisions based on empirical data, not assumptions based on observation or experience. But hey that’s why those who conducted these tests did so, and why you two are in a UA-cam comment section patting each other’s smooth brains
In war: 1 men = 10 women
Mario benitez please tell me you are being sarcastic
Ryan Logan I don't think he is but I'd agree with him
Mario benitez when my brother graduated marine boot camp, the platoons lined up after the parade as 2 companies to be dismissed. The first company, Charlie company, was made up of 3 male platoons. The second company, bravo company, was 2 male platoons and 2 female platoons. I guess bravo was a cooking and cleaning company.
Unfortionetley true
in war 1 man = anything that can hold a weapon. An 13 year old can take out a highly trained navy seal with an AK.
When liberals try to figure out reality.
hahahahahaha
lol
The 9.9k dislikes just proves the fact that women doesn't accept men as physically superior, I swear if they accepted this fact the world would be much more peaceful.
They weren't able to do the minimum, the bar was literally lowered so they would have a chance to pass.
For the next war i think we should have women battle zones specifically for women on both sides to fight each other. It's for fairness and equality, women can do war just as good as men
Honestly though, fuck war and fuck military.
+JCJ agree
Why do you wish to have a war?
Santiago Araiza I don't. But it's inevitable.
so you're saying that we should call ISIS and ask "Hey can you just only send your women soldiers on your next attack and we'll send just send our women soldiers and they'll fight so we can prove that women are 100% equal to men."
+JCJ Is it ironic that I agree with you? I spent 15 months fighting for various things that had nothing to do with freedom and everything to do with politics.
Cenk....Oh Cenk. Look at the study first before blurting out your opinions.
New around here?
+Something Something Something 🖕😑🔫
Cenk is an idiot
Women did worse than the bottom 5% of the males in problem solving under duress , whis is the big thing that get you through gunfights.
KwetsiG A microcosm of the problem with this "network".
WAIT!! MEN ARE BETTER THAN WOMEN IN COMBATS?!!!
*SHOCK**LIGHTNING IN THE BACK GROUND*
i used to be part of a hotshots crew fighting forest fires in Colorado,we were spread out on the line at our post's,when we were to retreat we were supposed do it together.there was this one woman got nervous and jumped the line without telling anyone and half the crew almost burned alive.
Feminist vs Marine core study This should definitely be interesting.
Haha I know right
you mean feminazis
Sean Cooper Are you ok? How was your day? I know a day full of bigotry instead of a real job can be depressing
Sean Cooper Before you head back to your Klu Klux Klan meeting I want to give you a little piece of advice KFC is really unhealthy and you should elevate your diet.
Sean Cooper hey man I'm a Audi guy, I think you need to stop projecting your lifestyle onto me it really not healthy
If some women can meet the same standards as men, then I have no problem letting them into the same combat roles as men. However, I have a big problem with lowering the standards just so more women can qualify. There are plenty of non-combat roles for women in the services, especially the navy and air force. If very few women make it into the marines and army infantry units, that's not the end of the world.
Absolutely agree. As they said, the top women equal the bottom men in physical ability. The standards have to be the same. There are women in the Rangers now and the Seals just allowed women this year without lowering the bar. Most women will probably go for executive positions rather than heavy combat jobs like the Marines. For those wanting active duty Special ops like the Rangers and Seals are ideal. Again, as long as the standards remain!
I disagree. It's not the same as firefighters or the police force. In the same study (I believe, may have been a different, similar study within the military), a problem that arose in mixed gender units that had nothing to do with females meeting the standards was males putting themselves in more dangerous situations in order to protect their female comrades. You can argue whether this is due to natural instinct or the men assuming that the women will need help in situations where they don't, but that doesn't really matter when the fact is that mixed gender units perform worse, and *more soldiers will die* in the same exact situation if it's a mixed unit versus an all male unit. We're talking about people's lives; it doesn't matter if it seems sexist if it's avoiding preventable deaths.
Yes, if the guys save one soldier over another based on gender there's a big problem. If the stronger man doesn't protect the weaker men in combat because he's male, that's dangerous and needs to be addressed with better training.
***** Everyone should have choice. That's what a free civilization is. The more advanced, the more opportunity for all it's citizens. If someone can't accept that then they need to work on themselves.
I don't think you understand the morality of true freedom. It goes far beyond anything you've learned.
Rangers = Average infantry Marine. It's not WAY harder as you described.
Source: I went from Marine Corps to Army and became a Ranger. It's not harder.
Define ranger? scroll or tab? The tab is bullshit.
cool beans
if it wasn't for the tab school the scroll would have been forgotten. also, the current 75th infantry/ranger regiment were originally lrrp companies from Vietnam and recondo school.
not no more.
LOLOLOLOL. RIP doesnt make you a ranger.
If your a part of 75 Ranger Regiment than your special if you just earn ranger tab, is like infantry Marine
Wow what a shocker! It's almost like men are built taller stronger and faster.
Why is this news? Early Man were hunters and gatherers while the women took care of the children. Naturally men will be more proficient at certain physical tasks than men. Equality doesn't mean we have to be equally great at the same things. We were designed to complement each other.
+cyber6sapien actually hunter-gatherer cultures were far more egalitarian with regards to gender roles. women hunted alongside the men and men cared for children alongside the women. the inequality and mindset of male superiority came with the advent of agriculture.
+Corinn Heathers Citation needed.
Syntax Axe www.sciencemag.org/content/348/6236/796
www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/14/early-men-women-equal-scientists
+Syntax Axe
Bruh, don't bother. Feminism is a religion. And femi Nazis like Corrin are brainwashed with femi Nazi ideology to the point where you can't have a rational debate with them. They believe their religion is solid and impenetrable. Corrin is trying to wrap her feminist religion around whatever you say. She'll never let go of her religion. It has poisoned her mind.
Thursday121am hahahahahahahahaha
cool story bro
Man... Cenk is really struggling to swallow this pill.
Really pathetic. Imagine one day he would be completely redpilled. Would be like a nuclear blast.
The Red Pill.
Xsheo
It'll never happen because he use to be some type of "conservative when he was younger and he chose to swallow the blue pill. He wants to stay in the matrix of mental gymnastics lol
Indeed, his gullet does not expand to pass Red Pills like it does for Blue Pills.
thats what i was saying !!! just say it men make better soldiers than women
My favourite part is how they tried acting surprised. It goes well with them acting outraged, acting disappointed, and acting sad during the presidential election coverage. None of them are a loss for the acting profession though.
Its the young turks what do you Expect
Serving in the military is not a right.
Being effective in combat is important. Being progressive, fair, and accepting is not important. It literally does not warrant any amount of thought or concern in the context of organizing and maintaining a force who's job is to wage war and kill people before they kill you.
Yeah part of me wishes guns would disappear just so war would be more physical to remind people why having mixed squads is logically low outcome.
The military doesn't exist for the fulfillment of its individual citizens, but for the protection of the country. Only the best. We've come so far left that it's become reversed.
It's an been an all volunteer force for a long time now. No-one should join unless they are completely willing to do what they are told. A modern marine is a willing servant, not a conscript. We know far more about the risks and difficulties individuals will face physiologically and psychologically, but we've totally forgotten how to accept even trivial suffering. It's also should be more apparent now than ever to the civilian world just how menial most of the military's job actually is, the vast majority of Soldiers, Marines, Sailors and Airmen will never fire their weapon in anger, they're more likely either working at a computer in an office cubical, carrying cinder bricks to the other side of a base because a truck unloaded them on the wrong side, or sitting in a barracks talking about masturbation playing video games than to be in some dramatic confrontation with the enemy.
Couldn't have said it better I was thinking g the same thing when chunk said right now I'm all for equality... but when a real war happens maybe we should think twice....I can't believe these people have a platform to get there message out
No shit all male units perform better.
8:52 i always love how these two always synchronize
It isnt a slight difference its a BIG difference
Interesting debate: The 2 women who passed Ranger school. Actually had lowered standards and were allowed to repeat courses,hikes,tests,etc that they failed that got the men expelled. They even had a 2 star general cheer and help them along. The same general was even reported saying "2 women will pass"
They did something similar in the Royal Marines, as a fun little experiment. They still don't let women join front line regiments in the UK, the only way it could possibly work, is if they didn't have mixed units.
Fun fact: tyt is weak
NotYour AverageGamer do you have any proof of this not saying your lying just want to see yo data
It's true. I am well connected to the Ranger course in Ft Benning and they were given a lot of different chances. If it weren't for these exceptions there would have been zero women graduating. Here's a source if you don't take my word for it:
people.com/celebrity/female-rangers-were-given-special-treatment-sources-say/
I'd like to add that the article does not include everything that was allowed but it does include some of the more pertinent examples.
NotYour AverageGamer I read something on SOFrep saying that their classes had the lowest attrition rate to date for ranger school. That right there tells you the instructors were trying to take it easy on the class. Past graduates were furious
If I were a RANGER, I would be embarrassed. Personally I don't think those two passed RANGER school, between you and me. Secondly, why are trying to get men killed in combat if that were your son would you want him sacrificed over a woman. Thirdly, You ask were the future men are to join the military. Feminism is what happened to them...the future men to be are being raised by females and weak men that believe that women are equal to men. So the boys hear this propaganda and grow to be weak...did that answer your question.
+Jam Rock Passing Ranger School does not make them a "Ranger" Actual Army Rangers (75th Ranger Regiment) go through RASP (Ranger Assessment and Selection Program) , not "Ranger School". Ranger School is a leadership school.
What ever, at one time I respected Ranger\Airbourne...I would often defend the Rangers in front of other MARINES...but after this lol keep your Army ''so easy a woman could do it.'' SemperFi Over and Out...
Jam Rock I'm a Marine too man. No woman has been allowed into the 75th Ranger Regiment or completed their training. Those are the only *actual* Rangers in the Army. Just because you have a tab from completing "Ranger School", you are not a Ranger. You must complete RASP to be a Ranger. RASP IS DIFFERENT THAN "Ranger" School. The only thing common between them is the use of the word "Ranger". Look it up or continue to live in willful ignorance.
Jam Rock Do you not understand what I'm saying? 75th Ranger is NOT open to women.
And if you are keeping up to date on Marine Corps news, we have been ordered to have Co-ed boot now... just another step towards full integration.
WHAT ''FULL INTEGRATION.'' I do understand that it does not make them Rangers. The fact they can get to the course if proof that it is weak...Also the Marines did an all male unit verse a mixed unit the all male unit whipped ass at every obstacle and mission they were given. So is you want to fight the enemy with females go ahead its your funeral....no its the young devil dogs funeral make sure you tell HIS mother at least we have women in combat now and smile as you tell her that....
A 43 year old acquaintance of mine has less time to do a 2.5km run in the army than a 20 year old female. If girls wanna play a sport with boys - especially when lives are on the line - they better be prepared to keep up with them. If a girl can meet the same combat fitness requirements as a guy, then let her in. If not, then you have to say 'no' to her. Sorry, but equality also means one standard for all, not one for men and one for women.
In related news, the sun is hot.
I wore the uniform for 20 years and there's no greater, more effective way to prove that women can't hack it than being among them. I observed this firsthand, and documented the double-standards over and over. When the power-that-be discovered I was doing this, I found myself segregated from the others in the unit, openly denigrated and subjected to harsher standards than _any_ person, man or woman, could meet. For instance, when I was at Minot AFB in North Dakota, I observed and documented that any woman entering the workcenter could count on receiving some kind of award or recognition within the first 3-4 months while men worked their butts off and were rarely if ever recognized. This, they labeled "misogynist" because I had recorded names and dates of the events as they occurred.
It's popular to take single, unique examples of individual women and create fantastical scenarios in which they're proven superior--but it doesn't last beyond that scenario. A man who observes and comments that women get special treatment will find himself plunged, within two days, into a scenario in which he's dependent on one or more women to achieve a given goal--which magically appeared out of nowhere shortly after he made the observation. This, because it's vital that women receive special treatment while simultaneously denying its existence and any person who refuses this denial _must_ be destroyed.
There used to be a time when people were afraid that some dark secret they kept hidden would be exposed. But now the greatest fear is that something everybody already knows will be called by name.
any credibility you had departed at "knucklehead"
Ken Long it’s the marines nickname, but yeah it lost credibility. I don’t think they realized the “knuckleheads” of the marines weren’t doing the tests, it was the intelligence department or one of the more intelligent divisions.
That Cenk guy, or however it is spelled, is a nucklehead
But did they use data scientists? LMAO
lmao dude its jarheads
@ Ken Long... right... the correct term is "jar head"
FACT: Women in the Marines do NOT take the same PT test as the men. it's been like that since the 1970's.
FACT: the USMC did try having women do the Pull Up test, upon that test 70% of the women in the USMC failed that test.
So make the combat course requirements the same across the board And the 30% who passed deserve the jobs they physically qualify for. Not complicated.
+Briana Pierce The 70% fail rate alone would be enough for feminists like Hillary Clinton to claim that the military has a glass ceiling and isn't doing enough to empower women as a whole. I'm not saying the idea doesn't have merit nor that it shouldn't be the way it actually happens, I'm just saying I can see that scenario play out.
+Briana Pierce
If less than 30% of women pass the male requirements, then it just isn't worth the extra complexity and cost to have them go through boot camp, trained, and then serve on the front lines. You need female specific boots, clothes, packs, helmets, possibly even guns built for smaller hands, medical facilities, living quarters, etc... And women still tend to get injured more often and serve for shorter terms. In other words, women are a bad investment in combat roles.
+Briana Pierce But why waste money on women in the military for infantry roles? Women would have to eat more and train longer hours just to stay in shape compared to her male counter part. Also aren't those in the mixed groups have females who have passed the tests and their still not as effective as an all male group? The standards have already been lowered for women. Why endanger peoples lives so women can play solider?
+Briana Pierce But it is more complicated as we've seen with this pull up standard. Female recruits failed it about 55% of the time, while about 1% of males did. But what happened when it came time to implement the standard? It was delayed because it would force out about 1/2 of the female Marines, which already have the smallest service rate for females (7%). And that's just one event (women do a flex arm hang), they have different standards on the run. Some politicians and leaders cannot bring themselves to say that most women are not what the military (particularly the combat arms branches) are looking for.
it took a year to study this shit, anyone with a basic understanding of biology could have told them that.
Some general is in his office right now going “hmm this is a good idea.” 🤦🏻♂️
What I find depressing is that we are so liberalized we are ready to give up our safety and lie in order to let women do something they are physically not capable of. I was in the military and have 2 daughters and am all for equal rights but come on. When I went to do my job I went alone. When a woman counterpart went to do the same job she had to have a male accompany her to do the heavy lifting wth. I hated it and it caused rifts in the unit. A male slave to do the same task. This conversation is ridiculous. I am a progressive in general and this is not a argument supporting that but this is just common sense.
+wowgoat Safety? Hahaha, wow. You are rather gullible, aren't you? Our military doesn't keep us safe, silly! It generates profit for disgustingly wealthy war profiteers. It literally makes us _less safe_.
I agree. I am talking about the ability of one soldier to keep his fellow soldier safe not the government.Fuck them. When you kick in a door you want to know the guy in front behind and next to you has your back that is all.
These kids go to war believing in the cause. Some go for student loans but either way after they see what it is about all they have is each other. Way to twist it to serve your purpose however or do you want dead soldiers because they are the purveyor of government deeds? If so then you are gullible I guess. We are all told the same lies. Some brave men and women actually do something about what they fear however. Too bad politicians lie for corporations. Its not something new is it?
Youre a smug idiot arent you?
+wowgoat How bad were the women for getting pregnant during or before leave? Seeing some other comments talking about it, they could leave early and shit. Having a vagina is so powerful, there has never been a day-and-age where women are more privilaged than right now in the west. And they're taking it too far to be honest
You telling me trained army beefy guys that are design to fight in wars are stronger than women?
Jeez, I didn't know that shit. No wonder why male foot-ball teams didn't allow women.
"Front lines"... where are those, exactly?
I did convoy security, served with a woman Marine where I really forgot about her gender. Back in North Carolina...I went back to my original unit and MOS. Half my shop was female, and maybe a couple could pass a PFT. It really comes down to the individual, and the unit thier with...it's harder for women but I seen it done.
Why is this surprising? Men literally EVOLVED to be the hunters and gatherers, that's why they've got a clear combat advantage.
Ninad Nimkar
Women did the gathering.
no, they did the breeding and cooking, clothmaking... get an education
Presbiter
In hunter-gatherer societies women gathered/gathers edible plants. Men hunted/hunt, since they are physically stronger than women. I did get an education, thank you for your concern.
no, they were busy tending to the offspring and preparing the food...gathering was to dangerous for women...those were the days when the top spot in the food chain was still contested. Something you would have learned if that education thing you claim to have would hold up to any standart. Btw, you dont even need an education to figure this out, its just needs two braincells and the ability to watch your suroundings, that behaviour is still encoded into our DNA to this day and lived all around us.
Presbiter
I did, growing up in a continent where some people are still-gatherers, I have observed women collecting wild plants for consumption. Strange that you should deride my education when you can't spell?
the ones crying the loudest for equal rights should be on the front lines for just 1 month . then we will make an informed decision
John Narayan Actually 1 day on the frontlines would be enough for them. My brother has served in Iraq, and trust me the wars we have going on right now are JOKES compared to what the world wars were or what the Vietnam War was.
These wars we are having right now in the middle East are easy mode. When a more brutal war breaks out, women will quit themselves.
+kien tran Yeah, cuz they were low on manpower......eh... get it.....manpower........
.....I'll walk myself out.
Marines, also known as a marine corps or naval infantry, are typically an infantry force that specializes in the support of naval and army operations at sea and on land, as well as the execution of their own operations.
In the majority of countries, the marine force is an integral part of the navy, but it can also be under the army, like the Troupes de marine (French Marines) and Givati Brigade (Israeli Marines), or form an independent service branch, like the United States Marine Corps and the Royal Marines (although, the United States Marine Corps is under the United States Department of the Navy, and the Royal Marines come under Her Majesty's Naval Service).
Historically, tasks undertaken by marines have included: helping maintain discipline and order aboard the ship (reflecting the pressed nature of the ships' company and the risk of mutiny), the boarding of vessels during combat or capture of prize ships, and providing manpower for raiding ashore in support of the naval objectives.
With the industrialization of warfare in the 20th century, the scale of landing operations increased; this brought with it an increased likelihood of opposition, and a need for co-ordination of various military elements.
Marine forces evolved to specialize in the skills and capabilities required for amphibious warfare.
I was in the Navy when I would go to the flight deck to service a jet with a woman I am always carrying the heavy tool box.
I'd rather have a woman with me in combat, than anyone from the young turks.
So you would rather have any woman over a veteran?
Seems a bit sexist to me...
😂. Ikr
SIXITHS , when put that way I meant to be neither sexist nor anti veteran. I simply don't agree with much the young Turks have to say about anything in life, therefore would not want to be in a combat situation with them. Having said that am not military and have no experience in a combat situation, just don't care for the Turks way of looking at life in general.
So...Ana?
*No way bro, Jimmy "the spitter" would be great at slithering up to do sneak attacks on unsuspecting terrorists with a glass of feminists tears!*
make an all female unit see how well they preform
better yet, pit them against each other
Just what I was thinking. Maybe they'll work better together, just like men.
*cough*
TheInsomniaddict How did you make the font bold?
asterisks around the word, I believe *yup*
rofl nope, there'd be cat fights and hair styling going on at the front lines.
The way it is: I’ve met men in the Marine Corps. who were clearly unfit to hold infantry roles. On the flip side, I have NOT met a woman in the USMC who can perform better than these unfit male marines.
Do I believe women are unfit for combat? Not at all. Women have proven in history they are 100% capable. But the difference in physicality must be accepted as innate and not serve to bring down USMC physical standards.
If a woman can hack the men’s standards for the infantry, then hell yeah. Bring her in. She earned it. Otherwise, POG job.
i am very accepting that women can be soldiers too, but the fact that ( not all ) many women are dictate their actions on emotion and not their brain, can cause serious complications on the battle field.
Can Cenk please refrain from talking over a study before the actual marine on the panel has his say?
Thank you.
+The1Floyd He was in the Army.
yoda002 They explicitly stated that Wes Clarke was a marine.
+The1Floyd Not here to fight, just saying, the report was about the Marines, he was an Officer in the Army. Rangers are the training that Army soldiers go through to become Officers. Still, I agree that they should let him speak, because they are not allowing him to explain better than he can. For example, No one in the military would compare Officer training to bootcamp, and they made it seem like he did. Officer training is way harder than any bootcamp but they deserve to be labeled together. Marine Corps bootcamp is, by far, the longest and hardest of all military bootcamps.
+Anon “Artyst87” Number Hm, since I've been corrected twice I will just accept I got that wrong, I am also not interested in a fight.
That being said, I still think the white knighting before the actual person who served in the military was asked a question was a little nauseating. I am finding over the last few years the quality of this show has dropped
+The1Floyd So true, I unsubscribed awhile back, but things got interesting for a minute and I resubscribed. its a difficult choice.
In the infantry, virtually all of Israel’s female combat soldiers are confined to two light battalions - the Caracal and the Lions of Jordan - which are assigned to guard the borders with Egypt and Jordan, the only Arab countries that have peace treaties with Israel. A closer look shows Israeli women are not in direct combat special operations such as the Green Berets. Nor are they in front-line combat brigades mobilized to engage in direct heavy combat.
petargrad hezbellah are cowards. Nobody is scared of those bozos
I did not know that. Thank's Brika. (for the record I'm not a TYT fan, I just want to keep updated on libtard / anti-christian / Jihad-deniers / islamapologist thoughts).
Bro we lost
WWII: 417,000 KIA
WWI : 118,000 KIA
Vietnam: 57,000 KIA
Korea: 36,000 KIA
Civil war: ~650,00 KIA
When i was in the Nz territorial forces as a part time soldier, in the eighties, i sawthe RFI requirement for men and women was considerably different, still so. The mileage and set times to do so, the weight of their packs, around 30% less than males. This is the difference between life and death.If they can meet this standard, fine, but many of them, drop out even under those lesser set standards.
Careful who you criticize Cenk. Someday you might even meet a marine who knows more about combat than u. Shocking.
lethal and k5 what, the former marine that was on the panel that cenk deferred to and stated that as a former soldier knows more than he does.
Pretty sure you don’t have to be a marine to know more about combat or be stronger than Cenk.
Isn't it already obvious that men and women have different physical standards, otherwise you'd have one sex tennis, football, rugby etc etc.
Simple things like the olympics tell you that without a study needed.
i know we strive to be better in life and equality of male and female is an example of that. But I hope the majority do not disillusion themselves into actually thinking female can be equals in physical ability. Men will always be stronger and faster!!! Im all for equality but thats how it is.
Toza Hell they split chess up by gender
I'm a police officer in Greece and I'm always stressed out when I'm on duty with a woman not for their lack of abilities( sometimes they are more qualified than men)but simply for their lack of strength...It is impossible at least from my experience for them to cuff a suspect by themselves or ride a bike with me as a back passenger in case of I get injured
One of the problems I have heard about the modern infantry is the weight of their gear is getting to the point that even the men are suffering long term spine problems. The one equalizer in all this that is being developed is powered armor (yes science fiction is here). So far I have only seen a prototype exo-skeleton in testing. However, the future potential is amazing. Consider that you could put an 80 pound, weak, glassjaw in one of these, and automatically they become strong, have stamina, and can take anything smaller than a heavy machinegun round. These will truely be game changers.