Jacob Rees-Mogg SILENCES feminist in HEATED gender ideology debate | Diversity & delusion?
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- Опубліковано 16 кві 2024
- 'Feminism is not about equality anymore. It's about crushing the patriarchy. It's about women gaining the upper hand over men.'
Associate Comment Editor for the Telegraph, Mutaz Ahmed, challenges Tessa Dunlop's views on feminism.
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Tessa is an example of anything wrong with feminism.
Nasty, snide, arrogant, mysandrist.
Yup. The Irony that we now have Feminists calling other feminists misogynists whilst both are constantly nagging amd berating 'Men' as a monolith despite Men NEVER being the target of various help and aid schemes pretty much summarises 3rd and 4th wave feminism.
You forgot condescending..
And that others are entitled to have a different view
She should be detested not Tessa
Starts her piece by slagging off GB news, but takes the money, still. What a piece of work she is.
Might I add Condescending as well?
Tessa's completely Wrong, !...The Majority of women Do NOT want men in the same changing room as their daughters 🤷
Or their prisons, or their sports, or their hospital wards, or their rape crisis shelters, or their women’s refuges and safe houses, or performing intimate police searches, or caring for vulnerable women in their homes or hospitals
For balance , most men don't want women in their spaces either!
@@nigelbrooks5235for sure.
@@nigelbrooks5235 👀😂😂😂👍
@@kitchfacepalmI think there should be shelters for men when we're victims of grape or dv we have no support systems in place for us. Actually the quiet opposite.
"You're half my age".
And he's already twice as smart as you'll ever be, Tessa.
Try 100 times as smart, I mean that literally
Men are generally more logical... she is an emotional wreck.
Ageist😂
And in the end she got stressed..
Ironically, the very same condescension she would never ever tolerate from men is what she displays to men.
What a flaming hypocrite she is.
Tessa Dunlop's condescending attitude demonstrates that Fenimism is NOT about equality.
This woman and her supporters is womens biggest enemy.
And feminism.
This woman identifies as a feminist, but doesn't care about women's safety. The men seem to be more concerned about women's rights than she is.
💯 right Freedom is never free The vast majority of us Hetrosexual Gay Real Trans have to stand up against these modern Nazis worse UN Red Cross Huge Corporations So called Ivy League University's forcing this agenda on us Australia Canada New Zealand Scotland EU all the major news organisations woke sadly I feel Children especially the vulnerable will be more at risk from Creeps
And you actually believe that male chauvinists like them are concerned with women's rights? Especially Rees-Mogg who lives in the century that time forgot. Feminists like her know that trans/non binary people are an oppressed minority who are discriminated against. They see them as having much in common with women.
Feminism was always about "crushing the patriarchy." It was about women achieving independence from men and achieving equality of opportunity, equal rights, which were still a long way off. This was the 1960s railing against the conservatism and conformity of the 1950s. That guy is evidently too young to know any better.
Transgenders wanted legal recognition in the same way that homosexuals won the right to marry and be legally recognised as the gender they identify as. Thus, legally "women" or "men." But this hasn't gone down well with the old conservative traditionalists who see nothing but an existential threat: They are "erasing women. " This movement was completely reactionary, spawning the likes of Kellie Jay Keen and JK Rowling. Keen knew exactly who she intended to offend by posting "Adult Human Female" up on huge billboards in Liverpool. Did ordinary trans people need to be told by her that they will never be "real" women? From that a whole narrative has been spun to demonise trans people, and even an "ideology" I have yet to identify as anything other than an invention of the right wing, as represented by these two blokes.
Why does he still keep that woman on his programme. She is antimen.
That's why we're needed 😂
When did she say she didn't care about women's safety?
This woman is very arrogant, and she loves to speak down to these two men
A feminist
She speaks down to everybody.
Maybe that is because she as usual, is one woman in the middle of two men. She thus has to speak for two people, - herself and the absent other woman. However I don't agree with the gender nonsense. There are 2 genders, male, or female and another category of "I don't knows".
She likes to think she’s speaking down to them but its a lame attempt. Inside, those men are rolling around laughing.
"Economic justice for women" as if women do not have the advantage in almost all metrics economicly in the modern world.
She lost the argument and then started insulting both Men. Both Men were right and she was a disgrace, dithering all the time.
I’m a 56 year old white woman who grew up in the north east to a working class family. The men on this panel stand for my beliefs 100%. Tessa needs to go away and talk to her echo chamber in Islington, she’s absolutely awful.
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Im afraid her views are mainstream. That's why we don't go near females.
In my 50s as well from MA and cant believe weve reached this place. Actual women have capitulated to men in dresses. Ironically its the men defending women on this panel. Shes too obtuse to see it.
I like how the young black guy mentioned JK Rawling and feminists who are speaking up about dangers of the gender problem. Good timing!
do you understand what she was citing from the dictionary ?
Tessa is insufferable and can not conduct a conversation without logical fallacies.
Tessa again?No way!!!
Ava Santini is 1000 times worse.
Never trust a man who holds his hands down by his side.
"To not use Logical Fallacies is to yield to the Patriarchy!" So they are not ashamed of using them. -- And hey, you seem to win arguments that way.
She is unbearable, absolute narcissist!
100%
All women are!
@@benbirch2393 Ouch
I'm a real woman and I am not a feminist. I am also not a "sis" woman. I am just a bloody woman. I don't want to be in a category. I have all the rights of a man and I am happy with what I can do. Leave women alone.
"I am just a bloody woman."
Usually a woman is not covered with blood.
If she was covered in her own blood, she'd be a 'bleeding woman'😊
@@MrFreeman0179Well it depends what time of the month it is 😂😂
@@SpaceKitten88 For several days a month she's literally a bloody woman.🤣🤣🤣
@@SpaceKitten88😂😂😂😂
This woman is insufferable.
Sorry, every time I see this woman I turn off. I’m an independent, heterosexual adult female who has carved a successful career and life, without having to whinge about being a female. I applaud the differences of sexes and how they compliment each other both at work and at home.
But the whinging has made her an awful lot of money.
You might have worked hard but all shes done is whine how hrd it is being female and how a man never worked harder than her and shes probably way better off, despite never doing any real work
The worst ever. . Did.nt she marry a boy much much younger than her. Feminist. ????????@@michellecollins290
Exactly! I earned my City and Guilds trade certificate in car mechanics, in 1990! No one stopped me, or crushed my dreams. I just did it. I got paid the same too lol.
Women are still seriously under represented in higher positions. Most governments are dominated by men. In many cases, reality does not mirror TV., and women are overlooked and do the majority of low paid jobs. However, I do not agree with constantly denigrating men, and policies which cut men, especially white men out of the selection process. What as you say, is so important is to acknowledge that men and women are equal but different. Women are more verbal and generally more pre disposed to the caring professions. It makes total sense that women might come to dominate in law and medicine. On the other hand in makes total sense that male interests make them more suited to the many professions in the engineering field. Men seem much more interested in gaming and thus they are likely to dominate in computing and gaming design, etc etc. Men are more suited to the military combat roles, - hobbies such as hunting and fishing indicate this. (Although I do think conscription should apply to men and women). Let's play to each others strengths, but not exclude one another if we have non stereotypical gender interests and abilities.
She's the epitome of arrogance.
She’s insufferable 😱
Dunlop encapsulates perfectly the point where ignorance and arrogance meet and fuse, with each progressively exacerbating the other
@@barneyrubble8590 Not the brightest bulb in the chandelier...
@@mikeseguss5674 Haha. Very true.
The epitome of a total tw! t 😊
"You're half my age..." Very ageist of her. That's discriminatory.
Exactly she is because I am older you should not have a view point
Stating fact is not discriminatory
@@paulmcgreevy3011 She is using the age difference to deflect from the argument because she couldn't rebut his perfectly valid point. It's more of a strawman than discrimination, but the government certainly thinks that facts can be discriminatory. Try telling a black person or Muslim a few uncomfortable facts about their culture and you're likely to get arrested these days.
Patronising, argument from authority… miserable argument.
That's enough internet for today
I'm offended by this women. Can I report her for a hate crime?
Only in scotland apparently
Wrong. If you view this in Scotland, you can report it. I encourage you to do so.
@@sashamay81 how would that play out? Considering the interview was conducted outside Scotland?
@stephenparry6811 well, let's try and see.
@@sashamay81 well...
Oh dear her argument was not strong, she is used to living in an echo chamber and having all her sycophants praise her.
😂😂😂👍
All are equal but women are suited to different roles than men.
She immediately stoops to name calling. Argument lost.
Exactly! That's how she rolls.
Ever read 1984? Thought crimes have come to England. Enjoy.
“The party told you not to believe your own eyes and ears” I’ve probably destroyed that quote but we know what it means
George Orwell had great foresight. Who would have thought how correct he was.
for the one on the progressive side she says 'the likes of you' and 'people like you' quite a lot
She said "WHIP UP, the likes of you" to a black man????
Tessa Dunlop is a patronising ignoramus.
Tennis dunlop.
She just biunces everything back at you whooping illegibly.
Very well put
I love the word "ignoramus."
Excellent analysis!
And that's the polite version..😉
@@davidwyllie8539 perhaps she is of some use as a perfectly stereotypical example of her tyoe.
her retorts are so basic and instinctual and solely from emotion that shes obviously ungrounded in reality, accusatory, histrionic and reactionary, we can clearly see her as an example of someone quite obviously not operating from the same place of considered thiught and logic as one would hope the rest of us might achieve.
Explained away no doubt by claims that what we see is "passion" of which there is little doubt.
But this is a form of single minded mania.
Every word uttered to this woman will receive this same response if there is a hint her ideology is criticised.
A zealot.
A professional politician for a cause , lobbying you to be as neurotic about the opposite sex as she is.
And it works by default. You cannot help consider any topic as stressed or emergent or absolute if its expressed in such an unhealthy manner.
How did people who behave this way gain such loud voice?
Ar what point did we decide that quite clearly amd currently mentally disturbed people are to be involved on every single talking point and issue just because they have the necessary characteristics to screech about?
Even a conference of "people attacked by bulls amd traumatised by the experience"
Wouldnt be allowed to devolve into the histrionic call response buffoonery on display here.
"You are wrong and my repsonse to your indiscretion of rhought is to respond with histrionics designed to make your opinion look like a threat "
I like her, shes very honest for one of these types, she sees the direct opportunity here to prosecute her political enemies for non compliance.
The visciousness behind it, we must all join team feminist and only then we will be safe
Or else...
Peoples who qualification is only there self perceived identity should really not be seen as experts on the basis they have a characteristic.
This is so common, its gone from ..celebrity figure also has experience of extreme sexism growing up in very religious household so maybe has opinion on the issue to "i am.the celebrity whose celebrity is based solely on the fact ive met a few sexist men , my dad, my uncle and grandpa were all sexist and hated girls therefore my pain is now also yours, "i am now made expert by unresolved trauma."
They ARE their protected characteristic and only that and they seem to think its a job.
Thousands of them.
Professional autistic anxious apocalyptic teenager?
Meet greta.
Professional person of colour?
Meet a whole cast of protected characteristics.
Its a supposition we are all stupid above anything else.
Theres a network or media people all agreeing that debate on every topic is a devolving horrorshow of shaming and neurosese orchestrated by a single minded adult toddler.
Be it a tessa, or a femi, or a starmer, or a shola abambigbambu, high pitched yearning ,alarmist, histrionic, accusatory twerps amd they are everywhere.
There are people who are very capable of defending feminism these days, especially in light of the trans stuff but this honking, patriarchy obsesssed ,patriarchy enabled would be matron of all men of earth is most definitely not it.
If I were a teacher and wanted to show my students a perfect demonstration of pure, undiluted self-righteous condescension and patronising attitude it would be Tessa Dunlop here. Her unmistakable underlying tone is the oh-so-common sinister tone taken by so many of her ilk these days: ‘I am right, you are wrong. Agree with me or else.’
I couldn’t agree more… Tessa is one to say anything as she liked her husband when he was only 16 yrs old or 14 can’t remember… so she is in no position to say anything… had to turn this off bcs I can;t listen to her idiocies…
Why do women shout ?
@@MichaelWillby
Highly emotional .
@NatMart9394
Yeah, and that's exactly why they're no good for jobs or positions that require a large degree of emotional detachment such as company CEOs or world leaders. There are exceptions to the rule, of course - there's a bloody good reason Margaret Thatcher was nicknamed "the Iron Lady" - but the best example is housing or property moguls. A woman will make a house into a home. She'll imbue it with certain characteristics, essentially anthropomorphise it over a period of time and become emotional upon having to leave it. To a man, it's a pile of bricks and mortar. Simple as.
This lady would do well to remember that, when one finds oneself in a hole, one should stop digging, the fallacy of her "argument" having been brilliantly exposed by both the host and the other guest. Why is she such a regular guest on GB News anyway? Perhaps it is because such go bshi tery (please excuse the spaces) usually generates a fairly strong audience reaction (always good for the ratings) and, in her case, one that is most likely to be annoyance or laughter.
For goodness sake, listening to this I really think Western society is doomed...
Notice how she attacks Jacob's class and Murtasz's age - attacking the people, or her perception of them, rather than talking about the actual facts of the issue. And people wonder why politics has become so adversarial. It's because people like her cannot help themselves, perhaps because they don't have any real arguments.
She was more interested in criticising the men, rather than explaining her point.
Another grifter.
"Men like you have jumped on the bandwagon." Hmmm, that's funny because I remember women like her jumped on the 'rainbow' bandwagon just to dump all over men just to have the, 'trans' people take it over and now the same women like her want the men they dumped on to protect them from the very people they jumped on the 'rainbow' bandwagon and supported.
Because she really didn't have a point.
Manbashing was all that feminism was ever about. Systematicised nagging.
Her point was implicit, and incoherent.
Ugh........Tessa...........awful
I am a woman. I am NOT a feminist. I believe every individual is created by God, loved by Him, and thus equal. But women who are physically weaker than many men, deserve our protection, including protection in their own spaces.
So basically the judge called the guy a heretic and stated he was guilty of thought crime.
If these men had spoken to this woman the same way she done to them, all hell will break loose. What a hard work
She is shockingly arrogant and rude, not to mention daft
This is the reality of socialism we need all the help we can get when Labour gain power these people will be pushed as the norm
Tessa …. The real enemy from within! Absolutely insufferable 😫
For someone who's been around so long she sure is passive aggressive and condescending. One would think such a mature person like her would have more decorum and professionalism🤔
Tessa is wrong MOST women are concerned not a "few".
Isn't it hilarious how she stereotypes Jacob when she's just as much a 1%'er as him... The fucking nerve. As if she understands the struggle of the common women. She probably wouldn't know the first thing about the struggles of a low class woman coming of age in this time.. She simply knew she could get away with taking a pop at Jacob because his accent is a bit more posh than hers. Cheap.
Totally agree with this statement!
Absolutely.
Yes, this insanity needs to stop.
Yes but their opinion isn't baked into law. Only then will it be valid and permissable
Imagine if the young man had said she was “twice his age” and therefore out of touch! Just imagine.
All hell would have broken loose.
I would've answered her with 'Yes love I know I can see all your wrinkles '😅
Room 101 within the hour
She doesn't care if transgenders believe in whatever. But she cares that some shopowner doesn't subscribe to feminism.
She’s full of insults for everyone. What a great example
As a woman I totally agree with both gentlemen. Please GB stop paying this obnoxious woman for her ridiculous opinions .🏴
@lynnewilliams6662_ there’s about half a dozen of idiot leftie women on GBNews, the undoubted Queen of them is Imarn Ayton, a wonderful sneering arrogant ‘race baiter’ trouble is they keep giving them air time to spout their un hinged nonsense.
You just know don't you as soon as you see her she is going to say something to irritate you.Her and Amy Nickel Turner,I think that's her name.They both wind me up.
@maidonian68 Yup. Wealthy upper middle class woman, on National TV and international UA-cam being paid to tell us how oppressed she is despite the fact she's had equal rights for 47 years.
@@maidonian68how about Peter Tachell and Owen Jones. Disgraceful Stonewall trans fans GBNews keeps wheeling out.
@@realMaverickBuckley they pursue wealthy and powerful men, have children with them, then move on to become men haters.
She is throwing women under the bus. Awful woman!!
That woman in white is a total pain in the bum. What a switch off
She actually believes the nonsense she’s spewing.
Called her out perfectly
Wow she is very arrogant and damn right spiteful
She is delusional.
@@CPACK1downright maybe?
That woman is an unhinged hysterical argumentative narcissist .
This woman is put on our screens to create a sense of frustration and anger . Her demeanour, attitude, and mannerisms do exactly that
Tessa Dunlop was rude again tonight and is no role model for any woman. Thank goodness for the common sense and good manner of the young male jounalist who was on the panel with her. Calm and polite, everything the shrill Dunlop is not.
And she gets paid every time she appears and I’m yet to see one where she isn’t rude obnoxious and sometimes ignorant
Oh for goodness sake, don't create muddles wherever you go,when there aren't any .A man is a man ,and a woman is a woman . Anything else is Fantasy.!
Yet another ranting woman.
Dunlop opens with an ad hominem response: you know instantly that anything that follows will be pure bs.
Imagine how far feminism gets without men.
Dunlop has always been a supercilious fool.
Mouthy misandrist.
How is it that men are standing up for women's rights against other Women!! This world's gone nuts.
It appears the ageist feminist was getting frustrated.
She attacks individuals in order to avoid the answering the questions 😂
I’m no longer a feminist, thanks Tessa for setting us women back
Feminists have been setting women back from the start.
LOL SHE got hot under the collar when her views were shown to be illogical. What an intellectual lightweight.
Inviting people on with different options then being berated by it. Wow, this woman is vile!
Feminists rarely say anything worth listening to. This video was an excellent example of that.
I couldn't agree more.
You've never heard an actual feminist. Listen to Julie Bindel or Meghan Murphy.
@@bluebee5266they're not quite as insufferable, but I'd still rather eat rocks than listen to them.
@@bluebee5266 Bindel is a lunatic, great choice proving his point!
I am now nearly 80. I was a feminist in my youth, until I noticed the movement was turning against men!
The original Marxist subversion tool. Nothing disrupts the nuclear family like all the women hating the men .
"I was a (...) turning against men!"
How long did it take you to notice?
EQUALITY is the important word. Bravo JRM.
Everyone is equal.
Some more equal than others.
Tessa, who spouts about equality, if any of the 2 men spoke to her the way she is speaking to them she would be shouting about degradation of women! As a woman who believes in actual equality, I see these type of women/feminist as people who want their cake and eat it not actually helping the fight!!
Totally agree , she is a disgrace
Can’t stand this woman ! Turning off !
No opinion, no idea, no reputation and no tradition is beyond scrutiny or disagreeableness.
Everyone has the right to have any idea about anything without being discriminated against.
Freedom of thought and expression are the holy grail of true freedom
It wasn't "culture wars" that tarred feminism. It was the acts and words of feminists.
When their advocacy for equality led to men getting raises they got upset because men weren't meant to benefit. That says all there is to say and there are countless examples.
Whats the matter with this woman
She’s finding this hard to justify ..um ahh,silence 😂😂
Everything.
Shes desperate not to upset the morons on the left like her and because she gas no answer she then attacks Jacob.
Lack of brain cells plus Marxist indoctrination
Menopausal
Ms Dunlop insults and uses ad hominem most unprofessional. Anger is her motivation. She hates.
"You're half my age" - have you ever heard of ageism, Tessa? She may have marched the streets with Mary Astell and other archaic feminists, but this conversation is about feminism in 2024. A person half her age has most likely a much better grasp of what's happening on social media and the internet in general.
The Imperial War Museum are threatening to engage this woman. They've made many woke capitulations, which I've reluctantly let go for the greater good of what the museum is supposed to stand for. Hiring this woman would be a step too far I'm afraid. My donations would cease
So for 'feminism' we must rely on the dictionary definition; but for 'woman' we must rely on each individual's definition? They truly do have a way with words!
They can call on the dictionary definition of 'Feminism' but will get made if you don't think racism requires power and privilege while ignoring the dictionary definition.
I'm a woman a couple of years younger than Tessa & I couldn't disagree with her more. Tessa's arguments (on EVERY subject) are always easily torn apart by commonsense.
Jacob in Tessa - "momentarily silenced & now making up for it" 😂🙌👊
Yep she launched into an anti male rant because he put her in an awkward spot she had no answer to
She got blown out of the water. The young man attempted to help her save face, but she only went further down the rabbit hole. That was cringy!
Seeing as "sex is body" and "gender is brain", there's an endless number of genders because everybody's brains is different, something you have to learn.
The definition of feminism in a dictionary has very little to do with what is actually prepetrated by it's adherents.
Most sane men and women must think this woman is obnoxious and despicable
I have NEVER agreed with a word this woman has ever said
Twuntism . Doesn't discriminate any gender . Effects all without prejudices.
How can they talk about "womans rights" meanwhile claim there are no "woman"
brilliant point
Correction: feminists went around, burn their bras telling their female friends to split up with their husbands. It's a hate movement
OK incel.
@@bluebee5266 femcel detected
@@bluebee5266 femcel detected
There isn’t enough feminism in the world that will tear a happy woman from a good man she loves. If your wife doesn’t want you any more and files for divorce that is an exclusive indication on you, not feminism.
It is definitely a hate movement. They hate men.
Lol. She's trying to put him down, but says "gold hise" instead of house because she's so terribly upper class.
I'm a 56 yr old female and I've never described myself as a feminist and never would. However I'm very much invested in equality.
If Jacob wants to be concerned he has a right to do so and it is not this woman's business to question his motives
If a feminist cannot debate with the opponent without resorting to name calling they have lost the argument.
So does this Dunlop woman make sure that anyone under her, in her employment premises, make sure that they get the same pay as her? Or does she cut her wage to ensure she is paid equal with the lowest wage employees?
Go Jacob. Enjoy your discussions.
I asked my nan if she was a feminist as she ran her business. She said no as she said feminists are all middle class who look after middle class women who also look down at working class women.
Women look down on women more than men ever will.
Tessa made no sense. Then she turned to insults, when she couldn’t answer a simple question.
Over 1.4 million visas issued last year and talking about this.
She cannot respond to either of their specific points, she just starts talking about nothing and giving them the definition of feminism.
As a woman, I believe in equality not feminism.
Feminism is about equality. This woman has lost the plot.
I'm not sure people really understand what equality actually is. Or feminism. Words like that don't "evolve" over time....they get corrupted by those who are threatened by them and sold back to you in a vastly different form. Working as a lap dancer is sooo empowering. "I really must have that recipe..."
Just treat everyone how you'd want to be treated and that's all you really need to worry about, why complicate things?
@@KentVigilante , exactly ……… I’ve always been treated as an equal & I to them. All happy to continue our work together & also private life.
I agree.
This woman is so disrespectful toward the the members of this panel particularly the snarky comments to the young man.
She is as mad as a box a frogs.
Her arrogance prevents her from seeing how dangerous her views could be if they are left to fester for long enough.
I used to call myself a feminist, from the 70s, and no longer do. I don't recognise the new feMENists who include men claiming to be women in their feMENism.
I know , it is the ultimate (tragic ) irony .
I am disgusted by what’s going on out there. I’ve been looking up women’s marches, or some way to stand against this ideology nonsense, but women’s marches include trans women, and “taking a stand” is considered a hate crime. So we just have to sit down and be quiet like good girls. All over again. I want to rebel against this sh**!!!!
Luckily, I've never to sucked into cult thinking.
@@Madonnalitta1 lucky? Maybe it's just cowardice or it's just you're a man whose got no skin in the game.
Why aren't TV celebrity feminists like Tessa Dunlop 'Up in arms' about the fate of Blackpool teenager Charlene Downes...?
From a 67 year old female - feminism has gone way too far.
It went way too far over a decade ago.
@@pommiebears longer than that!
totally agree. there used to be a valid point. But by the 90s all things were equal.
Yeah, so far that it's now dominated by people who don't actually support the rights of women and girls.
At its core, feminism means being against whatever is bad for females. Thus, those who are willing to pretend that some men are woman and some boys are girls, are not feminists, because that pretense is bad for females.
I agree
The guy from the Telegraph must be wondering why he walked into the studio for a discussion with Tessa Dunlop who clearly has issues.
His face was priceless at the end when Tessa was insulting JRM. I’d like to know what he was thinking.
When I was a taxi driver, I asked a numerous of people "what is a feminist" no 2 people had the same definition, ranging from NAZI to an actually feminine woman.
Instead of debating this mentalist ideology. Why do you never call out who is pushing it onto us???
Ahh well we know why that is can’t criticise them
It's cos we stuck together as communities during the strikes they want us to fight each other and do the job for them while they wallow like fat sows.
That woman is a complete empty vessel, and conceited with it. Please stop having her on.
Imagine being married to this mess.
It’s quite amazing how words literally have lost all meaning and how discrimination in the negative manner had become everywhere and anywhere simply because it can.
It’s as if people feel something, take no time to discover what said thing is, and then make claims that people should affirm them and be justified in acting insanely