The BIGGEST Amp Shootout I've Ever Tried (UA FX Vs. Real Vintage Amps)
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0:00 Intro
1:36 Recording The Old School Way
7:18 Setting Up The Tweed
8:48 Tweed/Woodrow Shootout
12:37 Pushing The Tweed
17:49 AC-30/Ruby Shootout
22:06 Brian May Sound
25:02 Deluxe/Dream Shootout
26:07 Mateus Asato Shreds
This is excessively nerdy and I love it.
I love it , too. However, if "nerdy" means informed, intelligent and useful, then "nerdy" it is. By your assessment, every recording session and film production was/is "nerdy".
Maybe it's time to retire that stupidly pejorative, overly simple and simpleminded word.
R.J. has worked with Stevie Wonder and Carlos Santana. He is the best-known professional musician in this comment section. If he says it is nerdy, it is nerdy.
@@Glicksman1 and you, my man, are uninformed 😆
@@Glicksman1 I love being called a nerd.
Nerd to the extreme, RJ! They even pulled out the pick used by The Edge for the AC/Ruby comparison.... Now THAT'S detail...
Such an awesome hang!! Thanks for hosting Rhett!!
As a company you are killing it keep up the Awsome work can’t wait to try the new pedals in the uk !!!
Thanks for making all this happen!
too cool
Loved it!! Thanks UA!
more of this in the future! plz
This is such a great video Rhett. I could listen to James and Tim talk about amp/pedal history for hours.
And Mateus playing for hours more 😊
@@ZL1LoVeR yes indeed! He took ~17 seconds to find HIS sweet spot on the Epiphone, (what a great sounding guitar!). Thanks for sharing this post!
Mateus Asato has to be one of the most insane players I've ever seen play.
word, his style is amazing
He's so amazing I simultaneously think "wow! he makes what he's doing sound so approachable!" and think "wow! My skills could never, ever, ever approach that!" That's skill.
Yeah, he's alright. 😁 He's not just fast, but he has a sort of an expression that I've never heard anyone play before. Now there are several Instagram guitarists that play in a similar way, but they often bore me. I'm never bored listening to Asato and watching him play.
i'm sure he thinks he's great anyway..fast maybe and then?
@@bogarbill6331 Well I think he's pretty damn good and really, that's all I need to enjoy what he's playing. Everyone else is free to form whatever opinion tickles their fancy as that's got nothin' to do with me as far as I can tell.
When you have to spend so much time and so much concentration to figure out whether it is a pedal or an amp, the pedal is a success already. Absolutely fantastic.
Been playing for 25 years and have never heard anyone play that Gadd9 voicing. Mateus, you crafty bastard
Welp. This might be one of the best guitar videos on UA-cam. Straight up. What a joy to watch. Can’t lie, these pedals sound insanely good...
This is an absolutely fantastic video. So awesome hearing these amps in comparison to the pedals played by some great players.
honestly not sure if i could ever hear enough stuff like this. It’s so interesting and informative and just plain old good. The fun you’re all having and the reverence for how much the process has grown and changed over the years really comes through. Love it!
Great video. My lord, Tim Pierce's Les Paul is gorgeous. Such a beautiful flame and burst.
Every time the camera was on him I said the same thing. Couldn't t stop looking at it.
You are the best!!!! Finally somebody did a head to head comparison of this pedal vs the real thing. Thank You Rhett.
This here, this is what it's all about. The history, the toolset knowledge and the talent. Thank you everyone and all the support & sponsor companies. I had never enjoyed a guitar tech YT video as much as this one.
Legendary video. Amazing job. The look of pure joy on Rhett's face at 15:40 when Tim was fiddling with this strat volume knob while Rhett was playing!
What a great video, with so much knowledge and wisdom shared. Thanks Rhett 😁
Videos like this are why I love guitar so much and why I love your channel. It’s so awesome just hearing professionals talk guitar and jam and nerd out. Love the intro production values as well, keep it up!
Fantastic work here Rhett. Pretty envious of this whole experience! From the studio to the gear and even the hard work of compiling all this amazing footage
Matues Asato is just insane, effortless shredding and still a lot of soul it. Sounds amazing through both pedal and amp, crazy!
Just basic, cheesy blues riffs played fast with some jazz chords thrown in. Pretty boring stuff.
@@officialmetalwill L take
@@officialmetalwillYet there’s him making records and getting session calls in LA, while you’re on a UA-cam comment section hating.
Man this was AWESOME! Thanks Rhett, Tim, James and Mateus for this opportunity, you guys ROCK!!
This is a fabulous video. One of the best you've done!
My first amp was a 1967 Deluxe Reverb when I was in high school. Couldn't wait to ditch it for a dual cab stack. I never realized what I had.
Love this so much! I like what James said near the end .. as long as you’re just thinking about playing guitar rather than what you’re playing through. Amazing sounds all round!
Love that these specific amps are effectively being made available to the masses and preserved in perpetuity.
Also worth noting that IK Multimedia recently modeled the rooms at Sunset Sound for their TRacks plug in.
These are all insanely close and fantastic sounding, within degrees of separation that are obviously just parts tolerances/mic position etc... But the Dream is so close it's literally insane. It sounds PERFECT.
Rhett - you aced the Edge riff. Lovely work all round on what is a fascinating video. To be able to listen in on your conversations - brilliant. Thank you.
Great vid. I picked up a Dream last week and have been messing with it since then. What a great sound. Looking forward to trying it on a gig this weekend. The shootout really showed how they’ve nailed those amps and put them in the pedals. Best comparison vid I’ve seen yet. Thx!
Finally the comparison video I've been searching for. The Dream 65 has sounded great in other demos but now I can hear the A/B comparison. I'm sold.
Seeing Rhett smiling and in awe watching Mateus Asato play is pretty amazing! Asato is a true master! But the thing is, he plays like him, Rhett plays in his own style, and Tim has his own expression. Being a guitarist myself, but not a pro, I have to sometimes remind myself that I don't need to be that type of virtuoso, but instead play like I do. We don't have to emulate other players, but we can get inspired by them and incorporate some details of their playing.
Oh, those are great pedals too!
Yeah. I'm not on Asato's level, but I do ME better than anybody else, which was the plan. To paraphrase the great Les Paul, does your mom know it's you, when your song comes on the radio? Tools are important, but when you're identifiable on ANY guitar, you're ahead of the game. Les Paul himself didn't have that, without the technology he invented.
Geniuses are the ones who are most like themselves 😊
Arguably the best video on the channel so far, man. I love deep dives like this!
Great video Rhett! I was having a hard time deciding if the audio was from an amp or pedal. Thanks for putting on the screen! Loved hearing the discussion and three phenomenal guitar players.
Fantastic nerd out.
That Strat into the cranked Tweed was unreal.
Man how cool is James Santiago? There’s a walking encyclopedia of joy right there.
I agree
Incredible Video! Greatly appreciated and can't believe it took me a month to see it. I thought I'd watched every UA FX video out there and this is the best by far!
Everything about that video was just awesome. The pedals, the people, the sounds, the playing, and more. I had a smile on my face the entire time.
What comes out of these UAFX pedals is truly amazing. Sure the real amp/speaker - if it's a really good one - is still better. But for the fact that you can get such a sound without effort, which can be recorded directly or played into a sound system, that is quite amazing. I own the Golden Reverberator and consider it one of the best classic reverbs out there. Its Lexicon and spring reverb emulations are outstanding. The Dream '65/Ruby and the Woodrow are a killer combo by the way for all those players who can't use their amp(s) for a gig.
An inpressive all star team you've pulled together here. Really impressed by the UA pedals. Really looking forward to a JTM45 / JTM50 kinda model and/or a 100w plexi.
Fantastic video, Rhett! Thanks for putting this together and sharing it with us.
Wow 😮 absolutely blown away. Loved the deep level geekery and hearing some of the old session stories!
And THIS is how you show off an amp-in-the-box pedal! Thanks, Rhett!
UA did a great job with these amp in a box pedals. Here's another great option for players wanting to get a decent mid gain amp sound with less gear. Personally, I believe in using what works...whatever inspires you to play at your potential. If you are able to dial in a sound that pleases and inspires you, rock on! I've been tremendously surprised over the years by how far amp sim technology has advanced. I was able to get useful mid gain Fender and Vox amp sounds out of a Vox Tonelab SE, and I used that into the FX loop return (power amp in) on a Fender clean amp on the road for several years. The tech from 20 years ago seems like stone age technology now...but it was remarkable for the dynamics you could achieve at the time. Funnily enough, the stupidly cheap Joyo American Sound pedal was another massive amp-in-a-box winner about ten years ago-together with a reverb pedal I managed to fool a lot of people with that combo. Nowadays, I use a Tone Master Deluxe Reverb and a simple pedalboard for 90% of my gigs. My tube amps like my '65 BF Super Reverb stay at home for recording use, though I periodically dust em off and crank em up-which I'm sure annoys my neighbors, but always puts a huge grin on my face.
Rhett, this is such a treat!! Thanks for making this video. Such a great group and such rich content. Thanks man!!
what an awesome video . The best i've ever seen as it comes to amp vs amp pedals/ modelers sound
Watching you guys failing the Turing test was awesome. Proves not only that the UA pedals can recreate the real amps close to perfection but how those amps are so fucking versatile. Insane to see.
The same is true for the unison amp pres.
The only variant is extreme minuscia like component age from unit to unit or manufacturing variance. Their software products are excellent, and their pedal products are too.
And so cool to see Rick Beato show up in the corner for a bit!
Absolutely fabulous. Thanks for sharing this. Great fun!
Love this video. Thank you for the consistent, amazing content!
Tim Peirce is such a gentleman,and a MONSTER player. A true PROFESSIONAL in every sense of the word!
He is easily one of my top ten favorite players
This is your finest offering to date, Rhett. Just awesome. There is a helluva lot wrong with our world at the moment, but we would be remiss if we fail to acknowledge that we are living in a golden age of gear and tone awareness. Thank you!!!!!
I ENJOYED THIS SO VERY MUCH!!!! Tim is one of my favorite guitarist, and Rhett always teaches how to find that certain tone. Thanks man!
Awesome video! It's amazing how close pedals have come to sounding like real vintage amps.
That Brian May sound is just perfection. Rangemaster + AC30 will always be my favorite combo
Dang, y'all.
That was impressive! Not only the quality and stature of the players, but the pedals themselves.
Thank you 🙏
What an awesome video!!! Thanks to all involved
Your videos have been amazing over the last couple months. I really appreciate it.
Tim : "There was NOTHING AVAILABLE !!!!" Duh ..... Conclusio : With what they had available the guys made all these legendary sounds, touched our hearts and inspired countless players. Today we have a million choices, with every week there is more, the new pedal-of-the-day, the new plug-in-of-the-day, the next MUST HAVE gadget/amp/ what have you ... and with all this variety we STILL go back listening to the stuff from the 70's and 80's and go : wow, wish I could cop THAT sound with my gear..... makes you think. Or should at least.
Which is exactly why I just swapped out all my Walrus Mako stuff for UA. I started playing in the 70’s when all I had was a Fender and a guitar (first a Tele then a 335). For the last year I have been trying to recreate the feel from those days using today’s tech. The Walrus stuff came close but it was still way to complex. The UA stuff hits the mark dead on. I actually feel like I’m using a real amplifier. Nothing more and nothing less. I’m losing more money than I think I should on the Walrus stuff, but it’s OK. It’s worth it. I hope that made sense.
I think what happens is the sounds that you have heard and loved over the years were often the results of cranking up a Fender or Marshall from the time and finding the sound. Often, to get there you had to be real loud...to get Marshall growl or that dynamic Fender edge you really have to push those power tubes. A lot of the resulting gear of over time was to recreate those sounds with less volume to make things more manageable. Think about it....many bands don't even use amps on tour anymore because there are others ways that are efficient enough to tour with that get close enough to authentic. Personally I prefer a heavy old box with tubes.
It does seem that a majority of the huge selection of pedals, plugins, gear etc. that we have now are just trying to recreate or 'reimagine' those same sounds from the 60s and 70s.
The Mesa Boogie Mark I and II Combo´s were around , but they were perhaps not used much by producers in LA during the golden era. Carlton used a Mark I on his 1978 classic, debut album.
@@pere4487 I was in LA in 1977 and met a few players - they all talked about modded Blackface Deluxes, coupled with a Dan Armstrong "Orange Squeezer" compressor gadget. It was NOT a pedal but you plugged it right into your guitar ! That and a phasor and you were hip to go ....
Ring the bell, class is in session with Professor Pierce. That Dream '65 is on my short list for purchase, truly amazing how good it sounds.
Short list, cool! Glaf you have the dough. Hope you find a good one.
Being in the room with such legends must be an amazing experience. Great video! Thanks Rhett.
James (and talented friends) helped me get my feet through doors when I first moved to California from Texas in 2000. I was always in awe watching and jamming with him. He is an incredible guitar player. Thank you, James. (and Pine Street B&G for the opportunities)
Gerat-now I feel like I need an AC30!! What great tones. You and Tim Pierce=guitar gold.
yeah, same here..
It’s amazing how much flak the Edge gets, yet the pro’s appreciate everything he has done.
As a teen I couldn't stand the Edge, to me what he was doing was playing simple parts and adding delay to make his playing sound impressive. I thought of him as a cheat. As I got older I realised that his sound is pretty unique and that he has inspired many. Also, you have to be really precise to make stacked delays sound neat. I still think he's a bit of a one trick pony, but it's a damn good trick.
Isn’t the important thing simply that it sounds amazing and doesn’t matter one iota how he’s doing it?
What a treat! All of you are amazing. Thank you
Great video! Glad you did this video the way you did rather than just your standard A-B shootout for the viewer/listener. So much more enjoyable watching you guys hang, play, and react.
The pedals sound great... But there is still something about the moving air in front of a mic that is just pleasing and modelers haven't quite nailed it yet. I can't quite pinpoint what it is but It's a certain feeling of depth/space/headroom thing that sounds different than modelers. Anyway, great pedals and awesome video!
The dream 65 is too close. Oh my lord was that incredible. Wow!
I know we’re here for the UA pedals (which sound phenomenally close to the original amps through my earphones, well done all), but that Les Paul… just unbelievable. Every time it’s on screen being played or even just held I can’t concentrate on anything else. Absolutely gorgeous looks and unreal tone! Warms my heart that such an instrument is in the hands of someone like Tim Pierce.
black flames?!?!?! unreal
This is your best video so far. Loved it. So now I’ll order the Woodrow. Already ordered ruby and dream. You guys made the Woodrow sound like a tweed. Nobody else so far has shown that. Thanks for doing this.
Really enjoyed watching this. Nice blend of chatting, playing, tones, personalities. This video sold me on the Ruby…now on the wish list ✅
I love this about the internet. No egos, laidback cool friends. Musicians learning, experimenting, and teaching others at the same time. Glad you are making fantastic use of your time and having a very productive trip to L.A. Thanks to all. 👍🎸😎✌️
And this is why guitar rules. Look at how much guitar Tim has played over the years. Yet,.....he is truly excited to be in this studio doing an amp/pedal shootout. These nerdy little shootouts are just great. Those UA pedals sound incredible. Probably $400. But worth it I feel. Your getting that amp literally.
Even with a cab still cheaper than a real amp
@@pugforce8315 You still need a power amp too.
Mateus!!!! This was such a great watch. Great job.
The knowledge in that room is through the roof! Killer video!!
This genuinely has something for everyone! Modern and vintage to give a true insight on the effective of all kinds of amps. Cheers for these informative videos.
Tim’s LP is probably the most amazingly beautiful guitar of that style I’ve ever seen,
I think that's Rick's guitar, I've seen it in some of his videos. It's a 90s era historic for sure, super straight western maple w/ flame enhancer, that was the style back then. It's a polarizing look, purists tend to find it gaudy.
Wonderful video. Some sounds made me go ‘this is it’ - especially the VOX AC 30 breaking up with the volume rolled down. Love how Rick Beato makes a cameo at the end while M Asato casually makes every guitar player look bad.. Just wonderful. This is what music and guitar nerdry is about.
Very good job for this qualitative amp comparative I never seen before!!!
Ohhh the memories or hours spent adjusting mic positions… I think each engineer had their ‘go to’ position and probably became ‘their sound’ … Definitely a very ‘organic’ time for music…
Rhett, would love to hear your A/B comparison or thoughts on something like the Simplifier, which approaches the ampless approach and ‘modelling’ in a very different way - Simplifier being completely ANALOG, UA utilising DIGITAL modelling.
Great Video. I was on the fence about purchasing the Woodrow pedal, but after seeing the video I jumped on it. Can't wait until it arrives .
Amazing video, amazing tones, amazing guitar players and tone busters! 🙂
Thanx Rhett! Best regards from Niterói, RJ, Brazil!
I could hear the difference between all the amps and the pedals, except for the Dream Pedal vs Fender Deluxe reverb. This one was very tough, and I honestly can't believe how amazing this pedal sounds like!
you'd have to factor in youtube compression which will color those pedals...go play one live, turn it up
They're fine pedals, but I can tell the difference even on laptop speakers... so I'm a bit skeptical that guys sitting in the Sunset control room can't hear the difference, or that e.g. the Woodrow definitely needed more drive vs the Tweed in the first A/B.
I was watching my local Craigslist for an AC15 to show up, but when I learned about Ruby I ordered immediately. I absolutely love it and setting it up with the four cable method adds a new channel to any of my amps, tube or solid state. Thanks for reaffirming my purchase.👍 Informative video and fantastic channel, Rhett.
Comments not meant as a “sick burn” on Josh Scott. 😀
You might have waited a long time
Great video! Thanks for making this.
thanks for sharing, I've watched many of these UA pedal amp clips, I've come to the conclusion that they're excellent, but I have 1 major dilemma, from what I've heard so far I prefer that super killer OD lead tone on the Woodrow, it sounds to me so good, but the Dream has sharper cleans and more melodic rhythmic crunch tones, great leads as well as a reverb... only have a budget for one, and there are no guitar shops where I live to try, so gonna have to wait till someone posts a more in depth review of the Woodrow clearly demonstrating the cleans, cos at the moment Im more inclined to go with the Dream ... Excellent playing guys and you couldn't possibly do a more accurate demonstration, in a studio with the real amps
I think the film shows clearly that that the Woodrow, along with most Tweeds, clean up with the guitar volume rolled back - but only just, they are nearly always on the edge of breakup according to the dynamics of your playing. Whereas the Dream, and the Fender amps its emulating, is super clean until cranked and even then theres still that sixties era fender sheen.
@@risteardohaodha23 Thanks that's really useful, I'm a pro listener, listening to anything from the Allman's to SRV or Aretha to Smokey, but when it comes to playing i'm far from being a pro but really enjoy playing nevertheless. Clearly the Dream model is the one I need to get now, also it's interesting that the Tweed sounds almost like it has a fuzz, perhaps that's where the fuzz idea came from. Anyways thanks again for your clarification
Amazing content. Thanks Rhett.
Can't wait to try out Joyo American Sound pedal I just ordered.
Ive got one! Its fantastic - doesnt really hold a torch to this... ha ha. But I find them to be very inspiring if you use good cabinet sims like ownhammer, a good compressor pedal and a touch of a nice room reverb.
I always record demos with the AS and then rerecord with guitars when appropriate, but sometimes the AS sounds better in the mix. Especially for lead, Its become a tool I use for more upfront sounding guitars, if I want that.
I've bought pizzas more expensive than my American Sound, best bang for your buck in all of geardom.
@@calebwhitcraft1664 Totally. Even as a production tool and reamping sounds like snares and shit. Its just really good.
@@jackcrook4435 Gonna use it on my bugera v5.
@@VlrGuitarWorld I also play it into my Joyo sweet baby Tweed Champ to make it do the more blackface thing and its sick as.
Really appreciate your content and finally got a channel so we could subscribe. Tim Pierce is a gem... love his channel and his incredible talent as well. Keep up the hard work... we're looking forward to your studio completion, and the amazing music that's sure to created there. Cheers!
Great work everyone! Love nerding out with such great players, gear and rooms.
I just scored a real all original 1965 Deluxe Reverb, but now both it and myself are sweating because of how close that UA Dream pedal gets haha! Seriously cool video and great playing guys. Only think I might say is possibly a little unfair is when the amp and the pedal are switched while a player is mid lick. Just cause they're probably actively forming their thought and then it switches mid way through before they can reach a conclusion. Or maybe I'm just looking for ways to make myself feel better about my expensive amp purchase lol. Cheers fellas!
The real amp will continue to go up in value the pedal will be on sale when people realize how hard it is to use live
@@shckltnebay what?? What would be different live??
@@HerroYuy246 How you going to amplify the pedal?
@@shckltnebay there’s also the fact that the original is collectible and unique as all have slight differences. Analog will always be better then digital no matter what these hypebeasts post on UA-cam in order to gain commissions
The upper mid frequencies where much better on the real amp.
I think the Ruby and Dream are pretty damn close. There’s something about the tweeds that can’t be mimicked. I think it is the cabinet more than anything. If I run my 59 tremolux through a 2x12 it gets muddy and loses authority. Once I go back to the 1x12 in the tweed cab it gets louder and sounds like it should.
Black panel amps don’t do that. They sound great through extension cabs as well as the amp cab.
That’s my ears at least.
Accurate observation. I guess the simplest circuit of most of the tweeds makes them sensitive to every speaker and wood choice of the different cabs.
Exactly, the tweed sound is largely do to the cabinet design, almost a flaw of the design since the entire cabinet would rattle and resonate but thats part of the sound
Exactly, the tweed sound is largely do to the cabinet design, almost a flaw of the design since the entire cabinet would rattle and resonate but thats part of the sound
@@justinguitarcia it’s almost it’s own reverb. That’s why I love them.
It's because of the lack of negative feedback on the Tweed Deluxe, this is why the black panels don't do what you're noticing. They have negative feedback. The lack of negative feedback in a Tweed Deluxe (and the vox AC30) causes the speaker behavior (via the impedance curve of the speaker) to drastically impact the frequency response of the amp. This is also why the UA OX won't be a good load box for any amps that don't have negative feedback because the simulated reactive load is the wrong shape (doesn't match any speaker curves). I hope they do something about that in the future.
I cant believe it: all the cool dudes under one roof! Love you! Thanks sooo much!
The level of “knowledge of sound and tone” between these guys is mind numbing…it sounded good with my phone through headphones, I can’t imagine how great that sounded being there! Thanks for this killer vid👍
The Ruby has been the one one my wishlist because it's the only type of sound I love when pushed, but damn, the Dream sounds as awesome as a clean sound can be and it's impossible to hear a difference to the real amp (which was the case with the Woodrow). So in this video, the Dream blew me away even more, which was unexpected. But maybe it's unfair because Mateus Asato just plays too good.
This should be a Netflix Documentary
Thanks....I was having a hard time getting a good sound out of my Dream pedal, and your video helped by showing amp and pedal knob settings...and using the guitar volume knob to ultimately dial in the right amount of clean or overdrive...🎸👍😁
Be sure to check out the app for TONS of really great presets that can serve as starting points.
soooooo cool, Rhett. Thanks so much, from Utah! Wow, what insight into discovery...
Tim Pierce is such a smart player
I think one thing we have learned is that these pedals are so close to the real thing. It’s amazing how close the modeling world is getting to the original sounds of the tube amp!
Excellent video!!! Thanks Rhett
Fantastic video and the discussion at the beginning about her old days of recording was great.
Amazing how the pedal is pretty much the same as the amp. Tech has come a long way !!!!
That AC30 is the perfect tone
Nothing beats it.
These UAD pedals are truly amazing.
I know this as I've bought them and can't stop playing....
Sorry, multi-fx modellers (yes, Kemper, Fractal, Helix, Quad Cortex etc, I'm looking at you) the stakes just got higher.
This. Was. AWESOME! Watched every second and loved it. Thanks!! The sounds out of the real 65 Deluxe around 25:08 were absolutely glorious. I think I might need a 335 also. What a guitar. Mateus plays so beautifully too. Haven't seen him in one of your vids before. So silky smooth.
What an awesome video. A lot to learn from it. The Dream is definitely on my wishlist. I was impressed with it in every video I saw, and this one seals it. Who knows, maybe one day I'll even be able to afford the real thing, but having that Tone encapsulated in a portable package is truly mind blowing.
So Tim Pierce does intend have legs