Precisely, no matter how many times my autistic over symphatizing has been taken advantage of, I keep falling into the same sort trap of self-sacrifce for others who are just really good fakers and several of them malignant narcissists. By playing on my empathy, I feel blinded by thinking they suffer like me and consequently my life has been wrecked with permanent consequences for one and half decades now as an adult. It starts with sympathy to blind the autistic into doing stuff they would never do otherwise and then it gets easy to threaten them, to make them feel after they have already sacrificed their everything that they are somehow at fault and have ruined the other by failing to support them more and thus serious threatening is justified into getting them to totally ruin their life permanently. Once I figured out several of these having happened according to this pattern, it's still hard to recognize the same pattern when it has different nuances to it. Only thing to do in order to protect one's autistic self is to avoid losing your inner harmony even when you believe this person is good and deserves my help, as even if it's for the right cause, losing the harmony is never worth it as just losing it is enough to make you struggle for a long time to get it back. In other words, even for a good cause, don't give up your time to be alone and digest and calm down. Once you do, it's hard to get it back. But even after most hellish three and half decades, I got it back by just being alone for a while and analyzing the pattern and by coming to accept that due to crimes toward me I can't ever again fully regain my autistic special interests, even they are lost. Still live goes on and I am happy that I still get to life after so many close calls. Psychologist visits didn't help either. Physical exercise, healthy diet, refusal to take any medication and writing it all down in many foreign languages to see things from a distanced perpective did it for me. Finally came to peace with it and working to build as good a future as is left to build even though in debt for life due to a hardened criminal, getting handicapped and losing full ability to do my special interests in the way I used to. Be careful out there and don't let other's make you feel uncomfortable for long periods of time, you can't help anyone when you become the one in need of help after losing your harmony and never give up, harmony can always be regained even if it took me almost 15 years to regain
I try to think more about what someone is going through and see if it makes sense before I act on my empathy. It’s very frustrating because a lot of the time, some people think I’m being unsympathetic when I’m probably overthinking or trying to have the whole picture. That will not only decide my decision, but it may also give ideas on what to do. Though yes, sometimes I still get taken advantage of, because I naively think it’s not a huge issue, therefore not worth thinking to much about.
I have a tip, instead of thinking people are good, hope that they are good but expect them to be asholes trying to take advantage of you ( I'm autistic and I've seen asholeish behavior.)
19-year-old girl on the spectrum here. I can confirm that this is immensely true, at least for some. I think what people need to know about people on the spectrum is how to use their words properly around us because I personally take things extremely black-and-white (and I've been told it's a common symptom of being on the spectrum). Depending on what is said, our mental health can go down the drain and can become self-sacrificing even at the most extreme level. For instance, if a parent tells me to always be a giver and never be a taker, I will take that very literally to the point of extreme self-hatred. Same thing if someone else calls me selfish, my brain sees there are only two sides, selfish and selfless, in which reaching selfishness is trying to go uphill on a river. I cannot speak in my friend group freely because that is "attention-seeking" and "dramatic" (my brain thinks), and my friends have gone through so much worse. In my mind, to be a good friend means to be quiet and let them vent, and don't expect the same in return. I'm either a martyr or a narcissist. Again, though, these are all just from personal experiences, and if anyone on the spectrum is here, I'm curious if you feel similarly. My apologies for the vent, but I hope this gives a bit more context to the minds of people on the spectrum.
Bless you! You needed to write that much as an example of proper communication skills. I hate Internet culture. They attempts to communicate complex things in 150 characters atless. I am 40, blind, and probably some flavor of on the spectrum. I was in high school before someone explained to me that “hi how are you?” really means I am acknowledging your presence in a social environment rather than an honest question about what I’ve experienced today. I wanted so desperately to connect with other people and was always told that I was somehow the problem. I believe that until I did a couple of summers of study abroad programs in Germany. All that I apparently needed was the slight amount of grace for the expectation that I as a foreigner would probably be initially socially awkward. After having had the experience of being incredibly popular, being able to just walk up and have deep conversations in other languages with everyone from taxi drivers and janitors to executives and literal models, I understood that all of my difficulties we’re from either the Social inadequacies of so-called normal people or simply the desires of those who wanted to take advantage of me trying to get distance once they got whatever they wanted. Treasure your capacity to see things, black-and-white and verbally demand virtue and excellence from those whom you interact with because they owe it to you.
I think a non social autistic must have alone time for mental health. Like now I'm on my own with cats and it is really good. It is great to have a choice.
I do not let anyone hurt me anymore since I am not attached to anyone. I try to help people showing them who they truly are. But therefore you can't be friends with them otherwise you have to level their problems and that can end really really bad. I do not have any degree but I went to the hedgefunds industry into the impact market to help on a bigger scale to shift people's life's in earth. I do help everyone which wants help I meet because I do carry the gift to bring humans back to who they're. But I never really let it close to me since I'd be personally involved then and it would have an impact on my being. It's weird because I'm a senior client relationship manager and network alot, people do like me alot, many women try to get closer to me since I look handsome as well and I do have good manners and know exactly who I am. But I'm always alone, because everyone I've met just makes the way free for me, but don't know how to relate to someone who dresses fancy and stuff but doesn't care about it or about cars, houses, building a family just for having a family and children, I'm not interested in materialistic things, I just like to dress well and look good because I represent the good and that has to be visible. But I've never met a person which I was able to relate to, but everyone likes me. Everyone wants to be in my presence when I do appear even at a place where nobody knows me. I just don't care about rules, I give people comfort when I just ask smiling at a business dinner how to eat this fish while I realized everyone else was asking themselfes the same question but were too embarrassed to ask. Me I just smile, laugh and make jokes with people, but as well I'm always working, helping and understand who people are really. It makes people feel safe with me. But since they don't understand to feel sage by their own, I can't let them too close to me otherwise as I said they will use my inner knowing and security and faith for themselfes, not out of a bad intention, but just because they don't understand that they will never get that feeling of authenticity from anything or anyone outside of themselfes. That makes me alone. Even when I'm between many people. But it's okay, because I help people healing and offer chances to humans in developing countries to get access to financial markets due to microinvestment. Visited a farm in Niceragua, made me the most happy person knowing that I was partly responsible for their happiness in their eyes while they were so happy to be able to buy cows. Simply cows. And they treated them well, because they were thankful. They treated everyone well since they were full of flow and human drive. I guess that's the price one has to pay for being like this. Feeling alone in a world full of unaware humans, nothing against that, just as a fact.
I’ve always felt really deeply for other people, and animals, and I think it might be PARTIALLY because of my own struggles with bullying and harassment as a child, being undiagnosed for 30 years, and then physical disability in my twenties…but I also just think it’s who I am. I don’t like the answer that over empathy is just a trauma response, because I have ALWAYS been like this, even before all the trauma lol. When I was 5 I saw the movie babe the pig and never ate pork again lol. It’s just a different kind of autistic brain. The connections are wired differently
I have a really difficult time separating my feelings and others I don’t really know the difference and it’s really hard but it can also be a good thing. Most of the time it isn’t tho
Finally .. about time that some people actually tell the truth. All those who bullied us and then gaslighted us when we dtood up for ourselves are the heartless bastards. Especially when we didnt know we were autistic and we each had hundreds each. Screw these guys.
Your video is spot on for me. I have 'gone to bat' for other people, sometimes to my own detriment. My spouse took exception to a comment I made to my cat when he only had a few weeks to live: "I wish it was me, instead of you." I see a baby in a pram drop their ice cream. My first reaction is to want to buy another for them immediately.
When I found out that I actually have something weird and I'm not just weird, I didn't just go off the deep end somewhere, I was always going to be this and I am who I am for better or worse, it made me so comfortable and OK with myself. It made me reach my potential as a person inward and outward. I hope others have had this same effect, and if you had the opposite effect, consider doing an entire 180 degree turn on your whole view of the world and yourself, and be okay with yourself. When you are, others begin to see that and you will have a magnetic effect rather than a nervous and awkward effect on people. One thing I noticed is that people don't seem to forget me. I bet they can't forget you either
HOLY HECK! This explains a lot! I have autism and have this exact problem, but to me I over empathize to the point where it causes me to have massive panic attacks bc I get so worried about pple and how they feel when I see them in pain. I did not know this was a symptom of my condition, altho I knew that autistic pple's empathy works different than with neuro-typicals.
Same here, worrying about other people makes me feel uncomfortable because I don't know if I can help them or not so I just don't do anything because I'm frozen out of fear.
Did you just end the video with the message: “The amazing, beautiful, misunderstood, warm but hidden person you see in people, especially fellow underdogs - is just you!” 😉☺️ Very interesting! I like this hypothesis to some degree. Partly I think you’re right, and that’s worth to get into for autistic people, so we won’t do everything for amazing people that don’t exist, just because we see them like that. On the other hand I know that my empathy is real empathy and not just projection. Though we should never forget that we all as humans project a lot. It’s a human defense mechanism. Becoming aware of that and understanding what projection is and what it can lead to in the rather not so good cases is very important. So try to stay away from projection and always remind myself to stay introspective to look out that I don’t fall into the trap that is projection. From learning that a very long time ago, I think I’m rather skilled in awareness of falling into projection by asking myself: “Are you projecting now? Is there evidence that what you think of this situation is realistic, rather than confirmation bias, anxiety? What do you feel? What do your instinct and intuition say? And find out if it’s really instincts and intuition and not anxiety, depression, trauma responses etc. “ I feel like extremely strong and deeply, I love extremely strong and deeply and empathize extremely strong and deeply. I think the empathy is just as real empathy as all my love and emotions. For many different reasons I’m 100% certain of that. But yes, this is a very interesting point to look out for too and for some parts here and there, there might be a bit of that too. For some people more and others less I guess?
I have all autistic traits, execept having very low empathy and not being able to read people well. I read them and situations too well. :/ As result - all existing tests never really prove I'm autistic. Those tests are absurd. And other sources like this one say autistic people have higher empathy. This is so confusing.
I've gone down the rabbit whole of autism. Many signs of autism are signs I relate to. And I want to tell my physiologist but I'm scared they'll laugh at me.
The video discusses the concept of over-empathizing in autism, highlighting how many autistic individuals may experience heightened empathy due to adverse experiences like bullying, harassment, and chaos. This intense empathy can lead to strong moral convictions and a desire to help others, often resulting in standing up for those being mistreated. However, this deep empathy can also be challenging. Autistic individuals may relate intensely to others' pain, sometimes to the point of overwhelming themselves. This can lead to self-isolation to avoid the emotional burden of feeling too much for others. Additionally, the fear of being taken advantage of can drive autistic people to withdraw from social interactions. The video also touches on how over-empathizing can lead to mental health issues. The combination of social isolation and the struggle to connect with others can increase the risk of anxiety and depression. Autistic individuals might overextend themselves in their efforts to help, potentially harming their own well-being. The speaker suggests that this intense empathy can sometimes be more about projecting one’s own past pain onto others, rather than purely feeling for the other person. Overall, the video emphasizes the complexity of empathy in autism, noting both its positive and negative aspects and the significant impact it can have on an individual's social interactions and mental health. #ChatGPT4 Thank you! ❤
I just had this given to me as a reason that I don't have autism 🤩 jfc I'm going to cry. Two different professionals told me I didnt need to get tested because autistic people dont have such high empathy
So I have a theory about our empathy relating not to 1st&3rd person but 2nd person identifying using “you” instead of I. Myself included, identifying with 2nd person very early rather than 1st & 3rd. My kids did too. I think this is why many of us (just speaking from my experience) anthropomorphize so much. My rocks have names.😊
I'm not autistic, but I do feel an abnormal amount of empathy. It was really bad, I cried hearing Rudolph the red nosed reindeer until I was ten because I felt so bad for him. I just saw a video on youtube shorts about a true crime case and I am not having the best time :DDDD
The 1st 90% makes complete sense. I don't agree with your conclusion but maybe I am not following. And it worries me that many other autists below are not seeing this as a yet another way to characterize our empathy as something warped or selfish. If you possibly describe how you differentiate "true" empathy from understanding how much something hurts and therefore needing to help another through projection if it is projection. So you understand it as a way for us to live vicariously in solving someones elses problem as we cannot solve our own. Merely assauging our own disappointment and self pity. I may totally misunderstand and be wildly defensive in my response so I would really appreciate additional clarity. It seems others have been satisfied with your conclusion so it is very likely just my confusion.
This os exactly what i feel, i have a lot of autistic traits but as soon as i saw the "lack of empathy" it discarded everything, im still scared to ask a professional because they will think is self diagnosis if its not autism. Many times i blamed myself for everything ;-;
@@jadenbandit1204 It's a complete myth that autistic people lack empathy. It's literally just because autistic people have social impairments, so we don't know how to express empathy in the way that neurotypical people expect us to. All the psychological tests for empathy test for social behaviors, not what the person is actually feeling.
@@robokill387 I know now after lots of reasearch and listening to the community, cant believe its been a year.. Many "professionals" tho, dont believe this and theyre guided by old beliefs.. I literally had a friend that asked for an adhd assesment and he was almost denied for it because he had good grades.. As if good grades= no struggles ??? Anyway.. Must be the same with "empathy= no struggles".. :(
Over empathising in autistic people I'd like to know if this is mimicking behaviour copying neurotypicals, as to how they should be according to society, or that there's genuine cognitive empathy and understanding? Doesn't that go against the definition of aspergers and if it was true they wouldn't be diagnosed aspergers. Newbie here i am just wondering as i don't understand aspergers no matter how much i look into it and its the reason me and my ex split his strange beliefs caused by the condition
It actually is cognitive empathy it's just that the definition of aspergers was created by nurotypicals which are the people who are failing to understand autistic people so of course they get it wrong or at least inaccurate due to over generalizations ( would comparing nurotypical behavior to hunters and autism to gatherers be accurate enough) hunter gatherer tribes.
The definition is what's wrong, they assumed autistic people "lack empathy" because they don't tend to do behaviours that neurotypical people usually associate with empathy, such as hugging.
I just watched a video claiming that autistic people have difficulty recognizing emotions in ourselves and in others and thats why we get mistaken for narcissists. lol what do you think about that?
For an autistic person like me the only empathy I really feel are animals hunting them for food is one thing 😐but just killing and hunting and slaughtering them all for shits and giggles?🤔all for game? All for money? Abusing them for no reason just for our greddy deeds?🤔that’s a bridge to far 😑
We want to help others in their afflictions because we've been afflicted. 2 Corinthians 1:3-5 ESV [3] Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, [4] who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. [5] For as we share abundantly in Christ’s sufferings, so through Christ we share abundantly in comfort too.
When we break any rules apologize you monster you liter duty get the police a nerouptcical break the rules constant whatever soicety your heer something
Precisely, no matter how many times my autistic over symphatizing has been taken advantage of, I keep falling into the same sort trap of self-sacrifce for others who are just really good fakers and several of them malignant narcissists. By playing on my empathy, I feel blinded by thinking they suffer like me and consequently my life has been wrecked with permanent consequences for one and half decades now as an adult. It starts with sympathy to blind the autistic into doing stuff they would never do otherwise and then it gets easy to threaten them, to make them feel after they have already sacrificed their everything that they are somehow at fault and have ruined the other by failing to support them more and thus serious threatening is justified into getting them to totally ruin their life permanently. Once I figured out several of these having happened according to this pattern, it's still hard to recognize the same pattern when it has different nuances to it. Only thing to do in order to protect one's autistic self is to avoid losing your inner harmony even when you believe this person is good and deserves my help, as even if it's for the right cause, losing the harmony is never worth it as just losing it is enough to make you struggle for a long time to get it back. In other words, even for a good cause, don't give up your time to be alone and digest and calm down. Once you do, it's hard to get it back. But even after most hellish three and half decades, I got it back by just being alone for a while and analyzing the pattern and by coming to accept that due to crimes toward me I can't ever again fully regain my autistic special interests, even they are lost. Still live goes on and I am happy that I still get to life after so many close calls. Psychologist visits didn't help either. Physical exercise, healthy diet, refusal to take any medication and writing it all down in many foreign languages to see things from a distanced perpective did it for me. Finally came to peace with it and working to build as good a future as is left to build even though in debt for life due to a hardened criminal, getting handicapped and losing full ability to do my special interests in the way I used to. Be careful out there and don't let other's make you feel uncomfortable for long periods of time, you can't help anyone when you become the one in need of help after losing your harmony and never give up, harmony can always be regained even if it took me almost 15 years to regain
I try to think more about what someone is going through and see if it makes sense before I act on my empathy. It’s very frustrating because a lot of the time, some people think I’m being unsympathetic when I’m probably overthinking or trying to have the whole picture. That will not only decide my decision, but it may also give ideas on what to do. Though yes, sometimes I still get taken advantage of, because I naively think it’s not a huge issue, therefore not worth thinking to much about.
I have a tip, instead of thinking people are good, hope that they are good but expect them to be asholes trying to take advantage of you ( I'm autistic and I've seen asholeish behavior.)
Sorry to read this.. kind of the story of my life too!
@@rrose9161 One of the only useful things my ex husband ever said was along the same lines: drive like everyone else on the road is an idiot
Wow, you’ve said so much that’s been echoed in my life, thank you for explaining it in a way that I can’t.
19-year-old girl on the spectrum here. I can confirm that this is immensely true, at least for some. I think what people need to know about people on the spectrum is how to use their words properly around us because I personally take things extremely black-and-white (and I've been told it's a common symptom of being on the spectrum). Depending on what is said, our mental health can go down the drain and can become self-sacrificing even at the most extreme level. For instance, if a parent tells me to always be a giver and never be a taker, I will take that very literally to the point of extreme self-hatred. Same thing if someone else calls me selfish, my brain sees there are only two sides, selfish and selfless, in which reaching selfishness is trying to go uphill on a river. I cannot speak in my friend group freely because that is "attention-seeking" and "dramatic" (my brain thinks), and my friends have gone through so much worse. In my mind, to be a good friend means to be quiet and let them vent, and don't expect the same in return. I'm either a martyr or a narcissist.
Again, though, these are all just from personal experiences, and if anyone on the spectrum is here, I'm curious if you feel similarly. My apologies for the vent, but I hope this gives a bit more context to the minds of people on the spectrum.
Bless you! You needed to write that much as an example of proper communication skills. I hate Internet culture. They attempts to communicate complex things in 150 characters atless. I am 40, blind, and probably some flavor of on the spectrum. I was in high school before someone explained to me that “hi how are you?” really means I am acknowledging your presence in a social environment rather than an honest question about what I’ve experienced today. I wanted so desperately to connect with other people and was always told that I was somehow the problem. I believe that until I did a couple of summers of study abroad programs in Germany. All that I apparently needed was the slight amount of grace for the expectation that I as a foreigner would probably be initially socially awkward. After having had the experience of being incredibly popular, being able to just walk up and have deep conversations in other languages with everyone from taxi drivers and janitors to executives and literal models, I understood that all of my difficulties we’re from either the Social inadequacies of so-called normal people or simply the desires of those who wanted to take advantage of me trying to get distance once they got whatever they wanted. Treasure your capacity to see things, black-and-white and verbally demand virtue and excellence from those whom you interact with because they owe it to you.
Interesting idea, but not always a projection either. I have felt much pain for people going through things I have never been through.
I think a non social autistic must have alone time for mental health. Like now I'm on my own with cats and it is really good. It is great to have a choice.
Same here. Recharge time
Meeee toooo. ❤
I do not let anyone hurt me anymore since I am not attached to anyone.
I try to help people showing them who they truly are. But therefore you can't be friends with them otherwise you have to level their problems and that can end really really bad.
I do not have any degree but I went to the hedgefunds industry into the impact market to help on a bigger scale to shift people's life's in earth.
I do help everyone which wants help I meet because I do carry the gift to bring humans back to who they're. But I never really let it close to me since I'd be personally involved then and it would have an impact on my being.
It's weird because I'm a senior client relationship manager and network alot, people do like me alot, many women try to get closer to me since I look handsome as well and I do have good manners and know exactly who I am. But I'm always alone, because everyone I've met just makes the way free for me, but don't know how to relate to someone who dresses fancy and stuff but doesn't care about it or about cars, houses, building a family just for having a family and children, I'm not interested in materialistic things, I just like to dress well and look good because I represent the good and that has to be visible.
But I've never met a person which I was able to relate to, but everyone likes me. Everyone wants to be in my presence when I do appear even at a place where nobody knows me. I just don't care about rules, I give people comfort when I just ask smiling at a business dinner how to eat this fish while I realized everyone else was asking themselfes the same question but were too embarrassed to ask. Me I just smile, laugh and make jokes with people, but as well I'm always working, helping and understand who people are really.
It makes people feel safe with me. But since they don't understand to feel sage by their own, I can't let them too close to me otherwise as I said they will use my inner knowing and security and faith for themselfes, not out of a bad intention, but just because they don't understand that they will never get that feeling of authenticity from anything or anyone outside of themselfes.
That makes me alone. Even when I'm between many people.
But it's okay, because I help people healing and offer chances to humans in developing countries to get access to financial markets due to microinvestment. Visited a farm in Niceragua, made me the most happy person knowing that I was partly responsible for their happiness in their eyes while they were so happy to be able to buy cows. Simply cows. And they treated them well, because they were thankful. They treated everyone well since they were full of flow and human drive.
I guess that's the price one has to pay for being like this. Feeling alone in a world full of unaware humans, nothing against that, just as a fact.
I’ve always felt really deeply for other people, and animals, and I think it might be PARTIALLY because of my own struggles with bullying and harassment as a child, being undiagnosed for 30 years, and then physical disability in my twenties…but I also just think it’s who I am. I don’t like the answer that over empathy is just a trauma response, because I have ALWAYS been like this, even before all the trauma lol. When I was 5 I saw the movie babe the pig and never ate pork again lol. It’s just a different kind of autistic brain. The connections are wired differently
I have a really difficult time separating my feelings and others I don’t really know the difference and it’s really hard but it can also be a good thing. Most of the time it isn’t tho
This was...so helpful. I never stopped to really understand that my empathy can be a projection, quite literally.
Finally .. about time that some people actually tell the truth. All those who bullied us and then gaslighted us when we dtood up for ourselves are the heartless bastards. Especially when we didnt know we were autistic and we each had hundreds each. Screw these guys.
Your video is spot on for me. I have 'gone to bat' for other people, sometimes to my own detriment. My spouse took exception to a comment I made to my cat when he only had a few weeks to live: "I wish it was me, instead of you." I see a baby in a pram drop their ice cream. My first reaction is to want to buy another for them immediately.
When I found out that I actually have something weird and I'm not just weird, I didn't just go off the deep end somewhere, I was always going to be this and I am who I am for better or worse, it made me so comfortable and OK with myself. It made me reach my potential as a person inward and outward. I hope others have had this same effect, and if you had the opposite effect, consider doing an entire 180 degree turn on your whole view of the world and yourself, and be okay with yourself. When you are, others begin to see that and you will have a magnetic effect rather than a nervous and awkward effect on people. One thing I noticed is that people don't seem to forget me. I bet they can't forget you either
Resonating 100 percent with that
Getting a diagnosis was a huge weight of my shoulders and was the start of true acceptance.
HOLY HECK! This explains a lot! I have autism and have this exact problem, but to me I over empathize to the point where it causes me to have massive panic attacks bc I get so worried about pple and how they feel when I see them in pain. I did not know this was a symptom of my condition, altho I knew that autistic pple's empathy works different than with neuro-typicals.
Same here, worrying about other people makes me feel uncomfortable because I don't know if I can help them or not so I just don't do anything because I'm frozen out of fear.
Did you just end the video with the message: “The amazing, beautiful, misunderstood, warm but hidden person you see in people, especially fellow underdogs - is just you!” 😉☺️
Very interesting! I like this hypothesis to some degree.
Partly I think you’re right, and that’s worth to get into for autistic people, so we won’t do everything for amazing people that don’t exist, just because we see them like that.
On the other hand I know that my empathy is real empathy and not just projection.
Though we should never forget that we all as humans project a lot. It’s a human defense mechanism. Becoming aware of that and understanding what projection is and what it can lead to in the rather not so good cases is very important.
So try to stay away from projection and always remind myself to stay introspective to look out that I don’t fall into the trap that is projection.
From learning that a very long time ago, I think I’m rather skilled in awareness of falling into projection by asking myself:
“Are you projecting now? Is there evidence that what you think of this situation is realistic, rather than confirmation bias, anxiety? What do you feel? What do your instinct and intuition say? And find out if it’s really instincts and intuition and not anxiety, depression, trauma responses etc. “
I feel like extremely strong and deeply, I love extremely strong and deeply and empathize extremely strong and deeply.
I think the empathy is just as real empathy as all my love and emotions.
For many different reasons I’m 100% certain of that.
But yes, this is a very interesting point to look out for too and for some parts here and there, there might be a bit of that too. For some people more and others less I guess?
I have all autistic traits, execept having very low empathy and not being able to read people well.
I read them and situations too well. :/
As result - all existing tests never really prove I'm autistic.
Those tests are absurd.
And other sources like this one say autistic people have higher empathy. This is so confusing.
Best description of this I have seen thus far.
Thank you so much. This gave me so much peace. I’m crying.
Same here. Sometimes we find the right thing at the right time.
I've gone down the rabbit whole of autism. Many signs of autism are signs I relate to. And I want to tell my physiologist but I'm scared they'll laugh at me.
I can relate to this, thank you for making this video.
I’m glad you can relate to it and it helps :)
The video discusses the concept of over-empathizing in autism, highlighting how many autistic individuals may experience heightened empathy due to adverse experiences like bullying, harassment, and chaos. This intense empathy can lead to strong moral convictions and a desire to help others, often resulting in standing up for those being mistreated.
However, this deep empathy can also be challenging. Autistic individuals may relate intensely to others' pain, sometimes to the point of overwhelming themselves. This can lead to self-isolation to avoid the emotional burden of feeling too much for others. Additionally, the fear of being taken advantage of can drive autistic people to withdraw from social interactions.
The video also touches on how over-empathizing can lead to mental health issues. The combination of social isolation and the struggle to connect with others can increase the risk of anxiety and depression. Autistic individuals might overextend themselves in their efforts to help, potentially harming their own well-being. The speaker suggests that this intense empathy can sometimes be more about projecting one’s own past pain onto others, rather than purely feeling for the other person.
Overall, the video emphasizes the complexity of empathy in autism, noting both its positive and negative aspects and the significant impact it can have on an individual's social interactions and mental health.
#ChatGPT4
Thank you! ❤
I just had this given to me as a reason that I don't have autism 🤩 jfc I'm going to cry. Two different professionals told me I didnt need to get tested because autistic people dont have such high empathy
God, this is why I hate steorotypes, me and my friend both have autism and we both really want to help others
@@ExceptionalOneStandAlone yeah stereotypical total different species
This explains so much. Thank you.
So I have a theory about our empathy relating not to 1st&3rd person but 2nd person identifying using “you” instead of I. Myself included, identifying with 2nd person very early rather than 1st & 3rd. My kids did too. I think this is why many of us (just speaking from my experience) anthropomorphize so much. My rocks have names.😊
I'm not autistic, but I do feel an abnormal amount of empathy. It was really bad, I cried hearing Rudolph the red nosed reindeer until I was ten because I felt so bad for him. I just saw a video on youtube shorts about a true crime case and I am not having the best time :DDDD
I've never met an Autistic who has shown much empathy.
That doesn’t mean they don’t feel it
The 1st 90% makes complete sense. I don't agree with your conclusion but maybe I am not following. And it worries me that many other autists below are not seeing this as a yet another way to characterize our empathy as something warped or selfish. If you possibly describe how you differentiate "true" empathy from understanding how much something hurts and therefore needing to help another through projection if it is projection. So you understand it as a way for us to live vicariously in solving someones elses problem as we cannot solve our own. Merely assauging our own disappointment and self pity. I may totally misunderstand and be wildly defensive in my response so I would really appreciate additional clarity. It seems others have been satisfied with your conclusion so it is very likely just my confusion.
Some said they are Apathetic and some other said they are Empathetic
We’re all so diverse 😛
Ugh. This is devastating clarity.
These are great videos! Thank you for creating them!
I’m so glad you think so!
It’s really morale boosting to hear :)
Thank you so so much. I didnt get a diagnosis at first because i i had too much empathy??? Idk either
This os exactly what i feel, i have a lot of autistic traits but as soon as i saw the "lack of empathy" it discarded everything, im still scared to ask a professional because they will think is self diagnosis if its not autism. Many times i blamed myself for everything ;-;
@@jadenbandit1204 It's a complete myth that autistic people lack empathy. It's literally just because autistic people have social impairments, so we don't know how to express empathy in the way that neurotypical people expect us to. All the psychological tests for empathy test for social behaviors, not what the person is actually feeling.
@@robokill387 I know now after lots of reasearch and listening to the community, cant believe its been a year.. Many "professionals" tho, dont believe this and theyre guided by old beliefs..
I literally had a friend that asked for an adhd assesment and he was almost denied for it because he had good grades.. As if good grades= no struggles ??? Anyway.. Must be the same with "empathy= no struggles".. :(
I had down on the autism referral “has good eye contact”
Over empathising in autistic people I'd like to know if this is mimicking behaviour copying neurotypicals, as to how they should be according to society, or that there's genuine cognitive empathy and understanding? Doesn't that go against the definition of aspergers and if it was true they wouldn't be diagnosed aspergers. Newbie here i am just wondering as i don't understand aspergers no matter how much i look into it and its the reason me and my ex split his strange beliefs caused by the condition
It actually is cognitive empathy it's just that the definition of aspergers was created by nurotypicals which are the people who are failing to understand autistic people so of course they get it wrong or at least inaccurate due to over generalizations ( would comparing nurotypical behavior to hunters and autism to gatherers be accurate enough) hunter gatherer tribes.
The definition is what's wrong, they assumed autistic people "lack empathy" because they don't tend to do behaviours that neurotypical people usually associate with empathy, such as hugging.
Good. Thank you for the explanation.
Glad it was helpful!
My partner shows absolutely zero signs of empathy for me. But a lot for his dog.
I just watched a video claiming that autistic people have difficulty recognizing emotions in ourselves and in others and thats why we get mistaken for narcissists. lol what do you think about that?
I dont have. I'm autistic and egoistic. I have sympathies for max stirner.
I'm crying.
That's me I believe.
Thank You for a godt page. I just wanted to comment one thing: Empathy is not by def. sympathy , though I it often feels like iris.. ?🙂
For an autistic person like me the only empathy I really feel are animals hunting them for food is one thing 😐but just killing and hunting and slaughtering them all for shits and giggles?🤔all for game? All for money? Abusing them for no reason just for our greddy deeds?🤔that’s a bridge to far 😑
The Bible says we should do not kill what we can eat
We want to help others in their afflictions because we've been afflicted.
2 Corinthians 1:3-5 ESV
[3] Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,
[4] who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.
[5] For as we share abundantly in Christ’s sufferings, so through Christ we share abundantly in comfort too.
Yes
*Often we do*
Nice video!
Thank you! :)
it's a stupid question, because it can be both sides of the aisle.
I feel like I lack empathy a lot😢 I feel so out of place here
Why is your hand moving across the screen? So distracting. It is clearly all digital. Nothing is hand-written.
Yup
I have no empathy. 🙋♀️
When we break any rules apologize you monster you liter duty get the police a nerouptcical break the rules constant whatever soicety your heer something
This video is talking about sympathy. Not empathy.
Unmarked i'm pretty sure they're talking about compassion and emotional empathy, not cognitive