The Neil Knot from Shoulder Pin Guard System (No-Gi)

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  • Опубліковано 6 лис 2016
  • "The Shoulder Pin" is a trapping system used from the guard to tie up and control your opponent. The 3 essential finger grips causes extreme discomfort to your opponent and the framing pressure creates angles and opportunities to set up submission finishes.
    In this video learn how "The Shoulder Pin" is used to set up "The Neil Knot" submission. This choking submission threads under the chin of your opponent, when locked up leaves them open with no choice but to tap out.
    Test out this unique no-gi finish derived from the brilliant mind of The Ground Marshal, Neil Melanson!
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  • @davecronce3127
    @davecronce3127 4 роки тому +11

    You can hit this from bottom half when you are swimming for the under hook. Your opponent will pummel and then you can lock this in. Love it.

  • @mohamedbensalem9185
    @mohamedbensalem9185 6 років тому +36

    Neil Melanson techniques got me out of too many troubles during rolls, unexpected details and submissions.

  • @tenshunn
    @tenshunn 7 років тому +103

    I just want somebody who looks at me, like that dude looks at Neil.
    that's true love

    • @splashman2235
      @splashman2235 4 роки тому

      U simp lol

    • @wulfrache
      @wulfrache 2 роки тому

      @@splashman2235 The way he delicatly removed the hair from his wrist...
      "This is true love-you think this happens every day?" -Wesley

  • @dalion82
    @dalion82 10 місяців тому +2

    Learned this shoulder pin a few years ago and it made my guard dramatically more dangerous. Started with a sit up sweep and now i got yet another option... appreciate it...

  • @reyg7028
    @reyg7028 7 років тому +21

    Hey Neil . I just wanted to take a moment to say thank you . I cannot begin to tell you how valuable all the information that you have been relating has been to me . I have been very fortunate to find your videos on UA-cam and have been studying them and sharing the information with my students . It helps that you and I are built the same so everything that you do works perfectly into my game .

    • @whateveritwasitis
      @whateveritwasitis 2 роки тому

      ive left replies and questions on many videos, nobody monitors this stuff

  • @RTSurf5000
    @RTSurf5000 6 років тому +1

    Thank you for such clear instructions and finer details. You make this look effortless. I can't wait to practice this!!!!

  • @GiacintoMarcellino
    @GiacintoMarcellino 7 років тому +1

    Really good stuff!I'm going to try this. Thank you Neil!

  • @iMPACTt43w0r1d
    @iMPACTt43w0r1d 5 років тому +2

    Wish I could like this video more than once. Great instructional. Thank you so much!

  • @andrewkim6037
    @andrewkim6037 4 роки тому +2

    That half-guard entry is slick.

  • @Boriskbjj
    @Boriskbjj Рік тому +1

    This is so good! And nice to see it getting a bit of attention with the recent comp highlight

  • @pierreturtle9574
    @pierreturtle9574 6 років тому +3

    I love the details the Neil Knot is great thanks for sharing always the realistic way this is hi level knowledge for sure🤙🏼

  • @edwarddykstra1
    @edwarddykstra1 7 років тому +3

    Awesome positional pin/submission!

  • @DoM-dd6rb
    @DoM-dd6rb 6 років тому +1

    You Sir, are an awesome Instructor.
    Thanks for sharing this

  • @DIOGOCOHEA
    @DIOGOCOHEA Рік тому

    Love your work Neil.

  • @juntjoonunya9216
    @juntjoonunya9216 5 років тому +1

    Great tips! Will be trying this out..

  • @eskrima1
    @eskrima1 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent. Thank you for sharing.

  • @willisratcliff2285
    @willisratcliff2285 3 роки тому +3

    That's a sneaky and fantastic move.

  • @nathanvazquez99
    @nathanvazquez99 4 роки тому +1

    Quick tip that helped me, getting the ovehook then posting with the other hand on the collar bone or shoulder really helps with creating the space you need for your hips and legs. Especially if you get a reverse kimura grip like Neil does here

  • @Wagmacker191
    @Wagmacker191 4 місяці тому +1

    the best channel of all youtube. Hi from Brazil.

  • @askBOSCO
    @askBOSCO 2 роки тому +1

    ABSOLUTE KILLER MOVE. THANKS

  • @kdb560
    @kdb560 7 років тому +7

    Slick and very practical since breaking down a stronger opponent can be difficult. Can you elaborate on the half guard application please?

  • @Cornbreadddd
    @Cornbreadddd 4 роки тому +3

    What an unusual strategy, I've never seen anyone do this. I'm going to try this today.

  • @fitepitsnbonfires
    @fitepitsnbonfires Рік тому +1

    very interesting stuff neil keep it up !

  • @moefinesse9878
    @moefinesse9878 2 роки тому +1

    That's sick! Thanks for this

  • @sdzachar
    @sdzachar 6 років тому +1

    Absolutely great got to love this

  • @f_alves
    @f_alves 7 років тому +9

    Neil is f****ing awesome teacher!!! He make those techniques looks too easy....Danmmmmm!!!!!!!!

  • @efficiencyjiujitsu417bjj2
    @efficiencyjiujitsu417bjj2 5 років тому +1

    Awesome stuff!

  • @but457
    @but457 2 роки тому +1

    This guy is scary good.

  • @veritas30001ify
    @veritas30001ify 5 років тому +1

    Awesome video

  • @Leitefsj
    @Leitefsj 6 років тому +1

    This is great!

  • @andrewmcgivney7606
    @andrewmcgivney7606 Місяць тому

    this is fantastic

  • @needham_b
    @needham_b 7 років тому +1

    awesome technique

  • @slavicvolk
    @slavicvolk 3 роки тому +2

    2:41 start
    6:12 going other side
    7:28 from z guard w Robson hook

  • @GoldSmith-um2mc
    @GoldSmith-um2mc 2 місяці тому

    Thank You for translation!

  • @andresplattini2974
    @andresplattini2974 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent move

  • @josephmargaryan
    @josephmargaryan 3 роки тому +2

    6:22 I go TWO!!

  • @gregory57481
    @gregory57481 7 років тому +1

    very nice!

  • @abelcardenas2091
    @abelcardenas2091 7 років тому +1

    your a so knowledgeable, thank you. do you have a gym where is it located

  • @michaelcorcoran3942
    @michaelcorcoran3942 6 років тому +1

    It works soooooooo gooooood!!!

  • @peteramarillo8952
    @peteramarillo8952 5 років тому +1

    bad ass guard. Im gonna start practicing it

  • @bjjbrawler1
    @bjjbrawler1 7 років тому +9

    Great video!
    Looks like a Williams guard type thing. Same angles. With a rubber guard lockdown..
    Good stuff!!!

    • @IAintUrBuddyMan
      @IAintUrBuddyMan 3 роки тому

      A very nasty submisson from Williams guard for sure

  • @stallion5868
    @stallion5868 6 років тому +1

    Love it

  • @tamegomait
    @tamegomait 6 років тому +1

    This guy is awesome

  • @dr1052
    @dr1052 Рік тому +1

    Nice stuff here's a sub and like 😀👍

  • @briankleaver6296
    @briankleaver6296 5 років тому +10

    Does anyone know where Neil is coaching these days? Would love to see him coach in person.

  • @JohnDoe-gd1zj
    @JohnDoe-gd1zj 5 років тому +2

    Looks like you can transition to the omaplata there as well. Nice technique. Thank you

  • @vitamax3777
    @vitamax3777 Рік тому +1

    crazy stuff i give something a go

  • @thos1618
    @thos1618 7 років тому +31

    Any chance of putting Mastering the Triangle Choke back into print? Copies are listed for over $300 on Amazon.
    Maybe it's time to re-release it as an e-book.

    • @oldrichstibor2845
      @oldrichstibor2845 7 років тому

      yessssss! PLEASE!

    • @agharta42
      @agharta42 7 років тому +4

      lol thats funny i got a pristine copy just chillin right here its so fuckin dope i barely read it tho no ill never sell it to you hahaha such a sick book tho lmao

    • @oldrichstibor2845
      @oldrichstibor2845 7 років тому +16

      agharta42 you dont have to be a tool your whole life bro. theres time to grow still.

    • @agharta42
      @agharta42 7 років тому +3

      i.imgur.com/earXs48.jpg may be a tool but im a tool with a sweet book lmao

    • @oldrichstibor2845
      @oldrichstibor2845 7 років тому

      agharta42 lol exactly. it doesnt change the fact.

  • @kjuarez29
    @kjuarez29 5 років тому

    Me likey. Thanks Neil!

  • @MastersmokeABUSE
    @MastersmokeABUSE 7 років тому +7

    IN 10th Planet this position was called "London." However, the opponent can stack & pass if enough pressure is applied to the bottom person's thigh. You might as well transition to chilldog to stop the cartwheel escape to side control

    • @karimsayed6292
      @karimsayed6292 5 років тому +1

      I don't know what you talking about but This is pure catch wrestling

    • @karimsayed6292
      @karimsayed6292 5 років тому +2

      I was a second level shooter under billy robinson before he pass away and i 100% confirm that 90 % of bjj 10th pjj is pure Catch wrestling.

    • @karimsayed6292
      @karimsayed6292 5 років тому

      Simply we're the origin and the others are freaks

    • @MrVsteel
      @MrVsteel 4 роки тому

      I Lack the landmarks to which you refer, and yet still relate to what you are saying

  • @coffeedollsvp
    @coffeedollsvp 4 роки тому +1

    This guys is good.

  • @305tactical
    @305tactical 7 років тому +1

    great submission

    • @mongolchiuud8931
      @mongolchiuud8931 7 років тому +1

      Notice the black man picking lent of the white mans hand then staring at his crouch right after.....wtf

  • @BooLee01
    @BooLee01 5 років тому +1

    Can you please explain the squeeze? I got in that position in my class and had a good triangle shape around my partner's neck, but I could not squeeze tight enough to make a choke. I tried pushing and pulling in every direction, but I just could not make it work.

  • @hooktenpushups
    @hooktenpushups 3 роки тому +1

    wow

  • @Noname-ul4xp
    @Noname-ul4xp 3 роки тому +1

    I’ve been trying to work this but that bottom leg just gets pinned an they pass an then the shoulder pin doesn’t feel strong. Could you go over that in a video?

  • @rationalthinker9612
    @rationalthinker9612 3 роки тому +1

    I have a question, at the 3:40 part of the video where you are sitting on his legs and your right arm is basing and your left hand is grabbing his left wrist, what is stopping him from just yanking his left arm out of your grip? Is that typically a strong position for a grip or is the whole sequence of moves so fast that he doesn't have time to respond? Or is there a follow counter move if he break his wrist out of that grip? It seems like when he forces you back to the mat that you let go of that grip as part of the next move, what would you suggest if he doesn't force you back to the mat and breaks the grip without going to the mat..
    Sorry for the thousand questions, I was just curious just in case it happens to me....thanks for the awesome videos...OSS!!

  • @terickson26
    @terickson26 7 років тому +1

    This is awesome. If Ricky Lindell and you say it's a good grip it must be. Ricky is a beast.
    I use your K control guard all the time and it works really well. I've had a few people posture up really tall and push the foot that's on their hip down off their hip (the foot of the knee shield leg) if that makes sense. I was curious if you had a solution to that?

    • @thos1618
      @thos1618 7 років тому

      I've tried K Control a few times. I liked the idea of the position but couldn't make it work.
      Do you push with the shin and try to pull-out the leg, or more hang-back and work the head-control?

  • @NarcJ
    @NarcJ 7 років тому

    wow! added.

  • @petermelb123
    @petermelb123 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the video but I tried the technique and I didn't have the strength to put the shoulder crank hold on heavier rolling opponents they just stack me 🤔anybody else feeling me?

  • @kazuya2200
    @kazuya2200 3 роки тому +4

    William's guard ?

    • @az8039
      @az8039 22 дні тому

      Yes but no. Williams guard is the shoulder pin but the Neil know is the finish or choke in this video

  • @strictlybangers
    @strictlybangers 5 років тому +1

    surprising to not have seen this finish in the ufc?

  • @user-ed8eu2vm8p
    @user-ed8eu2vm8p 7 років тому +1

    👍

  • @guam58
    @guam58 4 роки тому +1

    I am getting good at getting the Neil knot, but can only finish with triangles. I just can't seem to finish the initial choke. My arm is not long enough to grab my forearm of the arm grabbing the leg. Are their details that can help me close up the initial choke? This position is awesome as a pitstop and great way to set up triangle easily. Thanks for the awesome teachings.

    • @MalikMosley
      @MalikMosley Рік тому

      3 years too late? 😂 increase flexibility and create a deeper angle if possible.

  • @danwhite192
    @danwhite192 3 роки тому +1

    🔥 I have found

  • @damirnikic2560
    @damirnikic2560 6 років тому +1

    Hi,
    Extra 💪👍👍👍

  • @Ricocase
    @Ricocase 3 роки тому

    whoa, 6:54, what kind of triangle was that?

  • @FatesHandler
    @FatesHandler 4 роки тому

    Oh I am so trying this next time we free train in class.

  • @jeegunugger1871
    @jeegunugger1871 2 роки тому +1

    5:25

  • @MightyYoungSir
    @MightyYoungSir 2 роки тому +1

    this dude on the right got other things in mind lol

  • @sunshine0satellite
    @sunshine0satellite Рік тому +1

    Williams Guard

  • @trampley
    @trampley 7 років тому +15

    I wonder how at all this is different than Shawn Williams guard.

    • @ovonisamja8024
      @ovonisamja8024 7 років тому

      It's the finish. Same guard can be found under "Lister Grip". Guard is the same but I think he's referring to the finish as a knot. That's why he's calling the guard shoulder pin guard and not Neil guard I think.

    • @thos1618
      @thos1618 7 років тому +7

      Shoulder Pin Guard, Leg-Hook Guard, 'Russian' Guard, London Guard, Lister Grip Guard, Shawn Williams Guard; all the same position.

    • @counterhit121
      @counterhit121 6 років тому

      Not sure who came up with it, but I learned Neil's version first so the Shawn Williams guard to me is just Neil's 0 degree shoulder pin.

  • @thiago57602
    @thiago57602 3 роки тому +1

    Oss

  • @hooktenpushups
    @hooktenpushups 3 роки тому +1

    I'm back, wow again

  • @thos1618
    @thos1618 7 років тому +1

    Is this video new, or was it like Sherdog Tech of the Week or something?

    • @brentluder795
      @brentluder795 7 років тому

      ollhashedfetish. it was his newest video just recently on his shoulder pin setups yes..

  • @Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA
    @Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA 6 років тому +1

    This is fucking gold :)

  • @janicelivingston9644
    @janicelivingston9644 6 років тому +1

    Geez, this lock is awesome , getting to it is controversial though ...because your opponent can move to and more than likely will , while you are setting it up, but once again wow! brilliant lock, whew ! Your partner looks at you a little too much lol even picks lint off ...

  • @YinYangAK47
    @YinYangAK47 7 років тому +29

    0:24 dafuq

    • @chaos_omega
      @chaos_omega 7 років тому +1

      lulz

    • @saroeungsrey6315
      @saroeungsrey6315 7 років тому +8

      looks like hes checking out his slave master....

    • @mongolchiuud8931
      @mongolchiuud8931 7 років тому +3

      I have only seen girls pick lent off a boy as a way of flirting....that was weird af...right after that he was literally staring at the dudes crouch...

    • @bobbyatkinson7930
      @bobbyatkinson7930 5 років тому +5

      i think his OCD was kicking up

    • @juntjoonunya9216
      @juntjoonunya9216 5 років тому +4

      It's just some love. Happens now and again in jiu-jitsu

  • @lordapophis5723
    @lordapophis5723 7 років тому +1

    This looks like it could been a great move to do in a street fight, problem is what the guy on top gonna be doing with his free hand?

    • @Presence_o_Mind
      @Presence_o_Mind 6 років тому +1

      When you crank down on his shoulder, he'll have no leverage to reach over and tag you. He'll just be using it for base to hold his face from eating the asphalt.

    • @juntjoonunya9216
      @juntjoonunya9216 5 років тому

      Picking your butt

  • @triedtrue2951
    @triedtrue2951 7 років тому +8

    That's called the Williams guard

  • @wulfrache
    @wulfrache 2 роки тому +1

    0:25 Bruh...

  • @LightlessDimension
    @LightlessDimension 6 років тому

    My coach showed me the omaplata while doing this

  • @armandberkut6021
    @armandberkut6021 4 роки тому +2

    Is called "Williams Guard " Dude ! Shoulder Pin Guard ? The shoulder is trapped but Not Pinned ,the word pinning is used when you pin the shoulder or Shoulders to the ground .PS : there is no GUARD in Catch wrestling .