AS A SURVIVOR OF SEXUAL ABUSE FROM MY FATHER AND BROTHER. I DIDN'T TELL MY MOTHER TILL YEARS AFTER THE FACT. I TRIED TO FORGET WITH DRUGS. DRUGS ONLY HELPED FOR SO LONG. WHEN I TOLD MY MOTHER, SHE DIDN'T BELIEVE ME. SHE TOLD ME THE DRUGS MADE ME THINK THAT WAY. FOR YEARS I QUESTIONED MYSELF, I THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY. ONE DAY MY YOUNGER BROTHER FINALLY TOLD ME THAT HE KNEW EVERYTHING I EVER SAID WAS TRUE. THEN HE SAID HE WAS STANDING BEHIND THE DOOR AND SEEN EVERYTHING. THEN I MADE HIM TELL MY MOTHER 2 TIMES AND SHE THREATENED TO CALL THE COPS ON US. SHE ALSO WROTE BOTH OF US OUT OF THE WILL. WE WERE BANNED FROM HOSPICE AND THE FUNERAL. MY MOTHER'S BEST FRIEND TOLD ME THAT MY MOTHER KNEW WHAT WAS HAPPENING. WE ALL SUFFERED MENTAL, EMOTIONAL, AND PHYSICAL ABUSE FROM BOTH PARENTS. NEEDLESS TO SAY, I NEVER ALLOWED ANYONE AROUND MY SON ALONE. I TOUGHT HIM TO TELL ME EVERYTHING. NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS, MOMMY IS STRONGER THAN THE PERSON WHO SAYS ITS A SECRET.
Someone needs to explain this to me. How come when a soldier gets snatched in warfare and tortured, only to escape and then murder their keeper, they’re considered a hero and rewarded by the country. BUT when a couple little boys grows up being tortured AND R8ped, and finally saves themselves it’s looked at as horrible choice making and they’re sent to jail? Explain to me the difference in those two examples. If anything the story of the little boys is more heart wrenching because they spent their whole life being tortured and r8pred whereas the soldier spent a few weeks, months or even a year going through similar things, but when both the soldier and the boys make the same decision to kill to survive, one’s rewarded while the boys go to prison.
The solution for the Menendez Brothers was to move out of the house and live on their own. After all, they were adults at the time. They also needed to go into therapy (In other words, go see a psychiatrist) for being traumatized by the sexual abuse. That would have been better than going to prison for all those years.
@@bmoshareholderappleshareho855Well..that’s your adult and mature mind talking…these 2 were traumatized, immature people..by the way the older brother was trying to do exactly that.he wanted to take his brother to Princeton and live with him, away from the father…but the younger brother practically refused to take that option…psychologists suggest that the younger brother was battered, had symptoms of learned helplessness…..
@@Heemyhimthe menendez brothers where sexually abused and r8ped by their parents throughout their life… I don’t see how it’s different just because gypsy got someone else to kill her mother doesn’t mean it isn’t with the same intent. They overall just wanted their parents to die
if the parents didnt do it then sure prison straight away... but if the parents did that's so unfair - they've had to live their whole lives trapped and in pain and with the knowledge they've saved themselves without saving themselves. Reformation is what prison is about and if they lied then sure reform them but if they we're assaulted like that then they need therapists not more suffering i hate that the system is so sad
@@joes.4149 You’re taking the opinion of people who’ve most likely done way worse than the brothers. All they’re doing is twisting the view of the them, and trying to make it seem as if they’re way worse than they actually are because they know that they themselves are never getting out; while the brothers may have that chance.
"There's no excuse for violence." That's what a social worker told me. "That's unfortunate." That's what a federal judge said to me. "The law expects people to be thick-skinned." That's what a lawyer said to me.
I was sexual abused at a young age. Never told anyone because i know they wouldn't do anything. I was scared. I was a child, made a victim. After so many years (25 exact) i told my grandmother (since she had custody of me) and she doesn't believe me. The abuser is her daughter. Now, my grandma barley speaks to me..
Hi, I think they know but they cant cope with it, so they deny, even if there are proofs. Its a uncounscious mechanism of self protection from the impact of the truth.. they cant handle it, so victims always lie Im sorry for what youve gone through (and for my bad english grammar) . Im sure you are brave and strong enough to deal with someone else"s coward and ignorant denial.stay blessed💚
These men have transmuted terrible suffering into lives of light. Eric is an earth angel and Lyle a Wounded Warrior. Chosen Ones. Millions are following their story. This was the purpose of it all- to raise awareness about sexual abuse of the male child within the family unit.
Unfortunatly, there are many inaccuracies in Monsters. José was the one that loved Milli Vanilli and that’s why it was played on the funeral. It wasn’t played for their mother and it wasn’t played during the ceremony, but only when people were seated.
Did they examine Erik's anal sphincter anatomy at the time of the trial for any changes from anal sex? I don't understand why this was not discussed to my knowledge. I would think it would be standard common sense!
@@bmoshareholderappleshareho855I’d say the 3 different trials and the exclusion of evidence. The state tried them over and over and over again (literally) until they could get a guilty verdict. The first two trials resulted in a hung jury, then the 3rd trial- the judge forbade the defense team from using the defense of sexual abuse. The reasoning was that this defense was what was causing the jurors in the two previous cases to be hung and ended in mistrial. So the country spent millions of dollars already, the judge made an executive order to forbade the defense from using thier sexual abuse defense in the 3rd trial- without their defense, they were found guilty when the first two cases they were not found guilty.
@@bmoshareholderappleshareho855it doesn't work like that for abused children ,abusive parents put a prison in your mind ,they follow you everywhere ,they stalk you ,they threaten to kill you/kill themselves if you move out (I know what I'm talking about ,my parents are like that).You can't escape with these type of people
@@jasmin-dl2er “There’s no excuse for violence.” That’s what a social worker told me.” “That’s unfortunate.” That’s what a federal judge said to me. “The law expects people to be thick-skinned .” That’s what a lawyer said to me. So based on those above comments, the brothers belonged in prison.
Let them out, and stop all of this, they did wrong,, did their time, now its time they got on with their lives. Its totally messed up. We all know they shouldnt have but they did. If only, they had sense that night and thrown away those guns, lyle and eric would be free now. Foolish. Think before u do.
The brothers planned the killing and how to not get catch They were ambushed not in the act if so then understandable If Erik had the rifle in his room when the dad walked in and said no more … then killed the father ok self defense … But that is not what happened
Yes bak in 70s an 80s Thea was a lot of sexual abuse an it use to be normal further bak with the priests that use to abuse young boys it was a normal thing till the law started ghanging
Lawyers can make up with any sort of story to help their case, even if they absolutely know their clients are guilty. The objective is not justice. It's a contest that can bring money and fame.
@@RogerioCampanholYou obviously haven’t looked into the case if you STILL think this. There were over 50 witnesses. In 2010 there was a LITERAL letter found that had been sent from Erik to his cousin, Andy, mentioning the abuse.
I agree. 100% And even if some of what they claimed was true…it doesn’t give them the right to do what they did. They were adults. They could have moved out and created their own life. Instead they schemed so they could keep up the money and lifestyle they were used to
The way I see is: A pair of psychopaths removed another pair of psychopaths from society. Then, the justice removed the former. Let's leave it like that.
Tbf if those guys were able to lie on the phone call made to the police and those other times they lied, then who knows what else they could lie about.
Who? Them, or their parents? Because in my opinion, there’s no way that the brothers are the monsters here. Jose and Kitty got what was coming to them.
@@joes.4149 No one in 'jail'? How would you know anything about what’s said in jail? They’ve been in there since 1990, i’m sure they’ve had plenty of reforming.
@@Jay-ii8bb there parents abused them and raped them they did it in self defense because they were afraid I’m not saying that what they did was the correct thing but it’s also not right molesting your child since they were SIX
@@ronaldmalneck9567 Yes, but the reason was because their WHOLE lives had been a matter of rape, and sexual abuse. Jose and Kitty are just as 'guilty' as the brothers may be. Penetrating your sons with a toothbrush, and shaving utensils IS NOT what a father does. Not to mention what they had to go through from age 6. Their parents got what they had coming to them.
The only sick people in this video are Jose and Kitty Menendez. How can you watch this whole video and have THAT same opinion? No, murder is never the answer… but they were just two boys that didn’t know what to do with the mental capacity of 8-10 year olds due to their terrible trauma.
@@Th3yCallM3Crazy The Netflix series representation of the brothers was totally wrong? They’d been emotionally and physically abused for YEARS. The molesting never even stopped for Erik; not since he’d been 6.
Yeah, their parents were really sick people and did a terrible job of raising their children. I’m glad they have turned into beautiful loving people now, despite of their trials and errors along the way.
AS A SURVIVOR OF SEXUAL ABUSE FROM MY FATHER AND BROTHER. I DIDN'T TELL MY MOTHER TILL YEARS AFTER THE FACT. I TRIED TO FORGET WITH DRUGS. DRUGS ONLY HELPED FOR SO LONG. WHEN I TOLD MY MOTHER, SHE DIDN'T BELIEVE ME. SHE TOLD ME THE DRUGS MADE ME THINK THAT WAY. FOR YEARS I QUESTIONED MYSELF, I THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY. ONE DAY MY YOUNGER BROTHER FINALLY TOLD ME THAT HE KNEW EVERYTHING I EVER SAID WAS TRUE. THEN HE SAID HE WAS STANDING BEHIND THE DOOR AND SEEN EVERYTHING. THEN I MADE HIM TELL MY MOTHER 2 TIMES AND SHE THREATENED TO CALL THE COPS ON US. SHE ALSO WROTE BOTH OF US OUT OF THE WILL. WE WERE BANNED FROM HOSPICE AND THE FUNERAL. MY MOTHER'S BEST FRIEND TOLD ME THAT MY MOTHER KNEW WHAT WAS HAPPENING. WE ALL SUFFERED MENTAL, EMOTIONAL, AND PHYSICAL ABUSE FROM BOTH PARENTS. NEEDLESS TO SAY, I NEVER ALLOWED ANYONE AROUND MY SON ALONE. I TOUGHT HIM TO TELL ME EVERYTHING. NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS, MOMMY IS STRONGER THAN THE PERSON WHO SAYS ITS A SECRET.
Holy smokes! 😢 I'm so sorry you went through that! ❤
So sorry 😮
Thank you for protecting your son 🙏 and I’m so sorry to hear what tort.you went through 💔💔💔
I'm so sorry love that happened to you! May God bless you with all the positivity in the world ❤
THAT'S AWFUL
Someone needs to explain this to me. How come when a soldier gets snatched in warfare and tortured, only to escape and then murder their keeper, they’re considered a hero and rewarded by the country. BUT when a couple little boys grows up being tortured AND R8ped, and finally saves themselves it’s looked at as horrible choice making and they’re sent to jail? Explain to me the difference in those two examples. If anything the story of the little boys is more heart wrenching because they spent their whole life being tortured and r8pred whereas the soldier spent a few weeks, months or even a year going through similar things, but when both the soldier and the boys make the same decision to kill to survive, one’s rewarded while the boys go to prison.
The solution for the Menendez Brothers was to move out of the house and live on their own. After all, they were adults at the time. They also needed to go into therapy (In other words, go see a psychiatrist) for being traumatized by the sexual abuse. That would have been better than going to prison for all those years.
Because murder is illegal.
@@bmoshareholderappleshareho855 very true
@@bmoshareholderappleshareho855Well..that’s your adult and mature mind talking…these 2 were traumatized, immature people..by the way the older brother was trying to do exactly that.he wanted to take his brother to Princeton and live with him, away from the father…but the younger brother practically refused to take that option…psychologists suggest that the younger brother was battered, had symptoms of learned helplessness…..
They're liars. They weren't ever molested. They did it for monetary gain.
It’s crazy that gypsy roses is free but the Menendez brother still aren’t…
She didn’t do any slaying she just set it up and she’s a woman so that gave her the cut points to and her mom lied about her illness
@@Heemyhimthe menendez brothers where sexually abused and r8ped by their parents throughout their life… I don’t see how it’s different just because gypsy got someone else to kill her mother doesn’t mean it isn’t with the same intent. They overall just wanted their parents to die
Ok but they slaughtered their parents. They admitted to reloading their guns to kill the mom
if the parents didnt do it then sure prison straight away... but if the parents did that's so unfair - they've had to live their whole lives trapped and in pain and with the knowledge they've saved themselves without saving themselves. Reformation is what prison is about and if they lied then sure reform them but if they we're assaulted like that then they need therapists not more suffering i hate that the system is so sad
There is countless proofs that they were abusives
Check what inmates think of the brothers 😂 they’re narcissists
@@joes.4149 You’re taking the opinion of people who’ve most likely done way worse than the brothers. All they’re doing is twisting the view of the them, and trying to make it seem as if they’re way worse than they actually are because they know that they themselves are never getting out; while the brothers may have that chance.
Actually, the brothers are protected in prison by other inmates, because they are very much loved and respected and no one doubts their motives.
"There's no excuse for violence." That's what a social worker told me. "That's unfortunate." That's what a federal judge said to me. "The law expects people to be thick-skinned." That's what a lawyer said to me.
FREE THEM ...THEY DESERVE PEACE !!!!!
😂😂
I was sexual abused at a young age. Never told anyone because i know they wouldn't do anything. I was scared. I was a child, made a victim. After so many years (25 exact) i told my grandmother (since she had custody of me) and she doesn't believe me. The abuser is her daughter. Now, my grandma barley speaks to me..
Hi, I think they know but they cant cope with it, so they deny, even if there are proofs. Its a uncounscious mechanism of self protection from the impact of the truth.. they cant handle it, so victims always lie
Im sorry for what youve gone through (and for my bad english grammar) . Im sure you are brave and strong enough to deal with someone else"s coward and ignorant denial.stay blessed💚
I wonder what the jury thinks now ?
They are all most likely dead , this was like 35 years ago
FREE THEM!
No
😂
These men have transmuted terrible suffering into lives of light. Eric is an earth angel and Lyle a Wounded Warrior. Chosen Ones. Millions are following their story. This was the purpose of it all- to raise awareness about sexual abuse of the male child within the family unit.
Monsters The Lyle And Erik Menendez Story And Menendez: A Killing in Beverly Hills 1994 Is So Very Incredible !
Unfortunatly, there are many inaccuracies in Monsters.
José was the one that loved Milli Vanilli and that’s why it was played on the funeral. It wasn’t played for their mother and it wasn’t played during the ceremony, but only when people were seated.
Guilty fr murder not guilty fr abuse they shouldn’t of got a life sentence
Did they examine Erik's anal sphincter anatomy at the time of the trial for any changes from anal sex? I don't understand why this was not discussed to my knowledge. I would think it would be standard common sense!
I always wondered this!
Me too
the father posed with the son who just did what he did to survive the mother posed with the child she hated. The proof is in that family photo
That's unfair trial
What's so unfair about it? They committed first-degree murder. They should have moved out of the house and get therapy.
@@bmoshareholderappleshareho855I’d say the 3 different trials and the exclusion of evidence. The state tried them over and over and over again (literally) until they could get a guilty verdict. The first two trials resulted in a hung jury, then the 3rd trial- the judge forbade the defense team from using the defense of sexual abuse. The reasoning was that this defense was what was causing the jurors in the two previous cases to be hung and ended in mistrial. So the country spent millions of dollars already, the judge made an executive order to forbade the defense from using thier sexual abuse defense in the 3rd trial- without their defense, they were found guilty when the first two cases they were not found guilty.
@@bmoshareholderappleshareho855it doesn't work like that for abused children ,abusive parents put a prison in your mind ,they follow you everywhere ,they stalk you ,they threaten to kill you/kill themselves if you move out (I know what I'm talking about ,my parents are like that).You can't escape with these type of people
@bmoshareholderappleshareho8THEY HAD THERAPY AND WERE ABUSED SEXUALLY IDK WHY YOUR TALKING
@@jasmin-dl2er “There’s no excuse for violence.” That’s what a social worker told me.” “That’s unfortunate.” That’s what a federal judge said to me. “The law expects people to be thick-skinned .” That’s what a lawyer said to me. So based on those above comments, the brothers belonged in prison.
I’m sorry but..either they are brilliant actors or they should be getting help for what they went though. Bad situation all around.
I don't agree with making a Netflix about them .
how the juorors saw the movie if it was made after the trials were ended?
And why as prosecutor would u being smiling over someone missfortune
They can’t put them to death no way they wer abused al there innocent lives
So the brothers had got abused as the law was slowly ghanging
Let them out, and stop all of this, they did wrong,, did their time, now its time they got on with their lives. Its totally messed up. We all know they shouldnt have but they did. If only, they had sense that night and thrown away those guns, lyle and eric would be free now. Foolish. Think before u do.
Felix Island
FREE THEM.
The brothers planned the killing and how to not get catch
They were ambushed not in the act if so then understandable
If Erik had the rifle in his room when the dad walked in and said no more … then killed the father ok self defense …
But that is not what happened
Psyco in a real live shower.
Snoop doggy dog 😂
Yes bak in 70s an 80s Thea was a lot of sexual abuse an it use to be normal further bak with the priests that use to abuse young boys it was a normal thing till the law started ghanging
1:20 lousy acting & a terrible liar.
1:41 seems high functioning
1:56 dead AF
There victims
Lawyers can make up with any sort of story to help their case, even if they absolutely know their clients are guilty. The objective is not justice. It's a contest that can bring money and fame.
You dont know what youre talking. There is countless proofs that they were abusives. Document yourself man.
@@RogerioCampanholYou obviously haven’t looked into the case if you STILL think this. There were over 50 witnesses. In 2010 there was a LITERAL letter found that had been sent from Erik to his cousin, Andy, mentioning the abuse.
I agree. 100%
And even if some of what they claimed was true…it doesn’t give them the right to do what they did.
They were adults. They could have moved out and created their own life.
Instead they schemed so they could keep up the money and lifestyle they were used to
The way I see is: A pair of psychopaths removed another pair of psychopaths from society. Then, the justice removed the former. Let's leave it like that.
What did snoop doggy dog do? I don’t believe it!
Tbf if those guys were able to lie on the phone call made to the police and those other times they lied, then who knows what else they could lie about.
They just wanted the money it’s so very obvious
Monsters
Who? Them, or their parents? Because in my opinion, there’s no way that the brothers are the monsters here. Jose and Kitty got what was coming to them.
@@heartsf4rmelllthe whole family are monsters. No one in jail speaks good about the brothers. “Narcissists” “entitled”
@@joes.4149 No one in 'jail'? How would you know anything about what’s said in jail? They’ve been in there since 1990, i’m sure they’ve had plenty of reforming.
Very guilty
Wdym very guilty
Exactly wtf i said ho @@Liastakis21
@Liastakis21, exactly what I said dont question me
@@Jay-ii8bb imo they need to be freed
@@Jay-ii8bb there parents abused them and raped them they did it in self defense because they were afraid I’m not saying that what they did was the correct thing but it’s also not right molesting your child since they were SIX
Guilty
Don’t comment on something you know nothing about. Yes, they’re guilty; guilty for defending themselves from their abusers.
@@heartsf4rmelll and you do?
@@ronaldmalneck9567 Yes? I’m not going to respond to your comment with no context.
@@heartsf4rmelll the content is, read the court transcripts, enjoy the docudrama. BUT, they were very guilty of premeditated murder.
@@ronaldmalneck9567 Yes, but the reason was because their WHOLE lives had been a matter of rape, and sexual abuse. Jose and Kitty are just as 'guilty' as the brothers may be. Penetrating your sons with a toothbrush, and shaving utensils IS NOT what a father does. Not to mention what they had to go through from age 6. Their parents got what they had coming to them.
Sick
The only sick people in this video are Jose and Kitty Menendez. How can you watch this whole video and have THAT same opinion? No, murder is never the answer… but they were just two boys that didn’t know what to do with the mental capacity of 8-10 year olds due to their terrible trauma.
@@heartsf4rmelll may blessings be upon you but it’s sick to pull up the actual 90’s footage Netflix did an amazing job
@@Th3yCallM3Crazy The Netflix series representation of the brothers was totally wrong? They’d been emotionally and physically abused for YEARS. The molesting never even stopped for Erik; not since he’d been 6.
meh the boys were raped by their dad.
Yeah, their parents were really sick people and did a terrible job of raising their children. I’m glad they have turned into beautiful loving people now, despite of their trials and errors along the way.