The cost of thunderbolt certification is astronomical is what I was told by 2 audio interface companies. That is why most thunderbolt interfaces don’t ship with a cable. Hopefully since thunderbolt is now a part of the USB4 standard they will give us a cable with newer models shipping out around 2024.
I've been using my Quantum 2626 as part of an aggregate system, combined with various components connected to it and a Presonus AR22 and a MOTU Pre8 where I have sent the ADAT channels from that out to an RME Digiface, skipping the onboard DSP processing of the MOTU and monitoring those channels directly from the DIgiface unit. Now here is where I have run into issues. So as to be able to monitor all of the various interfaces, I have connected them to a separate Mackie ProFX 12 to send them to headphone monitoring. All of the devices are latency free except for the 2626 which has just a bit of noticeable latency. It is my understanding that since there is no DSP present on the device which can be accessed via Universal Control, Presonus has instead pushed that processing off to the DAW processing and what is being monitored is not the device inputs but the DAW I/O and this is where I am getting the bit of latency.
The Quantum 2626 is a Thunderbolt 3 interface (round trip less than 1 ms) with 8 preamps, ADAT expandability for $700! Think about it. You can't touch any other Thunderbolt 3 interface with 8 preamps for less than $2000. Some might think, 'well, preamp quality or on board DSP. Yeah, those are nice to have, but nowadays there are mostly good preamps and better preamps, you're hard pressed to find a bad preamp. The preamps on the 2626 are good enough that with a decent microphone and a little processing you can get great sound. I own one since it first came out and you can't get anything nearly as good for the money. I am frankly surprised how this is not the most popular interface on the planet.
One reason might be all the QC issues people are having. I was going to get one, but read so many problems online combined with really poor product support
Very impressive that you can do that with such low latency that opens up a who new way of doing things brilliant stuff. I'm looking forward to the new tracks what coming along.
Just a warning. If on month 13 after you purchase a 2626 and you need any kind of fixing, they will not fix it, no matter what. Either get an extended warranty, If you want to pay for that or careful buying a 2626.
This is amazing and exactly what I wanted. I can see that logic is automatically compensating with -1031 samples. Could your old audio interface not do the same but just compensating more due to higher latency?
Great video. On the verge of getting the Presonus 2626 and an M1 Mini Mac to replace my old firewire interface set-up. Useful to know about the driver download, thought that sort of thing was just for Windows.
It's been almost a year. How's your Presonus Quantum 2626 and Mac Mini holding up? I'm upgrading from a terrible Presonus Audiobox iTwo and Lenovo Thinkpad and I'm considering purchasing both.
thunderbolt 3 cable are currently hard to find and expensive. you need a real T3 cable, no other cable will do. Also upgrading from a Focusrite Pro 40, because they don't support beyond macOS 10.15. This is very basic in function, good, but limits my extensibility compared to the Pro 40.
And another guy who has his Yamaha speakers laying flat instead of upright. Dude read the f. manual. It says that these can catch fire if you don't have them standing upright as they are meant to be!
Hi Kirby, Nice Video! The demo helps me about latency while mixing real instrument with VST. Was wondering how you connect the Midi route from DAW to Roland System-1/Blofeld. Did you use Quantum 2626's midi-out or another USB-Midi interface connected to your Anker TB hub/USB converter? Thank you.
I've been searching the whole internet for this, thanks a lot! I was wondering what is the RTL value in 128 sample in same setup? Any chance you could share it?
I have this with an M1 Mac too and I can not get the computer to recognize the interface for the life of me. Anybody have a similar problem and, even better, a solution? So far i can't even get in touch with tech support.
Hi Andy, i bought Presonus 2626, but my MacBook pro is from 2015, not supporting Thunderbolt 3, i have 2 Thunderbolt port only!! may i know any solution for this? We have any convertor or Adaptor,? I need your help, thank you!! May GOD bless you!!!
im not an apple fan whatsoever ,BUT i heard the m1 mac mini is the best choice if u really had to get one for whatever reason, runs faster than the air for a lot less money ,and we all have a display anyway lol
Yeah its true, what's good is they actually reduced their prices now they don't have to pay Intel taxes. The phones are more expensive than the computers! Crazy times!
nice video! i'm looking to buy the quantum4848. if you for example run a kickdrum on your TR8S & one in your DAW, the latency is so low you can't hear it? because I run a focusrite interface right now and I need to set my in DAW monitoring off to record to let it be in time. If you know what I mean..
Can you select the Quantum 2626 for audio playback from the Mac OS Menu? (As in, available under Volume > Output Devices? ) Or is it only available when running your DAW? I’m upgrading from an old MOTU device and that is certainly a feature I need.
Wow So great !! Thanks for this great video, was waiting for that for a long time! Really waiting your test with ableton live... What is the sample rate you used for this session? Wondering if you could even decrease the latency with higher sample rate... I am really interested in live processing guitar and vocals (octaver,...) along with vst with ultra low latency in ableton live, is there any chance you could try something similar to test how fast and stable it is... A vst stress test maybe with ableton...?
Sample rate was standard 24 bit 44.1khz. I didn't try higher but I guess latency would increase. I haven't tried ableton yet but will do soon. I think it will totally depend on the how well the plugin is written. The ones in Logic are optimised for M1 but that being said Ableton runs very well on the M1 and I'm not even sure if it's an optimised M1 version yet..
@@andykirby Hey Andy, Thank you for your answer. I think increasing the sample rate decrease latency but take more of the cpu usage. Usually I am seeing latency decreasing when increasing sample rate for a same buffer size. Thanks for your great video!
Great video thanks. One question. Mac M1 input is thunderbolt /USB 4. And quantum it thunderbolt 3. What hub / cable works. I tried a apple USB3 cable and no connection. Any advice? Cheers
You need a Thunderbolt 3 cable. It has the same physical connectors as a USB-C cable, but they are marked with the Thunderbolt symbol. I would honestly just buy one directly from Apple.
@@joeygwood thanks. I tried apple TB 3 and the Mac didn’t recognise it but I now have an OMC hub and went with OMC TB 4 cable and it all works great something to do with the read speeds. Or maybe a faulty cable. I definitely recommend OMC gear with the M1. Cheers
Darn it, I wish you would show Logic's performance meter just ONE time near the end of the video when you are actually monitoring 6 inputs at 32 buffer, so we can see how an ARM Mac copes with a few tracks at a real live 32 buffer setting. OTOH, don't think you are quite understanding latency in Logic. You have chosen a large process buffer in options, which means that all those initial playback tracks you were showing when you said "32 buffer", were actually playing back on a 2048 sample buffer size (~46ms). BTW, that's a really terrible setting to use and slows down Logic's reaction time considerably. Please consider using medium at the most, or even better, small (512 samples or 11.6ms). The only tracks that will actually go to the 2MS latency of the 32 buffer are, If you have highlighted a virtual instrument track e.g. to play it in real time with a midi KB or If you have *record* armed or input monitoring armed audio or aux track. In other words, for example, unless you actually have the SPIRE AU plugin track highlighted and selected, in your case, it would be playing back with a massive 2048 sample buffer and therefore dramatically lower CPU usage. Logic compensates all this on playback of course, so everything is always in time. Any good DAW does. This is how Logic works and it is not negotiable. If you really want to see the low latency performance of your ARM MAC with 32 buffer, try something like Ableton Live (has a full 30 day demo if you don't own it), which runs all tracks on the native chosen buffer at all times. So if you choose 32 in Ableton, every track IS on 32. I still meet people to this day, 20 years later, bewildered how Logic can perform so well. It's not rocket science. MAGIX developed the first native hybrid buffer Engine for Samplitude and then Logic PC decades back, and then most big name DAWs have followed suit. Pro Tools, Cubendo, and Studio One basically, as far as on the Mac side. Now, I don't have experience with ARM Macs, but Intel Macs were terrible with low buffer sizes and a lot of real time record armed tracks. I'd be curious to see how an ARM Mac fares with 32 tracks *actually* running at 32 buffer. Today on my 13980HX Windows laptop, I tested 32 record armed stereo tracks, with a broad mix of 5 stereo FX plugins on each and every track, for a total of 160 real time native plugins. I couldn't go lower than 64 buffer with this interface (my MOTU 828 USB 3 which goes down to 16 buffer is coming in a few days), but with 32 tracks all record armed simultaneously, all receiving audio, and each and every one with a multiband comp, EQ, reverb INSERT (yep, 32 large hall native reverbs), I didn't get a single dropout and was astounded at the DAW usage showing just 20 percent. When I disabled the record arming and they became "playback" tracks, it dropped to just a few percent, cause they were then playing back on 1024 buffer. There are people that are supposed experts that teach Pro Tools (they are literally called Pro Tools Expert lol), that don't even know that Pro Tools works the same way, playing back 128 tracks in one video and astounded how it was doing it at 64 buffer on an iMac Pro back in the day. Not one track was record armed, so in reality, all were playing back at 1024 buffer. Every single one. It wouldn't matter if the audio options has 16 buffer chosen or 1024. The performance would be the same, as it would be in your situation here. I am not in any way trying to be derogatory or insulting, and if you did understand this already, I apologise. I come from a background of obsessive DAW efficiency and CPU power testing and have spent thousands of hours over the years doing all these tests. Now yes, the hardware synths you were monitoring through the Quantum in Logic were indeed on the 32 buffer. To give us a better idea of the performance, do you remember how many tracks were actually receiving live input simultaneously? BTW there is no such think as zero latency. Even Pro Tools HDX is around 0.7ms and that is one of the fastest. 2ms roundtrip for a native interface, and not even at a high buffer, is OUTSTANDING, and Presonus have done an incredible job on that one. Unsurpassed really. I think it's still the fastest native interface on the market. 2ms is imperceptible to pretty much any member of humankind ;) Even RME are slow vs the Quantum lol (strictly speaking about latency here). And at low sample rates like 44 or 48K, the Quantum really is even more impressive, as most interfaces are about 5 to 6ms at those sample rates. The PreSonus is only 3.2ms at a 64 buffer at 44K. Unheard of. I chose the MOTU 828 because the DSP total monitoring latency through the onboard FX is only 0.7ms total, and the onboard FX are good enough for monitoring purposes for my use case, with is like yourself, with synths. I can add native plugins I want to add once I print the synths to audio tracks. But the MOTU, for a USB interface, can go down to about 3.2 round trip through the DAW natively, so still pretty good. But nothing is as fast as a Quantum. Then again, 26 inputs with DSP compression, 4 band EQ and gate on every single channel plus a reverb send, at 0.7 total latency, was what made me choose the 828. Cause even though I have a good CPU, I can monitor all those 28 ins at that ludicrous latency and have absolutely zero CPU impact. SO, why not Hehe. Another thing to close.. You don't have to move recorded tracks around due to latency. You could even record them at the very highest buffer size, and Logic will automatically compensate and place the audio correct on the timeline. It's been a couple years so maybe you know all this stuff by now anyway. The Quantum does report its latency accurately to Logic for it to compensate, for some interfaces that do not, one needs to do a manual measurement and make one set and forget adjustment into Logic's audio recording sample delay parameter, whether positive or negative depending on your measurements, and once done, that's IT, as long as you use that interface, Logic will always place the recorded audio sample accurate on the timeline. Latency only matters for monitoring. Not recording. Peace. PS, Oh, one final point to anyone reading. Please note that there are plenty of native plugins that add latency of their own. For monitoring, best results are always with zero additional latency plugins, then once at the mix playback stage, use any plugins you like and any modern DAW will have plug in delay compensation and keep everything in time.
Hey I have the 2626 as well. What are your thoughts on no hardware direct monitoring? I notice a very slight delay when tracking vocals since I have to monitor through the daw even with low latency settings (~1.5 ms round trip vs 0 latency monitoring)
@@andykirby I'm noticing at 192khz with 64 samples it is less than 1 ms it's pretty much perfect zero latency (though I'd have to freeze all other tracks to prevent cpu crackles). With 44khz and 64 buffer the rtl is over 3ms and I can notice it. But I may just still be refining my technique for vocals specifically, maybe those with more experience will be used to very slight delays of 1-3 ms when tracking. Also, I may just be extremely sensitive to latency.
thanks for showing Quantum's latency in the real world... haven't seen a reviewer who understands the unique design goals of this interface!
I grabbed the same combo! 2626 has been great for me so far and I think it was a bit of a sound quality upgrade over my Focusrite Pro 40.
The cost of thunderbolt certification is astronomical is what I was told by 2 audio interface companies. That is why most thunderbolt interfaces don’t ship with a cable. Hopefully since thunderbolt is now a part of the USB4 standard they will give us a cable with newer models shipping out around 2024.
I've been using my Quantum 2626 as part of an aggregate system, combined with various components connected to it and a Presonus AR22 and a MOTU Pre8 where I have sent the ADAT channels from that out to an RME Digiface, skipping the onboard DSP processing of the MOTU and monitoring those channels directly from the DIgiface unit. Now here is where I have run into issues. So as to be able to monitor all of the various interfaces, I have connected them to a separate Mackie ProFX 12 to send them to headphone monitoring. All of the devices are latency free except for the 2626 which has just a bit of noticeable latency. It is my understanding that since there is no DSP present on the device which can be accessed via Universal Control, Presonus has instead pushed that processing off to the DAW processing and what is being monitored is not the device inputs but the DAW I/O and this is where I am getting the bit of latency.
The Quantum 2626 is a Thunderbolt 3 interface (round trip less than 1 ms) with 8 preamps, ADAT expandability for $700! Think about it. You can't touch any other Thunderbolt 3 interface with 8 preamps for less than $2000. Some might think, 'well, preamp quality or on board DSP. Yeah, those are nice to have, but nowadays there are mostly good preamps and better preamps, you're hard pressed to find a bad preamp. The preamps on the 2626 are good enough that with a decent microphone and a little processing you can get great sound. I own one since it first came out and you can't get anything nearly as good for the money. I am frankly surprised how this is not the most popular interface on the planet.
One reason might be all the QC issues people are having. I was going to get one, but read so many problems online combined with really poor product support
Very impressive that you can do that with such low latency that opens up a who new way of doing things brilliant stuff. I'm looking forward to the new tracks what coming along.
It's interesting isn't it! Certainly opens up new possibilities, yeah looking forward to get the tracks out there👍🏻
@@andykirby It really is, I've played around with this sort of stuff but this is just brilliant.
Cool! I love finding new ways to get creative. I've got some more interesting stuff like this planned on the channel!
@@andykirby I shall look forward to it keep up the good work.
I am wondering how is the sound quality compared to a Rme.
Dear Mr K, please can you tell me the make and model of keyboard stand you use, shown in the video? 😊Thx
Thanks for this walkthrough, helped a lot in my decision to get one 👍
Just a warning. If on month 13 after you purchase a 2626 and you need any kind of fixing, they will not fix it, no matter what. Either get an extended warranty, If you want to pay for that or careful buying a 2626.
What fixing does your 2626 need?
This is amazing and exactly what I wanted. I can see that logic is automatically compensating with -1031 samples. Could your old audio interface not do the same but just compensating more due to higher latency?
Great video. On the verge of getting the Presonus 2626 and an M1 Mini Mac to replace my old firewire interface set-up. Useful to know about the driver download, thought that sort of thing was just for Windows.
It's been almost a year. How's your Presonus Quantum 2626 and Mac Mini holding up? I'm upgrading from a terrible Presonus Audiobox iTwo and Lenovo Thinkpad and I'm considering purchasing both.
thunderbolt 3 cable are currently hard to find and expensive. you need a real T3 cable, no other cable will do.
Also upgrading from a Focusrite Pro 40, because they don't support beyond macOS 10.15.
This is very basic in function, good, but limits my extensibility compared to the Pro 40.
And another guy who has his Yamaha speakers laying flat instead of upright. Dude read the f. manual. It says that these can catch fire if you don't have them standing upright as they are meant to be!
Hi Kirby, Nice Video! The demo helps me about latency while mixing real instrument with VST. Was wondering how you connect the Midi route from DAW to Roland System-1/Blofeld. Did you use Quantum 2626's midi-out or another USB-Midi interface connected to your Anker TB hub/USB converter? Thank you.
I've been searching the whole internet for this, thanks a lot! I was wondering what is the RTL value in 128 sample in same setup? Any chance you could share it?
looks like my upcoming setup, mostly recording a prophet rev 2 possibly using all 4 outs and getting a mac mini next month along with the 2626
well I have all 3 and I'm still figuring out how to use them properly. hoping I can use the rev2 as a midi controller itself for scoring purposes
Legend! Thank you for confirming the latency of the Presonus Quantum 2626
I have this with an M1 Mac too and I can not get the computer to recognize the interface for the life of me. Anybody have a similar problem and, even better, a solution? So far i can't even get in touch with tech support.
Hey man that looks great thank you very much for the vid!:) ...don't you find the inputs in front a bit annoying?
One question...thumderbolt conecction is the USBC in the Mac M1? Thanks
Yes exactly
Can i use orginal power supply mac Thunderbolt 3 with 2626 ? Or i have to buy Data Thunderbolt 3 Separately ?
Hi Andy, i bought Presonus 2626, but my MacBook pro is from 2015, not supporting Thunderbolt 3, i have 2 Thunderbolt port only!!
may i know any solution for this? We have any convertor or Adaptor,? I need your help, thank you!! May GOD bless you!!!
The apple thunderbolt 3 to 2 adapter is bidirectional, so it should work, and at a max of 26x26 channels even the bandwidth would be more than enough
im not an apple fan whatsoever ,BUT i heard the m1 mac mini is the best choice if u really had to get one for whatever reason, runs faster than the air for a lot less money ,and we all have a display anyway lol
Yeah its true, what's good is they actually reduced their prices now they don't have to pay Intel taxes. The phones are more expensive than the computers! Crazy times!
Funny I was just thinking about macbook pro or Mac Mini thank lol mini it is
nice video! i'm looking to buy the quantum4848. if you for example run a kickdrum on your TR8S & one in your DAW, the latency is so low you can't hear it? because I run a focusrite interface right now and I need to set my in DAW monitoring off to record to let it be in time. If you know what I mean..
Looking forward to the MacBook Pro M1 16” when it’s ‘hopefully’ released later this year!
Yeah that will be cool, I wonder if it will be an M1x chip.
@@andykirby Yeah maybe, or even the M2!
Noiiiceee!! I need more Hardware 😅
There's more coming 🤦🏻♂️ I'm an addict🤣
@@andykirby collab bro? 🤣🤣
Can you select the Quantum 2626 for audio playback from the Mac OS Menu? (As in, available under Volume > Output Devices? ) Or is it only available when running your DAW? I’m upgrading from an old MOTU device and that is certainly a feature I need.
curious about this as well, as I need to use it for everything regarding the computer itself, not just the daw
Yes, you can.
Wow So great !! Thanks for this great video, was waiting for that for a long time!
Really waiting your test with ableton live...
What is the sample rate you used for this session? Wondering if you could even decrease the latency with higher sample rate...
I am really interested in live processing guitar and vocals (octaver,...) along with vst with ultra low latency in ableton live, is there any chance you could try something similar to test how fast and stable it is...
A vst stress test maybe with ableton...?
Sample rate was standard 24 bit 44.1khz. I didn't try higher but I guess latency would increase.
I haven't tried ableton yet but will do soon. I think it will totally depend on the how well the plugin is written. The ones in Logic are optimised for M1 but that being said Ableton runs very well on the M1 and I'm not even sure if it's an optimised M1 version yet..
@@andykirby Hey Andy, Thank you for your answer. I think increasing the sample rate decrease latency but take more of the cpu usage. Usually I am seeing latency decreasing when increasing sample rate for a same buffer size.
Thanks for your great video!
Whats the latency you getting.?
Cool 👍
Great video thanks. One question. Mac M1 input is thunderbolt /USB 4. And quantum it thunderbolt 3. What hub / cable works. I tried a apple USB3 cable and no connection. Any advice? Cheers
You need a Thunderbolt 3 cable. It has the same physical connectors as a USB-C cable, but they are marked with the Thunderbolt symbol. I would honestly just buy one directly from Apple.
@@joeygwood thanks. I tried apple TB 3 and the Mac didn’t recognise it but I now have an OMC hub and went with OMC TB 4 cable and it all works great something to do with the read speeds. Or maybe a faulty cable. I definitely recommend OMC gear with the M1. Cheers
You plugged your synth to input 1 & 2 which is for mic/instrument. Inputs 3-8 are for line inputs. No issues plugging synth into input 1&2?
Didn't seem to be, the pre-amps are very quiet.
@@andykirby thank you. I’m looking into buying a 2626. I appreciate your help.
Darn it, I wish you would show Logic's performance meter just ONE time near the end of the video when you are actually monitoring 6 inputs at 32 buffer, so we can see how an ARM Mac copes with a few tracks at a real live 32 buffer setting.
OTOH, don't think you are quite understanding latency in Logic. You have chosen a large process buffer in options, which means that all those initial playback tracks you were showing when you said "32 buffer", were actually playing back on a 2048 sample buffer size (~46ms). BTW, that's a really terrible setting to use and slows down Logic's reaction time considerably. Please consider using medium at the most, or even better, small (512 samples or 11.6ms).
The only tracks that will actually go to the 2MS latency of the 32 buffer are,
If you have highlighted a virtual instrument track e.g. to play it in real time with a midi KB
or
If you have *record* armed or input monitoring armed audio or aux track.
In other words, for example, unless you actually have the SPIRE AU plugin track highlighted and selected, in your case, it would be playing back with a massive 2048 sample buffer and therefore dramatically lower CPU usage. Logic compensates all this on playback of course, so everything is always in time. Any good DAW does.
This is how Logic works and it is not negotiable. If you really want to see the low latency performance of your ARM MAC with 32 buffer, try something like Ableton Live (has a full 30 day demo if you don't own it), which runs all tracks on the native chosen buffer at all times. So if you choose 32 in Ableton, every track IS on 32.
I still meet people to this day, 20 years later, bewildered how Logic can perform so well. It's not rocket science. MAGIX developed the first native hybrid buffer Engine for Samplitude and then Logic PC decades back, and then most big name DAWs have followed suit. Pro Tools, Cubendo, and Studio One basically, as far as on the Mac side.
Now, I don't have experience with ARM Macs, but Intel Macs were terrible with low buffer sizes and a lot of real time record armed tracks.
I'd be curious to see how an ARM Mac fares with 32 tracks *actually* running at 32 buffer.
Today on my 13980HX Windows laptop, I tested 32 record armed stereo tracks, with a broad mix of 5 stereo FX plugins on each and every track, for a total of 160 real time native plugins. I couldn't go lower than 64 buffer with this interface (my MOTU 828 USB 3 which goes down to 16 buffer is coming in a few days), but with 32 tracks all record armed simultaneously, all receiving audio, and each and every one with a multiband comp, EQ, reverb INSERT (yep, 32 large hall native reverbs), I didn't get a single dropout and was astounded at the DAW usage showing just 20 percent. When I disabled the record arming and they became "playback" tracks, it dropped to just a few percent, cause they were then playing back on 1024 buffer.
There are people that are supposed experts that teach Pro Tools (they are literally called Pro Tools Expert lol), that don't even know that Pro Tools works the same way, playing back 128 tracks in one video and astounded how it was doing it at 64 buffer on an iMac Pro back in the day. Not one track was record armed, so in reality, all were playing back at 1024 buffer. Every single one. It wouldn't matter if the audio options has 16 buffer chosen or 1024. The performance would be the same, as it would be in your situation here.
I am not in any way trying to be derogatory or insulting, and if you did understand this already, I apologise. I come from a background of obsessive DAW efficiency and CPU power testing and have spent thousands of hours over the years doing all these tests.
Now yes, the hardware synths you were monitoring through the Quantum in Logic were indeed on the 32 buffer.
To give us a better idea of the performance, do you remember how many tracks were actually receiving live input simultaneously?
BTW there is no such think as zero latency. Even Pro Tools HDX is around 0.7ms and that is one of the fastest.
2ms roundtrip for a native interface, and not even at a high buffer, is OUTSTANDING, and Presonus have done an incredible job on that one. Unsurpassed really. I think it's still the fastest native interface on the market. 2ms is imperceptible to pretty much any member of humankind ;)
Even RME are slow vs the Quantum lol (strictly speaking about latency here).
And at low sample rates like 44 or 48K, the Quantum really is even more impressive, as most interfaces are about 5 to 6ms at those sample rates. The PreSonus is only 3.2ms at a 64 buffer at 44K. Unheard of. I chose the MOTU 828 because the DSP total monitoring latency through the onboard FX is only 0.7ms total, and the onboard FX are good enough for monitoring purposes for my use case, with is like yourself, with synths. I can add native plugins I want to add once I print the synths to audio tracks. But the MOTU, for a USB interface, can go down to about 3.2 round trip through the DAW natively, so still pretty good. But nothing is as fast as a Quantum.
Then again, 26 inputs with DSP compression, 4 band EQ and gate on every single channel plus a reverb send, at 0.7 total latency, was what made me choose the 828. Cause even though I have a good CPU, I can monitor all those 28 ins at that ludicrous latency and have absolutely zero CPU impact. SO, why not Hehe.
Another thing to close.. You don't have to move recorded tracks around due to latency. You could even record them at the very highest buffer size, and Logic will automatically compensate and place the audio correct on the timeline.
It's been a couple years so maybe you know all this stuff by now anyway. The Quantum does report its latency accurately to Logic for it to compensate, for some interfaces that do not, one needs to do a manual measurement and make one set and forget adjustment into Logic's audio recording sample delay parameter, whether positive or negative depending on your measurements, and once done, that's IT, as long as you use that interface, Logic will always place the recorded audio sample accurate on the timeline. Latency only matters for monitoring. Not recording.
Peace.
PS, Oh, one final point to anyone reading. Please note that there are plenty of native plugins that add latency of their own. For monitoring, best results are always with zero additional latency plugins, then once at the mix playback stage, use any plugins you like and any modern DAW will have plug in delay compensation and keep everything in time.
Hey I have the 2626 as well. What are your thoughts on no hardware direct monitoring? I notice a very slight delay when tracking vocals since I have to monitor through the daw even with low latency settings (~1.5 ms round trip vs 0 latency monitoring)
I haven't noticed any latency using instruments but I haven't tried it for Vox yet. interesting what you say..
@@andykirby I'm noticing at 192khz with 64 samples it is less than 1 ms it's pretty much perfect zero latency (though I'd have to freeze all other tracks to prevent cpu crackles). With 44khz and 64 buffer the rtl is over 3ms and I can notice it. But I may just still be refining my technique for vocals specifically, maybe those with more experience will be used to very slight delays of 1-3 ms when tracking. Also, I may just be extremely sensitive to latency.